Another 9mm Suppressor Comparison
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Hey there folks! Today we take a look at some more 9mm suppressors. Some of the we've seen before in another comparison video but some are new. Enjoy!
I’d say the Wolfman was the quietest. 👍🏼
Correct, how can I buy it, would you please tell me,sir?
Just got my Wolfman out of jail last Friday. Tried it out on Saturday on my APC9 Pro. It was stupid quiet with subs. Going to try it with the wipe this Saturday. Great vid! 👍🏼
Nice dude! 💪
Sold me on the Wolfman! That's the one I was looking at and this is in short configuration I can't imagine how quiet it is with long configuration. Plus it's compatible with some other stuff. Improved version of the old trusted wolf_sd9 platform. Great video. Thank you for the comparison.
Nice 😎🤙 The Wolfman is definitely one of the most versatile cans by Dead Air. It’s a very solid choice.
Glad to help 👊🏻
Will the wolfman clear a red dot (trijicon rmr hd on echelon)?
It will just clear my 48MOS with a Holosun 407k. So it should just clear your setup.
Definitely appreciate these videos. I've only got a few cans at this point, so it's great to see comparisons between brands. One thing that is worth mentioning, for those in the market for pistol cans, is their their overall diameter can obstruct your sight picture (even with suppressor-height sights). Volume is great for sound suppression, but you gotta think about the host you'll be running the can on!
Great input Tj 👊🏻
Glad you liked the video!
@@CalebDowning I know these cans will block the iron sights but what about red dots? I just bought ( hasn't been delivered yet) a G43X MOS and a Holosun 507k X2 to go on top. Has a plate to mount to, so it won't sit flush on top. Think the red dot will be able to see over the Odessa?
You’ll be perfectly good to go with the Holosun clearing the Odessa 👌 I’d also highly recommend getting a set of Lower Cowitness sights from Suarez International. They work very well with the red dot and will clear the Odessa as well.
@@CalebDowning Thanks for the info! Much appreciated.
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So similar on laptop speakers. Seeing your vids on cans makes me want to get one. A suppressor will be tons of fun with the AR-9 I'm building for my final project at SDI.
Nice dude! Once you get into cans you never look back 😁 They are pretty dang addicting.
Good luck on your capstone, don’t rush the milling 👌
Love my Odessa 9, can pull multiple caliber (.22LR, 5.7 etc) and sub gun duty just fine. Hearing safe and very quiet on 9 subs at full length…suppresses .22 at only 3 or 4 baffles which makes it shorter and lighter than the Mask.
It’s a pretty versatile can when you put it that way 👌
@@CalebDowning hells to the yizzle
Thank you for video. Didn’t know an adapter was needed to easily switch hosts. Thanks again.
Always glad to help 👊🏻 Glad you enjoyed the video man!
Wolfman was the quietest and with subs🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Ya buddy 💪
Lol. “Title text here” on supers on #4.
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Thanks…
I was going to get the 9k a few weeks back with Silencerco's buy one get one 22 can. Actually last week but, it was out of stock overnight. So I got the Octane 9 and booster, direct thread to get a free 22 can. I believe that is right on the 9 can. With the new e-form should have the 9 in 3 months.
I saw that deal. Pretty tempting I must say 👌
I’m interested to hear how long your actual wait is ⏳
I will try and remember to let you know. I just don't have time to do videos. My prediction is at the rate my local gun shop and Silencer Shop were running out of stock.... This first round is likely to take longer. Us Texicans were all sitting back and not buying anymore cans with our new Texas Can law. I would bet the sale and the ATF's move to streamline the process was based on most Texicans not buying. You give me buy one get one free.....I am in😀👍@@CalebDowning
Great video BUT you should have ran all subsonic rounds THEN ran all your supersonic rounds... that would have been an absolute dead give away. I get that your main focus was to demonstrate thr difference between sub and sup in each can.
I hear you. Perhaps I can do something like that on other reviews🤔
Wolfman for the win!
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Awesome video! I could hear the differences through my headset!
Couple questions;
1. What is/was the bore size of the JK can?
2. What are the bore sizes of the other cans?
3. How many baffles were on the JK? I counted 2 plus the endcap. Have you tried it in a longer configuration?
I wonder how the JK would have compared up with more baffles and drilled to 9mm. I know volume was your control factor, but all of the other cans had more baffles, which could definitely translate into better sound suppression. I love your videos man, keep it up!
Well thanks man, I appreciate that 👊🏻
It would definitely sound better with proper bore size and more baffles.
On camera, from our end, I would say #4 was def the quietest on subs. As a very close 2nd on subs would be the omega. Thats just what I heard. Also, other than weight is there any issue it seems most people run shorty cans on their pistols? Like say, why not a 7" D cell out of alum or titanium? Sometimes I think the best results would be achieved having BOTH length and diameter. As long as the gun will truly cycle when I need it, and its as quiet as I could hope for, I dont mind the weight, if my adrenaline is going prob not gonna notice a few more ounces anyhow to be honest
I hear ya man.
Personally, if I am going to be using a suppressor on a pistol then I’m gonna want something that is smaller and lighter vs longer and heavier.
There’s a balance and point of diminishing returns when you get a can that’s too long. If the can is too long then you will get a significant amount of pressure that gets dumped back into the port. A short can doesn’t have as much of that problem but it’s gonna be louder. With all that said, there’s a balance that should be met.
@@CalebDowning Oh I see. So, in the G48, as far as that issue goes, is there any benefit to running a more lightweight spring/rod? Like especially if u do go longer can? Reason I ask is cuz I have g48 but can wise mostly for carbine/rifle. The only booster I have around here is SDTA I believe, if I can find it, normally never needed one. Kinda not digging the whole browning action thing with supp pistols vs rifles lol
Some pistols will benefit from different weight springs/rods.
I’ve got one Glock 19 that had a lot of cycling issues. I tried heavy and light springs and it still didn’t help. But that is how you are supposed to tune your pistol to function with a suppressor.
Thank you for the comp sir!
No problem 🤙
IMO the 4th one (Odessa) sounded the best, shooting the subs. I really didn't pay that much attention to the supers. But, first video I've seen of yours and liked and subscribed. Good work! Good content, since I just bought a G43X. Hmmm...I wonder?!!!😄
Perhaps that’s the best balance of suppression and back pressure(port pop) 🤔
Glad you enjoy the content man 👊🏻 And yes, it’s a match made in Heaven for that 43x 😉
I thought the Wolfman handled the supers better and the Odessa did the best on the subs. Just the opposite of your report. I like the narrowness of the Oddessa, It looks like it wouldn't need special sights. I noticed you had trouble with the cycling on the first three shots. Was that the pistol or the lighter weight bullets or the suppressor? What's your guess?
That’s the idea of the Odessa, no special sights needed 👍
Most of the time I just need to clean/oil my pistons and then the suppressors will run. Another nice thing about the Odessa is that you can tune it to run more reliably. 👍
Is that the JK 105LT CCK?
Can you see the sights over the suppressors?
The Wolfman is pretty large so it’s hard to see irons over that can. If you use an optic then you’ll be fine.
Not a lot of firearms experience. Just purchased S&W FPC and Wolfman. Not tried yet. Intend to use 147 gr subsonic for HD. Several suppressor videos HAVE MENTIONED “BOOSTER” OR “BOOSTER SPRING”. WHAT IS THAT? WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE ME HAVING CYCLING ISSUES WITH THE SETUP I DESCRIBED?
The booster is a device that allows the pistol to cycle with the additional weight of the suppressor. The main problem I have had that has stopped my pistols from cycling properly is simply keeping the pistol lubed. Make sure your system is lubed and you should be good to go.
People love the Wolfman but i went with the Omega9k gen2 and I'm currently waiting on the bloated gubmint bureaucracy known as the BATF to release it to me. I went with the omega because it's shorter and the performance is right there too!
I didn’t know they made a Gen 2 of the Omega 9K 🤔 What’s different about it vs the original?
I will agree that the 9K holds its own pretty well when it comes to the other 9mm cans out there. In my opinion it’s not going to be as quiet as the Wolfman but it is smaller and for “size to suppression” comparison, it’s pretty close to the top of its class 👌
Think I’m gonna get the Wolfman for my Glock and scorpion.
Nice choice. The Wolfman is pretty dang versatile 👌
Interesting, Even with my crappy hearing i could notice the difference.
Very nice 👌
Jus wondering, how was the diameter of the Wolfman & Omega 9k? Did your sights and reddot clear the diameter?
Red Dot clears but I don’t remember if the suppressor sights actually cleared 🤔 I’ll check next chance I get.
I have a dead air ghost I’m trying to run on an agency glock 19 but it won’t cycle so I’ve been considering the Odessa 9 because of how light weight it is in comparison to the ghost
It looks like you had a little trouble with it cycling though
The nice thing about the Odessa is that you can tune it a little in order to get it to run better. I didn’t take the time to do that for the video. Next time I go out I’ll try and mess around with it and see if I can get it to run more reliably.
I can't wait until my Wolfman gets out of jail... Not only can I use it for handguns but can run it on my 350 legends and 300 Blackouts also as long as you don't go crazy with it you can even run them on 556 guns and it's modular... It's a tough suppressor to beat. Don't know how I missed this one but I got it now...
It’s one stud of a can for sure 👌 I love mine 👍
Cool video
Good even perspective I thought.
That last shot out of the Odessa was quieter than my stapler 😅
You may have just costed me $800…
Thanks for putting this out.
Well thanks man 😎👊🏻
The Odessa with subs is surprisingly pleasant 👌
Cool video dude. I guessed correct. Wolfman was quietest. Odessa was close.
Thanks man 👍
Nice👊🏻 They we’re pretty close, a lot easier to hear in person.
@@CalebDowning I’ve been testing my wolfman on my stribog and Springfield saint in 300blk.
Wolfman does well on the stribog, but really shines on the saint. With subs it’s so quiet I barely even feel it cycle.
Sick 🤙
Odessa 9 💪
It’s a great purpose build can 👌
Great comparative video. To my ear Can #2 was better on both supers and subs. Thank you.
Fantastic review, I have an older AAC Tirant 9 that’s showing it’s age and I’ve been looking for a 9mm can for my SP5. For the size and suppression that Omega 9K is hard to beat, but the modularity of the Wolfman is also very appealing.
Thanks J.P. 👊🏻
For me the Omega 9k looks “cleaner” but the performance of the Wolfman is unquestionable. Both great cans. It all depends on what your going for.
@@CalebDowning Thanks man I appreciate the feedback.
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I have both the Wolfman and Odessa 9, they are great cans.
Excellent choices 👌
Do you like the Odessa I have a Wolfman and want another 9mm but I'm thinking I'll just get another Wolfman it's so quiet and modular. But I like how skinny the Odessa is so I'm conflicted .
I can’t speak for Nike but I’ll answer for me. The Odessa will never get as quiet as the Wolfman, but it is definitely smaller and more compact. If you want to add some versatility to your suppressor line up then the Odessa would be good. But if you want another really quiet can then the Wolfman would be good.
Also keep in mind the Odessa has an extremely narrow range of use. It’s basically only a 9mm can. If that’s what you want then go for it.
I enjoy mine but I got it knowing it’s limitations and not expecting it to work outside it’s wheelhouse.
@@CalebDowning cool thanks I figured that . That's what made me lean toward a 2nd Wolfman it can do so much more.
Solid 👍
Hey and since you already have a Wolfman you may consider getting a Ghost 🤷♂️ I’m just saying… I’ve never shot one so I can’t speak with any authority/experience on it, but depending on your caliber selection it could be something to consider 🤔
What booster are you running on the JK Armament
That’s the YHM booster and Griffin Armament Cam-Lok piston.
Omega 9k is the move for my CZ Scorpion but I might go with the sandman for my 8.2" 300blk AR Pistol as it sounded really good
Nice 👍
FYI, you can get a KeyMo mount for the Omega 9k if you ever want to put it on any 300BLK rifles that have a KeyMo brake. I use this adapter on my Hybrid to give me more options for my rifles set up to take the Sandman
What KeyMo mount have you found that works on the Omega 9k? Super interested in something like this.
The three 9 cans sounded the best by far. The thing that seems to separate them is form. I've heard that the Wolman blocks even suppressor height sights and at 1.6 inches wide is even fatter than a full sized duty gun. Wouldn't it be hard to use and annoying to carry?
It would all depend on actual application and use. There are some suppressor specific holsters that will work with even the larger Wolfman, but those aren’t really tailored toward concealed carry. On that note, any suppressed pistol is going to have its challenges when it comes to carrying it.
The “obstructed” sights issue isn’t as big of an issue to me. If you shoot with both eyes open then you can superimpose them sights onto the target and still get accurate hits. If you have a red dot then you’ll be able to see everything you need to see.
That Odessa is really small and is much more discrete, but it’s never going to sound as good as the larger Wolfman. Simple physics 👨🔬
Maybe, but like me I can put it in my 5.56, 9ms, 357 lever gun. It’s way more useful to me then a dedicated 9
Why no rugged obsidian 9
I don’t have one of those 🤷♂️ I’ve heard good things about it though.
Excellent video. NFA Review is a good one to rip off (J/K). I'm sure these types of vids really help people hear the difference. Can you do a comparison of supers and subs with the Odessa 10 baffles and full-length Wolfman?
There where I hit the idea 💡 unashamedly, I piggybacked his idea 🤷♂️
Sure thing, I’ll try and get that shot 👍
@@CalebDowning Awesome man, I really appreciate you making these types of vids. I'm sure NFA Review/Adam would give you a thumbs up, especially since there are so many cans out now and the more comparison vids the better. By the way, I heard you mention the 10 vs 11 baffles in your Odessa vid. I also have an Odessa and I actually contacted Dead Air about the baffles, and this was their reply in case you're interested:
The design of this suppressor has been changed and is now documented as a 10 baffle design with the appropriate length, and we need to follow this design per regulation.
I apologize for the inconvenience and unexpected change to the product you were researching. The engineers and designers of this product found sound suppression performance to begin falling off quickly after baffle #10 and made the call to cut the eleventh baffle based on that info.
I do wish you would wear ear pro to protect your hearing (even if you already have some damage) while doing these types of vids, especially with the supers!
Glad you enjoyed it man 👌
Hey that’s pretty good info. I’ve got the 10 baffle version.
I know, I really should wear eye/ear pro 😬
All I could hear was the action sliding on the odessa9 shooting subs
Ssuuuper quiet 👌🤫
What's the best sub ammo 9mm?
I’m my opinion, hands down the best subsonic 9mm is Freedom Munition 165gr HUSH. If you can’t get your hands on that then the next best thing is to reload some 165s. That ammo cycles in my guns and is significantly quieter than any other subsonic ammo out there.
@@CalebDowning I appreciate the info man
Not a problem 👌
That bonus can sounded a lot like my obsidian
Interesting 🤔 I’d love to get my hands on an Obsidian. Heard good things about them. How do you like yours?
Absolutely love mine, its a very versatile little can. I haven't put a ton of rounds through it so far, im at about 5 hundred or so. I've only had it for about a month now but it's been flawless so far.
@joshwilliamson8403 Nice 👍 I’d love to get one of those at some point.
someone else there had written that the Odessa gets very hot after several rounds compared to other cans, can you speak to that? Seemt to have drawbacks but the only one that doesn't requires supressor height sights to use sights
I haven’t noticed that it gets super hotter compared to other pistol cans 🤔
Very cool
Thanks J 👊🏻
Odessa 9 was best
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And the wolf man was in short configuration too. Waiting on my wolf man out of atf jail
O you’re gonna love it when it’s released. The Wolfman is an awesome can 🤙
The first 2 minutes you said a million times of "I'm not so sure", what's the point of the following time~?
Ya know, I’m not sure 🤔🤷♂️
Sorry, I couldn’t resist 😂
Hey guys Chris Fix
They all sounded fairly equivalent except the JK was junk.
I will say that the JK is a Form 1 can from back in the day and it is unclipped. They cans they sell now are clipped and, I would suspect, sound better.
@@CalebDowning I would love to see a showdown between Obsidian 9, CA$H 9, and Mod9 FS with those other 3.
Also, I am going to buy one of these 9mm cans if this Mojave doesn’t drop soon…
That would be pretty cool to try those 🤙😎
I’d really love to see that cash 9. It’s probably the only Huxwrx can that I’d ever get unless they change over to the HUB mount for their rifle cans.
I am going to test out a flow through can here pretty soon from a newer company. It will be the first flow through that I’ll have used, and it’s 9mm 👌
2 & 4 we're my picks.
Nice 👌
Number 2 was the quietest
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Super comparison 4:08 4:19 4:32 4:48
Wolfman all the way for me.
Ya buddy 💪
With quality speakers and headphones... Odessa was best with subs, Wolfman was next with subs. I don't really care about supers.
A request... please don't use a Glock again for suppressor tests as they are notoriously poor suppressor hosts. Bad dewll time makes lots of port noise and as you showed, often they just don't work with suppressors. Same story with Glocks at Silencer Shop RTR, the NFA review channel and Tim's Military Arms Channel.
I hear ya man(pun not intended) 😁
What if I did the same thing again but with the MP5? Talk about a great suppressor host 👌
What is the price?
The price for what?
@@CalebDowning I m asking for the price of the said cylencer. actually I want to buy it .ok
“Highly modified” two pieces of China trash on that gun! 🤦🏻♂️
Hahaha 🤣😂 I love it man!
@@CalebDowningThat comment posted above itialian relic's comment where the guy is asking for the price is verrrry suspicious, brother
#2
Rugged?
They are all on Griffin Armament Cam-Lok pistons.
@Caleb Downing I was guessing on the last can but, still wrong answer.
Aaaa, gotcha… Not a Rugged. Actually it’s closer to a form 1 can than anything else 😉
@Caleb Downing I'm new to form 1. Doing my first form 1 now. I'm just waiting on the paperwork. Got the jk 155 sbr I'm working on.
Nice. I’ve had good luck with my JK can 👌
Just found you on youtube. Love your content and your presentation. Im subbing now.
Awesome, thanks Pierre! I hope you continue to enjoy the content 👊🏻
Wolfman is a rifle/carbine can tho. Not a can that works well for handguns
True, but that depends on your definition of “works well”. It sounds really good on pistols but you won’t be able to use the old school, one eye closed, shooting technique. If you have suppressor height sights or better yet an optic then you can definitely utilize the Wolfman on a pistol.
I will agree that it is designed for PCC work and not specifically for traditional pistols 🔫