So How Fast IS a 400HP Miata? (Part 1 - Dragy Pulls)
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Would you guys be interested in a full, start to finish tutorial about how to set up and use the Dragy to get the most fun and best info from it?
For those who are wondering about the vibration issue, the next few videos will answer your questions.
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Wait... Did u already figure out/solve vibration issue? Did I really miss that video?
exactly. left us all puzzled with that
The problem was not fixed for this video. It has however been fixed. Upcoming videos will talk about it. but I didn't want to release a video about fixing the problem, and then upload a video where the problem wasn't fixed, causing mass confusion. 🙂
@@TheCarPassionChannel So stoked for you :)
@@TheCarPassionChannel nice, glad you got it fixed:-)
@@TheCarPassionChannel yess!!!!!!
"We are actually on the moon" 😂😭😂 Has me dying
Get Greg to 100k by the end of 2020
Jesus Christ I didn't realize he only has like 90k
Lol. He'll be there in 2 weeks.
wtf i though he had like 500k never even looked
"0 -60 is about traction "
Humm yesss but for my car it's about be able to do it
hahaha
I hold the record for longest time on jack stands 😢
During Mardi Gras in New Orleans someone always gets arrested for public displays of nudity and sex acts while standing on Jack stands and it’s always the frat guy who has been braindead since he OD’d on alcohol freshman year
21 months for me 😭
@@Fee.1 Jesus I think he was just making a joke that he's always working on his car
Going on 25 months 😅
shit man my car's been on jack stands for almost a year. I just took it off a few days ago after I finally swapped a fresh 1.8 in er
I still say this is the best sounding Miata I ever heard with it’s own Mazda engine not swapped
Then you need to check out the blue Hadena Gang ITB Miata
I agree with Marc. ITBs sound spectacular
When that thing starts to hook it's going to make a lot of people mad.
Super excited to see your car on drag strips and race tracks against other cars.
After all these vibration issues, after all the building, it's back to performance and having fun!!!
At those performace levels you should start thinking about some serious aero mods. Not necessarily to increase downforce but to decrease lift. Ie. Front splitter + rubber strip air dam to stop air going under the car + piece of abs to cover front of wheels to stop air from going under the arches. Flat undertray with basic rear diffusser. Perhaps hood and fender vents. I'm planning to build ground effect/fan car Miata this year so If you're interested I'll keep you posted.
I gotta be honest, building a high HP Miata just seems like a huge PITA. I feel like your 1.6 Turbo was just perfect.
I help build a 1.6 that made 276 at the wheels
I'm currently deciding how far to go on my 1.8. The motor I had built is ready for 350+ but diff, axles, and trans are not. I will stay on street tires so hopefully it will hold together for a while.
What’s a PITA?
@@joshuaduplaa9033 Pain In the Arse
"but Craig"
We’ve got a Draggy. I guess we’ll be posting some times soon. The Miata we just picked up is a bone stock 1.6 but we can give you some comparison times from the 05 GT, the GT3, the CTS-V, and the ZL1 coming in this week 😬. Keep up the great work Miata Dad!
Yesssss data data data
Man I was already rewatching older vids, missed you Greg.
You need to find something to measure your G-forces on acceleration, and layer your RPM on each gear over that, so you know if you need to shift earlier in a certain gear or whatever
Racepak cl1 or cl2 will do that.
Pro tip for getting distortion free audio: Get an SM11 lav (or any other dynamic mic) and a Zoom F6 (or any other 32bit float audio recorder). The SM line from Shure can handle over 180db, and the Zoom F6 in 32bit can handle as loud a signal as you can throw at it. You also dont need to adjust audio levels because of how 32bit float works. Then we'll all be able to hear your car screaming crystal clear!
If I'm not mistaken, you attempted a British accent when you said 200kmh. I hate to break it to you, but the British use miles an hour, it's the rest of Europe that uses kilometres!
Thought it was German lmao
Toronto Motorsports Park is 40 mins from my house lol. Ive been watching your videos since you had your na miata with the 15x8 white rota grid v’s. It inspired me to get a bronze set for my na miata. My miata was my first car (which I still have) but I have an LS1 camaro and bmw 135 to mess around with now because I wanted more over 60mph lol.
Im just so glad that the car is up and running. Been following over the years. I know have my own 2002 ls with perf package....going turbi, but nothing as wild as yours...that this is a beast!
I'm so hyped for this series!
And you got me motivated to work on my turbo miata again with just that video
4:20 Friendly fire !!
you could try and soften up the rear suspension. It will give it more squat and more rear traction
its on ! 2 week for uk delivery …. ordered and can wait !!!
The bananas on the Hellcat 🤣
Man. I really need to watch more of your stuff. Been subbed for a long time, about to become a regular watcher. Built a 1.8 just like yours about 3 years ago, stupidly sold it, and lost contact with the owner. Only difference was I painted mine soul red. The nostalgia. Ugh. Love the video though man. Looking forward to binge watching.
So good to see you back again with the vibration prob solved! I'm starting my first Miata season this year! Sooo excited....!
I hold the record for quickest PO420 code
I have a bad feeling our boy is going to get a ticket for that series!!! At least he will have prove that it is FASTTT
Shift into second earlier for the 0-60
Not until the vehicle speed catches up to the wheel speed. Otherwise it's bog city!
I Feel that, maybe try feathering the throttle a slight bit when spinning to help gain that much needed traction
@@TheCarPassionChannel but you're bouncing of the rev limiter, my guy, twice per pull. Killing your times.
@@B0bLeeSw4gger hes bouncing off the limiter bcs hes waiting for traction...shift when the wheels are spinning and the rpms will drop down low and the car will bog, killing your times
Ya but he’s not spinning when he’s hitting the limiter. If he shifter just a hair sooner on both shifts he would be in the 5.5sec range easy
Your videos are very inspiring thanks I will be getting a Miata for my first car soon and thanks to the pick your turbo video and comprehensive videos I will also turbo charge it
Hey Greg, the Dragy will actually capture your time every .01 sec. or 100 times a sec. I'm stoked to see the car running so strong!
I believe 10hz is GPS refresh rate means 10 times per second, but Dragy measures acceleration times in .01s resolution, correct?
@@TheCarPassionChannel You might be right and I'm misunderstanding it. This is what it says on your link to the Amazon page: "High-performance GPS and GLONASS accurately measures your performance within 1/100th of a second." Either way I'm going to give it a try!
@@davidkris Yeah so it's referring to the actual timer portion. The GPS refresh is 10Hz. Even the super high end GPS is only 20Hz (20x/sec)
@@TheCarPassionChannel Thanks for explaining that. Still beats any app as you noted in the video. I'm into the idea of tracking how each change impacts performance, so definitely worth the $150!
@@davidkris Repeatable data is an excellent tuning tool
Nice work man. That VVT build and all of your other work. Outstanding. Wicked. This video made my day. No shizzit. Great analysis at the end footage. Good comparisons, also clearly explained. I'm mildly curious to hear about the final solution to the vibration issue.
6:33 that sound will never get old. I hope to god I will be able to see this car one day
I was wondering for a month where you've been. Good to see the Miata videos are cooking up again!
I see longer gearing benefitting this car the most since the torque becomes more subtle so you’ll get less wheel spin. On top of that as you stated less shifting. This car is a beast I don’t think people understand the power to weight ratio
Did you happen to see the Racepak cl1 or cl2 during your search? It's a recorder that uses gps and g-meter data to accurately record all sorts of info, including lap times. Hooks to an app on your phone to display it all. Also connects to your efi to record that data.
Check it out if you haven't
Miata Dad laying down some rips on the Moon 😂
Got a miata as my first car love to see what its capable of doing keep up great work🤟🏻🔥
With those kinds of HP, Boost, and killer numbers I could see you being on the moon doing pulls....
Nice to see ya back . MX5/Miata content we missed ya hahaha . I'm going the v6 supercharged rout since someone put a z3 front on my 5/miata lol . a Greek youtuber with a big beard stuffed a camaro v6 in to an mx5 and his scaring a lot of super cars on the Nuremberg ring lol looking forward to some track days
Dude your car sounds rowdy asf now stoked for you. Happy New Year 😊
That rev limiter tho..can't get over how this little miata from hell sounds! For me better than high built SR-s. BUILT IN A DRIVEWAY! Hope you are proud, Greg. Can't imagine how it feels to drive, but I'm so excited even just to think about it:)
Love the channel. I recently picked up a Miata which is totally not my style but I think it could be fun. I think your video editing and information is awesome man your doing a great job. I think you would really truly enjoy a fast car! I’ve always been a drag racer at heart as it can give awesome nerdy technical information and data to build off of. Plus going 0-60 feet in say a turbo LS mustang on a Holley terminator x in less then 1.4 seconds is probably the best and most memorable experience I’ve had in my life. Canyon runs are cool but you don’t really go brag to your buddies about your drive through the mountains.... I’m truly just trying to inspire you here no hate. Get after it and keep building cool shit!!!
Just sent my 2018 Club with BBR Stage 1 to Race Engineering for a full forged build. Nothing like yours since we’re just aiming at slightly over 300 WHP or ~350 crank but I’m super excited to get the car back.
from my studying the theme of measuring power of the car i foudnd out
torque is directly connected to G's you experience
by using your phone accelerometer u can make a graph of acceleration over time and then put it on graph with rpms and calculate power from that
it is power - air drag and engine interlan ressistance
but if u reccord G's when decelerating from the same gear and over lay it on the graph you can add them together and u get power made on piston
moon - the best choice? traction vs gravity...
that 100-200 kph time is insane!
To put that into perspective I went over to AutotopNL. They've got a long list of tuned cars(!) tested on a piece of German Autobahn and your 1st time was on par with an AMG A45. 2nd time was a tad faster than a SLS AMG Black Series. Just WOW!
The 100-200k is seriously my new favorite thing man I love scrolling that Facebook and checking out all the cars 😄
@@TheCarPassionChannel jeah its addictive ;) D.W.
We really need to see a race between your car and Chris's sr20 roadster, I know you're really far apart, literally couldn't be much further, but if you could somehow make it happen it would be awesome.
Edit: damn I guess I forgot the difference between your and you're...
Well hopefully they do it in late spring so everyone has sticky tires on.
Only clicked on the video to see if anyone mentioned Rudniks car haha
This would make really good content
"obey your local speed laws" the one thing living in germany is good for: Autobahn
Meanwhile dumbass german politicians trying to limit the speed to 130km/h. If they do that the german car industry will take a huge hit and it's one of the few big industrys still left in germany
@@4xHitler I live in the Netherlands.. Speed limit at 100 everywhere in the country starting from March :-p
I live in Germany. My Miata has only 126hp. *bad luck Brian face *
@@trunksbriefs8434 doesn't matter. What matters is the the car drinks half it's tank on a 200km autobahn drive
When that car finally hooks, you're going back to the future!
yes, a dragy tutorial would be nice. great job, bro.
I wish more tracks did roll racing. Cars like miatas really don't like doing digs. Yes, they can but if you build it like that you kill the rest of the driving ability it has. Doing a roll really gets to the meat of it showing how much power you have without (much) wheel spin.
Dude i just stumbled upon your channel and ughhh your Miata is AWESOME
Make 335 content! i didnt know you had one and i went from a miata to eventually an e92, second favorite car after the miata
I always hit like before I even watch the video haha
A measurement of acceleration is a better measurement of acceleration than a measurement of horsepower and torque (a dyno). Fascinating observation. Senpai me teacher.
Cant wait for further videos man!!! "Kilometres" sounded english "an hour" sounded Australian! crack up! Great vid man
WHOA WHOA WHOA WAIT A MINUTE CAN YOU DO A VIDEO ON THAT IPAD LOOKING THING IN YOUR CAR AND HOW YOU TURN YOU FUEL PUMP ON WITH IT
Backyard Garage mega squirt my G
Go Greg! 💪 Astonishingly fast vehicle you got there
I’m extremely curious about how our miatas would compare.
My ls2 Miata puts down around 375 whp all motor :) at 2450lbs
Guess I need to purchase a dragy to find out hehe
theburias dragy, by ru Paul...for more FABULOUS 0-60 times. Or something.
"But Craig, our Miatas arent as fast as yours". Good one Greg
So stoked for this!!!
Dunno if it’s your style but I think some mild aero would be really cool on your car. Especially if you are going to do track events coming up. An APR 250 or 200 with a splitter and flat bottom is a common setup
as soon as you said "bardle skeet" i clicked like. Always awesome content, Greg!
Another great video Gregg, looking forward to the next, n Happy New Year 🥳
Anyone with a mustang gonna post their times or too scared of Miata dad?
I'll do my Mustang and my Miata 😁 I have no shame in being slower than krayg.
Stephen Van Dorst Good man. Papa keurig has built a fast car
My dad's 10 speed mustang will have 700 by friday, so we'll see then...
Miatas Forever nice
But did you solve the vibration issue?
Edit:
Also maybe 400 is just a little too much for a Miata street build.
Yes, almost in Europe. I think 300 is the magic power for a "reliable" 6speed miata.
@John Daley thats doesnt sound like a street build
You take that back. Right now.
John Daley 400hp is only common when we’re talking about cars that are twice the weight
That's a great explanation of a dyno. A hellcat? You are nuts.
Can’t find em, grind em. 💪🏼
We all love you Creg.
As much as I respect this channel and all the work you’ve done this channel has just proven if you want this much horsepower build an LS cheaper more reliable way easier
Cheaper and easier is debatable. More reliable, definitely.
GO MIATA, great video Greg!
I know you are doing the best you can. But please make more frequent videos. I enjoy your content A LOT. Thank u.
“We’re on the moon” 💀😂
Sounds like 2020 is going to be your year :)
This didn’t age well
Dude, gotta get a new fire extinguisher, that empty mount is bugging me.
Sorry I had it in the passenger seat because it rattles, lol. I need to make little shims for it, that Drake mount leaves something to be desired.
@@TheCarPassionChannel Ah, as long as you have it. Hate to see a good car burn.
I played with a draggy once. I pulled a 5.09 seconds zero to 60 with my F250 launching it in 4x4. Think my best time with MkTurbo NB miata was 5.40~ 0-60.
Amazing what traction and torque does!
R.I.P O2 sensor haha great video as always Creig
So I did my timing belt like in one of your videos. I also fixed the idle time. My issue right now is that it sometimes feels slower than it should between 1-2k rpm, I will tighten the throttle cable a little more tomorrow since trottle response is delayed by 1 second
Ooooo I wanna play with my Miata! Only at 340whp but I think I’ll have to turn it up now to play :)
You must have a 1.8 🤣🤣🤣
garage worm 17 1.9 now lol bored over
@@FloridasFinest I help build a 276hp to the wheels 1.6 wich is like 300ish at the crank 😁 79mm 10.6 super techs and a 63mm turbo at 15psi
sweeeeeet been waiting on this video since your last one
I can imagine the low air density on the moon hindered your times, but that probably was counteracted by the lack of gravity.
Drag radials at the drag strip. That will make you hook. Also softer suspension your coil overs are probably stiff as hell that really doesn't help when it comes to hooking
This is an excellent example of why big power means nothing for 0-60 without reliable traction. You've made me realize that anything past 300hp is really unnecessary for a street Miata. Just look at the Hellcat. Without traction control and a crazy-good ZF auto, that car wouldn't do much better.
My Miata did 4.2 seconds on a somewhat dirty road with pebbles but I used my phone since I didn't have dragy at the time
I did a little quick math and if you strung the the 0-60 and the 100-200 together you would have turned a 14.04s 1/4 mile granted the 0-60 was only at 300 hp the tires were spinning so it wasn’t getting better with more power. You should run it at the strip before you change the tires and do a before and after.
It's really not worth the effort to take it to the track on these tires for a serious time, 2 hours round trip. I think your calculation might be a bit off though... how are you getting an ET from those two data points?
TheCarPassionChannel I took the initial I calculated the average acceleration of your 0-60 then it calculated your average acceleration of your 100-200. Then I calculated how far you traveled to get to 60 and subtracted it from 1/4 mile which gave me the distance you accelerated for the second interval. I assumed constant acceleration in both situations 0-60 and 100-200. Your 0-60 was limited by traction so its acceleration should be fairly constant. Now that being said if you were at a track that was prepped properly you coefficient of kinetic friction would be significantly higher and you acceleration would vary more with gear. Your 100-200 should be accurate given that I averaged it over the entire pull. So assuming you would have traction issues in 1 and 2 and you would not shift into 5th I think those numbers are close I would also point out if your meter is operating at 10 hz and it goes to 2 dreimal places it’s accuracy is bare minimum +- .11 seconds so it could be down to 13.8 range in error alone. I calculated that in your first pull you only pulled .45ish g’s a car that accelerated at 1g runs in the 9’s
@@andrewf8486 Your calculation accuracy is low unfortunately 🙂 you don't need to calculate any distances because they are given to you by the GPS data (shown on screen). 277 feet in 5.82s for the 0-60mph run, 989 feet in 6.94s for the 62-124mph run. Total of 1266 feet in 12.76s. At 124mph the last 54 feet will be travelled in 0.30s for a total ET of 13.06s.
TheCarPassionChannel alright I looked into my calculations. I made the error of using the slower of your two pulls, but the math was correct. I then used the faster 5.82s 0-60 and I calculated the 1/4 mile at 13.49 @ 128.8. I then looked into why my number and your number were different. When you did your calculation you took the first time period plus the second time period added them together and then assumed the car was traveling 124 mph. The error in your assumption was that the remaining distance you would need to travel would be at the end of the run and missed the time it would take to go from 60 to 62. Since your are traveling at half the speed as the end of the run your time was to quick. I know this means nothing lol. Can you set the draggy for 1/4 mile and repeat the test on the street with the same tires I am curious how close my estimate is?
Let the games begin! Be safe everyone!
going to look into getting one of these for sure
Under 10secs, still respectable. That shifter looks like it's hurting ya, 3rd-4th should be no-lift.
The 9.8 was on the 91 octane tune, the following pulls were on E85 and it did 6.9, and in a more recent video (slightly larger turbo) you can see a 5.85 second run 😃
Hellcat wow!!! maaann, so crazy your Miata, some 1/4 mile test please! Cheers!!
That thing sounds amazing
Quarter mile trap speed Greg that’s what I need to know 🙂
Dude you deserve more subs
i wanna see 1/4 miles
Also Texas, Arizona, or California ? Az? And that’s respectable, the 6.96 1-200mph run that should make you pretty satisfied, worth it
I'd ditch the hard top and lower the popups which are great air brakes 😉. (Even though we love 'em, because they're soooo cool 😁).
Damn really strong with the memes... 420 hp and 6.9 seconds on the 100-200km/h
lmaoooo
Great channel, informative video. Thank you for spending all that time and money, over and over again. I was all excited when I got my '95 MX5 planning a bunch of upgrades. But after watching endless Miata videos I observed that the happiest faces on guys having the most fun were on STOCK Miatas!!! Watch Doug DeMuro in a stock NA. Or watch Quinn of YT channel "The Slip Angle" laugh, hoot, and holler around the track in a stock NA: "Ultimate Miata Shootout Series Ep 4 - Stock Miata
." If you don't have 16 minutes, do yourself a huge favor and watch 5:30 - 8:35. Quinn has driven some of the best builds, and it puts all this chasing the "Ultimate Miata" in perspective, and makes the case for the stock version being a contender for that title. When I wanted more, I bought a z3, because I agree with old YT video "Old Top Gear - Best Handling Car." Along with a Clarkson video I can't find right now claiming the same, so don't hate on me for the opinions of some of the most experienced car critiques in all of the Auto world. Then when I wanted more I got a Boxster. All driven on twisty mountain two lane black tops, not in town. I kept all three, and don't regret spending the same money that it would take on one tricked out, skittish, experimental, problematic, less reliable maxed out Miata. Someone will correct me, but I might be able to beat this car from one stop light to the next in my 330xi in most weather conditions, I'm betting even ideal conditions. If I ever build my MX5 NA, it'll be a V6 swap. (Period)
Did you happen to try softening up your rear shocks? Maybe lower your tire pressure a few psi? Could net you a little more grip, and let the car squat a little better when you give it the beans.
Very cool, gonna have to see how the kmiata compares.
That would be awesome Carl!
Greg I like to know more about the draggy so I can test my turbo 1.6 Miata grip monster to see how it stacks up and how to improve on it 😊👍
What did your miata make in hp
I’m making 300hp but I had to turn the boost down to 2pounds do to bad weather when boost hits it gets super squarely in the rain with 235/50/15 R888 on all 4
@@jamesfcookjr me and my buddy made 300 at crank 276 at wheel with the 1.6 we have 225 40 18s on the back and 215 35 18s front but for the dyno we use his race tire 205 45 16 re71s