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Well… moving twice within 12 months is pretty expensive for someone living off his channel. Let the man earn some money on his channel. It’s like TV. If you don’t like the station’s ads, grab the remote. If we like specific entertainment, it’s fair to pay the entertainer with either our money or our attention. If we’re choosing the attention route, and the entertainer has gathered enough attention, they have a right to leverage our attention to those that wish to sell the fruits of their effort as well in exchange for money. This is how entertainers put food on the table. Especially on a public medium. This is all fair game, and he’s smart to do it. It wasn’t too long of an ad break. Entertainers know that they risk losing attention if they’re not entertaining. Perhaps consider cutting him some slack. The BluRay cost money too. No Internet. He’s jumping through costly hoops just recording and uploading.
Wrecks me every single time... It is amusing to see how overwhelmingly missed it is... that we have three visits to Harrow's office, and a different identity in each one. We met Jake and didn't even realize it
As for the "laughably cartoonish" Hippo... that's just what she's supposed to look like. The director himself is Egyptian and has been very open and put as much of his culture in the show as possible. And you wouldn't wanna fuck up the cultural as well as mythological presentation when you're Marvel at this point.
That's true. They do point out how ridiculous it feels in the show, but she's really well portrayed/designed to be accurate. Not every egyptian god is a mummy bird skeleton
I have a degree in Psychology. It's actually pretty accurate that people who exhibit Dissociative Identity Disorder usually experienced some kind of abuse or traumatic experiences as a child. This led me to predict the kind of childhood the original personality had. Also, I wonder if it was actually the 3rd personality that took the abuse which might account for his apparent violent behaviors at the beginning of episode 3 when they both blackout and also why Steven doesn't remember his abusive mother.
Oscar Isaac is the best addition to the mcu since rdj. His acting in this episode was fantastic. Also whatever mark is seeing is real in a certain sense. Tawaret made mention of the ancestral plane which is a direct shout out to black panther. The afterlife is basically how the person going through it expects it to be in the MCU. In black planther, kill monger had his dad's apartment, tchala had the whole tree with the former kings of wakanda and for Mark it happens to be a psych ward.
Do you think we'll see him again after this series? Especially if the asylum is the "real" thing that's happening and not him being an actual superhero (which is sad).
@@stephatflashpoint I’ve been thinking bout that! Mark/ Moon Knight was just in Uk…Blade (his voice) was in London at the end of Eternals with Whitman/Black Knight. Can’t wait to see where they might go with these characters!
6:35 I hope you saw how Tawaret was needed in that episode Jen. She's so cute and the only 'joyful' element of the whole episode. At least I was glad she was there as the little ray of sunshine
They said it at one point in the episode. Dr. Harrow was a coping mechanism to help them calm down so they can face the truth of the situation. Notice how after every freakout they were transported to his office and once they accepted the situation somewhat they were back in the thick of it
We have one episode left, but Oscar Isaac was phenomenal with this show. His portrayal in this particular episode left me in an emotional wreck. Whatever goes down in the next episode will come full curcle.
Yah that still boogles my mind that how are they gonna finish it in one episode and why is it only 6 usually its 8 or 9 episodes from all the series now a days.
@@blessanabey8386 I guess maybe to save money and see marvel fans reaction to the series first idk. They'll probably set up bigger projects for oscar isaac
@@BoObOo-md5vg Idk they said it's a one and done series but no confirmation yet so far...Oscar Isaac said he won't do any wasted characters like he need to show his acting range like this I guess ,maybe he learned that from star wars. But who knows, they might do it so far this show is doing great aside from small hiccups.
@@blessanabey8386 Guessing some things will be left for other projects. We'll probably have a final battle with Harrow and fixing things up with Leyla. And third personality will probably be heavily teased in the last episode with the show ending Marc and Steven trying to figure out who he is and how to talk to him.
@@secretchiley yah and i feel like mark should know him since he created steven, mark is the original why does he not remember that, maybe konshu did something to his mind idk, pretty interesting stuff, and most importantly since that personality isn't resolved like mark and Steven why did the feather got balanced before that🤔
i realized steven is the one making jokes, and really the only one doing it. which makes sense considering he came to be as a coping mechanism for trauma
"Atleast the dad is supportive." No. A good parent has to be a lot more than supportive, especially when the other parent is abusing the child. The good parent needs to be protective. They have to fight in your defence, or they are complicit in the abuse.
You try losing your youngest son and then watching your wife mentally disintegrate and see if you don't try to cling to some hope that you might not lose her as well if you can just convince her to get the help that she needs. You feel broken and helpless by what she is doing to your other son but you truly believe, right or wrong, that leaving her or having her arrested will do her much more harm than good and that your other son will be much better off still having his mother in his life if she can just get some help. You try being in that position and having the strength of will and presence of mind to do what a monday-morning quarterback thinks that he ought to do.
Personally, I thought the hippo “hi!” At the end of ep 4 was a very much needed release of tension. The whole episode had been steadily increasing in tension all throughout and it desperately needed something to break. With just that one word, it prepped the viewers to reset at the beginning of the next episode so it would still have that powerful emotional progression. I think that keeping the viewer in that super heightened state of unease and tension for a whole week would actually lessen the impact of what happened in ep 5 since it would allow as much of a buildup to the extremely emotional aspects here.
😂 *Egyptian moon god and his avatar change the stars back in time* Jen: woah that was really cool *an Egyptian goddess meets Marc and Steven in an afterlife* Jen: this is marvel being sloppy
I feel like Jen is the type of person who needs information handed to her on a platter as opposed to inferring things on your own which is totally okay. Every persons brain works differently. I personally like the mystery and trying to put things together on my own. Donnie Darko is the only thing I have ever watched where I rewatched it three times in a row because my brain could not compute what I just watched haha.
Steven’s accent: The Steven alter made up the accent. And since Marc is American, there was no experience speaking the language natively. It’s a part of the DID aspect of the character to have an unconvincing English accent. :-)
Realistically someone with DID who has a split whom uses a different accent wouldn't be very convincing. I believe Oscar Isaac's accent is good. And I believe they did that because a cheesy accent would fall flat or be too real for this show, either way it just wouldn't work. The more practiced professional accent makes Steven a much more "Alive" character
@@paulgibbons1366 ORIGINALLY it was based off of the old TV hero, but since Steven moved to London, that accent will have slowly morphed into something more authentic. (Hell, we saw how quickly Wanda Gained an American accent when she was actively trying to blend in and assimilate the culture).
So basically, if Jen doesn’t understand it, it just doesn’t work or “fit”? Lol “the Egyptians made ships”? Ohh Jen, bless your little heart. If you only knew…
Steven accepted that he was also Marc right there at the end, he started fighting, and he got Marc to accept that the death of his brother wasn't his fault. They opened up to each other, which got them closer to balancing out then Steven got dropped from the equation.
I liked how they explained that this is not "The afterlife" but "A afterlife" and also naming the Ancestral plain (from Black Panther) Also in ep 3 one of the gods explains that mankind lost faith/interest in the Egyptian gods, which is why Tawaret says "its been a while since a soul traveled through here" as not many people believe in that anymore I assume Hel (Mentioned in Thor) is also a variation of an afterlife
For simplicity, him getting shot is our reality. The pysche ward is the afterlife. As the hippo says it's different for everyone. She brought up the ancestral plane which is the black panther afterlife. Since he's so knowledgeable on Egyptian mythology, thats why his ancestral plane is based on it. Layla as stated in the episode is our reality where mark is shot and needs her to free Konshu so the moon knight suit can return and heal the gun shot wounds. 😊
@@urbent3147 that's why it's labeled.. for simplicity.. how bout we chat on Dr strange. I'll see you in a week. Cuz I think it's gonna be a let down unless it's post credit scene is a wtf?
I believe Dr. Harrow in the asylum, like Jeff Lemire comic this part of the story it's based off of, it's designed to help him. The other section is designed to look into his past directly, while this is to bring a sense of reality and embrace it.
The fake Harrow even describes how what he’s experiencing is swings between reality & delusion, as his mind seeks to reject the difficult & scary reality with a safe delusion. It just turns out that “I’m just insane, in a psych ward, and Harrow is a therapist I don’t like” was the comforting illusion.
I have never read the comics but I felt the same. Everything in his ancestral plane is a projection of his mind, including Dr Harrow. So definitely he's not the bad guy here, he's just what it says he is - a doctor. He's trying to help Marc.
Hippo seems very MCU when you remember there's a talking raccoon and a big green monster running around in the same universe. Also with Layla. Based on what's told in previous episodes it seems Marc first sought her out because of his guilty conscience of being there when her dad was killed. Then we assume they fell in love and got married. Then probably started excavating dig sites looking for that magic scarab and probably other things. Then when Marc found out Khonshu was considering replacing him with her he pushed her away and tried to divorce her to keep her safe.
For Khonshu, it's rather in character for him to do change the sky. It's the same god that did a solar eclipse just to get the other God's attentions instead of just calling for a meeting, who practically yells when the other Gods are just speaking normally and not harming their avatars. He is that petty, reckless and flawed with unresolved family issues and have bad ideas, so the whole sky thing may also be another way for him to once again raise his metaphorical middle fingers at the other Gods who kicked him out. And once again it is much faster than driving to a cafe, logging in, opening the website, getting familiar with the interface and trying to get the coordinates at pin point accuracy by the millimeter.
For some reason, Jen calling the hippo "laughable" rubs me a little the wrong way. The hippo is and acts extremely accurately to Egyptian culture and myth. Wouldn't want to fuck that up and anger a whole culture of people. Also, we already have a talking Raccoon 🤷🏾♂️
I have never felt this impressed and/or heartbroken by a Marvel origin story since WandaVision episode 8. Also, that shot where Marc was lying underneath Khonshu’s statue was perfectly comic accurate. And I think they’ve said they’re not making a season 2 for Moon Knight, unfortunately.
@@changhyon92 yeah I wouldn't be surprised if Blade or someone else pops up at the post-credits scene of episode 6 or something like that. I don't think it's a coincidence Blade is getting a movie, Black Knight (Dane Whitman from Eternals) has been recently introduced, Werewolf by Night is getting a special show later this year... they're setting up some kind of supernatural team, probably Midnight Sons from the comics
Oscar Isaac ONLY signed on for this one series. Of course, that doesn't mean that he might not reprise Moon Knight at a later date (we can only hope). But keep in mind that in the past, Disney/Marvel has locked people down with contracts when they knew there was a good possibility that they wanted to use that actor again. And that has not happened this time. So I am actually a little nervous that maybe there are no immediate plans for including Oscar Isaac in MCU projects in the near future. Which then makes me nervous about where Moon Knight is heading for episode 6. Remember that Mark/Steven is only the CURRENT Moon Knight. I would not put it past Kevin Feige to, for example, have Layla try to rescue Khonshu and have to agree to be the new Avatar/Moon Knight in exchange for Mark and Steven's life. While Feige certainly has respect for the comics and tries to keep to their spirit, he is not rigidly beholden to their stories and substance and has been known to make changes to keep things unpredictable.
I'm becoming more and more confident after rewatching the episode that the scene at the beginning of episode 5 with "Marc" with injuries all over his face where he grabs a desk item to defend himself is actually Jake Longley the usual third personality of Moon Knight because I'm pretty sure in that scene he had a Chicago accent while also being obviously very violent.
@@TessaxMusic95 Yeah it absolutely might have been I'm Australian so my American accent knowledge or whatever obviously isn't that great but I figured because the most of the American scenes are set in that area it was some kind of accent similar to a Chicago one
@@dankerbell Yeah i guess that might be true or maybe they're giving the third personality a different name so they technically wouldn't be wrong I just feel that that whole sequence felt too weirdly out of place to just be Marc with what we've already also seen in the show
Marc got booted from the military in a feuge state, so unless it was Steven Jake makes the most sense. I feel like Steven and Marc will reconcile, just for Jake to pop up at the end of the finale.
I'm amazed by Oscar Isaac's performance in this show. Having to balance so many emotions between 2 completely different characters, plus all the action. I'm so excited for the finale. Can't wait
I’m not one to cry, especially for a movie or show but this episode got a tear from me because of how relatable it was. Oscar Isaac is moon knight like RDJ is Iron Man
The Taweret character makes sense… she’s in the first episode. Steven picks up a big box of cute plush Tawerets in the gift shop. It makes sense that he’s seeing her as friendly and cute.
Apparently the writers had been sitting around a table talking about the show, and there was a picture of all the Egyptian gods there. The head writer couldn't stop looking at Tawaret. A few days in, he told the other writers "we have to figure out how to work this hippo into the show." They all laughed and continued working, but he was like, "no, seriously, I have to put Tawaret into the show. We're going to do it." And so they did.
Marc was already Moonknight when he met Layla . he hid the truth about her father from her but it was made clear she knew about the suit and had some adventures with her as Moonknight.He pushed her away when his mom died a few months ago as that's when he started loosing the Steven marc balance and khonshu started threatening him about making Layla the next avtar.
Once again sort of missing the point about the star map thing. It's not like Khonshu was like "oh we have to rewind to X date on Y calendar year of this specific calendar". He "remembered what the sky looked like", so therefore as the protector of the night travelers or whatever he's called he went into his memory and pulled exactly what the sky looked like to him on that night.
Like Holden said... This episode, NEEDED that injection, no pun intended, of humor to somewhat dilute the reality of the entire backstory. This hits very hard, and I'm really happy with Marvel taking that chance. That said, I cried like a baby.
I love the nuance in this show, how beautifully and intricately everything is woven. I noticed him crushing and slapping his yarmulke on the ground and my immediate thought was, "Yeah, he's mad at God. Been there." I think there's a lot of things they won't fully explain, a lot of subtleties that will remain subtle, because those are love notes to the people who will pick up on them.
Loving this show. Loving the reactions ! Love you two! Platonically of course. I felt as though Steven had to die in order for Marc to move on and accept that his brothers death was not his fault. Killing the side of him that was his little brother who is gone.
in episode one, steven talks to a little girl in the museum who asks him about being rejected by the field of reeds. Steven seemed confused because "I'm not dead".... this seems to be foreshadowing
It was apparent and quite nice how during that whole first flashback scene how little you both spoke to each other or made any comments at all. Just goes to show how captivating that whole sequence was and how easy it was to get involved with every emotion that was being betrayed there. Hats off to everyone with this project. It really hit on all levels.
When Steven came in for Marc breaking down at his moms funeral and he’s like “mum can you believe it, I’m lost again” I couldn’t keep the tears in. The storytelling is fantastic, not to mention the ACTING!
This episode finally resolves the accent issue. It's a KID'S interpretation of an English accent. Plus, there are so many varieties of real accents. Achara Kirk likes it. She's not UK English, but I'm pretty sure she's from a British colony.
"The hippo was a certain god" Ancient Egypt's mythology was very big into gods having animal forms. Osiris was one of the few who appeared human, most of the rest looked kind of like shifters - human animal hybrids, kind of like werewolves but different animals. Considering that they made Thor a dude bro and Loki a drama queen, it's no surprise that they made another god have a weird personality.
I wonder how they are going to do the last episode... It seems like they have sooo much to fit in it. I really hope Jake Lockley makes some sort of appearance.
I’m pretty sure he showed up briefly in the beginning when he was with Harrow and had a bleeding bandage on his nose. His accent sounds New Yorkish and his mannerisms are different than both Marc and Steven. He got pretty violent wanting to stab Harrow with the pyramid paperweight. Versus when Marc and Steven were with Harrow.
No-Prize explanation: Our stellar mapping software can’t account for celestial bodies astronomers may not be aware that existed 4,000 years ago. Relying on software in that instance runs the risk of being inaccurate. Might as well use a god if you have one available.
The whole conversation in the beginning about why he turned back the night sky instead of using software makes me laugh. Guys, it’s a show about a dude with multiple personalities who has a super suit thanks to an egyptian god. Lol. Plus which looks better, the entire sky shifting back or software on a tablet? 🤣
@@nom-de-sobriquet I get where he’s coming from but they had to make it look cool for the audience and cause suspense by turning him to stone for the story. Lol
i think the thing with the accent is that he's also doing a different voice at the same time. people think its bad bc it doesnt sound like a british version of oscar isaac
Episode 5 really hit deep. The performance from oscar isaac 👌. I don't see Steven and Mark as the same person/ actor Oscar and the team really did a great job with filing his performance 👏 .
I had a lot of sympathy for the dad until Marc’s mom began engaging in physical abuse. I could see someone believing they could mitigate the emotional effects of the mom’s rage, but I can’t for the life of me imagine that you can look on your son, beaten and bruised, and allow him to remain in a household with the perpetrator of violence. I know this is fictional, but this is also a very real situation that often occurs and I have little sympathy for people complicit in child abuse.
Marc's dad reminds me of how some mothers in real life side with their daughter's abusers. There are cases where the dad or stepdad violates the daughter, but the mom still chooses to stay with the man and not do anything to help her own child. Makes me sick to my stomach.
oscar is insanely talented. i also think its so interesting how he perceived the bad guy, harrow as his doctor. kind of showing that lots of patients view the doctors as the enemy,
I lost my mother last year and so this episode just struck me in such a weird way. I didn’t have a rough upbringing by any means, but just seeing the scene where Steven finally accepts that she’s not on the other end of the phone… Broke me down pretty good. Oscar Isaac has arguably given us the greatest acting performance in the MCU so far. Might be controversial, but don’t confuse it with saying the best addition to the MCU. But he’s also up there in that regard as well (In the same convo as RDJ and Cumberbatch, etc.)
As the "doctor" was explaining a patient may create a construct as a safe place. The psych ward was the construct for Marc (and Steven at one point) to escape from his experiences in the afterlife and the memories he wished to escape. All the characters in the psych ward are just pulled from Marc/Stephen's memory. Anything they said are just his own thought's echoing back at himself and trying to make sense of what is happening.
I'm sorry Jen, but I 100% cannot understand what the mother is going through, there is literally 0 excuse for the way she treated Marc, it simply was not his fault that his brother died.
Dealing wrongly with grief make it easier for the mother to vent those feelings in a form of verbal and physical abuse towards Marc instead of moving on. Why i can't understand is her feelings about Taweret
@@danielruiz8259 No I get why she beats Marc, it's Jen constantly feeling bad about the mother that I do not understand. I could never feel such remorse for a monster like her
@@musawarkhan873 I mean, Jen is not excusing or justifying what the mother is doing. Is the why she is doing it, the grief, guilt and the blame. Obviously the mother is 100% wrong, In this case, is very fucked up but does happen.
Khonshu is the god of the moon, not the god of math. He remembers every night but it seems unreasonable for even a god to be like, "that was 748,000 nights ago on Tuesday!"
Here's Holden complaining about the CGI and at the same time is the most fanboy for the Raimi Spider-man a movie that have the most horrendous CGI since de Godzilla 97.
Basically the moment after Marc is shot EVERY moment after that is taking place in the duat or the Egyptian underworld, even the scene we with “Dr Harrow” that’s is just how Marc is seeing everything but in reality long haired Ethan hawk is still trying to release aumit and actually might have succeeded because of the “premature judged souls” falling in the desert when they were in the boat.
Extra respect points to Holden for making a reference to Justin Pierre from MCS, wasn't expecting that lol. I got to meet JP a couple of years back at a show in Camden, super chill dude.
Holden, I had to pause the video to commend you on your Motion City Soundtrack reference. You and Jen crush it in the music department. Thanks for the amazing content!
Glad y’all enjoyed this episode, I think it’s my favorite episode! I think it was another nod to Black Panther when the hippo was listing the after life plains. And the final one I believe is where his ancestors go
I personally don't agree with either of you about the hippo at the end of episode 4. That might be because I was already familiar with Taweret, and had an really good idea of why she was there.
this episode was easily the thing in the MCU that has the most emotion and feeling in it (out of the movies and tv shows) this just hits so hard because its actually real
Most of yalls reaction was shocked Pikachu face and Awe 🤣 love this episode SO much. The space where he's with Dr. Harrow is his brain trying to deal with the shock of dying. It's alot to go through, especially with how messed up Marc is. It was really on tier with Wanda Vision. Edit: Yes Oscar Isaac needs all the awards 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I don’t know if you guys noticed but we actually got to see a little bit of Jake (Marks 3rd alter) in this episode at the beginning, you could tell because he had his classic bandaid across his nose and also the way he was scanning the room because he had never been there before, he also had his own NY accent. We can also tell it’s Jake because Dr Harrow realises it’s someone new and presses a panic button when Jake starts to get a little too psychotic which he is known for in the comics. Overall great episode Oscar Isaacs acting in this one was phenomenal!
Mental illness is a very painful thing to go through especially when you are not taught resilience against trauma . Not only for yourself but the people you drag along with, who love and forgive you over and over. This episode really hit home.
My theory about why Steven falling off the boat balanced the scales is that he, as an altar, “died,” and part of therapy for individuals with dissociative identity disorder is to unify the identities back into the original person as the individual learns to process the trauma that fractured him or her in the first place. Having said that, I hope Steven isn’t truly gone. He is such a good character in this story!
A cool detail is in Episode 1 Steven is giving a young girl a tour of the museum and he explains the Field of Reeds to her and how only the worthiest could pass through the field of reeds to which the girl says "And did it suck for you? Getting rejected from the Field of Reeds?" to which Steven says "That doesn't make sense 'cause I'm not dead, am I?.... am I?" Neat detail that might be a clue to the ending of the season / show
I don't know if you noticed, but Jake Lockley is in this episode. It's very subtle, but the first scene with the therapist, listeb to his accent, look at his demeanor. He's unhinged, has a New York accent and is the only body in the asylum with a broken nose.
I've seen a lot of behind the scenes footage and everything on his suit is practical except for the glowing eyes. Oscar Isaac even said he was fully suited up for the crazy action scenes.
Just to pick up on a few bits you mention, I'm actually from London, and Oscar Isaacs accent jars on a few occasions, but it's not too bad overall. They get a lot of things really right - when Steven knocks the sandy zombie off the boat he shouts "Six!" the maximum score off a single shot in cricket - but some other things wrong - in the Tomb when he tips stuff onto the other zombie he says "I squished it", but we'd always say "squashed". However, now knowing he picked it up off a ropey old film character, it kind of explains the inconsistencies. If that's the level of depth and layers they've gone for, it's very impressive.
This adds so much to the MCU. The afterlife. It explains the ancestral plane in the Black Panther movie. It explains the soul world from infinity war, even the deleted scene in endgame where Tony meets his grownup daughter.
Man, episode 5 really gave me all I wanted out of a show about DID. Writing, composure, shot beautifully (as always in this show), and acted...man if Oscar Issac hasn't just won over my whole heart. The man can act, ESPECIALLY with what he had to do in this show. I see scenes in this episode being used as examples for filmography type classes in the future. The suit is an afterthought if you don't truly feel for the character, and I really feel for Marc/Steven. Also s/o the kid actor in here, he really impressed and sold me on the idea of Marc ultimately wanting to escape.
yeah the drinks in the bag, thats very common in middle east and asia. for stuff like sodas, what they do it they put the drinks in bags with a straw, and the store keeps the bottles to return for the deposit. i ran into that alot in the Philippines.
For the sky thing, stars disappear and appear over the years which can majorly effect how the map worked and we would have no idea a star was there at that time and isn't now. Turning back the sky would allow them to find where to go in the quickest way without Konshu having to literally draw a picture perfect map of it by describing it to Steven or Mark.
And per Jen's comment, was Taweret laughable or affable? Heh? Heh? She is positively delightful, and the goddess of mothers, children, and birth... she should be
A wonderful episode of Moon Knight. I loved the Black Panther reference. I also like the psychological horror elements of this series. I want to hug Marc Spector while watching this episode. Another thing I liked was the interaction between Marc and Steven Taweret. Marc's mother was a cold-hearted snake. Steven calling Arthur Harrow Ned Flanders was funny. This episode was a roller coaster of emotions. We finally see the origin story of Marc Spector, as well as the story of Steven Grant and Moon Knight. Give Oscar Issac all the Emmy Awards. The visuals in this series are amazing
I bawled watching the episode and I bawled watching your video. I am so, so heartbroken over this episode. I was at work and started crying just thinking about it. 😭
the drink in the bag is also common in Mexico. We drink smoothies and a thing we call "chocomil" which is frozen milk and a chocolate powder and in my opinion, the bag adds flavor...no joke.
I love how the conversation starts going with oh its going back to that marvel feel while I'm sitting here knowing that they are about to watch a depressing episode
Yes scan that bar code. There's been at least 1 bar code to scan in every episode. They each bring you to a specific downloadable comic! It's very cool!
Fun fact about the drink in the plastic bag. In poor country such as mine, a cart that sell soda usually brought them in glass bottles to sell, not plastic bottles ,because they are cheaper (the glass bottles must be retuned to the soda company). So, when people buy soda on the street and want to just ‘grab and go’ they will pour it in a plastic bag for you.
Most people with split personality disorder get it because they have something dramatic that happened to themselves or is happening. The reason for this is so that they do not have to go through those situations. I loved that they showed this in this episode
I really liked the whole etiological backstory about Steven and Marc. We really needed his story no matter how emotional it was to tell. Oscar's performance was top notch.
"Did Egyptians build ships?" Oh, only for a few thousand years. ;) Loved the little shoutout to Black Panther in this one. Nice world-building. "On reality: "We still need to discern which is which." - Jen. Welp...welcome to Moon Knight! This is MK comic storylines 101 right here. Quite the ride, isn't it? hehe.
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For real almost 10 min of comments and promo? Before it was like five or 8 min. Every time is more and more promo on your channel 😒
@@JOseRojas-yi3so Let him earn his bread, yo. Stop hatin'.
Well… moving twice within 12 months is pretty expensive for someone living off his channel. Let the man earn some money on his channel. It’s like TV. If you don’t like the station’s ads, grab the remote.
If we like specific entertainment, it’s fair to pay the entertainer with either our money or our attention. If we’re choosing the attention route, and the entertainer has gathered enough attention, they have a right to leverage our attention to those that wish to sell the fruits of their effort as well in exchange for money. This is how entertainers put food on the table. Especially on a public medium.
This is all fair game, and he’s smart to do it. It wasn’t too long of an ad break. Entertainers know that they risk losing attention if they’re not entertaining.
Perhaps consider cutting him some slack. The BluRay cost money too. No Internet. He’s jumping through costly hoops just recording and uploading.
The irony of you being sponsored by a VPN with your current situation 😂
Episode five has been my favorite episode so far. We didn’t get any Moon Knight action, but man the emotions were off the charts.
Wrecks me every single time...
It is amusing to see how overwhelmingly missed it is... that we have three visits to Harrow's office, and a different identity in each one.
We met Jake and didn't even realize it
@@Rated314 wait when i didnt notice this
Episode 5 makes me want to have 5 more seasons of Mark/Steven/Jake.
@@Rated314 but the director confirmed on Twitter that it wasn’t Jake during the scene where his voice changed and had that paperweight in hand.
Kids like Marc who are never able to cope end up dead or in mental hospitals when they grow up. Helpless souls, the world is a cold place.
As for the "laughably cartoonish" Hippo... that's just what she's supposed to look like. The director himself is Egyptian and has been very open and put as much of his culture in the show as possible. And you wouldn't wanna fuck up the cultural as well as mythological presentation when you're Marvel at this point.
That's true. They do point out how ridiculous it feels in the show, but she's really well portrayed/designed to be accurate. Not every egyptian god is a mummy bird skeleton
Should’ve brought that care to the Mandarin spoken early on in the show lol
@@CHRISPYakaKON I think that was the point, bad guys not knowing Mandarin xD but I get how irritating it must have been
@@CHRISPYakaKON i mean they are self taught. I don't expect them to speak it very well. Kinda like how people speak Spanish in a high school class
@@CHRISPYakaKON well I said Egyptian, not Chinese lol. I'm asian and all I heard was klingon..
I have a degree in Psychology. It's actually pretty accurate that people who exhibit Dissociative Identity Disorder usually experienced some kind of abuse or traumatic experiences as a child. This led me to predict the kind of childhood the original personality had. Also, I wonder if it was actually the 3rd personality that took the abuse which might account for his apparent violent behaviors at the beginning of episode 3 when they both blackout and also why Steven doesn't remember his abusive mother.
Oscar Isaac is the best addition to the mcu since rdj. His acting in this episode was fantastic.
Also whatever mark is seeing is real in a certain sense. Tawaret made mention of the ancestral plane which is a direct shout out to black panther. The afterlife is basically how the person going through it expects it to be in the MCU. In black planther, kill monger had his dad's apartment, tchala had the whole tree with the former kings of wakanda and for Mark it happens to be a psych ward.
Do you think we'll see him again after this series? Especially if the asylum is the "real" thing that's happening and not him being an actual superhero (which is sad).
@@urdads_bolos the asylum isnt real life tho. Marc did go there when he was younger but he isn't actually there
@@jamessutcliffe2502 Oh ok
@@urdads_bolos Midnight Sons, a group of anti heroes
@@stephatflashpoint I’ve been thinking bout that! Mark/ Moon Knight was just in Uk…Blade (his voice) was in London at the end of Eternals with Whitman/Black Knight. Can’t wait to see where they might go with these characters!
6:35 I hope you saw how Tawaret was needed in that episode Jen. She's so cute and the only 'joyful' element of the whole episode. At least I was glad she was there as the little ray of sunshine
They said it at one point in the episode. Dr. Harrow was a coping mechanism to help them calm down so they can face the truth of the situation. Notice how after every freakout they were transported to his office and once they accepted the situation somewhat they were back in the thick of it
"Did the Egyptians make ships?"
Yup. River based civilization...and its a country on the Mediterranean sea. They had ships.
Its like they forgot that the Nile is a thing. You know, one of the longest rivers in the world!
We have one episode left, but Oscar Isaac was phenomenal with this show. His portrayal in this particular episode left me in an emotional wreck. Whatever goes down in the next episode will come full curcle.
Yah that still boogles my mind that how are they gonna finish it in one episode and why is it only 6 usually its 8 or 9 episodes from all the series now a days.
@@blessanabey8386 I guess maybe to save money and see marvel fans reaction to the series first idk. They'll probably set up bigger projects for oscar isaac
@@BoObOo-md5vg Idk they said it's a one and done series but no confirmation yet so far...Oscar Isaac said he won't do any wasted characters like he need to show his acting range like this I guess ,maybe he learned that from star wars. But who knows, they might do it so far this show is doing great aside from small hiccups.
@@blessanabey8386 Guessing some things will be left for other projects.
We'll probably have a final battle with Harrow and fixing things up with Leyla. And third personality will probably be heavily teased in the last episode with the show ending Marc and Steven trying to figure out who he is and how to talk to him.
@@secretchiley yah and i feel like mark should know him since he created steven, mark is the original why does he not remember that, maybe konshu did something to his mind idk, pretty interesting stuff, and most importantly since that personality isn't resolved like mark and Steven why did the feather got balanced before that🤔
i realized steven is the one making jokes, and really the only one doing it. which makes sense considering he came to be as a coping mechanism for trauma
Even for us.
"Nosy. Ned Flandersy."
"Atleast the dad is supportive."
No. A good parent has to be a lot more than supportive, especially when the other parent is abusing the child. The good parent needs to be protective. They have to fight in your defence, or they are complicit in the abuse.
Yes, the father was passive during the abuse of the mother which make him a part of said abuse, no wonder Marc wanted to get out of there.
The dad could’ve taken Marc away from his abusive mom.
THIS
You try losing your youngest son and then watching your wife mentally disintegrate and see if you don't try to cling to some hope that you might not lose her as well if you can just convince her to get the help that she needs. You feel broken and helpless by what she is doing to your other son but you truly believe, right or wrong, that leaving her or having her arrested will do her much more harm than good and that your other son will be much better off still having his mother in his life if she can just get some help. You try being in that position and having the strength of will and presence of mind to do what a monday-morning quarterback thinks that he ought to do.
@@MattPerk7 boohoo
Personally, I thought the hippo “hi!” At the end of ep 4 was a very much needed release of tension. The whole episode had been steadily increasing in tension all throughout and it desperately needed something to break. With just that one word, it prepped the viewers to reset at the beginning of the next episode so it would still have that powerful emotional progression. I think that keeping the viewer in that super heightened state of unease and tension for a whole week would actually lessen the impact of what happened in ep 5 since it would allow as much of a buildup to the extremely emotional aspects here.
Honestly completely agree
Great analysis
I agree, but only after watching episode 5.
😂 *Egyptian moon god and his avatar change the stars back in time*
Jen: woah that was really cool
*an Egyptian goddess meets Marc and Steven in an afterlife*
Jen: this is marvel being sloppy
I feel like Jen is the type of person who needs information handed to her on a platter as opposed to inferring things on your own which is totally okay. Every persons brain works differently. I personally like the mystery and trying to put things together on my own. Donnie Darko is the only thing I have ever watched where I rewatched it three times in a row because my brain could not compute what I just watched haha.
I really don't get that reaction. Made me tilt my head when I heard it.
Steven’s accent:
The Steven alter made up the accent. And since Marc is American, there was no experience speaking the language natively.
It’s a part of the DID aspect of the character to have an unconvincing English accent.
:-)
Even though he worked with the crew to try and do a more common accent?
Realistically someone with DID who has a split whom uses a different accent wouldn't be very convincing. I believe Oscar Isaac's accent is good. And I believe they did that because a cheesy accent would fall flat or be too real for this show, either way it just wouldn't work. The more practiced professional accent makes Steven a much more "Alive" character
I am from the London area and had to check to see if Oscar Isaac had any English relatives as the accent is so damn spot on.
No, his accent is based off the old film with Dr Steven Grant in it so it is based on him and and an actor doing one.
@@paulgibbons1366 ORIGINALLY it was based off of the old TV hero, but since Steven moved to London, that accent will have slowly morphed into something more authentic. (Hell, we saw how quickly Wanda Gained an American accent when she was actively trying to blend in and assimilate the culture).
So basically, if Jen doesn’t understand it, it just doesn’t work or “fit”? Lol “the Egyptians made ships”? Ohh Jen, bless your little heart. If you only knew…
Steven accepted that he was also Marc right there at the end, he started fighting, and he got Marc to accept that the death of his brother wasn't his fault. They opened up to each other, which got them closer to balancing out then Steven got dropped from the equation.
I liked how they explained that this is not "The afterlife" but "A afterlife" and also naming the Ancestral plain (from Black Panther)
Also in ep 3 one of the gods explains that mankind lost faith/interest in the Egyptian gods, which is why Tawaret says "its been a while since a soul traveled through here" as not many people believe in that anymore
I assume Hel (Mentioned in Thor) is also a variation of an afterlife
For simplicity, him getting shot is our reality. The pysche ward is the afterlife. As the hippo says it's different for everyone. She brought up the ancestral plane which is the black panther afterlife. Since he's so knowledgeable on Egyptian mythology, thats why his ancestral plane is based on it. Layla as stated in the episode is our reality where mark is shot and needs her to free Konshu so the moon knight suit can return and heal the gun shot wounds. 😊
Yea I don’t get the confusion by them. The hippo laid it out clearly what’s real & not
aye another common one is the astral plane which Dr. Strange or telepathic mutants (e.g. Prof. X) often visit
It’s already pretty simple tbh
@@urbent3147 that's why it's labeled.. for simplicity.. how bout we chat on Dr strange. I'll see you in a week. Cuz I think it's gonna be a let down unless it's post credit scene is a wtf?
Yeah at that point it’s pretty obvious. I already thought this was some kind of afterlife in episode 4.
I believe Dr. Harrow in the asylum, like Jeff Lemire comic this part of the story it's based off of, it's designed to help him. The other section is designed to look into his past directly, while this is to bring a sense of reality and embrace it.
I agree, Harrow was there when Marc/Steven went through a mental overload of sorts, and Harrow was there to calm him down and actually help.
Yeah even tho he dismisses things as nonsense, he still points at them as his mind trying to cope and embrace them to help him heal.
The fake Harrow even describes how what he’s experiencing is swings between reality & delusion, as his mind seeks to reject the difficult & scary reality with a safe delusion.
It just turns out that “I’m just insane, in a psych ward, and Harrow is a therapist I don’t like” was the comforting illusion.
I have never read the comics but I felt the same. Everything in his ancestral plane is a projection of his mind, including Dr Harrow. So definitely he's not the bad guy here, he's just what it says he is - a doctor. He's trying to help Marc.
Hippo seems very MCU when you remember there's a talking raccoon and a big green monster running around in the same universe.
Also with Layla. Based on what's told in previous episodes it seems Marc first sought her out because of his guilty conscience of being there when her dad was killed. Then we assume they fell in love and got married. Then probably started excavating dig sites looking for that magic scarab and probably other things. Then when Marc found out Khonshu was considering replacing him with her he pushed her away and tried to divorce her to keep her safe.
For Khonshu, it's rather in character for him to do change the sky. It's the same god that did a solar eclipse just to get the other God's attentions instead of just calling for a meeting, who practically yells when the other Gods are just speaking normally and not harming their avatars. He is that petty, reckless and flawed with unresolved family issues and have bad ideas, so the whole sky thing may also be another way for him to once again raise his metaphorical middle fingers at the other Gods who kicked him out. And once again it is much faster than driving to a cafe, logging in, opening the website, getting familiar with the interface and trying to get the coordinates at pin point accuracy by the millimeter.
Yep, plus no one really knows how accurate that software actually is the further back you go. Khonshu doing what he did was the faster, safer bet.
For some reason, Jen calling the hippo "laughable" rubs me a little the wrong way. The hippo is and acts extremely accurately to Egyptian culture and myth. Wouldn't want to fuck that up and anger a whole culture of people.
Also, we already have a talking Raccoon 🤷🏾♂️
Same! I don’t understand their problem with her, and it rubs me the wrong way as well.
Definitely was my favorite episode. An emotional roller coaster with some of the best writing and acting ever seen in the MCU.
100%
I have never felt this impressed and/or heartbroken by a Marvel origin story since WandaVision episode 8. Also, that shot where Marc was lying underneath Khonshu’s statue was perfectly comic accurate. And I think they’ve said they’re not making a season 2 for Moon Knight, unfortunately.
yeah, I'm pretty sure they are doing movies involving Moon Knight, and shows are not gonna be needed for this series.
@@changhyon92 oh yeah that makes sense, they just needed the one season as the introduction/origin story
@@changhyon92 yeah I wouldn't be surprised if Blade or someone else pops up at the post-credits scene of episode 6 or something like that. I don't think it's a coincidence Blade is getting a movie, Black Knight (Dane Whitman from Eternals) has been recently introduced, Werewolf by Night is getting a special show later this year... they're setting up some kind of supernatural team, probably Midnight Sons from the comics
Oscar Isaac ONLY signed on for this one series. Of course, that doesn't mean that he might not reprise Moon Knight at a later date (we can only hope). But keep in mind that in the past, Disney/Marvel has locked people down with contracts when they knew there was a good possibility that they wanted to use that actor again. And that has not happened this time. So I am actually a little nervous that maybe there are no immediate plans for including Oscar Isaac in MCU projects in the near future. Which then makes me nervous about where Moon Knight is heading for episode 6.
Remember that Mark/Steven is only the CURRENT Moon Knight. I would not put it past Kevin Feige to, for example, have Layla try to rescue Khonshu and have to agree to be the new Avatar/Moon Knight in exchange for Mark and Steven's life. While Feige certainly has respect for the comics and tries to keep to their spirit, he is not rigidly beholden to their stories and substance and has been known to make changes to keep things unpredictable.
I'm becoming more and more confident after rewatching the episode that the scene at the beginning of episode 5 with "Marc" with injuries all over his face where he grabs a desk item to defend himself is actually Jake Longley the usual third personality of Moon Knight because I'm pretty sure in that scene he had a Chicago accent while also being obviously very violent.
I heard others say it was a New York accent
@@TessaxMusic95 Yeah it absolutely might have been I'm Australian so my American accent knowledge or whatever obviously isn't that great but I figured because the most of the American scenes are set in that area it was some kind of accent similar to a Chicago one
the director said on twitter it wasn't but the russos said the name of endgame had never been said before
@@dankerbell Yeah i guess that might be true or maybe they're giving the third personality a different name so they technically wouldn't be wrong I just feel that that whole sequence felt too weirdly out of place to just be Marc with what we've already also seen in the show
Marc got booted from the military in a feuge state, so unless it was Steven Jake makes the most sense. I feel like Steven and Marc will reconcile, just for Jake to pop up at the end of the finale.
I'm amazed by Oscar Isaac's performance in this show. Having to balance so many emotions between 2 completely different characters, plus all the action.
I'm so excited for the finale. Can't wait
I’m not one to cry, especially for a movie or show but this episode got a tear from me because of how relatable it was.
Oscar Isaac is moon knight like RDJ is Iron Man
Lol and apocalypse
The Taweret character makes sense… she’s in the first episode. Steven picks up a big box of cute plush Tawerets in the gift shop. It makes sense that he’s seeing her as friendly and cute.
Apparently the writers had been sitting around a table talking about the show, and there was a picture of all the Egyptian gods there. The head writer couldn't stop looking at Tawaret. A few days in, he told the other writers "we have to figure out how to work this hippo into the show." They all laughed and continued working, but he was like, "no, seriously, I have to put Tawaret into the show. We're going to do it." And so they did.
They already explained what happened with Marc and Layla. He pushed her away because of Konshu
Marc was already Moonknight when he met Layla . he hid the truth about her father from her but it was made clear she knew about the suit and had some adventures with her as Moonknight.He pushed her away when his mom died a few months ago as that's when he started loosing the Steven marc balance and khonshu started threatening him about making Layla the next avtar.
Once again sort of missing the point about the star map thing. It's not like Khonshu was like "oh we have to rewind to X date on Y calendar year of this specific calendar". He "remembered what the sky looked like", so therefore as the protector of the night travelers or whatever he's called he went into his memory and pulled exactly what the sky looked like to him on that night.
Like Holden said... This episode, NEEDED that injection, no pun intended, of humor to somewhat dilute the reality of the entire backstory. This hits very hard, and I'm really happy with Marvel taking that chance. That said, I cried like a baby.
I love the nuance in this show, how beautifully and intricately everything is woven. I noticed him crushing and slapping his yarmulke on the ground and my immediate thought was, "Yeah, he's mad at God. Been there."
I think there's a lot of things they won't fully explain, a lot of subtleties that will remain subtle, because those are love notes to the people who will pick up on them.
He's a Jewish man working for an Egyptian God
Loving this show. Loving the reactions ! Love you two! Platonically of course.
I felt as though Steven had to die in order for Marc to move on and accept that his brothers death was not his fault. Killing the side of him that was his little brother who is gone.
in episode one, steven talks to a little girl in the museum who asks him about being rejected by the field of reeds. Steven seemed confused because "I'm not dead".... this seems to be foreshadowing
@@deek60819 nice call back. Didn't think of that. That's super trippy
It was apparent and quite nice how during that whole first flashback scene how little you both spoke to each other or made any comments at all. Just goes to show how captivating that whole sequence was and how easy it was to get involved with every emotion that was being betrayed there. Hats off to everyone with this project. It really hit on all levels.
When Steven came in for Marc breaking down at his moms funeral and he’s like “mum can you believe it, I’m lost again” I couldn’t keep the tears in. The storytelling is fantastic, not to mention the ACTING!
This episode finally resolves the accent issue. It's a KID'S interpretation of an English accent. Plus, there are so many varieties of real accents. Achara Kirk likes it. She's not UK English, but I'm pretty sure she's from a British colony.
This episode absolutely broke me, like I actually cried, Oscars acting here is phenomenal and I still think he was the best choice.
"The hippo was a certain god"
Ancient Egypt's mythology was very big into gods having animal forms. Osiris was one of the few who appeared human, most of the rest looked kind of like shifters - human animal hybrids, kind of like werewolves but different animals. Considering that they made Thor a dude bro and Loki a drama queen, it's no surprise that they made another god have a weird personality.
I wonder how they are going to do the last episode... It seems like they have sooo much to fit in it. I really hope Jake Lockley makes some sort of appearance.
Well they don’t necessarily have to clear up everything in one episode a lot can be saved for season 2
i believe they did show him this episode, just not by name
@@InfamousTerry4 oscar said he isn't doing anymore episodes though, and it's a limited series
@@gen2777 the director said he hasn't showed up at all, but he might've been lying
I’m pretty sure he showed up briefly in the beginning when he was with Harrow and had a bleeding bandage on his nose. His accent sounds New Yorkish and his mannerisms are different than both Marc and Steven. He got pretty violent wanting to stab Harrow with the pyramid paperweight. Versus when Marc and Steven were with Harrow.
No-Prize explanation:
Our stellar mapping software can’t account for celestial bodies astronomers may not be aware that existed 4,000 years ago.
Relying on software in that instance runs the risk of being inaccurate.
Might as well use a god if you have one available.
The whole conversation in the beginning about why he turned back the night sky instead of using software makes me laugh. Guys, it’s a show about a dude with multiple personalities who has a super suit thanks to an egyptian god. Lol. Plus which looks better, the entire sky shifting back or software on a tablet? 🤣
Exactly!
@@nom-de-sobriquet I get where he’s coming from but they had to make it look cool for the audience and cause suspense by turning him to stone for the story. Lol
i think the thing with the accent is that he's also doing a different voice at the same time. people think its bad bc it doesnt sound like a british version of oscar isaac
Building tension then deflating it with humor is a classic, widely used writing technique - it's not just "the way Marvel does it".
true but marvel does it literally all the time and often to immensely damaging effect
@@dankerbell That's ridiculous.
Episode 5 really hit deep. The performance from oscar isaac 👌. I don't see Steven and Mark as the same person/ actor Oscar and the team really did a great job with filing his performance 👏 .
I had a lot of sympathy for the dad until Marc’s mom began engaging in physical abuse. I could see someone believing they could mitigate the emotional effects of the mom’s rage, but I can’t for the life of me imagine that you can look on your son, beaten and bruised, and allow him to remain in a household with the perpetrator of violence. I know this is fictional, but this is also a very real situation that often occurs and I have little sympathy for people complicit in child abuse.
Marc's dad reminds me of how some mothers in real life side with their daughter's abusers. There are cases where the dad or stepdad violates the daughter, but the mom still chooses to stay with the man and not do anything to help her own child. Makes me sick to my stomach.
The acting in this episode was particularly topnotch. Oscar Isaac, the mom, the dad, Ethan Hawke. All on point.
oscar is insanely talented. i also think its so interesting how he perceived the bad guy, harrow as his doctor. kind of showing that lots of patients view the doctors as the enemy,
I lost my mother last year and so this episode just struck me in such a weird way. I didn’t have a rough upbringing by any means, but just seeing the scene where Steven finally accepts that she’s not on the other end of the phone… Broke me down pretty good.
Oscar Isaac has arguably given us the greatest acting performance in the MCU so far. Might be controversial, but don’t confuse it with saying the best addition to the MCU. But he’s also up there in that regard as well (In the same convo as RDJ and Cumberbatch, etc.)
That's awful. I'm so sorry for your loss.
As the "doctor" was explaining a patient may create a construct as a safe place. The psych ward was the construct for Marc (and Steven at one point) to escape from his experiences in the afterlife and the memories he wished to escape.
All the characters in the psych ward are just pulled from Marc/Stephen's memory. Anything they said are just his own thought's echoing back at himself and trying to make sense of what is happening.
this was such a great episode. they've done such a great job on Moon Knight. He's one of if not my favorite Marvel character.
I'm sorry Jen, but I 100% cannot understand what the mother is going through, there is literally 0 excuse for the way she treated Marc, it simply was not his fault that his brother died.
Dealing wrongly with grief make it easier for the mother to vent those feelings in a form of verbal and physical abuse towards Marc instead of moving on.
Why i can't understand is her feelings about Taweret
@@danielruiz8259 No I get why she beats Marc, it's Jen constantly feeling bad about the mother that I do not understand. I could never feel such remorse for a monster like her
@@musawarkhan873 I mean, Jen is not excusing or justifying what the mother is doing.
Is the why she is doing it, the grief, guilt and the blame. Obviously the mother is 100% wrong, In this case, is very fucked up but does happen.
This episode gave me everything that I wanted. The story, the acting, direction, everything was just great. I cried my heart out.
Khonshu is the god of the moon, not the god of math. He remembers every night but it seems unreasonable for even a god to be like, "that was 748,000 nights ago on Tuesday!"
Most people cried while watching this,Jen had the most straight face throughout....wonder if she connected completely
I didn’t cry, I had a straight face, still felt all the emotions and it’s my favourite episode yet. What’s your point?
Here's Holden complaining about the CGI and at the same time is the most fanboy for the Raimi Spider-man a movie that have the most horrendous CGI since de Godzilla 97.
Man we’ve had some great performances from actors in the MCU, but Oscar Isaac is on another level. Oscar worthy performance indeed.
Biggest respect for the quick upload! Thanks for going all out on this and hope your internet will work again soon!
Basically the moment after Marc is shot EVERY moment after that is taking place in the duat or the Egyptian underworld, even the scene we with “Dr Harrow” that’s is just how Marc is seeing everything but in reality long haired Ethan hawk is still trying to release aumit and actually might have succeeded because of the “premature judged souls” falling in the desert when they were in the boat.
Tell me you’ve never travel abroad without telling me you’ve not travel aboard - get shocked by seeing coke in a bag lol
Extra respect points to Holden for making a reference to Justin Pierre from MCS, wasn't expecting that lol. I got to meet JP a couple of years back at a show in Camden, super chill dude.
Holden, I had to pause the video to commend you on your Motion City Soundtrack reference. You and Jen crush it in the music department. Thanks for the amazing content!
this one was an emotional roller-coaster. I've never been this emotional for a marvel movie.
Glad y’all enjoyed this episode, I think it’s my favorite episode! I think it was another nod to Black Panther when the hippo was listing the after life plains. And the final one I believe is where his ancestors go
I personally don't agree with either of you about the hippo at the end of episode 4. That might be because I was already familiar with Taweret, and had an really good idea of why she was there.
this episode was easily the thing in the MCU that has the most emotion and feeling in it (out of the movies and tv shows) this just hits so hard because its actually real
Really like the high quality intros. I'm sure its pretty time consuming to do them but it's totally worth it.
Most of yalls reaction was shocked Pikachu face and Awe 🤣 love this episode SO much. The space where he's with Dr. Harrow is his brain trying to deal with the shock of dying. It's alot to go through, especially with how messed up Marc is. It was really on tier with Wanda Vision.
Edit: Yes Oscar Isaac needs all the awards 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I don’t know if you guys noticed but we actually got to see a little bit of Jake (Marks 3rd alter) in this episode at the beginning, you could tell because he had his classic bandaid across his nose and also the way he was scanning the room because he had never been there before, he also had his own NY accent. We can also tell it’s Jake because Dr Harrow realises it’s someone new and presses a panic button when Jake starts to get a little too psychotic which he is known for in the comics. Overall great episode Oscar Isaacs acting in this one was phenomenal!
Mental illness is a very painful thing to go through especially when you are not taught resilience against trauma . Not only for yourself but the people you drag along with, who love and forgive you over and over. This episode really hit home.
My theory about why Steven falling off the boat balanced the scales is that he, as an altar, “died,” and part of therapy for individuals with dissociative identity disorder is to unify the identities back into the original person as the individual learns to process the trauma that fractured him or her in the first place. Having said that, I hope Steven isn’t truly gone. He is such a good character in this story!
A cool detail is in Episode 1 Steven is giving a young girl a tour of the museum and he explains the Field of Reeds to her and how only the worthiest could pass through the field of reeds to which the girl says "And did it suck for you? Getting rejected from the Field of Reeds?" to which Steven says "That doesn't make sense 'cause I'm not dead, am I?.... am I?" Neat detail that might be a clue to the ending of the season / show
That’s the whole point of this series in general, not being able to tell what’s real and what’s not
I don't know if you noticed, but Jake Lockley is in this episode. It's very subtle, but the first scene with the therapist, listeb to his accent, look at his demeanor. He's unhinged, has a New York accent and is the only body in the asylum with a broken nose.
This episode was very sad, had me crying all over again watching the reaction
They literally told you that the psych ward setting was the Egyptian underworld.
I loved this episode so much!! Learning about DID and MPD in Psychology rn and this is so cool to watch and learn from it!!
That's so cool too, what are you learning else?
Psychology is very interesting
Doctor Harrow in this episode is just part of his afterlife thing and he is a good guy helping both of them
I think it’s safe to say that when Marc had the broken nose and was having the manic episode with harrow was actually our first look at Jake
I've seen a lot of behind the scenes footage and everything on his suit is practical except for the glowing eyes. Oscar Isaac even said he was fully suited up for the crazy action scenes.
Just to pick up on a few bits you mention, I'm actually from London, and Oscar Isaacs accent jars on a few occasions, but it's not too bad overall. They get a lot of things really right - when Steven knocks the sandy zombie off the boat he shouts "Six!" the maximum score off a single shot in cricket - but some other things wrong - in the Tomb when he tips stuff onto the other zombie he says "I squished it", but we'd always say "squashed".
However, now knowing he picked it up off a ropey old film character, it kind of explains the inconsistencies. If that's the level of depth and layers they've gone for, it's very impressive.
This adds so much to the MCU. The afterlife. It explains the ancestral plane in the Black Panther movie. It explains the soul world from infinity war, even the deleted scene in endgame where Tony meets his grownup daughter.
Man, episode 5 really gave me all I wanted out of a show about DID. Writing, composure, shot beautifully (as always in this show), and acted...man if Oscar Issac hasn't just won over my whole heart. The man can act, ESPECIALLY with what he had to do in this show. I see scenes in this episode being used as examples for filmography type classes in the future. The suit is an afterthought if you don't truly feel for the character, and I really feel for Marc/Steven.
Also s/o the kid actor in here, he really impressed and sold me on the idea of Marc ultimately wanting to escape.
yeah the drinks in the bag, thats very common in middle east and asia. for stuff like sodas, what they do it they put the drinks in bags with a straw, and the store keeps the bottles to return for the deposit. i ran into that alot in the Philippines.
There have been QR codes in every episode: they lead to a link where you can read a free Moon Knight comic that inspired that week’s episode
For the sky thing, stars disappear and appear over the years which can majorly effect how the map worked and we would have no idea a star was there at that time and isn't now. Turning back the sky would allow them to find where to go in the quickest way without Konshu having to literally draw a picture perfect map of it by describing it to Steven or Mark.
It’s amazing how many “accent experts” are out there.
I don't see how anyone can have sympathy for that mom no matter what the kid did you never treat your kid that way
Jen hit the nail on the head... the reason they didn't use software is because rolling back the night sky was a bloody cool effect!
And per Jen's comment, was Taweret laughable or affable? Heh? Heh?
She is positively delightful, and the goddess of mothers, children, and birth... she should be
A wonderful episode of Moon Knight. I loved the Black Panther reference. I also like the psychological horror elements of this series. I want to hug Marc Spector while watching this episode. Another thing I liked was the interaction between Marc and Steven Taweret. Marc's mother was a cold-hearted snake. Steven calling Arthur Harrow Ned Flanders was funny. This episode was a roller coaster of emotions. We finally see the origin story of Marc Spector, as well as the story of Steven Grant and Moon Knight. Give Oscar Issac all the Emmy Awards. The visuals in this series are amazing
I bawled watching the episode and I bawled watching your video. I am so, so heartbroken over this episode. I was at work and started crying just thinking about it. 😭
the drink in the bag is also common in Mexico. We drink smoothies and a thing we call "chocomil" which is frozen milk and a chocolate powder and in my opinion, the bag adds flavor...no joke.
I love how the conversation starts going with oh its going back to that marvel feel while I'm sitting here knowing that they are about to watch a depressing episode
Holden is one of the only RUclips's were I don't skip the sponsorship cause its so funny 🤭
Yes scan that bar code. There's been at least 1 bar code to scan in every episode. They each bring you to a specific downloadable comic! It's very cool!
Fun fact about the drink in the plastic bag.
In poor country such as mine, a cart that sell soda usually brought them in glass bottles to sell, not plastic bottles ,because they are cheaper (the glass bottles must be retuned to the soda company).
So, when people buy soda on the street and want to just ‘grab and go’ they will pour it in a plastic bag for you.
Most people with split personality disorder get it because they have something dramatic that happened to themselves or is happening. The reason for this is so that they do not have to go through those situations. I loved that they showed this in this episode
I really liked the whole etiological backstory about Steven and Marc. We really needed his story no matter how emotional it was to tell. Oscar's performance was top notch.
"Did Egyptians build ships?" Oh, only for a few thousand years. ;) Loved the little shoutout to Black Panther in this one. Nice world-building.
"On reality: "We still need to discern which is which." - Jen. Welp...welcome to Moon Knight! This is MK comic storylines 101 right here. Quite the ride, isn't it? hehe.
Seeing Jen go from knowing nothing of the MCU to know debating with Holden regarding MCU thing.... I love the growth