Hi guys, just to clarify a couple of things: 1 My core observation about divorce in India is that it's NOT common and actually even frowned upon. However it is happening more and more. Sorry for messing up the actual statistic, but if anything the seriously lower statistic proves my observation even more. 2 I would never advocate for anybody staying in an abusive marriage. However seeing people work it out through the most tough circumstances here in India makes you question the incredibly high divorce rates in the West. Especially when you hear reasons like 'we grew apart' for throwing away long serious relationships.
Indian family system is particularly stifling for introverts. I'm an Indian and I struggle horribly with people's general lack of understanding and respecting privacy/ boundaries. Somehow wanting to be by yourself is akin to insulting others. It makes me sick, actually physically sick. For introverts, needing space isn't a choice, its a necessity.
I'm suspicious of men who claim they are in love with me when they don't even know me. Lust and love are very different things, the first is superficial and will fizzle out if you don't really understand each other.
I must say l always lovedd your videos but l have to disagree on your views on dealing with abuse in marriage. My father was alcoholic and my parents' marriage lasted 25 years. I struggle with codependency till today and have problems with intimacy. I am 32 and still not looking to get married. Its all because my parents decided to keep a dysfunctional family working. I still remember the fits of rage my mother would fly into. l use to cut myself as a kid . keeping children in a violent marriage isn't EVER. good.Period!
Mistu That is such a sad thing to hear and I'm so sorry you had to go through this! If it's any consoloation I would never say people should stay in a marriage like that or put children through such a hell. What I meant is that I've seen people push past problems in India where people in the Netherlands give up for the most minor of reasons compared to that. I would never say you should stay in a bad marriage but a little less easy divorce thank now would be better for the Western society. Again I'm so sorry you had to go through that and I hope you have a better futuree ahead of you. Biggest hugs!
That's okay, l hope you understand that violence in marriage isn't something to deal with and come victorious out of. One shouldn't give up on marriage at the drop of a hat but there needs to be a balance. And you must draw the line whether you're a man/woman on how much to deal with within any relationship. Your mental and physical well being shouldn't be compromised. People who grew up in happy homes don't understand about the other side-i.e who deal with a bad marriage situation. I hope you understand now.
India has the lowest divorce rate in the world. 1.3 % divorce rate. 2nd is Chile with 3% as of 2018 data. By the way the video was well explained. Love to hear more about Dutch culture
who said a low divorce rate is a good thing? It may also suggest gender inequality where women r forced to stay married because the man gets the final say and because of patriachal ideas... isnt that what honour killings relate to and domestic abuse? I wouldnt say India has particulalry the best gender equality.
In India the core belief in any marriage is to make adjustments and compromises between two different people and even between the two families. These adjustments are made from both sides. Our family values are too strong to think about divorce until and unless the marriage is extremely abusive and staying in the marriage becomes extremely difficult.
Pros in the west: Freedom, open mindedness, and minding ones own business. Cons: The intolerance among people to their family getting involved in ones personal matters, like come on people, your parents have the right to help you out, talk it out. Let your partner or your parents help you out. Personal space is good but not to the extent that you can't tolerate even slight interference of your loved ones.
Yes parents are too involved in children's lives which is sometimes annoying. I am a 26 year old working woman, still they treat me as a baby and I need permission for almost everything! But I know they do that because they are concerned about my safety and happiness. But then if I have any problems ever I know they will help me tackle it all through. I never feel alone. Plus the joint family system is still surviving in India. So family is a very big thing. Family doesn't mean only the man wife and children. And I love that about India that it is still holding onto joint family or at least greater contact with all families and relatives rather than Living estranged lives like most people do in the West.
25 male still i will get scolding when I return to home late night (unreported earlier,informed earlier will be pardoned) and i have no objection if it happens even when I'm 40. Thats how we all are brought up. And we all are stayed, staying, will stay together.. happy family relationship
why dont you guys fight with your parents? It's your basic human right to be on your own and make your own decisions past legal age of 18. If they don't respect that, disrespect them! They still love you and in the end they will be the ones to surrender. Make them suffer to get your rights...
so the truth is parents are too protective and thats why people hide everything from them no suprise . it happened to me but now i just made them understood that its my life so now its ok
Coming back to the original comment the girl: even if they love you, they have no right to control everything you do and treat you like a baby. You're 26, working, you're definitely old enough to be making decisions on your own. It's not like your parents know better. Why would you need their permission? If you have questions you can still ask them na but they shouldn't see you as personal property
Most probably 3% in cities. In rural india it is way lower. I have known only 2 couples that are divorced inspite i was lived my entire life of 29 yrs here in ernakulam city, kerala
Indian culture is far more good than the culture practiced in western countries when it comes to relationships and marriage. Frequently changing your partner, going for hookups, getting divorced, cheating... degrades values of an individuals. There is no meaning of Trust, Love, satisfaction, humanity, cultural and ethical values if someone is practicing it. Start comprising, start loving, start changing, start solving problems if there are any, restore relations that's what Indian culture teaches... There is no concept like self Love.. You are here to love others. Love exists between two. Indians are blessed that western culture is not practiced in India... and I am proud of it. Divorce is an english word.. Talaaq is an arabic. There is no word for such concept in hindi.
The reason is Ivana, Majority of Indians have family values. Just look at schools their parents and grandparents would take care of their child, uncles and aunts come over and its always like that. Once you go that living together and hook up way, then bringing stability in family life is extremely difficult. Not because of the person, it is because they feel about the past and shame it, thats with both the genders. Women : Why can't I get a man? Men: Ofcourse! for hookup and fun why not, a whole lot will stand in queue!!! Law of Nature!! -- But for family and commitment (That involves Time, Money, and your life) for that there is no chance!! Like this is everywhere, a woman can get man for fun, and can feel what? Just fun all her life..?? No family no children relatives that is like a drought life Just for an instance if a Man knows about Woman past relationships why would he has to take care of the family ? While if this is known, most men would not even commit to getting into an official world-known marriage, but just then Men see woman for fun alone.. They may not tell you, but this is how the brain works. Have you seen Red Pill in U.S.A, Men chase excellence and keep Women as complimentary to their time. I hope this situation would not come to India and destroy mainly their kids and children who are going to school, and lack all the love they needed. It will destroy and it will destroy entirely what this Nation has built upon (Hospitality, love, care, it is all about giving ) India is not about Individualism or Liberty to do anything as you wish. Such examples are Netherlands, UK, USA. And in fact Indians do well in these countries especially U.S.A. So, family values must be the secret sauce :)
Here is the thing about taboos, some of them are justified. Just because something should be legal, does not mean it should be encouraged. By getting into hookups, you are losing a lot of valuable time in your young years when you should be bettering yourself, you are not making any progress whatsoever in finding a permanent partner and you are exposing yourself to emotional risks.
this dating/marriage subject is where my cultural shock appeared.. I was super shocked when my Indians friends explained me all that and like you said my mind exploded.... and even when Mexico is not like super open was something that shock me I think in this moment we are like in the middle of Netherlands and India when it comes to dating and marriage. but yes is also truth that we are not marrying anymore. every time I get to know or chat about all this I get amazed for all that I don't know.
Ahhhh it's so fascinating, right? Completely different than weMre used to but when you hear the rationale behind it does make sense. Especially for such a community centred society like India a lot of these things just work
oh and something really new here in my city which I personally got happy is " renewable marriages" marriage is not till death fall us apart now is renewable every 2 years to avoid bad term divorces if by 2 years you want to divorce for whatever the reason that is.. is going to be more easy to filled the papers. and if you want to remain married your vows will be renewed.. it's like putting is perspective your marriage and relationship for health and happiness of both parts
What you are talking about is literally the marriage scene but what you don't know is that In India there is a dating scene, we meet people by ourselves through dating apps,in college, school, workplace just like everywhere else, it's just hidden from parents, kids are like super secretive about it, that's all. Because if the parents find out we'll be grounded for life, (not all parents though, some are just very liberal) parents generally live under the assumption that their kids don't date, so when it comes to marriage, the kids who are brave enough and who have liberal families would introduce the person they love and get married and those who aren't that brave would just marry someone their parents chose.
Divorce rate is low because it's not even an option to a majority. People compromise. Couples live through dead relationships, bound to one another. Being a Divorcee in India is also considered bad. Hence some people don't get it. For men, it's easy to cheat on their wives; women are not financially independent and hence cannot think of divorce.
Almost 50% of the married couples I know, they don't seem happy, they can't bear each others presence after a few years of their marriage. It gets suffocating for them and yet they can't get rid of it. They blame their parents and evantually resort to cheating/ having affairs. Also in sone cases lead to crimes.
There is this Chinese friend i have .. she wants to stay in india forever .. and get away with the visa process again and again .. can u help with any information
I don't have any personal experience but I do have heard and seen people, specially poor women, stuck in abusive marriages with alcoholic husbands because the parents are against divorce. Some rich woman also suffer in marriage because the parents are like *what's gonna people say* Once I've even seen a woman was forced to stay in a abusive marriage by her parents and later her husband set her on fire and she suffered 50-60% burn. The neighbors saved her, but she got a trauma for life. Sometimes some stupid parents even convince the couple to have a baby to solve serious marriage problems, and thus bringing a innocent into the hell. Because if someone is in a abusive relationship for long and parents are trying to make things work for them, most of the time the abuser just scare the hell outta the abused so that he/she won't tell and if joint family the abuser try to hide his acts from the family and kids, maybe it become less frequent, but I don't believe the whole relationship changes for better Now a days, the situation is getting better because more and more women are independent and doesn't depend on parents or husband and thus doesn't have to think who's gonna take care of her financially
Women listen to their parents and stay in abusive marriage only if they are not educated or they don't have courage. Trust me - I have seen so many women walk out of marriage just because they had an argument with husband. I have seen some a woman elope with young neighbor after having two kids. So we can't generalize and show like women are victim always.
Ik vind het heel verdrietig dat een echtscheiding zo'n taboe is in India. Er moeten duizenden vrouwen (en mannen natuurlijk) gevangen zitten in hun huwelijk voor de rest van hun leven. Dan denk ik aan misbruik, geestelijke en fysieke mishandeling en ga zo maar door. Mijn mening is niet 'eraan werken', maar 'zo snel mogelijk weg daar!'. Heel informatieve video en ik hoop dat je snel helemaal genezen bent! 💖
Ja, maar op de andere hand heb bij ons vrouwen, die op eens vinden, dat er "meer in hun leven moet zijn", en op eens de scheiding willen, om "zich zelf te vinden". Zo is het mij gebeurd. En nu is mijn ex weer tezamen met een andere man, die zelfs dezelfde baan heeft als ik. En ik ben niet de enige met zo een ervaring. Het lijkt, dat vele vrouwen eind veertig op eens gek worden of in een "tweede puberteit" vallen. Het zelfde gebeurt natuurlijk ook met mannen, die naar 20, 25 jaren huwelijk op eens een jongere vrouw gaan zoeken. Normaal is dat alles niet...
Zarkovision Jullie hebben allebei gelijk. Wat ik bedoelde was dat Indiase mensen vaak door de moeilijkste omstandigheden werken, zoals bijvoorbeeld mishandeling. Dat wens je niemand toe maar als dat mogelijk is ga je jezelf inderdaad wel afvragen hoe legitiem schedingen zijn met als reden "we zijn uit elkaar gegroeid". Mijn perspectief daarop is compleet veranderd door wat ik hier in India heb gezien.
maite maite Ja eens! Dat wens je niemand toe en niemand zou daarmee moeten dealen door te blijven. Wat ik bedoelde was dat mensen daar blijkbaar wel toe in staat zijn na wat ik hier heb gezien. Dat geeft dan weer een compleet ander perspectief op veel scheidingen die je in NL ziet met als reden dat mensen uit elkaar gegroeid zijn. Ik ben daar heel erg ander tegenaan gaan kijken door wat ik hier heb gezien. Thanks lieverd, alles ok nu weer❤️
Actually India's overall divorce rate is only 1.3%. However this low figure is largely due to the socio economic status of women who simply cannot afford to get divorced and go back to their impoverished families. We probably need to compare figured based on socio economic status. Say, number of divorces per 100 marriages in the middle class.
Just search 'TVF Arranged Dating' on RUclips to get an idea how awkward it is to meet someone in presence of parents. It's way too funny and embarrassing as well.
See..sometimes children when deciding their partners themselves often get into relationships,marriages which often ends soon which generally the case of foreign countries...there the ..the stepmom stepdad cases have become common....and ...here in india divorce is really a controversial concept in which no one want to indulge...bcz here the wedding is just not between 2 individuals....but their families also connect...and if divorce like conditions happens here it not only affects the married ones but also affects their family,their dignity....but in foreign parents do not interefere much in their children lives ....they always seems to run from their responsibilities after high school....this should not be the case.....so families alltogether with their experiences choose life partners..and its not important that it always happens to be an arrange marriage....if someone loves other they readily envolve families..bcz here everyone wants to see their children happy....and so families see each others background,the girl or boy's behaviour or if the boy is capable of taking care of the girl and vice versa....so that the chances of divorce and all can be reduced....moreover in india people spend much money in the weddings and so they want the marriage to be successful...so .in case of families india is the best country in the world...
If two individuals can't live together happily .i don't know how are they going to live happy with people of the diverse world.. first priority is to seek happiness within you. If someone can deal himself or herself , I'm sure he or she can live with each other and win the world by love. We can not find the perfect match till the end of our life because we ourselves are not perfect. So there should be more emphasis on well being than Divorce. Divorce sometime becomes a taboo in modern age.
In the Netherlands it becomes uncommon to be happily married. Usually people, who get married when they are 30 or so, get divorced between 35 and 40. Being not in love anymore can be a reason. Seeking personal hedonism and finding it more important than family life can be a reason. If there are children the new relationship often leads to an assembled family. Women have in general more the upper hand in relationships. In the mayority of the cases it is the woman who ends the relationship. A lot of people are bored, decadent and often do not even try in a serious way to make a relationship work.
The whole family?? Yes that is a little bit akward for my understanding. But if I would live in India - I would not know better than that. So, other countries other customs. Northern europe is packed with self-determination. Fight for your luck - only you can do it - nobody else will do it for you. We are brought up strong and independent, but at the same time we are vulnerable like any other person on this planet... . Sadly sometimes we really must be reminded of compassion, love, patience... ah and romance?😁 keep up the romance indian boys & girls!!
Aedan TheGreat So so true! When I saw it just in the movie I was completely taken aback but it's just how things are done here. It's just different. Yes I completely agree! Some values are just getting lost because we focus so much on individuality in the West. Very fascinating to learn about them again here in India
Parent know what needed for good marriage .. we at that age only know girl should be good looking . Nowdays modern parent find matches online ask child to meet her alone if they like each other then second meeting is with parents ..save time and money. I wonder meeting with parent can be call as date ;)
in India this kind of dating apps which are for specific categories are called like matrimony but here is the catch the matrimony all romance drama it is for direct marriages
As per record we have only 1% divorce in the world. by practicing Indian culture we do enjoy life with single person as complete soul.plz do check sadhaguru video for details scientific reasoning. For family thing ya u can say self-centred other thing lik business wide open. Thr is deep psychology involved.hard to explain totally u can just enjoy it or consider as fact only. If someone really want to experience Indian this culture thn hav to marry to normal person mean avg with wealth coz thn ull find humbleness lov comment for life.thr is quote in granthas single word single ardhangini (wife) the man is true.
Please don't mind Ivana.... Marriages are most important in Eastern countries,, but it is common in the western countries.... Living relationships, premarital sex, extramarital affairs etc are common in the west but not in the East...
Pros in India: Your family gets to get involved and sort out some issues. The support system is great. Cons: Basically everything else about life in India is a con. People are super judgemental, bitchy and salty to those who defy the norms. Being in a live in, being a Divorcee, being homosexual, even something as simple as being born in a family of a lower class or caste. So its best for you if you just stick to your marriage even though you are not happy in it, show the world that it's all good; make sure the society approves. Because we Indians live to show it and fake it for the approval.
Hey ivana, you just stole my words. Even i think the same way. I think the young generation is becoming more and more modern. But the biggest problem is even when two people who are dating become too close in public, they are sometimes beaten in the public by older people because they think that violates their culture. But i think indian people should progress their thoughts with time.
in india marriage is painful for most of the people in case of a problem women has all the legal right. for example i know a person whose wife wanted a divorce but the husband didn't give that to her so she filed 9 cases against him in two different cities (bengaluru and chennai ),so finally i gave up and paid 5 million rupees as compensation.
In the U.S. it is not customary to date to a year before being exclusive. It is the same as the Netherlands. No harm no fowl. Just wanted you to understand.
other unknown person not giving room for rent to unmarried couple is so because society look at them and the tradition goes on changing and divorce goes on increases for example the house owner having a daughter she may follow then .similarly it may continously changes
But seriously here in india dating or being in relationship is very difficult especially in small city because in worse case there are always people who are targeting you for being with someone else whether it's her brother,family or ex..and honor killing is common in small cities
We have to kind of marriage and relationship once one who live in city second one is who live in town second one is a married earlier in young age in 20 22 who lives in Indian city they are study and University get have time to choose friend life partner then after arrange marriage
Yr views and assessments specially in respect of divorce & marriage in India & Neatherlands is really commendable. Thanks for yr valuable practical efforts in comparing the existing culture of India & Netherlands.
Yes, India have so many different of community, there are many religions also, there believe in nuclear society....so will found many of people conservative thinking about marriage...but not total
Speaking on feminism, Netherlands is tiny in front of Icelandic feminism, dutch are tough outside and sweet inside, I got over 26 dutch friends and they are all same, speaks hard but their intentions and feelings are good or kind like that
Whatever you are saying about dating in Netherland is complete out of my mind having contract relationships for years or months. If this would happen in india definitely first family will kills us then the society and then the religious beliefs.😂😂😂
Tinder happn also getting popular in India nowadays specially in the metro cities. And here hookup is not so our tradition in such apps. Everyone expect some beautiful and success relationship in such apps and all goes well can go for marriage.
No wonder even though bieng single guy .... my sis mom know password of my phone .....so first gf before i propose .... they introduced themself first ....
Most of your points are absolutely true about india. Few points which made me laugh like Parents knows better about us 🤣🤣. I think divorce rate shouldn't be a measure for success of a relationship but happiness.
I have lived in Bangalore for years and agree that divorce is much higher than the advertised 3%. First off in a large number of lower to low - middle class marriages they are not even registered so the divorce rate is not official. Second, Indian courts are really slow and I know a number of people waiting more than 3 years for a divorce. Next, there are men who have more than 2 wives. I know 2 auto drivers who live in the same house with 2 women and they are Hindu. There are loads of people who have thrown their partners out due to drinking or because they do not like them any more, and they end up moving in with other people, so cheating is rampant. I know of one family at least who went to the police to get their daughter out of a bad marriage, and then denied she was ever married. The kids were sent to a hostel and she was remarried off again as an unmarried woman. Divorce is definitely taboo, but like most things in India, there is a way to get around the rules. Also, a lot of people are stuck in really unhappy marriages. I met one unfortunate doctor, who was obviously gay, but was stuck in a marriage with a wife and kids which he could not relate to, but was trapped due to social pressure. It’s really hard to judge if you have not walked in someone else’s shoes. Bangalore is the home of the PG, and the rules to stay in those places are so strict when it comes to relationships, that it must pretty common for singles to try to get together, and those landlords will turn a blind eye for a few bucks. There are some pretty archaic British laws in the Indian penal code relating to relationships outside marriage, and the police tend to frown upon reports of wild youth, so you can end up in jail if locals complain about non married couples. It’s a bit of a double standard as usual in India, as there is a ton of scandals in Bollywood and Cricket with people turning a blind eye to their favorite actors/players. India is a great country, but you have to look under the image to uncover the real heart of the people. Indians know how to have fun, if you look closely.
Here in Pune,India..all my friends are living in with thier boyfriends🤭🤭 ofcourse without informing the landlord and just having a deal with other roomates😂
Nice VLOG Ivana👍👍👍 lots of information about Dutch culture n ur views about indian culture it's so nic..u r the best IVANA n HAPPY WOMENS DAY.. u r the best ambesdar of independent woman in 21st century 🙏🙏🙏😄😄😄I'm loving it n tek care of urself
Just one question... If in the west people stay in a relationship without marriage for so much time even then divorce happens readily.🤣🤣🤣.. And here arranged marriages last till the last breadth....how🙏🙏🙏
Her views are little old school. with regard to dating in India........the previous generation were like that......again there are different categories of people in India.....there are strict parents who don't allow dating & there are liberal parents who allow dating .. .......I allowed my children to date .........giving them freedom on the condition they treated me like a friend.......I would know if they are dating someone & had to take my approval before they did so... ....because they are young & can make mistakes............also my sincere advice to them was to meet the other person's family before they got involved.....because in India, it is important that the two families respect each other , .......
Presenting divorce figure in percentage ( % ) term os not suitable here.better persent it with number like out of 100 or out of thousand.and also quots no of couple living with marrage and without marrage.
I suggest you to watch Srinivasa kalyanam Telugu movie with English subtitles in Amazon prime then you know about what's going on in Indian marriages and what's the moral things we have in our culture
Don't worry..I hope that you will married "good character" guy and top job guy but you don't see rich guy...I am saying you that you must married "good character "guy and good job..good character guy could be love you.. beautiful life..
For the first time I realise people think what is Indian dating. wtf how can be that is dating. It's completely different phenomena. Indian do use Tinder and other dating apps with decent success rate. Because Indian girls are mostly very shy to express themselves and a big part of girls concened about family and society some of them even choose or like to choose a guy from her cast or religion 😂 And those who are open for love they easily get boyfriends. So It's hard in India to get a good match in tinder. It's mostly considered as hookup app or something like that.
Hey Ivana as You mentioned at 3:30 that there are dating apps for elderly people in the Netherlands, even in India we have a similar concept and we call it " Signal Budhape Mein Signal Yo Yo " 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂👵💞👴
Parents are indian tinderrrrr. Good one ....... But dont u ever think about arrange marriage or may be think in future do u prefer arrange over love marriage
Yeah, hello?... Imagine my shock after looking at Airbnb's for a month planning to visit my "guy friend" ( not boy--friend 😛😉) in India to find one ad (after looking at at least 30!) that said unmarried couples could not rent this place together because of the "society rules". I was like "How the hell is the whole society going to know what is going on in my apartment-- more than that-- why should I Care?!?? Lol. So. First, I learned about "society" taking on a WHOLE new ( horrifying, as an Indian American girl) meaning. Second, learning that 3 other places wouldn't allow it either!! I was like "Wth?! Is this 1833 or 2023?? Because I know for Sure Indians are hooking up in India now! Apparently they're just not doing it in AirbnBnb's! 😄😄😄 I literally had to google if it was illegal in India! It is not.However, like you said, it is still frowned on. So, a hotel it is! Apparently they're more accepting of it. And I learned there is a whole line of hotels where they *do* allow unmarried couples to share a room. Forgot the name.... but yeah! Crazy! Glad I found out --before-- booking the place though!
Firstly Happy Women's Day Ivana, Well Its an awesome video once again, I like it soo much. Our parents chooses partner for us , it's correct they know better than us about everything. Thanks Ivana For this Comparison, Now we get to know about Netherlands Culture. Your Analysis Is also 100% Correct, The Points your Compared between Countries are also freakin Awesome😂. Thank You Soo Much Once Again..😍
What 30%😱....you r unknowningly speaking or making an propoganda??....i actually noticed how foreign youtuber starts their vlogs about india by praising it earlier and then started showing their true colors...if that is the case then you should not speak up on India...you have to spend 20 years to know india.....This diversity and conservative mindset had helped us to fight against british empire...even they couldnt break us....its our culture to live woth our family..but now a day a stupid 9 to 5 job is more important than family...its a western idea of freedom..and certailny it leads to depresseion, anxiety, and mamy more mental issuses...it was not a case in this culture because people want to get settle by marriage.. In arranged marraige it is quite successful because you see every aspect of a opposite person whivh could lead to divorce..like family backgroung, economic condition etc...while in love marriage you ignore every aspect of other person and blindly love tlother person..then as time pass the love fades and the other aspects start bothering you....and it is more successful than love marriage in India..
I like the way how you present the present context of relationship , marriage and divorce by comparing the Dutch culture. And I was shocked with the raising data of divorce. Being an Indian I do love Indian culture of being giving importance to our marriage institution involving our parents and not to westernised everything . Here I don't mean that my culture is better or worse or your culture is better than us. I just mean that it's a region specific and let the culture and traditions be just on its own. Democratically it is good to go with the desire what a person want but being we are not the only one in the society there is times when society need more importance then the person itself. So the role of a parents in our marriage is of very much importance to uphold our moral values of marriage. Moreover in Indian culture marriage is not just about living together under a roof. Here I do want to remind you and old saying ... "to run a family is far far smaller then a find dust in the desert". - it means to run a family is not about the man and the woman in the marriage ..it is also about the future generations. .. our dignity ..our role to our children ...and so on... As we can see the result of a children brought up by a foster parents and the impact in the behavioural and health issues ( mentally and emotionally) here I don't want a parents to get divorce ...for there own sack... so before the marriage both the woman and the man need to see the far sight of what they are going to take up only then they should go for it .... Yes it is OK to divorce when the situation is going to be rough.. but as long as the children is concern I don't preferred it. On the other side being and indian man ofcourse ...we do prefer a virgin woman or a real divorcee (of good character) then a woman who have not married but slept with the unpredictable boyfriend or a cheating woman. You may argue that virginity is not a dignity but a lack of opportunity. ....yes I do accept that but we can remind that once you know the test of meat we do like to test again and again ... and not only these ...I want to ask to the person how on the world can do such things as sleeping with someone even before you get married...and I do want to say that if it is your biological need then try without others help.. and you don't need to go for sexplorism .... oh please don't blame on the biological needs .... As you see we human being have desire to discover everything but oh please don't try to discover others wife/husband private parts ..you known what you brake others family only for your own sack ...so you are the selfish one ... and those who break up after 7 -8 years of relationship or more, please behave your self and don't blame on the mere simple reason ..instead just say you are trying to discover another target .... so Everything depends on human brain and how you behave and please don't blame on the beautiful institutions of marriage
Marriage is a very much serious or holy kind of spritual journey in India , infact 80% indian marriages are arranged & strictly with in our caste , ... divorce was very rare in India 30 yrs before infact unthinkable but foreign western culture gradually spreading in India , which is very much fatal for our hindu culture infact we can't handle this situation like others, people in Netherlands or Norway or Denmark they have a long history of open minded liberal societies even Muslims can handle that too some extent ...but i believe we hindus can't handle , we are psychologically not ever prepared for such kind of relationships or breakups ....if we try that frequently perhaps there would be bigger problems in future like depression , murder etc will rise ...
Hi guys, just to clarify a couple of things:
1 My core observation about divorce in India is that it's NOT common and actually even frowned upon. However it is happening more and more.
Sorry for messing up the actual statistic, but if anything the seriously lower statistic proves my observation even more.
2 I would never advocate for anybody staying in an abusive marriage. However seeing people work it out through the most tough circumstances here in India makes you question the incredibly high divorce rates in the West. Especially when you hear reasons like 'we grew apart' for throwing away long serious relationships.
Thanks for understanding :)
Yes totally agree.
Dank je
India have less divorce rate
Appreciate your concerns 😁
Indian family system is particularly stifling for introverts. I'm an Indian and I struggle horribly with people's general lack of understanding and respecting privacy/ boundaries. Somehow wanting to be by yourself is akin to insulting others. It makes me sick, actually physically sick. For introverts, needing space isn't a choice, its a necessity.
Indians move into relationships, have fights, breakups and move on without even family(parents) knowing about it!!😂😂
Yeah, but that also means we have to do it hiding from our parents and it is only possible if you live in a different city than your parents.
@@ajinkyamehere5365 I think people do have schools/colleges/tuitions and most importantly an extra class on 14th february from the best teacher!!😂😂😂
Shantanu Gautam LOL
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I'm suspicious of men who claim they are in love with me when they don't even know me. Lust and love are very different things, the first is superficial and will fizzle out if you don't really understand each other.
@sud rai 🙏🙏🙌🙌🙌🙌
I must say l always lovedd your videos but l have to disagree on your views on dealing with abuse in marriage. My father was alcoholic and my parents' marriage lasted 25 years. I struggle with codependency till today and have problems with intimacy. I am 32 and still not looking to get married. Its all because my parents decided to keep a dysfunctional family working. I still remember the fits of rage my mother would fly into. l use to cut myself as a kid . keeping children in a violent marriage isn't EVER. good.Period!
Mistu That is such a sad thing to hear and I'm so sorry you had to go through this! If it's any consoloation I would never say people should stay in a marriage like that or put children through such a hell.
What I meant is that I've seen people push past problems in India where people in the Netherlands give up for the most minor of reasons compared to that. I would never say you should stay in a bad marriage but a little less easy divorce thank now would be better for the Western society.
Again I'm so sorry you had to go through that and I hope you have a better futuree ahead of you. Biggest hugs!
That's okay, l hope you understand that violence in marriage isn't something to deal with and come victorious out of. One shouldn't give up on marriage at the drop of a hat but there needs to be a balance. And you must draw the line whether you're a man/woman on how much to deal with within any relationship. Your mental and physical well being shouldn't be compromised. People who grew up in happy homes don't understand about the other side-i.e who deal with a bad marriage situation. I hope you understand now.
India has the lowest divorce rate in the world. 1.3 % divorce rate. 2nd is Chile with 3% as of 2018 data. By the way the video was well explained. Love to hear more about Dutch culture
I bet with time its gonna increase because society is fucking up nicely!!!
Increase of Western culture in india is creating trouble
who said a low divorce rate is a good thing? It may also suggest gender inequality where women r forced to stay married because the man gets the final say and because of patriachal ideas... isnt that what honour killings relate to and domestic abuse? I wouldnt say India has particulalry the best gender equality.
Women have no choice but to stay married. Getting divorced is very difficult in India...I know from personal experience. It almost killed me.
@GAME PLAYER you know too much...we need you down.
Indian Parents = Tinder🔥 😅😂😂😂
In India the core belief in any marriage is to make adjustments and compromises between two different people and even between the two families. These adjustments are made from both sides. Our family values are too strong to think about divorce until and unless the marriage is extremely abusive and staying in the marriage becomes extremely difficult.
Pros in the west: Freedom, open mindedness, and minding ones own business.
Cons: The intolerance among people to their family getting involved in ones personal matters, like come on people, your parents have the right to help you out, talk it out. Let your partner or your parents help you out. Personal space is good but not to the extent that you can't tolerate even slight interference of your loved ones.
Yes parents are too involved in children's lives which is sometimes annoying. I am a 26 year old working woman, still they treat me as a baby and I need permission for almost everything! But I know they do that because they are concerned about my safety and happiness. But then if I have any problems ever I know they will help me tackle it all through. I never feel alone. Plus the joint family system is still surviving in India. So family is a very big thing. Family doesn't mean only the man wife and children. And I love that about India that it is still holding onto joint family or at least greater contact with all families and relatives rather than Living estranged lives like most people do in the West.
25 male still i will get scolding when I return to home late night (unreported earlier,informed earlier will be pardoned) and i have no objection if it happens even when I'm 40. Thats how we all are brought up. And we all are stayed, staying, will stay together.. happy family relationship
why dont you guys fight with your parents? It's your basic human right to be on your own and make your own decisions past legal age of 18. If they don't respect that, disrespect them! They still love you and in the end they will be the ones to surrender. Make them suffer to get your rights...
so the truth is parents are too protective and thats why people hide everything from them no suprise .
it happened to me but now i just made them understood that its my life so now its ok
@@Raghavendra_Sawant why you get so mad and butthurt? You don't know me and my family lmao
Coming back to the original comment the girl: even if they love you, they have no right to control everything you do and treat you like a baby. You're 26, working, you're definitely old enough to be making decisions on your own. It's not like your parents know better. Why would you need their permission? If you have questions you can still ask them na but they shouldn't see you as personal property
Most probably 3% in cities. In rural india it is way lower. I have known only 2 couples that are divorced inspite i was lived my entire life of 29 yrs here in ernakulam city, kerala
Indian culture is far more good than the culture practiced in western countries when it comes to relationships and marriage.
Frequently changing your partner, going for hookups, getting divorced, cheating... degrades values of an individuals. There is no meaning of Trust, Love, satisfaction, humanity, cultural and ethical values if someone is practicing it. Start comprising, start loving, start changing, start solving problems if there are any, restore relations that's what Indian culture teaches...
There is no concept like self Love.. You are here to love others. Love exists between two. Indians are blessed that western culture is not practiced in India... and I am proud of it.
Divorce is an english word.. Talaaq is an arabic. There is no word for such concept in hindi.
That dating app concept for elderly is so cool and hey Ivana awesome video once again.
Donald Trump It so is! Thank you
You original Trump??
In india marriage is not just between 2 people but between both the familes as well... hence the family is given so much priority in marriage...
The reason is Ivana, Majority of Indians have family values. Just look at schools their parents and grandparents would take care of their child, uncles and aunts come over and its always like that. Once you go that living together and hook up way, then bringing stability in family life is extremely difficult. Not because of the person, it is because they feel about the past and shame it, thats with both the genders.
Women : Why can't I get a man?
Men: Ofcourse! for hookup and fun why not, a whole lot will stand in queue!!! Law of Nature!!
-- But for family and commitment (That involves Time, Money, and your life) for that there is no chance!! Like this is everywhere, a woman can get man for fun, and can feel what? Just fun all her life..?? No family no children relatives that is like a drought life
Just for an instance if a Man knows about Woman past relationships why would he has to take care of the family ?
While if this is known, most men would not even commit to getting into an official world-known marriage, but just then Men see woman for fun alone..
They may not tell you, but this is how the brain works. Have you seen Red Pill in U.S.A, Men chase excellence and keep Women as complimentary to their time. I hope this situation would not come to India and destroy mainly their kids and children who are going to school, and lack all the love they needed. It will destroy and it will destroy entirely what this Nation has built upon (Hospitality, love, care, it is all about giving ) India is not about Individualism or Liberty to do anything as you wish. Such examples are Netherlands, UK, USA. And in fact Indians do well in these countries especially U.S.A. So, family values must be the secret sauce :)
Here is the thing about taboos, some of them are justified. Just because something should be legal, does not mean it should be encouraged. By getting into hookups, you are losing a lot of valuable time in your young years when you should be bettering yourself, you are not making any progress whatsoever in finding a permanent partner and you are exposing yourself to emotional risks.
In india there is new trend when we love someone we tell our parents then our parents talk to their parents ...
And love marriage became arrangement
this dating/marriage subject is where my cultural shock appeared.. I was super shocked when my Indians friends explained me all that and like you said my mind exploded.... and even when Mexico is not like super open was something that shock me I think in this moment we are like in the middle of Netherlands and India when it comes to dating and marriage.
but yes is also truth that we are not marrying anymore.
every time I get to know or chat about all this I get amazed for all that I don't know.
Ahhhh it's so fascinating, right? Completely different than weMre used to but when you hear the rationale behind it does make sense. Especially for such a community centred society like India a lot of these things just work
oh and something really new here in my city which I personally got happy is " renewable marriages" marriage is not till death fall us apart now is renewable every 2 years to avoid bad term divorces
if by 2 years you want to divorce for whatever the reason that is.. is going to be more easy to filled the papers. and if you want to remain married your vows will be renewed..
it's like putting is perspective your marriage and relationship for health and happiness of both parts
Parents are like Tinder in India ha ha ha Gosh that was the most funniest comparison I’ve heard 🤣
You are right, She is So Innocently Funny, Comparing Human Beings to an App with AI...🤪
Funniest comparison but true🙂
What you are talking about is literally the marriage scene but what you don't know is that In India there is a dating scene, we meet people by ourselves through dating apps,in college, school, workplace just like everywhere else, it's just hidden from parents, kids are like super secretive about it, that's all. Because if the parents find out we'll be grounded for life, (not all parents though, some are just very liberal) parents generally live under the assumption that their kids don't date, so when it comes to marriage, the kids who are brave enough and who have liberal families would introduce the person they love and get married and those who aren't that brave would just marry someone their parents chose.
hahaaaha This is True... Indians First date is along with PARENTS+Siblings/both sides Family.. hahaha
Hihihi mad respect! Must be quite stressful
1st Date is better to say family dinner bc two of them not get time to talk 😅
Divorce rate is low because it's not even an option to a majority. People compromise. Couples live through dead relationships, bound to one another. Being a Divorcee in India is also considered bad. Hence some people don't get it. For men, it's easy to cheat on their wives; women are not financially independent and hence cannot think of divorce.
Jack k Very true
Almost 50% of the married couples I know, they don't seem happy, they can't bear each others presence after a few years of their marriage. It gets suffocating for them and yet they can't get rid of it. They blame their parents and evantually resort to cheating/ having affairs. Also in sone cases lead to crimes.
There is this Chinese friend i have .. she wants to stay in india forever .. and get away with the visa process again and again .. can u help with any information
I don't have any personal experience but I do have heard and seen people, specially poor women, stuck in abusive marriages with alcoholic husbands because the parents are against divorce.
Some rich woman also suffer in marriage because the parents are like *what's gonna people say*
Once I've even seen a woman was forced to stay in a abusive marriage by her parents and later her husband set her on fire and she suffered 50-60% burn. The neighbors saved her, but she got a trauma for life.
Sometimes some stupid parents even convince the couple to have a baby to solve serious marriage problems, and thus bringing a innocent into the hell. Because if someone is in a abusive relationship for long and parents are trying to make things work for them, most of the time the abuser just scare the hell outta the abused so that he/she won't tell and if joint family the abuser try to hide his acts from the family and kids, maybe it become less frequent, but I don't believe the whole relationship changes for better
Now a days, the situation is getting better because more and more women are independent and doesn't depend on parents or husband and thus doesn't have to think who's gonna take care of her financially
Women listen to their parents and stay in abusive marriage only if they are not educated or they don't have courage. Trust me - I have seen so many women walk out of marriage just because they had an argument with husband. I have seen some a woman elope with young neighbor after having two kids. So we can't generalize and show like women are victim always.
Hello Ivana!!!! How much is the chance of a father finding his daughter in the same dating app in Netherlands?
Interesting how so much can change from country to country, thanks for sharing!!
Your data is not correct its look like BBC.
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Ik vind het heel verdrietig dat een echtscheiding zo'n taboe is in India. Er moeten duizenden vrouwen (en mannen natuurlijk) gevangen zitten in hun huwelijk voor de rest van hun leven. Dan denk ik aan misbruik, geestelijke en fysieke mishandeling en ga zo maar door. Mijn mening is niet 'eraan werken', maar 'zo snel mogelijk weg daar!'. Heel informatieve video en ik hoop dat je snel helemaal genezen bent! 💖
Ja, maar op de andere hand heb bij ons vrouwen, die op eens vinden, dat er "meer in hun leven moet zijn", en op eens de scheiding willen, om "zich zelf te vinden". Zo is het mij gebeurd. En nu is mijn ex weer tezamen met een andere man, die zelfs dezelfde baan heeft als ik. En ik ben niet de enige met zo een ervaring. Het lijkt, dat vele vrouwen eind veertig op eens gek worden of in een "tweede puberteit" vallen. Het zelfde gebeurt natuurlijk ook met mannen, die naar 20, 25 jaren huwelijk op eens een jongere vrouw gaan zoeken. Normaal is dat alles niet...
Zarkovision Jullie hebben allebei gelijk.
Wat ik bedoelde was dat Indiase mensen vaak door de moeilijkste omstandigheden werken, zoals bijvoorbeeld mishandeling.
Dat wens je niemand toe maar als dat mogelijk is ga je jezelf inderdaad wel afvragen hoe legitiem schedingen zijn met als reden "we zijn uit elkaar gegroeid".
Mijn perspectief daarop is compleet veranderd door wat ik hier in India heb gezien.
maite maite Ja eens! Dat wens je niemand toe en niemand zou daarmee moeten dealen door te blijven.
Wat ik bedoelde was dat mensen daar blijkbaar wel toe in staat zijn na wat ik hier heb gezien. Dat geeft dan weer een compleet ander perspectief op veel scheidingen die je in NL ziet met als reden dat mensen uit elkaar gegroeid zijn. Ik ben daar heel erg ander tegenaan gaan kijken door wat ik hier heb gezien.
Thanks lieverd, alles ok nu weer❤️
Das is vanzelfsprekend. Er zijn twee extreme in der westerse Wereld en in India.
Actually India's overall divorce rate is only 1.3%. However this low figure is largely due to the socio economic status of women who simply cannot afford to get divorced and go back to their impoverished families. We probably need to compare figured based on socio economic status. Say, number of divorces per 100 marriages in the middle class.
Just search 'TVF Arranged Dating' on RUclips to get an idea how awkward it is to meet someone in presence of parents. It's way too funny and embarrassing as well.
Sameer Mittal Hahha cool!!!
By the way I am married and if you want any suggestion about Indian relationships you can contact me and you are always welcome
See..sometimes children when deciding their partners themselves often get into relationships,marriages which often ends soon which generally the case of foreign countries...there the ..the stepmom stepdad cases have become common....and ...here in india divorce is really a controversial concept in which no one want to indulge...bcz here the wedding is just not between 2 individuals....but their families also connect...and if divorce like conditions happens here it not only affects the married ones but also affects their family,their dignity....but in foreign parents do not interefere much in their children lives ....they always seems to run from their responsibilities after high school....this should not be the case.....so families alltogether with their experiences choose life partners..and its not important that it always happens to be an arrange marriage....if someone loves other they readily envolve families..bcz here everyone wants to see their children happy....and so families see each others background,the girl or boy's behaviour or if the boy is capable of taking care of the girl and vice versa....so that the chances of divorce and all can be reduced....moreover in india people spend much money in the weddings and so they want the marriage to be successful...so .in case of families india is the best country in the world...
Really brilliant video, loved the insight!
Akanksha Bapat Thank you!
If two individuals can't live together happily .i don't know how are they going to live happy with people of the diverse world.. first priority is to seek happiness within you. If someone can deal himself or herself , I'm sure he or she can live with each other and win the world by love. We can not find the perfect match till the end of our life because we ourselves are not perfect. So there should be more emphasis on well being than Divorce. Divorce sometime becomes a taboo in modern age.
In the Netherlands it becomes uncommon to be happily married. Usually people, who get married when they are 30 or so, get divorced between 35 and 40. Being not in love anymore can be a reason. Seeking personal hedonism and finding it more important than family life can be a reason. If there are children the new relationship often leads to an assembled family. Women have in general more the upper hand in relationships. In the mayority of the cases it is the woman who ends the relationship. A lot of people are bored, decadent and often do not even try in a serious way to make a relationship work.
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The whole family?? Yes that is a little bit akward for my understanding. But if I would live in India - I would not know better than that. So, other countries other customs.
Northern europe is packed with self-determination. Fight for your luck - only you can do it - nobody else will do it for you. We are brought up strong and independent, but at the same time we are vulnerable like any other person on this planet... .
Sadly sometimes we really must be reminded of compassion, love, patience... ah and romance?😁 keep up the romance indian boys & girls!!
Aedan TheGreat So so true! When I saw it just in the movie I was completely taken aback but it's just how things are done here. It's just different. Yes I completely agree! Some values are just getting lost because we focus so much on individuality in the West. Very fascinating to learn about them again here in India
Parent know what needed for good marriage .. we at that age only know girl should be good looking . Nowdays modern parent find matches online ask child to meet her alone if they like each other then second meeting is with parents ..save time and money. I wonder meeting with parent can be call as date ;)
Yaaaaay...waiting for your video...🤗
Whiiii hope you like it!
in India this kind of dating apps which are for specific categories are called like matrimony but here is the catch the matrimony all romance drama it is for direct marriages
As per record we have only 1% divorce in the world. by practicing Indian culture we do enjoy life with single person as complete soul.plz do check sadhaguru video for details scientific reasoning. For family thing ya u can say self-centred other thing lik business wide open.
Thr is deep psychology involved.hard to explain totally u can just enjoy it or consider as fact only.
If someone really want to experience Indian this culture thn hav to marry to normal person mean avg with wealth coz thn ull find humbleness lov comment for life.thr is quote in granthas single word single ardhangini (wife) the man is true.
Please don't mind Ivana.... Marriages are most important in Eastern countries,, but it is common in the western countries.... Living relationships, premarital sex, extramarital affairs etc are common in the west but not in the East...
Badhiya video hai. Bahut baatein jaan ne ko mili dono deshon ke baare mein. Aise videos banaate rehna. Happy women's day.
Pros in India: Your family gets to get involved and sort out some issues. The support system is great.
Cons: Basically everything else about life in India is a con. People are super judgemental, bitchy and salty to those who defy the norms. Being in a live in, being a Divorcee, being homosexual, even something as simple as being born in a family of a lower class or caste.
So its best for you if you just stick to your marriage even though you are not happy in it, show the world that it's all good; make sure the society approves. Because we Indians live to show it and fake it for the approval.
Just wanted to add a correction that the Indian divorce rate is 13/1000. So close to 1%. Perhaps higher for Indians living outside India.
Hey ivana, you just stole my words. Even i think the same way. I think the young generation is becoming more and more modern. But the biggest problem is even when two people who are dating become too close in public, they are sometimes beaten in the public by older people because they think that violates their culture. But i think indian people should progress their thoughts with time.
in india marriage is painful for most of the people in case of a problem women has all the legal right. for example i know a person whose wife wanted a divorce but the husband didn't give that to her so she filed 9 cases against him in two different cities (bengaluru and chennai ),so finally i gave up and paid 5 million rupees as compensation.
Mahesvar Tr Yep I've heard about this too!
Ha!! Finally... Very interesting and informative 😁. Thanks.
What is your status about relation in india...........
In the U.S. it is not customary to date to a year before being exclusive. It is the same as the Netherlands. No harm no fowl. Just wanted you to understand.
Oh that's cool to know! Thank you!
this channel is going to grow. thumbs up from india..
other unknown person not giving room for rent to unmarried couple is so because society look at them and the tradition goes on changing and divorce goes on increases for example the house owner having a daughter she may follow then .similarly it may continously changes
But seriously here in india dating or being in relationship is very difficult especially in small city because in worse case there are always people who are targeting you for being with someone else whether it's her brother,family or ex..and honor killing is common in small cities
We have to kind of marriage and relationship once one who live in city second one is who live in town second one is a married earlier in young age in 20 22 who lives in Indian city they are study and University get have time to choose friend life partner then after arrange marriage
Yr views and assessments specially in respect of divorce & marriage in India & Neatherlands is really commendable. Thanks for yr valuable practical efforts in comparing the existing culture of India & Netherlands.
Let me tell you In my whole life of 23years I have never seen any divorced couple except Bollywood actors..🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣...
Where did you get this data of 30% divorce in India? I feel it's a wrong data...
Happy women's day ivana didi. You are my one of female role model 👌✌️❤️😊
solanki suraj Aw thank you so much!!!! Happy women's day!
Ok, I agree so what you think deference in love about Netherland an Indian people ?
Yes, India have so many different of community, there are many religions also, there believe in nuclear society....so will found many of people conservative thinking about marriage...but not total
Speaking on feminism, Netherlands is tiny in front of Icelandic feminism, dutch are tough outside and sweet inside, I got over 26 dutch friends and they are all same, speaks hard but their intentions and feelings are good or kind like that
i think divorce is not common in india .i have never seen that much .basically in telangana,hyderabad.
Whatever you are saying about dating in Netherland is complete out of my mind having contract relationships for years or months. If this would happen in india definitely first family will kills us then the society and then the religious beliefs.😂😂😂
Tinder happn also getting popular in India nowadays specially in the metro cities. And here hookup is not so our tradition in such apps. Everyone expect some beautiful and success relationship in such apps and all goes well can go for marriage.
Netherlands is one of my favorite countries and a must go place in my bucket list. 😊
Awesome, so happy to hear you like it so much!
No wonder even though bieng single guy .... my sis mom know password of my phone .....so first gf before i propose .... they introduced themself first ....
Most of your points are absolutely true about india. Few points which made me laugh like Parents knows better about us 🤣🤣. I think divorce rate shouldn't be a measure for success of a relationship but happiness.
I have lived in Bangalore for years and agree that divorce is much higher than the advertised 3%. First off in a large number of lower to low - middle class marriages they are not even registered so the divorce rate is not official. Second, Indian courts are really slow and I know a number of people waiting more than 3 years for a divorce. Next, there are men who have more than 2 wives. I know 2 auto drivers who live in the same house with 2 women and they are Hindu. There are loads of people who have thrown their partners out due to drinking or because they do not like them any more, and they end up moving in with other people, so cheating is rampant. I know of one family at least who went to the police to get their daughter out of a bad marriage, and then denied she was ever married. The kids were sent to a hostel and she was remarried off again as an unmarried woman. Divorce is definitely taboo, but like most things in India, there is a way to get around the rules. Also, a lot of people are stuck in really unhappy marriages. I met one unfortunate doctor, who was obviously gay, but was stuck in a marriage with a wife and kids which he could not relate to, but was trapped due to social pressure. It’s really hard to judge if you have not walked in someone else’s shoes. Bangalore is the home of the PG, and the rules to stay in those places are so strict when it comes to relationships, that it must pretty common for singles to try to get together, and those landlords will turn a blind eye for a few bucks. There are some pretty archaic British laws in the Indian penal code relating to relationships outside marriage, and the police tend to frown upon reports of wild youth, so you can end up in jail if locals complain about non married couples. It’s a bit of a double standard as usual in India, as there is a ton of scandals in Bollywood and Cricket with people turning a blind eye to their favorite actors/players.
India is a great country, but you have to look under the image to uncover the real heart of the people. Indians know how to have fun, if you look closely.
Since you been into relationship with 2 persons ... as u said ex boy friends ... why didn’t you got married to them ???
Here in Pune,India..all my friends are living in with thier boyfriends🤭🤭
ofcourse without informing the landlord and just having a deal with other roomates😂
Happy Woman's Day. Mutual respect is the key.
EeSan Happy women's day!!!
Nice VLOG Ivana👍👍👍 lots of information about Dutch culture n ur views about indian culture it's so nic..u r the best IVANA n HAPPY WOMENS DAY.. u r the best ambesdar of independent woman in 21st century 🙏🙏🙏😄😄😄I'm loving it n tek care of urself
KAPIL 21 Thank you so much!!!
Where do you live in Bangalore :)
Just one question... If in the west people stay in a relationship without marriage for so much time even then divorce happens readily.🤣🤣🤣.. And here arranged marriages last till the last breadth....how🙏🙏🙏
Her views are little old school. with regard to dating in India........the previous generation were like that......again there are different categories of people in India.....there are strict parents who don't allow dating & there are liberal parents who allow dating ..
.......I allowed my children to date .........giving them freedom on the condition they treated me like a friend.......I would know if they are dating someone & had to take my approval before they did so...
....because they are young & can make mistakes............also my sincere advice to them was to meet the other person's family before they got involved.....because in India, it is important that the two families respect each other , .......
Presenting divorce figure in percentage ( % ) term os not suitable here.better persent it with number like out of 100 or out of thousand.and also quots no of couple living with marrage and without marrage.
VERY HILARIOUS, FASCINATING & AMAZING CULTURES. Cheers
Googlie Googlinkty Haha thank you!
In India , marriage is more of an adjustments for many.
Netherlands is my favourite country
I suggest you to watch Srinivasa kalyanam Telugu movie with English subtitles in Amazon prime then you know about what's going on in Indian marriages and what's the moral things we have in our culture
Don't worry..I hope that you will married "good character" guy and top job guy but you don't see rich guy...I am saying you that you must married "good character "guy and good job..good character guy could be love you.. beautiful life..
thr hhu Haha we'll see!
Explore Hyderabad ! It's interesting 😉
Hi I wish u can visit Mysore for dasara festival which is 410 anniversary year celebration of royal n majestic celebration in month of October
Good observation!
But it's not like that in North East India. It's totally different here.
Where were you Ivana these days. I missed your vlog a lot.
Sandy Johar Bishnoi I was sick
For the first time I realise people think what is Indian dating. wtf how can be that is dating. It's completely different phenomena. Indian do use Tinder and other dating apps with decent success rate. Because Indian girls are mostly very shy to express themselves and a big part of girls concened about family and society some of them even choose or like to choose a guy from her cast or religion 😂 And those who are open for love they easily get boyfriends. So It's hard in India to get a good match in tinder. It's mostly considered as hookup app or something like that.
Hey Ivana as You mentioned at 3:30 that there are dating apps for elderly people in the Netherlands, even in India we have a similar concept and we call it " Signal Budhape Mein Signal Yo Yo " 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂👵💞👴
4 more shots please is fun! Have you watched Made in Heaven yet? I loved it!
Oh and about living together and young adults relationships there is "Little Things" on Netflix / Dice Media!
Yup currently addicted to MIH!
Parents are indian tinderrrrr. Good one ....... But dont u ever think about arrange marriage or may be think in future do u prefer arrange over love marriage
Yeah, hello?... Imagine my shock after looking at Airbnb's for a month planning to visit my "guy friend" ( not boy--friend 😛😉) in India to find one ad (after looking at at least 30!) that said unmarried couples could not rent this place together because of the "society rules". I was like "How the hell is the whole society going to know what is going on in my apartment-- more than that-- why should I Care?!?? Lol. So. First, I learned about "society" taking on a WHOLE new ( horrifying, as an Indian American girl) meaning. Second, learning that 3 other places wouldn't allow it either!! I was like "Wth?! Is this 1833 or 2023?? Because I know for Sure Indians are hooking up in India now! Apparently they're just not doing it in AirbnBnb's! 😄😄😄 I literally had to google if it was illegal in India! It is not.However, like you said, it is still frowned on. So, a hotel it is! Apparently they're more accepting of it. And I learned there is a whole line of hotels where they *do* allow unmarried couples to share a room. Forgot the name.... but yeah! Crazy! Glad I found out --before-- booking the place though!
You just boosted my knowledge in this field...perfect video ...
Firstly Happy Women's Day Ivana, Well Its an awesome video once again, I like it soo much.
Our parents chooses partner for us , it's correct they know better than us about everything.
Thanks Ivana For this Comparison, Now we get to know about Netherlands Culture.
Your Analysis Is also 100% Correct, The Points your Compared between Countries are also freakin Awesome😂.
Thank You Soo Much Once Again..😍
What 30%😱....you r unknowningly speaking or making an propoganda??....i actually noticed how foreign youtuber starts their vlogs about india by praising it earlier and then started showing their true colors...if that is the case then you should not speak up on India...you have to spend 20 years to know india.....This diversity and conservative mindset had helped us to fight against british empire...even they couldnt break us....its our culture to live woth our family..but now a day a stupid 9 to 5 job is more important than family...its a western idea of freedom..and certailny it leads to depresseion, anxiety, and mamy more mental issuses...it was not a case in this culture because people want to get settle by marriage..
In arranged marraige it is quite successful because you see every aspect of a opposite person whivh could lead to divorce..like family backgroung, economic condition etc...while in love marriage you ignore every aspect of other person and blindly love tlother person..then as time pass the love fades and the other aspects start bothering you....and it is more successful than love marriage in India..
I am 23 & I will be happy if my parents choose my life partner for me but If I choose someone they won't forbid me.
3-5% divorce rate ... Not 30% ma'am..... Divorce is a huge taboo in India.
I dont know why i have this big smile on my face whenever i watch her RUclips videos.
Is that strange???😂
I like the way how you present the present context of relationship , marriage and divorce by comparing the Dutch culture. And I was shocked with the raising data of divorce. Being an Indian I do love Indian culture of being giving importance to our marriage institution involving our parents and not to westernised everything . Here I don't mean that my culture is better or worse or your culture is better than us. I just mean that it's a region specific and let the culture and traditions be just on its own. Democratically it is good to go with the desire what a person want but being we are not the only one in the society there is times when society need more importance then the person itself. So the role of a parents in our marriage is of very much importance to uphold our moral values of marriage. Moreover in Indian culture marriage is not just about living together under a roof. Here I do want to remind you and old saying ... "to run a family is far far smaller then a find dust in the desert". - it means to run a family is not about the man and the woman in the marriage ..it is also about the future generations. .. our dignity ..our role to our children ...and so on... As we can see the result of a children brought up by a foster parents and the impact in the behavioural and health issues ( mentally and emotionally) here I don't want a parents to get divorce ...for there own sack... so before the marriage both the woman and the man need to see the far sight of what they are going to take up only then they should go for it .... Yes it is OK to divorce when the situation is going to be rough.. but as long as the children is concern I don't preferred it. On the other side being and indian man ofcourse ...we do prefer a virgin woman or a real divorcee (of good character) then a woman who have not married but slept with the unpredictable boyfriend or a cheating woman. You may argue that virginity is not a dignity but a lack of opportunity. ....yes I do accept that but we can remind that once you know the test of meat we do like to test again and again ... and not only these ...I want to ask to the person how on the world can do such things as sleeping with someone even before you get married...and I do want to say that if it is your biological need then try without others help.. and you don't need to go for sexplorism .... oh please don't blame on the biological needs .... As you see we human being have desire to discover everything but oh please don't try to discover others wife/husband private parts ..you known what you brake others family only for your own sack ...so you are the selfish one ... and those who break up after 7 -8 years of relationship or more, please behave your self and don't blame on the mere simple reason ..instead just say you are trying to discover another target .... so Everything depends on human brain and how you behave and please don't blame on the beautiful institutions of marriage
In India
You are not allowed to go with girl before marriage in general
You described so well! Thank You!!
Marriage is a very much serious or holy kind of spritual journey in India , infact 80% indian marriages are arranged & strictly with in our caste , ... divorce was very rare in India 30 yrs before infact unthinkable but foreign western culture gradually spreading in India , which is very much fatal for our hindu culture infact we can't handle this situation like others, people in Netherlands or Norway or Denmark they have a long history of open minded liberal societies even Muslims can handle that too some extent ...but i believe we hindus can't handle , we are psychologically not ever prepared for such kind of relationships or breakups ....if we try that frequently perhaps there would be bigger problems in future like depression , murder etc will rise ...
Meeting u after a long time.
Sorry for the examinations
Ashish Singh Welcome back!!