Can you fix an Audi 7 Speed DSG Transmission?

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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
  • Repairing a DSG transmission vehicle can be difficult and expensive. This has most people wondering if the DSG transmission issues can be resolved cheaper or easier. In this video we explore the trials and tribulations we ran across while trying to fix a 7speed DSG transmission in an Audi S4 model.
    While this video talks a lot about the S4 specifically a lot of the same principles would apply to many VW and Audi models that also use a DSG transmission. This would include cars like the MK5, MK6 and MK7, GTI, Jetta, CC and more.
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  • @Deutscheautoparts
    @Deutscheautoparts  2 года назад +3

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  • @SonicTheR32
    @SonicTheR32 2 года назад +251

    I respect the fact that you are willing to say, "I don't know." Thanks for putting out genuine content that helps point us in the right direction rather than just trying to sell us expensive parts!

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu 2 года назад +2

      My English Grammar and Composition teacher always says 'I don't know'.
      That's why I never know anything on tests.

    • @endroo93
      @endroo93 2 года назад

      @@dragospahontu God.

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu 2 года назад

      @@endroo93 lol

    • @christian3134
      @christian3134 2 года назад +6

      “I don’t know” is a legitimate answer

    • @krashfinatik4396
      @krashfinatik4396 Год назад

      I don't even have an Audi or Volkswagen & I still watch your videos because of the knowledge that you put out. Thanks for the entertainment. 👍🏿

  • @michaelrodriguez8345
    @michaelrodriguez8345 2 года назад +59

    You have no idea how your tutorials have helped me out in the last year. They've helped me approach difficult repairs with way more confidence. Thanks guys.

  • @notmenotme614
    @notmenotme614 2 года назад +30

    17:05 Me watching the clutch pack fall apart and tossed to the side: “I hope you remember the order it goes back together ”

  • @SuburbanRedneck
    @SuburbanRedneck 2 года назад +26

    I did this in my driveway with jackstands in the middle of winter. Took 2 weeks. You guys make it look easy!

    • @Deutscheautoparts
      @Deutscheautoparts  2 года назад +14

      You are brave! Bravo to you.

    • @BobofastCos
      @BobofastCos Год назад

      Any tips for putting it back in, I’m on ramps and I’m not having good luck

  • @SuperCatic
    @SuperCatic 2 года назад +8

    For anyone who needs this… I have a b8 s4 and from complete stop to driving it would jolt really hard. 500$ harness and valves on the mech unit and it runs smooth now!

    • @mattttt-
      @mattttt- 2 года назад +1

      did you experience the jolt from 2nd to 1st? How much was labor on it and if you could link where you got the parts that would help, thanks!

    • @sincere3005
      @sincere3005 4 месяца назад

      You replaced all the valves ?

  • @cs_yt
    @cs_yt 2 года назад +38

    I did the circuit board replacement on my B8 S4 on my driveway. Here is a tip. If you ended up like me trying to push the mechatronics and it doesn't go in place, even with everything aligned by the book. Get six M6 long bolts(100mm long). Use them in place of the short bolts, they'll keep all aligned properly, push it in place(was a snap), then replace with the correct bolts. My S4 is working like a champ, don't know for how long. 😊

    • @michaelstrongbow2336
      @michaelstrongbow2336 2 года назад

      Is it still working?

    • @cs_yt
      @cs_yt 2 года назад +1

      @@michaelstrongbow2336 Yep, I have other cars, so I put about 5k miles, but works great. I added 034 Stage I, 034 tranny tune & intake which is enough for me. Also added Apple Car play. I still need to finish some cosmetic things, this was a Copart "special". Cheers!

    • @jessenepywoda3710
      @jessenepywoda3710 2 года назад

      very good tip.

    • @zahidc3145
      @zahidc3145 Год назад

      Did reverse work in your car? Mine just slips and gets transmission malfunction no reverse msg

    • @L1ttlepsych0
      @L1ttlepsych0 4 месяца назад +1

      Good job mate! Good luck with your DSG!

  • @DrewFixIt
    @DrewFixIt 9 месяцев назад +2

    I love the raw honesty that you portray, but the best comment had to be “it was better than replacing a heater core”! Cheers Drew

  • @christopherpardell4418
    @christopherpardell4418 2 года назад +17

    In 2007 I bought a 2005 TT with DSG. The DSG was a new thing then, it was only the second year of production. and everyone worried about how costly it would be to repair. About a year in, my TT started shifting really badly…and I thought to myself “oh hell, this is gonna hurt”. I took it into a dealer and they called me the next day to say it was fixed. Turns out the DSG was fine. They replaced a Brake light switch for $45 bucks and it ran perfectly. Apparently, a signal from the brake light harness is important info the car uses to decide which gear to preselect? Anyhow… I still have that car at 130k. The 6 speed DSG still runs perfect.

    • @wakaflockaproject
      @wakaflockaproject 2 года назад

      Mine is a 2009 Dsg 6 speed. Just remember to service it every 40k miles or earlier

  • @colchronic
    @colchronic 2 года назад +16

    18:27 I was afraid my wife would walk in the room during this part

  • @reallybigfooted
    @reallybigfooted 2 года назад +13

    Charles nailed it "Better than a heater core!"

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 2 года назад

      Unless it is A6 C5, maybe? :P

    • @panzerveps
      @panzerveps 2 года назад +1

      @@rkan2 Or any of the newer gen VAGs. Pretty much a one hour job at the most.

  • @lilmangofast
    @lilmangofast Год назад +2

    I just fixed my sons S4. 2nd gear shift solenoid intermittent failure. When re-installing the valve body, the humble mechanic on his page said 28mm. In this video, he said it may depend on your year. Well my sons B8.5 I noticed it was about 4mm off. I set the servos for 32mm and it fell right into place. Great video.

  • @bloodymonkey1464
    @bloodymonkey1464 2 года назад +11

    My mechanic just recently bought a s4 with a bad Trans, and he replaced it for about $2500, considering that the mech unit alone cost basically as much you 100% should just replace the Trans and don't bother with dsg nightmares.

  • @SterlingSigurdsen
    @SterlingSigurdsen 2 года назад +2

    The fact you can deal with these transmissions speaks to the skills you have learned over the years.

  • @annaplojharova1400
    @annaplojharova1400 2 года назад +31

    The stalling looked like the clutch calibration was way out of whack, most likely because operated for so long when faulty. The controller just tried to slowly creep, but because the old shot clutch needed rather high pressure to do that, the controller just send that high oil pressure there. The new clutch grabbed way stronger on it, so before the controller had any chance to respond, the engine stalled. Same reason for the jerky shifting afterwards.
    I would guess normal procedure would be to reset the calibration. But as it managed to run, it will gradually recalibrate itself even on its own, it will just take some driving time, preferably involving a lot of shifting at various engine loads.
    For the exhaust bolt direction: I'm pretty sure the engineers knew what they were doing. The thing is, they have to observe other objectives too. First of them is to make sure it will be possible to disassemble even when exposed to road salt. The thing is, the flange forms a kind of barrier, preventing the salty mist just above the road to go above that flange. So what is below, will be way more exposed to that salty mess vs what is above that flange. This way below, so more exposed is just the bolt head, which is rather immune. The way more sensitive thread is then on the upper, cleaner side. Putting the nut down means the thread would be the more exposed part, so more likely get completely jammed by corrosion.
    And the other aspect is related to the car makers priorities: They care for these things to be serviceable at least somehow, last till the end of the warranty period and then be cheap, so fast and simple to assemble on the production line. The fact it becomes harder, so more expensive (labor) to service after the warranty goes out is not their problem, that would be paid by the customer.
    Plus I don't think disassembling this would be that big of a deal either, taking into account you have to replace that bolt anyway. So taking an impact hammer-wrench to loose it from the bolt head side and so eventually snapping off that bolt heat would still be good enough way to disassemble that.

  • @ricktgz1
    @ricktgz1 2 года назад +4

    Big reason why I Sold my MK7 GTI (DSG). It was having horrible whiny noises when in 5th-6th gear. It drove me insane. local Volkswagen shop told me it was definitely the transmission, and that I was better off just replacing the whole thing. It was still gonna cost me an arm and a leg even if I were able to find a used one. Parts + labor was still too much. Considering this was going on during the pandemic, when money was tight. I miss the car like crazy, but oh well. Definitely not worth the headaches.

  • @michaelstrongbow2336
    @michaelstrongbow2336 2 года назад +3

    Just from my experiences, after seeing the clutches were burnt and that was more than likely the "main" problem. I would have done a timing kit since the trans was out. 19:08 was some scary stuff man. Imagine the motor being just fine but the hydraulic tensioner decided to fail on start-up from sitting for a period of time. I enjoy watching your shows. Keep it up.

  • @ls430
    @ls430 2 года назад +8

    Amazing content, I replace mechatronics units on these gearboxes regularly, and I love the job, as I work at VW as a master tech in the U.K. ! We also replace the internal filters, the job at Audi here is about £4k
    £3299 for the mech
    So it’s amazing to see you repair one as we just replace and code with ODIS.
    Great video 👌👌

    • @mrk4956
      @mrk4956 2 года назад

      Hi so quick question do you guys charge customers at vw to replace dsg and mechatronic units if they have extended warranty

    • @user-sj1mw1mh1v
      @user-sj1mw1mh1v Год назад

      Hey Tom,
      The DSG on my 2008 A3 TDI is working fine when driving, but mostly when putting it into reverse it makes a clunking noise and it seems to go into gear on the 3rd attempt. Same when putting it into P. If it doesn't go into R or P the PRNDS Flashes and engine light comes on but drives fine.
      Fault code 1: Turbocharger Boost Control Sensor "A" circuit low.
      Fault code 2: P2711 'Unexpected mechanical Gear disengagment.

    • @Diminishedshred
      @Diminishedshred Год назад

      What are the causes of a DQ250 having a P1819 fault for the pressure control valve 2? And is this valve repairable?
      The MU was replaced brand new 1 year ago and has less than 15,000km on it.

  • @Anna-op4bs
    @Anna-op4bs 9 месяцев назад

    "it was better than a heater core" says so much... rad video, thanks as always for the very genuine content!!

  • @smisoian2255
    @smisoian2255 4 месяца назад

    Just did this today on the Q5 and the measurements got our heads spinning trying to put it back with a 28mm. We ended up reading some comments here and 30.2 mm got us going. Thanks everyone 🎉

  • @Capt_Trash_Panda
    @Capt_Trash_Panda 2 года назад +5

    I replaced the clutches in my 13 S4 in my garage. I ended up just putting the car into service position and pulled the entire engine out. Having a lift would be nice, but it is possible to do it without it, just a "bit" more work lol
    Mine were a little toasty, nothing like those clutch packs were... Mine were slipping due to a piggy back without a TCU tune.. extra power without extra clutch pressure is a bad idea everyone!

  • @russellhammond4373
    @russellhammond4373 2 года назад +3

    Love your video. Now I know why I recently purchased a manual (5 speed) VW car (not sold in the USA) rather than spend the USD 2,000 for the more powerful engine but 7 speed DSG. I couldn’t face having transmission issues in the future.
    Keep up the good work.

    • @stefan2796
      @stefan2796 Год назад

      Best to stay away from DSG transmissions. I drive a 7 speed DSG for around ten years now and it has been a financial pain in the ... Next car will be manual again!

    • @russellhammond4373
      @russellhammond4373 Год назад

      @@stefan2796 Sorry to hear of your issues. There are no manuals available in the Skoda / Audi / VW fleet in the Land of Oz. I was told when I picked mine up from the dealer that it was one of the last ones with a clutch. Why people don't like manuals is beyond me. I've driven them for just under 60 years and would like to keep on doing so.

    • @luisgpr1
      @luisgpr1 11 месяцев назад

      Driven 2009 Jetta DSG 8 years now, everything is still working as new. for @@stefan2796

    • @EazyDuz18
      @EazyDuz18 6 месяцев назад +1

      my TT has 300,000 miles DSG still works like new

  • @isaacgt3271
    @isaacgt3271 9 месяцев назад

    Its so cool to see the trans pulled apart and fixed nowadays, as an audi tech the modern “repair method” is just replacement rather than fixing it

  • @TheZeroLatitud
    @TheZeroLatitud 2 года назад

    I am planning on buying a DSG VW this year and I am glad I bumped into this channel.

    • @stefan2796
      @stefan2796 Год назад

      Best to stay away from cars with a DSG transmission.

    • @EazyDuz18
      @EazyDuz18 6 месяцев назад

      moron@@stefan2796

  • @rileylangrell7979
    @rileylangrell7979 Год назад +1

    I already LOVE Manual Cars, after watching this, makes me love them even more 😂

    • @EazyDuz18
      @EazyDuz18 6 месяцев назад +1

      manual is trash last gen technology

  • @mikestewart9088
    @mikestewart9088 2 года назад +1

    My obdeleven was in fact, purchased from shop DAP

  • @bfizzle81
    @bfizzle81 10 месяцев назад

    Just bought a 17 S7 with 55k on the clock and mech unit was JUST done by Audi before I purchased so hopefully I dont have to try and tackle this anytime soon... great informative video!!!

  • @K0nst4nt1n96
    @K0nst4nt1n96 2 года назад +1

    Oh man im happy that i only have manuals 😂 It was still interesting to watch and a lot to learn.

  • @biz4twobiz463
    @biz4twobiz463 2 года назад +1

    GREAT! GREAT! GREAT! video on the DSG trans!!
    17.7015 in-lb = 2Nm

  • @dragospahontu
    @dragospahontu 2 года назад +6

    As long as you have the tools and repair manual, you're good to go!

  • @timothyhaws2472
    @timothyhaws2472 2 года назад +3

    I bought a 2012 S4 and the metatronix was installed incorrectly and all I had to do was installed it correctly and the thing ran like a champ. Make sure install correctly.

  • @burb17
    @burb17 2 года назад

    Where have you guys been? Miss the more frequent videos and definitely miss the cars with cocktails podcast.

  • @Koachise
    @Koachise 2 года назад

    I have a 2013 S4 that has a donor transmission from a 2016 S4.
    I was one of the first S4 owners to post online about upgrading the transmission. Got it done at JH Motorsport . Turns out the B8.5 Transmission does fit in the B8 , but it needs to ODIS to code the unit to the car. Great content fellas.

    • @Capt_Trash_Panda
      @Capt_Trash_Panda 2 года назад +1

      2013 is a B8.5. You did not upgrade your transmission (unless you have a very early 2013) You went from a b8.5 to a b8.5 that required a OTIS update for the new mech. If you had just replaced your mech, OTIS would have to been used to recode it to your VIN.

    • @autotechnikertt
      @autotechnikertt 2 года назад

      You may be able to clone your old unit with pcm flash or AC-DP

  • @retrocompaq5212
    @retrocompaq5212 2 года назад +11

    ive been an audi mechanic for 7 years now, incredible how bad those things are, the s-tronic in the b8 s4 is the worst, i am so happy to drive a stick shift with a single mass flywheel from factory that doesnt rattle and without a pos mecatronic, at least the b8+ are easy to work on, more money and less hassle for me :D

    • @atomicgunpla
      @atomicgunpla 2 года назад

      Granny shifting yes! Double clutching no! “2nd brake pedal” for the win

    • @Tehsheeeep
      @Tehsheeeep 2 года назад

      what do u drive?

    • @bajszosjozsef4850
      @bajszosjozsef4850 2 года назад

      Is it the same as in the B8 A5 3.0 TDI?(240hp one)

    • @sauravpatwardhan8765
      @sauravpatwardhan8765 2 года назад

      What about the dl 382 on the b9

  • @Jimboslicevr
    @Jimboslicevr 2 года назад +8

    You guys together is just the best shit ever!

  • @empiking66
    @empiking66 2 года назад

    Have before. Bought a Mk5 Jetta TDI from a customer that needed a K1 solenoid. Pulled the mech, cleaned it, changed the fluid/filter and swapped the K1. Still running and driving years later.

  • @ramonpena3011
    @ramonpena3011 Год назад

    Hey! That's why I rather have a manual transmission, RELIABILITY!!!!! and proven repair method 😁. Nice job guys, I love to watch both of your channels 👍

  • @annurch558
    @annurch558 2 года назад +4

    My experience is limited to a 2011 Jetta with 7 speed DSG. Two recalls, both for DSG made no difference to the shift and take up quality, which was very poor before and after. At 45,000 km we decided to sell. The best we could get for it was Au $12,500 - for a four year old, always VW serviced, in otherwise good condition. So the depreciation was Au$0.50 per km!! An expensive car

  • @K24-SRT
    @K24-SRT 3 месяца назад

    Great video, very helpful did you run all the Adaptation below?
    1, Erase Counter for Start Stop Process.
    2, Clutch Valve Calibration
    3, Distance Sensor Calibration
    4, Reset Start Point Adaptation to Factory Settings.
    5, Engagement Point Adaptation

  • @smisoian2255
    @smisoian2255 4 месяца назад

    Just to make things easier. The measurements depends on the pins that must be set to neutral inside the box. And for some knowing the production date. Thank you for the video 🇿🇦

  • @eugeneleroux1842
    @eugeneleroux1842 2 года назад

    Thank you for these fantastic videos. They are of enormous value. Well done.

  • @saabsquad
    @saabsquad 2 года назад +2

    My dad and I replaced the clutch and mech unit on my 2013 s7 last month, fixed all my shifting/slipping problems! Did it in the driveway on jackstands as well, that was a nightmare lol

  • @LAW-fv6ys
    @LAW-fv6ys Год назад +2

    After replacing the clutch pack the clearances will be different to the adapted values. Therefore using a new or used clutch pack always requires basic settings and adaptions to be performed. Hence when you tried to select drive or reverse it stalled. But repeated attempts will probably get it to work as its always adapting.

    • @stefan2796
      @stefan2796 Год назад

      Agree, the workshop always performs an adaption "ride"/session after replacing the clutch. Can't do without.

  • @suyuanxie8022
    @suyuanxie8022 2 года назад +4

    DSG (DCT) used to screw up the Chinese automobile market in 2012, especially the VW model that have DQ200 7 speed and DQ250 6 speed . The DSG malfunction model include Magotan, Golf, CC, Skoda, Satigar and Scirocco. Mostly, these phenomenon of DSG are low gear palsing noise, lost speed for no reason, and clutch pack overheat.

    • @stefan2796
      @stefan2796 Год назад

      And cracks in the housing of the megatronic, this is actually a common problem...and expensive to repair!

    • @suyuanxie8022
      @suyuanxie8022 Год назад

      @@stefan2796 I'm sorry to hear that

  • @user-vc9xh8ei1g
    @user-vc9xh8ei1g 3 месяца назад

    I refer to an article called [DSG SOP 5.0] Thru it I really understand how properly to use DSG

  • @autotechnikertt
    @autotechnikertt 2 года назад +2

    Very nice video . Please note that these tcu's can be cloned with tools like PCM FLASH , this will allow the DIY guys to not have to go to the dealer or use ODIS with geko account .

    • @cookiehead2
      @cookiehead2 2 года назад

      Do you have more details or a know of a guide somewhere for PCMFlash?

  • @LastHumansGarage
    @LastHumansGarage Год назад

    I did think you were gonna read that whole list. I was pleased when you didn't. : )

  • @anthonytetreau522
    @anthonytetreau522 2 года назад +9

    So is it strange to have +230k on a 2010 VW CC 2.0t DSG? with 70k with APR tune and the last 30k with APR's K04 turbo and tune and have absolutely no issue with DSG?

    • @MM-tt7hy
      @MM-tt7hy 2 года назад +2

      Depends on the type of DSG. The DL501 was a problematic one in the beginning.

    • @jebasun02
      @jebasun02 2 года назад +1

      Is it still working? My dsg stopped at 182k. I had bought car at 140k miles.

  • @FU-Utube
    @FU-Utube 2 года назад +3

    If you guys ever create guides on how to fix a DSG, I would pay. Just as a heads up as an additional revenue line for the both of y'all. I'm an electrical engineer and I love seeing these beautiful units get tore down.
    I also laugh at your comments about the engineers not knowing any better, cause man, it's so true. I have to try to realign my ME's design so that it doesn't piss of a significant amount of people later lol.

    • @stefan2796
      @stefan2796 Год назад

      Repairing DSG transmissions triggered a whole line of business around it (specialized workshops), this says enough. Lots and lots of these gearboxes need repair, huge volume.

  • @axellludvic3490
    @axellludvic3490 2 года назад

    Very interesting video, personally I have never really worked on DSG gearboxes. I once worked on a Mercedes w221 gearbox that had it's clutches all burnt due to oil starvation, the transmission oil ran close to the radiator with coolant. Defective seals were the culprit.

  • @BeloshapkaAutoBuilds
    @BeloshapkaAutoBuilds 2 года назад +4

    Would it be cheaper to fix the DSG or do a manual swap?

  • @GTI1K1
    @GTI1K1 2 года назад +3

    A common problem is mechatronic failure. You need to learn how to swap the mechatronic and flash it with it software.
    You can do it with aftermarket tools like kess cmd…

  • @angelovazquez2321
    @angelovazquez2321 2 года назад +1

    Ended up doing both tsb’s and a clutch upgrade on my b8 by myself. Tons of labor and parts and now i have all these special tools I’ll probably never use again.

    • @jkon156
      @jkon156 2 года назад +1

      Now you're the guy to go to. Put the word out, can make some money doing this job for others!

    • @masmrz
      @masmrz 2 года назад

      I'm getting ready to do the gear range sensor myself. watched tons of videos(mostly Russian which I dont speak) online and downloaded the Audi service manual and I'm feeling confident about doing it.
      Any info you could pass on I would appreciate it.

    • @gplusgplus2286
      @gplusgplus2286 2 года назад

      Why not ebay the special tools? Others will need them too.

  • @anthonysharpe5104
    @anthonysharpe5104 2 года назад

    I have replaced a dsg gearbox in a 2010 125TDI diesel Jetta with one from a 2007.103 TDI Jetta. It worked straight up with no coding however the gear change points were not right for the more powerful engine. So I then replaced the mechatronic unit with the one from the original gearbox and presto it all worked as it should and we still have car.

  • @tonylyons2414
    @tonylyons2414 2 года назад

    Iv got a GOLF MK6 R in the UK and it’s only in 76K and runs like a dream,gear changes are so fast,but I’m going to be putting in a DQ500 in next year as there stronger than the DQ250 because I’ll be going for much more power,DSG is a great box i love it but I’m really lucky because my mate build these boxes and knows them inside & out does RS3 builds in a MK6 GOLF R or a R36 engine in a MK6,many things so I’m blessed if something were to go wrong

  • @carlosalves4444
    @carlosalves4444 10 месяцев назад

    Sounds like an endless money pit, and time sapping excercise, given it seems like the bermuda triangle of transmission issues. Give me a cold beer at the beach anyday over doing that, sure was fun to watch though.

  • @papiizill3366
    @papiizill3366 Месяц назад

    I have been a customer of dap for almost a decade and used to have my regular maintenance performed there too DId my ko4 swap exhaust cooler coilovers etc back in 2016... Still running strong.. Just drove it to NY this past weekend.. I have a low mileage B8 S5.. Was getting a chatter in 1st and reverse and would idle up and down when coasting on the hwy.. Oem mech was replaced at 50k from Audi.. Bought a low mileage trans w/a 6 month warranty Local Euro shop owed me money from a botched B8 build.. I purchased a low mileage B8 S5 trans with LM trans code .. They said the Mech mated properly.. But still kept getting trans code and the same idle while coasting issue.. They tried to do an adaptation and now it heats up and stops working going into limp mode.. Once it cools down it drives.. I performed adaption that i seen from another vender with vcds.. It went through.. But still goes in limp mode after it heats up... Is there something software wise that may need to be done???

  • @chrisrhodes5464
    @chrisrhodes5464 2 года назад

    Watching this makes me happy that I got rid of the Audi I had I had an 05 A4 quattro it got to the point where every week something was wrong with it it lost power had sounds of air leaking from the boost piping and would not go faster than 50 mph

  • @egeg4216
    @egeg4216 2 года назад +9

    Great video, I recently had a DSG issue where I could no-longer go into reverse or into even numbered gears ( 2,4,6) on my B8.5 S4 that had only 37k miles. Luckily I had an extended warranty as AUDI quoted the repairs to be £11k

    • @Jurrmie
      @Jurrmie 2 года назад

      what was the issue? My 2014 Jetta TDI is currently doing that

    • @egeg4216
      @egeg4216 2 года назад +1

      @@Jurrmie The sales rep couldn’t tell me exactly what it was, as it was “too technical”But I believe it has something to do with the clutch 2 as explained at 10:50

    • @louisparker7580
      @louisparker7580 2 года назад

      @@egeg4216 I have a 2017 Audi S3 and a the dq250 gearbox, and my clutch went after 37k miles from the pervious owner smoking it. Just out of warranty too so I had to pay £1.7k for a new clutch to be fitted!

    • @MrWaheedulHaque
      @MrWaheedulHaque 2 года назад +3

      @@Jurrmie its your clutch 2 tolerance limit will have been reached which means the clutch needs replacing desperately, its on its last legs haha

    • @Jurrmie
      @Jurrmie 2 года назад

      @@MrWaheedulHaque thanks, I’ll look into it. I was sure that the mech unit could’ve caused that

  • @kmac9759
    @kmac9759 2 года назад

    The face of “woah” when that thing starts and and sounds like a wood chipper for a few seconds.

    • @caveone-365
      @caveone-365 2 года назад

      Good old timing chain tensioner getting weak/ plastic shoes wearing or breaking off.

  • @kimanistewart1068
    @kimanistewart1068 2 года назад

    I have a q5 2012 that was unable to engage in reverse gear. Mechanic indicated that I should replace transmission. With the replacement transmission I had to change the drive shaft. Took it to an independent programer to delete TCU files. Currently the replacement transmission drives smooth and engages all gears when cold, and when it is warm it slip in gear 3 and it produces the following intermittent codes: p17e100, p174d00, p17d800, p176b00. and it also produces static code: p179c00
    This vehicle is a pain in the ass

  • @jasonmorales7527
    @jasonmorales7527 2 года назад

    My 2008 Volkswagen Rabbit. I'm glad it has a manual transmission built to last

  • @cadderlyb
    @cadderlyb 2 года назад

    Great work, knowledgeable and funny!

  • @joemong265
    @joemong265 2 года назад

    I have a 2006 A3 8P FWD DSG, 270 000km and ZERO Transmission Problem! 🤘😎

  • @HellaNooBs
    @HellaNooBs 6 месяцев назад

    Struggling with a no reverse and no even gears. Solved the slamming and jerking replacing the clutch pack but now ive got a clutch pressure too high code

  • @besenyeijacint
    @besenyeijacint Год назад

    Good engineering job guys, congratulations from Hungary. You might know a country where the A3, TT, S3 were produced and still.... Rgds Jácint

  • @torello928
    @torello928 2 года назад +2

    Is there an option for converting it to manual?

  • @manodounyayan8724
    @manodounyayan8724 Год назад

    The deal ar has a tsb repairing the whole mechatronic(replacing solenoids with circuit boards), and even have a kit includes solenoids and circuit boards, I've done it millions of time and it 100% fixes the problem.

  • @Jb-ip3di
    @Jb-ip3di 2 года назад

    The wheeler fat wrench is good for light torque specs, goes 10-65 inch pounds. 3 newton meters is about 26.5 inch pounds.

  • @tylerevans2261
    @tylerevans2261 2 года назад

    Yes b8.5 videos. Love it. I have a 14 s5

  • @1benyko
    @1benyko 2 года назад +1

    4:20 - LOL, "that's alot of damage"

  • @MrNeelmatt
    @MrNeelmatt 2 года назад

    Awesome video! I know you guys are super
    busy I just wanted to throw it out there that I really miss Cars and Cocktails! Will they're ever be anymore episodes?

  • @krisjones0926
    @krisjones0926 2 года назад

    love it so much when you guys are together lol

  • @felixokeefe
    @felixokeefe 2 года назад

    There are torque screwdrivers for this sort of thing. Check PB swiss tools for example.

  • @davidut55
    @davidut55 2 года назад

    Replaced a mech unit on a mk6 golf and just like yours it would stall in drive even after adaptation of clutches, but after some driving it got a lot better with mild problems when cold. In the end car got to the dealer and they replaced the clutches too. Old mech unit had a cracked housing on the accumulator.

    • @stefan2796
      @stefan2796 Год назад

      Cracked housing is a "common"/known problem, this is a design flaw (VW wants cheap(er) parts from suppliers), customer is the victim...happens over and over agai at VAG.

  • @bradleythirumurthi
    @bradleythirumurthi 2 года назад +1

    B8 S4 2010-2012 a scarier story than the conjuring

  • @F.S92
    @F.S92 2 года назад +2

    I love the DQ250 DSG on my Audi TT 2.0 mk3. But its a nightmare to use during crawl traffic and when I need to creep forward few inches.
    It jerks a lot. I thought the transmission was broken. 🤣

    • @VuBeClan
      @VuBeClan 2 года назад +1

      DQ250 TT MK3 owner here. Get a TCU tune, does wonders. No more jerkyness! Also the jerk to second gear is also gone.

    • @F.S92
      @F.S92 2 года назад +1

      @@VuBeClan I never had the jerk from 1st to 2nd.
      Its just the jerk from standstill to 1st gear.
      Imagine stopping and then needing to inch 20cm more towards the wall or another car. The car is unpredictable and kangaroo jumps more times than not. Guaranteed to hit a wall :D
      I heard some people say that TCU tune made the jerkiness even worse. (makes no sense to me why is that). But they did say that. Thats what scares me only :)
      P.s- did do the TCU tune? If YES, then did you do it with out any STAGES? and which Tune Company?
      REVO is here close to me.
      Cheers :)

    • @yousufzahid6949
      @yousufzahid6949 2 года назад

      @@F.S92 I have DSG-Tune on my mk2 TT 2.0 TFSI, which made the car extremely jerky from standstill, in addition to that the tune made it so the engine didn't cut/retard ignition during higher torque shifts, which felt like it was going to overheat the clutches. Now I think that the temp sensor on my mech unit is faulty which made the cars behavior additionally jerky after the flash. Had to take the car back to the tuning shop to reflash the trans back to stock except for 4000 rpm limiter in neutral and removal of automatic upshift in manual mode. Was much better after. The tuning shop I went to is local and I'm pretty sure they make their own files. Should be much safer to go with Apr, unitronic or revo

    • @stefan2796
      @stefan2796 Год назад

      Best to switch to manual DSG mode then, as it also prevents overheating of the clutches (result of overheating: "glazing" of parts of the clutch surface)

    • @F.S92
      @F.S92 Год назад

      @stefan2796 manual doesnt help if your issue is jerky motion during the 1st gear (at speeds of 2-5km/h)
      :)
      Manual mode wont change how the car operates in the 1st gear speeds :)

  • @ipexity5041
    @ipexity5041 Год назад

    People expect automatic transmissions to work without maintenance.. I know some cars run and drive without regular service, but if you service Audis, Volkswagens, BMWs, Mercedes of that era regularly, they can 9/10 times last long, especially diesel models.

  • @TheEDNC
    @TheEDNC 2 года назад

    I worked on several 1st gen DSG’s or Don’t Shift Good transmissions... the Megatronics were a HORRENDOUS mess!

  • @isaacolson5282
    @isaacolson5282 Год назад +1

    Any DSG from 2010-2016 is interchangeable. It is very much possible to run a b8.5 transmission in a b8. I have a 2014 S4 transmission in my 2010. The rear differential is exactly the same 2010-2016 so gear ratio doesn’t matter. Only thing you need is ODIS and maybe a b8.5 driveshaft if you have the early b8 transmission with flange instead of shaft. Also update cooler lines if you have early model in-line filter.

    • @rachegreenrg
      @rachegreenrg Год назад

      Or you can send S4 to the junkyard and live trouble free.

    • @lemmingzappa
      @lemmingzappa 4 месяца назад

      Any idea where I can find a guide to do this with ODIS? Fitting B8.5 PWW box to my 2010 B8.

  • @Alvaro-es1dv
    @Alvaro-es1dv 2 года назад +1

    The main problem is coolant leak of the coolant valve going through the wires to the mechatronics connector and inside the mech unit. That causes malfunction and burn the clutches. Also the trans fluid cooler leaks and the coolant goes into the trans mixing coolant with gearbox fluid, is necessary to do a glicol test. Common issue on all 0B5 DL501 gearboxes

    • @benjaminberger9629
      @benjaminberger9629 Год назад

      afaik, the 0b5 is cooled with an oil cooler, there is no coolant near the transmission?

    • @Alvaro-es1dv
      @Alvaro-es1dv Год назад

      @@benjaminberger9629 yes, 0b5 has the oil cooler but is cooled with coolant. is an exchanger

  • @user-sj1mw1mh1v
    @user-sj1mw1mh1v Год назад

    Hey,
    The DSG on my 2008 A3 TDI is working fine when driving, but mostly when putting it into reverse it makes a clunking noise and it seems to go into gear on the 3rd attempt. Same when putting it into P. If it doesn't go into R or P the PRNDS Flashes and engine light comes on but drives fine.
    Fault code 1: Turbocharger Boost Control Sensor "A" circuit low.
    Fault code 2: P2711 'Unexpected mechanical Gear disengagment.

  • @KujGaming
    @KujGaming 2 года назад

    I changed my trans in my 16 S6, I had to swap my stock TCM over to the new trans. Everything went smoothly though. The old Mech was completely melted

  • @Faintpumpkin916
    @Faintpumpkin916 2 года назад +1

    I did the repair kit twice failed both times exactly one year apart. 3rd time changed the mechatronics.

    • @TVTika
      @TVTika 2 года назад

      wow crazy thing

    • @Faintpumpkin916
      @Faintpumpkin916 2 года назад +1

      @@TVTika if you have a s4 from 09/13 and you start getting mechatronic issues just replace the whole unit with a newer one and you’ll be set for life

  • @disarchitected
    @disarchitected Год назад

    That transmission is HUGE.

  • @rosendolopez2014
    @rosendolopez2014 2 года назад +1

    B8.5 mech unit will work with B8 , just need to adapt immobilizer to tcu.

  • @jasmeetminhas765
    @jasmeetminhas765 2 года назад

    Love S4 content

  • @IvanLazov
    @IvanLazov Год назад

    Having a similar issue with DSG Transmission on Audi A4 B9 2017 after performing an oil and filter change. After putting everything back together and starting the car, running through the gears was not doing anything. The car was simply stuck in place. Tried changing one of the circuit boards, did't resolve the issue. The mechatronic unit was not functioning at all. Not sure sure how a simple change of the filters and oil (OEM once), following the procedures in the repair service manual cause this, but it happened. The solution was replacing the mechatronic unit with a new one. So even though trying to maintain the car as best as possible, it turned out in a bad way and cost quite a lot to repair.

    • @bosscashtube
      @bosscashtube 11 месяцев назад

      How much to fix your gearbox then????

  • @davidmusiyenko4158
    @davidmusiyenko4158 2 года назад

    Please do more upgrade videos on the B8.5 s4! Something like the motor mounts! There are no videos on that!

  • @julivwgti
    @julivwgti 2 года назад

    Have same issue with reverse was stall the engine. The problem was I was getting the pressure high for both clutches and I couldn't do the adaptation. So I checked the harness was good and I order the solenoids and now it running without problems

    • @tshilandetshilisanani4024
      @tshilandetshilisanani4024 7 месяцев назад

      Can you please share the photo of the solenoid you replaced i am having clutch 1 pressure too high and it stalls the car on reverse and 1st gear.

  • @oneeetwooooothreeee
    @oneeetwooooothreeee 17 дней назад

    I visited the offical Audi service few months ago to do a 7 speed s tronic transmission service (oil and filter) for a4 b9 2016. and they replaced the oil.
    I asked if filter is replaced and they told me that it is not needed.
    Is this correct, and what should i do?
    Btw. everything works fine in this moment with the transmission.

  • @tt-rs1457
    @tt-rs1457 2 года назад

    Maybee you will tend with making such a great video with the Jatco Tiptronic wich were used in the MK4 Golf.

  • @peterrestaino7047
    @peterrestaino7047 2 года назад +1

    Fixed my 09g jetta trans in my driveway. It was stuck in 4 or5th gear and had the PRNDS highlighted Using youtube and scan codes i had to focus on shift solenoids. they said dont worry about the two little ones, they never fail so i removed the valve body and did the trans go shift kit. i checked solenoids for continuity and all good. proceeded to dismantle the big solenoids and clean them as per the kit. ops checked them on the bench and they clicked as required. I Put it all together and it failed again. dumped the fluid and removed valve body again. this time i checked all the soleniods even the two little ones they said dont fail. using a cut downmetal can i put trans fluid in it .I immersed the solenoids in it and heated with a blow torch and a thermometer i applied power using a motor cycle battery and test wires and tested each up to 170 degrees making them click on and off and guess what, one of the little solenoids failed open at 170 and i almost flipped out because I found the problem. put in two new little solenoids and all is good and that was two years ago. I told a foregn auto shop guy what i did and he said that he would never would have found that and probably would just changed the valve body. They dont have time for that but i did. BOOM

  • @MrWaheedulHaque
    @MrWaheedulHaque 2 года назад +1

    Can you fix my worn DSG clutch plates for me :), Its the dreadful 7 speed dry gearbox on the MK6 Golf

  • @fredericocorrea9814
    @fredericocorrea9814 8 месяцев назад

    I have a B7 Audi A4. I want to service the transmission because it feels like it is sticking from 3rd down to 1st as I decelerate. Any help or advice or video to watch? Any help would be appreciated

  • @mohammedidrissiddiqui6315
    @mohammedidrissiddiqui6315 2 года назад

    transmission working absolutely fine just I’m getting error repeatedly Gearbox is overheating change driving style .. and fault code is P1765 hydraulic sensor 2 adaptation limit reached ( g194).. the local mechanic recommend to change valve body ..

  • @nikolaosezikis7622
    @nikolaosezikis7622 9 месяцев назад

    One thing that is problematic in these cars is the Gear/drive Selector Sensor , now i dont know of many models but the RS series i have owned so far at some point (if driven as an RS and not as a woman goin home-supermarket) they failed and its pain in the you know where to change it as it is residing...IN THE GEARBOX. you need to completely disassemble all the box to reach to it. Other than the fact that in 90% of the case you need to remove the box and open it, everything in those gearboxes is repairable and shouldnt frighten people to do so always of course if owners strictly follow the service manual Audi has given

  • @trevorbuckley4574
    @trevorbuckley4574 2 года назад +2

    I'm a 5th year M.E. student, I hope I can make a difference and make cars easier for mechanics to work on :), Or, at least learn why car engineers do stupid stuff

  • @markeee5267
    @markeee5267 2 года назад +1

    Does it worth to do a manual swap instead if DSG is bad ?

  • @tomthompson7400
    @tomthompson7400 2 года назад

    great video.