Wisconsin Butter Burger Solly's Grille Copycat | Butter Burger Recipe
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The Butter Burger at Solly's Grille has been voted one of America's top burgers. This is my version of their Solly Cheeseburger. It was AWESOME!
Stewed Onion Recipe:
3 tbs olive oil
2 medium sweet onions, diced.
2 tbs unsalted butter
1/2 cup dry white wine
1 cup beef broth
1 tsp pepper
salt to taste
The above recipe was created by George Motz of Burger Land. It looks darker than the original, so I'm thinking about substituting chicken broth next time.
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Those onions looked delicious! 👍😍
It looks really close to the real thing
will do that dude😊
That looks delicious!! White wine and butter is a killer combo.... your kitchen gear is A+ // nice humble approach - thank you
I go to sollys often. Very close to how they're made at home.
You are a good guy, Greg, I like that you contacted the owner beforehand. Class act.
The people who run Sollys are great folks. I have been to Sollys several times, fantastic food- they also have an outstanding breakfast sandwich.
Breakfast sandwich you say? Do tell.
@@stuartbagley2586 it is fantastic. You've gotta try it.
Grew up on Solly's! Always dinner before a Milwaukee Bucks game. Couple butter burgers, fries and a chocolate malt. So good!
Are you overweight?
@@sstills951 no but ur mom is
All about the chocolate malt.
@@sstills951 Are you a knobshiner?
@@gunarannders7797 No sorry. You'll have to look elsewhere. Try the trailers on the other side of the park.
I live 15min from Solly's and it is one of my all time favorite burger joints. If you come to Milwaukee vist Solly's and AJ Bombers for two of the best burgers in the city.
ambkbero yesss you never lied George Webb’s on drunk nights lol
@@JazzNOtis OMG! WEBB's after Summer Fest or Conajito's
My cholesterol is through the roof. Who gives a shit, I need to make one of these. I wanna die happy!
I hear ya!'
Quality of life!
YAY !!!
I believe I had one of those burgers in Milwaukee back in the day, i.e. 1964. Never forgot how good it was and never have had one since that was as good. Hopefully, I will get back there somebody to enjoy another one. Wisconsin has great food. My family had a cottage on Shawano Lake years ago. Many fond memories.
oh shut up
Butter on a steak is something my family has done as long as I can remember.
I just reproduced the Solle's butter burger for my family. I tripled your recipe for the stewed onions and found that it was enough to dress 10, 1/3 lb burgers. Also, beer poured straight from the bottle is a very convenient and effective way to steam the cheese.
I live in an apartment in China so i am just watching your burger videos as i can't bbq at home. But when back to Cali i am gonna make and eat hamburger 3 times a day (at least). This will be one of my first burgers that i will make.
@MoroXII he died of lumbago
Don't let these assholes discourage you. Welcome back to the states.
Greg you need to do a cross-country road trip video series one of these days and try all the burgers you've been copying.
I would LOVE to do something like that! Start off in LA... Kick down the door of Umami Burgers while exclaiming, "I'm Baaaack!"
Yes please. Only with more profanity. "HEY UMAMI BURGER IM BACK, MELON FARMERS!"
Ballistic BBQ I kinda hoped to see my burger being made by you. I fear that is not going to happen anymore... ah well...
saskiapanter realize that I have A LOT of requests and I keep them all. I'll get to your burger, but you may have to wait a bit longer. I get numerous requests daily.
Greg, start making the bread from scratch
Looked absolutely delicious Greg! They've been around since the 30's for a reason.
I know that had to be one tasty burger Greg! Those onions looked awesome!
Since bread is just the most efficient way of getting butter into my mouth, these burgers sound like a must make to me!
Thank you so much. I've been going to Sally's since the 60's when my parents for took me there. I really doubt they ever used wine in their onions but they are the best stewed onions I've ever had.
That Sandwich is so Mouth Watering, great job Greg!!
I'm not even really an onion person more of a garlic person but any stewed or caramelized onions take meat dishes to the next level.
Dang, never heard of a butter burger. I'm
from the South, and we put butter on everything😂😂Thanks for sharing😃
No you gotta' put it on a burger! Thanks for stopping by Christy!
To be fair, Wisconsin rolls the hardcore butter way. We're talking puddles of butter per burger.
Christy's Cooking Channel you don't need it that's why our hospital is choked with heart patients. that burger is a dirty food.
Christy's Cooking Channel im from Wisconsin and were famous for that, i also got to say that Wisconsin is the burger belt, best cheese which means best dairy which means best beef.
Hi Christy!
I live in Wisconsin and Sols butter burger is to die for. I went their last year with friends and they will ask you how much butter do you want in your butter burger. I had the original and man did it taste great. As you said it's the onions and butter.
Sometimes all I want is a balls to the wall cheeseburger. And this is the one I am going to make next. Great vid!
My heart just exploded watching this! It just doesn't get any better than butter. Just ignore the chest pains and you will be eating in heaven!
Chest pains, left arm hurts and my vision is a little fuzzy... Pass the butter!
Solly’s is sinfully delicious. I get mine on a hard roll, no onion. I go with my husband, so it evens out my husband’s onion loving.
I live in Ga, and I tell you what, we are no strangers to butter lol!!! This is heaven 🙌😍🎉
God bless Georgia. and butter. 😘😉
Thanks for making me hungry at 3AM
Unbelieveable I was out of white wine so I used vermouth it was really good as well if anyone wants to to try
Set that burger on a Sheboygan Hard Roll from The City Bakery, in Sheboygan, Wisconsin.
Yesssss Sheboygan hard rolls are the best!
You can get it that way. Just ask for it on a “pillow”.
Zig says bust whos heiman, was a dancer in my grade school, loved her to death...
Buster Heiman then eat some Sheboygan brats thanks Carl Hirsch rip
"Line-in-coog-els" is the correct annunciation, but everyone gets Wisconsin names wrong, LOL! Solly's is a stop that has to be made if you're ever in Milwaukee! Nice video, sir.
I've had the pleasure of eating at Solly's. It's amazing. You only forgot the giant milkshake.
Would have love to included the shake. Glenn seems like a genuinely nice guy.
Thank you.
I had to laugh at that one! Love your comment.
In 1960 we would run to Solley's during high school lunch, chow down on a burger and shake and run back to school in time for next class. Never gained any weight because we ran it off when young. They have since moved but I will stop for a burger once a year as remembrance of high school days long ago.
For the Wisconsin experience, do everything but substitute a steak sandwich patty and Sheboygan hard roll for the hamburger bun and burger patty, use a slice of real cheddar, and serve with a bottle of Spotted Cow. Otherwise, spot on
That would be a backyard Wisconsin experience. Solly’s, kopps, mazos, Culver’s, etc. is a whole other thing.
Beer bath brats. Now THAT is classic backyard Wisconsin.
I’ve noticed a lot of the good burgers have onions I tried a burger just putting a lot of very thin caramelized onions with salt and it was honestly one of the best burgers I’ve had you can never go wrong with cooked onions on a burger
It's LINE-EN-KOO-GULS. -source, live in Wisconsin
Omg that's what l said...I'm in Florida, but I'm a Wisconsin girl thru and thru!!!
You, sir, are correct.
Live in Wisconsin. Can confirm.
Don't worry about the butter messing with your cholesterol. It doesn't.
Cholesterol is essential to good health
Keep the burger videos coming Greg! Love your work! Wouldnt mind trying that stewed onion on a decent hotdog too, maybe using batwurst sausages.
Hey man, I just finished supper and sat down and watched your butter burger video. Wow, I was salivating and wanted one of those bad boys. Great job!
Thank you Paul!
That looks amazing! I've always put butter on my steaks since University days when we had "Grill your own steak" nights every Friday . Good 'ol SAGA food service!
Oh my gosh me too! Back in my university days in WWU saga was our food service and my favs were the steak night on Friday and yes that butter! And I loved their lyonnaise potatoes for breakfast! Good memories.
I grew up in Milwaukee. Going to Solly's downtown was a very special treat. We did have Heinemann's on Silver Spring out in the 'burbs which served a great butter burger (there was no other kind) in a plastic basket nested in crispy fries. I only had the Solly's hamburger when there. The butter melted right on top of the burger. Fantastic! Thanks for the memory.
Another burger that is just as Wisconsin as the butterburger is a "Pete's" burger from Prairie du Chien- they've been in business now for over 100 years. And it's just a burger cooked on a bed of steamed onions. For beer- ya gotta have a New Glarus Spotted Cow.....but its' only sold in Wisconsin, lol.
Lived in p.d.c. my whole life.im 51 now.and have ate thousands of petes/Gokey burgers in my life.
I have been eating at sollys since 1955. The cheese berger with the onions and all that butter is still the same. Berger, fries, and the traditional chocolate malt from sollys you need to be there. It's an experience.
Try a Kroll's burger! Green Bay icon in the shadows of Lambeau and is a huge hit for folks visiting for a Packer game. Regulars from Chicago, Detroit and Minnesota call it a must hit spot.
I was born and raised in Milwaukee, and ate at Sollys many many times, I can honestly tell you, their burgers are simply incredible, ALL of them, Those stewed onions are a near "come to Jesus" experience!!
FYI, the beer is pronounced LINE en kugels. Chippewa Falls is my home town. Thanks for a great video.
Shasta Andersen pronounced “Chip-wa”
Mark Anderson , amen brother.
I am always curious as to why everyone is always stressing Unsalted Butter when the amount of salt in salted butter is so very very small it is almost nonexistent.
I have messed up a lot of recipes using non salted butter. That goes both ways though.
Only thing i can come up with is that maybe the salt affects the way the meat cooks as in texture or juiciness. But its true there isnt a whole lot of salt in salted butter.
Maybe they use unsalted because it's healthier for you? Lol 🤪
Hey, Greg!
Please, try to don't get me wrong but the cholesterol is not the enemy.
The problem is on bread (wheat and sugars).
Thank you for another great video!!!
Looks awesome Greg, I'll take two please.
Here in Michigan we finally got Culver's restaurants that specialize in butter burgers here in Oakland county. Well they are terrific for sure. I lived in Wisconsin for a year and therr the restaurants MUST offer butter on the restaurant counters...no imitation since they ARE the Dairy State.
I'll bet it would be even better if lots of mushrooms were cooked with the onions :)
I gotta agree fellow mushroom lover!
Oh hellll yeah! Good call.
I was waiting for the pickle slices. A little acidic balance to all that savory.
@@wcstrawberryfields8011 well pickles and burger cant be beat. So onions, mushrooms, AND pickles! Get us there! Im starting to drool!
Great idea! Thank you!🙏
I live in Arizona so the only butter burger I have ever had came from Culver's which I am sure doesn't compare to Solly's if they are actually the original creator of the "Butter Burger ". I have to say I do enjoy Culver's, but my curiosity is up to taste the difference. I hope one day I can visit Wisconsin just to try Solly's. Looks delicious 😍🍔
Wadda Burger!!... butter, beef & onyun, can't go wrong with that one :)
True Dat!
Been going to Solly’s since 1976. You are way off course on every aspect of their butter burger.
Greg - It's not lEEn-in-Koogle, it's LINE-EN-Koogle. (as in fishing line). Let's go have some Liney's, eh? I grew up in Wisconsin and Illinois ;) thanks for the vidjayo.
Ope, this guys an up nort 'Sconnie.
As I have been there numerous times ,Solly's is a great place . Nothing fancy , just great food .
Ahhhhhh, butter burger... but no Wisconsin cheddar?FYI, I'm born and raised Milwaukeean, and it's "Line-en-koo-gul," or "Liney" for short.
@@Wilsycat American cheese is processed garbage. Get a real cheddar cheese.
Yess the summer shady
I know it may not look all that appetizing when you see the huge gobs of butter, but I used to live near Solly's and honestly, I've never had a better burger anywhere. The only downside is you need STRICT portion control when eating these. The burgers aren't that big and normally I could put away two burgers of this size without batting an eye but when it comes to Solly's, one burger, as delicious as it is, goes a long way. Overindulge and you'll regret it an hour or two later; there's only so much butter a human can safely eat at one sitting, lol. Make these for your friends and family on summer gettogethers and I promise that you will be the hit of the cookout. And if you are ever in Glendale, WI on Port Washington Rd. I highly recommend trying the original. Kopps, a mile or so north on the same road, also makes fantastic burgers, but Solly's really is in a class by itself.
Cholesterol count doesn’t matter!
We all die in the end, and eating great food is a god given gift!
Eat great food and love our lord God ! That’s what really matters.
There is no God and that is not good food. NEXT!!
CriticalmaK go with that belief, dude I think one day while your burning in the flames ? You will remember this conversation?!?!?
@@raydude9208 What actually happens when we die is far worse than your silly caveman fairytale. This conversation, along with you and I will be gone forever the moment we die.
if you really are a Christian though, maybe don't go telling people they are going to burn in flames. Jesus never once said this to anyone. Have a great day ;)
Don't joke around with "Our God", those who indulge in gluttony, shall eat themselves to the judgement they deserve.
CriticalmaK dude you are greatly mistaken Jesus clearly said on many occasions that if you don’t repent of your sins You will surely perish. I ask you what does Parish mean ? That clearly means you will die and suffer a punishment meant for Lucifer!
The Bible clearly states that hell fire is waiting for Lucifer and all those who follow him.
You’re probably listening to the likes of Joel Osteen, or one of the other satanic preachers who leave out these important verses in the Bible!
I've never heard of Solly's or the butter burger, but I can't wait to try this one. Thanks Greg!
Thanks for checking it out!
Heroes don't always wear capes
Thats good. Capes went "out" in the 50's. Except for Dracula.
I grew up eating at Solly's.
You nailed the clarified butter.
Your butter looked a little thicker, and bigger, they are seriously the size of Mc Donalds Cheeseburger.
Too many onions, (but necessary).
You didn't use enough butter, it's at least 2 tablespoons per burger.
Great job, preach the word!
Sidenote: I once saw a woman eat 10 of them. If I eat two I need a nap.
NO ONE uses olive oil to cook onions for a BUTTER BURGER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shut ur pie hole
Last time I went to Sollys for a burger and fries my left arm tingled the whole way home. Sooooo good!
If it is possible, can you do a copycat FatBurger. I love those. The one that was closest to me, in my Canadian city doesn't seem to be there anymore.
FatBurger is on my list. Thank you Dwayne!
Looks great! Dont worry about the butter, when its not cooked, as it goes in, it goes out, worry about the butter on the grill, thanks for the recepy.
😮 oh my goodness that looks like a messy burger but drool 😍
This is quickly becoming my favorite youtube channel.
Omg my mouth is watering plus I’m hella stoned munchies overload
Im not from Cali, man, but this burger is from overload hell! -----> Munchies away!
Thanks Greg great job as usual. I really like the wide variety of burgers. It gives me plenty of ideas on how to jazz them up at home.
Greg, You should check out Culvers Butter Burgers. They are a chain, and use a very similar process to your Smashburger technique which i love and use all the time. I picked up a ballistic griddle for my Weber Summit and the thing is amazing. I had 6 patties on it last weekend and then ran a bunch of red onions while the burgers rested. The local Whole Foods sells a patty that's a blend of Brisket, Short Ribs, and Ribeye and they are insane. I think it's available around the country and not just here in Colorado but it's my go to, with some butter lettuce, fresh tomato, red onion, mayo, and a nice mild cheddar on their Brioche bun. Love the channel!
I second you on that. Culvers is pretty good for a "fast food burger" joint. Also..I love those Wisconsin cheese curds that they have.
They are pretty good too. Overall it's a nice restaurant.
Larry Webster I just had Culver's today haha
I was thinking of Culvers too lol
I've eaten at Culver's twice, and their "Butter Burgers" sucked. I'll try this recipe. Thanks for posting.
P.S. I'll try and add a link to my BFF (since deceased) posted on our cooking website. It is similar, but the onions are started underneath the burger patty.
Nice job. Good ol' fashioned Milwaukee style. Lots of dairy, no hot stuff, really simple seasoning. Looks like others have pointed out that Leinenkugel's is locally pronounced with an English long-i sound. But after a couple of liters, they're just called "Leinie's" (line-ease: slurred, not shaken).
Now that you're into Wisconsin territory you have to do Culver's.
I saw Culver's. Another butter burger, right?
Yep. With Wisconsin cheese.
Best butter burger ever never frozen always fresh.
Culver's isn't that good...
habyss heck yes
How does this man not have more subscribers? Amazing!
Why all the negative comments? Grass fed butter is amazingly good for you.
TheASTrader people are conditioned to think all fat is bad. What's really bad is all the carbs and sugar we eat
Agreeing, as I drink my buttered bulletproof coffee. lol
Cause people hear "butter" and think they're smart addressing it's fat and gross, yet they'll search a video on how to make a burger named "butter" burger.
I just don't get it.
butter contains the most vitamin D beside the sun.
If said people are being absolutely rude in their display of ignorance, then yes, we can totally blame them for being Negative Nancies. Grass fed butter brands: Kerry Gold, Organic Valley, Anchor, etc. Kerry Gold is pretty much available everywhere, but it's not 100% organic. Costco carries it. I prefer Organic Valley Cultured Pasture Butter in the green wrapper. You can find it at Sprouts, Wholefoods, sometimes at Trader Joe's.
WOW!~ - I made this for the family tonight. Loved it! I used chicken stock for the onions and it was fine. Thanks for posting this.
Living in the Milwaukee area I've been to Solly's! I think you put just a tad too much butter on the buns but other than that it looks spot on. 👍
Watching the videos I was thinking I didn't put enough on!
Brian Kaminski
its common by chefs to put this much butter on. it will melt into burger to other side. last week I grilled out and I only put 1 tablespoon and it wasn't enough.
False. He put on abut half the amount Solly's puts on their burgers.
Hi Ballistic BBQ, good episode, I don’t know if someone mentioned it yet, but the leinenkugel you opened up is pronounced, phonetically, (Line-in -kugel.) the last pronunciation of kugel was accurate. Anyways, at least from my part of WI it is, Cheers!
No he didn't add enough butter lol
I saw a butter burger on Americas's Test Kitchen last week. I will have to try this on my Ballistic Griddle. Awesome video!
It's really good Scott!
Wow. That. Is. Amazing! I'm a cheeseburger fiend😂😂😊❤️🇺🇸Thank you for this great video
Wonderfull, I can see why this burger is a favorite for middle aged and older people. Very easy to chew and digest. cholesterol off the charts though. that's why you only eat on Sunday afternoon when you get old. lol I'm so trying this. this week.
WOW. so awesome. Hamburger America is my favorite food documentary, and George Motz show that was on the Travel channel (I think that was the channel) was insane. Did you get an induction stove top or electric burner? I think that's much better rather than back to the camera at the stove...... great stuff !
Worked at Culvers and made butter burgers for a few years. Summer Shandy is my favorite brew.
Been to Solly's grill and had their butter burgers I owned the Aftersix newspaper and entertainment guide out of Green Bay,WI. I covered everything in Wisconsin as far as food and entertainment bars and music and musicians and I Love the food and people of Wisconsin you did a good job but I Know there is nothing like a real Solly's butter burger . Also , should mention I had Butter burgers from a bunch of places in Wisconsin and it is absolutely got to have butter dripping out of the Burger and bun without a doubt . Peace . WTF you've never had a Solly's butter burger oh man you have no clue then . Hope you have by now .
Love the butter puddle magic music. Must be delicious tasting, a sporadic treat if you want to, you know, preserve a heartbeat... :). And hey, you found the knobby bowl too I see! My request is for more Tuxy video-bomb walk-bys. Seriously, anything you offer is welcome.
Ah yum I remember the stockyards butter burger like you did it yesterday , this looks tasty Greg!! Got to be in the top 5 messy burgers category but oh so good!
Matthew Schurter Nothing like a messy burger, eh! Do what I do, eat over the sink & use the faucet as a "napkin", haha.
Been there done that so true !!!
Haha! Nice to know I'm not alone, lol.
That Stockyards Butter Burger is still in my top three of all time favorite burgers. Soooooo Good!
I cooked this today. It was amazing. I made my wife very happy because she loves onions. After all the stewing and reduction, they just melted in your mouth. I guess I was a bit timid and didn't get as much outflow of butter as you did. I have leftover onions for tomorrow night and I'll adjust up. Thanks again. By using butter we are avoiding the perils of trans fatty acids!
Really, in Wisconsin they use American Cheese?
Wisconsin's in America.
david wood
What about Wisconsin cheese? I went to California and ate Californian cheese. Now in Virginia I eat Virginian cheese..
last time i checked Wisconsin was still an American state...
@@ciarahbrookes9521 lmao
Let your taste buds do the talking. They dont care where the damn cheese is from!
I listened to your great video, taught me how to cook a butter burger, is the butter salted or unsalted that you generously slather on the bun? Rather an important detail.
Typically unsalted, but you can use salted if you so choose. Sollys uses unsalted FYI.
I feel sick and hungry at the same time
Why! Butter is very good for the human body, anyone, who tells you different is lying!
@keptyeti been there, done that, broke the scale.
Oooooh yeah....
This has to happen for me at least one time before I'm 40. And this was posted on my birthday. This is what God wants for me, lol.
Butter is good for you. Don't you read?
Grass fed Organic butter
I went to Solly's 20+ years ago at what I'm told is the old building. My wife and brother in law went for lunch. When the food came my brother in law said excuse me I didn't order mayonnaise on my burger. The waitress said, "that's not mayonnaise." The burgers were killer and the don't forget the malts. If you ever go anywhere in WI, get a malt- Solly's are tops notch.
that's a "Patty-Melt" here in Okla, with butter added
A patty melt is on bread not a bun
Either way....it's a patty-melt in upstate New York too... delicious!
It must really suck to live in states where clearly no one knows what a patty melt even is.
A patty melt has caramelized onions, not stewed onions.
A patty melt comes on sliced rye bread, not a bun.
A patty melt has an oblong-shaped patty to fit the rye bread.
A patty melt uses swiss cheese, not american.
A patty melt is topped with thousand island dressing.
This is NOTHING like a patty melt at all. lol
Ive had a lot of patty melts in my day and none of them were anything like what you think is a patty melt .
Love how you seem to think you know what a patty melt MUST have..
Edit for a stupid typo ..
You've had a lot of burgers in your day, and clearly none of them were patty melts. Hell, you don't even know the proper way to spell it (hint... it's not paddy melt), so I don't know why anyone would realistically expect you to know how one is properly prepared, Shawn.
I like the Leinenkugel’s Summer Wheat, too! It’s one of the few beers I will drink. It’s pronounced Lie-nen-koo-gels or as we say in Wisconsin: Leinie.
Seems like this would be really delicious even without the all that butter on the buns.
My thoughts exactly! Great observation. I think it would prevent overdose by butter.
It should be elegant not greasy spoon. But thats just my everybody's got one, 2 cents.
I just made one and this burger is awesome! I used a buffalo burger and chicken broth in the stewed onions. I am going to eat many more of these. we don't think anything about eating mayo on our burgers so whats the difference? if you've ever eaten a fast food burger, large fry, movie popcorn, macaroni and cheese ect... you've eaten way worse. butter is not the enemy. I love this burger. thank you for sharing.
I like my burgers thick ( about 1" cooked ) with the diced onions on the inside please. Medium rare will do. 👍
Damn! I was salivating! I love a good burger! Now I'm going to have to try stewed onions!
I butter my buns at home but after I butter them I broil them until toasted golden. Then dress as you like.
Stewing with Sherry. Jus sayin. 🤔
Buy a high quality butter.
Never skimp on the quality of butter, beer or wine. Thanks VOM!
Kelly's Grass Fed is some REAL GOOD STUFF !
@@mowdoc6792 nah, it's great, butt... Bretel french butter is the best in the world!
In my family we've always had crappy butter, I will be the one to break the chains of tradition, and buy good butter!
@@BallisticBBQ Or cheese?
I live only about 10 miles from Solly's and have never had one their butter burgers. Shame on me. Now I'll have to take a road trip to try the original before I try your version so I have a valid reference point. Thanks for presenting this.
Wow that's a Buttery Hot mess but it looks amazing
copious is right. that's some serious butter. looks great! thanks for the video.
My arteries clogged just from watching this video.
The more butter the better !!!! And those onions look like a dream !
Bunch of vegans and health nuts in these comments
Thats exactly how my chiropractor was, a health & excersze nut who died of pancretic cancer at age 54
Nature Heals then don't watch the video or eat the burger, pretty simple solution for your aching butt
10TOES how the f does someone else’s genetic misfortune somehow give you a green light to turn your mouth into a trash compactor?
@@happygayconservative4737 what does politicking have to do with greasy burgers?
They contain too much fat and are both self indulgent. Should we throw religion into the mix and make a stew about it? Gotta be careful though, too many cooks might spoil that broth.
🤓🙄
Bunch of cucks in this comment section