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RAM 1500 Rebel vs RAM 2500 Power Wagon | The Meek vs The Mighty?
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
- Blessed are the meek, for they are more nimble, lighter and oddly a hair more capable at times than RAM's brash 3/4 ton off-road pickup truck. In this video I chat with Nick from RAM (aka RAM truck dude) and he tries to tell me why the Power Wagon is the better off-road pickup truck...
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This guy from ram is one of the best truck reps I’ve seen on RUclips
this guy just seems genuinely excited to talk about his trucks
It's crazy that the 1500 Rebel looks small compared to that Power Wagon!
Would love to see more folks like Nick on screen with Alex when possible. Knowledge and enthusiasm, he paired well with Alex.
Nice video.....just for information purposes.....I traded my 16 Rebel in for a new 18 Power Wagon. I liked the Rebel, but I was always wishing I had a taller, bigger truck. I've had my Wagon for 2 weeks now, and it is absolutely awesome.
Congrats!
We need Dodge Grand Caravan Hellcat. I'll buy one right away
The intro startled my cat.
Never mind your car. The intro startled me!
Forget the cat, it startled ME
I think you also have to look at application if you are on a farm and have 10-20 acres of property to transverse you may want that 2500, whereas the 1500 can be more urban friendly, while allowing you to make those trips up to the country.
I ordered a power wagon just waiting for it to come... seeing them side by side i know i made a good choice
ggqbc
Congrats 👍🏼 enjoy your new toy 💯 💪🏼
My choice would be the Tradesman version of the Power Wagon. Orange with black trim, and the big bed power-wagon decal.
This was a great switch up Alex. Loved the talking point, and kept brief and informative.
this video was incredible informative, half ton for me because it would only see heavy usage a couple times a year if even that.
I'm running the 5.7 ignition orange sport 1500 with the Rebel Trim Package, Icon Stage 4, Pro Comp A/Ts and I'm about to add a set of ADD bumpers with a 15550 lb. Winch. Now I will add new gearing and the Yukon limited slip.
And offroading with any speed involved you would smoke a power wagon. I had the icon stage 4 on a Tacoma build. Loved it. Impressive suspension for sure.
Wow. Ive been a truck/car talk youtube fan for a while. Ive seen one of your videos prior to this with the Voodoo Blue TRD pro tundra. And i loved it. The in depth talk and the comparison at the end is what I have been looking for, for so long in my 2 year search for the right truck.
Now at 1:15 when you (first time ive ever seen) called a manufacturer out on their numbers, I was in awe. This is the kind of information that people need to see. It almost makes the power wagon useless
I'd pick the rebel diesel. It can do 90% of what the power wagon can but you get better interior comfort, on road comfort, better payload and much much more fuel efficient. It is nice that ram finally paired a decent transmission to the 6.4 - it needed it badly!
Not the off-road Power though. Rebel just has a 1” lift.
90% may be optimistic.
It's about time someone did this comparison. Meanwhile, TFL Truck is kicking themselves; although we still love 'em.
Nick had more to say I would've liked to hear
How in the hell did you guys miss the front locker
James Mastroianni And front sway bar disconnect
name doesn't matter on the 1500 since the front suspension is independent
Even though the Power Wagon is not tested for mpg, I wish you would provide for the viewer what 3/4 and 1-ton trucks can be expected to deliver in mpg.
Joe Canis the answer is easy. Not alot.
@@alew3555 I know that. Still, I would like to see the numbers. Somebody must have unofficially done the testing.
@@joecanis484 on 37s I'm getting 13mpg
I have a 19 PW. 12-13 around town
Ours gets..High 11s to 13s city. 15s on the hwy. 4:10 rears don't give you alot of differences.
GREAT comparison between the two!
Have not had a truck in years.
I n the market now for a new truck. Decided on a ram.
Tough choice between the rebel and power wagon.
Decided on the power wagon. When optioned out in my case not that more expensive then a rebel plus easier to access my favorite hunting and fishing areas with the power wagon's better off road ability then the rebel in rough country!
Waiting for the arrival of the 2020 power wagon.
Just feedback on one of your points in the video. I had a Rebel with the same flooring as the Power Wagon here. The same folding flat platform with floor-mounted bins (no speakers). That's not specific to the 2500, it just depends on the options you buy in the truck. The 2500 series also come with the same floor as in your Rebel, again, depends on options. After buying my Rebel, I often longed for a PW myself. Now I have the 2019 2500. It is MUCH more capable on and off-road, and as a daily driver, it's almost as smooth a ride as the 1500. A bit more bed space, plus when hauling and towing similar loads, the 2500 does it better, and can do a lot more in a pinch.
Totally agree with your last comment!
That's one of my reasons why i am ordering a full loaded 2020 power wagon from my local dealer as soon as it is available.
A.E.V Prospector Power Wagon with 37's and leather interior. Tows my 10,000 lbs Toy hauler in soft sand dunes very well aired down and both lockers.
Wild wild Alex on the wild wild west!!!!
Not a truck guy and dont go off road but Rebel looks sweet for my suburban usage.
I love hearing from Nick as always, great video
Can’t get a large crew cab rebel with 6ft bed so power wagon because you can get crew cab with 6’4” bed. Power wagon for sure
Tfl actually did a on road fuel test between the 2 and they were very similar in fuel economy
From someone who has had both......my Power Wagon is getting about 14mpg......which is very similar to what my Rebel was getting about 15. When my wife drove the Rebel it would barely crack 11 mpg.
@@powerwagon1897 yea i wanted the rebel originally and stumbled across the PW... im waiting for it to arrive but nobody has even been able to test it on a off road challange... everyone has said it did their tests so easy they dont know what to rank it as it wasn't tested... like i said im still waiting but everything iv seen so far tells me a made a good choice
@@powerwagon1897 and if i get 14mpg id be more than happy with that
I really like that Alex came with the facts and ask some super interested questions! As pertaining to the power wagon
The ground clearance on the Rebel is slightly higher at the bottom of the differential because the pumpkin on the PW is larger. Also the Rebel tows 600#'s more.
Lol
I also think the TRX 2500 with a Diesel Will surpass the Tremor and any other Brand that try's to compete with Ram. I have to hand it to FCA.. The products coming from this company are really good.
I almost bought a power wagon. The only thing that stopped me was it got worst gas mileage then my old Truck. I heard that the mileage the power wagon can get is around 10 miles a gallon. So, I got a 2500 4x4 with the Cummins. And can still get 20mpg on the highway.
I had a 17 Rebel and now have a 19 PW. The Rebel got 14_15 in town and the PW gets about 12-13
Any Hemi powered Pacifica would be awesome!
This was really well done Alex. If it was up to me, I'd grab the 3/4 ton for the reasons Nick said.
I guess because of the narrower focus of the Power Wagon, that's the reason the low availability. Before I got my 2019 PW, I searched 250 mile radius ( houston, dallas). 14 new Power Wagons are all that came up. My local dealership rarely carries more than two a year but when he gets them, no one knows.
Great review Alex
Loving the power wagon
Lmao was just at a dealership today to trade in my rebel for a power wagon and I think I’m going to do it
Good job with Nick on the presentation.
almost thought i was watching TFL trucks from the background music
Its RUclips music they offer content makes royalty free so they dont copyright infringe. I've heard that song on other channels too
And then ViceDesigns came up with the integrated winch mount for the Rebel
I think if you put 3 inch lift kit on that Rebel it will look as big as that power wagon. You'll be surprised how inch or two make truck much bigger.
No.
@@starmc26 Yes. Also a gen 4 Rebel can fit 35's factory, with no rub in any mode (air suspension) with stock wheels. A Rebel on 35s w/a small lift narrows the off-road performance gap even more. Also, the difference will only be in EXTREME off-road situations. Rebels can perform 95% of the off-road situations the standard owner of a Power Wagon will encounter or subject themselves/their truck to. Ask me how I know.
Power wagen for sure...
If you buy the rebel... you have just spent a crazy amount of money... and still dont have what you REALLY want....
All in.... make yourself happy...
Or save the money and stay home...
Ps... why make yourself half happy??? Dah..🧠
Had two Power Wagon's, Now 2019 Rebel. Have Four Wheel Hawk Camper, had it on a 2016 Power Wagon, got a great buy on 2019 Ram Rebel Quad Cab, Rebel rides much better on highway and around town, with shorter wheel base of Quad cab is easier to park and drive off road. The rear differential on Power wagon has less clearance then the Rebel. Rebel gets about 3 mpg better than the Power Wagon around town, Rebel with less weight is much faster then Power Wagon. Loved my Power Wagon, but do not miss it at all, as I actually enjoy driving my Rebel around town with camper on it. I had to put air bags on the Power Wagon because of the weight of the FourWheel Hawk camper, with the 2019 Rebel I installed Timblem's, they just take the place of bump stops, and help support the weight of camper! Trouble with air bags, is getting them adjusted right, and they leak air.
Of course you're going to speak highly of the Rebel, you just bought one.
Uh, I think the quad cab has the longer bed so the length of the trucks should be the same. How is it more maneuverable around townwhen the overall length of the two trucks would be the same?
@@alpine9996 Quad Cab wheelbase is 140.5 inch, Crew Cab wheelbase is 144.6 inch. The shorter the wheelbase the more maneuverable the truck is. Quote from Fourwheeler magazine "The selectable rear locker and coil-spring suspension combined with the short wheelbase of the Quad Cab helped make the Ram Rebel the most capable truck we tested in nearly every terrain." I used to think the same way you do, but when I found out that the Quad Cab had shorter wheelbase I was sold!
I love the power wagon, but i would rather have a 6.7 Cummins instead
Alex, you wrote FWD and AWD
Instead of RWD and 4WD
I laughed for a second 🤣
Am I the only one here who actually double checked my other opened windows on my IE to see if some other video started playing itself? At 0:04? 😁😁😆
Good review 👍🏼💯 guys 🥇
I think Ram missed the mark when they kept the old interior in the new 2500. If I could get a Laramie interior (5 seat) on a PW, there would be no choice left to make. If the Laramie interior was available on the Rebel with the Ecodiesel, I would really have a hard choice to make.
It is the new interior? It has a floor mounted shifter for 4x4 that's why you can't get the console..
The 2500 crew cab is the same configuration as the 4th gen. The 1500 crew cab is bigger. I understand that the floor shifter is the reason you can’t get the 5 passenger configuration. I just am not sure the floor shifter adds much real benefit. The lockers and transmission are electronic. The other 4wds are all push button.
Just wish the PW could haul and tow more. You now have Ford making the Tremor which can come with the 6.7l Diesel and tow 18,000lbs and GM is getting into the game as well whereas the PW has been the only one in the segment hence the anemic numbers
That power wagon will tow 15,000 lbs
@@starmc26 no it won't. The engine has the power to tow that much but the suspension doesn't have the capability which is why they are rated for between 8 and 10k lbs
For point of reference how tall is Nick?
Well the Rebel Eco Diesel is going to take the cake..we all know that!!
You're right! Anybody who has ever done off roading knows all too well that it is brutal on milage. Specially the slow almost crawling stuff. 6-7 mpg is seen all too often. The king of milage would probably be a ZR2 with the Duramax, but the Rebel with the Ecodiesel would be close and much more comfortable. I won't argue the ZR2 would be more capable but I'm no longer into maximum off roading ability so the Rebel would be sufficient. Of course when the Gladiator gets the Ecodiesel, all bets are off.
@@denisleblanc4506the Gladiator will be amazing with a diesel the only problem is that Jeep seriously just might have priced themselves out of the market. I don't care what anyone says because when they first came out dealers had been marking them up so far it scared people away and bought something else now you have them sitting on lots everywhere!! It's a touchy thing bringing a new product to market and if you let dealers play games you end up loosing lots in the end!! To be honest 60k for a little truck is stupid especially in a economy where the dollar is so strong everywhere in the world!! I think they are 10k to high on price across the board!!! The ZR2 might win most efficient and price point truck!!
@@MikeWolff1 Agree. $5000-$10000 buys a lot of gas. The Silverado AT4 (I think) might be the cheapest turbodiesel (3 litre) in the end. It might undercut the ZR2 with the baby duramax.
Yup waiting on that.
@@denisleblanc4506 Chevy better do something.. their market share is in the toilet!! I'd buy the AT4 for the right money its a good looking truck!!
Another reason to get the Power Wagon? See how the road clears in front of you :)
I like your videos but please change your intro music. Or add more base to it. Very annoying highly pitched sound.
I feel like that guy is about to yell *yee yee*
Rebel with EcoDiesel or give me a 4x4 2500 with the big C on the side.
É incrível essas caminhonete s......
Power Wagon most definitely.
Power wagon all day long for me, without the graphic so maybe a tradesman
Power Wagon for me
Very intresting
So the diesel Rebel is the clear winner
Actually yeah. I wish you could get the power wagon with a cummins. I know it is "too heavy" for off road, and the wench might not fit, but the locker and other things are nice.
@@LucasLeCompteMusic yeah the only thing I sure hate is the red accents, I've just grown to love matte black interiors.
I would choose the Power Wagon if it didn't cost more than my first house!
RAM 2500 Power Wagon...!!!!
Towing with either one of these trucks will get you less than 8mpg.... that's a lot of time at a fuel station
Nick...👀👀
Get the original power wagon with the all-new 6.4 hemi 😁
Power Wagons
Diesel Rebel
Lol love it
the rebel fool😎😎😎
Power wagon!..
Buy a HD truck today go into debt today.
Now if only they'd fix the ifs front end on the Ram 1500 to not be junk.
1st world problem haha
2020 Ford Super Duty!
Intro&outro noise is highly annoying. Keep that western music instead.
Intro sucks. Power wagon is barely new