Maria Christina and Isabella of Parma fall in love (Maria Theresia s03e01)

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  • Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
  • Joseph II's new wife, Isabella of Parma, gets closer to her sister-in-law, Maria Christina, and their relationship turns more than friendship.
    Maria Theresia (2017) season 3 episode 1

Комментарии • 35

  • @N.A.S101
    @N.A.S101 22 дня назад +63

    Everyone just saw their relationship as 'friendly' and did not really mind it. The only one who was actually suspicious was Maria Christina's elder sister Maria Anna

    • @PeacefulScooter-fk1lm
      @PeacefulScooter-fk1lm 18 дней назад +3

      Well they have a nickname for each other one of the Greek myth love story couple

  • @aliciabruder1106
    @aliciabruder1106 22 дня назад +40

    As soon as she started drawing I instantly thought of, “draw me like one of your French girls.” That’s pretty much what happened and confirmed to me when it cuts to her muse.

    • @Ali-sc4yn
      @Ali-sc4yn 18 дней назад +1

      😂 I thought that as well !

    • @thebullqueen
      @thebullqueen 4 дня назад +1

      I thought about that scene from Titanic too 😅

  • @sebastianazocar2368
    @sebastianazocar2368 22 дня назад +29

    Just like it was gonna happen, Isabella felt in love to Maria Christina. It was said that she loved her more than Joseph. Only in her difficult times, she trusted in her sister in law to confess it and had more times happier with Christina.

  • @MarinaKaFai
    @MarinaKaFai 22 дня назад +6

    I love that they adapted it!

  • @gintasasd
    @gintasasd 21 день назад +19

    i kinda dislike that they didin't really show her real feelings she found same-sex attraction that she considered sinful, made her unhappy. but they show her being all for it i think if they made her kinda struggle with it that be more accurate then saying fuck it lets go after all she was wayyyyy more complexs person then this

    • @Lily1127channel
      @Lily1127channel  20 дней назад +15

      She was way more complex in a lot of ways. Like, she was an early feminist who had writings about women's equal rights but in the court she had to hide this about herself to fit in and please her husband.
      Well, this is a tv series about Maria Theresa, not Maria Christina or Isabella, so they don't show things in many details that are not directly related to Maria Theresa. Considering that, what we get from this relationship is already a lot.

  • @Ceibhfhionn
    @Ceibhfhionn 21 день назад +6

    YES! I'm so glad this bit of history was not suppressed.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 22 дня назад +2

    Love your content lili! Thanks For this ❤❤❤❤

  • @sebastianazocar2368
    @sebastianazocar2368 22 дня назад +13

    We know that in the past, Maria Theresa gossiped about Frederick The Great’s homosexuality, well, now she will see in the flesh with the strange relationship between her daughter and her daughter in law, Isabella is one example of LGBT in royalty like James I, Philip I of Orleans or Frederick The Great himself.

  • @eugeniedelamotte-foque3231
    @eugeniedelamotte-foque3231 19 дней назад +4

    Please can anyone tell me what piece of music played in this video? Thank you!

  • @betsy1399
    @betsy1399 22 дня назад +8

    Did Jospeh ever knew about this?

    • @carolsainz7556
      @carolsainz7556 22 дня назад

      I hope so ❤❤

    • @betsy1399
      @betsy1399 22 дня назад

      Was he okay with it?

    • @sweethistortea
      @sweethistortea 22 дня назад +11

      I don think he ever caught on, but I think he would have felt hurt that his wife possibly loved his sister instead of him.

    • @Lily1127channel
      @Lily1127channel  22 дня назад +17

      I think he never truly knew it, or at least he was subconsciously blind to it. Otherwise he would have been very hurt and jealous. He loved his wife and cared for her so much. He was even with her during labor, which was very extreme back then.

    • @betsy1399
      @betsy1399 22 дня назад +1

      ​@@Lily1127channelDid his wife have some care for him at least? Or was it all just pretend on her part?

  • @Wenchework
    @Wenchework 22 дня назад +8

    In real life this is debated if happend or not however the two sisters in law were extreamly close and bonded that is known

    • @Lily1127channel
      @Lily1127channel  22 дня назад +15

      I think it will never be perfectly certain how far their relationship went, but their correspondence is full of love declarations and even very naughty sexual references. It also contains that they felt some guilt and shame for "something that goes against nature", and Maria Theresa also disapproved of their relationship after a while, because Isabella was "more a wife to Maria Christina than to Joseph", to the extent that MT feared it harmed their marital relationship.

  • @aether3697
    @aether3697 22 дня назад

    Oh, she's the tomboy among the siblings?

  • @jahirareyes1102
    @jahirareyes1102 22 дня назад +6

    I wonder how accurate this is in full .I do know, this story about Isabella of Parma and Maria Christina story, but i remember Isabella of Parma had evidence of these feelings and attachment to Maria Christina, but on Maria Christina part i don't remember any evidence in part from her side of any type of romantic love really.Also,i do think it is good to not be anachronistic and how Isabella of Parma would really feel after all people in this era were quite religious, to varying extents so,i do believe Isabella of Parma would have perhaps felt conflicted in her feelings also because she is married and Maria Christina i don't remember there being much evidence of her feelings towards Isabella of Parma to be romantic,

    • @Lily1127channel
      @Lily1127channel  22 дня назад +14

      It is said that it was Isabella who approached MC and initiated the things between them, but MC was fully willing participant too who returned her feelings. So it kinda sounds the opposite of what this tv series shows, with MC being the one who initiates everythibg and Isabella opening up shyly and gradually. I think it will never be perfectly certain how far their relationship went, but their correspondence is full of love declarations and even very naughty sexual references. It also contains that they felt some guilt and shame for "something that goes against nature", and Maria Theresa also disapproved of their relationship after a while, because Isabella was "more a wife to Maria Christina than to Joseph", to the extent that MT feared it harmed their marital relationship.
      After Isabella's death, MC was extremely devastated.

    • @calliefinck6275
      @calliefinck6275 22 дня назад

      Plus the court of Austria was more discreet

    • @jahirareyes1102
      @jahirareyes1102 22 дня назад +3

      @@Lily1127channel Ohh i see .Thanks for informing me about this.Cause,i remember that Maria Christina on the other hand compared to Isabella of Parma was much more reluctant and far more secretive about the affair. she did have affection for Isabella . I don't believe any letters by Maria Christina survived, apart from a character description of Isabella.But,i remember she was devastated by Isabella's death.

    • @Ceibhfhionn
      @Ceibhfhionn 21 день назад +1

      You might like Jessica Kellgren-Fozard's video about their history.

  • @orosiaabadias5876
    @orosiaabadias5876 18 дней назад

    Me parece improbable cualquier relación de ese tipo en la Corte de su suegra....

    • @Lily1127channel
      @Lily1127channel  18 дней назад

      Su relación fue realidad. Hay mucha evidencia de ella.

  • @lauraalba7151
    @lauraalba7151 День назад +1

    I like Leo better

  • @GabrielaGARAYREYES
    @GabrielaGARAYREYES 22 дня назад

    😮😮😮😮😂😢