I Teach DIY'er the RIGHT WAY TO WATERPROOF A SHOWER
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2023
- The homeowner installed his shower very wrong the first time he tried it. Mismatched and inconsistent grout joints, incorrect waterproofing, wrong adhesive (mastic) used, shower tile sloped the wrong way, and no edge or Schluter trim on the tiles. I made a video detailing all of his mistakes and he agreed to do it in order to help out other viewers who may be trying to tile their own shower. If you would like to see that video click the link here:
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For other helpful video links on shower drain installation and waterproofing:
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One of your BEST videos so far. Mainly because you're guiding an inexperienced person and giving him tips on what he's doing wrong with his technique. This is invaluable for those of us DIYing a bathroom. Watching you work as a professional doesn't cue us into mistakes we amateurs would make to the same degree.
I agree ! Issac is an excellent video commentator and instructor, when he is not doing the install. This is a differnet technique and I would suggest very valuable to all his followers.
Eric does a great job, follows instructions well, listens and performs.
You know how many of these channels get popular off its watchers and once they get big they dont give you the time of day!!!!! PRACTICALLY ALL OF THEM... Credit to Tilecoach for giving back!!!
Heard!
Im sure that guy knows, but he is very lucky to have coach right there giving instructions! That would be any Tile DIY'ers dream!
You have the heart of a teacher to take the time to help someone in need. Bless you Isaac
As a General contractor I am amazed by the lack of knowledge so many tradesmen have. I can't tell you how many times I have had to tell subs how to do the job correctly! I started out in high school building rentals for my dad , then worked for a remodeling contractor ( who did every trade in house) for two years and by then I was running the crew. I got my license and started my own buisness shortly there after. I have vast knowledge in every trade and am very meticulous with my work and so very proud of it. There is no reason anybody should screw up a job when youtube is available to learn! Keep up the video's ! My suggestion would be to always use color matched caulk at the seams( there will always be movement, settling etc.) and put membrane on shower floor first before the perimeter bands. I really don't like the concept of using thinset in between because it gets wet and wicks water, so I use the liquid /caulk warerproofing method
I still hot mop and float at times. Never had a singe call back on any of my jobs and been licensed since 1993!!!!!
its great that the homeowner was willing to be taught and go back to try to do it right with your help. love these videos keep up the great work
It's very rare that I comment on youtube videos or reviews and I am compelled to express my gratitude for what Tile Coach brings the the DIY'er scene. I am just embarking on a huge bathroom remodel with a 62x62 zero entry doorless
shower and much more. I have dug through countless youtube videos and I can say without hesitation you are a straight shooter, genuine and thorough. I appreciate you and your team for all you do. I will visit your merch and store and help out where I can. Thank you kindly
Cant wait to receive your phone call!
I agree with you 💯%. I couldn't have said it any better myself. 👏
The amount of patience you have to wacth some work so slowly 🐌 is crazy.
I am impressed with Eric! With alittle bit of knowledge it’s amazing what a person who has talent can do.
He certainly has talent. Thanks to people like you who are so supportive!
I really liked this video. There is something different between watching you do something correctly and telling us how to do it and allowing someone else do it with similar experience to us and then coaching him to do it properly. Huge thanks.
Also, props to Eric for getting out and being videoed through the process. Thanks Eric!
Another very instructive video. I hope potential DIY'ers and tile pros as well appreciate all the footwork you have done for them.
GREAT VIDEO. Watching a hands-on beginner while getting expert instruction through the process is so helpful. Often when pros install they forget to identify the difficulties because they don't have them or they don't want to show them. Those who watch learn from seeing mistakes, but teaching while letting someone else do the work is the key. Hope you post a video of laying the tile on floor and walls. Thank you.
Such a great video!! I’m so glad he’s getting your wonderful help and support. You’re the best coach ever with committed students!!
This is by far the best channel for tiling and shower systems. Thanks for the content
This is a great video. I like the format of a DIY'er doing the work while you instruct in real time. Kudos also to Eric being humble enough to be on camera after making a big mistake. Sometimes we learn the hard way. Me included. Im currently re doing my shower in the sacramento area too. sighting your video on redgaurd and custom shower pan and other videos.
YES! Something Ive needed to see coach, thank you.
Hi Isaac, I'm a DIY'er and long time viewer of the channel. After a year of watching your videos, I tackled my first tiling project; a shower/bath remodel. I've done plumbing, electrical, carpentry, landscaping, and the hardest by far is tiling. Tilers earn every dollar they get paid and then some. I've learned so much from you and I still made mistakes (some things you can only learn through experience). What I don't understand, however, is how you stay so clean through all your videos! LOL.
Why not fully overlap the corners with the long strips? Too much build up? If you cut them even slightly too short won't there be a possible gap for a leak? By the way great video! One of the best.
They are overlapped, by 2". The corner pieces go 4" out from the corner and are already double layer from the outside corner band or corner band for 2" out from corner, the extra 2" is where that overlap happens keeping it at 2 layers and keeping a 2" overlap as required by these systems.
No way I could be on my knees like that the whole time 😳. Brought back memories when I redid my entire master bathroom with Schluter system. Great work!!
You da man Eric.
Took your lumps, came out 10x better on the other side.
T. C. - Your straight shooting creates trust and friendships. We make friends, not clients.
Great video as always ! I just bought 2 of your flo fx drains and I am going to build my own deck mud shower pan following your video with the ledger board. Thank you for all your videos !!
Pretty cool concept....I like it.
Shouldn’t there be a two inch overlap over the corner tape?
Exactly.
the iPhone wallpaper reminding Isaac is married is one of the funnier things I've seen today! Youre a riot Isaac
I've been waiting for this one! Wondered if you guys ended up coming back
Good job coach
Nice work Eric!
He learned fast. If his home has another shower, he will probably be able to knock it out on his own.
Gr8 teacher ! Thx for sharing
Great work. I'm on my way to do my shower. I just subscribed 👍
Such a great video, if you could hand pick a tiler to learn the trade from it would be Isaac 100%, you can see he actually enjoys teaching people the correct methods, patience, good sense of humour, just a great guy, very enjoyable and educational watching these videos 👍🏼👌🏼
He honestly didn’t do too bad for someone that installed a shower with mastic 😳 haha. No shade. Everything is a learning experience. Great job coach.
This is great
He’s damn good for someone that’s never troweled thinset or laid membrane.
Thats awesome ! Thanks for supporting diy .. or di-try in our case haha
My four keys to a lifetime shower:
1. No cementitious substrates, period. Not the walls not the slope.... nowhere. It’s 2024 and there are waaay better choices that do not become 200 pound sponges with daily use.
2. Proper monolithic waterproofing. All seams, all penetrations. The tile and grout are there for aesthetics and clean-ability only.
3. Proper ventilation. Something that never gets mention in any of the top tile channels on YT. Train the grout and tile to dry to the air, not into the substrates. 300 cfm in-line ventilators will work for most bathrooms, on a digital timer that can be set to run 30-60 minutes beyond the time it takes to take a shower. THIS IS CRITICAL.
4. No bleach-based, ammonia-based or anhydrous cleaners (which is 90% of the cleaning market). Plant-based cleaners only. To assist with this, customer needs to train themselves to squeegee after every shower and towel off the fixtures. It’s worth it!
The video the world needed but didn't know it.
Great to see you teaching a DIY'R, I am surprised in the US you haven't adopted flexible membranes more and stick with thin set application, I know you have Red Guard and there sems to be problems with that product, in Australia we solely use Class III flexible membranes for waterproofing, much easier to apply, if done properly they will last 20-30 years or more, maybe you still have "step 2" to do which is membrane application ?
I’ve watched a lot of your videos. Good information! Everything so far has been shower related. Can you do a video on large format tiles (24x48”) as kitchen countertops? Very concerned with how you would prepare the structure and surface for the tile… Thanks
Thanks bro
I wish customers would understand why using these pre-made pans are so good. No one wants to spend more on material even if the final product will end up better.
MUCH CREDIT TO TILECOACH!!!! For giving back to it's watchers the people who made him grow....DO NOT see this often!
Please teach a prefab shower pan installation video!
I hope you made a video of the actual tiling, as well!
I thought you discovered in your tests that Kerdi Fix does not create a waterproof bond with Kerdi membrane? Looks like Kerdi Fix on the niche.
I’m going to try and do my own tub to shower conversation. Love this channel. Do you have any videos explaining the height of the drain compared to the tile? I’ve seen some but the drain cap looks flush to tile before thinset and I’m so confused and scared im going to screw it up lol
Eric is a fast learner.
Thank you for doing what you do. I have learned a lot. I am wondering if you have any experience with kbrs shower pans. It looks like a great product diy projects. Any info on this product would be greatly appreciated.
Hi Isaac, thank you for your great teaching. I have a question for you. I have to lay 24x24 (3x8) tiles with Mapei-modified cement with a 1/2x1/2 trowel. Considering your great skill, once completed that, what would be the approximate thickness of the tile plus the cement after the back-and-forth compression during the laying (3/8 tile + ciment) = ?. Thank you
André
The bands should have went almost all the way into the corners.
The corners are literally designed so you don't have to go to the corner to avoid buildup...
@sampon9328 Supposed to be a minimum 2 inch overlap to any gaps. Water can get through where the corner and band meet because its not overlapping. I don't see anything about the design that would prevent that. They are the same as schluter.
hence the ears on the corners being over 2" so you dont need to go to the corners.@@mrscott01
corners from any brand will tell you that right in the instructions. I've 24hr flood tested plenty of showers installed this way.@@mrscott01
Does it matter if you put the inside corners after the banding along wall?
Hi, been watching a lot of these videos. I did purchase a FloFx drain. I have a question with using it on subfloor and water proofing. Thought I would put down plastic and chicken wire. Then Dry pack. After that not sure what the best membrane is. I’m using 2x4’s and cement board for the curb. Like to do a roll on membrane feel like it’s easier with some thin set and tape. Or should I be using a membrane sheet. I also seen video of using membrane sheet under the dry pack. I don’t know if that has to do with the type of drain. Enjoy the videos thanks.
why do you need to waterproof along side the step if it is a one piece pan as that seems to be unnecessary for a one piece vs a two piece
Awesome video man! Is there a reason you’re not overlapping the wall banding over the corner banding?
Not sure what you are referring to
You guys used shluter allset on top of the self leveler? It looked a lot darker then the shluter all set?
Why is not being told to key in first
Thats what im talking about!!
Do you come back over the seams with liquid waterproofing membrane?
So, will you also apply RedGuard or Ardex 8+9 for waterproofing??
Inside band doesn’t overlap the corner aids on the curb?
No way!!
I'm late night tiling right now !
Didn't know allset was gray
If I have a plywood subfloor - would I thin-set a RSS foam pan right to it? Or would that be a situation where felt paper would be stapled down first?
Thanks to anyone who can confirm.
This comment is about a job you did about 4 years ago. It was called Grandpa Bath. Two questions. First, on the glass tiles you had to fill in the individual pieces on the left and right edge. Can you buy individual pieces or did you have to cut those from tile squares? The second question was about the pencil tile you used as a perimeter around the glass tile. I wondered if the joints would have looked better if they were lined up with the subway tiles. Just wondering.
You mentioned he failed previously failed with a Vevo pan. What caused the failure? Is the Vevo pan a definite no go and why?
Is it possible to make that shower pan and curb completely out of concrete and then tile over it? I’m wondering why that isn’t done instead of using these synthetic materials 🤔
So why didn’t you overlap the bands into the corners? Wouldn’t that add just a tad bit more security to the waterproofing?
What kind of wallboard and membrane?
What shower system is that
Have you tried the Revolutionary Shower System Pro pan? Any thoughts on that?
I just installed the RSS Pro Pan and it is awesome. So glad I went with it compared to the HD. The Pro Pan has cut-outs along the edges to set the foam cement walls into and then you can use the RSS Sealant where the pan meets the walls and you don't have to use any of the banding at all. The HD Pan does not have the cutouts so you have to use the banding which is a lot more work in my opinion. I found it worth the extra cost over the HD.
for the foam pan, is the inside seam on the integrated curb not already waterproof?
I can't believe it took someone so long to notice that! I was busy filming and forgot that seam was already done!
How do you mix all set with a cordless drill it’s hard on a mixing drill
Do it all the time with my Milwaukee. Never an issue 💪🏻
If all of your channels made by your trowel don't line up, how do you get enough air out? I have noticed before on other videos where you have intersecting channels. There is a video where a guy showed how you can't possibly collapse the channels with intersecting lines. He used glass to show the trapped air. Shouldn't this be a bigger concern? I always make sure my channels go unimpeded to get my coverage on the back of my work. My EDIT: Not speaking about the fabric application so much as with the one piece foam and other tile videos.
I probably would have overlapped the band onto the corners
Call me crazy, but i thought you Always preach a pre-slope? If anything fails on the thinset or drain, are there holes just above the self leveler to receive any drainage, or you're just hoping nothing ever leaks through?
Things I appreciate about this video:
1. We see how easy it is for a DIY to go wrong.
2. You show us why the DIY went wrong.
3. You showed him how to do it right.
4. We got to see exactly how fast it's likely to go when you have an inexperienced person doing this. You do this with lightning speed because you've been doing this for years, the technique is muscle memory for you. When we do it at home, we should expect it to take 4x longer than anything you do.
Lol you don’t need to be a artist trying to paint the Mona Lisa lol
I’ve done maybe 100 tile showers, I’d still rather pay you to do it 🤫
No matter what you do it seems like showers only last 10 years, very hard to control water, who had the bright idea to take a shower inside?
Just go head and 1099 the dude and get him in the work truck.
121:25 i don't like the RSS-wall-Bord because ittt's so lootd, Koordi-Brordis much more silently wen applications of the deunset is haping and it luks not sor dark.
Talk about teaching a man to fish!
For some reason I felt like I was watching a porn flick. Idk
every shower you do you use kirdy board, never ever used that stuff and I have been doing showers in Arizona and Colorado for years. Why not do a shower video without using that over priced german garbage?