Master Roshi Is STRONGER Than Super Saiyan Blue Level
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
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Yes it's true. Master Roshi truly is Super Saiyan Blue level in Dragon Ball Super. Master Roshi has surpassed Super Saiyan God Goku and Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku from Resurection of F. In the tournament of power, Master Roshi fought against the strongest characters in the multiverse. In the manga version of Dragon Ball Super, Roshi fought against Jiren. This alone gives you a taste for how powerful Roshi is.
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This was a great video but it further cemented how stupid DragonBall's powerscaling & Power Consistency ever was xD.
Roshi spending most of his days on a Brazzers websitescan now solo Z Villains like Namek saga Frieza, Cell, and Kid Buu Casually LMAOOO
Him doing No Nut November lets him be able to fight Frost and Dodge Jiren. I love Roshi but come tf on, u couldve at least shown him doing a modified version of his turtle hermit training rather than making people Assume lmao but all they really care about is replicating hype brain of characters people love to sell more and merch these days so "quality writing" takes a backseat to the Bank hahahaha
Bro stop the cap with your head canon
@@johnathan1737but it's true tho.
In the manga he has a prototype version of Ui
😂😂😂I really want to know what sort of training did he do to get this high?
@@kapayasiame3632 well thats not explained but master roshi and other mentors have always tried to teach goku the basics of ultra instinct which is instinctively
Lol super completely broke the powerscale. Master Roshi being this strong is completely absurd. But, I low key kind of love it too.
Same
It's great to expand the scope of the series and have more characters doing stuff than Goku and Vegeta. Power scaling is not as important as actually being good. They did the best they could with what they were given and just decided to say "screw it, it doesn't make sense with how the series has worked so far but the internal logic is ruining the story potential of the show anyway."
And that’s cool but again and again super is proven to not be at the level it’s hype Would suggest whilst people dog GT
I just wish it wasn’t so cheap.
You think jiern went all out against roshi?
It’s ironic. Roshi said it himself, “When you get so caught up in an enemy’s power, you’ll be as green as the day we met” & that’s exactly what this video is about
What do you mean?
Ayo 😂
Good one lol
@@QaamansLand judo understanding the flow of energy
Damn 😔
Exactly. For example Goku in the manga recklessly using Kaio-Ken with Blue, Goku thinking its more power he needs but no its how you "move" and not being caught up with your opponents power. Every one of Goku's teachers have stated this.
In the Cell Saga, Roshi was mad at himself for not able to do anything when Tenshinhan fled off to where Cell is. I think he started to train secretly after that 😆
Ah, I was thinking about it too
Hahah, that would be funny theory if it was possible.
....He fought in Resurrection of F and only had the power to fight Frieza grunts. Impressive for him, sure, but he wasn't pulling the numbers Tien was by a LONG shot.
what fking numbers, tien didnt do shit even against freeza grunts, roshi did more lol@@9751matt
Sooo…..Where was he in the buu arc?
@@unchaineddemigod794 exactly what was doing during the 7 year period. I’m sure he could have gotten as strong as he is in Super.
Roshi in Z: I’m retiring because all my students (even Yamcha) have surpassed me at this point.
Roshi in Super: jk, I’m actually still way stronger than any other human lol!
I think he was being nice to them.
Sure they did learn his main techniques quite quickly but master roshi has very deep sleeves filled with techniques and tricks that would take a lifetime to master.
@@jailcatjones3250no….. if that’s the case he should of been helping out against the android’s
@@shyboss15x35he could've helped against Buu, you know used proto ui to wipe Buu 😂
We all know the real reason is that he knew he could laz around with the new guys on the block handling things.
@@jailcatjones3250That just makes more plotholes.
Roshis sister is Fortune Teller Baba and she seems to be well connected with otherworldly places and people. I wouldn’t be surprised if she assisted Roshi in his continued training.
Dude trained with Popo.
"First rule about Popo's training, do not talk about Popo's training!"
With the Jiren thing in the manga, I take it as Jiren kinda sizing up Roshi to know just the right amount of power to use without killing him, and when he grazed Roshi's chin he knew how much to use and quickly got rid of Roshi.
Roshi was dodging punches Jiren thought would've been enough to take him out and probably blocked with his arm to get a more feel for how much force, if he could blow away golden Frieza and Ssjb Goku & Vegeta with a pinky he couldve easily squished Roshi like a litteral bug 🐛.
And from Roshi's perspective, he's not worried about dying cause of the rule, and if Jiren does end up killing him, he at least takes the biggest threat out with him.
At least, that's how I kinda saw it, I kinda felt like that's something Roshi might've done given the situation.
Yep, Roshi was doging attacks equivalent to his level.
yeah lmfao people out here really acting like jiren was trying against roshi
I agree, also SSB is said to have perfect Ki control so Goku fighting Krillin and him stacking up to Goku was most likely just Goku using enough power to test him
Really? What I got from it was that control and skill in using ki is dramatically more important than raw amounts of it.
@midgetydeath maybe any other series, but DB isn't that well thought out, and the power system is a mess with how easily they multi their power even though basic training and gains are inconsistent hell they hardly need to even, I can't even fathom the humans being namek Frieza's lvl with the system they put in place Krillin after his massive boost from Guru was still like x1000 weaker than Frieza and from what we seen of him i cant see him getting something like am equivalent of ssj20 lvl of power in a few yrs and they knew it too, and stop using power lvls it's always been a number game for the series
I don’t get how y’all still misinterpret how this story wrote UI and Jiren. It’s even DOUBLE DOWNED in SuperHero that Jiren’s ki control is so calm and focused that he can suppress himself enough to where someone like Roshi (who’s also skilled in his own right) can outmaneuver him with a technique SIMILAR TO ULTRA INSTINCT. It was a scene meant to display true martial arts capability vs a character that prioritizes brute raw strength because he lost his master and neglected his teachings
The cope is real you put more thought in this comment than the entire writing staff of dragonball super
Exactly, jiren literally one shot him, look at his face in the manga.
@@samsunofthesunthis
That doesn't make any sense, we know the z fighters know this control and even others, but there no way. Jiren gonna miss a punch. Homie moves faster than light.
@@handsanitizer2457 Roshi isn't going to survive a light speed punch, obviously Jiren was pulling his punches on his speed not just his power
I'm sorry, but I find it hard to believe that Master Roshi, even with his experience as a master of martial arts, can be on the level of super saiyan blue, even with the inconsistent power scaling of dragonball super.
No shit?
Yea it just feels lazy imo, it would have been different if we saw these characters training but it seems like the characters are just as strong as the story needs them to be at any time.
And the “they trained off screen” explanation isn’t sufficient for me personally. Show me this training don’t just tell me they trained
@@yoshistar8985 there’s no problem with them being strong but the question is how did they do it.
@@kapayasiame3632 I agree
@@yoshistar8985 I thought we accepted off screen training we Goku got Super Sayian 3? what's up with the inconsistent standards?
0:48 but Frieza literally says the soldiers seemed to have hit a decline in his absense implying that they were weaker than the soldiers he had previously.
Personally I'd say it's hard to tell since Roshi imitiated UI and took some hits from Jiren. Yet he was struggling little bit with Moro's henchman who Inst comparable to Base Goku.
base Goku scales below small caliber bullet level that his 10 power level child version was able to tank unguarded with no damage. Roshi slaps susano'o UI Goku
Ui? Tf roshi nor jiren know ui
When was Roshi ever said to have used ui?
@@toasterbath2069 He was doing a fake UI that's why I said Imitated READ BRO
@@Absolute_Crimson I did read…. You said “initiated” not “imitated”
Considering how strong he got in super, this begs the question how strong would roshi be in the future timeline considering how many years have passed.
He could have one shot Goku Black
That "logic" makes absolutely no sense. There is no doubt that they gave Master Roshi plot armor.
In Z, are the Z Fighters who are humans ever SS level? If not, how did they survive hits from the Androids or Cell? How did Krillin hurt SS Goku with a rock? Were they restraining themselves (willing holding back their power in battle or during moments of relaxation/comfort) or is Z's power scaling also broken?
@@JustADemon2023their logic is that ~there is no ki control~ so it's very clear that Mr Satan could have beaten future androids because he beated android 18 in one punch at the tournament and he even survived one hit from cell so, according to the video, Mr Satan is at super Saiyan full power Goku level
I like to think of it as since he's lived for so long, Roshi can easily evaluate all of the Z-fighters training methods and improve upon and utilized them for his own training. Like Goku, Vegeta, and Piccolo are masters in their own right, but Roshi dwarfs their age. He can probably easily decipher everything wrong with their fighting styles and what's holding them back kinda like how Whis and Beerus can. Roshi would probably be Whis and Beerus's favorite student since he just sorta "gets it."
Yeah, that is pretty much Roshi's power he is truly s master, knows more about fighting than anyone except perhaps Wis and Beerus, and has the honed skills to put all they knowledge into practice.
Piccolo is much older as far as experience goes, I know in age Piccolo is even younger than Goku but when he merged with Kami he absorbed all of Kami's experience, and remember that Kami has been around since Roshi's old master was still alive, king Piccolo was a thing because of Kami, so Piccolo should have the experience and wisdom of a sage but the creators had done piccolo dirty until orange piccolo
@@ungido30Yes, but there is no explanation of Piccolo actually trying to... well train, until Piccolo JR. It feels it was more or less a 'Freeza' situation, he just was that strong from the get go. Then again Kami did train Goku so he does have martial arts training, so yeah it's... weird.
I have a hard time thinking of it that way since goku figured out the kamehameha almost instantly and it took roshi 50 years.
@locdogg86 yeah, but Goku's Kamehameha is not perfect. He just dumps a boatload of ki into it. Roshi's is perfectly smooth and focused.
"Perhaps" Giggity
My issue is that Goku and the others aren’t just stronger and faster then Roshi, by the end of Dragonball all of them surpassed him in the martial arts aspect as well.
Yes, I said that in the video?
@@QaamansLandyou don't have to be a dick. Your response was unwarranted
@@jdrmanmusiqkinghow is he being a dick
@@jdrmanmusiqkinglay off the crack cocaine
The Younger People Always Has Higher Potential.
Roshi likely began training again after he felt p*ssed over being useless after seeing Tien go off to fight Semi Perfect Cell.
Doesn’t matter when he started. It’s dumb and he hit his ceiling at the end of DB. This isn’t a ‘bit’ stronger. This is literally hundreds of thousands of times stronger when just becoming twice as strong is normally a big deal in Z.
It’s insane
@@famalam943 nonsense, he was always this strong, just a little rusty
@@ryotoiii7945 worst take I’ve ever heard
@@famalam943Bad take doesn’t matter and your dumb, who are you to decide what is possible. Toriyama decided that and it’s that. Either 1, Roshi was always this strong just rusty or Roshi trained the latter is possible and probably is true
Ah this was a 2 hour video edited down in 14 hours to 16 minutes
Roshi is just super skilled af
emphasis on SUPER
The stream really opened my eyes to the effort that can be put into these
I just think Jiren was holding back as not to kill him
Roshi is like fine whiskey, the longer he ages the stronger he gets. Personally Loved the Roshi rampage. he has the scrappy old dude vibe common in manga, and im here for it. after all, he did train most of the most powerful warriors in the universe. combine that with storing up his nut and his power woupd have to be INSANE
No Matter how strong A person/thing/being gets the elder that taught/raise/with will always have their number. Only person that Roshi cant out wit as outer aliens, Beerus, and Whis. Plus his regen/immortality is different than Buus,
Roshi doesn't have regen...
Roshi said in the Tournament of Power he was inspired to get stronger because he was proud of his pupils Goku and Krillin. They definitely over powered him. If they would have gotten him around the strength of Krillin and gave him some new technique similar to the Mafuba, that would have made more sense.
Roshi must be training with Mr. Popo 😂
First Rule don't talk about Mr.Popo's training.
So technically roshi has the most potential in the series
More than Frieza and Cell and Gohan
If bro does ONE pushup be could become too powerful.
Bro is literally Saitama
No matter how you slice it, it doesn't make any fuckin sense.
Roshi is one of my favorite character, always thought he was awesome, perversion aside, but Super really went overboard with him. Though I do like the idea of him having the basics of UI down since if any human has the mindset and experience required to learn the most basic foundation of UI without actually tapping into UI, Roshi does. Really though, the manga could've done a better job getting that across without having him fight Jiren or having absurd power ups. Ahh screw it, I like the badass old master trope too much to overly care. Guess I'll just head-canon him secretly training in the time chamber on and off for, say, a total of 100 or more years, thus exploiting his eternal life span.
Roshi pulled the "i taught you everything you know. But not everything I know."
im pretty sure Roshi gets stronger every time he sees a women. that is his training.
Roshi doesn’t get “stronger”, he continually overcomes his weaknesses.
Here's my thing.
I think it's actually very simple.
And it's that after Super Saiyan Blue became a thing, Dragon Ball super just disregarded the base form character levels.
It tried to go back to characters that could fight regardless of how strong they were in the sense of power level. It uses a simple formula which is basically saying this character is stronger than this other character, but that doesn't mean that the weaker character couldn't at least try to fight them. (Like Krillin and Gohan fighting frieza to help goku charge the spirit bomb)
And I think the reason for this is because they put so many feets into Super Saiyan God during Battle of gods that they didn't know how to top it. So now it just seems like Super Saiyan Blue is just a stronger Super Saiyan as opposed to this form should be insane levels above Super Saiyan.
Roshi wouldn't want to fly even if he had the options to do so - which he does. But cuz flying takes energy and seems to be the kinda guy with no matter how strong he'd get he'd want to store away as much power as he can before a fight.
when he gets rid of that pride he will become even more powerful if you notice when everyone started to fly their energy levels grow and progress much faster
I've said it once and i'll say it again: there's no 'god ki', only ki control.
It can't be sensed because it involves complete ki control, not allowing to leak.
The ritual worked because goku was forced condensed ki of 6 saiyans into one and make it his own
You are reaching pretty far. You can't compare the old frieza force army, with the leftovers. Frieza even stated that the army was a joke of it's formal self. Krillin easily took care of them without even training for years. And you have no clue on what power level were the fighters that Master Roshi went up against, in the tournament of power. Hell one girl, with wings, forgot she could fly. Goku wanted Master Roshi and Krillin in the tournament, not because of strength, but because of experience. Next, you bring up frost. Yes, master Roshi fought Frost, and did nothing close to "standing toe to toe." Plus Frost told Hit that since he was now a criminal, he's always on the run and tired, that he's not as strong as he once was. Another note, Frost couldn't use his true power against Roshi, or Roshi would die. You are just reading way too much into this and grasping at straws. I'm not going to watch anymore of the video as I know it's just flak at show that you, apparently, don't grasp.
Ain’t no way it’s all just plot.
It's all just feats
@@BESTMOAD dragonball has been ridiculouswith its power ups that’s why it’s fallen off in my opinion lazy writing
@@BESTMOADIt's all incredibly inconsistent. As if Toriyama is too old to write this story anymore.
@jasontoddler7680 it's all feets if that's the case yamcha and gang shouldn't have been running the fade of the ginyu force that recently was dawg walking vegeta. You wana talk about inconsistencies lets talk about tien in just months time being able to hold off somone who's strong enough to slap somone who can slap the somone that can slap somone who was strong enough to slap friza who can slap the frieza full power on namek Crazy power jumps talk about gokus crazy zenkai aspull power jump during the frieza saga and this is all in the "golden era of dragonball" it's the fact that people Clown super for bad scaling but yall are too young too forget that fans of dragonball have been complaining about obserd scaling before the android saga lol. So don't go saying oohhh supers scaling is terrible too bad it's not like the golden age of z when our generation who watched z was hearing the same thing from people who was nostalgia blind by og dragonball
@CydonianKnights11 and yes, in YOUR opinion, dragonball has never fallen off. If super was so trash, why was it THE ONLY anime to actually break the internet (crashing multiple premium anime streaming services, including bootleg ones on Chrome) you always hear somone now saying an amime "has broken the internet" but none have actually done that like super did not evan the peek hipe of attack on titan demon slayer and one piece was able to do it. Explain to me why over the span of 1 year super made over 20 reaction channels that I saw was like at 4 to 20k subs explode in popularity to like 1 to 10 million subscribers over one ark Explain to me why thousands of videos not evan 3 months after supers end erupted with WHEN IS SUPER RETURNING tweets of people desperately asking for supers return people all over craving for more super just months after 1 year later thousands more videos from the bigest to smallest anime community channels complaining that super hasn't returned first movie coming out related to dragonball super breaking records these arnt sighns of an anime falling it's sighns that people desperately want more people should learn what falling off and disliking means and know the difrents
I see people saying certain youtubers have fallen off ..... yet there are still getting 900k to 10 million views a video plus still getting sponsors that seem to think they are worth the advertisement and their channel still grossing them enough money to pay our and our family yearly rents combined dragonball hasn't fell off its just waiting to take the spotlight like it literally does every time it returns I saw no other reaction channels reacting to any other animes airing live at the same time as dragonball it was super alone that put a lot of channels on to anime episodes reactions and stuff
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Every character scales to goku and vegeta just simply because the wiriting is well just dragon ball writing.
First off they don't scale to goku and vegeta .... I hate when idiots don't know how to scale roshi is most likely on the level of the ssjblue in the 6vs7 ark not actually goku rn
@@BESTMOAD exactly my point tho lmao? Only reason he is blue level is bc his power scaled to what new enemies goku and vegeta have and how strong they have gotten? It's simply to make them relevant with no little to no explanation
you know how he got that strong?
Watching aerobics everyday, with the door locked.
Master roshi been training in front of our eyes all these years and you all can't see it.
Roshi probably achieved ultra instinct through honing his instincts on brazzers xDDD
From the thumbnail, in my memory it was Toppo that Roshi was fighting. I must have completely tuned out how bad the scaling was back when it aired 😂😂 They should’ve made an episode of Roshi, Kaio-Sama, and old Kaioshin training in the afterlife and doing some peeping after it 😂
Shoutout to the people here who were a part of the editing stream. Perhaps
Well yeah he has pseudo ultra instinct. and he is the reason why goku got most of his techniques and stuff he should atleast be as strong as ssj3 goku
The power level of Super Saiyan states are relative since they are simply power multipliers. SSJ3 multiplies base Goku’s power by 400 times. I don’t think Roshi is even as strong as base Goku, so he can never be as strong as SSJ3 Goku.
Bro stfu up he not even stronger than krillin let alone ssj3 learn he could not even handle moro henchmen that base goku one shoot but he ssj3 level give me a break lol
I think it was more just his knowledge, wisdom, and experience which gave the illusion of him being much stronger than he actually is.
Stream hard, sleep hard
Yes he is. However, he can only do it briefly. That said, there is nothing stopping him from learning Ultra Instinct. And it wouldn't surprise me if he could apply that same ability to whatever ki control he uses to compensate for his lack of raw power to such an extreme degree. And use that to build upon it much further. Master Roshi is proof that all the other human fighters in Dragon Ball Z were barking up the wrong tree in trying to grow stronger when they should have focused more on control, skill, and spirit. He is proof of humanity's innate ability that humans can do.
No matter how skilled & powerful Goku & the others become, they still refer to Roshi as "Master".
Think about it.
Everyone gangsta until you realize its not Frieza or Gohan with the biggest potential 💀
Going by this bs logic
Yamcha was able to tank surrounding of beerus and champa and still was able to move to goal whipe even goku and vegeta needed defense against their clash despite being already weakened by cheap shots by other team
He was also able to flicker awy beerus who tanked ssj 3 kamehameha straight on at that point 💀
Huh?
Roshi is a few hundred years old, of course he has a lot of insane hidden techniques and he mastered the technique that killed his master that being the evil containment wave.
I like to imagine he actually didn’t do any secret training he was just always that strong and didn’t feel like fighting
So just let cell and buu destroy the world when he could not have only helped, but wiped the floor with them? Him always being that strong is a ridiculous thought.
@@medfibezk8745 yes
@@dainiusvysniauskas2049 yes
If that's true future trunks wouldn't "exist"
@@demoncampbell84 yes
Let’s just say he build different 👍🏻
wasn't frost weaker because he's been on the run from the law, I thought they mentioned that.
I think hit said his survival skills have improved or something to the point his movments were a bit sharper
That was a lie. In contrast Hit and Champa say he actually got stronger from running around. He simply lied in the TOP to make others drop their guard.
@@universalspaceexpeditioner8259 Not drop their guard. To make them use less powerful attacks and suppress their power because of the worry of killing him.
@@gamewithadam7235 true
He also lacks the talent of Frieza
I seen the long hours you put in for this video💯💯🙌🏾Dedication
To be fair, it wasn't that Roshi was at that power level or speed. His opponents were under the stipulation that they couldn't kill Roshi. That forced them to lower their speed and power to his level. All this showed was that, given the same power level, Roshi was the far superior fighter. It in no way means he was anywhere near their power level, as directly stated in the manga itself and in this video at 0:08. So many people don't get that.
In the tournament of power, one of the rules was you couldn't kill anyone. Roshi being so weak would force everyone to hold back or be disqualified. Jiren understood this. Roshi going for Jiren was great writing. The wise old man, giving his all, up against the strongest, knowing if he was killed his universe would win.
Early great stream
dbs power levels was so random and i love it
Listening to that, I feel like you're gaslinting yourselves thinking that dbs powerscaling make any sense at all. It does not. That's not a big deal, we can enjoy something even if there is some (or a lot) of plot holes or bullshit. You don't have to make it seems like it was all planed by toyotaro or toei animation.
Toryama is a genius who can write freely as he goes and somehow, his story made sense, but the same cannot be said for the exects at toei.
No matter how people try to justify this, the whole DBS franchise and its' Power-scale is just absolute BS. Toyotarou literally messed up the OG drawing in the manga which Akira Toriyama passed down and Toei planned on catering this Super franchise to a newer and younger audience with cartoonish and stick-figure artstyle and poor animation with censorship.
They just forgot that the whole DB fanbase is not young anymore.
Some concepts of plots were decent like Black Goku and Moro Arc but it was poorly executed .
Before anyone tries to make sense of any argument, just go back to the 90s DBZ or even DB and just watch few glimpses of the episodes again.
They just ruined what made Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball.
Roshi is a witch!! So is his, sister...? Huh.
I’m convinced that he’s actually cheating, like in that one filler episode with the plants that give him his, immortality? Maybe, he’s only strong because he’s secretly siphoning energy from all his students. Just a crazy idea, like the idea that ROSHI CAN BE THAT STRONG IN SUPER!!!
I think the explanation is far simpler: Roshi, in the background at some point, found the dragonballs and wished that his power and strength consistently kept level with the strongest fighters. He just didn't tell any one he did this.
That is a genius wish!!!😮
However, would Shenron have the kind of power to grant this sort of wish? This is before Piccolo
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just appreciate the show for what it is, a fighting anime. over analysing every detail and getting bent on power levels is not what it’s about. it’s a show, it’s a drawing, not the end of the world.
I like to think Roshi started training again after trunks warned of the android attack. Having a few years to train in secret just in case. He also kept telling Goku and krillin to never stop training, that they have to maintain their training as much as possible. Roshi being retired, just means he does not teach officially anymore, but still instructs and could easily have been training for a while. He is just mostly a gag character so up until the tournament of power, dragon ball never bothered giving him an on screen training ark.
Most of his dodging and attacks could be attributed to the fact he is a martial arts master and utilizes his knowledge and skills of all the fights he has seen and how many people he had dealt with in his past. Jiren for example is a bit of a brawler, he just has immense speed and strength and defense, which allows him to out pace everyone else. But Roshi uses skill to make up for his lack of speed and defense, using his enemy’s strength against them and doing circles around them. Of course he clearly has power to back up these skills, skill alone won’t mean crap. If you are not fast enough to see your enemy attack, then you can not counter them.
I am not upset at Roshi being strong, I’ve wanted him to have a bigger purpose as Goku’s master, rather than JUST being a pervert who occasionally gives advice, but someone with useful skills and can back up his title of master.
This Would Explain How He Trained Goku Without Dying
Ight, now hear me out...
Roshi just built different
FACTS
Goku: How did you become THIS powerful?
Roshi: I stopped smoking.
Gohan: You mean that EVERYTHING we went through, EVERY humiliation and death we suffered could have been prevented by you... not smoking?
Roshi: Yep. If I knew how much tobacco was holding me back, I never would have started.
Bulma: Huh, I wonder how powerful I can become. *tosses pack in the trash*
5 years later....
Frieza Black: PLEASE! PLEASE HAVE MERCY, I BEG YOU!
Bulma: [demonic voice] NO MERCY FOR THE WEAK!
And that, ladys and gentlemen, is how you write a fighting series. Not by rigidly measuring everyones powers with numbers and then generating a huge inflation whenever you want to power up a character but rather by simplying allowing weak characters to have a chance against stronger opponents by strategezing and using thoughtful techniques.
By giving a legit reason why these weak characters can fight in the first place right?
@@QaamansLandyep, because doesn't matter how much you strategize, if your opponent moves 40000 times faster than you, you gonna get kicked in the balls and lose
Y'all need to watch Roshi's tournament fights in DB again. His transformation ability vastly changes his power/speed. He has the inner monolog trying to decide how much to use im his fights in the tournaments. When bulma scoutered him, that was his most suppressed form. Especially if he was wearing one of his weighted shells.
When we first see him transform and blowup the mountain, he says that usimg that form drains him, yet in the tournament he is able to blow up the moon, and keep going. It syands to reason that Roshi has worked to perfect his transformation like Goku and Gohan did to prefect SS1 to not drain energy.
Because DBS is a joke, pure and simple.
The power scaling is
master roshi is the embodiment of "never too late ",let's take exemple from him yall, we can do this
Bro just stop
What?
@@QaamansLandwhen people want to deny something but have no evidence they just insult 😂
@@QaamansLandI've been saying characters like roshi krillan and yamcha has been multiversal for quite a while. Also remember roshi yamcha krillan and the z fighters have trained after the top so there EVAN STRONGER in the moro ark and than take the time jump to the super hero ark can't imagine how strong krillan is like lot of these animes arnt touching dragonballs humans
@@BESTMOAD Look how weak Roshi was compared to Krillin, Yamcha and the others though.
@@QaamansLand honestly I like that idea tho they still have him strong and not abandon him but let's his students shine I really wanna see Yamcha get much more spotlight they have made him the joke for too long. Imagine he goes on a huge training ark and discovers a new wolf move or something.... I'm just a huge yamcha fan been a strong supporter of since before he got destroyed by tien and even after. People shii on him for dying to a sybaman but forget that he actually beatem fair and squar just got caught off gaurd
Roshi using the dragonballs to power up would make this make sense
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Ayyeeee, he liked my comment 🤙🏾
I’m glad he got stronger, wish they did the same with the other characters too.
Nowadays everyone just stays around to just get bodied.
Also side note Roshi was already tired/weakened before taking on Frost too, basically collapsing/almost dying from eliminating Ganos.
roshi is always chilling on the beach because he just got back from re-upping in the forest of terrors
if this is old man roshi, imagine prime roshi
It’s likely that Roshi has always been holding back and training in secret. It’s also possible that Roshi understands that 1. This is Goku’s journey and 2. Saving the day whenever things got tough would have denied Goku the growth he needed in his quest to fight the strongest.
Freaking love old man strength! Was the best plot of the new history!
man this went from extremely impressive to kinda bullshit
like, on one hand i love that roshi is strong...on the other hand, i wish it was other like Yamcha, Tien, Chaitzou or Krillen...dang it
What did you think of the video
The live edit turned out pretty good. U should do more
Roshi the real gangsta
When you think about the whole Roshi being controlled bit when Goku went to get Tien to join the team, Goku said "Thats some awesome energy, so what you've just been keeping that power hidden from us this whole time." so I'm guessing Roshi has been holding back on the Z-fighters all this time.
once you understand that each of the chars can be just as power as goku if the over come the char development flaws that each of them have that is holding them back you will understand in roshi case dragon ball is trying to teach you about the power of seamen retention and discipline
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That relatable moment when you can't fly but you can tank hits from Jiren.
My favorite thing to do in the budokai games was beat enemies with characters who shouldn’t have been able to win. I’ll never forget Roshi beating the crap out of Broly.
Master Roshi has been training a lot and he also has been working on the ultra instinct technique....well, his form of it. You can see how he has put a lot of work into it when he faces Jiren in the manga. Hes dodging almaot everything, albeit, jiren wasnt going. 100% but it is still an incredible job.
I am waiting for Krillin to be the only human capable of Kaioken x100. Goku is a saiyan so he shouldnt be able to go over x20. Krillin is a human so he can go max with it.
Excellent video. It still amazes me though that people in 2023 haven't realized this yet. The way the story goes, in 10 years in canon everyone will be relative to Goku, and this includes Pan, Bulla, Roshi, Chaotzu.
I'm glad that my 2nd favorite DB character has become OP🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
As a abridged version of the Prince of Saiyans once said "Power Levels are bullshit!"
DBZA Vegeta: "Power levels are bullshit!"
I really want to see Yamcha do a fight. I feel like something DB has been lacking is an early Krillin type character: A character objectively weaker than most fighters, yet wins fights due to his tactics and strategies.
Let’s say he was in the tournament of power. How cool would it be if he faces an opponent and sees he’s no match in terms of strength and endurance, and gets pushed to the edge of the arena. Then, Yamcha reveals it was a feint and dashes behind the opponent to knock them off was an objectively weaker Ki Blast.
Jiren never kills his opponent. Even You can fight jiren and not get knocked out if he respects you.
My boy Roshi trained using that No Nut November method before the Tournament of Power and it gave him a power level rivaling the gods.
Roshi stopped training because he wanted the next generation to step up. As a human who is a few hundred years old. He has knowledge and stills on how to increase his power.
Here is how I see it. Once a character reaches a high level power, that techique for increasing ones power is know. Those who are more skilled are now able to improve power and ability. Perhaps not to the level of the person who is the strongest at that time but at least far above them. In the end, simply by lving among strong people , the weaker z figgters become stronger.
problem is... he's not anywhere near that strong. The tournament of power had specific rules that you couldn't kill your opponent, so many teams brought weaker allies to throw off the competition. In the original dragonball, goku was shown to be so strong that just tapping someone caused enough force to knock them off balance if not worse. The Mafuba was a technique that originally consumed so much energy that it would kill the person to use it, but it could be used by any martial artist able to manipulate ki to the extent that they could cause physical damage at a distance. Thing is though, it was a technique. It's like Krillin's Destructo disc. An opponent that knows how to counter it can do so immediately or in krillin's case, simply overpower it. In master Roshi's case, the technique is foolproof that unless you have experienced it to know how to counter it, the amount of power the person has doesn't matter because it transforms their body and ki into another state able to be compressed within any container.