@@Afflictious manual is cool, just not when your commute is 2+ hours and your max speed is usually around 10mph But I got my MK1 to drive around on the weekends for a manual lol
You can go without DSG-Farts, but it is something the customer of "sporty" cars want. It is an additional function of the engine ECU, just like the farts you hear when you lift your foot off the throttle. Here, a more or less random pattern is used to inject some gas which is not ignited by the spark plugs. So not mandatory, just for the sounds.
So what you say is we can have the same effect by cutting fuel and not only the spark right? And the car wouldn't burn unnecessary fuel (and of course no farting noises)
It is and it is not... The thing is, all DSG cars, or cars with double clutched automatic gearboxes, can produce those farts. Mostly those farts are absorbed by the resonator. Once you delete the resonator, the farts are audible. You would be able to code it away, but then you'd increase fuel-consumption and stress on the engine and transmission.
I didn’t know these were called farts 😂 The first time I shifted under heavy throttle in my S4 and heard the farts, I nearly experienced a different kind of emission 😍🥴
In my GTI Clubsport it definetly sound like Bangs or whatnot. And especially in Tunnels or between walls the reasonance can be almost defening if you open sunroof etc.. 😄 😎
just bought a Golf 7.5 GTI upgrade from a polo 6r GTI, and the DSG farts on stock are soooooo sick dude !!! love the farts! farting all the way to the petrol station
@@Codename.996 just check my instagram @papamabotja you'll see I've added a couple IG stories of the car under "Lynk" I have a video there from outside doing a small pull you'll hear the dsg far on that video and you'll see photos of my car ... you'll confirm if it's the correct version or not. However I'm in south africa so we dont have any laws and regulations for loud exhausts. So maybe VW turned it down for your side of the planet.
killer_vette Did you read what he said?? He said he loves his car. Nobody really cares about your 1/100 of a second "faster"! If I take the doors, carpet and seats out of my car it will be faster to 60 mph. Ha!!! Who fucking cares??? It is a PASSENGER CAR!
Not a huge fan of the DSG sound, but it’s growing on me. Upshifting on a manual car with an exhaust sounds so much better with the snap, crackle, and pops
Nice explanation! One question: why doesn't this harm the catalytic converter? On carbureted cars from the 90's, running too rich could cause the catalytic convertor to get too hot (burning raw fuel), resulting in an expensive repair (new cat, to replace the burned out one). Why doesn't DSG cause this problem? Is is because the # of shifts (and therefore # of DSG farts) is so low, when compared to rich running cars which let raw gas into the cat on every cycle?
@@EstebanRapido Well, metaphorically speaking, that is :-) Diesels don't have spark plugs, so whatever happens resembles that same sound, and the origin might be even mechanically related (or DSG-related) insofar as something quickly disconnects to connect again right after. I don't push my TDi either, there is no point as the useful area of rpm's does not call for it.
@@antoniovda1295 basically it's the same principle but as the piston comes up as explained the extra fuel and air mixture will ignite as it's still being compressed not as high as the combustion stroke but it will still ignite with high temps and the slight compression
@@cameronjamieson2651 just the regular COBB tune. Yeah, I have to hold the revs out before shifting and it will do it but its definitely not as loud as pre-tune.
Is there a benefit to the ignition cut as opposed to using the clutches to slow down the engine? Is the second method how DSG's work on TDI models (since there's no spark to cut?)
Hey Paul, funny enough, my mk7 golf 1.8T makes shifts farts too above 3K RPM even though it is not a DSG :) I had to install a GTI exhaust to be able to hear them
This is true. I have the same car. 2017 Golf TSI 1.8T. Non dsg. And it pops just like DSG. I think you only need a gen3 TSI engine. I have downpipe, resonater and muffler deleted. And it pops so loud lol
so if it can upshift without farting as evident from the launch control videos, then why does it not use this method all the time? Perhaps due to more wear and tear?
My stage 2 GTI's farts would wake the neighbors. I loaned my Dad my car once, and he called me up saying something is wrong with the car. After I explained to him what was happening, he loved it. He borrowed it many times after that.
Very well explained and even very reasonable thing gases explod in exaust pipe , and the sound is louder than in cylinders because inside last ones EXs are isolated by valves, danke bitte
I sold my mk7.5 golf r and bought a new 5f cupra 290 and it’s fitted with the dreaded gpf , the R is obviously considerably faster from launch with the dsg7 and had the dsg bang but the cupra pretty easily gap’s the R everywhere else from 2nd gear,! But the cupra dsg7 has what id describe as a thud and not a bang on upshifts, I’ve got to say it does detract from the experience, although as the miles go on and ive nearly 3000 now the gpf equipped cupra is getting louder and starting to burble and bang on the over run but nothing like the 300 did. As the saying goes you don’t know what you’re missing till it’s got and that’s definitely my view. Good explanation thanks.👍
Shifts are so fast; the engine has to cut spark between them... DSGs are better for fuel economy; throws raw fuel into the exhaust. Things aren't adding up here.
I think the amount of fuel they throw out to the exhaust would be substantially lower than the amount of fuel you waste while holding in the clutch pedal in a regular manual
This is what you can program in any decent standalone ECU as 'flatshift' with spark-cut. Ofc using it with a conventional manual gearbox, the shifing period is way longer and it sounds more like pop and bang instead of short transient 'farts'.
It's supposed to make your manual shifts much faster, my buddy got way better times in his 2016 manual Golf R with a NLS tune. Sounded glorious too, 2 to 3 LOUD gunshots instead of farts
It always makes me chuckle when I see an Audi go by making DSG farts, it's like behind the wheel is a silly little boy pretending he's on a race track, but in reality he's nipping down to Tescos to get some milk. He was the sort of boy that wouldn't play football that well, and would make engine noises in the playground at lunch time...you know the type..the lad in your road that would have playing cards strapped to their Batman Themed BMX... oh wait..that's me..🤣
It's probably largely burning and catalysing in the catalysts, but short answer, no it's not good for emissions. It's also probably not good for the turbos lol. But like the other commenter said, "It's a VW. In due time" xD
@@NickDittes the catalyst is fine. It's designed to take care of unburned fuel. And it isn't necessarily bad for the turbos either, because the primary effect is simply that they stay spooled when the next gear engages, which means more power.
At first I thought it sounded to artificial, like trying to imitatie a carb car from the 60's/70's. Or screwing a sparkplug in the exhaust pipe. But now I know the reason and its pure technical and not a fake attention getter. I dig it :)
Yes thats correct every brand have a different name for it some say dsg. Germand Edc. Frensh Tiptronic. German Dct. Korean Japanse brands also hyundai and kia But its al the same lol
1. There is no "ignition cuts" of course, there is a just very late timing during the shifts, like -10 BTDC. So-you have only a very very small amount of unburnt fuel in your exhaust. If you put ALL of your unburned fuel during the upshifts outside, you will destroy your exhaust manifold and turbo and catalytic converter in no time. This DSG "fart" is basically because of the engine running on the very late timing. You can clearly see this on the VCDS log, this is not a rocket since. 2. DSG using this timing reduction not for the "flare prevention", but for the reduction of the torque during shifting, for preventing excessive clutch slipping, overheating and preventing the kicks. 3. During the ANY shift, there is the time frame, when both clutches are engaged, but with different pressure applied to the pistons. During the launch control, your DSG using the S mode shifting times map, which is way shorter than the D shifting time map, and less torque reduction, this why you can not hear the DSG fart. You can clearly see it in the DSG flash dump. 4. You can completely disable this torque reduction in DSG flash, you will have some kicks during shifting, even your wheels can chirp during the shifts. But you will have faster times.
@@nocll34 on the channel engineering explained, Jason had an official answer from Hyundai: the fart have for purpose to keep the turbo spooling during shifts and minimize turbo lag. Personality, I can understand the reasoning behind this if those farts were limited to a "sports mode" and only happen during high load, launch control, etc. But actually, it seems that modern cars tend to fart all the time, at any load, any mode and even in traffic, which is imo just unnecessary and somewhat pathetic. It ruins fuel economy, is very irritating if you live in a neighborhood infested with cars like these and almost none of those drivers will ever make their way to a circuit where that gadget probably makes sense. But hey, some (dumb?) consumers like it, so auto makers will ofc deliver👌
I came here to say the same thing. 2010 Audi A4 with 6HP ZF trans and unitronic stage 2 with test pipe farts every day! I will go with unburnt gas for the answer I suppose...
@@ash8889 I have a Sportwagen 4motion with a muffler delete. Identical power train. Confirmed - Little to no DSG farts. I have an Is20, APR TCU and ECU and a stock downpipe... but dayum, DPs are expensive (that's what she said). I've found a youtube clip with downpipe and Techtonics exhaust and it was better, but still not as gaseous as I hoped :\
I test drove a used S3 and was hearing this... thought something was wrong. Glad it's normal! I'm considering getting the car because holy crap it's nice...and I've been missing the feel of a turbo AWD vehicle since letting go of my old STi.
Manual is the best by far. Maybe not for the traffic light grand prix, but there is far more involvement and fun driving a manual that far outweighs any benefit of shaving a few milliseconds off an gear change. Maybe if people spent their entire lives at a drag strip and every fraction of a second counts.. but in the real world there is much more to a drivers car than getting super fast shift times.
Merc make exactly the same noise🤔? Go listen to an A45 AMG with a big exhaust system. Merc still run a lot of auto transmissions in their cars though so maybe that is what you are comparing to?
pk3012 i am talking with stock exhaust not 3rd party one look c43 amg,c63 amg,s63 amg all of them doesnt have fart noise okay maybe a bit but not like all others and upshifts are more pleasing than golfs,...
Its unburnt fuel being dumped into the exhaust intentionally to make the noise. It’s part of the ECU calibration. Non sporty DSG equipped VAG cars don’t make the noise. It’s theatre to make the sporty cars stand out.
“So in conclusion dsg farts are hot gases coming out of your tail pipe”
Paul 2019
Best quote ever
Nice
Daily Driven Tech he actually said, “exploding”
😂😂🤣🤣
Daily Driven Tech “So to conclude, DSG farts are hot gas exploding from your tail pipe”
I tried telling my hot date that the noises between gear changes are the dsg farts... she said, but it’s manual and they smell...
That's a keeper.
🤣
Avoid giving him the full beans next time
She knew the difference between dsg and true manual? Keep her
LMFAO! I’m fucking dying 😂 😂 😂
Does the fact that unburned fuel is present make it a wet fart?
Shart
Bruh
Underrated comment, my guy! 🤣😂
NO, as it burns in the exhaust.
So unchecked combustion hmm how did that pass emissions and also surely that would reap havoc on the catalytic converter
Bro this guy is the best car explainer on youtube hands down. You should have 2 millions subscribers
I literally got a DSG just so I can fart around town 😂😂
Me too!! And super fast shifts!!
@@robertweiser7122 yup! It's awesome having the dsg and I commute to and from LA and it made driving in traffic so much better.
sounds so bad rather have my no lift shift around town :)
@@Afflictious manual is cool, just not when your commute is 2+ hours and your max speed is usually around 10mph
But I got my MK1 to drive around on the weekends for a manual lol
Literally? Not actually?
i have actually been curious why they make that sound and how duel clutch transmissions work, thanks for the very educational video.
You can go without DSG-Farts, but it is something the customer of "sporty" cars want. It is an additional function of the engine ECU, just like the farts you hear when you lift your foot off the throttle. Here, a more or less random pattern is used to inject some gas which is not ignited by the spark plugs. So not mandatory, just for the sounds.
So what you say is we can have the same effect by cutting fuel and not only the spark right? And the car wouldn't burn unnecessary fuel (and of course no farting noises)
It is and it is not... The thing is, all DSG cars, or cars with double clutched automatic gearboxes, can produce those farts. Mostly those farts are absorbed by the resonator. Once you delete the resonator, the farts are audible. You would be able to code it away, but then you'd increase fuel-consumption and stress on the engine and transmission.
I've owned a MkV GTI for 7 or 8 years and I still love the sound it makes
How do you get a mk7 with DSG farts? I tried to buy a few but they are all quietly and no farts :(
Do you know why?
@@soulmateseverywhere6309 put it in sport mode and use the flappy paddles and give it a good rev between changing gears
I didn’t know these were called farts 😂
The first time I shifted under heavy throttle in my S4 and heard the farts, I nearly experienced a different kind of emission 😍🥴
Lemme stop you right there
In my GTI Clubsport it definetly sound like Bangs or whatnot. And especially in Tunnels or between walls the reasonance can be almost defening if you open sunroof etc.. 😄 😎
3DFX mine is catless dp and muffler delete some of my dsg farts are like a gunshot
it sounds soooo crap imo. How can you like it..
@@jortepap sounds crap to ppl who get dusted by it bro
Oh and with DSG farts, check for skid marks.
I always wonder why childish humor like this ends up being the top comment on videos like this ?
One might say that the absence of skid marks may indicate the absence of driving enjoyment 😎
@@birdvalenchez So he didn't mean the drivers of a DSG then?
It was just banter yeah?
The perfect video to watch while on the toilet
Esteban Rápido me
Same
Just got back from work did the same thing 🤣🤣🤣 cracked me up
Im on the toilet right now lmao
Me rn lol
just bought a Golf 7.5 GTI upgrade from a polo 6r GTI, and the DSG farts on stock are soooooo sick dude !!! love the farts! farting all the way to the petrol station
Papa Mabotja I thought the 7.5 GTI has no DSG farts anymore? But the overall sound is louder and better i heard. I ordered one too.
@@Codename.996 bro! 7.5 GTI farts are so loud on stock especially shifting from gear 1 to 2 at 4k-5k rpms woohoo its awesome you'll love your 7.5 dude
Papa Mabotja Haha okay, i hope they sound as good as you are telling me. You sure you got the 7.5 with OPF an DSG7 ?
@@Codename.996 just check my instagram @papamabotja you'll see I've added a couple IG stories of the car under "Lynk" I have a video there from outside doing a small pull you'll hear the dsg far on that video and you'll see photos of my car ... you'll confirm if it's the correct version or not.
However I'm in south africa so we dont have any laws and regulations for loud exhausts. So maybe VW turned it down for your side of the planet.
Farting all the way to the petrol station 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
I've been looking for the cause of DSG farts for almost a year now. The most useful engineering video I've watched so far in 2020. Thanks👏
I just dsg farted in my bathroom, wanna explain that one
Too many visits to the Indian takeaway probably! 😖💨
ha ha .fuckin hilarious .. :S
Your full of poop, just joke.
@@llegacy1870 are u calling it a damn joke?? 🤦🏻♂️ Go to shrink dude
unburned natural gas coming out your exhaust
Thank God my GTI is manual. I don’t think my wife could stand anymore of my gaseous emissions. 😀
:)
Just make sure theyr as "LIT" as on my GTI Clubsport. Never heard anyone complain.. Esp not in Tunnels with the Sunroof Down hehe... 😉 😎
Irfaan Faki Hey man I love my manual GTI.
carnutal DSG is faster
killer_vette Did you read what he said?? He said he loves his car. Nobody really cares about your 1/100 of a second "faster"! If I take the doors, carpet and seats out of my car it will be faster to 60 mph. Ha!!! Who fucking cares??? It is a PASSENGER CAR!
Great vid covering a wide array of topics to answer what seems like a simple question 👍🏾
Not a huge fan of the DSG sound, but it’s growing on me. Upshifting on a manual car with an exhaust sounds so much better with the snap, crackle, and pops
Nice explanation! One question: why doesn't this harm the catalytic converter? On carbureted cars from the 90's, running too rich could cause the catalytic convertor to get too hot (burning raw fuel), resulting in an expensive repair (new cat, to replace the burned out one). Why doesn't DSG cause this problem? Is is because the # of shifts (and therefore # of DSG farts) is so low, when compared to rich running cars which let raw gas into the cat on every cycle?
It's tiny so it only degrades them instead of destroying them like anti lag
In South Africa the street lingo for the Golf GTi DSG cars is Vrrrrrr-pa.
Awè, local is lekker!
@@vuyolwethungololo5270 baie lekker
South Africa has many, many silly names for ordinary things... 🥴🤔
Vrrrr-pa!!!
thats our spirit
That final clip and your opinion made me feel compelled to subscribe
So then is this phenomenon on female driven dsg cars still farts or can they opt for queefs ?
Queefart
Wrong hole, you've probably been doing something else wrong as well....
blow off valve?
@@ster9765 That's good, well played !
QUEEEEEEEEEE-FAAAARRRT
The manual explanation involved deselecting a gear and then selecting the next gear but in truth it is a single motion.
Interesting video thanks
My manual S1 makes similar farts on up shifts if I get close to redline.
Connor Robinson my manual A3 started doing it once i raised my rev limiter to 7000
I see a GTi golf Manuel that does
I have a DSG VW - the best auto transmission there is - I have driven many auto cars - DSG is incredibly smooth. Cannot go without DSG now.
Conclusion: ignition cut. Something thats been present in the performance world for years with sequential gearboxes and flat foot shifting
Pretty cool that they managed to get it into automatic and paddle shift transmissions
KEEP IT UP GUYS, VERY INTERESTING STUFF!! especially as the pilot of a MANUAL golf r
So glad you guys explained this!
Actually very clear. Thanks!
"What are pops and bangs?"
"engine misfire, but deliberate"
Sounds from heaven. My ‘18 Golf R needs a tune and exhaust.
And a stick shift!! 😂😂😂
Nice! Coming from background with Ford motors to this - very cool info. Need more VW in my life
i actually just clicked this vid cause i knew there'd be dsg farts and i wanted to hear it... that's all really..
Even my TDi does it. Thanks for the explanation, I didn't know how it happened, but I did know it was totally normal for my vehicle.
Whoa! It cuts spark in your TDI? j/k Really, I was wondering the same time about my TDi. I'm rarely on it hard enough to notice such things.
@@EstebanRapido Well, metaphorically speaking, that is :-) Diesels don't have spark plugs, so whatever happens resembles that same sound, and the origin might be even mechanically related (or DSG-related) insofar as something quickly disconnects to connect again right after. I don't push my TDi either, there is no point as the useful area of rpm's does not call for it.
@@antoniovda1295 basically it's the same principle but as the piston comes up as explained the extra fuel and air mixture will ignite as it's still being compressed not as high as the combustion stroke but it will still ignite with high temps and the slight compression
The DSG farts in my s3 with decat is naughty 😍
Don't get a DSG tune. It took mine away :(
@@911airsoftdude no way! Who was it tuned by. Its soon to be stage 2 mine with the TCU tune so im hoping it doesnt 😕
@@cameronjamieson2651 just the regular COBB tune. Yeah, I have to hold the revs out before shifting and it will do it but its definitely not as loud as pre-tune.
@@911airsoftdude try to use manual. i had a dsg tune it doesnt fart when transmission is in sport but in manual it farts like pre-tune
My X1 18i has the DCT box and that fart sound is just godly IMO. The good engine noise+that fart.
Is there a benefit to the ignition cut as opposed to using the clutches to slow down the engine? Is the second method how DSG's work on TDI models (since there's no spark to cut?)
Good explanation video 💪🏻
I love the DSG Farts on my 2017 Golf MK7 GTI 😍
When I have my new exhaust setup it will be great 😍
I hear this at night sometimes I always know what it its straight away :)
Yes. It's the sound of somebody who bought a car on finance. 😹
I had this question for so long. Thank you for this.
Hey Paul, funny enough, my mk7 golf 1.8T makes shifts farts too above 3K RPM even though it is not a DSG :) I had to install a GTI exhaust to be able to hear them
Did you do the Downpipe as well or just the Exhaust? I'm thinking of doing the Exhaust on mine for the same effect.
@@MatDupuis3 I have a resonator delete as well, so I still have the stock gti rear muffler
This is true. I have the same car. 2017 Golf TSI 1.8T. Non dsg. And it pops just like DSG. I think you only need a gen3 TSI engine. I have downpipe, resonater and muffler deleted. And it pops so loud lol
Most people don’t understand just how quick the new dsg gearbox is, first to second feels almost instant with no lag between power delivery
4:50 that clip is the painful reality of thinking you have a fast car lol
lol
Its just a form of antilag to simplify it. If you looked at the fuel maps you can see that. That way it keeps the RPM in the range. Nice video dude
so if it can upshift without farting as evident from the launch control videos, then why does it not use this method all the time? Perhaps due to more wear and tear?
I love the way my MK6 GTI Wolfsburg Edition cracks on upshifts!! It has an AWE Tuning catback exhaust on it too which makes it even louder!!
I’m guessing this is the same as the HEMI Fart. My ram does it from time to time. Honestly, I love it.
My Aztek does it when I let off the throttle XD
Our 2017 Macan 2.0 makes this sound too. We love it. The PDK transmission is the reason.
As much as I love my 6MT, I've had DSG envy for a while and next after my GTI will likely be a DSG R.
Yeah... no, thanks.
dash3dot It’s not for you. You don’t have to drive it so don’t worry about it.
@@FinalFormation Captain Obvious much?
dash3dot Apparently wasn’t obvious enough because you felt the need to comment lol
@@FinalFormation and you still don't get it, do you? Is it because of the mustache?
Thanks for the Explosion - Imeant Explanation! Your the Bomb!! 😄 Now the passangers of my GTI Clubsport wont have to wonder anymore.. 👍
just bought a 2013 S4 and one of the things I was most looking forward to are the farts. sometimes it has louder farts than others, but it's okay.
Elycius depend of the food
@@kninio 😂😂
My stage 2 GTI's farts would wake the neighbors. I loaned my Dad my car once, and he called me up saying something is wrong with the car.
After I explained to him what was happening, he loved it. He borrowed it many times after that.
3:28 Humble Mechanic, salute!
Very well explained and even very reasonable thing gases explod in exaust pipe , and the sound is louder than in cylinders because inside last ones EXs are isolated by valves, danke bitte
I thought dsg sounded good before. Now after watching this video, all I hear is farts!
You have ruined this for me! 😂 Haha
I sold my mk7.5 golf r and bought a new 5f cupra 290 and it’s fitted with the dreaded gpf , the R is obviously considerably faster from launch with the dsg7 and had the dsg bang but the cupra pretty easily gap’s the R everywhere else from 2nd gear,! But the cupra dsg7 has what id describe as a thud and not a bang on upshifts, I’ve got to say it does detract from the experience, although as the miles go on and ive nearly 3000 now the gpf equipped cupra is getting louder and starting to burble and bang on the over run but nothing like the 300 did. As the saying goes you don’t know what you’re missing till it’s got and that’s definitely my view. Good explanation thanks.👍
Shifts are so fast; the engine has to cut spark between them... DSGs are better for fuel economy; throws raw fuel into the exhaust.
Things aren't adding up here.
I think the amount of fuel they throw out to the exhaust would be substantially lower than the amount of fuel you waste while holding in the clutch pedal in a regular manual
I always wondered why my MK7 gti didn't do this under launch control, nice video
I'm pretty sure at 2:14 that's me on the left standing on the light post column.
This was the explanation I was looking for.
Also, 1000th comment. Way cooler than first. 😂
In South Africa we call it "Vrrrpaaaa" lol. "Farts" sounds weird.
TJ Tshaba vrrpa is way better than farts bru😂
In proper English terminology,
"Farts" is the best way to term it for universal understanding.
Kodwa ke emajiteni iVrr Pha😂😂
just like a real fart. probably sounds disgusting to others, but satisfying as hell when you're the one farting.
4:27 it’s the only thing that I understood from the video....
Riding my GTI Clubsport will make you a revelation belive me... 😎 👍
I thought DSG was only found is GTI and then Steptronic on RS/S cars. And now I'm confused.
This is what you can program in any decent standalone ECU as 'flatshift' with spark-cut. Ofc using it with a conventional manual gearbox, the shifing period is way longer and it sounds more like pop and bang instead of short transient 'farts'.
It's supposed to make your manual shifts much faster, my buddy got way better times in his 2016 manual Golf R with a NLS tune. Sounded glorious too, 2 to 3 LOUD gunshots instead of farts
My manual mustang sometimes does this between shifts.
It always makes me chuckle when I see an Audi go by making DSG farts, it's like behind the wheel is a silly little boy pretending he's on a race track, but in reality he's nipping down to Tescos to get some milk. He was the sort of boy that wouldn't play football that well, and would make engine noises in the playground at lunch time...you know the type..the lad in your road that would have playing cards strapped to their Batman Themed BMX... oh wait..that's me..🤣
Great video, i love the farts lol
Who tf drives an GTi/R at Stock tho
Thanks for the explanation Paul.
Is it coincidence this video came out the day after Engineering Explained's video on turbo farts?
Very much so. Jason and I have never talked but if we did I would coordinate outfits before videos 😜
This can’t be good for turbos. Also, wouldn’t that be an emissions issue? How do they get away with that part?
It's a Volkswagen. In due time.
It's probably largely burning and catalysing in the catalysts, but short answer, no it's not good for emissions. It's also probably not good for the turbos lol. But like the other commenter said, "It's a VW. In due time" xD
VW and making emissions? You can only have one
@@NickDittes the catalyst is fine. It's designed to take care of unburned fuel. And it isn't necessarily bad for the turbos either, because the primary effect is simply that they stay spooled when the next gear engages, which means more power.
At first I thought it sounded to artificial, like trying to imitatie a carb car from the 60's/70's. Or screwing a sparkplug in the exhaust pipe. But now I know the reason and its pure technical and not a fake attention getter. I dig it :)
I love DSG farts, but unfortunately they're no longer heard in more recent models fitted with an OPF - it's more like a "pop" now...
What’s OPF..?
Practical filter in the exhaust system.
Which ones have the OPF? The 7.5 GTI?
@@cmarnold78 from around August 2018 from what I've read.
@@cmarnold78 From the 7.5 onward they do. That's why they sound more muted.
This one had me actually laughing! Great video!!!!
My kia pro ceed gt have this sound when shifting, its a DCT transmission in it
Yes thats correct every brand have a different name for it some say dsg. Germand Edc. Frensh Tiptronic. German Dct. Korean Japanse brands also hyundai and kia But its al the same lol
Excellent video, now I understand why this things fart like gods
I just drive around and fart on my own.
1. There is no "ignition cuts" of course, there is a just very late timing during the shifts, like -10 BTDC. So-you have only a very very small amount of unburnt fuel in your exhaust. If you put ALL of your unburned fuel during the upshifts outside, you will destroy your exhaust manifold and turbo and catalytic converter in no time. This DSG "fart" is basically because of the engine running on the very late timing. You can clearly see this on the VCDS log, this is not a rocket since. 2. DSG using this timing reduction not for the "flare prevention", but for the reduction of the torque during shifting, for preventing excessive clutch slipping, overheating and preventing the kicks. 3. During the ANY shift, there is the time frame, when both clutches are engaged, but with different pressure applied to the pistons. During the launch control, your DSG using the S mode shifting times map, which is way shorter than the D shifting time map, and less torque reduction, this why you can not hear the DSG fart. You can clearly see it in the DSG flash dump. 4. You can completely disable this torque reduction in DSG flash, you will have some kicks during shifting, even your wheels can chirp during the shifts. But you will have faster times.
Thank you! The guy in the video has no idea what he's talking about. "Ignition cut between shifts" LMAO!
@@jasonb340 Yeah, funny-one hard acceleration and you have no exhaust manifold and no catalytic converter)))
4:37 Slowest launch ever lol!
Fwd :(
I’m so much more keen that I get finance on my dsg golf after watching these videos, best sound I’ve heard in many years.
Why don’t they cut the fuel Injektion with the spark between shifts to safe fuel and not fart?
Running an engine lean is way worse than having too much fuel, never mind letting the exhaust/turbo have it.
@@nocll34 Without spark, there is no combustion. Without combustion, there is no heat. Am I right?
@@Sk1ds87 My bad, I didn't even read it properly but there probably is still a reason auto manufacturers don't do that
@@nocll34 on the channel engineering explained, Jason had an official answer from Hyundai: the fart have for purpose to keep the turbo spooling during shifts and minimize turbo lag. Personality, I can understand the reasoning behind this if those farts were limited to a "sports mode" and only happen during high load, launch control, etc. But actually, it seems that modern cars tend to fart all the time, at any load, any mode and even in traffic, which is imo just unnecessary and somewhat pathetic. It ruins fuel economy, is very irritating if you live in a neighborhood infested with cars like these and almost none of those drivers will ever make their way to a circuit where that gadget probably makes sense. But hey, some (dumb?) consumers like it, so auto makers will ofc deliver👌
thank you a lot for that great dsg video
greetings
DevoLine
Great video I love to fart 💨
I have a 2012 Passat 3.6 with a 6 gear dsg and I gotta say damn the dsg farts mixed with the incredible sound of the 3.6 is amazing sounding to me
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Great expansion Paul
Main reason to buy a DSG!!
Never heard it in my car but hearing it makes me giggle😂 I love it
My Audi 8 speed ZF farts when it shifts gears under hard acceleration
I came here to say the same thing. 2010 Audi A4 with 6HP ZF trans and unitronic stage 2 with test pipe farts every day! I will go with unburnt gas for the answer I suppose...
I have a 19 S4 with a ZF box that makes “ZF farts” all the time. Why is that???
@@rideswithseb expelled gas onto hot exhaust... Ya heard the man!!
i like that sound so much,and the quick speed.
Need to do a muffler delete on my alltrack. Miss the dsg sound in my GTI
I don't think that will help. Prob need a downpipe and/or exhaust. I'm looking at the same thing on my Alltrack too!
@@ash8889 I have a Sportwagen 4motion with a muffler delete. Identical power train. Confirmed - Little to no DSG farts. I have an Is20, APR TCU and ECU and a stock downpipe... but dayum, DPs are expensive (that's what she said). I've found a youtube clip with downpipe and Techtonics exhaust and it was better, but still not as gaseous as I hoped :\
I have always hated the sound they make but now knowing why it happens it’s kinda cool. Mainly just bc it’s fast
i love farting . who doesnt love a good fart.
Yeah but i love the smell of these type of gases even more... 😄 👍
Unless it's wet.
I test drove a used S3 and was hearing this... thought something was wrong. Glad it's normal! I'm considering getting the car because holy crap it's nice...and I've been missing the feel of a turbo AWD vehicle since letting go of my old STi.
Do it
Only "Anti Lag" farts are cool ;-)
THIS ^
Seriously, why would anyone with hearing think that a fart was a nice sound for a car to make.
Anti lag is awesome though 👌
Holy crap I was always curious thank you
The solution proposed by VW is waste more fuel. So convenient
I love fuel wasting
Most beautiful of sound..Especially Golf Gti Golf7 2019
Ahemm... Audi S4 2015 sounds better but ye
Dsg Dsg Dsg that mechanical shift that makes a fart..
Very intresting. Cool stuff. I'll have to listen for it next time I come across a gti or an Audi. I wish my mk4 gli 05 automatic could be that cool.
I thought paul was going to fart 💨
Here’s my opinion 💨
Manual stands for pure driving pleasure...🕹️🕹️
Manual is the best by far. Maybe not for the traffic light grand prix, but there is far more involvement and fun driving a manual that far outweighs any benefit of shaving a few milliseconds off an gear change.
Maybe if people spent their entire lives at a drag strip and every fraction of a second counts.. but in the real world there is much more to a drivers car than getting super fast shift times.
but mercedes could do same but without farts at all go and listen
Merc make exactly the same noise🤔? Go listen to an A45 AMG with a big exhaust system. Merc still run a lot of auto transmissions in their cars though so maybe that is what you are comparing to?
pk3012 i am talking with stock exhaust not 3rd party one look c43 amg,c63 amg,s63 amg all of them doesnt have fart noise okay maybe a bit but not like all others and upshifts are more pleasing than golfs,...
Its unburnt fuel being dumped into the exhaust intentionally to make the noise. It’s part of the ECU calibration.
Non sporty DSG equipped VAG cars don’t make the noise.
It’s theatre to make the sporty cars stand out.
Stupid, right? I was wondering why the fuel injection is 't cut as well. I guess little boys like fart sounds.
I still prefer my non-farting V8 xD