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Steve Spurrier as a player: Really good in college, bad in the NFL. Steve Spurrier as a coach: Really good in college, bad in the NFL. At least he's consistent...
@@bobwalsh3751 7/10 is well above average for any given coach in the NFL. A 7 coach is running a consistent playoff team, not necessarily a deep contender but consistently .500+ and making it to wild card round almost every year at the very least. Spurrier is more of a 5.5 to me, 7 can't really be considered "eh".
Carson Palmer may be overshadowed by playing in the era of Brees, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, and Tom Brady, but his career was very good. 14 seasons, 13th all time in passing TD, 14th all time in passing yards. He didn't have much playoff success, but he almost certainly had an above average career for a number 1 overall pick.
Palmer definitely doesn't get the credit he deserves. He had quite a few pretty good seasons with the Bengals and had that resurgence in Oakland and Arizona. 6 or 7 4000 yd seasons, 3 probowls, even led the NFL in TD's and comp% in 05.
@@unkledoda420 there were a lot of really good QBs from the 2000s that are over looked and forgotten because they arent Brady, Manning and Brees. I think it's a shame. Imo ppl put way too much weight on super bowl rings. football isnt like basketball where one player can be the difference between a championship season and a loss. even if a QB has a game winning drive or TD guess what if it wasnt for the defense they wouldnt even be in that position, if it wasnt for the receiver catching it they wouldn't win, if it wasnt for the kicker, punter, line man etc etc. I could go on but my point is they shouldnt matter that much when discussing how good someone was. I mean do people bring up super bowl rings when talking about any other position in football? so why is it just QBs?
This man, I started watching him around same time with Urinatingtree back in 2017, and he's now at 300K, like just damn.. It's just amazing to see road to higher numbers
I'd like to shout out an honorable mention - The Johnny Manziel "scramble and dodge until you just heave it up on a prayer" skillset didn't translate well into the NFL... Show me the Money!
He was improving over his rookie year, and then Gase came in and Darnold shit the bed that year. Gase ruins everything he touches, and I hope he comes back to succeed in Carolina... No one deserves to be ruined by that googly eyed doofus 😒
@@reppingl Yup. Also, has this guy never heard of Peyton Manning? Fine, Darnold wasn't allowed to call audibles. I just wish more people would give other deserving QBs the benefit of the doubt. Despite that they _say,_ Poles & Eberflus clearly *acted* in ways that Clearly Indicate they wanted Justin Fields out.
Rodney Peete was a decent, if unspectacular NFL quarterback. While he has a poor TD to INT ratio, he does have a career winning record, and was a solid backup.
Yeah ! Ole Peete ! Rodney Is an 80s NFL staple... Yes he was a solid QB.. You never knew when he would beat your team unexpectedly... I haven't heard that name since Christian Okeye days.. Thanks for giving a shout out to us under dogs you can't count out of the fight
I don't know if Tebow really belongs on the list as a tight end. As for QB, I still think if he entered the league today and was given a Taysom Hill type sub package, it may have worked out. The problem was drafting him in the first, which miscast him.
Imagine a reality where Tebow stuck with baseball (he played in High School), his time in the Mets’ farm system showed that he had talent, but needed to work on the fundamentals. Hitting needed some work, but he could hit some monster home runs.
Tebow was a crap QB who kept getting bailed out by Demyrius Thomas, who ALSO bailed out by his Offensive Coordinator, who himself was bailed out by Peyton Manning and Philip Rivers.
@@joermnyc the problem was that Tebow couldn't read a defense if it was printed on the back of a cereal box. It's very doubtful he would have ever been able to read pitches that any competent MLB pitcher could throw either.
College coaches that fail to grasp that they're not really the boss of the guy making 15M a year with 60 M of his contract guaranteed don't really do that well in the NFL. That guy isn't intimidated by you like he was as 18 year old at State U .. because it's much easier to fire your ass than to cut him and take a bath of a cap hit ..... and he knows that.
In a game show called The Chase, a former college Jeopardy champion faced off against Ken Jennings. Ken told him that he may be a champion in the college leagues, but now he was in the KenFL.
My favorite college rule is the one foot in rule, that was implemented in the NFL it would allow teams to put up wayyy more points than the current rule
The one foot rule is one that I hate the most in college. The morre rules they add to help the offense is what's making the NFL less fun to watch. If I wanted to see more points and next to no defense on the field , I'd watch arena football .
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0:01 College -> NFL 0:30 It’s Fall 1:37 Steve Spurrier We’re gonna pass the ball 🏈 2:38 Weakness: Blitz 3:37 Timothy Richard Tebow • Incomplete Magic Man 5:26 Buccaneers 2012 •Schiano NO QUIT mentality 7:12 Chip Kelly FAST HURRY ZZZZZOOOMMMM 8:54 USC QBs Matt Lienart, Matt Barkley Sam Darnold? (Come on man, you were so good in college) Weakness: Pressure pressure pressure 11:43 That’s it!
I dont get why if it was so obvious Tebow wasnt going to be good in the nfl why tf did the Broncos take him and in the first round too. what were they thinking???
Yea Carson Palmer and the Bengals were just good enough that they didn't suck, but not good enough to be good just years of mediocrity. Just like Marvin Lewis. Palmer's best years were in Arizona by far imo and that was towards the end of his career.
Well put. Palmer had a borderline MVP season in 2015. In Cincinnati, he was good enough to be the QB1, but he also was on one of the dysfunctional teams in the NFL. Even with Chad Johnson and Houshmandzadeh as his receivers, he knew he was going nowhere in that franchise and I don’t blame him for wanting to go elsewhere.
@@alexromero2632 man fr. Crazy thing is I want both the rams and bengals to win. Pulling for the rams bc Stafford needs a ring. Damn good qb and got tortured for 10-11 years in Detroit. Plus I think bengals are gonna have more chances in the next few seasons. They look good
Being a serious numbers guy, the Tebow hype pissed me off even at the time. I mean, sure, he had a couple late comebacks to his name, but he wouldn't have needed to make those comebacks if he played at even a league-average level.
College plays can be brought into the NFL. Shit, Andy Reid adapted a ton of college-style plays over the course of his tenure in KC. The shovel pass has become a thing in the NFL because Reid showed how to implement it. Big Red ran a play from the 1949 Rose Bowl in Super Bowl 54.
Every play in the modern nfl started in college. Football is a trickle up sport where the offenses are always 10 years behind. Every team is a spread team like purdue back in the early 2000s in 10 years the spread veer will be the norm
@@adamw5803 It's all about scheming and practice. Wonder why the Chiefs can run a screen like no one else can? He personally shows where every offensive lineman needs to be during it.
As an eagles fan, definitely wrong about chips offense in the NFL. It actually worked and many defenses were gassed trying to stop them. The actual problem came when he got ultimate power and started dumping the players that were perfect for his offense (Jackson, McCoy, maclin and even Foles to an extent) That’s were he failed. He was an awful GM and I believe he didn’t want to win with “Andy Reid’s team”
He repeatedly said that he didn't care about time of possession, and in his one playoff game, the Iggles took the lead with over four minutes left, just to watch the Saints drive down the field in freezing weather and get the winning field goal as time expired. Even without the terrible personnel decisions, he was wearing his team out.
Had a front row seat to that Chip Kelly experiment as an Eagles fan. You can chalk him up on the "ruling with an iron fist" thing, too, since he was trying to control the players' diets, to the point of trying to stop them all eating red meat and too many carbs... in Philly... Home of the cheesesteak. Also, when an offense can be 1 or 2 in yards (i forget which they were), something like 5th to 8th in scoring... and dead last in time of possession, something doesn't add up... Then, of course, for his offense based around speed, he systematically got rid of the fastest players on our team: DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin and LeSean McCoy... all driven off or traded by Kelly. Take the best players out of a speed-based offense, and it all goes to hell. I've never coached a day in my life and *I* could have told Kelly that. He was a bad coach with one trick that put the defense in bad spots constantly, and an even worse GM. Not that this is a sore spot for Eagles fans or anything.... >.>
As someone who grew up watching those early 2000s Bengals teams, I definitely think Carson was an elite talent, especially with prime Ocho & Houshmandzadeh to toss to. His later Renaissance in Arizona proved that. What held him back really was just the long list of injuries, sadly. Healthy Carson was amazing--that 06 Bengals squad was Superbowl caliber--but he was off the field too often.
Spurrier had two main problems: 1) he was lazy 2) at Florida he had great athletes because he could pretty much get whomever he wanted (like Nick Saban and Dabo Sweeney now), but in the NFL everybody has great athletes. It takes coaching and game planning by coaching staffs to utilize those athletes properly. And Spurrier thought since he was ‘The ‘Ole Ball Coach’ he didn’t have to make the effort championship coaches did.
Spurrier's offense wasn't new, similar schemes were run successfully before, most notably by Don Coryell. You are right that he didn't have to work hard to beat most of the one dimensional coaches in college he faced. When he got to the NFL, with coaches who could analyze everything he did, he was like a beginning chess player against a Grandmaster.
Lou Holtz has admitted that his experiences as a College Coach left him unprepared to be a NFL head coach and said that it was one of his mistakes to take the Jets HC job. However he did also say the experience was worthwhile as a learning experience and taught him that he was, personality wise, better suited being a College Coach.
The funny thing about the Bucs going zero blitz against the Giants in victory formation is that Madden won't even let you do that. If your opponent is in victory formation, even if you call engage eight in a 4-4 or 5-2 set, your players won't go hard. They'll take a step forward and then stop
That blitz on the kneeldown was crazy. I forgot Coughlin was giving him a talking to at the game-end handshake until I saw your clip. You usually don't see that between coaches.
Chip Kelly himself didn’t work, but his offense is the new normal. People used to watch those 2010s Oregon teams and their jaws would hit the floor cause they would see hurry up shotgun three wide read options. The spread is everywhere now.
If you really want to "fight to win," maybe you should do enough in the first 59 minutes of the game that you don't have to see the opposing team kneel on you.
You should've throw OHIO STATE qbs in there as well .... here is the list of QBs that came out of Ohio St to the NFL since 1982: Art Schlichter, Mike Tomczak, Tom Tupa, Kent Graham, Bobby Hoying, Joe Germaine, Craig Krenzel, Troy Smith, Terrell Pryor, Cardale Jones and Dwayne Haskins Justin Fields has a shot to turn this around but.....he was a transfer so, would that really count??
A bit morbid to think about, and we’ll probably never know: if Dwayne Haskins hadn’t died, would the Steelers have drafted Kenny Pickett? They’d already anointed Trubisky as the starter, and also had Mason Rudolph. Granted none of them had Kenny’s level of success (if you can call it that), but I wonder how their decision making might have been altered by that event.
Best guy to come out of USC since OJ was Troy Polamalu. Carson Palmer had a very good career but just got stuck in a shot city. And him and Troy were roommates at USC too
I was expecting #1 - The Triple Option, because they tried it, it didn't work, and I'm old enough to remember that. Then it's #1 - USC Quarterbacks. Mic Drop. FivePoints Vids for the win.
If Tebow could have fixed his throwing motion, got proper grooming under a good QB, a good coaching staff, and adapted to the NFL'S style, he might have had a chance. His playing style is more common in today's NFL. He was just unfortunately, ahead of the schedule. Not saying he would have been elite but definitely could have been a potential starter with proper training.
If you really want a laugh, go search Bill Peterson - great coach at Florida State, terrible coach for the Houston Oilers, and master of confusing, uninspiring speeches that make no sense Favorite quote of his: “You guys pair up in groups of three, then line up in a circle” 😂😂
How do you mention USC qbs in the NFL without not using the opportunity to bring up butt fumble?! I don't care what anybody says... That sh will never get old.
Bengals in play offs so the heck with Palmer. And as life long Buckeye fan, and we have a long stories history of QBs not working in the NFL we can compete against USC
I can remember when Spurrier tried the no pass blocking approach as coach of the Redskins ....... turned out DL / LB were fine with killing his unprotected QB ... the QB not so happy.
Chip Kelly's hurry up offense vs Pete Caroll's defense who (Caroll) has already saw this one trick gimmick in the Pac-10. Result, the Seahawk's beat the Eagles again in Prime Time on their own field holding them to just 139 yards of offense and winning 24-14 on Dec 7, 2014.
Matt Cassel, I feel, doesn't really deserve to be called a bust. In 2008 he led the Patriots to an 11-5 record when Tom Brady was injured, only missing the playoffs because of the Miami Dolphins catching everyone off guard with the Wildcat offense, and was a Pro Bowler in 2010 with Kansas City. It seems to me he was decent, but not great.
Tebow never gets to shock the Steelers if dimwit Marion Barber III doesn't run the hell out of bounds for the Bears. I try not to remember this but it's hard to forget. Thanks, Bears. Thanks.
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FivePoints Vids sounds like you channeled Norm McDonald at the end of this one. Excellent
Steve Spurrier as a player: Really good in college, bad in the NFL.
Steve Spurrier as a coach: Really good in college, bad in the NFL.
At least he's consistent...
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Correction: Spurrier was AMAZING as a player in college and eh 7/10 in the NFL. As a college coach, great; NFL coaching was deplorable by comparison.
@@bobwalsh3751 7/10 is well above average for any given coach in the NFL. A 7 coach is running a consistent playoff team, not necessarily a deep contender but consistently .500+ and making it to wild card round almost every year at the very least. Spurrier is more of a 5.5 to me, 7 can't really be considered "eh".
@@ScentSense He said his playing career was 7/10, not his coaching.
He was by far the best coach in the aaf. shows how important a good coach really is
Carson Palmer may be overshadowed by playing in the era of Brees, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, and Tom Brady, but his career was very good. 14 seasons, 13th all time in passing TD, 14th all time in passing yards. He didn't have much playoff success, but he almost certainly had an above average career for a number 1 overall pick.
Palmer definitely doesn't get the credit he deserves. He had quite a few pretty good seasons with the Bengals and had that resurgence in Oakland and Arizona. 6 or 7 4000 yd seasons, 3 probowls, even led the NFL in TD's and comp% in 05.
And the fact he was in Cincy and Arizona didn't help em. But yea he was damn good! Troy Polamalu's roommate at USC
“He didn’t have much playoff success” nah he sucked
@@zew1414 His time in Arizona was very successful.
@@unkledoda420 there were a lot of really good QBs from the 2000s that are over looked and forgotten because they arent Brady, Manning and Brees. I think it's a shame. Imo ppl put way too much weight on super bowl rings. football isnt like basketball where one player can be the difference between a championship season and a loss. even if a QB has a game winning drive or TD guess what if it wasnt for the defense they wouldnt even be in that position, if it wasnt for the receiver catching it they wouldn't win, if it wasnt for the kicker, punter, line man etc etc. I could go on but my point is they shouldnt matter that much when discussing how good someone was. I mean do people bring up super bowl rings when talking about any other position in football? so why is it just QBs?
This man, I started watching him around same time with Urinatingtree back in 2017, and he's now at 300K, like just damn.. It's just amazing to see road to higher numbers
Thanks for sticking with me Alex
Same here man I have loved watching five and tree
same here love both of em
I'd like to shout out an honorable mention - The Johnny Manziel "scramble and dodge until you just heave it up on a prayer" skillset didn't translate well into the NFL... Show me the Money!
In Sam Darnold's defense, nobody would be able to hack it with Adam Gase calling the shots
He was improving over his rookie year, and then Gase came in and Darnold shit the bed that year. Gase ruins everything he touches, and I hope he comes back to succeed in Carolina... No one deserves to be ruined by that googly eyed doofus 😒
@@ScentSense darnold stinks now, even when he’s away from Gase
@@reppingl Yup. Also, has this guy never heard of Peyton Manning? Fine, Darnold wasn't allowed to call audibles. I just wish more people would give other deserving QBs the benefit of the doubt. Despite that they _say,_ Poles & Eberflus clearly *acted* in ways that Clearly Indicate they wanted Justin Fields out.
Rodney Peete was a decent, if unspectacular NFL quarterback. While he has a poor TD to INT ratio, he does have a career winning record, and was a solid backup.
I grew up a Panthers fan and too this day my dad says the most underrated Panthers QB was Rodney Peete.
His wife is hot
@@jonpike9991 Exactly. You can't be a shitty QB and snag Holly Robinson!
Yeah ! Ole Peete ! Rodney Is an 80s NFL staple... Yes he was a solid QB.. You never knew when he would beat your team unexpectedly... I haven't heard that name since Christian Okeye days.. Thanks for giving a shout out to us under dogs you can't count out of the fight
@@jonpike9991 what a legacy 🤯
I don't know if Tebow really belongs on the list as a tight end. As for QB, I still think if he entered the league today and was given a Taysom Hill type sub package, it may have worked out. The problem was drafting him in the first, which miscast him.
He’s on the list as a qb
Imagine a reality where Tebow stuck with baseball (he played in High School), his time in the Mets’ farm system showed that he had talent, but needed to work on the fundamentals. Hitting needed some work, but he could hit some monster home runs.
Tebow was a crap QB who kept getting bailed out by Demyrius Thomas, who ALSO bailed out by his Offensive Coordinator, who himself was bailed out by Peyton Manning and Philip Rivers.
@@joermnyc the problem was that Tebow couldn't read a defense if it was printed on the back of a cereal box. It's very doubtful he would have ever been able to read pitches that any competent MLB pitcher could throw either.
@@joermnyc Tebow is all raw athleticism with no fundamentals and no desire to learn. He's a joke and deserves to be labelled as such.
That whole tebow bit with the choir was perfect *chefs kiss*
College coaches that fail to grasp that they're not really the boss of the guy making 15M a year with 60 M of his contract guaranteed don't really do that well in the NFL. That guy isn't intimidated by you like he was as 18 year old at State U .. because it's much easier to fire your ass than to cut him and take a bath of a cap hit ..... and he knows that.
In a game show called The Chase, a former college Jeopardy champion faced off against Ken Jennings. Ken told him that he may be a champion in the college leagues, but now he was in the KenFL.
My favorite college rule is the one foot in rule, that was implemented in the NFL it would allow teams to put up wayyy more points than the current rule
In the words of Chiseled Adonis, “In College, one foot=Ten Toes!
The rules are already heavily in favor of offenses, plus toe tap catches are so much cooler in the NFL.
@@iels7346 to each their own. I rather enjoy the college rule but have the pro rule during overtime
@@0fficialdregs definitely not. The rules are already inconsistent enough without doing it on purpose
The one foot rule is one that I hate the most in college. The morre rules they add to help the offense is what's making the NFL less fun to watch. If I wanted to see more points and next to no defense on the field , I'd watch arena football .
Seeing Chip Kelly in a Niners hat still hurts my eyes. Our worst season ever, but it did get Baalke fired
And really, isn't that the happy ending everyone wanted?
And they hired him so quickly after the Eagles fired him.
Shanahan sadly is slowly becoming like Kelly...predictable offensively.
That transitional period going from Harbaugh -> Tomsula -> Kelly was painful. It was horrible to watch.
@@Warmaker01 I can't stand the 49ers (Montana was better than Brady) and I couldn't stand watching that happen to your team. Tomsula the Kelly.
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In all seriousness, congrats on the milestone!
0:01 College -> NFL
0:30 It’s Fall
1:37 Steve Spurrier
We’re gonna pass the ball 🏈
2:38 Weakness: Blitz
3:37 Timothy Richard Tebow
• Incomplete Magic Man
5:26 Buccaneers 2012
•Schiano NO QUIT mentality
7:12 Chip Kelly
FAST HURRY ZZZZZOOOMMMM
8:54 USC QBs
Matt Lienart, Matt Barkley
Sam Darnold? (Come on man, you were so good in college)
Weakness: Pressure pressure pressure
11:43 That’s it!
You're a legend.
Some heroes don't wear capes
I dont get why if it was so obvious Tebow wasnt going to be good in the nfl why tf did the Broncos take him and in the first round too. what were they thinking???
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In 2012, Tim Tebow was traded to the New York Jets.
I think I found the problem. The Jets buttfumbled his development.
You can't develop a rock. No matter how shiny you polish it, it is still just a rock.
He wasn't traded to the Jets. He signed as a free agent.
Yea Carson Palmer and the Bengals were just good enough that they didn't suck, but not good enough to be good just years of mediocrity. Just like Marvin Lewis. Palmer's best years were in Arizona by far imo and that was towards the end of his career.
Well put. Palmer had a borderline MVP season in 2015. In Cincinnati, he was good enough to be the QB1, but he also was on one of the dysfunctional teams in the NFL. Even with Chad Johnson and Houshmandzadeh as his receivers, he knew he was going nowhere in that franchise and I don’t blame him for wanting to go elsewhere.
4 months later and here the bengals are playing in the afc championship game. Shits crazy haha. Go bengals. Beat the queefs! #TitanUp
@@pansexualdickhaver6878 Now the super bowl!? What? N one seen that coming.
@@alexromero2632 man fr. Crazy thing is I want both the rams and bengals to win. Pulling for the rams bc Stafford needs a ring. Damn good qb and got tortured for 10-11 years in Detroit. Plus I think bengals are gonna have more chances in the next few seasons. They look good
8:41 Excuse you! Chip Kelly won *two* games in SF!
(they were both against the rams)
(and it got Baalke fired)
This needs to be updated to include Urban Meyer's antics.
Buckeye QBs so far worse in the NFL than the Trojans. Just saying.
Art Schlichter said I will take that bet.
lol i just listed all them in a comment before reading this...always good to see another man of culture
ohio st qbs have rarely been highly touted. outside of haskins, fields and schlichter, they’ve mostly been mid round picks at best
Still cant believe i watched mark sanchez beat brady and peyton manning…..IN THE PLAYOFFS.
Being a serious numbers guy, the Tebow hype pissed me off even at the time. I mean, sure, he had a couple late comebacks to his name, but he wouldn't have needed to make those comebacks if he played at even a league-average level.
Sometimes it's not easy to spot rank idiocy, but people advocating for Tim Tebow to play QB in the NFL make it very, very easy.
It feels like it's been a long time since Adam did a traditional 5 Point format on these videos.
Tim Tebow has won as many playoff games as the Detroit Lions have in 65 years
The Nick Sabin era in Miami was so forgettable, that’s how bad it was
What the Dolphins did was INSANELY idiotic buy cutting Drew Brees for a failed physical. Saban was right to get the hell out.
@@rifleman1002 it's easy to say that now . Lots of people passed on Brees , no one figured how good he would be after that injury.
@@feck2594 It's even easier to say that since Brees is one of the better qbs in league history and Saban well you know.
He knows how to win.
One guy from the Steelers pregame radio show referred to the Spurrier coached Skins as the "Red Gators" hahaha
I've used manscape for months and there hasn't been one woman that was impressed with that area, granted I haven't been with any women in months
…….NOOOOOOOOOOO
College plays can be brought into the NFL. Shit, Andy Reid adapted a ton of college-style plays over the course of his tenure in KC. The shovel pass has become a thing in the NFL because Reid showed how to implement it. Big Red ran a play from the 1949 Rose Bowl in Super Bowl 54.
Andy Reid is also one of the best coaches in the NFL. Just because he can pull off college plays doesn't mean they're going to work for everyone
Every play in the modern nfl started in college. Football is a trickle up sport where the offenses are always 10 years behind.
Every team is a spread team like purdue back in the early 2000s in 10 years the spread veer will be the norm
@@adamw5803 It's all about scheming and practice. Wonder why the Chiefs can run a screen like no one else can? He personally shows where every offensive lineman needs to be during it.
Steve Spurrier's playstyle was like the Run & Shoot ran by the Houston Oilers
Who ultimately won jack and shit playing that way ....
College is a place to learn?
"There's a time and place for everything, and its called college" - Chef, South Park.
The wildcat, bobby patrino, Vince Young, the wildcat, most Notre Dame draft picks from 2000 & on.
As an eagles fan, definitely wrong about chips offense in the NFL. It actually worked and many defenses were gassed trying to stop them. The actual problem came when he got ultimate power and started dumping the players that were perfect for his offense (Jackson, McCoy, maclin and even Foles to an extent)
That’s were he failed. He was an awful GM and I believe he didn’t want to win with “Andy Reid’s team”
Fair
He repeatedly said that he didn't care about time of possession, and in his one playoff game, the Iggles took the lead with over four minutes left, just to watch the Saints drive down the field in freezing weather and get the winning field goal as time expired. Even without the terrible personnel decisions, he was wearing his team out.
His offenses couldn’t sustain that tempo through the season. His own team got gassed. But ok sport
Well it worked at Oregon until we went up against teams like Ohio state LSU and Auburn
"mark dirty Sanchez" literally had me lol
Had a front row seat to that Chip Kelly experiment as an Eagles fan. You can chalk him up on the "ruling with an iron fist" thing, too, since he was trying to control the players' diets, to the point of trying to stop them all eating red meat and too many carbs... in Philly... Home of the cheesesteak. Also, when an offense can be 1 or 2 in yards (i forget which they were), something like 5th to 8th in scoring... and dead last in time of possession, something doesn't add up...
Then, of course, for his offense based around speed, he systematically got rid of the fastest players on our team: DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin and LeSean McCoy... all driven off or traded by Kelly. Take the best players out of a speed-based offense, and it all goes to hell. I've never coached a day in my life and *I* could have told Kelly that. He was a bad coach with one trick that put the defense in bad spots constantly, and an even worse GM.
Not that this is a sore spot for Eagles fans or anything.... >.>
Darnold’s looking revived. Slovis might break the curse.
Rest in peace D Thomas :(
Urban should've watched this for #3 alone 🤣
As someone who grew up watching those early 2000s Bengals teams, I definitely think Carson was an elite talent, especially with prime Ocho & Houshmandzadeh to toss to. His later Renaissance in Arizona proved that.
What held him back really was just the long list of injuries, sadly. Healthy Carson was amazing--that 06 Bengals squad was Superbowl caliber--but he was off the field too often.
Spurrier had two main problems: 1) he was lazy 2) at Florida he had great athletes because he could pretty much get whomever he wanted (like Nick Saban and Dabo Sweeney now), but in the NFL everybody has great athletes. It takes coaching and game planning by coaching staffs to utilize those athletes properly. And Spurrier thought since he was ‘The ‘Ole Ball Coach’ he didn’t have to make the effort championship coaches did.
Spurrier's offense wasn't new, similar schemes were run successfully before, most notably by Don Coryell. You are right that he didn't have to work hard to beat most of the one dimensional coaches in college he faced. When he got to the NFL, with coaches who could analyze everything he did, he was like a beginning chess player against a Grandmaster.
Lou Holtz has admitted that his experiences as a College Coach left him unprepared to be a NFL head coach and said that it was one of his mistakes to take the Jets HC job. However he did also say the experience was worthwhile as a learning experience and taught him that he was, personality wise, better suited being a College Coach.
Reminds me of a joke I made up: What do the NHL, NBA, MLB, and NFL all have in common? ... None of them have any use for an option quarterback.
My favorite part about your channel is that you cover all sports. Although I do wish you covered hockey more
I do too, but the hockey audience is pretty small on RUclips. I will mix it in though.
@@FivePointsVids unfortunately that is true
Tim Tebow aka Muno on “Yo Gabba Gabba”!!! I mean that AFFECTIONATELY!!! 😊😊😊
I would full blitz kneel down plays everytime. Good call, coach.
When I was in university I pretty much lived on McDonald’s and ramen for 4 years.
Urban Meyer is definitely taking notes, already cut out #4.
Surprised Lou Holtz didn't make it in here. He tried to run the Veer at the NFL level.
The funny thing about the Bucs going zero blitz against the Giants in victory formation is that Madden won't even let you do that. If your opponent is in victory formation, even if you call engage eight in a 4-4 or 5-2 set, your players won't go hard. They'll take a step forward and then stop
"Tim Tebow's latest Cosplay as an NFL tight end" lolololooolol
Not even a dishonorable mention of Bobby Petrino?!?
That blitz on the kneeldown was crazy. I forgot Coughlin was giving him a talking to at the game-end handshake until I saw your clip. You usually don't see that between coaches.
😂 I wish you would've said Nick Saban
Chip Kelly himself didn’t work, but his offense is the new normal. People used to watch those 2010s Oregon teams and their jaws would hit the floor cause they would see hurry up shotgun three wide read options. The spread is everywhere now.
Well, I guess you gotta update this. Meyer sends his regards
If you really want to "fight to win," maybe you should do enough in the first 59 minutes of the game that you don't have to see the opposing team kneel on you.
You forgot one college thing that didn't work in the NFL: Lou Holtz
0:22 lmao I have to watch a Tebow low lights reel its hilarious
3:55 Me, a Steelers fan: pls no
"Yeah I'm Saving Up to Go Back To College"
Chip Kelly 2017
rip demaryius thomas btw
Ohio State easily provides the most qb busts in the NFL. Especially recently.
"This video brought to you by Manscaped. Now let's talk about the Ol' Ball Coach."
USC QBs: Rich kid curse.
You should've throw OHIO STATE qbs in there as well .... here is the list of QBs that came out of Ohio St to the NFL since 1982:
Art Schlichter, Mike Tomczak, Tom Tupa, Kent Graham, Bobby Hoying, Joe Germaine, Craig Krenzel, Troy Smith, Terrell Pryor, Cardale Jones and Dwayne Haskins
Justin Fields has a shot to turn this around but.....he was a transfer so, would that really count??
A bit morbid to think about, and we’ll probably never know: if Dwayne Haskins hadn’t died, would the Steelers have drafted Kenny Pickett? They’d already anointed Trubisky as the starter, and also had Mason Rudolph. Granted none of them had Kenny’s level of success (if you can call it that), but I wonder how their decision making might have been altered by that event.
Best guy to come out of USC since OJ was Troy Polamalu. Carson Palmer had a very good career but just got stuck in a shot city. And him and Troy were roommates at USC too
I was expecting #1 - The Triple Option, because they tried it, it didn't work, and I'm old enough to remember that. Then it's #1 - USC Quarterbacks. Mic Drop. FivePoints Vids for the win.
I don’t even really like football or follow the NFL but this channel is so entertaining
As a Raiders fan, I’ll admit, it was much more a reflection with Oakland than it was Palmer. We sucked and our players gave up.
I don’t care that Tim Tebow sucks at football, because when he dies he’s going to save me from original sin. Let’s go, God!
Sagan ain't even touching that area again lmao!!!!!
I remember the replacement refs going on Inside the NFL and saying Schiano was not professional... and those guys were AWFUL!
If Tebow could have fixed his throwing motion, got proper grooming under a good QB, a good coaching staff, and adapted to the NFL'S style, he might have had a chance. His playing style is more common in today's NFL. He was just unfortunately, ahead of the schedule. Not saying he would have been elite but definitely could have been a potential starter with proper training.
You can't teach a brick to read defenses.
@@lougiacobbi725 very true. That's why I said I believe he may have been starter material but never elite.
Nick Saban?
Daunte Culpeper
Love the music behind Tebow's segment. Maybe if he weren't so... sanctimonious ...
Love the angelic music for Tebow 😋
Schiano knocking Eli on his butt was the best thing he ever did.
LMFAO Kedon Slovis looks like a rich kid. My god, he DOES look like one XD
Honorable mention. Lou Holtz at the Jets
As a Bruin, seeing Chip made me say, "Yup....that's Chip...." Then I see the Trojans at the only thing I want to see them at for #1. Day saved!
Tebow's "cosplay as a tight end," lol, you are cold as ice!🤣👍
If you really want a laugh, go search Bill Peterson - great coach at Florida State, terrible coach for the Houston Oilers, and master of confusing, uninspiring speeches that make no sense
Favorite quote of his:
“You guys pair up in groups of three, then line up in a circle” 😂😂
Soon we can add to this Matt Rhule.
Number 1 had me dying laughing.
How do you mention USC qbs in the NFL without not using the opportunity to bring up butt fumble?! I don't care what anybody says... That sh will never get old.
Watching this while another USC QB is about to go no 1 in the draft
This was a Gators-centric episode. I thought you were going to mention Myer from the thumbnail. Let's also not forget Nick Sabin tried the NFL.
He left because the Dolphins head Doctor failed DREW BREES AND HAD HIM CUT
Surprised at the lack of "Bobby Petrino. Moving on"
95% of the players on those 2 Schiano's teams didn't play in the NFL after they left Tampa Bay... they didn't have any talent.
Kliff Kingsbury is about to be next if he can’t get the Arizona Cardinals in the playoffs this 2021-2022 season.
Bengals in play offs so the heck with Palmer. And as life long Buckeye fan, and we have a long stories history of QBs not working in the NFL we can compete against USC
I remember some hack sports writer was touting Tebow's touchdown to pass ratio and claiming he would be a great NFL QB. Hack writer.
Sciano never should have left Rutgers, that program was a good fit for him
Tebow wasn't a horrible QB. He didn't gave great mechanics, but he found a way to win.
No. He was horrible.
As someone who has followed USC for decades now, even though it’s just a theory, I really can’t argue with the “rich kid” thing 🤣.
I can remember when Spurrier tried the no pass blocking approach as coach of the Redskins ....... turned out DL / LB were fine with killing his unprotected QB ... the QB not so happy.
Chip Kelly's hurry up offense vs Pete Caroll's defense who (Caroll) has already saw this one trick gimmick in the Pac-10. Result, the Seahawk's beat the Eagles again in Prime Time on their own field holding them to just 139 yards of offense and winning 24-14 on Dec 7, 2014.
10:40 Yeah, Palmer was missing something alright: his natural ACL, PCL and MCL in his left knee thanks to the cheap shot by Kimo von Whorehousen.
Matt Cassel, I feel, doesn't really deserve to be called a bust. In 2008 he led the Patriots to an 11-5 record when Tom Brady was injured, only missing the playoffs because of the Miami Dolphins catching everyone off guard with the Wildcat offense, and was a Pro Bowler in 2010 with Kansas City. It seems to me he was decent, but not great.
Tebow never gets to shock the Steelers if dimwit Marion Barber III doesn't run the hell out of bounds for the Bears. I try not to remember this but it's hard to forget. Thanks, Bears. Thanks.
Chip Kelly was out of the NFL faster than hurry-up offense
His NFL career was two and out like a CFL hurry up offense