He was never stated to have surpassed him nor was it implied, I've been trying to tell people this for a while. Beerus was simply impressed by a technique he could not achieve.
@@donaldtrumplover2254the guide books (that are cannon to both anime and manga) stated jiren 100% is stronger then the gods (plural) of destruction. And same with ui goku before mui. So no.
The real reason beerus is still so strong is because the series has long since been written into a corner where they can't possibly introduce any more successively "stronger" characters. Which means their existing strongest characters need to be moving goalposts because the series doesn't have a planned ending. One of the reasons for this is dragonball (and the fandom)'s multiplicative power scaling - which has never made sense but has also never had a relavant impact on the story as a whole. BOTG was supposed to be a one off not a complete revival of the series so leaving off with a universe deleting character chilling about would have been ok but now he has to sit around and watch characters continue to get successively "multiple" times stronger without somehow becoming irrelevant. Its just bad writing but it was established 30 years and the Fandom loves it so much that they don't get rid of it
Finally someone who understands it's a writing problem. Every meat rider here keeps coming up with the most absurd explanations imaginable when the only truth is that dragon Ball has never and will never be able to write proper power scaling
@@erubin100 On the contrary. The Android saga has pretty decent power scaling, with every jump in power having proper build up. The Frieza Saga is objectively the absolute worst once it comes to power scaling, as the presence of actual power levels make the absurd jumps quantifiable. Goku goes from a power level of 90,000 when arriving on Namek to 3 million with a single zenkai boost. No other Z arc has such garbage scaling
To be fair, passing Zenos fighting power shouldn't be that hard considering he cant keep up with how fast the gods move, he just has an absurd ability that erases matter to a point it doesnt even have energy left
Beerus is indeed a god of destruction. But he doesn’t just destroy physical objects; he also destroys the hopes and dreams people have of Goku and Vegeta surpassing him.
@@killermojo1515 Oh yes, we’re just supposed to hate him forever even though this dude dropped some of the best powerscaling content for almost a decade. People make mistakes, learn, and grow.
Nothing retconned. In the manga Beerus has always been stronger than Goku and Vegeta. This has been a consistent fact in the manga since it began. Peole only get confused because they think BS guidebooks and promotional material takes precedence over Toyotarou/Toriyama's direct manga , which just ins't true🤣
@@jantheking7028And Toriyama is on record saying that he had no plans on making Goku and Vegeta surpass Beerus. I don't know why or how people got it in their heads that they surpassed him when we've literally never seen him fight seriously. When they were getting dogwalked by Gas Beerus was about to step in but called to do something else.
i think Zeno is secretly buffing up Beerus each time someone comes close to his power. His title his THE God of Destruction. Not a God of Destruction. He isn't meant to have a true equal in terms of fighting power level from his universe. It also helps said universe overall mortal power Level increase. So it kills two birds with one stone. Helps maintain the cosmic hierarchy Raises the power level of the universe
@@caralho5237like all dragon ball fans, he made up his own explanation (cope) to cover for the lackluster writing. This has been a tradition since Toriyama created the series.
@@noelvalenzarro Jiren was hinted to be stronger by having bested him in an arm wrestle, but Beerus is stronger than every other GOD im pretty sure by a very large margin, the exception possibly being the god Jiren bested, who was showed to not be trying and was playing dead/unconscious. It wouldn't be at all surprising if he was revealed to be hiding his strength and is the closest to beerus' strength and simply did a similar thing with Jiren, not to mention arm wrestling which i believe was the thign he lost in is not very important or indicative of power.
The mere concept of "tone armour" is hilarius, the fact that the character gets to choose how the story he is in is written is absolutely perfect for Beerus
@@Goatama1 you’re the only one that made a crazy claim give me a universal and above feat that saitama has besides wanking statements that don’t exist & it’s even shown that he gets stronger meaning he was at a cap before💀.
Exactly this, I like to think he saw Goku and Vegeta improving rapidly and has been training enough to stay waaaay ahead of them, too many fans act like it’s only Goku and Vegeta that get stronger
plus you account for the fact that for the last aaaages he's been asleep and just waking up here and there to destroy a thing or two and then sleep again, and suddenly there is another reason that adds to this, he probably got sloppy compared to whatever peak he was once at, kinda like gohan every arc. He's seeming to get so much stronger so fast because he isn't actually having to explore any new ground at all, because he's been there and done it all before, so his power can just kinda skyrocket, plus then momentum on his side to grow further still once he does start to surpass himself, again much like gohan has been shown to - going from weak asf to beast for example so fast, if beerus is in the middle of doing that and it's just drawn out because of his sheer age and the power acrued over that time that he can kinda just grow at this rate for ages without breaking sweat or really being at risk of slowing down, then suddenly it all makes even more sense.
@@sirfrancis8732 By "the writers" you mean Toyotaro? Every other super writer has gone with Goku being stronger with Ultra Instinct, but the manga is the only place where Goku can use Ultra Instinct freely. So functionally, Goku is still weaker than Beerus in all Super material. Goku just got a brief taste of the kind of power he will need to defeat Beerus in the anime.
Yea wait a second. Every single being in dragonball it seems can activate an aura and unleash more power. Why wouldnt beerus have a transformation or go full power?
@baybjamess maybe, but have we ever really seen a GoD go full out? In the manga we did, and in the movies we see beerus aura. So he does have one and can pull out more power, but since the fight was kinda retconned, we don't know for sure. I think beerus can activate full power and gain an aura because we have seen it before, but I think he just doesn't need it. Like goku fighting the robbers at the beginning of super, whooping ass without going full out
@@nakdu3936 yeah but again I don’t think they’re gunna transform I think that’s just apart of being a god and they’re capable of holding back their aura can literally erase things from existence already so I mean I don’t think they’re hiding anything they’re just not swinging hard enough lol we’ve seen this with toppo and mentioned with jiren and goku you become a god you pretty much have these techniques mastered ultra instinct isn’t even a form it’s a technique I get his hair changes but literally beerus has it and he doesn’t turn silver
Why Is Beerus STILL So Strong? Summary: He always took it easy against Goku and Vegeta (He never took it seriously, not even against the other Gods of Destruction, he only used a little of Ultra Instinct, but obviously he fought seriously).
He took it serious don’t do that bro .. the grand priest said whoever is holding back will get erased and the grand priest isn’t a regular entity so he had no reason to hold back let’s stop acting like beerus is anomaly yes he’s very powerful but let’s stop acting like he’s unbeatable.
Okay, hot take: If Goku/Vegeta fought Beerus at full power, they'd still lose, but not before dealing some gnarly damage. With Black Frieza, I'd say he'd be slightly below, but close to Beerus' level (Don't go crying about how Beerus dogwalks everyone and they mama, this is just a personal opinion of mine)
In an interview Toriyama did in 2016 he literally stated that he had no plans for Goku and Vegeta to surpass either Beerus or Whis. Why do so many fans ignore this?
@@darknessemblemflame3036 It doesn't matter how long ago it was, he has literally told us his view on the matter. Also in the manga Toriyama has never retconned Beerus power at any point but like Seth pointed out the Toei writers pretty much retconned the scaling not Toriyama.
@@Chcksterthey changed that, since black frieza who one shotted tui goku and ue vegeta was stated to only be close to God level, it doesn't make sense
@@Chckster End of Z doesn't say Goku is stronger than a god and the TOP is statement is anime not manga. In the manga Beerus has never been surpassed by Goku at any point of the story.
I really like the idea of beerus sealing old kai in order to secure his own life while he slept. It's pretty in character for beerus to make sure hes chillin and not really care ab how that would effect the rest of the universe which is why uni7 has such a low score.
but that Kaio Shin wasn't really old, he looks old because an old witch use his potara and fusion with him changing his looks, just how the current Kaio Shin tooks Kibito appearance after their fusion
4:12 I could've sworn in the anime Beerus told us the reason that he sealed the kai into the sword was to prevent him from dying and in turn killing beerus since it would have been that much easier to kill him that way instead of facing him head on.
Master piece in literature no. Master piece in entertainment I could see but you can expect dragon ball fans to criticize properly it's too much for them
@@rushpatriot2866Yes master piece in literature. 1. Did you not watch the video? 2. Dragon ball Is more then constant Fighting for whatever reasons where chad aliens duke it out for whatever reasons. Dragon Ball’s writing is better then most shonen animes including writing like AOT and more. Dragon ball is a master in literature along side its characters complimenting it
You even mesed up then/than. Dragons balls is not even mid "literature". Even power levels arent explained that much; people are just as strong as the plot demands without much explanation. Its just a dumb anime time killer. @@xHollow.
@@rude_wredne Then your brain is too smooth to understand the story. Db is one of the only shonen that actually has unique themes instead of the usual good to bad or boring ass slavery and common shit. It requires you to have a bit of cultural and buddhist knowledge
Having a "villain" that stays stronger, no matter what happens, is a welcome change. Can't just outscale him by force alone. No training, no rage, no screaming can surpass him. Any defeat must be other means but raw power.
It would be if he was a villain. He's more like a being of chaos with no alignment. Ironically being more sided to Earth and its mortals for food. But yeah he's literally the barrier that never stops growing.
Exactly i agree bruh let goku train for at least a thousand years or so to reach his lv beerus been around for over millions of years training with whis man
I think Black Frieza will be the one to ultimately kill Beerus, then Goku & Vegeta (maybe as a fusion), will finally work together perfectly as Whis has tried to teach them & destroy Frieza for good.
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. I enjoyed it. I wonder if Beerus is bluffing about being stonger than the Saiyan duo now. We might see soon!
0:01 came here to quickly answer the question since it apparently takes 38 mins to he is the strongest god of destruction there is no information on why he is such but there is canon proof in the form of the manga where all the gods fought he he came out on top and many do believe he was still holding back look at wise he’s the strongest angle next to his father who serves the Oni King a video isn’t needed to explain just watch the show fr they say this
I think the entire point of the video went over your head and that's putting it lightly. Obviously anyone could just Google that, the point of the video is to explain his feats, all statements/evidence to support that, and to debunk any misconceptions.
I genuinely hope he takes a turn for the worse and we don’t hear from him again until a news story pops up saying he killed himself. Now that, I’ll be glad to see
becouse you know the result. beerus one shots them. he was only toying with goku in there fight becouse he whanted to see a super sayin god. who turned out not to be a anything for him other then some amusment. later leanring destoyer gods damaging earth is banned so he was never going to destory it.
I think it’s funny the only god of destruction that rivals beerus was quitella. The cat and mouse rivalry is even better when you pointed out that Quitela set him up to get jumped😂
Seth great video! Love how you scaled everything without power level numbers. I know its long and you had to cover a lot but SLOW DOWN haha. But amazing good job! Checking out the GT one next! Which I believe SSJ4 stomps SSBlue and SSJ4 Gogeta is the strongest ever.
Beerus has been training ever since Battle of Gods. That fight was what he needed to motivate himself. And it seems like he has limitless potential at a level even beyond Freiza and Gohan. I bet Beerus has been aware of the low mortal level of his universe for thousands of years. People forget that he’s one of the two top Gods in the universe. Everyone thinks he’s evil but that’s only because the Kai were afraid of him because he sealed away the old Kai. In reality Beerus has all kinds of motivation to improve the state of his universe. He sees the potential in these new saiyans and he’s been purposely pushing them to greater and greater heights.
The real question is. Why do people just assume beerus don’t train anymore or that whis just completely stopped training beerus . Training beerus is literally whis’s job . Beerus can literally go in the hyperbolic time chamber at anytime he wants and train there for how ever long he wants . Thats probably why he’s still stronger then goku and vegeta.
@@greeninja1396 o so we just going to act like off screen training ain’t a thing ok I see what y’all doing . But seriously whis is literally his trainer that’s the whole reason for whis being there .you really think whis really just going to completely stop training beerus .sht they don’t show most of the side characters training but we know they train . There’s no reason to think beerus doesn’t train . It’s never been stated that he don’t . And he literally has a trainer .so what are y’all smoking. It’s like people don’t actually think about sht . That’s the problem with a lot of different fans
@@anthonydavis-cw4cm it is. But they usually mention it. You’re just saying that “oh he actually trains offscreen all the time secretly instead of eating and sleeping” when not a single time his character shows he wants or needs to train. According to your logic goku is actually a Harvard graduate since he must of done it off screen apparently
@@greeninja1396 an no I’m not just saying oh he actually trains off screen. I’m just saying he probably dose. Key word probably. He literally has a trainer and literally have unlimited use to the hyperbolic time chamber because whis can just make it .beerus can literally get half of a year of training done while goku them is sleep for a couple hours . And beerus doesn’t seem like the type that would even care to tell people he be training . And to the goku thing that’s completely different ain’t no body going to think goku graduated bruh can barely read and the show itself points that out all the dame Time lol .
There is one way to make the old-old-old statement of Goku being a 6 to Beerus's 10 make sense, and that's to turn those numbers from percentages to tier. Sort of like Goku was in tier 6 and Beerus was in tier 10 of power, and the differences between tiers is just insanely, incomparably massive, differences that get even larger between each successive tier. Still, even then, given all the power jumps we've seen, its a stretch.
@@blackpow3rIndeed. Black Frieza being mid-to-high 9th tier (Full power Black Frieza that is) is a good estimate while the heroes are sort of wrestling their way into the upper end of 8th tier.
Honestly he didn't even do anything that bad outside of being an asshole which a lot people have been at some point in there life and he genuinely helped some of the people he did wrong as well not saying it makes it right but it wasn't some huge career ending thing people tried to make it there wasn't enough bad things for most people to even care past a couple weeks @@malaksyan64
@@GuyVick snap? What were you going to do? Write a very mean comment? Hahahaha I'm shaking in my boots. Alright I said nigga, I'm not black tho. What are you going to do?
"Beerus - that's why my power has no limits 🙂🔥(chapter 69)." Beerus is indeed a formidable character in the Dragon Ball series. His power seems to be linked to his desire for battle and his mastery over techniques like Hakai and Ultra Instinct. His thirst for battle seems to fuel his destructive potential, making him even more formidable as a fighter.
Beerus was cool way back but now he's just there. He'll say something cool aka repeat himself and the fandom will explode. Please just do something interesting with him. Have him fight Quitela, fight black Frieza, or all four of them go against in a battle. Kinda out on Super now. So many more better manga out there right now.
Seth finally. Now post a vs battle alr, also one of gokus final battles should be a rematch against beerus at least in the manga which would solidify goku>beerus and in the anime it will solidify goku>beerus but also upscale anime beerus which is what i think should happen imo at least
I want to say that beerus being weaker than boo 75 million years ago might not even be that bad considering how buu had the old kais absorbed who we know have energies that dwarfs the z fighters.
RIP, Toriyama.
Thank you for everything.
I’ve been waiting a Beerus video for a while thank you for making this banger
lmao
Beerus
Not as strong as gojo 💯💯💯
There are some comic book readers who say Batman has speed feats that surpass anything that DBZ/DBS has done
Beerus is literally so strong that even after Goku surpassed him, Beerus is still stronger.
w comment 😂
Ong
He was never stated to have surpassed him nor was it implied, I've been trying to tell people this for a while. Beerus was simply impressed by a technique he could not achieve.
@@donaldtrumplover2254the guide books (that are cannon to both anime and manga) stated jiren 100% is stronger then the gods (plural) of destruction. And same with ui goku before mui.
So no.
@@donaldtrumplover2254you gotta get out your bubble man. You've definitely been missing out...😅
Because he is Toriyama's cat and he probably wanted his cat to forever be the ultimate. That's cat dad love for you.
hahaha indeed
Korrin was based on his previous cat too
The second time I'll be okay with super OP characters.
@@_V.Va_Goku is a super Op character. For the reason that the fanbase cries if he isn't.
@@nicolasoliveira4903he is not in the scale of the verse
The real reason beerus is still so strong is because the series has long since been written into a corner where they can't possibly introduce any more successively "stronger" characters. Which means their existing strongest characters need to be moving goalposts because the series doesn't have a planned ending. One of the reasons for this is dragonball (and the fandom)'s multiplicative power scaling - which has never made sense but has also never had a relavant impact on the story as a whole. BOTG was supposed to be a one off not a complete revival of the series so leaving off with a universe deleting character chilling about would have been ok but now he has to sit around and watch characters continue to get successively "multiple" times stronger without somehow becoming irrelevant. Its just bad writing but it was established 30 years and the Fandom loves it so much that they don't get rid of it
Finally someone who understands it's a writing problem. Every meat rider here keeps coming up with the most absurd explanations imaginable when the only truth is that dragon Ball has never and will never be able to write proper power scaling
this is why some series just need to end. if you drag a story on too long, this kind of thing will inevitably happen.
@@baitreview TO BE FAIR, the power scaling was at least PALATABLE in the frieza saga. It was really the android saga onwards that things got bonkers.
@@erubin100 On the contrary. The Android saga has pretty decent power scaling, with every jump in power having proper build up.
The Frieza Saga is objectively the absolute worst once it comes to power scaling, as the presence of actual power levels make the absurd jumps quantifiable. Goku goes from a power level of 90,000 when arriving on Namek to 3 million with a single zenkai boost. No other Z arc has such garbage scaling
@baitreview DBZ powerscaling is weird when you think about Perfect Cell being less then 9x stronger then Frieza
They can literally say "OMG Goku has reached the power of Zeno" and the next chapter it just shows Beerus dominating Goku
Fax
😂😂😂
those beatings weren’t as bad as Seth's allegations
@@g_ninja Seth used the black flash to destroy those allegation
To be fair, passing Zenos fighting power shouldn't be that hard considering he cant keep up with how fast the gods move, he just has an absurd ability that erases matter to a point it doesnt even have energy left
Beerus is indeed a god of destruction. But he doesn’t just destroy physical objects; he also destroys the hopes and dreams people have of Goku and Vegeta surpassing him.
You do know the allegations on Seth?
@@killermojo1515 and?
@@killermojo1515 Oh yes, we’re just supposed to hate him forever even though this dude dropped some of the best powerscaling content for almost a decade. People make mistakes, learn, and grow.
@@TheDefiledShellPeople will repeat them again and Seth is one of them but yeah his content can be hella good and funny.
@@killermojo1515Yea but he still makes the best power scaling vids.
I got so lost that by the end i was just like, "Yeah, he's talking about DB alright"
His strength is the ability to retcon any previous material to ensure he's still the strongest
Honestly that would be a cold feature of being a god. You’re always the strongest in the verse
@@artistaroundtheblock2047 a little benefit
Nothing retconned. In the manga Beerus has always been stronger than Goku and Vegeta. This has been a consistent fact in the manga since it began. Peole only get confused because they think BS guidebooks and promotional material takes precedence over Toyotarou/Toriyama's direct manga , which just ins't true🤣
True
@@jantheking7028And Toriyama is on record saying that he had no plans on making Goku and Vegeta surpass Beerus. I don't know why or how people got it in their heads that they surpassed him when we've literally never seen him fight seriously. When they were getting dogwalked by Gas Beerus was about to step in but called to do something else.
Everytime Beerus takes a nap , his power increases🤣
He is a cat, it makes perfect sense that's how he gains his power. He was asleep for so long.
Literal power nap
But still it wont be enough to defeat Saitama
@@Goatama1 lmao
@@Goatama1 Saitama has no feats backing that claim. Battle of God's Goku is still superior.
i think Zeno is secretly buffing up Beerus each time someone comes close to his power.
His title his THE God of Destruction. Not a God of Destruction. He isn't meant to have a true equal in terms of fighting power level from his universe.
It also helps said universe overall mortal power Level increase.
So it kills two birds with one stone.
Helps maintain the cosmic hierarchy
Raises the power level of the universe
But is not in character
Zeno or beerus aren't close or anything, zeno is not the type of characters who plot that kinda thing
Wasn’t Jiren stronger than his own god of destruction
Where did you pull that from
@@caralho5237like all dragon ball fans, he made up his own explanation (cope) to cover for the lackluster writing. This has been a tradition since Toriyama created the series.
@@noelvalenzarro Jiren was hinted to be stronger by having bested him in an arm wrestle, but Beerus is stronger than every other GOD im pretty sure by a very large margin, the exception possibly being the god Jiren bested, who was showed to not be trying and was playing dead/unconscious. It wouldn't be at all surprising if he was revealed to be hiding his strength and is the closest to beerus' strength and simply did a similar thing with Jiren, not to mention arm wrestling which i believe was the thign he lost in is not very important or indicative of power.
The mere concept of "tone armour" is hilarius, the fact that the character gets to choose how the story he is in is written is absolutely perfect for Beerus
I mean he is toriyama’s cat
Being stronger for 10 years straight is a wild thing
But Saitama is still stronger😂
@@Goatama1 goku been stronger then saitama since bro birth
@@Fuegoaries do you have a proof of your crazy claims?
@ndbshsshbsba fr lmao
@@Goatama1 you’re the only one that made a crazy claim give me a universal and above feat that saitama has besides wanking statements that don’t exist & it’s even shown that he gets stronger meaning he was at a cap before💀.
The easiest explanation would be that beerus has been secretly training to aboid being surpassed which is why the goalpost keeps moving
Exactly this, I like to think he saw Goku and Vegeta improving rapidly and has been training enough to stay waaaay ahead of them, too many fans act like it’s only Goku and Vegeta that get stronger
@@dienfhet5179 honestly makes sense
plus you account for the fact that for the last aaaages he's been asleep and just waking up here and there to destroy a thing or two and then sleep again, and suddenly there is another reason that adds to this, he probably got sloppy compared to whatever peak he was once at, kinda like gohan every arc. He's seeming to get so much stronger so fast because he isn't actually having to explore any new ground at all, because he's been there and done it all before, so his power can just kinda skyrocket, plus then momentum on his side to grow further still once he does start to surpass himself, again much like gohan has been shown to - going from weak asf to beast for example so fast, if beerus is in the middle of doing that and it's just drawn out because of his sheer age and the power acrued over that time that he can kinda just grow at this rate for ages without breaking sweat or really being at risk of slowing down, then suddenly it all makes even more sense.
Nah its just shit writing
He'd probably have Supreme Kai unleash his potential for the heck of it
I'm absolutely convinced that Beerus trains in secret when he says he's napping
I swear to god if they use this in the manga to explain Beerus being way stronger I'm gonna lose my mind
Honestly, if they showed us that then I wouldn't even be mad that he's gotten so strong but as it is now it's just asspulls from the writers
@@sirfrancis8732 By "the writers" you mean Toyotaro? Every other super writer has gone with Goku being stronger with Ultra Instinct, but the manga is the only place where Goku can use Ultra Instinct freely. So functionally, Goku is still weaker than Beerus in all Super material. Goku just got a brief taste of the kind of power he will need to defeat Beerus in the anime.
What if he trans while taking naps...
@@HappyBeezerStudios the ultimate life hack...
Never watched so much headcannon in a single vid like this before. Really polished
How is this headcannon
Wait until Beerus whips out the fact that this is just his base form, and he can actually use ultra ego as a transformation like Vegeta lmao
Yea wait a second. Every single being in dragonball it seems can activate an aura and unleash more power. Why wouldnt beerus have a transformation or go full power?
I thought the gods already used a version of that and that’s why they were so powerful hence toppos power boost
@baybjamess maybe, but have we ever really seen a GoD go full out? In the manga we did, and in the movies we see beerus aura. So he does have one and can pull out more power, but since the fight was kinda retconned, we don't know for sure. I think beerus can activate full power and gain an aura because we have seen it before, but I think he just doesn't need it. Like goku fighting the robbers at the beginning of super, whooping ass without going full out
@@nakdu3936 yeah but again I don’t think they’re gunna transform I think that’s just apart of being a god and they’re capable of holding back their aura can literally erase things from existence already so I mean I don’t think they’re hiding anything they’re just not swinging hard enough lol we’ve seen this with toppo and mentioned with jiren and goku you become a god you pretty much have these techniques mastered ultra instinct isn’t even a form it’s a technique I get his hair changes but literally beerus has it and he doesn’t turn silver
@@nakdu3936 and in manga we still don’t see any god go all out the fight with the other gods was literally just a spar before the tournament of power
We officially back at the goal post of beerus being as strong as he needs to be for the story 🤣
Sounds like Aizen and ywach 😂
He's the Superman of his universe
Goku solos idgaf what anyone says I’ll die on this hill
@@LuhZay3 then you'll die for nothing
@@justsomeguywithoutacleveru4060 I’m taking you with me
Why Is Beerus STILL So Strong?
Summary: He always took it easy against Goku and Vegeta
(He never took it seriously, not even against the other Gods of Destruction, he only used a little of Ultra Instinct, but obviously he fought seriously).
He took it serious don’t do that bro .. the grand priest said whoever is holding back will get erased and the grand priest isn’t a regular entity so he had no reason to hold back let’s stop acting like beerus is anomaly yes he’s very powerful but let’s stop acting like he’s unbeatable.
nah man beerus is not holding back when the god of destruction mini tournament happen. all of them are in full power.
@@apeshot93not full power but trying to
Okay, hot take:
If Goku/Vegeta fought Beerus at full power, they'd still lose, but not before dealing some gnarly damage.
With Black Frieza, I'd say he'd be slightly below, but close to Beerus' level
(Don't go crying about how Beerus dogwalks everyone and they mama, this is just a personal opinion of mine)
Toriyama/Toyotaro: Wanna see me give Beerus an asspull to make him stronger?.... Wanna see me do it again?
This is a camp franchise now deal with it 😎
😂😂😂😂😂
Goku fans foaming at the mouth at every mention of beerus being stronger💀
@@LuhZay3😂 lol fr
worst part is that they don't even give him an asspull, they just make him stronger for the sake of it 💀
Beerus is stronger than Goku as long as the plot needs him to be
Amen brother
@@Leontrophic682 I'm an Atheist 💀
@HelenaSan425 Then just like what Broly did to Vegeta, you're gonna get your ass handed to you.
Amen means "true" or commencing truth after saying something brother.
@@Heaven0854 oh, but still
Apology to him i guess
Beerus and Whis were such incredible additons to the story. They fit the universe so well and are such great characters overall.
In an interview Toriyama did in 2016 he literally stated that he had no plans for Goku and Vegeta to surpass either Beerus or Whis. Why do so many fans ignore this?
I mean it was in 2016- literally almost a decade ago- mind you Toriyama retconned his own scale
@@darknessemblemflame3036 It doesn't matter how long ago it was, he has literally told us his view on the matter. Also in the manga Toriyama has never retconned Beerus power at any point but like Seth pointed out the Toei writers pretty much retconned the scaling not Toriyama.
EOZ and TOP. Both of these say Goku is the strongest or stronger than a GOD
@@Chcksterthey changed that, since black frieza who one shotted tui goku and ue vegeta was stated to only be close to God level, it doesn't make sense
@@Chckster End of Z doesn't say Goku is stronger than a god and the TOP is statement is anime not manga. In the manga Beerus has never been surpassed by Goku at any point of the story.
I really like the idea of beerus sealing old kai in order to secure his own life while he slept. It's pretty in character for beerus to make sure hes chillin and not really care ab how that would effect the rest of the universe which is why uni7 has such a low score.
but that Kaio Shin wasn't really old, he looks old because an old witch use his potara and fusion with him changing his looks, just how the current Kaio Shin tooks Kibito appearance after their fusion
4:12 I could've sworn in the anime Beerus told us the reason that he sealed the kai into the sword was to prevent him from dying and in turn killing beerus since it would have been that much easier to kill him that way instead of facing him head on.
I respect how thorough you are
Thanks for this video. It's entertaining, informative, accurate, and maybe the biggest news flash alot of people need.
I like the way it starts with Yu GI oh master duel music. Good choice brother! ❤
R.I.P Akira Toriyama you will never be forgotten ❤❤❤❤❤❤
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R.I.P Akira Toriyama . Thank you for giving us access to a masterpiece of literature
Master piece in literature no. Master piece in entertainment I could see but you can expect dragon ball fans to criticize properly it's too much for them
@@rushpatriot2866Yes master piece in literature.
1. Did you not watch the video?
2. Dragon ball Is more then constant Fighting for whatever reasons where chad aliens duke it out for whatever reasons.
Dragon Ball’s writing is better then most shonen animes including writing like AOT and more. Dragon ball is a master in literature along side its characters complimenting it
You even mesed up then/than. Dragons balls is not even mid "literature". Even power levels arent explained that much; people are just as strong as the plot demands without much explanation. Its just a dumb anime time killer. @@xHollow.
@@rude_wredne Then your brain is too smooth to understand the story. Db is one of the only shonen that actually has unique themes instead of the usual good to bad or boring ass slavery and common shit. It requires you to have a bit of cultural and buddhist knowledge
@@saynboi6985 lmao, it's dumb anime where characters can destroy planets by punching it. Gtfo
Having a "villain" that stays stronger, no matter what happens, is a welcome change. Can't just outscale him by force alone. No training, no rage, no screaming can surpass him. Any defeat must be other means but raw power.
Your in the wrong anime/manga if that's what your looking for lol
It would be if he was a villain.
He's more like a being of chaos with no alignment. Ironically being more sided to Earth and its mortals for food. But yeah he's literally the barrier that never stops growing.
Exactly i agree bruh let goku train for at least a thousand years or so to reach his lv beerus been around for over millions of years training with whis man
I think Black Frieza will be the one to ultimately kill Beerus, then Goku & Vegeta (maybe as a fusion), will finally work together perfectly as Whis has tried to teach them & destroy Frieza for good.
It would make sense because when fighting goku and vegeta most of the time hes only criticising there strategy, never there power
R.I.P Akira you'll always be the goat of anime
Remember really early on when BoG was releasing, that some called him "Bills"? Good times.
I'm sure to this day there are probably a few group of people that STILL calls him Bills
Lol buffalo bills
In portuguese he was adapted to bills and its still called lile that to this day
@@machine1223 In the spanish dub he's still called Beerus
I remember that.
thank you seth this video changed my life
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Huh 😂😂
corny clown
Yeaah we need some explaining there buddy
Top tier character, perspective on him and excellent editing as always!
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. I enjoyed it. I wonder if Beerus is bluffing about being stonger than the Saiyan duo now. We might see soon!
Despite Beerus being a goalpost, he is easily the best character to be added in Super
Watching this after the passing of the goat definitely hits different
excellent work. Honestly your attention to detail is amazing
Nice Duel Links and Master Duel music in the background
FINALLY IVE BEEN WAITING ON A NEW VIDEO 😭🤌
because he is, seth deletes comments stating the truth@@sugardady1019
blud had wait till things calmed before making a comeback
0:01 came here to quickly answer the question since it apparently takes 38 mins to he is the strongest god of destruction there is no information on why he is such but there is canon proof in the form of the manga where all the gods fought he he came out on top and many do believe he was still holding back look at wise he’s the strongest angle next to his father who serves the Oni King a video isn’t needed to explain just watch the show fr they say this
I think the entire point of the video went over your head and that's putting it lightly. Obviously anyone could just Google that, the point of the video is to explain his feats, all statements/evidence to support that, and to debunk any misconceptions.
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Someone can't watch a 38 min video
@@tomoyukisaito5275not if it’s stupid 😂 why give someone money for nothing think on that it’s like the new borderlands movie
Your grammar fried my brain
Glad to see you're doing better now, buddy.
I genuinely hope he takes a turn for the worse and we don’t hear from him again until a news story pops up saying he killed himself. Now that, I’ll be glad to see
i mean he was the bud guy you should be saying this to the victim but everyone needs a second chance I guess
@@animoments8969did he go to trial? or get arrested? no its just twitter bullshit? then its not real
@@Slvl710 he admitted to it lol
your acting like you know shit but you dont LMAO, he literally admitted to it@@Slvl710
*Crazy how Beerus has been around 10 years without fighting much*
becouse you know the result. beerus one shots them. he was only toying with goku in there fight becouse he whanted to see a super sayin god. who turned out not to be a anything for him other then some amusment. later leanring destoyer gods damaging earth is banned so he was never going to destory it.
@@gogereaver349when was this ? He was never allowed to destroy planet earth
@@thaddeusgreen-kg7ww late in super its said he was banned from doing so by zeno.
@@gogereaver349what episode?
@@gogereaver349 cap
Hello again SethTheChildToucher
That’s why his the best
@@unknownbannana8241 NAHHHH
Huhh?!?!
@@NoPhlyZone20 he wants a cupcake
RIP Akira Toriyama 😔
I think it’s funny the only god of destruction that rivals beerus was quitella. The cat and mouse rivalry is even better when you pointed out that Quitela set him up to get jumped😂
Wow didn't know I still had it in me to watch a 38 minute video at once good video
Beerus:before creation comes ruin
Kai’s: without creation there isnt destruction
Great video, Seth. Been waiting for a new one.
Awesome video Seth!
As a Beerus fan I've been eating for 10 years straight
Editing in this video goes crazy
Seth great video! Love how you scaled everything without power level numbers. I know its long and you had to cover a lot but SLOW DOWN haha. But amazing good job! Checking out the GT one next! Which I believe SSJ4 stomps SSBlue and SSJ4 Gogeta is the strongest ever.
I'm calling it now, it's those damn naps that are giving him these boosts.
Let's go seth!! Can't wait for you to comeback to the naruto scene aswell! Keep up the good work man.
Shit was fire bro keep grinding we all supporting 🖤🔥🔥
Beerus has been training ever since Battle of Gods. That fight was what he needed to motivate himself. And it seems like he has limitless potential at a level even beyond Freiza and Gohan.
I bet Beerus has been aware of the low mortal level of his universe for thousands of years. People forget that he’s one of the two top Gods in the universe. Everyone thinks he’s evil but that’s only because the Kai were afraid of him because he sealed away the old Kai. In reality Beerus has all kinds of motivation to improve the state of his universe. He sees the potential in these new saiyans and he’s been purposely pushing them to greater and greater heights.
Why didn’t he kill any of the people he should have
He training is not implied in the whole manga
Not a mention or anything
So that's just a theory
w vid, bro the editing in this video is asylum crazy
That master duel background is so good lmao
Been starving for some big ass numbers from RUclips man
SETH THE PROGRAMMER POST DAY LETS GOOOOO!!!! 🔥🔥🔥
It's just seth now, it's like when kobe changed his jersey number after he SA'd that woman.
This was essentially my comment. Hes trying to recover from the loss @@6tiple6ix6afia
The real question is. Why do people just assume beerus don’t train anymore or that whis just completely stopped training beerus . Training beerus is literally whis’s job . Beerus can literally go in the hyperbolic time chamber at anytime he wants and train there for how ever long he wants . Thats probably why he’s still stronger then goku and vegeta.
Because he’s literally never ever been shown to train or any kind of training ever?
@@greeninja1396 o so we just going to act like off screen training ain’t a thing ok I see what y’all doing . But seriously whis is literally his trainer that’s the whole reason for whis being there .you really think whis really just going to completely stop training beerus .sht they don’t show most of the side characters training but we know they train . There’s no reason to think beerus doesn’t train . It’s never been stated that he don’t . And he literally has a trainer .so what are y’all smoking. It’s like people don’t actually think about sht . That’s the problem with a lot of different fans
@@anthonydavis-cw4cm it is. But they usually mention it. You’re just saying that “oh he actually trains offscreen all the time secretly instead of eating and sleeping” when not a single time his character shows he wants or needs to train. According to your logic goku is actually a Harvard graduate since he must of done it off screen apparently
@@greeninja1396 an no I’m not just saying oh he actually trains off screen. I’m just saying he probably dose. Key word probably. He literally has a trainer and literally have unlimited use to the hyperbolic time chamber because whis can just make it .beerus can literally get half of a year of training done while goku them is sleep for a couple hours . And beerus doesn’t seem like the type that would even care to tell people he be training . And to the goku thing that’s completely different ain’t no body going to think goku graduated bruh can barely read and the show itself points that out all the dame Time lol .
@@anthonydavis-cw4cm I guess that makes sense. And the goku graduating is a joke lol. Anyways you’re probably right about him training sometimes.
Dragon ball narrative: ok beerus we’re going to have beerus surpass you now
Beerus: ehhh I don’t feel like it
Seth coming in clutch with this awesome video glad you are doing well man thanks for the great uploads
Great video
I think beerus being so strong is leading up to something ultimately
Great video, Seth. The editing is as legendary as Broly from Dragon Ball Z.
You see, Seth, you're not dealing with the average Beerus anymore . . .
Your videos are really high quality and informative, this was really cool.
Good to know I'm not stupid for having no idea anymore about dragon ball power levels.
Love the Duel Links music you used.
Master Duel*
@@Clyde975 its duel links
@@chillvibes_Official 1:52 is straight up Master Duel.
There is one way to make the old-old-old statement of Goku being a 6 to Beerus's 10 make sense, and that's to turn those numbers from percentages to tier. Sort of like Goku was in tier 6 and Beerus was in tier 10 of power, and the differences between tiers is just insanely, incomparably massive, differences that get even larger between each successive tier. Still, even then, given all the power jumps we've seen, its a stretch.
Good explanation tbh
I like this. Goku/Vegeta/Broly/Gohan/Granolah are all probably at Tier 8 now along with Black Frieza who is like Tier 9 now. Beerus is Tier 10
@@blackpow3rIndeed. Black Frieza being mid-to-high 9th tier (Full power Black Frieza that is) is a good estimate while the heroes are sort of wrestling their way into the upper end of 8th tier.
bro posts and acts like nothing happened yea ok dude we didn’t forget
I did
@@DontrplytoMycomments don't tell me what to do
The most accurate scaler of dragon ball has returned
Even though Seth was confirmed as a "bad guy" I still respect his videos for how much effort he puts into them
@@malaksyan64 like they say, separate art from the artist
Honestly he didn't even do anything that bad outside of being an asshole which a lot people have been at some point in there life and he genuinely helped some of the people he did wrong as well not saying it makes it right but it wasn't some huge career ending thing people tried to make it there wasn't enough bad things for most people to even care past a couple weeks @@malaksyan64
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@@user-me1mv4vy9qwe don't even need to separate them here our GOAT is a redeemed man 🙏
glad to see you back
That Yugioh Master Duel music in the background is killing me 😂
Seth, I missed your videos man.
Thank you for being here.
Real ones will hear that Yu- Gi - Oh Master Duel music lol... I thought I had it open in the background on my computer
He has the Dr. Disrespect mentality: "I'm at the tippity top of the mountain, but only half way up."
RIP TO THE GOAT AND THE BEST MANGAKA OF ALL TIME TORIYAMA
There’s no way to answer this question because this is a moving goal post.
Only in the manga.
Not in the anime.
Not gonna lie I thought this dude was cancelled a while ago, but this came up in my recommended.
should’ve stayed that way the fact he can get away with sexual harassment of a minor is absolutely wild
Beerus is so strong that even when multiple data books says something else is stronger, Beerus is still stronger
the power to change lore itself
the data books in question:
My nigga Seth
lol
LMAOOO
@@GuyVick snap? What were you going to do? Write a very mean comment? Hahahaha I'm shaking in my boots.
Alright I said nigga, I'm not black tho.
What are you going to do?
Snap and do what?@@GuyVick
@@GuyVickYou werent gonna do shit boy,few of you are any different than the average guy
Honestly the creative team didn’t predict this show would go this far. They completely focused on one piece.
"Beerus - that's why my power has no limits 🙂🔥(chapter 69)." Beerus is indeed a formidable character in the Dragon Ball series. His power seems to be linked to his desire for battle and his mastery over techniques like Hakai and Ultra Instinct. His thirst for battle seems to fuel his destructive potential, making him even more formidable as a fighter.
Beerus was cool way back but now he's just there. He'll say something cool aka repeat himself and the fandom will explode. Please just do something interesting with him. Have him fight Quitela, fight black Frieza, or all four of them go against in a battle. Kinda out on Super now. So many more better manga out there right now.
With that last mention, now I kind of want to see a comprehensive list of who are the most proficient gamers in Dragonball.
Seth we need a video on how strong CC Goku is
100% agree
Why are people still watching Seth’s videos
Because he makes peak powerscaling videos
And ?
Move on man
Move on? He did some weird shit that stuff doesn’t just go away your supporting a bad person
@@ridgevolleyclips2199 watching a bad person's content doesn't mean your support them.ever heard of the saying "separate art from the artist"
that tier list was clever as fuck lol
Seth you NEEDS to drop the Life of Akira Toryiama 10 hour iceberg/video. I know you want this bag bro
THIS
Ya I’m real country that’s how I talk
How is this channel still up?
Why would it be down?
@@sarexui634 cause of the allegations
@@goopy95 you can't really take a channel down because of allegations. There has to be a reason for it to be taken down.
cuz SETH IS UP lil bro
he's him good content creator.
That masterduel music had me trippin. I thought I left my game open 😂
Seth finally. Now post a vs battle alr, also one of gokus final battles should be a rematch against beerus at least in the manga which would solidify goku>beerus and in the anime it will solidify goku>beerus but also upscale anime beerus which is what i think should happen imo at least
29:23 did he Sh*t himself?
The image of the new Kai becoming Spongebob is funny as hell.
Rip Toriyama, 😢he'll forever be a legend
I want to say that beerus being weaker than boo 75 million years ago might not even be that bad considering how buu had the old kais absorbed who we know have energies that dwarfs the z fighters.
Goku is just what they named the CPU before they gave Goku a controller that wasn't plugged in.
It's so funny how Arale is probably the strongest character in Dragon Ball 💀
I was just talking about this
Ironically beerus did beat her
@@Drawing4Justicebut she's a gag character, and she has way better feats.
@@Songokulight2467doesn’t matter even goku said beerus was stronger