Audi DL501 S4/S5/S6/S7/RS5 DSG Service | Differential Service + VCDS Clutch Adaptation | DIY
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- Опубликовано: 13 янв 2021
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ECS Tuning Engineer Derek Osmundsen explains how to properly service your DL501 Transmission on his Audi C7 S6 which is 2013-2018 and up DL501 Transmissions S4/S5/S6/S7/RS5. Derek also does a quick service on his S6 differential and shows us step by step on how to properly do a clutch adaptation using VCDS Software.
Step by Step Clutch Adaptation:
For best success rate, the transmission temp should be at 50°C (should work between 40°C and 60°C. This can be monitored through VCDS --Module auto trans-02 -Adv. measuring values - Trans. temp.
Step 1: With the car keyed on, loaded up the module auto trans-02 and go to basic settings-04. select the drop down window and select the text "Erase counter for start and stop processes" select "go" and wait until the text "finished correctly" appears. Select "stop", then select "done, go back" so it redirects you to the main auto trans module screen.
Step 2: Start the car and leave it in park. You should still have the module Auto trans-02 open, so select basic settings-04 and proceed to the drop down window. Find the text, "Clutch valve calibration" and select "go". Wait for the text "finished correctly" and hit "stop", but do not close out of the basic setting module yet.
Step 3: In the drop down window fine the text, "Distance sensor calibration" and select "go". This should take a minute and you will hear your transmission making noise. Wait for the text "finished correctly", select "stop" and "done, go back" to the auto trans-02 module. Back out to the main VCDS screen showing all of the modules once you are ready to start step 4. Turn the car off at this time.
If at any time step 1-3 fails/ faults out, you will need to start over again at step 1. Once these three steps are complete, move onto step 4 and 5.
Step 4: Key the car on and loaded up the module auto trans-02 and go to basic settings-04. Find the text, "Reset start point adaptation to the factory setting" and select "go". Wait for the text, "finished correctly" and hit "stop", but do NOT back out of the module!
Step 5: While still in the basic settings-04 module, start your car and leave it in park. In the drop down window find the text, "Clutch engagement point adaptation" and hit "go". Wait until it says "finished correctly", select "stop", "done, go back" and you will be back at the auto trans-02 module home screen.
If at any time step 4 or 5 fails/ faults out, you will need to start over again at step 4. Once these two steps are complete, move onto step 6.
Step 6: Clear all fault codes and you are ready to drive to adapt the clutches! This will take between 1 and 3 hours to do so. Make sure not to push the car hard while adapting the clutches. If you choose, you can monitor the status via Auto Trans-02 - Adv measure values - and find the text, "adaptation status of the engagement point clutch 1" and "adaptation status of the engagement point clutch 2". These can be monitored and will display "completed" when the adaptation is done.
You have now completed the full clutch adaptation! 
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This is the most comprehensive, no nonsense instruction I’ve ever seen on RUclips, I seriously appreciate it, so I bought the full kit listed below.
Another great, life/time saving video.. Thanks ECS Tuning...
Amazing video and I needed this as I got my kit from you guys and doing the dsg service right now for my 13 RS5
Perfect timing I need to do this ASAP
This is an amazingly great video 📹. Thank you for posting. What is the purpose of this Adaptation and what happens if u changed the DSG fluid but you didn't do the Adaptation?
Legend bro ! Peeeerfectly explained (some names in vids are slightly different depending on the version ) but overall is perfect
Thank you ECS for this great DIY, Just to clarify on the last fill up when the temp needs to be 30 to 40 C, do the car needs to be off or in idle? Thanks Again.
Hey just two questions on the clutch adaption and the 2 hours step where you saying drive in d and s mode, so I take it do an hour in s and d each? Also can the two hours of driving be done in a several trips, or does it need to be continuous driving?
If you have a TCU tune like APR, does the adaptation clear the new programming? Also, if it's been 15,000 since last service and it's not quite shifting right, would a new adaptation be of any benefit. My '13 is just a little sluggish to engage or down shift at times. It's got 113K miles on it.
Hi Derek, do you have a procedure for changing the ATF fluid in the sport differential as far as the steps to purge the air out of the solenoids using VCDS? I see the #22 AWD module but once there I don't see what to choose to do the actual purge. Any info you have on this would be appreciated!
Thanks for the video. Do you have the video to replace the ATF side of the differential?
hello have a question do you have to keep the foot brake or service brake pressed when you do the adaptation with vcds? Thanks
Thanks ECS!!! Purchased my DSG service kit from you guys! Going to try the clutch adaptation to try and fix RPM surge when coming to a complete stop.
Refer this to a TSB (forgot the number code) this is a known problem and I had it on my s7 when in sport mode. Audi charged me about 70 dollars and it fixed right away .
@@cabelosurf really? They fixed it for that out if warranty? If you find that tsb # hook me up.
@cabelosurf did you ever find the number?
Great video. I have a question about servicing the DSG. I have an Audi A4 B9, after changing the oil of the AFT, changing the oil and filters of the MFT, when I start the car I'm getting the following error - Gearbox Malfunction ( No Reverse Gear ). The car won't go neither to Drive, nor Reverse, it stays in place. Is there any adaptation needed, because I've followed an Audi servicing Manual for my car, and there was no mention for any adaptation, etc. I would appreciate any help on that matter. Thanks!
What a truly "fantastic' tutorial.... and I'm in the UK (yes)...on the other side of the pond from you folks...
Awesome! Thank you!
Do i have to drive for two hours at a time?
Or possible in stages?
For the last step, instead of ‘clutch engagement point adaptation’ the closest I found in my VCDS is ‘adaptation of clutch kiss points’. I’m guessing those are the same, correct?
Perfect Video .THX
hey guys, I have to swap my sport differential out for a new sport differential. Do you have any leads on how to adapt the new sport diff to the to the car? it's 2013 b8.5 s5 stronic. It was throwing the implausible signal code and the electric motor and pump had gone out. I can't find much information online about the adaptation process for the sensors etc.
Hi, is it necessarily to make the adaptation? Or just an option. My car's shifting pretty good now, so just the oil change is enough? Thank you for your answer
Really great video. Very through and well covered.
Is there any residual (dirty ) fluid left in the system that could be flushed out? Or is this the way this is done?
Thank you, Jim
There is always some fluid left in the system, but it shouldn't be enough to hurt anything. Make sure you give the car enough time for the fluid to settle before draining. The filter should be holding most of the harmful particulates. At this time, I do not know of another way to remove 100% of the fluid beyond pulling the transmission apart and cleaning everything which is far more complicated and involved. You do not want to run the risk of running the clutches dry as it will cause serious damage resulting in replacing the clutches all together.
@@ecstuning Thank you for your answer. I just did one and then after 20 miles just drained what came out and refilled with more new fluid. It really shifts awesome now. Thank you for showing all the computer details, we still had to read the procedure twice to make sure we were doing it the same as you showed. Awesome. Jim
Is there 2 sets of oil in this trans ? some state the gearset and clutch fluid is different ?
Great one
So I have a 2021 audi s4, does this apply to the newer ones too?
What a handsome car 🤤
Very thorough explanation of everything involved. I did however notice that you did not do the "Main Pressure Valve Calibration". Is this step not necessary? When would one do the "Main Pressure Valve Calibration"? Thanks!
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Can you do this adaptation on Audi 2017 Q7 3.0T supercharged , With ZF 8HP
Good my man
i .. I have Audi 7 2013.. transmission working absolutely fine just I’m getting error Gear is overheating change driving style .. and fault code is P1765 hydraulic sensor 2 adaptation limit reached .. pls advise what could be the actual problem??
Why doesn't anyone address the gear oil in the DSG? I get not doing the ATF in the diff... but gear oil in the trans and diff at the same time seems like a no brainer?!?
I can't find anything showing this although I presume it's as simple as my 6MT.
Got any hints?
Cheers, KS
can i used obdeleven to do Clutch Adaptation?
Can I do this for my 2007 Audi s6?
The dap diy says to do it another way. Who to trust?
Great video. Appreciate the DIY/easy approach to servicing these cars. I do have a 17' A4 allroad which I've been told uses the DL382-7Q trans-not the DL-501. It has the Ultra-Quattro too. Two questions: 1) will this service kit also work for the DL382, and do you know if it is a similar process for performing adaptation with VCDS? @ECS Tuning
Derek says "The service kit will not work as it probably uses a different gasket and filter. Adaptation will probably not carry over too."
@@ecstuning Adaptcja serwisowa działa, może nazwy funki nie są takie same ale tyczą się tego samego, i kolejność jest taka sama,, jeżeli ktoś sobie zyczy opracowałem pod VCP , na podstawie twojego opisu i swoich prób.
@@pankasprzyk Hi Kasper, Czy testowałeś to na samochodzie ze skrzynią biegów DL382? Ja też bym to zrobiła i piszesz, że to działa?(Google translator)
Does this also apply to the Q5?
Hey what dsg transmission comes in the B8.5 (2013-2017) RS5? I know it’s a 7 speed.
Same one as this video, DL501
Do you have to do the VCDS part? Can you do this change without it?
You need it yes, or obd11 should work too (I think)
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I can't get clutch valve aditation show complete ,it will aborted safety issue , why ? And after changed dsg oil when i came to stop it will bump 1 time like clutch not release in time ,but if i manually select in 1st gear than stop it become normal , no bumpping ,why? ,Vcds shows no fault code at all
Same for DQ500?
you specifically mention "DSG filter", and then there is the external filter. Do these serve two different purposes ?
I believe one is for the trans cooler. So it has two filters cleaning the same fluid
Would I be able to do the adaption process with obd eleven pro or is vcds required
Obd11 will work
I wish you had shown in more detail how to get the pan past the hydraulic lines either side. I tried this DIY yesterday and became stuck at that point. The pan wouldn't move past the solid coolant/hydraulic lines so I couldnt do the internal filter
I bent the line out of the way its barely blocking it. It looks like he unbolted the line from the cooler
transmission working absolutely fine just I’m getting error repeatedly Gearbox is overheating change driving style .. and fault code is P1765 hydraulic sensor 2 adaptation limit reached ( g194).. the local mechanic recommend to change valve body ..
Will the adaptation mess with a tran tune?
Nope.
Do you have to drive around for 1-3 hours IN A ROW after doing this adaptation? Or does it just finish when it finishes...
(and to 2nd EJ's comment, will this effect or change a TCU tune in any way? Mine is APR Stage Final)
Thank you great video.. a little more in depth than Deutsche Auto's
You do not have to drive for 1-3 hours straight after the adaptation, it just takes from 1 to 2 hours to fully adapt. This can be done over many drives as long as you are between the even and odd gears to set both clutches.
This will not mess up a TCU tune. My S6 has an APR TCU tune which controls a lot of other values and target points such as line pressure, clamp load, rev limiter, etc.
@@ecstuning Awesome thank you so much. You guys have best quality DIY videos for this platform that I have seen. S6 is a Beast!
@@ecstuning If anything it will help the tune
Hello please why did you do the clutch adaptation?
So it learns new engagement points with the new fluid.
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Hi nice video. Can you help me with my problem please. My transmission always show me P287B00. I did all according instruction (Rosstech forum)
Thank you
would this work on a A5 with the s-tronic 7 speed?
A5's never came with an S-tronic gearbox (in the states, but they may have elsewhere in the world). If it truly is an S-tronic gear box, it is indeed a DSG and this adapation will work. With that being said, most A5's came with a tip Tronic gearbox which is not a DSG.
@@ecstuning A5s and A4s came with 7 speed DSG in Australia, same DL501 i believe. We don't like our tiptronics or multitronics here
Mine is failing on clutch engagment point adaptation part. When doing the engagement point caibration it finishes the process for clutch 1 but when it tries to set engagement point for clutch 2 it aborts due to safety reasons. Bit stuck what to do here. Any ideas why it might be failing just on clutch 2? When looking at the pressure values while its trying to calibrate, for clutch 1 the pressure starts from about 2 bar and gradually goes to to about 2.8 bar then completes, then when it moved to calibrate clutch 2 it just sits a about 2 bar for a few seconds and then you get the aborted for safety reasons message :(
What did you end up doing? Mine is saying the same thing :/
@@alinbaraiac1543 I cant remember exactly what I did now, but it did work eventually. I wrote down exact instructions on what I did for my 2013 3.0 TDI so maybe its of some use :) I think some of my steps are unnecessary, but i as just annoyed faffing around with this so one way or another, the steps i followed below seemed to work >>
1. Drive car from cold until transmission fluid reaches 41 degrees.
2. Park and engine off
3. Go to auto trans, basic settings with VCDS and ‘erase counter for start and stop process’. When it says not running click stop.
4. Start the car in park, take off hand brake and put foot on brake
5. Do ‘clutch valve calibration’ then when it says finished correctly hit ‘done and go back’ (dont click ‘stop’, not sure if this is required but its what a guy did on a youtube video)
6. Go back to basic settings again and do ‘distance sensor calibration’ then click stop, then ‘done and go back’
7. Stop engine, then turn on ignition only
8. Reconned to VCDS, go back to basic settings, bring up the live view of clutch pressures so you can see whats happening and then do ‘restart point adaptation to factory setting’ then click ‘stop’ when its finished’
9. Start the engine
10. Do ‘clutch engagepoint point adaptation’ then click ‘stop’ then ‘done and go back’ then exit everything in VCDS and turn off engine, take key out, wait 10+ seconds
11. Start engine, go back to auto trans then ‘advanced measuring blocks’ display the info for clutch adaptation status and also clutch 1 and 2 pressure values. Note: When i started driving for a bit, these values kept switching to N/A as VCDS lost connection. Not sure why, but had to keep resetting VCDS and displaying these, after doing that about 3 or 4 times they would keep displaying property.
12. Drive in all gears for 3 seconds including reverse (not sure if this is necessary, but did it anyway to make sure it was driving OK after the above calibrations)
13. Drive car on level ground (long dual carriageway ideal) at 60mph in 6th gear until ‘break in’ complete Then at 50mph in 5th gear until ‘break’ in complete. While doing these, keep eye on live mpg usage, so you can keep that as static as possible. In my 3.0 TDI it was about 49mpg at those speeds in each gear when the calibration steps worked.
Wow. Awesome. I really appreciate the reply!! I’ll try these out as soon as I can.
@@alinbaraiac1543 No worries, let me know how you get on :-) I curious to know if what I did made a difference or if it was just a case of me retrying it over and over until it eventually worked lol
I did my DSG service on my B8.5 S4. Didn't do any kind of clutch adaptation routine, but it's been fine. I haven't looked to see if that's even possible with an OBDEleven (Don't have VCDS). Anybody know? Still need to do the sport diff.
Yes it is possible with OBD eleven, I've done it myself to my S7
It works however some of the names are slightly different
@@curtdragon can you tell what is "reset start point adaptation" in obdeleven? Other steps looks the same naming. Thanks.
Hi are you guys able to run through what to do when you get "error request out of range" or "aborted for safety reasons", I can't seem to get past "Erase counter for start and stop processes" it just gives me the "error request out of range". Trans is at 50C, ign on, in park and parking brake on....
figured out what was wrong? ran into same issues as you…
We are researching the issue for you. Were you able to find a solution?
@@ecstuning Na mate not yet, still can't get past "error request out of range" I think its the erase counter for start stop process
@@shaneil7901 I have same problem with steps 1 and 2. Tested ATF temp 0-60 dec. No luck
@@ecstuning Happening to a few of us, any updates by chance?
For me, about 5.5L came in. Is that normal. Instructions as in the video performed.
Same, did you find a solution? Thx
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It don't take much to do an oil change on an old Audi does it.
What if I do all these and the reverse still doesn’t work
If you filled it first then drained it then I don’t think there would be any fluid in the trans. Probably wouldn’t work too well with no fluid
After the clutch adaptation I feel like it’s not quite as smooth as before
same sh*t, especially at 1st gear
It blows my mind these cars are so complicated and expensive to maintain; and for what? a little better shifting?
Nobody does all this steps unfortunately 😔
No electric tools 😢sheeeesh I know these jobs take long