Makoto Yuki and Takaya vs Abaddon - Persona 3 Reload
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- Опубликовано: 2 фев 2024
- New scene where Makoto Yuki and Takaya fight Abaddon in Persona 3 Reload
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That is what I WANTED!!!
Takaya and the Protagonist interacting with each other!!! On the og their only exchange was on the Moonlight Bridge before the boss fight
It's not only by the fact that Takaya is the a "Anti-Christ" and the Protagonist "The Savior"
Their Personas are Thanatos and Hypnos, twin brothers and sons of Nyx! That's the kind of interaction and symbology I love in this franchise 😤
Thanatos isn't his persona, he just used the power of Ryoji at that point, that power completely leaves him with Ryoji does and he can only ever use it again with fusion
@@arzfan29 Well that isn't even a Thanatos persona, that is a Death shadow. A fully berserk entity with no obedience.
Far as I remember Thanatos is necessary to fuse Messiah, together with Orpheus, so the thematic foundation of his role as a savior builds off of his being a fool that embraced death rather than denying it.
@@arzfan29 Yes I know
But in order to fuse Messiah you need Orpheus and Thanatos respectfully (and let's no forget the amount of promotional material where Thanatos is featured with the Protagonist, instead of Orpheus, poor thing)
So... Yeah! Thanatos and Orpheus both ARE his Personas
I belive Thanatos and Kaguya both fall in the same category of Personas you get for bonding with the human avatars of the final bosses from each game(Ryoji and Marie respectively)
Based take. Funny how many fans don't know there Persona's are brothers. Oh and Akihiko and Shinji Personas as well
Two different kinds of Jesus take on a devil on a bridge
Thanatos and Hypno are brothers, so
Jesus Brothers
@josephmcclintock8996Supposedly a fallen angel which is a technicality for a demon, so yes it is both
@@LucasGamer-yo6zfi think fallen angels are still angels since they arent born demons
@@LucasGamer-yo6zfabandon isn’t a fallen angel he just do edgy stuff
I love how Takaya said Hmmm... So that's your strategy, then proceeded to casually shoot the shadow cause it's the only thing he needs.
my best personas were doing less damage than his revolver 😭
he was like "interesting but have you considered G U N?"
@@randomnobody2145I have. But unfortunately I'm not allowed to use that power just yet.
"you can shoot your Persona out? So can i!!"
"TAKAYA DOOONNTT"
@@randomnobody2145 When Takaya busts out the Neutral Special
Being rescued by Mitsuru and getting the chance to sit on the back of her bike made all of this worth
Not much rescuing but the ride was more then enough to make up for it.
And technically Makoto ride that bike twice. In the anime film, after Fuuka first awakens her Persona. Makoto rides Mitsuru’s bike from the dorm all the way to Tartarus.
“You can *fill me in* on the way back”
SIMP
If you listen closely you can hear Yosuke still crying over his "Close up and personal experience" 🤣
emo jesus meets fentanyl jesus
Lame joke. Wasn’t funny.
@@BornagainvillainLame reply. Wasn't funny.
@@Bornagainvillain Left me breathless, personally.
@@Artemi22 based reply, funny
Probably one of the best additions to Reload. Persona 3 was one of the rare RPGs of the top of my head where the god/entity-based villain(Nyx) was a lot better than the human villains(Strega). Usually in RPGs, the human villains tends to be a lot better and more fleshed out than the god/entity ones.
True but who's complaining
🤣all the villains are garbage in 3 atlus can’t write good villains adachi was the only decent one
@@muzi69Look, I love Adachi as much as the next guy but there's no way you're convincing me that Adachi is above Maruki.
@@muzi69 The villains in 5 were good. Shido only failed cuz Akechi screwed up. And then there's the therapist.
@@ZimVerse Maruki is more of an antagonist than a villain.
A frenemy moment against the Boss!? That's unique!
Having the protag and main bad interact on deep level = win, Atlus realised after 4 and 5
Revolver Jesus being an interesting character as always
I think it’s interesting. It’s cleary based on Abaddon, but mutated and deformed, and it’s not like the Shadows seen since it also lacks a mask, and replaces its two eyes with numerous red ones.
Former Persona. What I want to know is who the fuck actually carried him. If we assume strength is shared across the games, that would be an insanely powerful persona to awaken to.
@@loserinasuit7880 yeah that kinda made no sense tho wouldnt the persona also dissapear if its owner died ?
I think this was a person, In P1 and P2 there were people who turned into demons because they couldn't control their personas, he also dropped an evoker
@nhq4162 There are like several different persona users which are discussed but the specifics aren't really covered. I mean, we saw Medea outside the dark hour. That shouldn't be possible.
@@loserinasuit7880 that is possible, Persona 3 gang can summon their personas in the real world, it's shown in drama CDs, which are canon, a brief moment in The answer and in P4 Arena
Am i the only one that likes this abbadon one hundred times more than the abbadon that is a Head with wings clipping into the ground?
I agree. This one seems to be the standard one that Atlus is going with these days.
Actually prefer this design for Abaddon to the traditional one- it just seems more eldritch and less goofy.
Wait. WE ACTUALLY GET TO INTERACT WITH STREGA!? FUCK YEA😊
Yep. Reload actually gives Takaya way more characterization in his first few appearances than the whole of the original game
Dream team
Emo messiah + Revolver Jesus
I'm still holding to a shred of hope that the Strega personas become usable as DLC
A what if scenario with their corrupt Ultimates...
Thinking about Takaya, I wonder if the reason he doesn't use the evoker for his persona is because he's already deeply accepted that death could come at any moment for him and doesn't need to remind himself via the summoning.
spoilers:
he does use one for his theurgy attack in his final fight, but i think that’s because he wouldn’t be able to use the theurgy otherwise
@@catalyst539Yup. He even says he's throwing away his pride by doing so
Notice Takaya's tattoo on his right arm. It's the Staff of Hermes. God I love Atlus's symbolism and themes!
Damn the new Abaddon design look sick!
Keep in mind this thing drops an Evoker.
That Abaddon was an improperly awakened Persona. A Persona who rebelled against, overwhelmed and devoured his user, reverting to its Shadow state.
Thankfully for Makoto and Takaya, it also seemed to not be as durable as the Abaddon Makoto can fuse.
This was one of my favorite part’s in the game this was something they didn’t have to add but did and they nailed it perfectly
Did Abaddon drop an Evoker? Was it actually a berserk Persona returned to Shadow state after killing its user?
That's possibly what it's insinuating
Might also be what happened to Castor and Shinjiro minus the killing of the user
In the event after Hermit boss 9/7, Takaya explaining the dropped evoker is a prototype to drawing out full extent of a Persona latent power, the cost is difficult to control. Maybe Takaya/Strega also want to find another persona users to join their cause.
SPOILER
It's actually someone's else Persona goes berserk like Strega's. That evoker is a protype use to forcefully summon a Persona at the cost of the Persona being uncontrollable. It's also confirmed that these berserk Persona is basically Shadow shelves, as Takaya mentioned the quote "I'm the Shadow, the true self" when he recalled the experience with the lab.
Honestly the strangest part here is the look Abaddon has, correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to be new or at least very obscure compared to his other designs
You’re correct, this abaddon looks way different to even the abaddon we can summon in game what with the many eyes and blades sticking in its back. I have to wonder, just why this is the case and what does it mean
@@CastersvarogPersona user who lost control of his power.
@@loserinasuit7880
And consumed by his own Shadow. Likely a lab experiment gone wrong.
@loserinasuit7880 if this means that said person had Abaddon as their Persona, boy doni wanna know what THEY were like
Man, I love this addition! Kinda fleshes Tayaka out, letting us know of his motivations and intentions.
Also, it’s kinda weird that the Messiah (Minato) teams up with the Anti-Christ (Takaya) to take down Abbadon.
Never think we see emo jesus & revolver jesus fight together
The screenshot of this scene does make me think Takaya get a Social Link with Makoto. Yet sadly its not 😂
Glad these interactions got added
This scene is just *it* .
Good thing to know that we are now able to interact with Strega and win the respect of Takaya
Grabs head? Screams at sky? Who summons a persona like that?
Honestly as a Persona 3 fan. I have hoped that there would've an alternative in the remake where we could side Strega. Along one other thing i have hope for Ikutski.
this gave me an idea foe an event wit h Yu and Adachi.
I'm 99% sure the inevitable P4 Remake will somehow add Adachi as a support party member for some story moments.
@@Goro_Akechi_Crow I’d fucking love that
Wouldn’t this sort of thing spoil the twist though?
@@shungite8240 not if its after the confrontation
@@mfsalatino Where would it fit? He is not going to help in his own dungeon.
I did this fight using Megido with Black Frost and was floored when he whipped out Megidola, it was so symbolic of their story.
When I was doing this boss, I went with the tarukaja/charge approach, and before I even attacked the shadow, the fight was over
Oh shoot u can play with revolver jesus??
That's just Failbaddon the Harmless lol...until you reach the end of Monad
Wow this game truly broke snd changed sll stablished expectations ✨
I have so many questions...
What's funny is that the protagonist can't even do the finishing blow in this fight, so if you lower its health all the way down, Takaya will do 1 damage as the final hit xD
I feel like Abaddon being here is some kind of clue as to why shadows are different from 3/4 to 5. Unless I missed something specific lore somewhere
What's the name of Takaya's and Jin's Personas? Only Chidori said her Persona's name which was Medea
Hypnos and Moros
Yeah. Takaya has Hypnos and Jin has Moros. Fun fact: if I remember correctly, both Hypnos and Moros are brothers of Thanatos.
I see. Shame they never called their Personas by their names
They do say the names in battle sometimes
@@thesamuraix881 They will sometimes in Reload, when they get the big dramatic cut-ins mainly
i guess my theory that the p3 and p4 shadows are just primitive version of the p5 ones are true, and that shadows evolved to look more like demons
Actually, is because the shadows on the mind take their forms because of how we associate with certain demons, whole the shadows of P3 and 4 are more raw and concentrarse in one place
P5 Shadows are more like a cognitive Shadows. P1 and P2 situations are also based on cognition as well, hence Persona-like Shadows or demons.
I heard it was the reverse. I’m not sure exactly where this comes from, but there’s a theory that shadows were all originally SMT demons, like the ones we see in Persona 1 & 2. During the events of Persona 2 EP, the party fight this god who is connected to all demons because he’s one of the beings who governs the collective unconscious. Basically, the theory goes that after this god is defeated, all of the demons lose their shape and become shadows due to his absence. The theory also suggests that the reason why the shadows are going back to looking like demons in P5 is because the aforementioned god is reviving himself, which was foreshadowed back at the end of P2 as well. Not sure if any of this is actually the intended story, but I think it’s a really cool theory nonetheless and does a good job bringing classic and modern Persona together.
I have another
The reason the shadows in P5 are personas is because of Yaldabaoth taking over the Velvet Room which has a connection to the sea of souls
Yaldabaoth probably corrupted many of the Persona's there and unleashed them upon the world
@@kianschoeman6574but what about P2, isn’t that the shadows also take the form of persona’s the same thing as P5?
This is the closest we get to strega being a playable character
Would've been nice if you could actually do missions where you get to work more with Takaya and his gang.
Just like Akechi.
John Roger and Takaya vs king abaddon
Ngl i like abaddon with this design, feels like a demon than hulk's blobby uncle
Wish they gave Takaya a stat window and let you control him, even if it was just for one fight 😆
Nice same as always 😊
Emo Messiah teams up with Revolver Jesus
Maybe DLC epilogue aigis goes back in time to prevent disaster with shadows from happening but main character never meets everyone
You can warp reality but you can't shape time...check persona q...
So strega and Shinji used reverse persona.
Fazbear
Y'know, I have to wonder how Takaya summons his persona. What goes through his mind to draw upon it's power without an evoker?
I mean... why doesnt p4 and p5 use an evoker?
@MewDenise I mean, they still use some sort of evoker, just in a different way, P4 crushing their Tarot cards, and P5 removing their masks
They still use the support of an object to summon personas
Takaya is still a unique case in that he seemingly gives himself a migrane each time
Y'all never played P1 and P2?
@@ubiratanmagalhaes7013 there are games before Persona 3?
@@daedricwinters2979 SMT fans when they learn that there are numbers before 3:
I think we will get new ending where aigis prevent kirijo group from experiment and nyx never comes
Is this like a social link ? The only persona game i played was persona 3 portable and i am almost at the end i just need to wait until day 30
Not an S. Link, just an unlikely alliance.
Pallete swapped moist critikal
They are better rivals then Akechi and Persona 5 Protagonist for sure.
Was that Shadow a Persona User? He Droped a Evoker too?
I guess that person,strega and Shinji has reversed persona.
You can fight alongside jesus to defeat a vore demon? Count me in instantaniously.
What did abandon drip? Was it a theurgy?
It was a prototype Evoker. Meaning the implication's that it was a Persona gone berserk
This was what I've been looking forward to. Would have really liked if there was an option to join strega
but why
Why tho
but why? its like the accomplice ending in persona 4 golden
@@BloodyHowl69 the whole battle of Ideology between SEES and Strega, if we're completely honest Strega actually won. SEES only comeback was saving the world which due to them fighting the Shadows ended up bringing Nyx.
@@BloodyHowl69 then u can add that there Persona's are basically brothers in Greek mythology. Plus if u join Strega there's no way the full moon Shadows would be defeated and Nyx won't awaken.
Is this side quest or main quest?
Thanks for the spoiler warning in the title and thumbnail...
? this was revealed in screenshots months ago
@@FazPersonaIt was?? I knew there was a link episode and a screenshot of Abaddon on the bridge, but I didn't know of anything else related to it
yeah the screenshot on the bridge. I felt like it was pretty obvious that you'd fight them one way or the other
@@FazPersonaUnfortunately not to me, that might be my bad :(
It'll likely come as even more of a shock to those who haven't seen the screenshot or much promo material, so I'd still recommend changing the title and thumbnail to something more newcomer friendly just in case anyone else finds out this way too.
Jost got passed this part, enjoy your easy win Takay after I debuffed not Abbadon
3:30 is that supposed to be nyarlethotep?
It's Hypnos, Takaya's Persona.
What was the song that played at the outro?
It’s the new song Color Your Night. Some suspect it might be the nighttime theme but I don’t think we know for sure
@@elkapi7764 the game's out... it is
@@elkapi7764 lmao
@@elkapi7764 thanks!!!
@@alexaipaw Ah good to know. I couldn’t find any confirmation and I probably won’t get the game until winter
can we save chidori in this game and is aigis a social link?
Yes to both
Lmao he only did 1 damage to it for me 😭
Because the damage of this Megidola is equal to however much HP the shadow still has
Bro, it's so bizarre, it's like some kind of criminal's honor, if that makes sense... It's still stupid that you don't take out the person who causes you the most annoyance when they are mortal enemies
Maybe his persona senses Thanatos inside Makoto and knows better than to try to take on him alone?
He's likely not important enough to warrant specifically targeting him maybe. Nyx comes and kills anyone anyways so why not.
It's because Strega doesn't actually care about SEES. They're fine with them running around in Tartarus forever. Their only beef with them is because they don't want them to stop the Midnight Hour.
@@24hr-Gaming Hmm, that doesn't make much sense, Strega did care about SEES, that's why they wanted to kill Fuuka, that's why they faced them every so often, they didn't want them to destroy the shadows
@@24hr-Gaming Yes and I think they didn't want them to stop the Dark Hour so Nyx just kills everyone and allows them to commit proxy sudoku.
What's the name of the battle theme playing?
masters of tartarus
Abaddon looks different? Why is that?
And why is he so weak
It's a scripted battle
So MEGIDOLA actually deals the remaining HP huh
And it looks like the boss is scripted to hang on with 1 hp then.
Mine did 1 damage so yeah it was unsatisfying...
i am confused why is abaddon a shadow?
Because it was the persona of someone who lost control of it
Why didn't he shoot the Mc after the battle?
He's hoping that by conversing together, Makoto can see the point of keeping the Dark Hour and letting those be blessed to continue to have their power. Based on how he got his, he doesn't believe that they should be brought back down to the level of the masses. He also thinks that SEES is just following a foolish Messiah complex and wants to figure that out on their own first.
How can I unlock this?
New story progression moments added to Reload.
@@CGrascal thanks, I was thinking that I had to do something to unlock it
How do i unlock this?😊
happens automatically
@@FazPersona ok thank you!
Who the f though this was a good adition to the story?
It’s an interesting idea… but they need to add more to complete such a thing.
Judging by the comments, everyone
It's actually excellent. There's also a new scene where you and Takaya also talk one on one before this happens where he tries to convince you to stand down and is low key warning you about the Kirijo group. And another scene of Takaya and Jin debating if they should break Chidori out of the hospital. Also, there's hidden logs in Tartarus now about the Kirijo Group experiments.