The identities of the mothers involved were NOT concealed for their protection. Rather, the move was meant to conceal the names of the children so they could heal and grow up in relative peace and not be subjected to further trauma or reminders of their abuse. The judge knew if the names of the mothers were released, it would be easy to figure out the names of the victims. Hope that helps.
That and knowing Wales' history with mistaken identity (the infamous Paeditrician-Paedophile meme as referenced in Arby 'n' the Cheif was based on a real incident in 2000 where a bunch of idiots confused a Paediatrician with the word "Paedophile" and assaulted him in his Cardiff neighbourhood, on top of vandalising his house and disrupting his line of work) it's for the best to NOT reveal their names to the public.
how could the kids grow up normally with the mothers they had. I respect the judge withholding the mothers names to protect the children. But if they still got to be part of their kids lives, then the justice system needs help.
And zero sympathy. Just a shame we have to rely on prisoners to carry out a just sentence because when it comes to kids the abuse goes straight to the top and they protect each other.
@sophiecat5713, sad but true. The very people that are supposed to protect children, including many Church leaders, politicians, judges, some teachers ext are the ones that perv on kids. Personally I don't know one person who was not molested in foster care. And I know several. I am almost 60. I hope and pray things change but until people demand stricter laws, nothing will.
What the heck, even a two-year-old and a 10-month-old baby suffered abuse from this crap of flesh and blood. Listening to Last Train Home would definitely never be the same again. Bastard should rot not only in jail but also in hell.
I have also worked in a psychiatric prison where there was creeps like this, but holy crap, Watkins is really extreme in the sense that he truly has no concern about what people/society thinks about his deviance. There is NO way he can ever be safely let out on the streets again. No way. Don't do it.
I agree wholeheartedly. There is no way a person like that can be rehabilitated, and as such, CANNOT be let back into the community under any circumstance other than perhaps house arrest.
@DiD86 The mothers' names were omitted in order to protect their children, not because anyone gives a shit about protecting the scumbag moms who helped this predator committed these atrocities
@@DiD86 One of the women that is in communication with Wade Wilson. Her name is Kristin and she sent pictures of her daughter to him and had her children in the courtroom for his sentencing for the death penalty for unaliving two innocent women. His sentencing was on August 27, 2024. The Wade Wilson situation is a disgrace . I don't understand the attraction to these types of men and the women who are fantasizing about them it's really disturbing.
@@sparkpenguin Yes, my comment isn’t clear on that. Even though I know and understand the reasoning for why their faces are kept private, I truly hate that they get to hide from what they’ve done. That someone like that could be among us or at a park with children, and no one would know of their evil deeds. That they don’t have to face the embarrassment of having their faces plastered online forever. That’s more so what I meant by shameful if that makes sense. That they don’t have to face the public shame and scrutiny that they deserve.
I did tree trimming for a while, rough work sometimes but I did become quite proficient with that big machine that chips apart branches and stuff. Just putting that put there, I'm qualified and eager to get started!
I almost threw my phone down with anger at the mother's in this video... I'm currently trying to divorce my wife because wanted to try something similar with our little 2 yr old son (I have him he is safe, and she's not living in the house no more) its just crazy that a mother would want to do these things to there own child or any child... Thank you for making the video. It just reinsures me that I'm making the right decision of leaving my wife.( I'm catholic and live in the USA where divorce is still frowned upon)(yes,there are family members that says I should work it out and stay married and have her try to get psychiatric help) I have tried to get her some and she wont go. Thank you very very much for making this video... it does help me feel better about my decision of going threw of divorcing my wife and trying to get full custody with supervised visitation (for wife) for my son (what layers will agree on) Thank you
Oh man! I feel for you, my dude! I was emotionally abused by my ex. I am so glad that you are sticking to your guns and, more importantly, are doing the right thing by your child. You've got to stay strong and carry on looking out for number one, because no one else can do that for you! Keep your chin up, man. There is light at the end of the tunnel, and it isn't always an oncoming train! You'll get there. Look after yourself.
Dude, I'm Catholic too, but for me if you're gonna put your kid in that situation you're breaking your covenant of marriage, any kids brought in under that covenant are part of it. She's violated that, so that's on her, not you.
This makes me want to cry, I’m so heartbroken for these babies and children. As a mommy,you protect your children with your LIFE!!! For these women,they deserve prison time and shame along with this horrible monster
I had to subscribe, this is something we should be putting all resources in to put a stop to monsters like this. People are trying to justify crimes like this, here in America they try to normalize these creeps as a form of mental illness.
Yeah, I’ve seen the creeps trying to rebrand pedos by calling the Minor Attracted Persons and trying to piggyback on the LGBT community. Good to see that a lot of those people ain’t having that shit and calling them out! You can’t just give them a cutesy sounding name to try and deflect from what they actually are! I’m glad to have you on board. Welcome!
Watkins isn't someone you can rehabilitate, he is proud of his crimes and will definitely reoffend when given the window of chance. He needs to be locked up for life without visitors, and without any chance of parole. He must not leave prison, ever, unless its in a sealed box or bodybag 👍
I dont understand how anyone can be sexually attracted to a child. yuck. just yuck. Good thing they stopped him when they did,; it wouldnt be long before he escalated to murder.
Totally agree with your assessment of the current state of policing. Embracing a culture of respecting free speech means that you protect someone's right to say the uncomfortable stuff, not just the nice stuff. The current PM doesn't give a damn about the importance of this fundamental right. Countries burn over not being able to hear the truth. I pray Britain can come to its wits.
One thing about this whole policing offensive language thing: I really don't think it's actually all about "political correctness" per se, or at least not all of it. Look at what happened when people held up signs saying "NOT MY KING" in protest after the Queen died, and that one lawyer (American term I know) who asked a Met Policeman if displaying said sign could warrant an arrest, to which the cop replied "yes". The only minority group whose feelings are supposedly being protected in that instance are Royals, presumably. In all, it seems like the true motivation behind it just might be to keep underfunding them, because it's not like this sort of thing requires a lot of funding to "prosecute".
Sorry to tell you but as an American it appears blatantly obvious what is happening in your Nation, as it is what is happening in mine as well. It is happening on this platform every day. If you have not received complaints of "cyber-bulling" or "Violating Community Standards" for speaking the truth, simply continue commenting on videos and give it some more time.
and do you realize that as bad as it is, policing in England is the best in the world..? the worst in the west are Canada (my home), Australia, and omg, Ireland !!! sadly, it's terrible everywhere.
He should get a full life term. I'm a survivor of abuse and feel nothing but hatred for him. He's definitely a narcissist. It's beyond me why he still gets fan mail while banged up 😡😡😡😡 He even looks evil. Good video. Thank you x
I think this is shocking because he looks the complete opposite. Slender, fit very handsome young rock star. Prob could have the choice of millions of beautiful women, but chose something horrid. If u compare watkins to glitter or saville they like chalk n cheese in looks and charisma.
They would have different names & identities now anyway. Probably already have been released. Everyone who followed LostProphets on social media knew their names anyway. They never hid their craziness & obsession online before being arrested. They weren’t minors (like the killers of Jamie Bulger were) Hiding their names never made much sense to me. No one would have ever gone after the kids. It just seemed more like protecting the culprits & always is
But surely the kids were taken away from them so it wouldn't matter? Maybe thats what the narrator understood and was miffed at their anonymity? A decent force wouldn't leave them together but then looking at the other failings, who knows..
Destroying children's lives gives you anonymity and freedom. Trafficking and dealing drugs gets you arrested. The justice system in this country stinks!!! Prison justice wasn't swift enough, unfortunately.
And this is why the UK censors the names of sex pests. Because the public's attitude to justice is more akin to Mobutu Sese Seko than anything close to involving Blackstone's Razor.
@@SpaceXfan2005 mistakes can be rectified……child rape can not. Can we get this quality animators hard drive checked and his kids interviewed asap. Any nieces and nephews should be contacted too ….
@@SpaceXfan2005 There is NO cure for pedophilia or psychopathy. This cretin is violent and a danger to society and cannot be cured or reformed. There is something wrong with you. REPORTED.
Home Office serially unfit for Purpose they're latest foul up condemning alleged rioters and social media hate "Offenders" as criminals without any trial or conviction.
Him being in an emo esc band makes a lot of sense, the early 2000’s emo scene was FILLED with creeps and pedos the emo scene has a massive predator problem
Another aspect that seriously angers me is the lack of action from law enforcement. It's not just this case, either. Globally, it's an issue. It is one of the reasons why victims don't come forward.
One thing to consider regarding anonymity of the parents of the children, is the children themselves 🤷 Give me 5 minutes with the parents, they would learn what abuse is really quick.
He could get the worse of the worst every night of his sentence and it still wouldn't be bad enough. I don't understand how people get so perverted and twisted to see such young children as sexual object for personal gratification. It is horrible and disgusting.
I can understand it as we were all attracted to little children when WE were little children. Something in these people simple never develops..probably a brain region. There are cases of brain damage from accidents causing this sort of deviance.
I genuinely found this distressing, but it's a story that needs to be heard. What an absolute monster. The absolute truth should always be available to the general public.
This is one of those cases that just makes you feel sick, even if you're generally desensitised. You think you've seen the worst humanity has to offer and then someone like Watkins comes along. I believe he's already served at least half of his sentence by now, which means he's going to be let out sometime sooner than we'd like, when it really should be a "Throw away the key" situation. On a lighter note, I like your 'Judge' voice when reading the quotes.
@@sjelliott6660 then why is he still alive teaching guitar to other inmates?? Because he pays for protection! He can afford it! They'll never rinse him dry because he's loaded!
Laws protect bad people from natural justice. In jail he is surrounded by people that don’t mind breaking laws and some have nothing to lose. People on the outside mostly do have something to lose by being punished
Such a brilliantly done video! And yes, I whole-heartedly agree, the current state of our police is disgraceful; chasing people over spicy tweets rather than actual physical crime - complete and utter laziness on their part! We desperately need serious reform of our forces if anything is going to get justly resolved
I played music myself for many years. When in a band, you get to know the other musicians very, very well. This is especially true when touring, when you are very much in each other's company, whether you like it or not. I personally believe that the other members of the band at least saw SOME stuff that Watkins got up to. They probably didn't know the full extent of it, but I'm sure they saw him with young girls at times.
Your monologue toward the end should resonate deeply with all right thinking folk. We have, indeed, lost our way, and there is scant evidence as yet of light at the end of this tunnel.
The court transcripts are harrowing. There are a couple of lines written in there that i still can't shake out of my head to this day. Beyond sickening this case. But, very good coverage of this. My first video of yours ive seen. Gained a subscriber for sure
I was so shocked he turned out to be a pdfile, I loved him growing up, queued for hours in the rain just to meet him and the rest of the band. Monsters are in the places we least expect.
For a woman to allow him to do that to her child just makes me ill, she wouldn't have let some regular bloke do it, she wanted to be attached to a star...no.matter.what. I hope she never sleeps peacefully...she deserves no peace...ever
If you remember correctly, Peaches Geldoff named and shamed the mothers on Twitter then oddly enough she was found dead days later. There has to be a ring that involves higher up folks who are protected, its sick but it goes on. A 17 year old man SA'ed 6 kids between the ages of 12 and 14 and only got 60 hours community service!! Where's the justice in that??
@@DiD86 i thought it was dead suss right from the get go! Why those monsters of mothers were protected in the first place is just crazy to me, but I bet there's a reason behind it, there always is.
@@victoriocanale2946tbf I see it as protecting the children, even with a name change - they'll find out about the name change soon after filling out their own forms :/
Amen Brother! I am with you 100% on that last part most of all!!! Society is headed for anarchy if things arent put to a change by our (leaders & so called protectors)!!!
Thanks for the pre-warning. At 71 years of age I thought I had seen enough and read enough to handle the content. Let's just say that I needed a couple of brandies to steady myself. As regards the police role in this ghastly affair it has echoes of the way the police failed to follow up on Savile.
To me as a father to a young child, these women offering up their own young children to him is even more sickening than what he did. Why did they get anonymity when they were happy to offer up their own offspring to him, their own flesh & blood, when their every waking instinct should be to protect them
Same here. I only heard of this pedo and his band only after the news broke about these sickening crimes. And thank God, because I might've given that band a listen otherwise.
My first time viewing your channel and you've done a marvelous job covering this gruesome and highly disturbing case. Although this vile creature and his crimes are extremely unpleasant, the public does need to know what type of filth as this lives and walks amongst us. Your newest subscriber, Sarah
Hello from the 🇬🇧 This is the first time i have listened to you and you had me captivated. The content aside, your views and eloquence in delivering this video without the need for music in the interludes and omitting anything that was not necessary to jazz this up was so refreshing. I subscribe to a growing number of channels and enjoy the variety of most of them but have never 'joined' but you could be my first exception! Keep up the fantastic work, I'll be keeping an eye out for any new content.
I share your sentiments on the state of policing at the moment. My boss had his car stolen. Police closed the case an hour later, without bothering to attend. Then he sent them the video evideance from ring door bells. They reopened it, only to close it again an hour later citing no evidence. Then the thieves started posting vids of them nicking it on social media and showing off. Police did nothing. Still saying no evidence. As for Watkins, a whole life order should have been given to him, to be served in a cesspit.
It’s bloody ridiculous. And I actually support the police but when they do shit like what happened to your boss, it’s no wonder people lose their faith.
There has to be a special place in hell for Evil Watkins and “Woman B”. But I agree that the women’s names should be kept anonymous, just for the sake of the children. If you identify the mothers then you identify the abused children.
That was the most disgusting thing I have ever heard. Poor narrator. Poor me. I can’t unhear this. Poor babies and children. I really hope they find someone who is able to help them. Trauma and trusting people, I imagine, would be difficult if not impossible. I really do hope that they can find peace 🕊🌹
Hey man, make sure you're taking care of yourself. These things can have an impact on you mentally and you might not realize it until it's too late. It's hard enough hearing it and I can't imagine researching it. You're a class act and I hope you stay well.
@@joelfisher2570 "I can't imagine researching it" Your words not mine. Research?? You could pull this stuff off any news paper at the time! No real need for valium, counselling or Prozac...
His bandmembers lied when they said "didn't know". It's sick his former partner did not get charged. She is also a part of it. These women sending him fanmails should be investigated
I used to be such a fan of him, his music and his band. After learning what he did, and being a victim of extreme child abuse myself, I have no sympathy for this man or whatever horrors come his way. He earned them by being a truly sickening animal. I honestly find it hard to enjoy LostProphets music despite how much I truly loved it... Keep him locked up where he belongs.
I’m sorry and can relate. Sounds like you’re dealing as you can. I have been trying to stuff down the memories with drugs. Unsuccessfully but still I try. Struggle life is a struggle. No one wants to hear it. No one cares. I’m to get on with it. Sometimes I feel as though I’m just waiting for it all to be over with.
This is very similar to Phil Kusabs from the Canadian band Blasphemy. He was busted in a ring that operated in New Zealand. He was in the band for 15 years, and they covered for him the whole time.
Why do you spread lies? Canadian black metallers Blasphemy, with whom Kusabs played live, have issued the following statement: "This hired stand-in never showed us signs of his unacceptable ways. Otherwise this would have been dealt with swiftly and violently as per usual in the Blasphemy circle. There is a difference between evil and the ways of pathetic scum!"
He has possibly served roughly half his sentence already. 😮Imagine what will happen if he does ever get out. Constantly grooming those he can get his hands on. 😖
You are so right with your comments on our decaying standards of social morality. What will it take before we the general public act to save our country and decent standards
Liking these types of videos is hard to do. The story itself is horrifying. But I believe it’s important to put these stories out for public consumption so we know who the perpetrators are and so we know what to look for so we can try to prevent grooming and victimization in the future. So thank you for reporting Sir. I hope this man rots in prison for eternity. He deserves to never ever be let out.
It’s crazy I got banned permanently from instagram for apparently violating community guidelines, but this guy still has an active twitter account, WHAT
No other channel on YT has the class, the intelligence, or the voice. Well done, my friend. I hope you've cleared your head after doing the research for this particular video 🥺
What the actual hell is wrong with these women! Even the girlfriend, who turned him in, is awful. If he said and showed her those horrible things, why did she keep dating him?
You know what horrified me the most was the mothers offering up their children..... WTF!!! Mother's are supposed to be your safe place.... Well mine was!! How can a mother offer up her son or daughter like that??? Just how???? Why???
My god his poor family and bankmates !! Severe personality disorders. Extreme psychopath. Unbelievable criminal and shame on the Police in some ways complicity to premeditated horror !!
There’s a heartbreaking, and completely understandable tremor in your voice when you read their vile words. It’s near impossible to listen to, so speaking them aloud…..
Band mates must have known. I cannot see any way that it could have remained completely hidden from them. But who wants the gravy train to dry up? Obviously, those of lesser morals..
You'd be very surprised how well they can keep it hid. I HAD, a very close family member who has been like this for his entire life, and none of the family had a single idea until the day he was arrested and dragged off to prison right out of the clear blue sky for 20 years. It was especially difficult for me because I looked up to this person who I spent most of my time playing in bands with. Their was zero clues or evidence to make me ever think that he was one of those. I haven't spoken to him since and will probably never speak to him again.
People tend to not believe things that seem unbelievable to them. The thing is... would it have made a difference?! People complained about him to police and nothing happened... what use would it have been? I find it worse that police either ignored it or their hands were tied
@@annnee6818yes it could if they can get enough people within the industry to want him expelled. Like nothing would have happened to other celebrities until the industry decided that the person had to go
Your coverage of this case was brilliant as always, DiD. I'm glad he got some kind of justice in prison - I was not aware of this. Even if it wasn't enough for the disgusting crimes he committed, it is better than absolutely zilch justice. May Watkins rot. He will be a danger to children until the day he leaves this world.
Truly sickening and degrading acts of deviancy. This tops the notoriety of King, Clifford, Harriz and the like. Your summary at the end sums up today's failings.
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The identities of the mothers involved were NOT concealed for their protection. Rather, the move was meant to conceal the names of the children so they could heal and grow up in relative peace and not be subjected to further trauma or reminders of their abuse. The judge knew if the names of the mothers were released, it would be easy to figure out the names of the victims. Hope that helps.
That and knowing Wales' history with mistaken identity (the infamous Paeditrician-Paedophile meme as referenced in Arby 'n' the Cheif was based on a real incident in 2000 where a bunch of idiots confused a Paediatrician with the word "Paedophile" and assaulted him in his Cardiff neighbourhood, on top of vandalising his house and disrupting his line of work) it's for the best to NOT reveal their names to the public.
These women should not have any contact with their kids,so their names don't matter. They a monsters as much as he is
So glad someone else understands this 👏
Yes, they did all you said FOR THEIR PROTECTION!!! PROTECTING THEM so they can grow up with some normality.
how could the kids grow up normally with the mothers they had. I respect the judge withholding the mothers names to protect the children. But if they still got to be part of their kids lives, then the justice system needs help.
The worst crime of all and should be a entire life sentence with zero chance of parole
Agree totally! ✊🏻
And zero sympathy. Just a shame we have to rely on prisoners to carry out a just sentence because when it comes to kids the abuse goes straight to the top and they protect each other.
@sophiecat5713, sad but true. The very people that are supposed to protect children, including many Church leaders, politicians, judges, some teachers ext are the ones that perv on kids. Personally I don't know one person who was not molested in foster care. And I know several. I am almost 60. I hope and pray things change but until people demand stricter laws, nothing will.
And prison justice
Awful..
What the heck, even a two-year-old and a 10-month-old baby suffered abuse from this crap of flesh and blood. Listening to Last Train Home would definitely never be the same again. Bastard should rot not only in jail but also in hell.
Wait, you only just found this out ?
Yes 😬@@raregrimebeats1352
@@levinaurgoax Amen 🙏 🙌 👏 ❤
THat song REALLY sucks anyway!
@@raregrimebeats1352 yeah. Didn't bother looking up for updates from bands I do not listen to often.
I have also worked in a psychiatric prison where there was creeps like this, but holy crap, Watkins is really extreme in the sense that he truly has no concern about what people/society thinks about his deviance. There is NO way he can ever be safely let out on the streets again. No way. Don't do it.
I agree wholeheartedly. There is no way a person like that can be rehabilitated, and as such, CANNOT be let back into the community under any circumstance other than perhaps house arrest.
How shameful that the women who knowingly handed over their children and participated, get to have their identities protected.
I couldn’t even imagine what would need to go through one’s head to make it seem like that was an ok thing to do.
@DiD86 The mothers' names were omitted in order to protect their children, not because anyone gives a shit about protecting the scumbag moms who helped this predator committed these atrocities
@@DiD86 One of the women that is in communication with Wade Wilson. Her name is Kristin and she sent pictures of her daughter to him and had her children in the courtroom for his sentencing for the death penalty for unaliving two innocent women. His sentencing was on August 27, 2024. The Wade Wilson situation is a disgrace . I don't understand the attraction to these types of men and the women who are fantasizing about them it's really disturbing.
wasn't it to help keep the kids' identities protected? last i'd read a few years ago they're still unnamed and i'm sure they want it that way
@@sparkpenguin Yes, my comment isn’t clear on that. Even though I know and understand the reasoning for why their faces are kept private, I truly hate that they get to hide from what they’ve done. That someone like that could be among us or at a park with children, and no one would know of their evil deeds. That they don’t have to face the embarrassment of having their faces plastered online forever. That’s more so what I meant by shameful if that makes sense. That they don’t have to face the public shame and scrutiny that they deserve.
I did tree trimming for a while, rough work sometimes but I did become quite proficient with that big machine that chips apart branches and stuff. Just putting that put there, I'm qualified and eager to get started!
I truly wish you could!
One can dream...
@@SpaceXfan2005 Well, you sound like a complete See You Next Tuesday. Do you need to hand yourself in to the police, by any chance?
Why do you have Finnskogen flag as profile picture?
Feet first please!
I almost threw my phone down with anger at the mother's in this video... I'm currently trying to divorce my wife because wanted to try something similar with our little 2 yr old son (I have him he is safe, and she's not living in the house no more) its just crazy that a mother would want to do these things to there own child or any child...
Thank you for making the video. It just reinsures me that I'm making the right decision of leaving my wife.( I'm catholic and live in the USA where divorce is still frowned upon)(yes,there are family members that says I should work it out and stay married and have her try to get psychiatric help) I have tried to get her some and she wont go.
Thank you very very much for making this video... it does help me feel better about my decision of going threw of divorcing my wife and trying to get full custody with supervised visitation (for wife) for my son (what layers will agree on)
Thank you
Oh man! I feel for you, my dude! I was emotionally abused by my ex. I am so glad that you are sticking to your guns and, more importantly, are doing the right thing by your child.
You've got to stay strong and carry on looking out for number one, because no one else can do that for you!
Keep your chin up, man. There is light at the end of the tunnel, and it isn't always an oncoming train! You'll get there. Look after yourself.
You are 100% doing the right thing and thank God your son is safely in your care! Xx
Holy fuck. That's scary. Don't ever apologize for that divorce. That woman should NEVER be alone with your son or any children.
Dude, I'm Catholic too, but for me if you're gonna put your kid in that situation you're breaking your covenant of marriage, any kids brought in under that covenant are part of it. She's violated that, so that's on her, not you.
i pity the kid
UK police failing to address multiple child abuse reports? Impossible
No exceptions to that rule.
Right ?! It's like they failed time after time to investigate grooming gangs
Every day. Every damn day!
Complicity
It's seems a common practice now in the police force across UK
Mate, I don't know how you can keep your composure reading these facts out. I'd be falling apart. Hats off to you, sir
It took a few edits and re-reads to gather myself….
This was a hard one to say the least. Thank you DiD for cataloging this horrible story despite the disgust that you (and we) felt.
This makes me want to cry, I’m so heartbroken for these babies and children. As a mommy,you protect your children with your LIFE!!! For these women,they deserve prison time and shame along with this horrible monster
I had to subscribe, this is something we should be putting all resources in to put a stop to monsters like this. People are trying to justify crimes like this, here in America they try to normalize these creeps as a form of mental illness.
Yeah, I’ve seen the creeps trying to rebrand pedos by calling the Minor Attracted Persons and trying to piggyback on the LGBT community. Good to see that a lot of those people ain’t having that shit and calling them out! You can’t just give them a cutesy sounding name to try and deflect from what they actually are!
I’m glad to have you on board. Welcome!
Watkins isn't someone you can rehabilitate, he is proud of his crimes and will definitely reoffend when given the window of chance. He needs to be locked up for life without visitors, and without any chance of parole. He must not leave prison, ever, unless its in a sealed box or bodybag 👍
There's not a hole deep enough for that whole bunch, and Amen to every word you spoke at the end. Love the channel.
Thank you for doing this video. I too was extremely sickened. I am saddened by the news that he is still among the living.
I dont understand how anyone can be sexually attracted to a child. yuck. just yuck. Good thing they stopped him when they did,; it wouldnt be long before he escalated to murder.
Totally agree with your assessment of the current state of policing. Embracing a culture of respecting free speech means that you protect someone's right to say the uncomfortable stuff, not just the nice stuff. The current PM doesn't give a damn about the importance of this fundamental right. Countries burn over not being able to hear the truth. I pray Britain can come to its wits.
Amen! But sadly I don’t hold out much hope….
I fear that the allowing Starmer into power might be the final nail in the coffin for our country
One thing about this whole policing offensive language thing: I really don't think it's actually all about "political correctness" per se, or at least not all of it.
Look at what happened when people held up signs saying "NOT MY KING" in protest after the Queen died, and that one lawyer (American term I know) who asked a Met Policeman if displaying said sign could warrant an arrest, to which the cop replied "yes".
The only minority group whose feelings are supposedly being protected in that instance are Royals, presumably. In all, it seems like the true motivation behind it just might be to keep underfunding them, because it's not like this sort of thing requires a lot of funding to "prosecute".
Sorry to tell you but as an American it appears blatantly obvious what is happening in your Nation, as it is what is happening in mine as well. It is happening on this platform every day. If you have not received complaints of "cyber-bulling" or "Violating Community Standards" for speaking the truth, simply continue commenting on videos and give it some more time.
@@TobinHolz being penalized by a social media platform, whether justifiable or not, is not the same as being penalized by law
Literally a demon, in human skin. I pray for all his poor victims… God Bless them, please ❤❤❤
He clearly didn't bless them, did he?
@@annnee6818 that you know of…….
@@annnee6818not how it works. But, he didn’t protect them, I assume that’s what you’re insinuating
Then God wanted it to happen?
@@annnee6818 that you know of
I can NOT even believe wtf Im hearing!!
Bless your Mum and Aunty mate! ❤ I couldn't agree more with your summary at the end. The current state of policing in Britain is shameful.
and do you realize that as bad as it is, policing in England is the best in the world..?
the worst in the west are Canada (my home), Australia, and omg, Ireland !!!
sadly, it's terrible everywhere.
@@katherine9109 I'm in Vancouver myself. At least ours have guns.
@@katherine9109USA here. Yup same. Just look up “acorn cop” I don’t know if the vetting is bad or what…
He should get a full life term. I'm a survivor of abuse and feel nothing but hatred for him. He's definitely a narcissist. It's beyond me why he still gets fan mail while banged up 😡😡😡😡
He even looks evil.
Good video.
Thank you x
I think this is shocking because he looks the complete opposite. Slender, fit very handsome young rock star. Prob could have the choice of millions of beautiful women, but chose something horrid. If u compare watkins to glitter or saville they like chalk n cheese in looks and charisma.
The mothers remained anonymous because if you named them, their babies identities would be known. Surely the babies should remain anonymous?
That's what I came here to say. I can't believe the narrator didn't understand that.
Yes.
They would have different names & identities now anyway. Probably already have been released. Everyone who followed LostProphets on social media knew their names anyway. They never hid their craziness & obsession online before being arrested. They weren’t minors (like the killers of Jamie Bulger were) Hiding their names never made much sense to me. No one would have ever gone after the kids. It just seemed more like protecting the culprits & always is
But surely the kids were taken away from them so it wouldn't matter? Maybe thats what the narrator understood and was miffed at their anonymity? A decent force wouldn't leave them together but then looking at the other failings, who knows..
They should have been sterilised :|
Destroying children's lives gives you anonymity and freedom. Trafficking and dealing drugs gets you arrested. The justice system in this country stinks!!! Prison justice wasn't swift enough, unfortunately.
Standing on the rooftops, everybody go get the WOODCHIPPER!!!
It’s the best sure fire cure….
Feet first WOODCHIPPER ….JD for President
And this is why the UK censors the names of sex pests. Because the public's attitude to justice is more akin to Mobutu Sese Seko than anything close to involving Blackstone's Razor.
@@SpaceXfan2005 mistakes can be rectified……child rape can not. Can we get this quality animators hard drive checked and his kids interviewed asap. Any nieces and nephews should be contacted too ….
@@SpaceXfan2005
There is NO cure for pedophilia or psychopathy. This cretin is violent and a danger to society and cannot be cured or reformed.
There is something wrong with you. REPORTED.
I look forward to the day you're appointed Home Secretary.
😂👍🏻
Home Office serially unfit for Purpose they're latest foul up condemning alleged rioters and social media hate "Offenders" as criminals without any trial or conviction.
Shockingly disgusting and vile, pure evil!
Amen!
Hey, I know it's tough to listen to, but you're doing great. Don't ever feel bad about feeling the way you do. A lot of us feel the same way. 👍
I appreciate that
Him being in an emo esc band makes a lot of sense, the early 2000’s emo scene was FILLED with creeps and pedos the emo scene has a massive predator problem
It was the way so many of them tried to act childlike that put me off back then, it was off.
Agreed
Have you read any previous music history lol? There’s always been predators in the industry. Some avoid the law, some don’t. It’s not specific to emo.
Bet you believe all metalheads worship satan and drink blood as well
I can't believe that this guy fell through so many cracks😢 thanks for the words at the end
Makes you wonder how someone could be so incompetent.
His prison sentence was too light!
So was the sentence of the mothers
I agree! How did he get such a light sentence?
Another aspect that seriously angers me is the lack of action from law enforcement. It's not just this case, either. Globally, it's an issue. It is one of the reasons why victims don't come forward.
Thank you very much for your channel. It is good to hear from sane people.
Thank you so much for your tender way of telling this story ❤
Calling both Ian Watkins and the women who allowed their children to be abused by him monsters would be an insult to monsters.
One thing to consider regarding anonymity of the parents of the children, is the children themselves 🤷
Give me 5 minutes with the parents, they would learn what abuse is really quick.
5 minutes is too little, imo. That's a lesson that would require WEEKS (though admittedly I'm a bit rabid on the subject).
He could get the worse of the worst every night of his sentence and it still wouldn't be bad enough. I don't understand how people get so perverted and twisted to see such young children as sexual object for personal gratification. It is horrible and disgusting.
I couldn’t agree more.
The production of pø4n has a lot to answer for its self, I'm assuming! !.!¿¿?😮🙈
Yep i agree 💯 percent POS
I can understand it as we were all attracted to little children when WE were little children. Something in these people simple never develops..probably a brain region. There are cases of brain damage from accidents causing this sort of deviance.
I genuinely found this distressing, but it's a story that needs to be heard. What an absolute monster. The absolute truth should always be available to the general public.
This is one of those cases that just makes you feel sick, even if you're generally desensitised. You think you've seen the worst humanity has to offer and then someone like Watkins comes along. I believe he's already served at least half of his sentence by now, which means he's going to be let out sometime sooner than we'd like, when it really should be a "Throw away the key" situation.
On a lighter note, I like your 'Judge' voice when reading the quotes.
This monster is actually safer behind bars…unfortunately. Years from now, once released, he won’t last a week.
Quite agree.
This type of prisoner gets no sympathy on prison.
@@sjelliott6660 then why is he still alive teaching guitar to other inmates??
Because he pays for protection! He can afford it! They'll never rinse him dry because he's loaded!
Laws protect bad people from natural justice. In jail he is surrounded by people that don’t mind breaking laws and some have nothing to lose. People on the outside mostly do have something to lose by being punished
Hasn’t he been assaulted in prison many times and forced to pay extra for everything?
I really liked your diatribe towards the end there. Powerful.
Such a brilliantly done video! And yes, I whole-heartedly agree, the current state of our police is disgraceful; chasing people over spicy tweets rather than actual physical crime - complete and utter laziness on their part! We desperately need serious reform of our forces if anything is going to get justly resolved
Two DiD vidoes back to back on back to back days?! The world makes sense again, you spoil us fans, beloved DiD.
Thank you. Thankfully I had two scripts ready to go, so I just thought, why wait?
I played music myself for many years. When in a band, you get to know the other musicians very, very well. This is especially true when touring, when you are very much in each other's company, whether you like it or not.
I personally believe that the other members of the band at least saw SOME stuff that Watkins got up to. They probably didn't know the full extent of it, but I'm sure they saw him with young girls at times.
Ridiculous to compare band mates of different bands. People are individuals not robots, people show others what they want them to see.
@@user-wickedflower No it's a perfectly valid comparison to make, and one that many other musicians have made in the past.
Your monologue toward the end should resonate deeply with all right thinking folk. We have, indeed, lost our way, and there is scant evidence as yet of light at the end of this tunnel.
And yet, I’m actually left wing for the most part. 😏 but I don’t fully align with any side.
The court transcripts are harrowing. There are a couple of lines written in there that i still can't shake out of my head to this day. Beyond sickening this case.
But, very good coverage of this. My first video of yours ive seen. Gained a subscriber for sure
These men are so hated yet the punishment never fits. To me.
And me!
I was so shocked he turned out to be a pdfile, I loved him growing up, queued for hours in the rain just to meet him and the rest of the band. Monsters are in the places we least expect.
For a woman to allow him to do that to her child just makes me ill, she wouldn't have let some regular bloke do it, she wanted to be attached to a star...no.matter.what. I hope she never sleeps peacefully...she deserves no peace...ever
I feel bad for the other guy named Ian Watkins. That’s bizarre.
he is a demon. no human would do that to another
I used to love this band, now I can’t even listen to them for the nostalgia
Like me and Woody Allen films.
20-29 years only???11!! i thought he had gotten life for this horrid shit
Worst part is he's eligible for parole in 2030
If you remember correctly, Peaches Geldoff named and shamed the mothers on Twitter then oddly enough she was found dead days later. There has to be a ring that involves higher up folks who are protected, its sick but it goes on. A 17 year old man SA'ed 6 kids between the ages of 12 and 14 and only got 60 hours community service!! Where's the justice in that??
I did not know that. Interesting. Might have to look further into that.
@@DiD86 i thought it was dead suss right from the get go! Why those monsters of mothers were protected in the first place is just crazy to me, but I bet there's a reason behind it, there always is.
@@victoriocanale2946tbf I see it as protecting the children, even with a name change - they'll find out about the name change soon after filling out their own forms :/
Amen Brother! I am with you 100% on that last part most of all!!! Society is headed for anarchy if things arent put to a change by our (leaders & so called protectors)!!!
That's the plan so they cambrong about martial law and then the great reset/ agenda30
Thanks for the pre-warning. At 71 years of age I thought I had seen enough and read enough to handle the content. Let's just say that I needed a couple of brandies to steady myself. As regards the police role in this ghastly affair it has echoes of the way the police failed to follow up on Savile.
Very much so.
To me as a father to a young child, these women offering up their own young children to him is even more sickening than what he did. Why did they get anonymity when they were happy to offer up their own offspring to him, their own flesh & blood, when their every waking instinct should be to protect them
I've heard of him and how disgusting he was. Never heard of his band until finding out he's a monster.
Same. Apparently a lot of people I am aware of liked them. Devils come in all sorts of pretty faces.
@@kyleeconrad True.
@@kyleeconradthe band were massive where you hiding?
Same here. I only heard of this pedo and his band only after the news broke about these sickening crimes. And thank God, because I might've given that band a listen otherwise.
RUclips will censor anything I have to say about what should be done about him (and those women), but I think everybody knows what I'm thinking.
My first time viewing your channel and you've done a marvelous job covering this gruesome and highly disturbing case. Although this vile creature and his crimes are extremely unpleasant, the public does need to know what type of filth as this lives and walks amongst us.
Your newest subscriber,
Sarah
Hello from the 🇬🇧
This is the first time i have listened to you and you had me captivated. The content aside, your views and eloquence in delivering this video without the need for music in the interludes and omitting anything that was not necessary to jazz this up was so refreshing. I subscribe to a growing number of channels and enjoy the variety of most of them but have never 'joined' but you could be my first exception! Keep up the fantastic work, I'll be keeping an eye out for any new content.
Thank you very much and welcome aboard.
I share your sentiments on the state of policing at the moment.
My boss had his car stolen. Police closed the case an hour later, without bothering to attend. Then he sent them the video evideance from ring door bells. They reopened it, only to close it again an hour later citing no evidence.
Then the thieves started posting vids of them nicking it on social media and showing off. Police did nothing. Still saying no evidence.
As for Watkins, a whole life order should have been given to him, to be served in a cesspit.
It’s bloody ridiculous. And I actually support the police but when they do shit like what happened to your boss, it’s no wonder people lose their faith.
There has to be a special place in hell for Evil Watkins and “Woman B”.
But I agree that the women’s names should be kept anonymous, just for the sake of the children. If you identify the mothers then you identify the abused children.
That was the most disgusting thing I have ever heard. Poor narrator. Poor me. I can’t unhear this. Poor babies and children. I really hope they find someone who is able to help them. Trauma and trusting people, I imagine, would be difficult if not impossible. I really do hope that they can find peace 🕊🌹
It also became clear that his band mates knew of his antics but chose to remain silent.
I wouldn’t be at all surprised. It’s certainly VERY difficult to believe that they didn’t know.
Unfair and speculative.
There's something terribly dark and sinister going on in the UK. There's no way this is not the case.
Incredible video. I don’t live in the UK but if I did I would certainly encourage you to run for office. Brilliant wording at the end. ❤
No one who isn't a total compromised POS will ever be let into a position of power or influence. You do know where you at when you see this.
Hey man, make sure you're taking care of yourself. These things can have an impact on you mentally and you might not realize it until it's too late. It's hard enough hearing it and I can't imagine researching it. You're a class act and I hope you stay well.
@@joelfisher2570 It's all been well documented 10yrs ago! Nothing new here.😂😂
@hughzapretti-boyden9187 and that makes it less disturbing how? Also what part of my comment has anything to do with when it happened?
@@joelfisher2570 "I can't imagine researching it" Your words not mine. Research?? You could pull this stuff off any news paper at the time! No real need for valium, counselling or Prozac...
His bandmembers lied when they said "didn't know". It's sick his former partner did not get charged. She is also a part of it.
These women sending him fanmails should be investigated
Great pic of your Mom & Auntie! I'm American and I agree with everything you said at the end of the Watkins story. Subscribed.
The woman who turned their kids over to this freak were “granted anonymity?” Gosh, the UK is such a dump and a disgrace.
You’re not wrong.
You can't name the mothers because the children would then be known. Fool!
I used to be such a fan of him, his music and his band. After learning what he did, and being a victim of extreme child abuse myself, I have no sympathy for this man or whatever horrors come his way. He earned them by being a truly sickening animal. I honestly find it hard to enjoy LostProphets music despite how much I truly loved it... Keep him locked up where he belongs.
I am a victim of sexual child abuse ...and it destroyed me inside and out. I can only help myself get threw it day by day ...
I’m sorry and can relate. Sounds like you’re dealing as you can. I have been trying to stuff down the memories with drugs. Unsuccessfully but still I try. Struggle life is a struggle. No one wants to hear it. No one cares. I’m to get on with it. Sometimes I feel as though I’m just waiting for it all to be over with.
Thanks for the video. Let’s hope he gets more “attention” due to this. And I hope the mothers of these poor kids get the same.
This is very similar to Phil Kusabs from the Canadian band Blasphemy. He was busted in a ring that operated in New Zealand. He was in the band for 15 years, and they covered for him the whole time.
Why do you spread lies?
Canadian black metallers Blasphemy, with whom Kusabs played live, have issued the following statement:
"This hired stand-in never showed us signs of his unacceptable ways. Otherwise this would have been dealt with swiftly and violently as per usual in the Blasphemy circle.
There is a difference between evil and the ways of pathetic scum!"
Feel sick after hearing this great outro though absolutely spot on
New subscriber
You never fail us.❤❤❤
Brilliant video, great summary towards the end regarding the lax standard of policing in modern times.
I’d love it for it not to be true.
He has possibly served roughly half his sentence already. 😮Imagine what will happen if he does ever get out. Constantly grooming those he can get his hands on. 😖
I’d rather not think about it, all things considered. 😔
You are so right with your comments on our decaying standards of social morality. What will it take before we the general public act to save our country and decent standards
I wish more would stand up and speak the truth & facts like you did at the end! God bless you sir! Much Luv from your brother across the pond!
Liking these types of videos is hard to do. The story itself is horrifying. But I believe it’s important to put these stories out for public consumption so we know who the perpetrators are and so we know what to look for so we can try to prevent grooming and victimization in the future. So thank you for reporting Sir. I hope this man rots in prison for eternity. He deserves to never ever be let out.
He wasn’t even super secret about it. No wonder he didn’t care about trying to hide most of his crimes. It’s nuts
Monsters exist. I hope hell is real and has a special level for this kind.
I'm physically sick
Me too.
It’s crazy I got banned permanently from instagram for apparently violating community guidelines, but this guy still has an active twitter account, WHAT
Funky Town seems like a fitting punishment.
Totally!!!!
Great job! Now in my top 5 list of true crime to watch.
Will keep giving you the thumbs up!
Lots of love, from Canada
What a fucking monster. He should *NEVER* be released. Ever.
No other channel on YT has the class, the intelligence, or the voice. Well done, my friend. I hope you've cleared your head after doing the research for this particular video 🥺
This is jaw dropping
Very disturbing what he did! I don’t know who is worse, him or the mothers that allowed it. Just so horrendous
What the actual hell is wrong with these women! Even the girlfriend, who turned him in, is awful. If he said and showed her those horrible things, why did she keep dating him?
You know what horrified me the most was the mothers offering up their children..... WTF!!! Mother's are supposed to be your safe place.... Well mine was!! How can a mother offer up her son or daughter like that??? Just how???? Why???
When even dead Ted Bundy has still young women who edit Bundy's videos with music and you read the comments and tell you, ok this world is f...d-up.
Wrong on too many levels. Unforgivable. Philadelphia USA 🇺🇸
He should have no letters in or out of that prison
@@LaurieValdez-zk3dyit is clearly good for catching bad mothers
My god his poor family and bankmates !! Severe personality disorders. Extreme psychopath. Unbelievable criminal and shame on the Police in some ways complicity to premeditated horror !!
There’s a heartbreaking, and completely understandable tremor in your voice when you read their vile words. It’s near impossible to listen to, so speaking them aloud…..
Band mates must have known. I cannot see any way that it could have remained completely hidden from them. But who wants the gravy train to dry up? Obviously, those of lesser morals..
It certainly is hard to believe. I want to give people the benefit of the doubt but….
You'd be very surprised how well they can keep it hid. I HAD, a very close family member who has been like this for his entire life, and none of the family had a single idea until the day he was arrested and dragged off to prison right out of the clear blue sky for 20 years. It was especially difficult for me because I looked up to this person who I spent most of my time playing in bands with. Their was zero clues or evidence to make me ever think that he was one of those. I haven't spoken to him since and will probably never speak to him again.
People tend to not believe things that seem unbelievable to them. The thing is... would it have made a difference?! People complained about him to police and nothing happened... what use would it have been? I find it worse that police either ignored it or their hands were tied
It was well known among fan chats online how he liked really young girls they knew
@@annnee6818yes it could if they can get enough people within the industry to want him expelled.
Like nothing would have happened to other celebrities until the industry decided that the person had to go
Your coverage of this case was brilliant as always, DiD. I'm glad he got some kind of justice in prison - I was not aware of this. Even if it wasn't enough for the disgusting crimes he committed, it is better than absolutely zilch justice.
May Watkins rot. He will be a danger to children until the day he leaves this world.
It’s hard to believe that evil people like this exist in our world
Truly sickening and degrading acts of deviancy. This tops the notoriety of King, Clifford, Harriz and the like. Your summary at the end sums up today's failings.