adding rear remotes and understanding tractor hydraulics

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024

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  • @rupert5390
    @rupert5390 4 года назад +26

    Man you have no idea what a service to mechanical geeks you are providing - I have been trying to understand hydraulics for a year - this is by a hundred miles the very best video - I thank you and I salute you you are a fantastic teacher and should do it for a living. love your channel.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  4 года назад +5

      I'm always thrilled and smiling from ear to ear when I hear from folks that these videos have served to help my brothers and sisters better understand in a down to earth way with no fancy verbal gymnastics to cloud things up. I like to give every tutorial a big old K.I.S.S " KEEP IT STUPID SIMPLE! " thanks a million for the kind words! peace love and respect Dave in Virginia!

    • @startingfromscratch7469
      @startingfromscratch7469 3 года назад +2

      Totally agree - I learned more in 18 mins here than months of internet reading - thanks heaps

  • @2010mannw
    @2010mannw Год назад +5

    I have been reading and watching videos for about three solid days to try and figure out exactly how to plum in an electric over hydraulic third function valve. I finally grasp just how the power beyond function works. But I had to do a ton of research to understand it. Your video made it super simple and I wish I had found it sooner. This is a great resource for anyone who is not well-versed in all things hydraulic.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  Год назад +1

      thank you I hope this video gets shared so others can benefit from it. there are several very informative videos on this channel pertaining to tractor implement set up and use. I'm sure you will find them helpful as well.

  • @MrRonluker
    @MrRonluker 5 месяцев назад +1

    I love how easy you make it to understand. This video confirmed my understanding of the ins and outs of a hydraulic system without any doubts. It's great that you didn't complicate things by bringing the spool valves into the lesson, yet touched on it perfectly.

  • @rupert5390
    @rupert5390 3 года назад +2

    Just did a quick refresher - still best video on hydraulics on utube thanks again 12 months later.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      thanks much appreciate the kind words!

  • @TimNisbet-t2x
    @TimNisbet-t2x 12 дней назад +1

    Excellent! Always a good idea to review the basics. Well done Dave.

  • @bayareasparky9180
    @bayareasparky9180 6 лет назад +1

    Today I'm gonna try to install the top and tilt I got from the dealer. It did not come with instructions though the service manager said that he would be available to phone consult with during the installation. This video is hugely helpful. Explaining that the hydraulics are in series clarifies the circuit, especially for me as an electrician. Thanks as always Dave!

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  6 лет назад

      Bay Area Sparky so glad this helped very excited to hear you are getting a top and tilt. You will love it!

    • @bayareasparky9180
      @bayareasparky9180 6 лет назад

      Hi Dave. I was making good time on the installation but the kit I got from the dealer was missing the bracket which holds the linkage and levers atop the tank and below the control console plate. So I sewed things up and used the box blade the old-fashioned way, climbing down to make hand adjustments on the fly. I sometimes wonder how they tolerated hopping up and down from the tractor until I remember that they used to have to hook up a mule/horse/ox and that a tractor, even with hand adjustments was probably pretty damn convenient!

  • @williambrown238
    @williambrown238 4 года назад +2

    Thank you. You answered several questions on how to add spool valve controled rear remotes on and old tractor

  • @JakeElliott-l3v
    @JakeElliott-l3v 9 месяцев назад +1

    I think this is the best instructional video I've seen, maybe ever! Thank you.

  • @Bogboy-kn6gy
    @Bogboy-kn6gy 3 года назад +3

    Single handedly the best explanation of hydraulics I've seen. Thank you sir.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад +1

      always a pleasure to help and share information.

  • @coder010
    @coder010 4 года назад +2

    Pictures say a 1000 words. Thanks for describing how it works. I've learned a lot from your videos and enjoy them. Thx!

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  4 года назад

      always a pleasure to help my brothers and sisters out there in youtube land! peace love and respect to you and your family. Dave in Virginia

  • @Heritage_Hill_Farm
    @Heritage_Hill_Farm 2 года назад +1

    Great videos, I’m getting ready to try to install one on my tractor. I’ll probably be coming back several times to get info from yours. Good to see a fellow Virginian on here.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  2 года назад

      heck yeah Virginia is for lovers! good to have you here! if I can help in any way just let me know.

  • @AikinsGlen
    @AikinsGlen 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for this. I had a lightbulb moment piping up a front loader as soon as you said everything is connected in series. Relocated 2 pipes and had it working straight away after your explanation. 👍👍👍

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  2 года назад

      AWESOME! I love when these videos are found, and they actually help folks. there are a lot of information packed videos on the channel. when you need it then its nice to have it there available. really appreciate your kind words and time stopping by and writing to me.

  • @KenFeather-r9b
    @KenFeather-r9b Год назад +1

    Your video helped us get through a problem we had with our Kubota hydraulic system. Thanks for your knowledge.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  Год назад

      super glad to hear when these videos help. that is what its all about.

  • @obstractorak3573
    @obstractorak3573 2 года назад +1

    Probably saved me hours and hours of troubleshooting. Fixing up an old, somewhat neglected Kubota L235. I discovered an aftermarket aluminum hydraulic adaptor block, but I don't have a front end loader. Also the 3 point lift isn't working yet. I've absorbed all this info and I'm certain it's going to come in handy. Thanks!

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  2 года назад

      I have no doubt in my mind this information will speed things up for you.

  • @jessesummers7026
    @jessesummers7026 7 месяцев назад +1

    i dont have a bucket and was struggling to understand how to do the rear remotes this video gives me the information i need thanks

  • @ohyeahthatsright3155
    @ohyeahthatsright3155 Год назад +2

    Thank you for taking the time to help all of us.

  • @joewatson5801
    @joewatson5801 3 года назад +1

    I'm getting ready to install rear remotes on my L4400. This was a great help. Very clear and well explained. Thanks

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      thank you for stopping by if I can help in any way just let me know. I will do my best.

  • @stevelilley6859
    @stevelilley6859 2 года назад +1

    Once again a KISS approach wins the day. Great video on a topic that is too often misunderstood or not fully understood can now be usefully understood. I would say a great video and a job well done. Thank you sir.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  2 года назад

      awesome brings me a lot of joy knowing some of my videos do help a few folks along their journey.

  • @Riverhorse916
    @Riverhorse916 4 года назад +4

    Excellent explanation, Dave. Thank you for covering those of us that are “Slow but steady!”

  • @mcloud0403
    @mcloud0403 6 лет назад +9

    That was exactly what I needed, Dave. Thank you. I’m going to add top ‘n tilt, and I was feeling pretty much lost. Great job.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  6 лет назад +2

      awesome! I added top and tilt spool valves on mine. you can see that series on my channel as well. since I uploaded the series many people have done theirs the same way. so far mine is still holding up and functioning great. glad to see folks getting some value from these videos. peace love and respect Dave in Virginia!

  • @jphickory522
    @jphickory522 6 лет назад +8

    Thank you for making this video- I’m a slow learner so I need to watch it several times

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  6 лет назад +5

      watch it all you want to. after seeing this and understanding it my series on adding rear remotes will be easier to follow. glad to be able to help. I have a learning disability myself so I try and make videos easier for even me to understand. thanks for the kind words and for watching. peace love and respect

  • @britile1
    @britile1 4 года назад +1

    Thanks a lot!!! This video is spot on. I was able to install a 2 spool 4 way control for an add on rear flail mower on my Kubota tractor. Now I can cut ditches and around ponds. Thanks Dave.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  4 года назад

      excellent always perks me up to hear these video help folks. thanks for sharing that with me. peace love and respect. Dave in Virginia

  • @danielrapoza8468
    @danielrapoza8468 2 года назад +1

    Dave, Thank you. I appreciate your videos !!!
    I was thinking that to add a rear remote I would need to Tee off from the Power Beyond and tank circuit to make it happen. I have both a loader and backhoe setup.
    I now understand that it all needs to be in Series to make it all work. Thanks...

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  2 года назад

      yes sir you are correct in series is how it works. appreciate your kind words and glad the video has helped speed up that learning curve.

  • @shawnbennett8006
    @shawnbennett8006 3 года назад +1

    Great video! Thank you for putting this together it is extremely helpful. I'm so grateful that God gave us folks like you.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      I'm so glad you enjoyed it. if you need further assistance I will try my best to help.

  • @ronwingfield1826
    @ronwingfield1826 6 лет назад +1

    Dave, I really appreciate your intelligent, smart videos. Also your use of the English language is very good!

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  6 лет назад

      thank you Ron, I have my moments. Sometimes I fail miserably and butcher things up really good. ha ha

  • @CliffsideStables
    @CliffsideStables 6 лет назад +3

    Good to see another video produced! Always enjoy and learn from your teaching. Praying your strength is holding up.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  6 лет назад +1

      I'm trying to push forward. been a crazy winter 70 degrees one day snowing the next. hard to get outside and do anything.

  • @diamondcutter8535
    @diamondcutter8535 2 года назад +1

    WOW!! Amazing, thank you! You removed all the confusion.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  2 года назад

      glad to hear that thanks for stopping by

    • @diamondcutter8535
      @diamondcutter8535 2 года назад +1

      @@daveknowshow Well almost, I'm confused now! I must have done something wrong. I added a spool valve and remotes to my Kubota L3800 and now to 3 point hitch does not function. Would you mind helping? Both remotes work for my stump grinder. Can I PM some pictures?

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  2 года назад

      @@diamondcutter8535 yes email me at daveknowshow@aol.com

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  2 года назад

      @@diamondcutter8535 also just to let you know. Id say you have the tank port and the power beyond port likely backwards. this means your power beyond is dumping straight back to tank and your back to tank is dumping into the power beyond port. its not gonna hurt it but as you can see it makes the three point no longer operate.

  • @bradsmith1046
    @bradsmith1046 3 года назад +1

    Well done Dave. Very helpful for us Newbies Now I can move on to better understand my mini excavator Hydraulic circuits.. Many thnaks for taking the time to pass on your knowledge to the rest of us!

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      Glad to help, it always brings me a lot of joy hearing from folks that these videos help in some way. I do appreciate you taking your time to leave such kind words.

  • @literider246
    @literider246 4 года назад +1

    Well done - I'm a complete novice, and this was crystal clear. Thanks.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  4 года назад

      thanks for the kind words and I appreciate you stopping by my channel to watch a few videos.

  • @joetterolison1286
    @joetterolison1286 4 года назад +3

    Thanks for Your well presented explanation on hydraulic Feed & Return to tank lines as being in series
    Overlaying the 3 basic circuits was a Great Help by using the KISS method ( Keep It Simple Stupid )
    My training has been as a US NAVAL Electronics tech & once You said the Hydraulic Flow is in series that made it much easier for Me to understand Fluid Flow theory & usage
    Spool valve & relief valve terms now makes sense
    It is funny on how I can relate Hydraulics assemblies too Electronic components
    I bought a Kubota L-2501 a couple years ago and a week later a new Backhoe for it
    The only 2 things I have accomplished so far is installed the Sub Frame for it & Hydraulic lines from the FEL controller to the rear mounting plate the back down to the Hydraulic block as a complete path
    Backhoe is still on its shipping pallet
    I don't have a Grapple or other hydraulic implements for the 3 point at the rear, yet, but I have been looking at adding Hydraulic fittings
    Question???
    Since the system is a Series path is it possible to use the connection points I now have at the rear for the detachable Backhoe to feed a Spool controller or 2 inline from that path when the Backhoe is not connected?
    Thank You Again
    Ken in Florida

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  4 года назад

      Hey Ken thank you for the kind words. they are much appreciated. yes you could easily connect a spool valve with quick connects that simply plug in to where the backhoe unplugs. or any place on that circuit. some spool valves have a back to tank port and may require running that extra line. I do think as long as you are using an open center spool valve you could easily omit the back to tank port line. just allow the fluid to flow the return into the power beyond line down stream. in my series "adding rear remotes/ spool valve" I installed my valve by simply unscrewing one line at the rear from the fitting and plumbing it into the spool valve. then came out the spool valve and plumbed into the quick connect I previously disconnected from. now the spool valve is connected and when the hoe is off the two hoses plug into each other completing the circuit. I used 1 male one female at the rear so they can plug into each other. this bypasses the hoe and completes the circuit. hope that helps.

  • @GPOutdoors
    @GPOutdoors 4 года назад +1

    Thanks Dave! This was super helpful for me. I didn't understand exactly how the system worked. Have a good weekend!

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  4 года назад +1

      took me some digging to figure it out myself. pretty simple once you get a grasp on it. like that new LX very nice!

    • @GPOutdoors
      @GPOutdoors 4 года назад +1

      Thanks Dave!

  • @dirtyford633
    @dirtyford633 6 лет назад +1

    This is great, I wasn't sure if my backhoe output would be tank or back into the PB line. I'll double check the valves on the unit, but I think it'll just splice inline with the PB circuit as you show. Thanks again, I was planning on doing this today or tomorrow, great timing!

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  6 лет назад

      man that is so great to hear! I'm thrilled this video and my other many videos have helped so many people. its comments like this that make it all worth while! please feel free to share my videos on your social media outlets. thanks for commenting and I hope you will subscribe if have not already.

  • @KrazyKajun602
    @KrazyKajun602 2 года назад +1

    Great video. I have a question. I currently don't have rear remotes. I want to add a spool valve with 2 levers and 4 connections but not sure what type of lever valve I will need. The function will be to turn on and turn off a external hydraulic motor. The motor is on a 3pt small potato digger that drives a potato chain. It will need to stay on when I engaged the valve lever and turn off when I disengage the valve lever. I know there is detent, not detent, etc....

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  2 года назад

      a detent style valve may work although during a bumpy ride the valve may spring back from the jolting and that would shut the motor off. I would try contacting Brian Brooks over at brooks ag parts and see if he can help you select a valve. you will need to know the flow rate of your hydraulic system which is listed in your owners manual under specifications try this number for Brian tell him I sent you there from youtube. 513 715 0532 if he cant nail down a valve for you try surplus center hydraulics get the number online. if that dont render any good results for you let me know and I will try to help you figure out which valve I would use if I was doing it myself on my machine. hope this helps. Dave

  • @TK-zw8xe
    @TK-zw8xe 3 года назад +1

    Awesome, just what I needed to know to add a Land Pride 3rd function kit with having existing Loader and Backhoe. Land Pride instruction say contact dealer if you have a Backhoe! I will install in series with the the PB loop.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      Glad it helped! you are on the right track for success! if I can be of further help just let me know.

  • @jeffstrains4014
    @jeffstrains4014 4 года назад +1

    This is something that has been on the back burner for a while, Have a Kubota 8950 its loader is running on the 4 ports on the back to my knowledge this was common in the older days of tractors. Need to check with dealer and see what kind of kits they have for this tractor. Would be nice to get the loader running on a joystick freeing the back up. Looking at getting a flexwing cutter disconnecting those hoses is a pain. For hay work normally just pop the two out that run the front no pressure easy to get back in. Have also been looking at the hydraulic multiplier using 2 of those. Would be cheaper I am sure

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  4 года назад +1

      there should be a way to install a power beyond manifold block to plumb out of.

    • @jeffstrains4014
      @jeffstrains4014 4 года назад +1

      @@daveknowshow I would think so I have seen pictures of the model above it and below it that appeared to have loader working from PB

  • @Bob-vb8lc
    @Bob-vb8lc 3 года назад +1

    Very good explanation and presentation Sir. Thank you very much for this video

  • @FromSteelToWood
    @FromSteelToWood 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks Dave! We all enjoy seeing another video from you!

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  6 лет назад

      thanks Joe, I hope I can make more if the weather ever breaks. one day its 70 here the next day its snowing to beat the band! crazy weather! enjoy looking at your videos as well brother. hope you are doing well.

    • @FromSteelToWood
      @FromSteelToWood 6 лет назад +1

      Many thanks Dave! We still have very high snow banks here. So to say, warm weather is not there yet! Cheers!

  • @sethlubin
    @sethlubin 6 лет назад +1

    Great diagram! The only thing that I would suggest changing is how you draw the "relief valves" and "back to tank" lines. From your description, it seems as if the the relief valve should be drawn in line with the "back to tank" line rather than off by itself. Thanks.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  6 лет назад

      it actually is screwed in the side of the manifold block on this specific machine exactly where shown. this is where you adjust the shim pack to increase and decrease relief pressure. thanks for the comment.

  • @tristanroehrbein4944
    @tristanroehrbein4944 Год назад +1

    If I wanted to hook up a log splitter but did not have the hook ups on the rear as I originally thought I did, would the simple method be to hook up as if it is a back home? Then what would I need to do if the splitter was not attached?

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  Год назад +1

      yes run two lines back there for the splitter. one with a male connector one with a female connector. when the splitter is not on simply plug one hose into the other to complete the loop. hope that makes sense. on another note my advice is stay away from tractor mounted / powered log splitters. the flow rate is to low and cycle times will be painfully slow. buy a stand alone splitter and tow it behind the tractor. this way you can use the tractor to load wood on the splitter. those large logs are heavy. I tow into the woods disconnect the splitter and use the grapple to raise and lower rounds onto the splitter. once they are split small enough I can manage them by hand. the stand alone splitter saves wear on the tractor as well. maintenance on the tractor is far more expensive than that of a splitter. I picked up a 27 ton troybilt splitter for 700 bucks. it was brand new and had been returned to lowes. they made a mistake putting one hose on wrong. I moved the hose around and its been great!

    • @tristanroehrbein4944
      @tristanroehrbein4944 Год назад +1

      @@daveknowshow makes perfect sense and is what I was thinking of doing. Just wanted additional verification. Greatly appreciate it!

  • @garryharris9098
    @garryharris9098 3 года назад +2

    Dave I work with Hydraulics a lot, i just today bought a small backhoe that connects to the 3 point. However there are no hydraulic lined to the rear. I just need to have a way to connect hoses to the manifold that is there on my L2900 Kubota. Can I take the two plugs out of the bottom of the block where the front loader connects or just get hydraulic Tee s and put them in the Power beyond as you show yours. or do I need to buy the expensive kit they are selling.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      the only port you can "T" into is the back to tank port. the others must be in series. power out to power in. at the manifold locate the power out line disconnect it and add in your back hoe lines. one in one out. you can also add the backhoe line after the front end loader valve. just locate the power beyond port on the loader valve. disconnect that line now you have a power out and a power in. need to know which is power out? with those lines disconnected start the tractor briefly. the line that shoots fluid out is the power out line. hope that helps. I'm here if you need further help.

    • @garryharris9098
      @garryharris9098 3 года назад +1

      @@daveknowshow okay thanks, I was looking at the one you have in your picture. coming off the power beyond to the hoe then putting a Tee in the return line. but what do you do when there's no backhoe on the tractor? there will then be a dead head Power beyond line. or should you keep a short hose with quick connects to install in the ends of the hoses while not in use. I will try to get some pictures of my manifold later this evening after work. it has no block like that you show.

    • @garryharris9098
      @garryharris9098 3 года назад

      well i took pictures of what I have but I aint really sure how to post them. but it has 3 hoses coming out of it 2 right beside each other horizontally facing to the right side and one f below facing the front of the tractor. they all go to the front loader. the back side of the manifold has 3 solid lines coming to it one from the engine compartment, one to the transmission and one heads to the back as far as I could see under the seat area

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      @@garryharris9098 yes the lines at the rear plug into each other when the hoe is not installed

  • @bradgray6365
    @bradgray6365 2 года назад +1

    Hi Dave, awsome videos, I have a question for you , I got a backhoe and I am wondering if I can plug into my rear remotes and bungy the joystick to feed hoe valve?

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  2 года назад

      I guess you could but the valve will likely create additional heat on the fluid. its easier to just tap into the circuit at the valve or manifold , when the hoe is off use a male female connection and just feed the circuit back into itself to complete. I can help explain further if you need help.

  • @glennadkins7999
    @glennadkins7999 4 месяца назад +1

    Great video I have a question if the backhoe is off the tractor Do I need to make a jumper hose to connect the in and outlet to keep the fluid circulating

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  4 месяца назад

      @@glennadkins7999 yes!!!that is critical!!! Typically they use a male and female connection this keeps the direction of fluid the same and allows one to plug into the other. The female can be stationary and the male on. A hose long enough to loop back and plug into the other.

  • @marilynallen644
    @marilynallen644 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the info that is a very busy drawing but it helps a lot

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  2 года назад

      lol it fits my Busy mind. I'm an over thinker amongst other things. ha ha

  • @chuckm482
    @chuckm482 4 года назад +1

    Perfect! Thank you! Using this video, I'll be able to understand how to install top and tilt for my box blade.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  4 года назад

      yes in deed and you will love having top and tilt hydraulics!

  • @aaroncarlson3686
    @aaroncarlson3686 2 года назад +1

    Hi Dave!
    Thanks for the video. It really helps younger dudes like me learn things. ;)
    Question for you: I have a tractor implement with two remote circuits. How to reliefs in the spool valve reliefs work if -- let's say -- something hits my implement and FORCES my dual acting cylinder to move?
    Will the spool valve relieve one side back to tank and draw fluid in for the other side? My tractor doesn't have float or continuous flow (Two positions and neutral). Thanks again, Dave.
    Aaron

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  2 года назад +1

      not likely if it has no float position. typically, the relief in a standard spool valve is 3000psi which is higher than the standard setting on most tractors until you get into the super large machines. this 3000psi is mainly in play when you dead head the valve and the cylinder is at the end of its stroke. if this is a 3 point implement the three point will likely raise since it is gravity down. if this is tow behind batwing mower that may be a good question for Tim Marks over at tractor time with Tim. he uses a lot of batwing mowers and can explain how the hydraulics need to be set up. hope this helps. be sure and let Tim know I sent you there with this specific question so he wont send you back here to ask me. lol hope between the community we can get you an answer quickly.

  • @radarme
    @radarme 3 года назад +1

    Great video. Very helpful. Thanks for making this!

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      always glad to hear the videos helped. thanks for the kind words.

  • @dwightcoggin7031
    @dwightcoggin7031 4 года назад +2

    Excellent video. I want to be able to remove my Backhoe attachment and put the cutter back on. I have run a hose to a quick coupling from the PB on the loader joy stick. Then I have a hose hooked to the manifold PB running to the back for the return from the back hoe. To remove the backhoe and operate the 3 point hitch can I take a jumper hose and complete the PB circuit by plugging the jumper into the two female quick connect for the backhoe? I have a MX5100 Kubota. Thank you.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  4 года назад

      yes that should work perfect.

    • @dwightcoggin7031
      @dwightcoggin7031 4 года назад

      @@daveknowshow Thx a bunch for the info. Love your video's.

    • @dwightcoggin7031
      @dwightcoggin7031 4 года назад +1

      Another quick questions. I see a picture with a Tee coming off the manifold. What is that for?

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  4 года назад

      @@dwightcoggin7031 that "T" connection is where I dumped my double spool valve for the rear remotes back to tank. since that spool valve did have a back to tank port as well as a power beyond port. you can see that in my video series where I installed the rear remotes for the hydraulic top link. on my backhoe connection it has one male and one female connector so when the hoe is off I just plug one into the other making a loop. you can do the same with a short piece of hose just make sure it is long enough but not so long that it gets hung on the three point as it goes up and down that Mx5100 is a beast of a tractor. I guess yours is a shuttle shift? most are. I use to barrow one from my neighbor and his was a shuttle shift. very stout tractor, plenty of power to the ground for pushing and pulling.

    • @dwightcoggin7031
      @dwightcoggin7031 4 года назад +1

      @@daveknowshow Thx for the clarification. My Kmart school of tractor hydraulics is limited. You've helped tremendously. I enjoy your videos.

  • @chrisrafuse8315
    @chrisrafuse8315 2 года назад +1

    Daver, excellent video and explanation of how hydraulics work. But I'm stumped and in need of guidance. I have a Ford 800 and considering adding single spool valve kit to divert live hydraulics for a log splitter. How do I run a hose for low pressure/return to the tank?

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  2 года назад

      you can simply have the low pressure return through the power beyond flow or dump it into the tank fill port although sometimes on some machines that option bypasses the filter which is not a good idea. so look into it further. typically power beyond return pressure is low pressure in fact its all low pressure until its being used the pressure build in the cylinder that is consuming it. the rest is simply low flow through on these open center hydraulic systems.

  • @chrissd08
    @chrissd08 3 месяца назад +1

    Great video Dave!

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  2 месяца назад

      @@chrissd08 hope it helps. I’m here if you need me

  • @cowbdave99
    @cowbdave99 4 года назад +2

    Have a L3010 changed both hydraulic filters . My loader is slow going up. 3 point jumps right up. If throttle the three-point hitch while engaging up on my loader the loader speeds up. 3point Gaston of power . Fluid level good. The loader is just slow going up. Think it's a early 2000 year.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  4 года назад

      that dont sound good. check the owners manual and make sure that model does not contain a screen that needs to be cleaned. most of the models with screens are smaller kubota tractors like the bx series. the loader should over ride the three point. does the bucket dump and tilt back fast? does it only go slow up but fast coming down? if so the problem is likely in the loader control valve. I would suggest taking the control valve off and carefully disassemble it for cleaning. may as well buy the rebuild kit and replace all O-rings. also you could have a quick connect that on the loader that is not fully seated.

    • @garryharris9098
      @garryharris9098 3 года назад

      check your cylinders and bypass valve. usually its a cylinder passing fluid

  • @gaewing
    @gaewing 3 года назад +1

    Dave , great presentation. I have a 2004 Kubota B2910. It does not have power beyond. You have any idea if I can add power beyond?
    I want to add controls on my box scraper like you did.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      it should have it. I can down load the manual and maybe find it for you. my email is Daveknowshow@aol.com

  • @thingsbeensaidanddone.2378
    @thingsbeensaidanddone.2378 2 года назад +1

    Best video ever! Thanks! One question why does the 3 point lift does not have a relief valve? Also the back hoe does not seem to have a relief valve. I am new at this. Gr Reza

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  2 года назад

      actually the three point does use the main relife valve as its relief protection. same with the backhoe as well. additionally the loader control valve also has a relief that is set higher than factory spec and will kick in should the main system relief fail and the pressure exceeds the factory setting of the loader valve which is typically 3000 psi

    • @thingsbeensaidanddone.2378
      @thingsbeensaidanddone.2378 2 года назад +1

      @@daveknowshow, thank you for your time and good explanation. Hope to see you in person one day in Belgium. I hope I can show you my kubota mk5000. Gr Reza

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  2 года назад

      @@thingsbeensaidanddone.2378 that would be awesome!

  • @darrylandglendafournier9437
    @darrylandglendafournier9437 4 года назад +1

    Hey Dave
    Great video. Have mx4800..Is it economical to buy a spool valve kit for say rear hydraulic top link like you have? Are just buy all the components and put together myself. Thanks for your input. Be blessed.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  4 года назад

      it saved me about 300 bucks piecing mine together. maybe more. I wish I had put three sets of remotes instead of just two sets.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  4 года назад

      also check summit hydraulics.

  • @noahguyse2908
    @noahguyse2908 Год назад +1

    So if I do not have a manifold block with aux ports such as a power beyond, can I just put the main in directly into a spool valve and then run the pb from the spool valve directly to where the main in would have went on the manifold block and then T into the tank return with the spool valve?

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  Год назад

      yes and depending on how you set up the spool valve you may not need the back to tank port. just set it up so that the return dumps to the power beyond out port. this how kubota back hoes are set up. which is why they only use two lines. one in one out.

  • @rcote1234
    @rcote1234 5 лет назад +1

    Thank Dave for this video. I have Kubota B7610, with a FEL. I am adding a thumb style grapple to the bucket, and considering an electric diverted valve in between the boom hydraulic circuit. I wonder if instead, I should tap into the PB port on the FEL spool valve and add a single level spool valve for the grapple?

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  5 лет назад

      I would add an electric actuated valve for the grapple lid and plumb it into the power beyond port. I have a video on that here. ruclips.net/p/PLLg8VIC7effpOwLD7Y7d2ghv5nY4-b7Cn

    • @rcote1234
      @rcote1234 5 лет назад +1

      daveknowshow thanks! I started watching this series, and will use this approach. Really appreciate it!

  • @bday3896
    @bday3896 Год назад +1

    So the backhoe dosen't have a 3rd hose (back to tank) like the loader valve has. I'm assuming the relief valve would open in the loader valve thats supplying the backhoe if the backhoe had a situation were it exceeded pressure ???

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  Год назад

      yes relief valve opens when pressure exceeds set limits. no back to tank from the factory hoe. they used open center flow through valves so the back to tank fluid travels out to the power beyond port when the valve is activated in either direction.

  • @russ8764
    @russ8764 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for the explanation really helped me fix my tractor thank you so much

  • @johncollado1151
    @johncollado1151 6 лет назад +1

    Thank you, makes sense. I'm thinking of adding a spool valve to the back of my JD990 to run a thumb on my backhoe. This helps me understand the process and what to look for.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  6 лет назад +1

      JD990 WOW that was one of my favorite tractors ever! a real beast of a bare bones tractor. I always wanted one with a BH I had its baby brother the JD 790. I'm glad you found this video I think it will help a lot of folks. of course I'm sure the dealers are pissed that I posted this as they will be losing work.

    • @johncollado1151
      @johncollado1151 6 лет назад +2

      Maybe they will, but if it saves a few bucks in our pockets and we're capable of doing the work, why shouldn't we? I just subscribed, looking forward to your next video.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  6 лет назад

      thanks brother appreciate the sub! I already subscribed to you in case you put up a few videos of that jd 990. love to see it in action!

  • @ffc3476
    @ffc3476 3 года назад +1

    Great job
    Thanks for sharing
    Be well be safe

  • @philipdahl3890
    @philipdahl3890 5 лет назад +2

    I'll add my thanks as well, but I do have a question, if you don't mind. I just added a 3rd function valve to my L3301 to operate a grapple on the FEL. I am working on installing top & tilt to the box blade as well. My Prince (Wolverine) 2-spool valve does not appear to have a relief valve going back to the tank, as your video shows. Also have no back hoe. From the 3rd function valve, do I now route the PBY out line to the new spool valve and then from the valve to the PBY (green) input on the tractor manifold block? What about the relief valve line back to the tank, that the valve does not have? Also, in this configuration, do I need to install the optional Power Beyond/Closed Center Conversion Plug in the spool valve? Thanks again for your helpful video.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  5 лет назад

      you need the valve to be an open center valve so if that means leaving the plug out leave it out. not sure on that valve. yes you simply run from the power beyond at the loader control to the input of the new spool valve then the output of the new spool valve goes to the power beyond at the manifold block. if you do it wrong you will hear the pump strain as the relief opens and more likely the three point will no longer raise.

  • @InfiniteCraftsman
    @InfiniteCraftsman Месяц назад

    Thank you!!! Are the “T” hoses from the FEL and new spool connected with a T connector?

  • @robnystrom5690
    @robnystrom5690 3 года назад +1

    Hi hope u can help .I have a 1986 ford 2110 tractor and I removed a aux control for a rear cylinder .I pulled the 2 hoses of the manifold block and plugged the holes with 1/2inch hex head plug.and now my rear lift arms won't go up and down.great video thanks

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      cant just plug those holes. more likely you need to use a short piece of hose and tie those two together so the three point will work.

    • @robnystrom5690
      @robnystrom5690 3 года назад +1

      @@daveknowshow thanks Dave,just put a short hose on and it works great again.very good explanation you gave.thanks for getting back to me so fast.blessings to you.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      @@robnystrom5690 awesome! I'm here if you need me.

  • @TexasNightRider
    @TexasNightRider 3 года назад +1

    Outstanding video. I see now it will be possible to add a hydraulic top link to my John Deere 5200 that has a front end loader.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад +1

      yes in deed you can and rather easily as well. if I can be of further help just let me know.

    • @TexasNightRider
      @TexasNightRider 3 года назад +2

      @@daveknowshow I want to puchase a single spool valve to operate a hydraulic top link. I want the top link to remain in the set position when the valve handle is released. Am I looking for a valve with one side detent, no detent, and/or spring return? What is this type of valve called? I apologize for my ignorance but I'm still learning.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад +1

      @@TexasNightRider you want an open center flow -and spring return to center spool valve design. I know you say you want a single spool valve for just a top link but trust me you will end up wanting a side link as well which will require a two spool valve one for top and one for tilt. I wish I would have installed a three spool valve now that its done. one for top one for tilt and one for future small dump trailer. i'm here to help if you need it.

    • @TexasNightRider
      @TexasNightRider 3 года назад +1

      @@daveknowshow Thank you sir.

    • @TexasNightRider
      @TexasNightRider 3 года назад +1

      @@daveknowshow Would you be uncomfortable providing the brand name / model of the valve you purchased? If you ordered it then I would order from the same place. It appears to be exactly what I need and I am having a difficult time with the valve selection.

  • @johnstark3058
    @johnstark3058 3 года назад +1

    Please forgive me for asking, but I need rear remotes on my Mahindra, I do have a loader, can I power my new spool from the FEL manifold, curl circuit, or lift circuit ect? Thanks in advance.....love your videos....John Stark

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      feed the new spool valve from the power beyond port on the loaders spool valve. " joy stick" control.

    • @johnstark3058
      @johnstark3058 3 года назад +1

      One more quick question, iam pretty clear on the power beyond coming out of my loader joystick valve, that will go to my new spool, then continue on to feed my three point , via the port in front of seat, then I realize my spool port marked (T) will return to tank, my current tank return is behind seat just above three point, my question is this....do I just put a tee there and tie it in, currently it's a 90 degree fitting from FEL valve?

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      @@johnstark3058 yes a TEE connector will work fine. that is what I used on mine.

  • @HeinerStorch
    @HeinerStorch 3 года назад +1

    Thanks a lot for this lesson. Well done. Can you tell, what sizes of the threads at the ports of the manifold block are? Mine is a Kubota L2850D (1993) without any additional hydraulic control valves.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад +1

      more likely on that year tractor its a 3/8 NPT my suggestion is take it to a hydraulic shop and let them check the threads. if it is 3/8 NPT thread "national pipe thread" then get an adapter and change it to either J.I.C fittings or "o" RING boss fittings. the J.I.C is the best. they cost more but well worth it.

    • @HeinerStorch
      @HeinerStorch 3 года назад +1

      @@daveknowshow Hi Dave, thanks a lot for that information. I am going to give it a try.

  • @larrypawloski1786
    @larrypawloski1786 Год назад +1

    Dave, thanks for the great graphics. On some days when I first start up the L4400 I have no hydraulics, no steering, no bucket lift and no three point lift. The motor is at idle but is labouring same sound as if full load hydraulic, if left too long hydraulic pump gets hot. To get hydraulic functions I have to drop the bucket fast or drop three point hitch implement, this clears the problem, everything works fine. Any ideas of what the problem is. Thanks, Larry

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  Год назад +1

      Sounds like stuck relief valve. Either the main relief or the loader valve. Start by disconnecting the loader control valve with a bypass hose from the main power port to the power beyond port. If the problem goes away it’s the loader valve that is bad.

    • @larrypawloski1786
      @larrypawloski1786 Год назад +1

      Thanks again Dave. I bypassed the loader valve as you suggested and the problem still exists. I dropped the 3 point implement and I heard a click , the hydraulics started working again . So if it is the main relief valve sticking is it sticking closed or is it sticking open? Why would it stick? Also the engine does sound like it’s working a bit and the hydraulic pump will get hot after awhile. Any ideas? Thanks, Larry.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  Год назад +1

      I would put a pressure gauge on it to see if it shows any pressure. If you have one. Regardless I’d open the relief valve up and clean it. Likely has trash in there holding it open slightly. This causes the oil to pass by and heat up. Another issue could be the feed back rod is out of adjustment. Set the three point half way up and see if it still does it. Then try all the way down, then all the way up. You can locate the feedback rod on messick website under parts three point lift. It’s typically located under the seat area on the USA driver side. The feedback rod tells the three point module when the three point is fully up fully down and each point in between. Another area to check is the pump feed hose. If it cracks the pump sucks air and that causes cavitation and severe heat issues. I hope you can locate this issue quickly and it’s not to expensive of a fix. Keep me posted.

  • @ayak5318
    @ayak5318 3 года назад +1

    Dave, This video is the one that really just put it all together for me. And I was wondering what the best way would be to get the spool valve tank line teed back into the line to the tank-you had that tee on the block pictured right there on the screen for me. (Just need to figure out where to get these types of fittings now). I kept seeing inferences here and there about the 3301 with a Backhoe not being able to add rear remotes, but those seem to be unfounded-it looks like the backhoe if anything, makes it even easier to splice into that PB circuit. THANKS AGAIN DAVE

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      glad to help, keep in mind you can use the open center spool valve and not install the back to tank line. it will merely dump back through the power beyond port. this eliminates 1 hose completely and no need for the "T". found this out after the fact.

    • @garryharris9098
      @garryharris9098 3 года назад

      the Tee is an inline npt to 2 #8 jic fittings. the hoses on my Kubota are on the hose ends are 8G *jix or jx depending on manu. the fittings on the manifold are a npt to 8jic if it is an o ring type fitting on your back hoe or other attachment it is a jm or boss fitting it stands for Joint industry council. they are identical to 8 AN that are Army Navy fittings just looser standards. hope this helps

    • @ayak5318
      @ayak5318 3 года назад

      Thank you, sir. I was able to get this all done some time back and it’s been working well.

  • @paulthornton2070
    @paulthornton2070 6 лет назад +2

    Thanks Dave, best explanation I have seen.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  6 лет назад

      excellent! I'm confident this will help many folks as they take the journey to install hydraulics. I did a video series on my rear remotes but as I stated it was a bit lacking so this should clear things up a lot. really appreciate the kind words and thanks for taking your time to watch my videos. I have a couple on my channel that seem to be better quality wish they all were. peace love and respect, Dave in Virginia

  • @davidgrissam3919
    @davidgrissam3919 3 года назад +1

    Hello Dave
    I have put a three port spool valve on my L4400 Kubuta I do have a front end loader on the tractor with a 3rd function valve.The problem is everything works all but my 3 point hitch! I have unhooked the spool valve and hooked back up as it was before I installed the spool valve the 3 point hitch works great. So I rehooked up the lines as your video 3 point hitch will work if activate the spool valve as soon as you release the lever the 3 point hitch will stop moving so can you tell me what may be going wrong?
    P.S your videos are very helpful
    Thank David Grissam

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад +1

      sounds like the power beyond line and the back to tank line are reversed. study your spool valve and identify the power beyond out let port make sure that line hooks into the power beyond port at the manifold block. make sure the back to tank line "if there is one" is hooked to the back to tank port at the manifold block or anywhere in the line just before the manifold block. also check to be sure the flow is correct on the new valve. the line coming out of the third function valve should hood into the inlet of the new three spool valve. if you are still stumped you can email me pictures of your valve and a copy of the model number, brand and instructions and I will help you the best I can. my personal email is Daveknowshow@aol.com

    • @davidgrissam3919
      @davidgrissam3919 3 года назад +1

      @@daveknowshow Thank you very much for the help on the new spool valve. everything is working now. Again Thank you!

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      @@davidgrissam3919 thank you for allowing me to help it was my pleasure and I really enjoyed our phone conversation.

  • @jessestone9117
    @jessestone9117 11 месяцев назад +1

    Dave if I don't have a backhoe just that line to the new remote pb inlet thanks jesse

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  11 месяцев назад

      Yup tap into that for rear remotes or a third function on your loader. What ever you need.

    • @jessestone9117
      @jessestone9117 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@daveknowshow thanks Dave I do have a 3rd function on it now

  • @waltthon505
    @waltthon505 3 года назад +1

    Great video. You're video has helped me understand how hydraulics work. I have a question about when would you add a cooler and where would you place it in the line?

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад +1

      you always want a cooler if you are using the hydraulics a lot for say a front end loader, backhoe or something similar. all of these tractors come from the factory with a cooler installed. I merely left the cooler out of the circuit merely to save time and space. but the cooler is there located at the end of the circuit just before the fluid dumps back to tank for further cooling before the next use. the cooler is physically located in front of the radiator on most tractors. make sure you keep it clean. check it often when mowing or brush hogging as they get clogged up and can cause thermal break down of the hydraulic fluid. thanks for a great question. you are the first to ask which surprised me it has taken this long for someone to point out that I left the cooler out of the circuit.

    • @waltthon505
      @waltthon505 3 года назад +1

      @@daveknowshow thanks for sharing your knowledge with me and others that have problems.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      @@waltthon505 always happy to help.

  • @barrb6134
    @barrb6134 3 года назад +1

    Thks soo much very well explained!!

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      thanks Barr B appreciate the kind words.

  • @ddacombe4752
    @ddacombe4752 3 года назад +1

    Thanks Dave, great explanation

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад +1

      always happy to share and help my tractor brothers and sisters along the way.

  • @lh98
    @lh98 3 года назад +1

    I want to add 3rd function to my fel but I’d also like to add a hydraulic top link in the rear. I have a backhoe on my Mahindra 1533. Summit has 2,3, and 4 valve kits now or you can get a w r long 3rd function. What is best to do? This video makes it sound like you can add more functions by getting a spool valve and have extra levers vs electric valves. What should I do?

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад +1

      I like the electric third function for the loader. I did a video showing how I did mine on the cheap. I bought some parts from summit and after he seen what I was doing he put together an inexpensive electric third function option for the front end loader. as far as the rear remotes for the top link I wish I had of installed a three spool valve instead of the two spool valve I installed. of course where I installed mine I could not fit a three spool valve. only a two spool. with two spools valves I have hydraulic top and tilt. with one more valve I could actuate a small dump trailer. I may build a small dump trailer and add in an electric valve to control it. the guy at summit can help you with all this stuff he is pretty good with piecing together what you need. if I can be of any help please reach out to me. I'm here to help. you can add as many as you want by following the video you just watched that shows exactly how the system works.

    • @lh98
      @lh98 3 года назад +1

      @@daveknowshow Thank you for the quick response sir. When I watched this video: ruclips.net/video/_BoflPiwd64/видео.html it gave me pause to think I could just add this from summit for nearly the same cost but also have additional hydraulic remotes. The W R Long 3rd function is like 850 bucks alone just for the one function. Still best to spend that much on the one third function? Thoughts? Thanks!
      *perhaps you can answer this too: why when I disconnect my backhoe is there 3 hydraulic lines? One is pressure in one is return so what is the third? All I know is when I disconnect it I supposedly have to connect one back in to keep the 3 point lift functional. This just keep the hydraulic circuit flowing through?

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      @@lh98 yes one is power out one is power in. those two hook together to complete the power beyond circuit and allow things down stream to function. like the three point hitch which is typically the last function on that circuit. you can use the wrlong third function or get the one from summit that is like around 550.00 I think. very well worth it. you want to control that grapple from the loader joy stick electric control. I like the non electric style for the rear top link so you can feather it and move in or out slowly. cant do that with the electric third function its wide open or off no in between.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      @@lh98 www.amazon.com/Hydraulic-Function-Joystick-Handle-Couplers/dp/B07N7KFSG5/ref=sr_1_3?crid=242LT900YKGA5&dchild=1&keywords=third+function+valve+kit&qid=1622776451&sprefix=thrid+function%2Caps%2C152&sr=8-3

  • @warrenroberts4502
    @warrenroberts4502 4 года назад +1

    Hi Dave..
    Great instructional tutorial...
    On a related subject..all the hydraulics work on my M8540 except when I engage my rear auxiliary hydraulics to operate my backhoe attachment it triggers what sounds like a pressure relief valve and no fluid is moving to the attachment..where do I start with troubleshooting?
    Thanks in advance for any help with this...
    Warren
    Maui,Hawaii

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  4 года назад +1

      sounds like you have the hoe plumbed in backwards. however with out being right in front of the tractor in question this is merely a guess. another and my best guess would be that the rear remotes are not designed to run a hoe. what you need to run a hoe is to loop into the power beyond circuit in series. fluid must be traveling into and out of the hoe constantly when NO CONTROLS are being activated on the tractor or hoe. fluid should flow in one hose and out the other freely with zero restriction. if the relief is activating this means fluid is " dead heading " and has no place to go so i trips the pressure relief. I hope this helps.

    • @warrenroberts4502
      @warrenroberts4502 4 года назад +1

      @@daveknowshow
      Hey Dave....
      Thanks for the rapid reply...
      Ive run this backhoe a lot before this new problem...youre absolutely right about how this attachment is supposed to be running...ill just keep messing around as see if i can get it working...just kind of funny to have this happen all of the sudden..thanks for helping all of us with all of your videos..
      Warren

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  4 года назад

      @@warrenroberts4502 so it was working and now just stopped? sounds like the quick connect for the hydraulic hose is not fully seated. it may be defective. this will cause hydraulic dead head and the relief will open. just dont run it to long like that trying to find the problem because the pressure relief will cause the fluid to heat up as well as the pump. this can cause pump failure. unplug the backhoe and see if the tractor works. also check your filters they can collapse inside and this will also create similar issues. wish I was closer to you I'd pop on over and we could figure this out.

  • @steveski8643
    @steveski8643 2 года назад +1

    Great Information I have a 1210 ford tractor and hydraulics block has only two hose connection one in and one out and in the middle there is a screw that you turn turn left for 3pt or right for remote. I wanted to add a hydraulic top link does this mean i can't use the 3pt and the top link the same time? Any help would be greatly appreciated

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  2 года назад

      I think, not 100% but once you hook up and flip that switch it feeds the remote and then returns through the other port to power the three point hitch. so yes both will be available however one will take precedence over the other while being used. hope that helps and thanks for the kind words.

    • @steveski8643
      @steveski8643 2 года назад +1

      @@daveknowshow Dave you are the man ! I really appreciate you taking the time to write back to me! Thanks again!

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  2 года назад

      @@steveski8643 I'm here if you need me I will help the best I can. your kind words encourage me so thanks a million.

  • @billclaridge5220
    @billclaridge5220 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks Dave, Tthe penny has dropped now! I think I am happy to have a go at adding a spool valve to the back of my Kubota

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  6 лет назад +1

      that is awesome! so glad to hear this! makes creating these videos worth every bit of effort.

  • @jeremyjamesenos
    @jeremyjamesenos 4 года назад +1

    I've got an L3800 that I'm considering adding both a rear remote and a 3rd loader function as well. Since I don't think I'd need them both at the same time, I considered just moving hose connections as needed from a single valve, but then I think I prefer different valve lever locations for each anyway, which means two valves again.
    My question is about both options: where are people ordering the kits from? Genuine Kubota would be my preference if it exists and is not too pricey, but I haven't been able to find any yet.
    I'm also hoping that the hydraulic pressure is enough to drive a 3 foot diameter auger bit for tree planting on the 3800. (Not the HST model)
    Also considering making my own grapple system as well. Thanks!

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  4 года назад +1

      I doubt it has enough flow for a 3 foot auger. they do make a low flow auger that may work. however most 3rd function valves are electromagnetic activated and holding the button for prolonged periods will burn out the coil on the valve. I do recommend independent 3rd function valve for the grapple. I added 2 sets of rear remotes and wish I had 3 sets. hydraulic top and tilt will use 2 sets. a third set of rear remotes would be great for a small dump trailer. trading off hoses from one thing to another gets old fast. I created my own third function kit from parts here and there. you can find them on amazon, northern tool, surplus hydraulics dot com and many other places. there are some places that sell kits all made up. W.R.LONG is one company that comes to mind. if I can help in any way just ask.

    • @jeremyjamesenos
      @jeremyjamesenos 4 года назад +1

      @@daveknowshow Thanks for the thoughts. I checked and the hydraulic flow just isn't enough to power an auger motor of that size. I'd have to go with an auxiliary PTO pump or something if I did that. I'd rather just have the whole auger PTO mounted instead, but I can't find a 3 pt auger of that size either.
      Also good point about the solenoid wearing out for constant use implements. I've been thinking about fashioning a 6-way loader control handle that twists, controlling a remote valve that's connected via push/pull wire. Could even have detent function that way.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  4 года назад +1

      @@jeremyjamesenos they make a "low flow" auger motor however even those struggle on these tractors. additionally I'm not a fan of mounting augers on the front end loader. the lateral forces against the loader arms would be a weak point. I could see the auger twisting a loader frame. they also make large auger but they only fit the post hole digger that has a really slow turning gear box. I cant remember the gear ratio but it requires a larger horse power engine to rotate the box from what I understand. those style gear box will turn a 30 inch auger or larger. typically see these on 80 plus horse power tractors however they may work on lower HP also. you would need to do some research. these days they use skids steers with front mount hydraulic augers but years ago they used three point pto driven. so they are out there. you may could build your own. just remeber the larger the auger the slower it MUST turn. the slower it turns the more likely it will sling the tractor around if it ever hits something and stops failing to break the shear pin. you could go for a ride!

    • @jeremyjamesenos
      @jeremyjamesenos 4 года назад +1

      @@daveknowshow Thanks... rear mounted PTO driven also makes a whole lot more sense to me as well for the same reasons. Skid steers just have no choice, so I guess that evolved w/ the popularity of their attachments. This was helpful as I hadn't even ever heard that a geared down PTO driven one existed either. Last time I had to do it, I used a regular rear post auger gear box jerry-rigged to the 36" bit... and it was all the 38HP compact wanted to handle at times, but it did it. I'll keep my eyes open for a low ratio rear mount.

  • @jimc9581
    @jimc9581 6 лет назад +1

    Excellent job Dave, that does help a lot ! Thanks

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  6 лет назад

      super excited to launch this video as I know it will help a lot of folks who are apprehensive about venturing into hydraulic tampering and modifying. its still a big job and likely worth every penny the shops charge to do this type of work.

  • @evankibbe590
    @evankibbe590 2 года назад +1

    Confusening!!! But !!!
    I'm trying to add 2 - 2 value spools to my loader on my 706 with a pb . I have one hooked up and working!!!! But I have a second one I want to hook in at a later date !! They both have pb !! Do I have to hook the second one to the pb on the first or can I try them together????

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  2 года назад +1

      yes they need to be in series, one pb feeds into the next valve. the next valves PB feeds into the next and so on.

    • @evankibbe590
      @evankibbe590 2 года назад

      @@daveknowshow so I have to use pb on the first !!! What do I do with the returns 🤔

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  2 года назад +1

      @@evankibbe590 pb feeds to the input on the next valve then pb out of that valve goes to next valve or returns to pb port at manifold block which feeds three point. back to tank lines will T connect back into the back to tank port at the manifold block.

  • @franciscoacebo235
    @franciscoacebo235 Год назад +1

    Excellent, thank you.

  • @veritasventures1737
    @veritasventures1737 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks for this great video. I don't fully understand though... I just purchased a 2022 Kubota B2601 and the power beyond port goes directly to the tank. I watched some videos of how to add rear remotes and they just take that line off and utilize it for rear remote spools. But that doesn't seem to line up with this video that always shows the PB going to the 3 point. In my head somehow the power beyond has to have pressure against it otherwise it would just relieve all the pressure in the system going straight to the tank, right? I mean I know that seems right to me but somehow it can't be? Thanks for your help!

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  7 месяцев назад +1

      Yes it bypasses straight to tank until you move the three point lever. Then the pressure increases due to load. Once three point is in position and is satisfied via the feedback rod the valve reverts back to dumping to tank. In other words the three point control valve dumps to tank and is the last valve in the circuit. Also when no spool valve is calling for fluid power the system shows very low to no pressure.pressure is only present when fluid is place into a path of resistance. As in into a hydraulic cylinder. I hope this helps

    • @veritasventures1737
      @veritasventures1737 7 месяцев назад

      @@daveknowshow Thanks for your explanation! That definitely helps. I also learned that when folks called the line on my tractor that goes from loader valve PB port to the 'tank' it is actually going to the 3 point first, as you're saying. That helped clear things up for me, too. It is a little hard to understand how there is little to no pressure in the system normally, but when something calls for fluid somehow pressure appears. Sounds like magic to me lol. Thanks again!

  • @houndsmanone4563
    @houndsmanone4563 6 лет назад

    Thanks Dave. This gives a better picture of how the fluids flow. So if a person wants to add two rear remotes to tractor, what kind of average cost would be expected for various parts? As always, nicely done.

  • @johnbrunetto
    @johnbrunetto 3 года назад +1

    Excellent explanation. Thank you.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      I'm here to help in any way I can. thank you for the kind words.

  • @LouisianaTractorworks
    @LouisianaTractorworks 6 лет назад +2

    Hey Dave, thanks for the great info glad to see another video from you. I enjoyed it learned something so that means it a good day.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  6 лет назад +1

      I hear you brother. I learned a few things to. only took 6 tries to make this video. door bells ringing, phone ringing, you got mail chiming on the pc, suddenly had to pee, all sorts of interruptions. lol been one of those adventures for sure. appreciate you letting me post to your page.

    • @LouisianaTractorworks
      @LouisianaTractorworks 6 лет назад +1

      LMAO! That is a community and you are a member so please post all you want. I need to thank you for posting your videos on my page.

    • @janethost832
      @janethost832 6 лет назад +1

      Backhoe for a 4105 John Deere tractor

  • @mtnmanchuck414
    @mtnmanchuck414 4 года назад +1

    Dave Thanks
    Can you show links to parts used in your installation on suppliers?
    I have a Kioti LK3054 which is very similar to the Kubotas.
    Thanks again.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  4 года назад

      I dont have any links my advice is locate a decent hydraulic shop that is willing to help you figure out which adapters you need. some fittings on these tractors are 3/8 NPT " NATIONAL PIPE THREAD " others are JIC style fittings. do a google search for " identifying hydraulic fitting " this will help you be able to identify what you have and build from that. I went cheap because my money is limited. I used a lot of 3/8 NPT premade hose. this saved a lot of money. I still had to convert some of those 3/8 NPT fittings to JIC or BSPT " british straight pipe thread" and also the number 8 o-ring style as well. its a lot to deal with and I simply did the best I could to save money. with that said I likely spent more than I should have but lots less than if I had paid the dealer to install it and get the parts together for me. I got frustrated at times but it was a learning experience. lol

  • @cdzirkle
    @cdzirkle 3 года назад +1

    Thank you Dave - I've got a walvoil 2 spool valve with a joy stick running a FEL on my L2600 and it's booger'd up somehow. Asked a guy to re-build and now on "float", the bucket is floppy...useless. I have a question though - on the PB circuit back from the spool valve - to the manifold block - is that a straight pass-through to the tank? Much thanks -

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      yes and no. not so much "straight to tank" it makes one more stop. it hits the three point lift to be available pressure if the three point calls for it. if the three point does not call for hydraulic power then yes it dumps straight to tank after it goes through the cooling radiator to reduce the temperature of the fluid. hope that helps. note also in this video we do NOT show the cooling radiator for the hydraulic system. it simply was not needed to explain how the system works.

    • @MikeSmith-nu9wt
      @MikeSmith-nu9wt 2 года назад

      If your buckets tilt is sloppy it's probably a cylinder problem ( mine just started doing that ..

  • @jacobmccall110
    @jacobmccall110 10 месяцев назад +1

    Will this work on a ford 2n tractor for additional rear remote couplers? Are there additional ports?

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  10 месяцев назад +1

      System should work on the same principle. You should be able to add a valve with a power beyond port and back to tank port and plumb it in right off the hydraulic pump if need be. Some adapter creation may be necessary.

  • @evtoilnj
    @evtoilnj 2 года назад +1

    Where is the link to the spool valve you bought

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  2 года назад

      i dont link i have a link. it was a prince brand sold at northern tool and equipment. surplus center has them also

  • @guy5322
    @guy5322 6 лет назад +3

    Thanks Dave. Very helpful and clear.

  • @williamarquett5948
    @williamarquett5948 3 года назад +1

    I want to put a power beyond set up on my tractor but I can't find out which ports to connect to and my dealer won't show me a schematic. I have a Mahindra 2638 HST without a backhoe. Can you help me. Thank you.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      I can try. there are a few test we can do if you know where the manifold block is located on the machine. or we can start at the front end loader valve

  • @JimsEquipmentShed
    @JimsEquipmentShed 6 лет назад

    Nice Dave! Its always easier to follow with visuals, well done.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  6 лет назад

      thanks brother I hope it helps some folks.

  • @steveski8643
    @steveski8643 Год назад +1

    Hey Dave! You have help me before.I need some more help I have 1210 ford it has hydraulic block to add rear hydraulics one side says in the other says out so do I hook up out on the block to in on the spool and the in on the block to out on the spool I tried that and top link went out and I can not get it back in. then I press the spool and fluid came out back of the spool. Any help would be greatly appreciated

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  Год назад

      what you said sounds correct however read your documentation. some spool valves are not open center. open center style is likely what you need. also some spool valves need an adaptor installed inside to give it a power beyond port. you dont always need that if you find out which port out your tractor is providing flow then connect it to the spool valve inlet turn on the tractor and see which port on the spool valve flows fluid when the valve is in neutral / center position, that port connect back to the tractor. the other two ports on the spool valve connect to the top link. run the machine and test. make sure the pump is not squealing. you will hear it. let me know if you need help

    • @steveski8643
      @steveski8643 Год назад +1

      @@daveknowshow Thank you very much Dave you are the Man! Thanks for your time!!

  • @kevinashby3784
    @kevinashby3784 5 лет назад +1

    Very good illustration and explanation. Thank#.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  5 лет назад

      glad to help thanks for dropping by my channel

  • @Slisktord
    @Slisktord 3 года назад +2

    I'm very new to hydraulics and this video helped me a lot, thank you!!! I've got an old hako trac minitractor and I'm planning on building a front end loader for it, and I've been wondering about the two cylinders which lift the bucket, (also same question about the two which dumps the bucket) since I've got two lift cylinders (one on each side) how do I control them with just one lever? Can I just use a T looking adapter or do they need to be synchronized somehow? I rarely speak English so I hope you understand what I mean, hehe..
    Thanks in advance!

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      yes just "T" connect into them. they will equalize themselves once everything is tied together and the bucket is installed.

    • @Slisktord
      @Slisktord 3 года назад +1

      @@daveknowshow awesome!! Thank you so much😃

    • @Slisktord
      @Slisktord 3 года назад +1

      @@daveknowshow hello again! I'm now starting to order the stuff I need for my front end loader build but I can't figure out how powerful my pump is, it's small garden tractor from the 60s so I assume it's not a lot. So to my question; what would happen if I buy spool valves that is made for 40L/H and my tractor only supplies like maybe half?
      Or how do I find out how much my hydraulic pump is flowing?

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  3 года назад

      @@Slisktord pump it in a gallon jug and time it then do the math. but the main thing is make sure the valve can handle at least as large a flow rate as you have. if it can handle more that is great. if it can not handle as much as your pump delivers that is bad. typical Kubota Lseries tractors are under 10 gallons per minute like around 6.8 GPM roughly

    • @Slisktord
      @Slisktord 3 года назад +1

      @@daveknowshow oh that makes so much sense when I come to think about it, haha! Thanks, I'll try that.
      Yeah I assumed so, but what happens if I use a valve for 20gpm and my pump is only flowing 10gpm? Will the cylinders work slower than they should or anything like that?

  • @lkrock007
    @lkrock007 6 лет назад +1

    Adding rear remotes this weekend hopefully.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  6 лет назад +1

      excellent! this is what I love to hear! if I can help please feel free to look back over my videos or leave a question. I try and check my channel regularly all through out the day to help those who may be stuck if I can. I dont have all the answers but I have a few. thanks for taking your time to watch my videos.

    • @louis5489
      @louis5489 6 лет назад +1

      daveknowshow thank you sir.

  • @NeilLB7
    @NeilLB7 2 года назад +1

    Wouldn't a 3-point have a main pressure line that would be internal to the transmission case and not a power beyond line/hose as shown in your diagram? 3-point lift hydraulics are typically very integral to the tractors hydraulic system whereas power beyond exterior lines/hoses are for operating add-ons. Maybe it varies greatly from brand to brand.

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  2 года назад

      possibly varies from brand to brand and model to model as well. most of these open center design systems the three point feeds at the end of the power beyond circuit. if you raise or lower the front end loader your three point will not go up during that operation. it may go down but not up while operating other power beyond controlled items like a loader or third function valve. hope that helps

  • @chrisdixon8484
    @chrisdixon8484 5 лет назад +1

    Hi Dave. I am looking for the type or name of fittings you used on your manifold block for the lines coming from your front end loader and the line coming from the rear of your tractor. Those line lead to your back to tank port on the manifold and feature and T-fitting and some type of fitting connecting into the block. What type of T-fitting is that as well as the fitting you used to extend the T-fitting out from the block?

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  5 лет назад

      the manifold block on mine has a national pipe thread. I actually changed it from this configuration to another configuration that works better and protrudes less. I can email you a picture if you contact me via email at Daveknowshow@aol.com the fitting I used was a 3/8 NPT male to 3/8 JIC female adaptor which connects to a 3/8 jic T connector with 3 JIC male fittings which the hoses hook into from the loader and rear remotes back to tank lines. if you would like a picture of what that looks like just email me and ask for the pictures of the manifold. I will be happy to send them ASAP.

  • @HomesteadOC
    @HomesteadOC 6 лет назад +1

    Awesome explanation, thank you. I have a small tractor Satoh S370D with a cat 1 3PH and FEL. I wanted to add a hydraulic top link and try to use a 2 spool valve or a joystick to operate hitch up and down along with top link out and in. Are the lower arms of the 3PH usually too integrated to add to a joystick or standard spool valve?
    I also want to add a remote filter because to clean my strainer I have to drain all the oil in the system to pull it. Where in the system should the remote filter be added?

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  6 лет назад

      great questions but beyond my pay grade. typically the rear lift has an internal hydraulic cylinder and a tad difficult to add a joy stick control for the actual three point. three point lifts are generally power up gravity down and have a position control sensor to maintain height. on mine the two spool valve operates a top link and a tilt link. I dont have the tilt link yet that will be a future purchase. normally the filter is in the back to tank line and on some tractors between the HST tranny and the back to tank return as well as the back to tank line from the three point system. a shop manual for your tractor would shed a lot of light on what you could get away with doing.

  • @kimberly41301
    @kimberly41301 4 года назад +1

    Hello, I'm installing a 602 backhoe on a l3400 and the backhoe has 3 hoses....i;m confused...could you please help me? Thanks so much!!

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  4 года назад

      yes one of those three hoses is the back to tank hose. refer to the owners manual for which one is the back to tank hose. you can dump that hose to the back to tank port which is labeled in your owners manual page 36. or you can install an adaptor and dump it into the hydraulic fill port at the rear of the tractor where the red cap is.

    • @kimberly41301
      @kimberly41301 4 года назад +1

      @@daveknowshow Thanks so much! Could I just put a tee on the loader block return?

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  4 года назад

      @@kimberly41301 yes i installed a
      "T" at the back to tank port at the manifold for my rear remotes and a "T" at the loader control back to tank port for my variable diverter valve in the video i did on the jerky three point hitch issue.

    • @kimberly41301
      @kimberly41301 4 года назад +1

      @@daveknowshow Great! I can't thank you enough! Your videos are very informative. Keep up the good work....

    • @daveknowshow
      @daveknowshow  4 года назад

      @@kimberly41301 thanks a million my friend!!!