Death of Lydia Litvyak - Top scoring female pilot of all time | 3 - 18 victories - 1st August 1943

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • On 1st August, 1943, while escorting a flight of IL-2 Sturmoviks in her Yak 1b, Senior Lieutenant Lydia ‘Lylia’ Litvyak attacked a formation of German bombers. In the process, she was attacked by a formation of Bf 109s. An intense dogfight broke out in which Litvyak became separated from her comrades and she was last seen with smoke billowing from her Yak. She is believed to have rammed her attacker or been struck in the head by German fire.
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  • @sotocinematics
    @sotocinematics  2 года назад +38

    Hope you enjoy!
    Litvyak had 3 confirmed victories, but may have had an unconfirmed score of up to 11 to 18 aircraft.

    • @LeopardIL2
      @LeopardIL2 2 года назад

      As usual you delivered. Short Documentaires using BoX, weel thought!

    • @k3D4rsi554maq
      @k3D4rsi554maq 2 года назад

      Indeed! A great video.

    • @christopherhumphreys7052
      @christopherhumphreys7052 2 года назад +1

      Such poor taste and choice of video applauding Soviet Union past victories in light of what is transpiring in Ukraine...

    • @marks_sparks1
      @marks_sparks1 2 года назад +11

      Definitely enjoyed it. Have more USSR aerial content. Helps trigger the Wehraboos and Russophobes which is good for views and the algorithm.

    • @sotocinematics
      @sotocinematics  2 года назад +1

      @@marks_sparks1 🤣

  • @konstantinptitsyn1138
    @konstantinptitsyn1138 2 года назад +10

    Её знали как "Белая лилия"... , останки нашли лишь в 1969 году и пернзахорогили в 1971. На народные пожертвования снят хужожественно-документальный фильм. ruclips.net/video/IwAnJ5Hl35Y/видео.html

  • @fleuger99
    @fleuger99 Год назад +5

    Great vid. 3 - 18 is a BIG difference so if 3 confirmed then its three. By most country standards one is not an ace until 5 enemy planes shot down.

  • @robertomeneghetti6215
    @robertomeneghetti6215 2 года назад +6

    At last the story on a non-German pilot!

  • @likklej8
    @likklej8 2 года назад +2

    Great there are still surviving flying planes left. When I worked in Cambridge on Duxford open days an old Japanese Zero would fly over town. Good to see old Soviet planes still flying.

  • @exJacktar
    @exJacktar 2 года назад +5

    Regardless, she went out like a warrior. Much respect.

  • @touristguy87
    @touristguy87 2 года назад +3

    apparently she didn't actually die just crashed behind German lines...suffered a severe head wound...was the subject of a documentary of a friend who finally found her 50 years later living in Switzerland.

    • @kovesp1
      @kovesp1 2 года назад +4

      As the wife of Hitler?

    • @vadimpm1290
      @vadimpm1290 2 месяца назад

      @@kovesp1 hitler had died in Argentine, not in Switzerland, doc.

  • @oldschoolamerican748
    @oldschoolamerican748 Год назад +4

    Trust the science, she was shot down, in a dog fight and was killed (shot to the head) and crashed.

  • @carloshenriquebins5113
    @carloshenriquebins5113 Год назад +22

    8 against 1 and a female.What a warrior she was.May God bless you Lydia

    • @kurtman752
      @kurtman752 Год назад

      Hartmann fought against 7 mustangs and survived

    • @junibug6790
      @junibug6790 Год назад +5

      @@kurtman752 Uh, ok. This video isn't about Hartmann.

    • @kurtman752
      @kurtman752 Год назад +1

      @@junibug6790 SOVIEt propaganda

    • @gazza2933
      @gazza2933 Год назад

      ​@@kurtman752
      It's a UK Channel and I certainly wouldn't promote a
      Nazi controlled Luftwaffe. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    • @kurtman752
      @kurtman752 Год назад

      @@gazza2933that biatch has nothing on Hartmann ;he killed 352 enemies and also survived the war ;she didn't even get out alive 🤣and not talking about nazis I'm talking about pilots

  • @linuschan39
    @linuschan39 2 года назад +27

    Great work! It's obvious that much research has been put into this video, appreciate the effort with the authentic markings.

    • @sotocinematics
      @sotocinematics  2 года назад +4

      Thanks I appreciate the support, I had lots of skins to make this time!

    • @tom5051666
      @tom5051666 2 года назад

      are you high?

  • @cannonfodder4376
    @cannonfodder4376 2 года назад +45

    Separated from the rest of her flight and beset by multiple experienced attackers, she went down fighting. Another good cinematic Soto.

    • @kienthunder4974
      @kienthunder4974 2 года назад +2

      Everywhere I go, I see you.

    • @javasrevenge7121
      @javasrevenge7121 2 года назад +2

      apparently she didn't actually die just crashed behind German lines...suffered a severe head wound...was the subject of a documentary of a friend who finally found her 50 years later living in Switzerland.

    • @HarborLockRoad
      @HarborLockRoad 2 года назад +2

      And got 2 German aces on the way! Hey, you wanna buy a bridge in Brooklyn for cheap???

    • @SakhForester
      @SakhForester Год назад +1

      @@javasrevenge7121 In the post-war years, fellow soldiers continued to search for the missing pilot. It was found by chance in a mass grave in the village of Dmitrovka, Shakhtersky district, Donetsk region. Her remains were discovered by local boys near the Kozhevnya farm and buried on July 29, 1969 in a mass grave in the village of Dmitrovka as an "unknown pilot".

  • @andrewmacdonald4833
    @andrewmacdonald4833 Год назад +5

    What an incredible young woman...this is such a thoughtful story..

  • @David-bf9ux
    @David-bf9ux 2 года назад +5

    She was a beautiful woman..

  • @gglen2141
    @gglen2141 2 года назад +5

    It seems that pilots fell into two categories during WW2. The pilots who had it figured out and could shoot down enemy planes all day long and pilots who occupied cockpit space till they came across them. War is a terrible business.

    • @Errorcutive
      @Errorcutive 2 года назад +4

      I noticed few aces like, hartmann, beurling and Kozhedub. All had pre combat flight hours in civilian world. Which somehow seems to carry into their fighter career.

  • @clementevaldez1271
    @clementevaldez1271 2 года назад +14

    A truly heroic and courageous patriot....such was the end of so many great aces of all nations involved.... She was beautiful and skilled in aerial combat...R I P.

    • @AK-qy5iw
      @AK-qy5iw 2 года назад +1

      My condolences for your loss. Fake communist heroes are very valuable and there is not enough videos of them.

    • @sebbonxxsebbon6824
      @sebbonxxsebbon6824 2 года назад

      It was WW2, fighting an enemy bent on killing everyone (including Ukrainians). Get over yourself, she fought and died fighting evil, Nazi scum.

    • @AK-qy5iw
      @AK-qy5iw Год назад +1

      @Old Corps In 22.06.1941 commies had 20 000 airplanes on the border with Germany. Luftwaffe had 2300 planes for the preemptive attack. Most soviet planes were just abandoned on the temporary airfields.And there was nothing wrong with the airplane models, there were very decent planes among them. Purges also didnt affect much. The fear of the NKVD that purges created actually kept SU together under the attack of Wehrmacht.

  • @streamofconsciousness5826
    @streamofconsciousness5826 Год назад +3

    93 kills in 1943, and I never heard of him, did he survive the war?
    A little more on who she was would have been nice, not sure what the format is but I did not expect to jump in on her life on her last flight. We barely knew her.

    • @catfood_03_4stray
      @catfood_03_4stray Год назад

      Josef Stalin had ordered the creation of a female group of aerobatic aircraft before the onset of the WWII. Lydia Lidviak was one of the girls chosen for that group. The training of the new fighter pilots in the Soviet Union was very brief and pilots were pushed into action with lack experience. Lidviak was an exception. A rumour says that she had "shot down" her trainer during the training dogfight ( she didn't pull the trigger, but she placed the viser on him ). I have read that her total score was 12 victories and one observation baloon ( that gave coordinates to the German artilery ). Along with the unconfirmed victories she might have had 17 airial kills.

    • @Nathan-bd6cq
      @Nathan-bd6cq Год назад

      The video is titled “Death of Lydia Litvyak”. It’s pretty clear it’s gonna be about her last flight.

  • @wildcolonialman
    @wildcolonialman 2 года назад +25

    They were remarkable woman, flying all sorts of machines. Fabulous effort to remember these Girls.

  • @shahrookhshroff3018
    @shahrookhshroff3018 Год назад +1

    This is the price one has to pay for messing around with the Luftwaffe!

  • @МаксимВепринцев-ь3к
    @МаксимВепринцев-ь3к 2 года назад +13

    No one is forgotten , nothing is forgotten ! Thanks . We live because of their heroism . Eternal memory to the fallen in the battles against fascism .

    • @kurtman752
      @kurtman752 Год назад

      Communism is dead boz🤡 don't cry😂

    • @FakerLeon
      @FakerLeon 3 месяца назад

      now the world is up against Russian fascism

  • @Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu
    @Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu 2 года назад +3

    You guys put out the best product on this channel. 👍 ...Can't believe there isn't millions of subs yet. -#1fan

  • @ErnestIsGaming
    @ErnestIsGaming 2 года назад +3

    When you're locked in a plane 3rd person... How are you panning your camera so smooth? When I try to pan, it moves too edgy and tactile. What control do you use for panning? Do you use your VR or Trackir or something?

    • @sotocinematics
      @sotocinematics  2 года назад +2

      I use F11 and pan with my mouse or F3/F8/Shift+F8 to have a locked on flyby

  • @laptopnotebook1015
    @laptopnotebook1015 2 года назад +2

    Great vid. Those are custom ground textures ?

  • @shepleonard8695
    @shepleonard8695 2 месяца назад

    She was your typical Soviet propaganda story which are all greatly over exaggerated. Lydia had possibly 3 confirmed kills, 1 being a ballon. To be an ACE you need 5 airplane kills.

  • @premikadevi7207
    @premikadevi7207 2 года назад +1

    She is very beautiful

  • @scottwilson9676
    @scottwilson9676 2 года назад +2

    All that young life wasted in so many wars.

  • @Kshahdoo67
    @Kshahdoo67 2 года назад +8

    I'd say female fighter pilots didn't have a lot of chances to survive at that war. Even if their skill was better than opponents', at some points of a fight it became the matter of stamina not skill who would win, and women obviously weren't match to men in this regard. Fighting at the speed of 400+ km/h took a lot of physicalty. I mean there is no any female F1 pilot right now, and I'm not even sure there were any in the past. And F1 is much slower than WW2 fighters were.

  • @explorer1968
    @explorer1968 2 года назад +1

    Was DNA testing performed on the remains of the female pilot? That could clear if she was Litvyiak...

    • @макслюлюкин
      @макслюлюкин Год назад

      Relatives are already doing this if they see fit.Most likely, they found the remains of the aircraft and by the numbers of the engine and other parts, they determined which pilot the plane was assigned to, and they found out the Name of the deceased pilot.

  • @sanchezsanchez7107
    @sanchezsanchez7107 2 года назад +2

    Some good content at least at ytb. Thanks a lot for sharing it.

  • @TheDrednaught
    @TheDrednaught 2 года назад +6

    Interesting amazed the Russians used female pilots but she was clearly good rip all that died in that terrible warn

    • @Desertduleler_88
      @Desertduleler_88 2 года назад

      That is part of the Communist ideology of egalitarianism.

    • @paul123ggggggggg
      @paul123ggggggggg 2 года назад

      good? if a man only scored her tally we wouldnt care. and 11 to 18 or whatever he said is a lie. her total war time score was four.

    • @catfood_03_4stray
      @catfood_03_4stray Год назад

      Josef Stalin had ordered the creation of a female group of aerobatic aircraft before the onset of the WWII. Lydia Lidviak was one of the girls chosen for that group. The training of the new fighter pilots in the Soviet Union was very brief and pilots were pushed into action with lack experience. Lidviak was an exception. A rumour says that she had "shot down" her trainer during the training dogfight ( she didn't pull the trigger, but she placed the viser on him ). I have read that her total score was 12 victories and one observation baloon ( that gave coordinates to the German artilery ). Along with the unconfirmed victories she might have had 17 airial kills.

  • @RemusKingOfRome
    @RemusKingOfRome 2 года назад +2

    Excellent. High quality video.

  • @kevincostello3856
    @kevincostello3856 2 года назад +3

    God Bless Lidya :: You fought like a Lion defending youre people and family a true warrior and hero.

    • @kurtman752
      @kurtman752 Год назад

      Youre. 😂😂😂 Learn to spell jkss

  • @freeman_0154
    @freeman_0154 2 года назад +3

    Not Lydia but Lilia.

  • @AGOS754
    @AGOS754 Год назад +2

    CENAS INCRÍVEIS DE UMA PILOTO FANTÁSTICA QUE LUTOU FEROZMENTE PELO SEU PAÍS.
    FORTALEZA CEARÁ

  • @tomaskoupil5994
    @tomaskoupil5994 Год назад

    I suppose radio communication wasn't the thing in Red Airforce..

    • @vadimpm1290
      @vadimpm1290 2 месяца назад

      until the second half of 1942

  • @professeurklonk
    @professeurklonk 2 года назад

    Pendant cette guerre les femmes Américaine étaient cantonnées comme pilote de convoyage mais n'allez pas combatre encore moins chez les Anglais je crois ..

  • @massimomaltoni8800
    @massimomaltoni8800 2 года назад

    The small yak is perpect for the pappy boygton theory small agile fast well weapons then superior to me109 but will be better easy low cost production then is very difficult say the better in battle yak is winner but for production logistic is better me109 no any fighter better me109 in production need few days

  • @martinan22
    @martinan22 Год назад

    I hate all Anglos. But this is a very dignified and honourable series. Most un-Anglo-like.

  • @ericcheng3143
    @ericcheng3143 Год назад

    She fought better german fighters has made serious mistakes getting separated then shot down by the germans. Brave woman.

  • @ricktoffer01
    @ricktoffer01 2 года назад

    I have read the Book The White Rose of Stalinggrad.by Bill Yenne.

  • @thomasadkins4024
    @thomasadkins4024 2 года назад +7

    Amazing graphics, and a hell of a story!

    • @WillyEckaslike
      @WillyEckaslike 2 года назад

      History would be a wonderful thing if only it were true...Tolstoy

  • @ondrejdobrota7344
    @ondrejdobrota7344 2 года назад

    The crucial is time here. there were multiple claims for LaGGs and those two mentioned were in totaly different times.

  • @southenglish1
    @southenglish1 2 года назад +8

    Actually, who cares how she died. It is how she lived and flew, to defend Mother Russia from the fascist invaders!

    • @paul123ggggggggg
      @paul123ggggggggg 2 года назад

      Spoken like a true leftist. Don't care about the truth or details as long as the story suits your needs. Too bad the Germans lost. Now we live in a world of men in dresses.

    • @southenglish1
      @southenglish1 2 года назад +2

      @@paul123ggggggggg Why is it so vitally important how she died? She died from shrapnel to the head, she died from bullet wounds., she died from crashing her plane into a fascist aircraft or she died from a massive coronary. What is the significance of her death to her life story and becoming a fighter ace? She died fighting the Fascist invaders. Koenig Friederick the Great liked men. The men at court during a later Koenigs reign like to dress-up in women's finery. Paul, the toxic male masculinity.

    • @paul123ggggggggg
      @paul123ggggggggg 2 года назад

      @@southenglish1 Mark, the biologically illiterate. Go put your dress on, Mark. Make cultural cleansing great again.

    • @southenglish1
      @southenglish1 2 года назад

      @@paul123ggggggggg Why the put downs and the negative comments? A scared little white man fearing he will be "replaced"?

    • @paul123ggggggggg
      @paul123ggggggggg 2 года назад

      @@southenglish1 As always, a leftist shows its true colors. You see leftist like yourself like to cry about equality and prejudice but display it at the same time as you have just done. And yes i am. The uncontrolled birth rate of savages is a threat to all civilized society combined with the forced acceptance of men in dresses like you. Im honest. despise them all. you feel the same about white conservatives...dont lie. we'll see how the future turns out.

  • @inkycat7167
    @inkycat7167 2 года назад

    She was probably shot down so the latter, i remember that they found the wreck, and it was mostly intact.

  • @linoantoniosaavedra9522
    @linoantoniosaavedra9522 2 года назад +1

    nice video!!!

  • @ВячеславШуркалин

    Это задание Наша Лилия выполнила - отогнала от наших ИЛ-ов сатанинских стервятников!

  • @billyoleary8291
    @billyoleary8291 2 года назад +1

    Good stuff.Thanks.

  • @jamesmordovancey517
    @jamesmordovancey517 2 года назад

    Why always say that the person dies in the first seconds of the video? Have you no sense of letting the story build? Disappointing story telling.

    • @ToastSamo
      @ToastSamo 2 года назад +1

      ITS hystory explained not a bulshit Hollywood drama movie.

  • @ИрмаБордаренко
    @ИрмаБордаренко 2 года назад +3

    Great job. Pay no attention to the prejudiced idiots who didn't even bother to study the system for confirming air victories in the Red Army Air Force.

  • @tswizard13
    @tswizard13 2 года назад +2

    Tail staggers do not take off from 3 point on ground. As soon as the aircraft starts down the runway the stick is pushed forward to lift the tail so when flying speed is reached the stick is pulled back and the plane leaves the ground.

  • @MrLemonbaby
    @MrLemonbaby 2 года назад

    Another winner vid, much enjoyed.

  • @VC27
    @VC27 Год назад

    The White Lily. Respect.

  • @kbrickell4732
    @kbrickell4732 2 года назад

    Dived down !!!, no Doved an dove is a bird

  • @JOHNSMITH-ym2dk
    @JOHNSMITH-ym2dk 2 года назад +6

    She was a hero for Oppression Regimes everywhere

    • @VovaSidorOff
      @VovaSidorOff Год назад

      She is a hero of freedom and liberty!

  • @АнтонДуховный-л3р

    War Thander ❤

  • @tomstarcevich1147
    @tomstarcevich1147 2 года назад

    Awesome 👍 thanks

  • @roybrowning6552
    @roybrowning6552 2 года назад +2

    What IS clear beyond any doubt is that she was shot down by a Me 109 and sent to her grave forever. There ended her short flight record. RIP-

  • @mysteriumxarxes3990
    @mysteriumxarxes3990 2 года назад

    sad

  • @conceptalfa
    @conceptalfa 2 года назад

    👍👍👍

  • @samwise7538
    @samwise7538 2 года назад

    Enjoyed that

  • @glennquagmire1747
    @glennquagmire1747 Год назад +1

    Play a man's game earn the Darwin award hahahahahaha

    • @CandyGirl44
      @CandyGirl44 Год назад

      You clearly have no idea there was a war on. Better come out from your mum's cellar and get into school 🙄🙄

  • @didierdenice7456
    @didierdenice7456 2 года назад +3

    I applaud your videos... but I really don't know where you get your sources from ... 🤔
    The story of Litvyak deserve to be told ... but people come up with ridiculous scores of 11 to 18 victories and this is TOTAL bullshit ! She is credited with 4 victories at the most. There is ZERO records other than that !

    • @sotocinematics
      @sotocinematics  2 года назад +3

      It is an estimate, Im not disputing that. I understand that she had 3-4 confirmed and some others unconfirmed or shared. I'm just stating what is commonly written.

    • @javasrevenge7121
      @javasrevenge7121 2 года назад +2

      Don`t forget that fe the Yak 3 was the best fighter during WW2, better than the mustang.

    • @brianwilcox3478
      @brianwilcox3478 2 года назад +2

      @@javasrevenge7121 at lower altitudes yes it was. And it excelled in that that is for sure. But it would have been vulnerable to attack from above due to its poor service ceiling

    • @WillyEckaslike
      @WillyEckaslike 2 года назад +1

      its wartime PG to boost the moral of the people...same with the Hall of Cost which the Soviets used as justification as to why 24m Russian people died and for what?

    • @WillyEckaslike
      @WillyEckaslike 2 года назад +2

      @@javasrevenge7121 what comic book have u been reading Ivan?

  • @constantinbaghici7279
    @constantinbaghici7279 Год назад

    Dislike for deleting my comment. You can't visualize fiction and collect just praise for it.

  • @hannibalbarca4372
    @hannibalbarca4372 2 года назад +6

    This beautiful young Lady should be an example of heroism for many male counterpart.

  • @chrisfitzmaurice7484
    @chrisfitzmaurice7484 2 года назад +6

    Interesting. There are three possibilities: Litvyak's story is true and she really was a female ace as claimed.
    Her record was exaggerated for propagand purposes.
    She was invented out of thin air by Soviet propaganda.
    They had a history of such things.

    • @bucketofbolts6823
      @bucketofbolts6823 2 года назад

      He Accualy shot down a German ace who survived till the end of of war and met litvyak
      So the strory is true

    • @АлександрШершнёв-р6с
      @АлександрШершнёв-р6с 2 года назад +1

      Подсчет побед в СССР был куда строже чем у Мюнхгаузенов из люфтфаффе

  • @JOHNSMITH-ym2dk
    @JOHNSMITH-ym2dk 2 года назад

    Sadly one of the main commanders of that base Lao had it out for her

  • @shimadwan8251
    @shimadwan8251 Год назад

    A true Russian hero...she didn't flinch when facing German Leopard Panther Tiger even with overwhelming odds

    • @kurtman752
      @kurtman752 Год назад

      Those are tank😂😂😂🤦🏻‍♂️jkss

  • @andrewmontgomery5621
    @andrewmontgomery5621 Год назад

    Happy International Women's Day

  • @wolfganggugelweith8760
    @wolfganggugelweith8760 2 года назад +4

    Brave German pilot!

  • @tom5051666
    @tom5051666 2 года назад

    total fantasy, not history

  • @23GreyFox
    @23GreyFox 2 года назад

    She was a good pilot but lacked any tactical knowledge.

    • @leoelokhine4959
      @leoelokhine4959 2 года назад

      ..nice watcher's comment...

    • @23GreyFox
      @23GreyFox 2 года назад

      @@leoelokhine4959 Stop being butt-hurt.

  • @paulh7798
    @paulh7798 Год назад

    3 - 18 victories? Hilarious. Probably only 3 confirmed, 15 fantasy.
    Erich Hartmann had 352 confirmed kills. 🤦‍♂

    • @sanescobar7738
      @sanescobar7738 Год назад

      Erich Hartman was a sci - fi writer. After the war , in late 90' when the road to document s from both side were open a historians took his credits score under investigation. Almost over 150 kills of Hartman was a pure of his imagination. War reports of casualties from Soviet side and German proved that "famous" Erich Hartman was a excellent example of pure Nazi liar.

    • @kurtman752
      @kurtman752 Год назад +1

      ​@@sanescobar7738yeah and you were there to confirm that Hartmann was lying eh boz🤡😂😂😂

    • @vadimpm1290
      @vadimpm1290 2 месяца назад

      @@kurtman752 Hartman wasn't lying, he simply had some adolescent fantasies, and propaganda maschine made use of his naivity. Note, I'm sure, he had been the great ace, but I really doubt the number of more than 350 planes shot down.

    • @kurtman752
      @kurtman752 2 месяца назад

      @@vadimpm1290 he shot down that many including mustangs ,Germans had strict kills confirmation recognition methods,it was a target rich environment,and the guy knew how to do his job, he was an ambush hunter, he never engaged from a disadvantage position exposing himself,he never lost a wingman,

  • @torsten811
    @torsten811 2 года назад +1

    I'm assuming the kill numbers aren't true. Russian propaganda without any evidence. Greetings Torsten

  • @Karakulimbro
    @Karakulimbro 2 года назад +17

    The material may be good, but the information about the "combat achievements" of the Soviet "aces" must be approached with reserve and caution. Many of these "aces" were just lying like all their propaganda

    • @luislugo1289
      @luislugo1289 2 года назад +6

      Which sources or references do you have? Does only soviets would do that? Why not germans or americans?

    • @Karakulimbro
      @Karakulimbro 2 года назад +1

      @@luislugo1289 While the Germans are known for their reliability, the Anglo-Saxons are not a problem either, the Soviet propaganda has always lied. I survived communism, so I know it well. People who do not know this should not ask stupid questions or demand proof immediately. This is not a preschool, unless you are still at this stage

    • @patwilson2546
      @patwilson2546 2 года назад +6

      I'm not going to say "lie" as that implies an intentional untruth. However, claims, including "confirmed", were vastly overstated. You fire at somebody, his plane belches black smoke, and dives, it's recorded on gun camera - kill. Except what really happened is he firewalled the throttle and did a split-s and went home. The numbers don't lie - actual losses are a fraction of awarded victories. Over claiming was just a thing that happened when people try to kill each other at over 300 MPH.
      I think that it is possible to respect the bravery without worrying too much about the exact numbers. Litvak probably didn't shoot down 11. Hartmann probably didn't shoot down 352. Johnson probably didn't shoot down 28. Doesn't matter. They were all highly respected pilots who did their job extremely well.
      As for lying Russian propaganda - I'm not too thrilled with Russia either, but I am not going to let that reflect on a person who died almost 60 years ago. Litvak was not on the wrong side of history the way that Russian soldiers in Ukraine are today.

    • @Karakulimbro
      @Karakulimbro 2 года назад +4

      @@patwilson2546 You know buddy, you obviously don't know the realities of life in the Soviet version of communism, so explaining anything to you is like Don Quichotte's fight against windmills.
      Of course, neither do you know the Soviet female pilot, but all these "achievements" of her are highly debatable in my opinion. By the way - the planes of the coalition and the Luftwaffe planes had cameras mounted, after pressing the trigger they recorded the course of the fight. I do not know the fact that any Soviet aircraft have such devices (technological gap).
      Russian soldiers are the same victims of the war, and Russian civilians are also killed by gunfighters. So I do not share your delight.

    • @patwilson2546
      @patwilson2546 2 года назад +3

      @@Karakulimbro WTF did my post have to do with life in the Soviet Union? Damn, the internet is a cesspit.

  • @sangdopalri349
    @sangdopalri349 2 года назад +6

    Soviet fake propaganda

    • @luislugo1289
      @luislugo1289 2 года назад +6

      XD. Propaganda exists in all sides, not only soviets.

    • @paul123ggggggggg
      @paul123ggggggggg 2 года назад +4

      @@luislugo1289 youre missing the point. this is an outright lie.

    • @WillyEckaslike
      @WillyEckaslike 2 года назад +1

      just like the Hall of Cost..made in Russia (no historian today says that any camps in Germ many were X centres.....the Rusians had 45 yrs until the fall of the Iron Curtain to manufacture the evidence about the camps in Pole land

    • @vadimpm1290
      @vadimpm1290 2 месяца назад

      @@paul123ggggggggg what is the outright lie? Litvyak's victory over the ace, who had confirmed it? Isn't it the same thing for you, as to call yoursef imbecile?

  • @charlieboffin2432
    @charlieboffin2432 2 года назад

    Not the right time to be posting anything glorifying Russians I'm afraid, thumbs down from me 👎

  • @kurtman752
    @kurtman752 Год назад

    I guess her brains got smeared all over her cockpit before crashing to the ground

    • @vadimpm1290
      @vadimpm1290 2 месяца назад

      @kurtman752, let's stop with this misogyny, otherwise It's starting to look like you have problems with women

    • @vadimpm1290
      @vadimpm1290 2 месяца назад

      Now, after removing my comment, It's ckear, you really do have problems if that kind

  • @thomashahn4425
    @thomashahn4425 2 года назад

    Weg damit.

  • @MANGOL-SHUDAN
    @MANGOL-SHUDAN 2 года назад

    Я щитаю что мы ещё не спели гимн , о силе воли и храбрости наших войнов , сынов и дочерей и нам предстоит это зделать

    • @rodezirkel9
      @rodezirkel9 2 года назад

      Есть реквием Роберта Рождественского.

    • @constantinbaghici7279
      @constantinbaghici7279 Год назад +1

      Попробуй еще раз написать, - только без ошибок.

  • @sinner5974
    @sinner5974 2 месяца назад

    These were babies.. like 20 years old barely even started to live. What a fucked up world we been living in