Solution to Israel-Palestine conflict | Bassem Youssef and Lex Fridman
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Guest bio: Bassem Youssef is an Egyptian-American comedian & satirist, referred to as the Jon Stewart of the Arab World.
What's up Mr confused. How's it going giving a platform to all the dictators and liars. What was your argument as long as they are willing to talk you will provide a platform for anyone like a... You're not bad but you're still a bit of hypocrite
The comment section is basically: Why did the home owner fight back? he could have shared the home he had if he remained peaceful during the robbery and murder of his children.
The homeowner being the Palestinians
Nah actually they can't
Lol
That is a lie. 45 to 50 milions and millions around the world gave their homes up for peace . Everyone except palestinians . So no , they cant have it , they are not special.
At some point every country surrenders though.
Also statutes of limitations. How long does Israel have to hold Palestine land before it belongs to Israel
Bassem has the kindest most professional way of saying that israel is to blame for the worlds problems.
Their actions over the last 76+ years and now have proved Bassem true. Israel is fully exposed and is now a Pariah state to the rest of the world. There is no going back for them. Hoping for justice & peace and a 1 state / 2 state solution soon
he is not wrong. the occupation is the problem. no occupation = no resistance
I bet you blame the arabs or Palestinians for the problem?? When they are the ones being occupied in the first place?? People like you who have no understanding about a civilized conversation like they are having in this podcast is the problem and are seeing things only from one lense wake up and be fair in your judgment dude
@@zekriamine7842 israel pulled every jewish person forcibly out of gaza in 05. the Palestinians were left to do as they wished with gaza. they elected a group that has in its charter the killing of the jews and obliteration of israel. they then launched 6000 rockets into israel. israel then blockaded gaza.
hamas has occupied gaza for nearly two decades.
what occupation are you referring to?
@@zekriamine7842 jews are dangerous with their jewish religion.
Gilbert Gottfried told a story about a man, a magic lamp, a genie, and a map of the Middle East. The man wished for peace between the Israelis and Palestinians. I miss Gilbert.
The Egyptian wall doesn't come up much in these conversations
Nope, or Jordan who has the largest Palestinian population in the area. No other Arab countries want anyone from that area because they know they'll be importing terrorism to their countries.
@@shawnsdrumcaveDon't forget Jordan revoked citizenship of many of the Palestinians living in the West Bank.
@@barrybkopicz2845do you know why or do you just like going around saying that? At least half of Jordan is Palestinians. They can’t afford to take anyone because they got no oil or natural resources.
Egypt didn’t kick the Palestinians out of their homes in 1948 now did they?
@@ghostirq In 1970, Jordan expelled some 20,000 Palestinians and demolished their camps; in 1994-95, Libya expelled tens of thousands of long-term Palestinian residents in response to the Oslo process; and after the 2003 Iraq war, some 21,000 Palestinians fled the country in response to a systematic terror and persecution campaign. As recently as 2007, Beirut effectively displaced 31,400 Palestinian refugees when the Lebanese army destroyed the Nahr el Bared refugee camp during fighting between the militant Fatal al-Islam group and the Lebanese army.
This guy is from Egypt. He said Israel doesn’t want to give up land for peace, but that’s exactly what Israel did with Egypt. They gave back all of Sinai for peace.
He referring to the West Bank & gaza strip
Israel gave back all of Sinai because Egypt win the war in 6 October 1973 ..
zionists want and dream with
The whole Israel from the Nile to the river...
@@nezarshdeed5314but he is also stating that they don’t give land. Israel was well into mainland Egypt but US intervened and wanted peace between them. Israel won and could’ve kept the entire peninsula.
@@JJVJ11 I understand what you’re saying but Egypt is a country & Israel is a country with recognized borders. In regards to the Palestinian issue they’ve never given anything to the Palestinian authority. Even when Israel withdrew from gaza in 2006 the Israelis control everything from the land , Air, & sea. All the port of entries, In fact a Palestinian in gaza cannot go to meet Palestinians in the West Bank. Moreover, they need permission to receive basic cancer treatments which is purposely delayed, even for a Palestinian to travel to another Arabic country they need to ask permission. & the vast majority of the time they’re declined. Another thing to consider is the West Bank they’ve been taking land from there for decades. Piece by piece.
@@JJVJ11 Israel did not win shit ignorant . Israel did not win one single battle against Egypt after crossing the canal plus the U.S made a whole new army in few days for Israel and yet the did not make a single win against Egypt . However, all they did they cutoff supplies to the Egyptian third army by the enormous help of the US and that was it if they were to attack the the third army the second Egypt army would have demolished the Israeli military across the canal .
Could anyone send me a link to the palestinian peace offer?
They are asking for 22% of their historic land, the West Bank and Gaza. This is called "1967 borders". They've taken it before the U.N. numerous times and the entire world supports it, except Israel and America. It gets vetoed by America.
There’s been 7-8 over 80 years.
@@wyredmusicNice joke lol
We can send you the united nations resolutions over the last 50 years would that be okay? What's your email
its called rewriting history.
the charter of hamas explicitly calls for jihad to obtain all of the land. peaceful solutions and the idea of splitting the land are out of the question in their own words.
I think Bassam is correct that Israel has made many mistakes and their current government won’t solve the problem. The US in partnership with the Arab States should absolutely step and help put an end to this and figure out a long term solution. My issue is he completely absolves the Palestinians and the other Arab states from their role in architecting the current situation. Let’s just forget about the various wars and sneak attacks that sowed the seeds of distrust, the terror attacks on Israelis in their country or abroad (Olympic slayings), and the various edicts groups like Hamas have made about the elimination of their state and people. Let’s not be intellectually dishonest. Fault is a two way street here
And what their response would be is that Gaza has essentially been a settlement for the past 30 years by Israel which bred the current terrorism. End of the day these people have historically been incapable, and even unwilling, to govern themselves and have instead chosen to live with a chip on their shoulder for all of eternity however justified that chip may be.
If we lived in less charitable times, their people would have been stomped out years ago. Unfortunately, this is what happens when we engineer natural selection nowadays to everyone’s suffering. No different than conserving one species of birds over another.
If I create the conditions for terrorism to raise can I then blame them ? Have the Palestinians made mistakes of course but when peace Is no longer an option violence seems like the only option and from there grounded reality are they wrong? What are there options where is the hope? What hope of a better future for themselves and there families do they have?
@@user-ik5ze1sh7i none because they’ve determined that peace is not an option. That’s the entire plot dude.
@@user-ik5ze1sh7i so you’re blaming Israel for freely giving them their own land and choosing not to control their own destiny within it? Have you considered the absurdity of a much stronger nation ALLOWING its enemies to live freely, and not just living freely, but giving them a place to live?
@@Isaac-bk4kw peace isn’t in the Arab language and hasn’t been for thousands of years.
Thank you
What do people mean when they say this issue isn’t being given enough attention?
lol it’s because they think if people knew ( the narrative that they themselves heard) they would “fix” this “atrocity” of the homeless “Palestinians”
Just some parroted virtue-signalling BS. Same as the people that claim "mainstream media only supports israel" which is just rubbish, theyve been pretty unbiased throughout the conflict, in fact ive seen news segments empathic towards palestinians FAR MORE than israelis over the last 6 months.
Preach!
finally this guy gets some time to speak.. everyone always interrupts him...
Sunlight is always the best solution, at least now we know this guy is totally biased to one side
@@benjaminhon86 Dude is nothing special to non muslims, but to muslims he is worshipped lol.
For good reason full of lies
@@benjaminhon86 being factual is one-sided?
@@ll4680what lies did he tell?
The commitment to peace is always, if we choose to stay intellectually consistent with history, the colonizers responsibility.
2:42 - As I recal, while hosting the peace talks in Sharm Al Sheikh, Hosni Mubarak (president of Egypt) leaned over towards Arafat and in a stern voice told him to "sign the document you dog!".
Mubarak opinion is your reference😅.good for you
@@muhammedsalama900 was he not a dog that stole from his people?
If you were to dismiss the opinion of some random Arab on the street, then I would understand. But to dismiss the opinion of the president of to biggest Arab country in the region?!?! Then who can we take seriously? Can we take this Egyptian comedian, who was threatened so bad that he had to leave his country, seriously?
Lex: What’s your solution?
Bassem: Israel does not want a solution and the Arabs treated Jews well before they had a state.
It’s called a realistic answer (at least the first part). Why would Israel want a solution if they other side don’t have any power/leverage? It’s not a moral question, it’s just a realistic assessment.
@@azorahai8846called not answering the question. Germany perpetrated a war that resulted in the deaths of nearly a hundred million people. Eventually they sued for peace. Conflicts come to an end. There is always a solution. If he’s afraid to speak his truth then he just say that. His truth is that he believes the state of Israel should be dismantled and that the land be given back to the Palestinians and that the Arabs will treat the Jews well. That’s the only reason he would bother telling that story in response to “what is a solution.”
There are many solutions that would be 1 million times better than the current reality. Jon Stewarts two state solution where Palestine is overseen by several nations is a great solution, unless unless unless the mind is I want everything or nothing until I get everything. The US could write a constitution and put billions to rebuilding Palestine and providing safety to the people. They would have lives 500 times better than their current lives. Freedom of movement. Education. Food. Security. But if your idea is that you can’t have those things because you want what you never had(remember this was Ottoman owned territory), then yah, no solution exist, and that stubbornness will continue the pain of millions.
It's called: Hallucinations.
You were really expecting a comedian to give a solution
Then why bother asking him. He definitely doesn’t know what he is talking about.
The Israelites managed to make Judas betray Jesus for merely 30 pieces of silver, and Judas offed himself because of it soon after. It says a lot how influence and wealth through power can lead someone down the wrong path. Love god, your family, your friends, and most importantly your enemies. It’s the only true way out of all this mess.
In the time of madness, the fool is wisest.
Rick and morty came up w the "pretty simple if you think about it" plan
You've never had sex.
Joseph Haddad - Israeli Christian Arab..have him on.
😂
He’s a propagandist doesn’t represent 90% of Arab Christians
Every second word coming out his mouth is a total lie and massively exaggerated. He may come across as a nice and open minded guy, however the propaganda he's non stop spewing is probably his best comedy, considering it's all lies. He's a mouth peice for the arab street which isn't objective nor factual, rather a hateful society where mein kompf is one of the best selling books and jew hatred is rapid. He said " I don't want to defend hamas ", but that's exactly what he did. This dude is a pathetic chronological lying ass clown!!
Its a Shame that Lex gave him a stage, without any basic and factual rebuttals.
@@lolos107 - no, he is not. He is not filled with hate against the Jews. He probably realizes that he is descended from the Jews and not from the Saudi Arabians. Or maybe he reads the line in the Old testament very closely where it says that those who curse the Jews will be cursed as we've seen in the case of the Arabs and Germans those who bless the Jews will be blessed.
@@lolos107 hey 7abibi, I'm christian Arab Israeli, he represents us perfectly well. It's the only country in the middle east were Christians are thriving and not being persecuted or ruled over by islamists. Yes this includes Lebanon too.
Or did England really have the rights to give away palestina?
Gave it to the UN, no?
Why not ? So to give away land that you currently hold to Arabs ( which they denied by the way ) is ok and to the indigenous Jews is not ?
Right of conquest.
@@yevgenymashenberg2369indigenous? You mean European converts
@@The_Mosaicthen there also exists a right to reconquest
how it's hopless for both sides one side have everything and more the other side have nothing and no recoginition add above that get killed as routine
Who?
@@gnlout7403 the people in gaza they are living in prison before the 7th of october with contuniouse wars since 2005
@@user-hw3ms8jo2u Israel pulled every Jewish jew out of Gaza in 05.
The Palestinians held elections and chose a group that has in its charter the extermination of the jews and the obliteration of Israel.
Read the charter my friend.
What do they want to do to the jews?
It matters. Israel didn't just willy nilly blockade Gaza for no reason.
Hamad launched thousands of rockets into Israel. Then Israel blockaded Gaza.
@@user-hw3ms8jo2u pull up a copy of the charter. Read article seven - the slogan of the Islamic resistance movement.
Whst do the rocks and trees say?
Get educated on the topic before embarrassing yourself with the stupid narrative of the mass media.
You had a few real scholars on the last debate you reference and you give this guy a whole interview, its absurd and a disservice to the conversation and a disservice to the real scholarship done on both sides which was demonstrated on the last interview.
Thankyouuu Lex , ❤
ما الحل يا حبيبي؟ ولم أسمع الحل.
The Saudi an Emirates told Arafat to sign the deal straight away, and that he would be a criminal for not signing it.
Same story with abu mazen and ulmert
Countries tend not to just hand over land. Either money or war is needed. I mean, in a perfect peaceful world he's right. But we don't live in such a world.
Exactly what he’s saying
the difference between this clip and Brendan O'neill on Joe Rogan's pod is stark.
Why do you have just random people who are not actually experts on the conflict on?
Doesn't take an expert to see what is happening in this conflict.
He also has family in Gaza. His wife's parent are still in Gaza. They can't get out. He may not be an expert, but he's know alot more than me and you.
@@nmsports01He along with most Palestinians are mindless Jew hating supporters of Hamas.
Nearly 89 percent of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets from the Gaza Strip at Israeli civilians, according to a new poll conducted by the Palestinian Center for Public Opinion
Bassam is a brain surgeon by trade…it sounds like you need his help to have your brain operated and fixed.
He just said historians and politicians don't offer any hope, so he is referring to comedians "
expert jew hater
Who else wants a “debate” between Bassem and Rabbi Schmoley??? 🖐️ I do!!!
I dont want shmukey on my screen
You love chaos 😂😂😂
Bassem against any educated speaker such as Murray would inevitably expose his lack of argumentative skills. Pure feelings this guy.
@@SuperEliasc So do you support Ham as ...
I’d like to see Bassam debate ANYONE with a brain. Instead he only goes on long format interviews where he gets to state his warped view of history and the current state of Israel without ever being questioned or challenged. 🙄
I wonder what could go wrong with giving more power to the people group who openly state they will eliminate the other people group as soon as they are capable.
It's called dignity and respect and it helps to cultivate positive outlooks.
Why wonder? If you look closely, you can already see one side eliminating the other group and killing them indiscriminately.
Trust me Israel is the only “country” in the world that can do that and not be held accountable. You don’t have to worry about Arabs mistreating Jewish people, if you look through history, while Europe was treating Jews like animals, we accepted Jewish people as our cousins.
@@mohammedkhresat3798Your right only if you're total ignorant of history.
The 1300 year old Muslim origins of hate
Islam's hate does not stop with Jews, but Jew-hatred is one of its malignancies.
Victor Sharpe
The origins of this evil anti-Jewish discrimination took clear shape in Islam as long ago as between the years 717 and 720, when Caliph Omar ordered that all non-Muslims who fell under the yoke of Islam - the dhimmis - should wear distinctive dress and be boycotted and sanctioned in every way. This led to hapless Jews - and Christians - by the twelfth century forced to wear yellow patches on their clothes...
Life for Jews under Islamic rule was a veritable vale of tears, as it was under much of Christendom. The odious forced incarceration of Jews in European ghettos was in fact an invention of the Muslim world.
The ghetto, or mellah in Arabic, was first created in a particular quarter of Cairo, Egypt, during the eleventh century, followed by the first walled-in mellah in Fez, Morocco.
After Mohammed destroyed the Jewish tribes of the Hedjaz (present day Saudi-Arabia) in 624-628, relentless and horrific persecution of Jews by Muslims broke out in every subsequent century.
This persecution took many lives and left the Jewish survivors facing boycotts and sanctions: fast forward to the present day Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) hatred. See! There is nothing new under the sun when it comes to hatred of the Jews.
Here then we have the 8th century Muslim origin of the current manifestation of anti-Jewish bigotry and discrimination we know today as BDS.
@@mohammedkhresat3798Oh the Taqiya continues to apologize for the Palestinian terrorists entity. But I shall indulge this tripe.
▪ 622-627: ethnic cleansing of Jews from Mecca and Medina, (Jewish boys were publicly inspected for pubic hair and executed if they had any)
▪ 624: after the victory of Badr, beginning of the elimination of the Jews
▪ 625: expulsion of the Jewish clan of Al Nadir
▪ 626: massacre of the Beni Khazradj Jews and division of families and loot
▪ 626? : expedition against the Jews beni Qoraizha, insulted by Mohammed: “O you, monkeys and pigs…”
▪ 626? : massacre of 700 Beni Qoraïzha Jews, bound for three days, then slaughtered above a ditch, with the young boys
▪ 626: murder of the Jew Kab, leader of the Beni Nadhir and satirist poet, and of his wife who had made fun of Mohammed
▪ 626: expedition against the Jews of Kaihbar
▪ 626: murder on the orders of Muhammad of the Jew Sallam abu Rafi
▪ 626: Mohammed had the palm trees of the Jewish oasis Beni Nadhir cut down
▪ 627: elimination of the Jewish Qurayza clan in Medina
▪ 627: massacre of the Jews of Medina; sharing of families and property
▪ 628? : attack on the Jews of Khaibar, and torture of prisoners
▪ 628? : taking of the Jewish oasis of Fadak as Mohammed’s personal property
▪ 628: submission of the Jews of Wadil Qora
▪ 628: Mohammed to the Jews beni Qainoqa: “if you do not embrace Islam, I declare war on
you”
▪ 629: first massacres in Alexandria, Egypt
▪ 622-634: extermination of the 14 Arab Jewish tribes
▪ 630: submission of the Jews and Christians of Makna, Eilat, Jerba
▪ 638: expulsion of the Jews from Jerusalem
▪ 640: expulsion of Jews from Hedjez
▪ 643: expulsion of the Jews from Khaibar by Omar
▪ 822-861: the Islamic empire adopts a law requiring Jews to wear yellow stars (a bit like
Nazi Germany), caliph al-Mutawakkil
▪ 940: beheading of the Jewish exilarch of Baghdad for having sullied the name of Mohammed
▪ 945: assassination by a crowd of fanatics of the last Jewish exilarch of Baghdad
▪ 948: closure of the Jewish theological school of Baghdad
▪ 1004: Jews and Christians must wear a black turban and sash in Egypt
▪ 1009: Jews and Christians in Egypt must wear a cross or bells in the baths
▪ 1009: destruction of the Holy Sepulcher of Jerusalem by the Fatimids
▪ 1010-1013: start of massacre of hundreds of Jews around Cordoba
▪ 1016: Jews are persecuted and driven out of Kairouan
▪ 1010: persecution of Christians, Jews and Sunnis by the Fatimid caliph Al Hakim
▪ 1032: 5 to 6,000 Jews killed in a riot in Fez and expulsion of survivors
▪ 1040: beheading of the Jewish theologian Gaon Chizkiya, head of a Talmudic school
▪ 1106: Ali Ibn Yousef Ibn Tashifin of Marrakech decrees the death penalty for any local Jew, including his Jewish doctor, and his military general.
▪ 1148: the Almohads of Morocco give Jews the choice of converting to Islam or being expelled
▪ 1057: capture and pillage of Kairouan by the Hilalian tribes; expulsion of Jews and certain Muslims
▪ 1066: Massacre of thousands of Jews in Granada in Muslim-occupied Spain
▪ 1073: start of persecution against Jews and Christians by the Turks in Jerusalem
▪ 1127: in Morocco, after the failure of the prophetic movement of the Jewish messiah Moshe Dhery, wave of persecutions and forced conversions
▪ 1142: start of persecution against the Jews by the Almohads; massacre in Tlemcen, Bougie, Oran
▪ 1145: the Jews of Tunis must choose between conversion and exile
▪ 1146: capture of Meknes by the Almohads; persecution of the Jews
▪ 1147: capture of Tlemcen by the Almohads; persecution of the Jews
▪ 1147: Almohad invasion of Spain: expulsion of Jews or forced conversions
▪ 1147: capture of Marrakech by the Almohads; persecution of the Jews
▪ 1147: start of Almohad persecutions against the Jews of North Africa
▪ 1148: start of the exodus of Maimonides fleeing the intolerance of the Almohads
▪ 1148: Almohadin of Morocco gives Jews the choice of converting to Islam or being expelled.
▪ 1152: advent of Abd el Moumin in Morocco; choice for Christians and Jews between conversion or death
▪ 1159: controversy between Maimonides and the rabbi of Fez on the attitude towards forcible converts
▪ 1160: capture of Ifriqiya by the Moroccans of Abd el Moumen; Jews and Christians must choose between death and conversion; Jews are converted by force and superficially.
▪ 1165-1178: Yemen: Jews throughout the country were given the choice (under the new constitution) to convert to Islam or die
▪ 1165: chief rabbi of the Maghreb burned alive. The Rambam fled to Egypt.
▪ 1165: flight of Maimonides to Egypt to escape the Almohads
▪ 1171: in Egypt, decree recalling obedience to ordinances concerning the submission of Jewish and Christian infidels under penalty of death
▪ 1184: the Almohads impose distinctive signs on Christians and Jews in Spain
▪ 1198: forced conversion of the Jews of Aden
"but look every time we give them land they kill us" 4:50
Small fact :
Israel never leave a land without fighting through the last 75 years even in egypt and lebanon
@@Isaac-bk4kwthe USA enforced it to do so , as egypt suggested to leave Russia and to become an ally to the west. Also this happens after the Egyptian army made some progress in 6th october . Israel never wanted peace
@@muhammedsalama900yet they did
@@MariusH242 yes, and the only way to do so is by enforcing it by using power and pressure from the west
@@muhammedsalama900 Zionists don't like logic brother
This guy is further proof there is no solution. Anyone wasting their time trying to find it is.... well wasting your time.
israel is the occupier. WTF do you mean there is no solution. Get those pols and germans and Romanians back to their own countries and return the land to the people of Palestine.
Mind Begs the Question:
- If a States policies are
- Starvation,Death Camps,Pogroms,Gassing/White Phosphorus,Ethnic Cleansing,etc
- Has the right to exist?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings You should look up the states policy before you assume to know what the states policies are. You are just regurgitating someone elses talking points, and I'm nit interested in that
Mind Begs the Question:
- Hitler demonized the Vulnerable
- To justify Evil Laws,Actions necessitate
- For Security reasons
- If a PM/Govt repeat same strategy
- Democratic or Nazi?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings human beings are animals. if you assume they are kind, and generous beings then you are a fool.
This conflict began before your grandparents were born and will continue beyond you grandchildrens death. Enjoy your misery in the meantime.
Why doesn’t Lex speak to Hamas? Free speech demands it, conversation leads to meaningful change.
Mind Begs the Question:
- If a Israel PM/Govt
- Publicly promoted funding Hamas
- To avoid 2 State Solution
- Condemns Hamas or Funds Hamas?
Why would he speak to a terrorist group?
Ah yes, lets ask terrorists and even consider their opinions 😂
@@ZaShiestyBecause the first step to peace ,is to stop demonizing your enemy.
Sinn Fein were censored on the BBC ,with the consequence that most Brits thought the IRA were killing people ,purely because of their religion.
If you keep calling HAMAS terrorists ,then you'll repeat the same "mistakes" that Britain made in the north of Ireland.
However, even the most rabid Royalist Rangers fan ,would baulk at killing 30,000 Irish people as revenge for an IRA attack.
@@ZaShiestyaccording to most. Countries around the world , they are a libration movement. You can't consider your opponent a terrorist then censor him .
Lex if u had the same conviction you say everyone else should the profit from your Palestine, Israel videos would be donated to relief organisations
An example of Israel peace and coexistence.
The Palestinians were forced to accept Oslo accords, the leaders who signed the treaty had a picture of them at the end of the ceremony, two of the leaders died naturally and the others Israel just got rid of them, guess how?
Minute 1:05 Mr Youssef said Israel has so much power and Palestine has no power. How about Iran supporting Hamas? Minute 2:00 Arafat walked away from Oslo Accords because there were lots of catches . Why can't Mr. Youssef tell us what those catches were?
And israel is supported by the US, who is militarily, vastly superior to iran.
Because it’s nonsense.
Primitive weapons vs the most sophisticated weapons from the US plus it’s their land not the Israeli my grand mother is older than Israel
You can’t be serious with that statement
Arafat was presented with "a take it or leave it deal".. Palestinians had to give up their claims to most of East Jerusalem and forfeit their Right of Return, and in return, Palestinians would "gain" a non-contiguous state on parts of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.
10:05 "The role of the Palestinians people is to OVER THROW Hamas AND GET a more moderate leadership... the role of the Israeli people is to VOTE OUT this right wing government AND ELECT a more moderate leader."
I love Lex to included his goal to fairness and love of all peoples, but even he has biases, which should be noted here and dwelled upon. Not only for his sake, but for all of ours.
Please note the capitalized verbs. What do these word choice imply and actually mean? Is he wrong? Is this difference real or imagined? Does this "feeling" put undo pressure on one group vs another or does it actually give a license to physically lash out given the circumstance of their "hostage" situation? One implies a natural consequence of the aforementioned verb if enough agree vs an outcome which may or not happen unless the aforementioned action is taken strategically, calculated, and no doubt with a gathered consensus of rebels.
No occupation, no resistance, it is a simple matter without a lot of talk
That brief moment of laughter gave me a lot of hope. Only one minute in.
Body language says a lot here.
I wanna give this guy a chance, but his first two points are quoting Obama for his foreign policy and defending Arafat…more of the same
Nice to know I'm not the only one thinking that.
Bassen's humor one the reality of the injustices happening in the world is really eye-opening.
There is only one solution - A single, secular State with freedom of religion for all.
That’s literally what Israel is. Anyone can worship what ever they want. Not so in other Muslim countries
No need, there are already 22 Arab countries.
Israel is close to that , not quite there but closer than any other country in the Middle East. The world wants to turn into Lebanon which is a disaster zone
@@gsmith6138 then tell Israel to accept the Palestinians as citizens and then they take all the land…
@@solvingpolitics3172half of Israeli Jews are ethnically arab… j not including the 20% or arab Palestinians
The salutation is to end the occupation
Where is the occupation?
Unfortunately he can’t/won’t answer the question because like many others he’s too interested in arguing over semantics in history.
Mind Begs the Question:
- If a States policies are
- Starvation,Death Camps,Pogroms,Gassing/White Phosphorus,Ethnic Cleansing,etc
- Has the right to exist?
Death camps? Where?
Gasing?
Starvation?
Who is doing this?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings I’m guessing you have copy pasted this unintelligible response multiple times?
Mind Begs the Question:
- Hitler demonized the Vulnerable
- To justify Evil Laws,Actions necessitate
- For Security reasons
- If a PM/Govt repeat same strategy
- Democratic or Nazi?
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Zuheir Mohsen, PLO executive committee member, as quoted in 1977: "The Palestinian people do not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."
Gigachad Arabs
And of course those Arab states have united haven’t they? Or are they still holding their breath for the PLO to win.
Just one man’s thoughts.
Why don’t you talk the extreme right in calling for a Greater Israel?
@@marknicholson2281 In the past six month, Israel was attacked by Gaza, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, The west bank and Jordan...
@@marknicholson2281 in the past six month Israel was attacked by Gaza, west bank, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Jordan...
@@marknicholson2281 In the past six month, Israel was attacked by Gaza, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, The west bank and Jordan.
It’s the same story Christians in Anatolia and Palestine. Smyrna Gaza the whole world watched!
Serious question I hope someone can give me a serious answer: why won’t Hamas surrender, disband, and send the hostages back? It’s clear this war is lost, but they are still holding out, at the cost of Palestinian lives. I understand it’s a resistance movement and they will resist until they can’t anymore, but there has to be a moment where they see that they are hurting their own people by continuing to “fight”. They took a risk with their aggressive strategy, and it failed. This particular attempt at resistance is at its end, it’s time to regroup and approach palestinian goals from another angle. Am I reading this situation wrong? In Israel’s words, they will continue until Hamas is gone. It sucks to surrender to such a tyrant, but this is the reality right now. They can end the war.
Not an expert just someone who reads the news from time to time but my understanding is that Hamas don’t think like reasonable people, they are extremists a bit like ISIS, so they will never give up, their mission is worth as many lives as the Palestinians can spare..also who in their right mind does something like oct 7 in their position, with the kind of government in power in Israel? In itself that is stupid, but there were not even any demands, no plan to follow up with, like wtf were they thinking..
It is important they don't surrender. People need to understand that there are no heroes...only lesser villains. Our children need to learn that there is no place for compromise and human lives especially brown coloured human lives don't matter. They don't teach this in school. It's important that they resist so history can be witness that might is always right.
If Hamas give up, nothing will change. Should Europeans still be colonising Africa, India, and the Americas? All the colonised countries fought for and won back their independence. Palestine has the same right.
@@Crazybaby2409then by your logic, the Jews have every right to take the land since they've been there thousands of years even before Palestinians? The truth is that after the land was divided in the early 1900s, the Palestinians kept trying to colonize Israel's land via offensive military attacks and kept losing more and more land in each attack.
@@tsyqaibThe Canaanites were there first. Early Israelites were a nomadic tribe from south of Egypt. You’re being really obtuse if you don’t get that the state of Israel was only created (as a colony) in 1948, forcing the native Palestinians into exile. Most of the Jews in Israel came from other countries such as in Europe.
When personal feelings get mixed with objective views, I distrust the person speaking
there is a difference between a baby murdered in its crib by a terrorist and a baby who is killed in a missile strike from miles away. Both are sad, but its unlikely and IDF soldier would murder a baby face to face. This man claims there is 7 million Palestinian diaspora around the world who are displaced by Israel, this is impossible, considering only 750;000 Arabs were displaced in 1948.
International law considers the children of displaced refugees to also be refugees. With no right to return to palestine. That's why
Never crossed your mind that 750000 refugees could get children and grandchildren which are by default refugees also?
@@mimicocto this is the great lie, the children yes, after that no. This is such a scam that millions of people who are third generation are claiming to be refugees and entitled to return to a place that is alien to them.
The idf has already killed kids on numerous occasions.
Pregnant women count as double points for them
Human rights for all or none and i don't need a plan i don't need a land I'm a planet man.
maybe ask Bassem where the egyptian jews are today..? Arab societies are so nice to minorities, yeah sure.
You should give up comedy here in the USA and go fight for Palestine.
The whole situation is sad. But to be so strong on either side right or wrong you are part of the problem
Palestinians seem to have a bigger claim to the land because both sides have ancestral claim, but Palestinians neve left while Israelis left and came back and thats when it the conflict started.
They didn’t just leave. They were expelled.
They were expelled, genocided, ethnicly cleansed by the Romans, turks, arabs muslims and many others. If so the establishment of the modern day Israel is the best example of decolonization but you guys probably just hate the jews 🤷🏻♂️
@@Wimblewomble2000 Doesn't matter the reason. Besides, they were not expelled by the Palestinians of 1947.
@dragonbeardable of course it matters. If we were talking about Muslims or palestinians having been kicked out you wouldn't say "doesn't matter they were expelled"
A story from the book of 1 Kings, where a prophet by the name of Elijah when he beheld 400 false prophets of the false object of worship called Baal said to them if you think you're God to be the answer then assemble yourselves and call me fire down from heaven; Elijah said to them likewise shall I do the same as the story goes the 400 false prophets of the false being made themselves a bunch of ruckus calling out to the lie they believed.
Elijah surely used scripture from the word of God the Old Testament or Old Covenant or Agreement and fire did fall from heaven.
The more you get right about God the more he shows up.
God is a spirit those that worship him must do so in spirit and in truth. John 4:24
Don't just have faith, have faith in God, and his word. There is surely a type of extreme unpleasantness already in the Earth, have you seen it, are you delivered from it?
Job 38:17 "Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death?"
Job 38:33 "33 Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?"
As a child, I would have dreams in be in many nightmares where underground tentacle monsters could sense my slightest movement and impel me,
wars, dreams of persecution, the grim Reaper, things would get wild. I remember calling on the Old Testament name of God Jehovah, and I remember things
did not end well for me when I was being assaulted by a witch. However, ever since I was a child the name of Jesus has never failed me, when I began to call on his name
Even recently, a spider demon with a human face around the size a 42" TV was crawling on my wall when I awoke from my sleep.
I spoke the name of Jesus quite a few times and I attained Mercy unto myself, for that because Jesus has the authority for this reason.
John 3:35 " He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him."
1 John 2:23 "Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also."
I believe that God cares for his creation and doesn't want to lose them, because I believed in Jesus and had the humility to honor his name many times throughout my life.
I attained mercy through the New Covenant, agreement, or Testament. Only parts of the old still apply. The old prepared place for the New.
I believe Love is many things, and is doing many things read 1 Corinthians 13:4-8 (KJV) and study the language of the time (Middle English), saying an agreement to do some things all the time, and some things so long as it is not provoked which is not easily accomplished. Look at the Greek interlinear and see what to it says. Love is kind while not provoked and is out to to preserve and protect you not always for your short-term satiation but your long-term health, wealth, and viability.
John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
John 1:14 "And the Word:λόγος(in ancient Greek) message, expression of God's ideas), was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."
For if I read James 1:5 (KJV), do not leave out James 1:6,7, and 8 (KJV),
and while we at it live by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
If there are 18000+ religions in the world I know to whom I say go to save me trouble, the name and the ideas that I will confess as Lord to be serving of and to call my friend.
Proverbs 4:19 “The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble.”
A concept of the word is the idea that is behind it or what should pop into your head by what the author is meaning. If you do not have the idea of the word correct you have a misconception and it changes the whole story.
Read the KJV, pray for wisdom, pray without ceasing: don't go a day without it.
Genesis 18:14 "14 Is any thing too hard for the Lord? At the time appointed I will return unto thee, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son."
El Shaddai, is one of God's names: meaning, the Almighty. The deductions you can make with your eyes are not as important to me as the decisions you can make with your heart.
I believe God set the stage before we got to the play. God putting bones in the ground isn't him being deceptive, he wants to know if we will be presumptuous.
There is a song by elevation worship called I trust in God.😅
Israel gave the full Sinai Peninsula to his home country Egypt after 10 years of occupation.
No one hears about "civilian" Palestinians, who live in Palestine, fighting HAMAS during the last months. Wonder why?
Curious that They have no "resistance" against HAMAS. Even France, who surrendered, had one against Germany.
There are no civilians fighting hamas.. lmao who told you that.
There are rival families, one of them tried to push Hamas away from the aid trucks and Hamas got rid of the head of that family.
@@beniluv3250 are you trying to imply hamas was blocking aid?
Gazawi have been protesting against hamas for years.
Just look at the "We want to live" movement
This guy lies nonstop for 20 minutes. I'm tired of exposing all the lies that are running on the net regarding the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians and there is nothing to do with taking sides in the conflict but simply telling the truth!
what were the lies
What were the lies?
Don’t push him guys ! He’s tried of exposing these lies
@@dfokg Just one example of a lie - in 2000, Israel was ready to return to lines 67 (he claims that Israel did not give up anything, which is absolutely not true). The "Palestinians" were not ready for this agreement and simply started an intifada in which suicide terrorists exploded in buses, restaurants, etc.
This gentleman, Mr Bassem will never tell you this because it brings out the "Palestinians" in a bad way and as terrorists
I am tired of hearing the rhetoric from both sides. This guy paints the Palestinians as innocence when the fact is both sides are dirty in this conflict.
The Israelis are 100 times more dirty. Dont be so naive. This is not a war its a genocide.
@@Wetalkfinance101 I think hiding behind innocent people is the definition of slime and perversion
So a thief comes into your house and you fight to save your stuff...suddenly you are dirty?
I remember hearing about an Israeli boy on oct 7th who had to what his parents and sister dismembered in front of him as they cut off his fingers. But man solitary confinement for children gotta be a rough form of torture.
I can't stand this guy. He's eloquent and disarming, but so biased.
"It's not true Palestinians walked away from multiple peace deals. The details show that there were so many catches it's a bad deal... there's so much imbalance of power between Israel and Palestine..."
As if that's an excuse? You (Palestinian leadership) have a weak hand and your opponent has a strong hand, and in a moment of weakness, your opponent is willing to offer a compromise (even if not exactly fair) rather than just whittle you to death... and you choose... death because the deal isn't exactly fair? Bro, you have no bargaining chip!
And now you complain that you're being whittled to death, like you wanted. Should have just taken the deal; realize that you don't get to decide whether it's a great deal, because you lost the war (that you started).
The main thrust of Bassem is he wants Palestinians to be treated according to ideal Western morality, when the Palestinians and Gulf States have never operated by such rules themselves. If the fledgling Israel had been wiped out, you'd hear no remorse from Palestine in 2024 I guarantee.
The Jewish settlers should never have invaded that land in the first place. You can’t just steal someone’s land ffs
100% I’d go on and debate this dude and talk to him about empires etc… they don’t understand history
I call foul on his logic, would they waived if they had more power?? Nooo!! They would
Not! Lies!!!
Bassem has a correct analysis of the power disparity of the two parties but can’t seem to make the next logical step. The Palestinians have very little power to negotiate a peaceful settlement and their fellow Arab neighbours have no interest in supporting them and the rest of the world will offer rhetoric but no material help. Therefore the Palestinians need to accept peace means accepting an unfair deal from their perspective. Look for as much as you can reasonably get but know Isreal will ultimately dictate the terms. They won the wars and they have played their hands better at almost every stage. Stop living in the darkness of your past and start looking for a brighter future.
I’d suggest you study empires. Palestinians back in the early 1900 were apart of many Islamic armies that kept trying to invade Palestine. they’re not innocent people you think. They’re very empire mindset driven. hence why 70% of Gaza supports Hamas and other Islamic terrorist organisations.
I think the question you have to ask is why is there this assumption that Israel has ‘to give up’ anything?
Because they literally stole everything by implementing brutal force since their inception.
The irony is that "land for peace" has resulted in more bloodshed. Bassem talks about the discrepancy of power as if its only israel vs palestinians. He forgets that the palestinian's side is backed up by 22 arab countries and ~ 1.5 billion people.
Lex totally out of his depth here he should have pushed back on Bassems BS
What kinda bs is Bassem telling him
@@TheMugenVideos he aint asnwering that without spitting some actual BS so hopefully he ll stay quiet
I'm for the third option, to bring back Crusade states ⚔️🗡️🛡️✝️
Muslims and Christians should unite against zionists
3:50 good point sir
what a villain laughter he has at 0:40
Antisemite 👆🏾
Also responding to children casualties. Most of those are probably child militants. Countries with such disproportionate old/young population, More young than old. Sadly tend to have children soldiers.
Same with the babies on the Oct 7... ridiculous....
Wtf is wrong with u
As a response to the clever comment saying “you failed to mention that they withdrew from Gaza” :
Ok I’ll give you the answer, Israel wasn’t really in Gaza, only 8,000 settlers was there and protecting them in the middle of a very dense area was too expensive for them.
And by the way, it didn’t happen out of any peace talk!
Who is misleading now?
Do you want more facts? They knew a coupe would would happen and that this will weaken the claim of a palestinian state with the 2 separate government, as it’s easier to make peace with one legitimate organization, but 2! It’s a dream came true for a staller !
You are the one who throws such comment with an evil intent to mislead the readers.
💯💯 exactly
These comments are called Haspara , read about haspara
Is there any arrangement or agreement that could possibly work just a little better for ALL people? Then, is there one more improvement that could work just a little better still?? Clue: Israel is here to stay. That is one constraint.
what would you do if your neighbors mandate and sole purpose of existence was eliminating you
Well there is consensus (UN and pretty much every individual state) calling the settlements illegal.
If Israel simply complies with international law then we have a great leap towards peace.
So no answer to your original question.
Why did israel remove themselves from Gaza?
Exactly, he starts off by saying Israel never gives up land unless they have to due to violence. But casually leaves out that Israel withdrew from Gaza. Thats the issue with Bassem, he speaks very intelligently but he consistently presents half truths while condemning other half truths. There is a word for that....
@@JJ-qc6lhbecause he is totally biased
@@JJ-qc6lh It's a tactic to blame enemy of their own flaws. Muslims in fact never givr up their lands
@@JJ-qc6lh Israel "withdrew" from land that doesn't belong to them, in order to use the space for an open-air concentration camp wherein they force those they view as racially inferior to live under an apartheid state? So NOBLE of them!
@@JJ-qc6lhYour claim that Israel withdrew from Gaza is half truth as well. Israel didn't concede any sort of real autonomy to Gaza; land borders, water, energy, flow of goods including food, movement of people and airspace have been controlled by Israel even after 2005, Israel didn't let an airport to be built but they let qatari suitcases pass through unbothered to Hamas. Israel's intention was to boost hamas to divide Palestine politically. Israel didn't "give back" Gaza out of generosity, solidarity or remorse, there was eventually the intention by Netanyahu to break the political union between gaza and the west bank, even if that meant propping up hamas
Bassem is by far the best at explaining this to anyone
The arguements had me taken away from the issue as a whole. Hopeless seeming for real lex
Wait, where's Lex's Yermulke?
He claims not to defend Hamas while defending Hamas lol
The entire time. Everything is Israels fault to these people, including bad weather.
@@15walkeen israel is the devil
@@15walkeen yep. At the end of the day, The Palestinians are their own worst enemies.
@@15walkeen is it not?
May be because it is the only state on the earth in 2024 that gives its nationality to the people based on reاligion which is disgusting
This guy spits lies like a machine gun
He's full of hate
Benjamin Satanyahu will forever be known as the Butcher of Gaza 😮
arab countries doesnt use sufferign bassem boy they trying to use diplomacy but iran and israel and usa work together wake up boy
This guy is just bs-ing
Nice counterpoint.
I see its quite hard to think for yourself when you're so brainwashed by western media
"I'm not defending Hamas"...defends them.
He said the israelis say "every time we give them land they kill us" it's true and that's why Palestine can go to hell.
He has never defended Hamas! Never in any of his interviews! But there are hundreds of goons who go on live TV every day to defend the terrorist colony of isreal! Free Palestine! Free the Jews from the terrorism that is called Zionism!
Defends Israel.... 😢
Gross.
How can you give up land peacefully if the first thing that happens when you arrive in 1945 is be attacked by 6 Islamic armies. Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. First genocide was with Germany trying to wipe them out and second was 6 Islamic armies trying to wipe them out. So forgive the Jews for trying to create 5 two state solutions and all 5 be rejected
There's no hope. Zero.
Israel has offered numerous time to give up land taken during previous wars. It was always rejected by the Arabs. His premise regarding the Obama quote, is wrong (like Obama was on most foreign policy). It is not about power imbalance. Hamas refuses to renounce its stated goal of the destruction of the Israel. Once progress is made there, then real peace can be achieved. As far as territory is concerned, all lands conquered in conflict (that they did not start) are Israel's until they chose to do something else with them.
Well what about the West Bank? There’s no Hamas there and the Palestinians there are still being bombed by IDF and terrorized and having their properties seized by militias.
Israel offered to give up the lands? Numerous times? Really? They didn't even gave up the lands they were obliged to by numerous UN declarations. Could you please enlighten us about those events.
@@mimicocto Camp David Accords. Oslo Accords. Gaza.
@@williammuseler5542 Camp David is peace treaty between Israel and Egypt where Egypt got Sinai back. Nothing really to do with Palestinians. Oslo Accords failed the same moment when they were signed. They were made as there were made between two equal sides which was not the case.
Have you even read those documents or you have just heard about of them. If you haven't read them, you are more than welcome to look for them on line. They are easely accessible.
No ceasefire 🇮🇱
Lex, pl get Yanis Varoufakis on your show…he is one of the best minds around
Bassem Youssef is really doing the rounds across all the Western Podcasters since his "human hostages" dark humour comment on Piers Morgan after October 7 last year.
so? Says more about the hosts that ask a comedian to come and speak on behalf of millions of people who have little to no representation.
@@harleyx7332 What's your point? I was just making an observation, I didn't pass any judgment
This man speaks as if everyone alive should support him … no sir!
No you don't have to...but listen with an open mind,so you can become more knowledgeablemand informed.
Maybe Bassem Youssef could have a sit-down with both leaders and engage in peace talks.
You assume that these guys don't know how to get to peace. My friend, when one side has all the power, there is no incentive to compromise. Mix that with a sense of superiority and extreme self righteousness and it becomes hopeless.
when talking about a solution he always deflects to blame Israel for everything... and highlights everything wrong (something he is correct something's he is 100% wrong) from Israel.. and makes a lot of assumptions with zero evidence...
Lex lost me a long time ago with his childlike wonder questions such as "what is the meaning of life?" Whatever the purpose of life (which would be a better question), it sure as shit isn't having bad faith actors like this guy who refuses to admit the underlying problem with this conflict is the death cults/terrorist organizations like Hamas that make Palestinians' lives a living hell to begin with. How and why people like Bassem "reason" the way they do is an unfortunate byproduct of life itself, but it would be a better question to ask, which Lex won't be doing since it won't make him as likeable.
The pilot of 2 states was Gaza. You all fucked it up. Enough chances.
What country are you from?
Too hard a question to answer?
@@colloquialsoliloquy6391 I answered you twice, did you delete them so you could gaslight me?
@@camelprotector Yes ,I have that power.
@@colloquialsoliloquy6391 enough worker bees make up the hive. If you play the role of useful idiot, you take responsibility.
You can see the power imbalance in this video.. the host is simply brushing aside the death and torture of children!!!
i thought you were talking about hamas killing jews for a moment.
They were given Jordan
This notion that the Israeli public, as a majority, does not view Palestinians as inhuman, is just false. People can pretend it’s just “this radical government” that has literally called Palestinians animals. It’s also the Israeli public, a majority of them does not even believe there is such thing as a Palestinian. It’s uncomfortable, it’s awful and people are so willing to shield this unfortunate fact, the Israeli public, is extremely racist, collectively, towards Palestinians. Only 1% said netenyahu had gone too far and the vast majority said either, he had it about right or has not gone far enough.
HOW WOULD YOU GO FURTHER? !?! GAZA IS GONE! ITS GONE!
Awesome Bassem!! Keep fighting for Truth and Justice!!!!!!🕊
This guy lies through his teeth
For example?
@@Letsplay222I have a feeling you will not get a response
@@Letsplay222'random ' and unbiased person defending a total stranger and vouching for him as someone who doesn't lie, in YT comments
Mhmmm. Interesting.
@@ytc3182 I actually didn't vouch for him. I simply asked for an example of "lying through his teeth". I watched the whole video and didn't hear any lies. Perhaps since you decided to chime in, and are totally not a member of the same farm as the OP, you could provide an unbiased example?
no thats not why. peaceful resistance and acceptance of israel has never been chosen. we must teach peace.
By bombing it into the palestinians and taking everything from them? It's like telling jews during ww2 that their problem is that they are taught to hate the nazis
In the age of post-colonialism we have a pretty comprehensive library of statements from disenfranchised minorities around the world. The hatred of a colonized population lives on for generations. Accepting Israel is accepting the loss of your national identity, cultural heritage and to practically leave your grandparents and great grandparents land behind. Its a skill to be able to relate here, but if you try to consider how incentivized you'd feel if your home country was colonialized by a foreign and power hungry population. If you can't relate to why minorities resists against tyranni, please don't preach peace. The commitment to peace is always, if we choose to stay intellectually consistent with history, the colonizers responsibility.
@@FunnyVidsIllustrated its a skill jews know well. also if peace was chosen then who knows if they can live together. but we all know the logical response to terrorism. mlk jr and gandhi showed us in a democracy you can win with peaceful resistance.
@@michaelmoskowitz3212 The characters you describe garnered enough attention to the cause to apply pressure, but without willingness from the oppressor, those names would never be remembered.
..so Lex asked a question and after 20 min of refusing to answer and sending the usual antisemitic propaganda, and complaining about Palestinian rights, he finally states clearly that he doesn't think Israelis have a right to live safely in their country, and defers to "why can't they feel safe.. elsewhere..", thx, Bassem..