On the Titans-Rams trade: Don't forget that the titans used the 15th overall pick to then trade back up to 8th overall and select All-pro RT Jack Conklin.
@@tastyneck LT was also a beast and when this was more of a running league that mattered more, but nowadays anyone with good receivers and scheme and qb can throw the ball so well, that running it loses it's value... That was more of what I had in mind. Sure, nowadays RBs do not warrant high draft position, because in the grand scheme of the game now. Having a beast like Henry means too little when teams can just score in a hurry like it's no one's business. But there is a bright side to the changes occuring in the league, our favourite QBs can play into 50s xD
@@jbj7599 They weren't to the parents of the kid who tried to emulate that nifty feature while playing street football and came home with a tattered t-shirt seemingly every other damn day... ... I was that kid.
Rich has a cycle about the jets he starts out excited and optimistic then slowly develops in a depressed and broken man so he is the personification of a jets fan and we love him for it
Hey now, the Jets only had to kick themselves for 9 years passing on Orlando Pace. They did take D'Brickishaw Ferguson in 2006 and he had a nice career blocking for bad QBs and 1 year of Brett Favre
If I had a nickel for every sports video dropped in the last 48 hours that mentioned Left Eye burning down Andre Rison’s house, I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird it happened twice
@@phillipreed6599 And that first was used to take Derrick Barnett, who played outstanding as a rookie and helped recover _the_ fumble to give the Eagles their first Super Bowl
With that Rams-Jets trade in 1997, I think Bill Parcells was the coach-GM at the time. For someone who complained about "not being to buy the groceries," Parcells could not shop to save his life.
The missing episode of ESPN's "Who's Number 1", wish they'd bring that back too. Also as an Illinois fan, still embarrassed about Jeff George's pro career.
For #1, the Jets traded back to #6, but then traded that pick to Seattle who selected Walter Jones. The Jets traded back twice, passing on two Hall of Fame tackles in the same draft to select a linebacker who's best years were with another team.
If all your picks do better after moving on to another team, it might be time to clear the cobwebs out of the front office and coaching staff. (and the medical staff if they keep getting hurt.)
Apologies in advance for the nit that I'm about to pick, but Doug Williams threw 4 TDs in Super Bowl 22, not 5. The reason I know this is because I've studied the 49ers history enough to have burned into my skull that Joe Montana was the first QB to throw 5 TDs in a single Super Bowl.
And wasn't Steve Young the first to throw 6 or 7? I could just Google it, but I seem to remember that from watching it as a kid (and I'm a Bills fan, but still recall that record for whatever reason).
Mentioning the Elway trade would have been a way to mention who the Colts took at #4 - Chris Hinton, who was also involved in that aforementioned Jeff George trade.
Now I wanna know how many times a team traded for the 1st overall pick, but it wound up being that AFTER they got it. I know a few cases in the NBA, like when the Clippers were so desperate to get rid of Baron Davis they accidentally also gave up Kyrie Irving, and the fact that one of the picks in the Garnett-Pierce trade later gave Boston their first #1, which probably would’ve been Tatum anyway, but Philly wanted Fultz that badly.
I legit just heard about Andre Rison getting his house burnt down for the first time earlier this week from Secret Base’s Falcons documentary and now it’s been mentioned here too 😂
Only time two first overall picks traded for each other: Jared Goff to Detroit for Matthew Stafford to the LA Rams. Of note, they were the first former first overall picks traded since the Buffalo Bills traded OJ Simpson to the 49ers in 1978.
Trading most of your draft for Jared Goff... then missing out on Derrick Henry... and not having a first round pick since. But, the Rams can still say, "Hey, we're not the Jets, Bengals or Texans!"
Not even a mention of Mike Ditka who traded all of New Orleans draft to get Ricky Williams. Who wound up being one of the most expensive draft busts in history.
Since you did the 1st overall pick, what about ranking the top 10 Mr. Irrelevant picks? Draft picks are nothing more than magical beans and I'm willing to bet some of these guys at least turned into something.
Can't believe my Saints' Ricky Williams trade isn't here. I mean, he sucked given the context sure (but fr god bless Ricky Williams), but we got a great SI cover out of it
rusell maryland wasnt a hall of fame talent, but he wasnt a bust either, or even a disappointment really. the 1991 draft class barely had any player we would find worthy of the number one pick. you mentioned herman moore, yeah thats about it. aeneas williams was the only hall of famer in that draft class. its overstating to the point of falsification to call russell maryland a disappointment. not all first pick lineman are going to become reggie white or bruce smith.
Considering that Rams have a no.1 pick QB with Sam Bradford and still failed to make playoffs...for 12 years. Making playoffs 3 times with a SB appearance, it's worth it.
Because I'm that butt-head, Doug Williams threw a then super bowl record tying 4 touchdows in Super Bowl 22 against the Broncos (all in the 2nd quarter). The 5 Touchdown superbowl was Montana 2 years later (also against the Broncos). Sorry for your childhood Perna.
it is doubly humiliating for the jets on that last one since they traded the 6th overall they got from the rams to seattle, who drafted HoF walter jones
Jared Goff was a franchise QB, in the wrong with a coach who was also learning, Shannahan was a seasoned coordinator, who learned from his super bowl winning dad, so Goff thrived, he left there wasn't a proven mentor
Oof, Five points your Mets are setting at a record of 61-63 and 7 games behind the Reds for the last play-off spot and have to face off against the San Francisco Giants (80 and 44)
You should do a video on cities that actually tried to lure a pro team from any league, with disastrous results. Like when Richmond VA tried to lure the Redskins when Jack Kent Cooke was looking to build his new stadium and was having all the issues with doing it. They spent something like $20,000 on a feasibility study on doing it, and for $20 I could have told them in five seconds it was never going to happen.
Well because technically, Elway got drafted number one overall by the Colts. He only ended up with the Broncos after draft day. I don't disagree with you, since I'm a Broncos fan! But that's probably why Five Points excluded Elway for this list.
I almost most cases the trade is not the key. It is what you get from those picks and that is all about SCOUTING and DRAFTING. Imagine if Titans selected a bust with all the picks, then the Goff trade was good..? No, still all about scouting and drafting. Unless you trade a player head up for another player, there is no reason to rank the trade based on who you draft with the pick.
Stafford cost the Rams Goff, who cost them their 2016 first-round, two second-round, and third-round selections in this year's draft (15th, 43rd, 45th, and 76th) as well as Los Angeles's first- and third-round selections in the 2017 NFL Draft PLUS a 2021 third-round pick and two first-round picks in 2022 and 2023
On the Titans-Rams trade: Don't forget that the titans used the 15th overall pick to then trade back up to 8th overall and select All-pro RT Jack Conklin.
Great memory.
That #8 pick was owned by the Browns, who now have Conklin
@@theunitedstatesrailfan7423 How the tables have turned
And chose to keep an inferior LT over him
I a colts fan, but God damn I respect the titans
Teams trading up into the top picks...for a running back. Those were wild times, man.
I miss them... I became a fan of the sport because of RBs like Adrian Peterson and now offenses can get any kind of back and be fine.
Teams have figured out they can find a decent option in later rounds
@@azdarkforce I used to be Chargers fan and LT was drafted 5th overall, so I'm with you.
@@tastyneck LT was also a beast and when this was more of a running league that mattered more, but nowadays anyone with good receivers and scheme and qb can throw the ball so well, that running it loses it's value... That was more of what I had in mind. Sure, nowadays RBs do not warrant high draft position, because in the grand scheme of the game now. Having a beast like Henry means too little when teams can just score in a hurry like it's no one's business.
But there is a bright side to the changes occuring in the league, our favourite QBs can play into 50s xD
@Fries yup.then next year it was keyshawn johnson. luul l then every came to their senses, i tihnk, and basically only drafted QBs, Ts, or DEs since.
There's some kind of issue with this video. There's sudden jumps sometimes that omits parts.
Anybody else have Secret Base fresh on their minds when it came to Bartowski?
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And again for Andre Rison
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Did nobody else notice the editing during the number 9 segment?
Earl Campbell was so freaking good. Too bad he played on concrete covered with carpet.
Heard he can't even walk now
@@KMcNally117 That wasn't due to the terf, it was due to his spine narrowing thanks to a genetic condition.
Tear away jerseys were a joke
@@jbj7599 They weren't to the parents of the kid who tried to emulate that nifty feature while playing street football and came home with a tattered t-shirt seemingly every other damn day...
... I was that kid.
@@samhouston9162 Thank you for the update.
Rich Eisen had a rant about the Jets when they blew the lead for the #1 overall pick it was hysterical
Rich has a cycle about the jets he starts out excited and optimistic then slowly develops in a depressed and broken man so he is the personification of a jets fan and we love him for it
@@palehorse6655 He's the one sports guy I listen to just so I can hear the optimism slowly die throughout the season
Works out since Wilson is performing much better than Lawrence
@@GLee-oe3op it begins
@@GLee-oe3op lol
Gee the rams love trading up to number 1 😳
And now they refuse to even pick in the First round, trading the pick away for at least 3 straight years.
Hey now, the Jets only had to kick themselves for 9 years passing on Orlando Pace. They did take D'Brickishaw Ferguson in 2006 and he had a nice career blocking for bad QBs and 1 year of Brett Favre
If I had a nickel for every sports video dropped in the last 48 hours that mentioned Left Eye burning down Andre Rison’s house, I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird it happened twice
Sam Bradford being traded to the Eagles for Nick Foles. Ouch for both team.
Eagles traded Bradford for a 1st… Vikings and rams lost this one
@@phillipreed6599 And that first was used to take Derrick Barnett, who played outstanding as a rookie and helped recover _the_ fumble to give the Eagles their first Super Bowl
If Manning had come out a year early, the Jets would have fucked it up. Jets gotta jet.
A bit different but the Broncos trading for the player who was drafted numero uno overall worked out for them
GO BRONCOS🤙🏽
Most people don't know that John Elway was drafted by the Baltimore Colts, not the Denver Broncos.
@@darealconman and he still complains about losing "the game" to Cali on the band play.
5:35 can’t forget about them drafting a QB that threatened to play for the Yankees instead of for them so they traded him
With that Rams-Jets trade in 1997, I think Bill Parcells was the coach-GM at the time. For someone who complained about "not being to buy the groceries," Parcells could not shop to save his life.
Gotta love trading your whole draft for Mr goff
He has a nfc championship and Super Bowl appearance to show for it , what do the Titans have
He's having his best seasons as a Lion
You should've honorable mentioned Elway being drafted by the colts and then sent to Denver before the end of the first round
The missing episode of ESPN's "Who's Number 1", wish they'd bring that back too. Also as an Illinois fan, still embarrassed about Jeff George's pro career.
For #1, the Jets traded back to #6, but then traded that pick to Seattle who selected Walter Jones. The Jets traded back twice, passing on two Hall of Fame tackles in the same draft to select a linebacker who's best years were with another team.
Only the Jets...
If all your picks do better after moving on to another team, it might be time to clear the cobwebs out of the front office and coaching staff. (and the medical staff if they keep getting hurt.)
Would you look at that?
The Jets are the Jets.
As far as I can tell goff and Stafford was the only time that sort of trade ever happened
Apologies in advance for the nit that I'm about to pick, but Doug Williams threw 4 TDs in Super Bowl 22, not 5.
The reason I know this is because I've studied the 49ers history enough to have burned into my skull that Joe Montana was the first QB to throw 5 TDs in a single Super Bowl.
And wasn't Steve Young the first to throw 6 or 7? I could just Google it, but I seem to remember that from watching it as a kid (and I'm a Bills fan, but still recall that record for whatever reason).
@@corey2232 the only one to throw 6 TD in the SB
Mentioning the Elway trade would have been a way to mention who the Colts took at #4 - Chris Hinton, who was also involved in that aforementioned Jeff George trade.
Now I wanna know how many times a team traded for the 1st overall pick, but it wound up being that AFTER they got it.
I know a few cases in the NBA, like when the Clippers were so desperate to get rid of Baron Davis they accidentally also gave up Kyrie Irving, and the fact that one of the picks in the Garnett-Pierce trade later gave Boston their first #1, which probably would’ve been Tatum anyway, but Philly wanted Fultz that badly.
Every day I imagine…
I imagine what the Titans would be if they could manage player salary and keep talent…
It hurts to be a titans fan some times lol
Yeah, it's painful to think of sometimes 😩😩
Yall titans fans should be good rn considerin u have arguably the best offense
10:06 YOU BLEW IT!
I legit just heard about Andre Rison getting his house burnt down for the first time earlier this week from Secret Base’s Falcons documentary and now it’s been mentioned here too 😂
Lol that clip from Draft Day. Totally unrealistic trades but still an entertaining movie.
Imo if Manning gets an honorable mention, so should Elway.
"No the manning pick was different" - A giants fan
2:06 The Bengal-Æ
Only time two first overall picks traded for each other: Jared Goff to Detroit for Matthew Stafford to the LA Rams.
Of note, they were the first former first overall picks traded since the Buffalo Bills traded OJ Simpson to the 49ers in 1978.
That’s simply not true. My Seahawks literally traded for a former number one pick like 2 years ago. Clowney
@@DumbInvestors correct but they did not trade a former first rounder for Clowney
@@MercuriSM I was replying to the second statement
@@DumbInvestors ah my mistake
@@DumbInvestors Thanks for catching that...I was going off an article that omitted that Clowney was traded to Seattle.
I'm a jet's fan and I approve this message. 👍
"He Was Drafted The Best of The Best"
Tom Brady: Allow Me To Introduce Myself
thats a weird way to pronounce aaron rodgers
Trading most of your draft for Jared Goff... then missing out on Derrick Henry... and not having a first round pick since. But, the Rams can still say, "Hey, we're not the Jets, Bengals or Texans!"
Take the Bengals part out now lol
@@paranormal17 Yeah, this hasn't aged well, they really jumped up this season. Imagine if they had an O Line!
@@darkhawk4863We’re a few months away from finding that out.
This video had some slippery edition in the Ki-Jana Carter chapter
Awesome job on Goff!
thanks Taylor!
@@FivePointsVids Welcome!
11:00 Nice Billy Madison soundbite.
Talcum X
*4 first overall qbs, Elway was also a colts draft pick
Not even a mention of Mike Ditka who traded all of New Orleans draft to get Ricky Williams. Who wound up being one of the most expensive draft busts in history.
Ricky was pick five not one
Wait this isn’t a stadium video
Since you did the 1st overall pick, what about ranking the top 10 Mr. Irrelevant picks? Draft picks are nothing more than magical beans and I'm willing to bet some of these guys at least turned into something.
The best mr irrelevant has been Ryan Succop
Flemlo raps or Kto made this video already
Can't believe my Saints' Ricky Williams trade isn't here. I mean, he sucked given the context sure (but fr god bless Ricky Williams), but we got a great SI cover out of it
Rickey wasn’t the number one pick he was pick five
@@richieherrera2373 Shit well you know what
That's embarassing
rusell maryland wasnt a hall of fame talent, but he wasnt a bust either, or even a disappointment really. the 1991 draft class barely had any player we would find worthy of the number one pick. you mentioned herman moore, yeah thats about it. aeneas williams was the only hall of famer in that draft class. its overstating to the point of falsification to call russell maryland a disappointment. not all first pick lineman are going to become reggie white or bruce smith.
Now I’d like to see nfl teams best or worst top 3 draft picks.
5th do trading up to the #2 pick next
Considering that Rams have a no.1 pick QB with Sam Bradford and still failed to make playoffs...for 12 years. Making playoffs 3 times with a SB appearance, it's worth it.
Man, I know the Clippers deservedly earned their franchise joke status but the Jets, with every new move and old move truly vie for that title.
That bit where you showed Talcum X as Sean King had me dieing.
I’m convinced it keeps cutting off footage
Because I'm that butt-head, Doug Williams threw a then super bowl record tying 4 touchdows in Super Bowl 22 against the Broncos (all in the 2nd quarter). The 5 Touchdown superbowl was Montana 2 years later (also against the Broncos). Sorry for your childhood Perna.
Jeff George, a well known meme QB.
Not as much as Sanchez, though.
@@honolulublues5548 Sanchez will never live down the buttfumble.
@@honolulublues5548 or Nathan Peterman
@@RealBlueony or the NVP
Imagine in 1990 if I told you one day Randall Cunningham would be benched for Jeff George. Enter the Vikings
Jared Goff eventually turned into Matthew Stafford, so after trading like 5 first round picks it'll be worth it of Stafford wins a SB lol
oh man LOL that manning jets shot… it looks so strange thinking about how he could’ve been on the jets
A wise man once told me: "Having potential means you ain't done shit yet."
Random saw Russell Maryland this week. Apparently his son plays for Southlake Carrol in tx and they are in our district.
This video has at least three skipped moments. Just the info is cut out and skipped to another part. Might want to fix and re upload
It's probably from copyright strikes
Jets fan here. Thank you for the entertainment - we Just Endure The Suffering (JETS)
I'm listening to Irving Fryar's Crime In Sports episode right now 😁😁😁
“Left eye burned my house down “. 😝😝😝
Wow never been this early to a FivePoints vid!!! Hyped!
50 feet of crap 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
As a Tampa native I appreciate all of the Sean King references.
“Draft Day” is one of those good bad movie.
The RBT clip lmao
it is doubly humiliating for the jets on that last one since they traded the 6th overall they got from the rams to seattle, who drafted HoF walter jones
It goes 5 point vids > pissingtree > scooter > everyone else
Except us Packer fans love Grossi
Goff Had a Solid 3 years and he gets wayyyy to much hate he has never been bad
To properly pronounce “Bartkowski,” see old NFL Films reels, with Harry Kalas.
Bartkowski's hail mary to white shoes johnson
Hey five points when you said George kunz at 3:46 is what RUclips flagged your vid for
Lil dickys fro💀
Teams should trade up to the 1st pick and then trade it for a bunch of late round pick. Ultimate power move
Jared Goff was a franchise QB, in the wrong with a coach who was also learning, Shannahan was a seasoned coordinator, who learned from his super bowl winning dad, so Goff thrived, he left there wasn't a proven mentor
Do you watch your videos before you upload them? You had a bunch of mistakes in editing and it resulted in a lot of information being missing😕
I think it was because of copyright claims
Am I tripping rn or is the editing on this video fucked up a little bit his voice overs are being clipped short
So how many picks did the rams trade to both get AND get rid of Goff?
What's with the skips?
Im guessing there was a copyright issue hence why some of the highlights were pixelated
Oof, Five points your Mets are setting at a record of 61-63 and 7 games behind the Reds for the last play-off spot and have to face off against the San Francisco Giants (80 and 44)
I missed this one
Those trading cards 💯
"The jets would have had the honor of wasting Mannings career"
Best line I've heard in awhile
Secret base fans already knew about Bartkowski😏😏
the Manning-Rivers trade was good for the Chargers. Manning didn't want to be in SD, and that is grounds for a toxic locker room
When is Manscape gonna make you the face of the company, big man? You must be better than their whole ad team.
You should do a video on cities that actually tried to lure a pro team from any league, with disastrous results. Like when Richmond VA tried to lure the Redskins when Jack Kent Cooke was looking to build his new stadium and was having all the issues with doing it. They spent something like $20,000 on a feasibility study on doing it, and for $20 I could have told them in five seconds it was never going to happen.
Wait what? Didn't even mention Elway? The guy went to 5 superbowls and is one of the best QBs ever
Well because technically, Elway got drafted number one overall by the Colts. He only ended up with the Broncos after draft day.
I don't disagree with you, since I'm a Broncos fan! But that's probably why Five Points excluded Elway for this list.
@@ETibbs11 fair enough but should have at least made the honorable mentions. He spent about as much time on the colts as manning did on the chargers
Bruh fix the cuts in the first section smh
Archie Manning will be the first 99.99% risk free talent potential #1 draft pick
To add to the Goth one. Well now they traded him for Stafford and a trip to the Super bowl sooooo
Didn’t Seattle trade up to the Jets 6th pick & take Walter Jones?
Evaluating the Vick for Tomlinson trade: WOOF!!!!!
I almost most cases the trade is not the key. It is what you get from those picks and that is all about SCOUTING and DRAFTING. Imagine if Titans selected a bust with all the picks, then the Goff trade was good..? No, still all about scouting and drafting. Unless you trade a player head up for another player, there is no reason to rank the trade based on who you draft with the pick.
Can’t believe Broncos to the Colts for John Elway isn’t on here…
The Bartkowski one spoiled the flacons thing on secret base for me
Great topic!
Stafford cost the Rams Goff, who cost them their 2016 first-round, two second-round, and third-round selections in this year's draft (15th, 43rd, 45th, and 76th) as well as Los Angeles's first- and third-round selections in the 2017 NFL Draft PLUS a 2021 third-round pick and two first-round picks in 2022 and 2023
Nice shout out to Talcom-X lol
Rams moved to LA and were like "aight, let's start trying now"