One small thing Reload does better than the others is the cutaway to Ikutsuki's reaction to Thanatos; it shows he's more stunned than the others- given he recognizes it as Death.
Original is still the best by far, the silence and heart beat as everything slows down around Makoto until he finally pulls the trigger and then the way Thanatos just rips open Orpheus like a feral animal was insane on the first playthrough.
@@insertnamehere1398Yeah, like I prefer the actual awakening in the original, prefer Yukari in Reload, and I like the Thanatos part about equally in both. So I'd say it balances out, with the original being just a tiny tad better, but the scene in Reload is still amazing, and I can't wait to get my hands on Persona 3 Reload.
I appreciate how in the movie Orpheus actually does something. Don't think casting a bunch of Agi and setting fire to the dorm roof was the best play, but it was more than screaming before getting ripped open by Thanatos. I'm also impressed by how much body and facial animation Reload managed to cram into this scene. You can really feel exactly what everyone is thinking in every action. Too bad Thanatos doesn't seem nearly as brutal in Reload despite ostensibly doing all the same stuff as in FES.
I miss the ambiguity to the original scene. The rapid flashes, close cameras, the Evoker in the blood, the background being white to focus on the action… and that moment of impact from the evoker being a single frame of impact. Everything was very deliberate, it’s not supposed to be an epic scene, it’s the act of instinct and the chaos of the unknown setting in. Something I especially miss is the Protag’s blank-grey eyes, which in turn make the bright blue shining light much more distinct.
It looked like persona 3 reloaded... Took mostly from persona 3 the movie just from that cutscene... I hope they implement something... That has the characters, atleast the beginning party like persona 5 to react that "holy shit, this new kid who just got here... Can use multiple personas..."
@@spyro-JokerP5old one didn't have that conversation i believe they just went along with "oh he able to use multiple persona okay" Idk about reload one i didn't play it yet
@@SayuAriana i knew old didn't have it... Which is what I was trying to make sure... That he meant reloaded, & not the original... Because then I would of disagreed with him.
2:32 coolest shot in the whole franchise, especially the all red background, and just the way Thanatos just kind of mechanically explodes out of Orpheus.
The original and the movie is the best in my opinion. I do love Reload BUT I think they could have made Thanatos a liiiiiittle bit more feral like the original. That's just me though. Aleks killed it with his scream.
I honestly like the extra details they added in the movie, like the little hesitant fumble Yukari makes when reaching for her evoker, the Shadow choosing to ignore MC and slowly turn to go finish off Yukari, MC being a bit more expressive showing his fear and concern for Yukari, the acceptance of death that washes over him before he pulls the trigger. OG slaps in part due to the prolonged silence and how simple but effective it was at conveying the intensity of the moment. But I can see why Reload copied the movie version, a lot of those extra details are really sweet and make it feel more real in some ways.
In my opinion, remake developers made Awakening in Reload averaged between all previous versions.The driving soundtrack and script basis of the original P3, the general direction of the scene, its high quality and budget from the first film, the use of a cutscene on the engine instead of the anime from Portable. From Reload, the scene contains water motifs (bubbles instead of glass fragments, water reflections on Orpheus and Thanatos) and a more mobile camera, as if synchronized with the movements of the characters (Thanatos especially) in the style of the film Upgrade (2018). Yes, the new version may lack the crazy drive of the anime (after all, hand-drawn animation has huge advantages that 3D graphics are not capable of conveying), but it was able to pull me in and feel the adrenaline boiling inside. Especially at the moment when Thanatos cuts the Shadow's mask. It was spectacular.
I like it more then tbe rest bc the audio is good this time and i can actually see Whats going on screen. Plus the fact that 3D models have more expressions then Fes 2D designs is insane to me
@@dediualex3554 Atlus has changed a lot since P3 came out. New technologies, a larger budget and experience working with cutscenes on the game engine. And all their experiences are now reflected in Reload, which is really cool.
I sure do hate Igor’s new VA in reload tho. It sounds nothing like him( and it doesn’t even have a valid reason like the complaints that Ken’s voice direction got)
yea the people behind the kotone cutscene mod (where that bonus clip is taken from mind you) have been doing a killer job............. cant wait for said mod to be released
Original is still the best. It feels like there is a lot of empty space in reloads one especially with Thanatos, timings just dont feel right. Makotos scream is something else though, love it
I feel like not enough people give credit to how P3P handled it. they were able to work with what they had and make something that, although the most visually inferior, was able to convey the feeling of the original cutscene very well, considering the hardware. honestly prefer it to P3R’s because that one felt intentionally felt intentionally dumbed down.
Thanatos is way more visceral on portable, like the man goes all in an starts ripping apart the shadow with bare hands. A clean cut is nice for montages but it doesn't represent really what Thanatos is. Portable really nailed that
thankfully that bonus clip is gonna be a remedy to that as its from an upcoming mod simply known as the "kotone cutscene mod" which aims to recreate all FES cutscenes but for the FEMC in P3P if im understanding correctly, with various appropriate changes such as of course the hotel segment and the beach segment where you meet aigis since in P3P those scenes were normally different as FEMC, but since to my knowledge each cutscene is being manually remade the relase date of the mod is still unknown and likely a ways out anyways
@@littleguystar and yet that is proven completely false by the numerous other games on the PSP that have cutscenees, arguably in even better quality in some cases so......
@@ARCEUS493ZELDA I completely agree. I mean the Monster Hunter series is on that thing, FFCrisis Core is on it, Tekken 6 is on it. The PSP was ahead of its time in every way, I wholeheartedly believe that Atlus had a time constraint or budget issues of some kind.
@@betuna9487I always thought that P3P was a trial run to see what atlus could do. Turns out, not a lot. My guess was that they were going to try and port P4 to the psp as well, but tried first with P3P to see how much of a success it would be (also not a lot. It flopped in Japan)
I would honestly prefer the fes version to any of the others. The ringing and full stop silence before the music bursts back in with the gunshot is something I really liked and was the reason that I would repeatedly come back to watch this scene on RUclips.
Yeah I LOVE that the MC was more visibly emotional, clearly afraid of the Shadow but also worried about Yukari and wanting to help her. It adds some nice contrast to the moment when he accepts death and grins almost manically before pulling the trigger.
@@SuperGreenSmartie It depends on how refined your palate is. Watching it again, it feels disappointing that they serve something like this in a top-notch cafeteria.
@chr1s415 But thats not her name lmao. Makoto Yuki & Kotone Shiomi. Those are the canon names for the P3 protagonists. Thats like if i said, hey i dont like the name chris. Im gonna call you Timothy.
I like the atmosphere/build up in the og The portable one has my favorite of Thanatos’s raging destruction The movie is the perfect middle ground and enjoyment The reload feels so drawn out and sluggish at times and how they did Thanatos popping out is just worse than the others
The original one is honestly my favorite, but Makoto's scream in Reload had me on the edge of my seat the whole time. I also liked how Reload stayed faithful to Yukari's hesitation to pull the trigger, and Ikutsuki's reaction to Thanatos was also done really well.
Something the original did better than the others is the moments before Makoto pulling the trigger. They instead of putting the background, only draw makoto in a white scene, which is better because that time felt like it was apart from what is actually happening, felt like those 15 seconds were only 2 in real life but because of the adrenaline of the moment we just experienced everything much slower, which is reinforced by the strong heart beats, when they put the background, I can't think other thing than "Seriously the shadow is just waiting to makoto to kill him? because this is getting waaay too long". The other thing is Thanatos, in OG he's fast and wild, that roar wasn't just to show off, he appeared, ripped appart Orpheus and didn't even hesitate to go straight to kill. THAT'S SICK AS F**K. Reload instead, Thanatos appeares but in a more "elegant" way, tooks even more time just to pull out his sword, then for some reason waits 3 seconds doing nothing and then goes to kill the enemy.
Ohhh right yeah i see that, it gives him a more majestic air to it rather than scary tbh which yeah, would be pretty odd, especially for older fans. @@adrianw.7164
I think the OG had the strongest shot of the Evoker going off, but I feel that the movie's take on Thanatos appearing was just SO GOOD. Reload was clearly trying to emulate the movies, but it honestly just comes off as a cheap imitation.
Gonna be honest, I like P3P's Thanatos *kill* more. The rapid bludgeoning makes it feel like an animal. That said, the others do literally everything else better, including stuff with Thanatos. Wish Reload had its Yukari, FES' Hesitation and rapid cuts, maybe the movie's use of Orpheus, maybe not, Fes' thanatos scenes, and when it comes to finally killing the shadow, P3P's bludgeon.
personally I prefer the original to the movie the movie one looks much more like a modern anime, while the original has more of a hand drawn early 2000s look, which is just more appealing imo portables is the worst, and reloads is pretty decent but I still prefer the original
@@TheBirdsDenAt last in the movie Orpheus was in fact able to put up a fight. In the game he's like "Hi im your Pers- *GETS FUCKING OBLITERATED BY THANATOS* "
Something i dont get is, Yukari treatment. In FES she pulls the trigger twice and gets off 2 Garus. Yuki sees that and thats how he gets the idea of how to use the evoker. But every other version has yukari fail to cast anything, making her look worse and having yuki use the evoker seem more random.
That’s what’s happening? I couldn’t even tell, it looked more like the shadow attacking than Garu Fes animation is great but in reload and the movie it’s a lot easier to tell what’s actually happening which I appreciate lol
I liked reload version's more if im being honest lol i only ever played p3 portable and the others are stiff due to it being dated, the movie one is decent but reload is so pretty with the colors too.
The Thanatos ripping out of Orpheus scene in Reload just looks too much like Skibidi toilet animation to me idk I can’t bring myself to like it 😭the rest is fine I just feel the 2D animated versions had more room for creative animation like that
I think the original is the best, then the movie, reload then portable. I think the whole scene is just layed out better in the original, in terms of timing, the scene order, the different shots, ya the movie had better visuals objectively, the original I feel has so much flair and eye catching shots that I can’t not love it more I like the direction reload went, I think the dialogue is better in the original tho, and the animation looks goofy as hell, ruins a lot of tension for me, I wish they didn’t move so damn much and actually maintained balance, it’s like how you see spider man acting, but he acts that way cause he is in a suit with no eyes or mouth, so they have to do a lot of physical acting, here it looks off Portable’s is garbage tho, genuinely made me wanna cry when I first saw it, very pathetic
Yeah, I gotta agree. Do forgive me for how this may sound, but honestly, the people saying that others dislike one scene out from a pretty stellar game because of 'nostalgia blindness' are kind of just as bad as the people getting mean and harassing others for liking reloaded. I've seen plenty of comments from other comparison videos (including this one) of people who like the reloaded version of Thanatos awakening, but have understandable criticisms of it, like Thanatos sounding rather quiet and a bit of awkward animation here and there, as well as some comments who do like the original but admit that reloaded did do some things right (like Yukari's hesitance, Ikutsuki's reaction, etc). It's not as black and white as they think it is.
A lot of people in these comments are acting as if the good sound direction and feeling of the fes version excuses the REALLY REALLY stiff animation in most of the fes version, it doesn't it looks janky and the way Yukari is sent flying is weird, the only thing that gets any proper movement is Thanatos, which mind you is great. Also lets face it the atmosphere these scenes (and most of p3's anime scenes) dont match the actual tone of the game most of the time. That being saidthe fes version is still decent but I wouldnt put it above the movie nor the Reload versions, which animate Magician far better, alongside Thanatos and the rest. The only version thats actually bad is p3p, but well nothing you can do there.
Cause Fes is the best one. Fluidity and pure animation quality is secondary to framing, posing, scene composition and choreography. None of the other versions hit for the tone of the scene quite as much as FES in those 4 aspects.
@@alphax-shroom6781 What choereography, everyone stands there and doesn't move also the fact that you can brush off all the other stuff just shows your not being objective. Good tone doesnt excuse an otherwise bad production.
The movement may look janky but the shots are way better and the colors are really striking, making the mood of the CG way more tense and darker for the build up. It shows what it needs to show, basically. Reload's animation looks way jankier in comparison because it shows _way too much_ and the 3d simply dosen't look as good as the stylized 2d of the original. Also wdym they don't match the tone of the game most of the time? That's a weird point to just throw out there without any elaboration, especially taking into account we're talking about one scene in specific and not the rest of the games
Reload manages to be worse than the original and it's not close. It takes cues form the movie, and I think that makes it worse, such as the shadow turning to attack Yukari, which I don't think is necessary, and the less satisfying animation of Thanatos. And of course, the fact that it isn't animated. I'm not sure if I like the movie one or the reload one better, but at least they're both way better than portable
So many of the shots linger for seconds longer than needed too, so it feels less punchy. It also seems like they lowered the music volume, so the whole cutscene is quiet and awkward. All that, and the way Yukari just gets bitch slapped and how the shadow stands around in front of them for 10 seconds.
They have too many wide shots, the og cutscene is very conservative with the wide shots having mainly closed shots and only using wide shots for striking moments. Wide shots are normally very flat and boring if you don't have a good direction, which is a problem with a lot of anime and 3d animation.
As much as I like the original version and think that it captures the very nature of not only Thanatos but the Protagonist, I really love the Reload iteration. We need to remember that it’s a nearly 20 years old game that was launched in different era and this franchise was not as easily accessible to masses as it is today. Depictions of suicide & mental health issues and violence are now more widely discussed although it’s still a very dark topic. A lot of people who have no idea about this franchise will be getting into this game so that’s why some of the aspects of it needed to be “toned down” (example Thanatos looking less aggressive) to appeal to the wider audience. I understand that and agree with that approach. I also agree with statement that Reload is a balanced mix of all versions.
Woah, I hadn't play in the FES version, once tried the portable one which is available on PC, but I get it right it's not playable on modern PC. What a downgrade comparing with the FES.
the "bonus" clip shown is apparently from a work in progress mod made purely from the fans that aims to recreate all the cutscenes from FES, but for the FEMC with appropriate changes accordingly (such as the love hotel scene and the beach segment where u meet aigis) release date to my knowledge has yet to be disclosed however
Yeah same (new fan to get the people who say it’s just nostalgia away) played portable in anticipation for reload and honestly the vast majority of the original Va’s and soundtrack sound better to me, the cutscenes and gameplay are better in reload (albeit if the cutscenes are 2D some of the 3D like this one are kinda worse as well)
Good lord, was the original cutscene hard to follow! And I'm already enough of a scatterbrain as is, but watching the original summoning is like watching a Michael Bay movie IN REVERSE!! Fes, stop the ride, I wanna get off!
Reload feels like a worse version of the movie. They should've just went 2D if they wanted to replicate everything 1:1. Or incorporate things from the portable version. Movie ver doesn't hit the same in 3D.
I have to say this, and I might get hate for this... That's what persona 5 did SO MUCH BETTER, than persona 3 & 4... They game just goes on... Without really saying "holy shit! You have multiple personas" persona 5... You team was surprised... And that's why I love persona 5 & royal so much... The core gameplay isn't just their... It's apart of the story. & Yes, you can argue in persona 3 they knew from the beginning because, of Thanatos coming from Orpheus... But to me that's just lazy & not the same feeling... Persona 4 didn't even bother mentioning it, just "you wield the power of persona"...
@@crowkoraki6910 I played the others, I just don't remember them saying It in persona 3 & 4 if it was said. They are on my channel... I haven't played reloaded yet, but I will soon.
P5 dosen't mention the wild card as much either. It gets brought into question like, once, during the tutorial portion where Morgana and Ryuji find out about it, then later on as an excuse to let you go alone into the colosseum in Sae's palace. That's it really.
One small thing Reload does better than the others is the cutaway to Ikutsuki's reaction to Thanatos; it shows he's more stunned than the others- given he recognizes it as Death.
I wouldn't say it does "better" than the other renditions, but it's definitely a nice touch that's somewhat unique to this version
The original version is the best but goddamn Makoto screaming in Reload goes hard
well that is Alex lek's aka Zenitsu from Demon Slayer XD
Aleks Le.
@@WeaponXemcailcalled it
The man that doesn’t miss
@@Koro-g5x
Yeah.
thanatos straight up throwing HANDS at the shadow in the portable versions 💀
"FIGHT BACK! FIGHT BACK!!!"
“Come outside I swear I won’t jump you”
5 seconds later:
if there’s one thing the portable has on the other versions, it’s the shadow getting its shit ROCKED by thanatos
@@YellowCloversTHEY JUMPING ME
The “Thou art I and I am thou” from P3P sounds like those toys that can talk when you press their hand
You have invoked a new desire of mine for an Orpheus plush which says "I am thou, thou art I" when squeezed.
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@@SlitherWingConnoisseur damn dude. Love the idea
Original is still the best by far, the silence and heart beat as everything slows down around Makoto until he finally pulls the trigger and then the way Thanatos just rips open Orpheus like a feral animal was insane on the first playthrough.
Reload did some really cool things too. It felt like you could FEEL Yukari. Even more then the 2d animation. It felt RAW.
@@insertnamehere1398Yeah, like I prefer the actual awakening in the original, prefer Yukari in Reload, and I like the Thanatos part about equally in both. So I'd say it balances out, with the original being just a tiny tad better, but the scene in Reload is still amazing, and I can't wait to get my hands on Persona 3 Reload.
Honestly yeah, none of them get close to being as good as the original
@@greatsaiyaguy8868not close is mad I’m sorry the new one is just better and the ost for it is Amazing
Tbh it's kinda pointless compare both since they are made in different mediums (anime/3d)
I appreciate how in the movie Orpheus actually does something. Don't think casting a bunch of Agi and setting fire to the dorm roof was the best play, but it was more than screaming before getting ripped open by Thanatos. I'm also impressed by how much body and facial animation Reload managed to cram into this scene. You can really feel exactly what everyone is thinking in every action. Too bad Thanatos doesn't seem nearly as brutal in Reload despite ostensibly doing all the same stuff as in FES.
True that the Movie ver showed the best of Orpheus as much as they could wich is why i love it so much
I mean you use Orpheus against the remains of the Reverse Magician in gameplay so he always does something.
The use of agi in the movie helps showcase the fact that makoto was inexperienced in the persona mechanics, tho
I miss the ambiguity to the original scene. The rapid flashes, close cameras, the Evoker in the blood, the background being white to focus on the action… and that moment of impact from the evoker being a single frame of impact. Everything was very deliberate, it’s not supposed to be an epic scene, it’s the act of instinct and the chaos of the unknown setting in. Something I especially miss is the Protag’s blank-grey eyes, which in turn make the bright blue shining light much more distinct.
the movie execute thanatos scene perfectly in my opinion, with him being in front of the full moon while roaring is just perfect way to introduce him
It looked like persona 3 reloaded... Took mostly from persona 3 the movie just from that cutscene...
I hope they implement something... That has the characters, atleast the beginning party like persona 5 to react that "holy shit, this new kid who just got here... Can use multiple personas..."
@@chaoscontroller4489 the new game (reloaded) or older ones? Because if it's the new game... I hadn't played yet...
@@spyro-JokerP5old one didn't have that conversation i believe they just went along with "oh he able to use multiple persona okay" Idk about reload one i didn't play it yet
@@SayuAriana i knew old didn't have it... Which is what I was trying to make sure... That he meant reloaded, & not the original... Because then I would of disagreed with him.
@@spyro-JokerP5 ohhh I see sorry
I find it cool that the Reload version is based on the movie version. Yukari getting slapped, the camera movement, Yuki's scream, it's all there.
Same with Shinji's cutscene. Damn near identical to the movie mid way through.
I think it's really cool (especially as somebody who loves the movies), but it comes off as a cheap knockoff in how it was actually executed.
2:32 coolest shot in the whole franchise, especially the all red background, and just the way Thanatos just kind of mechanically explodes out of Orpheus.
Portable diegetically transitioning the awakening into the battle is cool as hell mgl
The original and the movie is the best in my opinion. I do love Reload BUT I think they could have made Thanatos a liiiiiittle bit more feral like the original. That's just me though. Aleks killed it with his scream.
I always forget how much inspiration Reload took from the movies
I honestly like the extra details they added in the movie, like the little hesitant fumble Yukari makes when reaching for her evoker, the Shadow choosing to ignore MC and slowly turn to go finish off Yukari, MC being a bit more expressive showing his fear and concern for Yukari, the acceptance of death that washes over him before he pulls the trigger. OG slaps in part due to the prolonged silence and how simple but effective it was at conveying the intensity of the moment. But I can see why Reload copied the movie version, a lot of those extra details are really sweet and make it feel more real in some ways.
In my opinion, remake developers made Awakening in Reload averaged between all previous versions.The driving soundtrack and script basis of the original P3, the general direction of the scene, its high quality and budget from the first film, the use of a cutscene on the engine instead of the anime from Portable. From Reload, the scene contains water motifs (bubbles instead of glass fragments, water reflections on Orpheus and Thanatos) and a more mobile camera, as if synchronized with the movements of the characters (Thanatos especially) in the style of the film Upgrade (2018).
Yes, the new version may lack the crazy drive of the anime (after all, hand-drawn animation has huge advantages that 3D graphics are not capable of conveying), but it was able to pull me in and feel the adrenaline boiling inside. Especially at the moment when Thanatos cuts the Shadow's mask. It was spectacular.
I like it more then tbe rest bc the audio is good this time and i can actually see Whats going on screen. Plus the fact that 3D models have more expressions then Fes 2D designs is insane to me
@@dediualex3554 Atlus has changed a lot since P3 came out. New technologies, a larger budget and experience working with cutscenes on the game engine. And all their experiences are now reflected in Reload, which is really cool.
I sure do hate Igor’s new VA in reload tho. It sounds nothing like him( and it doesn’t even have a valid reason like the complaints that Ken’s voice direction got)
@@insertnamehere1398what happened to Igor's original VA?
@skywoofyt5375 Igor's original Japanese VA died, but his English VA is still alive. I guess they just wanted to match the change.
10:14 omg FeMC with the eyes looks terrifying!
yea the people behind the kotone cutscene mod (where that bonus clip is taken from mind you) have been doing a killer job............. cant wait for said mod to be released
@@ARCEUS493ZELDAHey, how’s the progress on that coming?
It looks amazing.
the original is too RAW to be outshined by anything else
I like how in the movie , Thanatos doesn't immediately takes over , so when it does , is more surprising
Original is still the best. It feels like there is a lot of empty space in reloads one especially with Thanatos, timings just dont feel right.
Makotos scream is something else though, love it
I feel like not enough people give credit to how P3P handled it. they were able to work with what they had and make something that, although the most visually inferior, was able to convey the feeling of the original cutscene very well, considering the hardware. honestly prefer it to P3R’s because that one felt intentionally felt intentionally dumbed down.
Thanatos is way more visceral on portable, like the man goes all in an starts ripping apart the shadow with bare hands. A clean cut is nice for montages but it doesn't represent really what Thanatos is. Portable really nailed that
Yeah I agree
The way Pharos says “Go On” in Reload is so much better but original is still so much better
I was disappointed FeMCs awakening didn't have an animated cutscene...
thankfully that bonus clip is gonna be a remedy to that as its from an upcoming mod simply known as the "kotone cutscene mod" which aims to recreate all FES cutscenes but for the FEMC in P3P if im understanding correctly, with various appropriate changes such as of course the hotel segment and the beach segment where you meet aigis since in P3P those scenes were normally different as FEMC, but since to my knowledge each cutscene is being manually remade the relase date of the mod is still unknown and likely a ways out anyways
The curse of being on the PSP. There wasn’t any storage space for it even if they did want to make a cutscene.
@@littleguystar and yet that is proven completely false by the numerous other games on the PSP that have cutscenees, arguably in even better quality in some cases so......
@@ARCEUS493ZELDA I completely agree. I mean the Monster Hunter series is on that thing, FFCrisis Core is on it, Tekken 6 is on it.
The PSP was ahead of its time in every way, I wholeheartedly believe that Atlus had a time constraint or budget issues of some kind.
@@betuna9487I always thought that P3P was a trial run to see what atlus could do. Turns out, not a lot. My guess was that they were going to try and port P4 to the psp as well, but tried first with P3P to see how much of a success it would be (also not a lot. It flopped in Japan)
The Movie Has the best version to me
Agreed
Agreed as well
I would honestly prefer the fes version to any of the others. The ringing and full stop silence before the music bursts back in with the gunshot is something I really liked and was the reason that I would repeatedly come back to watch this scene on RUclips.
Me fes and movie version they both really good
Yeah I LOVE that the MC was more visibly emotional, clearly afraid of the Shadow but also worried about Yukari and wanting to help her. It adds some nice contrast to the moment when he accepts death and grins almost manically before pulling the trigger.
I think it’s interesting that visually, Reload’s version is mostly derived from the movie, minus Orpheus’s attack on the shadow.
I think the problem with Reload is watering down so many things that it feels like drinking coffee without caffeine
Still a damn good cup of coffee though! Just missing a bit of the ol’ bite to it.
@@SuperGreenSmartie It depends on how refined your palate is. Watching it again, it feels disappointing that they serve something like this in a top-notch cafeteria.
So they made a fan animated cutscene for minako? Thats awesome!
Kotone*
@@obarasama I prefer minako
@chr1s415 But thats not her name lmao.
Makoto Yuki & Kotone Shiomi. Those are the canon names for the P3 protagonists. Thats like if i said, hey i dont like the name chris. Im gonna call you Timothy.
@@RenniganEagle ok
I'm still gonna call her minako
I like the atmosphere/build up in the og
The portable one has my favorite of Thanatos’s raging destruction
The movie is the perfect middle ground and enjoyment
The reload feels so drawn out and sluggish at times and how they did Thanatos popping out is just worse than the others
In my opinion, the movie had the best scenes of them all. 13:13 That scene was cold as fuck 🥶
Nothings ever gonna top the original but the Movie and Reload are really close.
The original one is honestly my favorite, but Makoto's scream in Reload had me on the edge of my seat the whole time. I also liked how Reload stayed faithful to Yukari's hesitation to pull the trigger, and Ikutsuki's reaction to Thanatos was also done really well.
Something the original did better than the others is the moments before Makoto pulling the trigger. They instead of putting the background, only draw makoto in a white scene, which is better because that time felt like it was apart from what is actually happening, felt like those 15 seconds were only 2 in real life but because of the adrenaline of the moment we just experienced everything much slower, which is reinforced by the strong heart beats, when they put the background, I can't think other thing than "Seriously the shadow is just waiting to makoto to kill him? because this is getting waaay too long".
The other thing is Thanatos, in OG he's fast and wild, that roar wasn't just to show off, he appeared, ripped appart Orpheus and didn't even hesitate to go straight to kill. THAT'S SICK AS F**K.
Reload instead, Thanatos appeares but in a more "elegant" way, tooks even more time just to pull out his sword, then for some reason waits 3 seconds doing nothing and then goes to kill the enemy.
Persona 3 movie Makoto awakening is absolutely amazing.
Persona 3 Reload is a close second.
Thanatos in Reload do T-Pose is less 'imposing'/'menacing' for me, dunno why
uh... where?
@@skywoofyt5375 when Thanatos come out of Orpheus, he just like T-posing there, not going like 'berserk'
Ohhh right yeah i see that, it gives him a more majestic air to it rather than scary tbh which yeah, would be pretty odd, especially for older fans. @@adrianw.7164
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It's very subtle, but you can see in Reload how Ikutsuki gets flustered by watching Death in person.
the only part that makes reload's inferior is thanato's movements.
Just compare 2:33 to 18:18
Also the lack of the heartbeat
orpheuses body looks less jerky and wild and looks kinda goofy in reload
im not sure why they animated it like that. it made it feel like atlus didnt even make it to begin with
I think recreating that in 3D woulda been hell for them anywyas
@@hungrybeans4097they both look goofy to me
Are y’all blind? It looks fine
I think the OG had the strongest shot of the Evoker going off, but I feel that the movie's take on Thanatos appearing was just SO GOOD.
Reload was clearly trying to emulate the movies, but it honestly just comes off as a cheap imitation.
Is it just me, or at 14:55 can anyone else see a small face screaming the darkness that is Thanatos’s mouth?
There are 4 persona 3s:
P3
P3FES
P3P
P3RE
bonus Persona 3 being the 4 movies making that 5
Mfers be like “I like Persona 3”
My brother in Christ, which one???
What about P3D?
Man the original is still the best.
They tried translating it into 3D with Reload but it just doesn't nail the same feeling.
I was hoping the magician shadow was gonna be a tutorial boss not a cinematic
Thanatos just glitching back into orpheus in the original gave me chills
Gonna be honest, I like P3P's Thanatos *kill* more. The rapid bludgeoning makes it feel like an animal. That said, the others do literally everything else better, including stuff with Thanatos.
Wish Reload had its Yukari, FES' Hesitation and rapid cuts, maybe the movie's use of Orpheus, maybe not, Fes' thanatos scenes, and when it comes to finally killing the shadow, P3P's bludgeon.
personally I prefer the original to the movie
the movie one looks much more like a modern anime, while the original has more of a hand drawn early 2000s look, which is just more appealing imo
portables is the worst, and reloads is pretty decent but I still prefer the original
Wdym how can you not love Thanatos beating the shit out of the shadow
The original is the best but reload is a very close second
When you summon a level 80 persona at level 1
2:34 me trying to wiggle out a shirt that's now too tight for me
The Remake tries to Replicate the Movie a bit more than just the game what with how they animated Thanatos ripping out of Orpheus
Where did the blood came from in original?????😱😱😱😵😵🥶🥶🥶💀💀💀💀💀
My personal favorite is the movie version.
To me, movie has the best pathos hands down
Reload is brilliant, but I like original
I will never get why they based the reload one on the movie one instead of fes..
Movie > OG > Reload > Portable
you are insane if you think the movie version is better.
@@TheBirdsDenAt last in the movie Orpheus was in fact able to put up a fight. In the game he's like "Hi im your Pers- *GETS FUCKING OBLITERATED BY THANATOS* "
@@ZA-TRUE-ZA-WARUDO I fail to see how that has anything to do with anything but sure, go off.
@@TheBirdsDen what type of meth do you use? 💀
@@TheBirdsDen i think its better because of that.
I love og awakening persona 3/fes and the movie
Something i dont get is, Yukari treatment. In FES she pulls the trigger twice and gets off 2 Garus. Yuki sees that and thats how he gets the idea of how to use the evoker. But every other version has yukari fail to cast anything, making her look worse and having yuki use the evoker seem more random.
That’s what’s happening? I couldn’t even tell, it looked more like the shadow attacking than Garu
Fes animation is great but in reload and the movie it’s a lot easier to tell what’s actually happening which I appreciate lol
No, it's the Magician Shadow attacking. You can tell by the same attack appearing before Yukari is knocked down.
She never cast anything fym?
I liked reload version's more if im being honest lol i only ever played p3 portable and the others are stiff due to it being dated, the movie one is decent but reload is so pretty with the colors too.
😮😮😮😮😮 is there a female version of the movie? How? Or is this fan made? So cool!
It's fan made for a mod in the making that's gonna add animated CGs into Portable.
The Thanatos ripping out of Orpheus scene in Reload just looks too much like Skibidi toilet animation to me idk I can’t bring myself to like it 😭the rest is fine I just feel the 2D animated versions had more room for creative animation like that
I think the original is the best, then the movie, reload then portable.
I think the whole scene is just layed out better in the original, in terms of timing, the scene order, the different shots, ya the movie had better visuals objectively, the original I feel has so much flair and eye catching shots that I can’t not love it more
I like the direction reload went, I think the dialogue is better in the original tho, and the animation looks goofy as hell, ruins a lot of tension for me, I wish they didn’t move so damn much and actually maintained balance, it’s like how you see spider man acting, but he acts that way cause he is in a suit with no eyes or mouth, so they have to do a lot of physical acting, here it looks off
Portable’s is garbage tho, genuinely made me wanna cry when I first saw it, very pathetic
All versions are very GOD. Dont fight
Yeah, I gotta agree. Do forgive me for how this may sound, but honestly, the people saying that others dislike one scene out from a pretty stellar game because of 'nostalgia blindness' are kind of just as bad as the people getting mean and harassing others for liking reloaded. I've seen plenty of comments from other comparison videos (including this one) of people who like the reloaded version of Thanatos awakening, but have understandable criticisms of it, like Thanatos sounding rather quiet and a bit of awkward animation here and there, as well as some comments who do like the original but admit that reloaded did do some things right (like Yukari's hesitance, Ikutsuki's reaction, etc). It's not as black and white as they think it is.
Thantos animation in reload after breaking Orpheus felt kind of choppy, idk, everything else was smooth though
Virgin Reload < Chad Original
Yea Reload is by far the best 🔥
映画版の映像化が良すぎてところどころリロードに逆輸入されてますやん
OG is the best overall, Reload is close, Film is pretty decent, and Portable's would've been better it it was stuck on the PSP lol
A lot of people in these comments are acting as if the good sound direction and feeling of the fes version excuses the REALLY REALLY stiff animation in most of the fes version, it doesn't it looks janky and the way Yukari is sent flying is weird, the only thing that gets any proper movement is Thanatos, which mind you is great.
Also lets face it the atmosphere these scenes (and most of p3's anime scenes) dont match the actual tone of the game most of the time.
That being saidthe fes version is still decent but I wouldnt put it above the movie nor the Reload versions, which animate Magician far better, alongside Thanatos and the rest.
The only version thats actually bad is p3p, but well nothing you can do there.
Cause Fes is the best one. Fluidity and pure animation quality is secondary to framing, posing, scene composition and choreography. None of the other versions hit for the tone of the scene quite as much as FES in those 4 aspects.
@@alphax-shroom6781 What choereography, everyone stands there and doesn't move also the fact that you can brush off all the other stuff just shows your not being objective. Good tone doesnt excuse an otherwise bad production.
The movement may look janky but the shots are way better and the colors are really striking, making the mood of the CG way more tense and darker for the build up. It shows what it needs to show, basically.
Reload's animation looks way jankier in comparison because it shows _way too much_ and the 3d simply dosen't look as good as the stylized 2d of the original. Also wdym they don't match the tone of the game most of the time? That's a weird point to just throw out there without any elaboration, especially taking into account we're talking about one scene in specific and not the rest of the games
Reload manages to be worse than the original and it's not close. It takes cues form the movie, and I think that makes it worse, such as the shadow turning to attack Yukari, which I don't think is necessary, and the less satisfying animation of Thanatos. And of course, the fact that it isn't animated. I'm not sure if I like the movie one or the reload one better, but at least they're both way better than portable
I do really like way Yukari grabs her evoked and shakes around with it. It’s immaculate But that’s the best I can say aboutnit
So many of the shots linger for seconds longer than needed too, so it feels less punchy. It also seems like they lowered the music volume, so the whole cutscene is quiet and awkward.
All that, and the way Yukari just gets bitch slapped and how the shadow stands around in front of them for 10 seconds.
They have too many wide shots, the og cutscene is very conservative with the wide shots having mainly closed shots and only using wide shots for striking moments. Wide shots are normally very flat and boring if you don't have a good direction, which is a problem with a lot of anime and 3d animation.
Straight to the point unlike the anime which stays more than it really needs to just for spectacle
@@insertnamehere1398
Yes.
RU gonna do Episode Aigis/The Answer comparison too?
@@JohnLee-dp8ey they’re already all up on my channel
The original is still the best to me, Reload unfortunately isn't as impactful IMO.
As much as I like the original version and think that it captures the very nature of not only Thanatos but the Protagonist, I really love the Reload iteration. We need to remember that it’s a nearly 20 years old game that was launched in different era and this franchise was not as easily accessible to masses as it is today. Depictions of suicide & mental health issues and violence are now more widely discussed although it’s still a very dark topic. A lot of people who have no idea about this franchise will be getting into this game so that’s why some of the aspects of it needed to be “toned down” (example Thanatos looking less aggressive) to appeal to the wider audience. I understand that and agree with that approach. I also agree with statement that Reload is a balanced mix of all versions.
Lol. It doesn't
@@obarasama
It does.
Woah, I hadn't play in the FES version, once tried the portable one which is available on PC, but I get it right it's not playable on modern PC. What a downgrade comparing with the FES.
Apparently they lost the code for FES...
the "bonus" clip shown is apparently from a work in progress mod made purely from the fans that aims to recreate all the cutscenes from FES, but for the FEMC with appropriate changes accordingly (such as the love hotel scene and the beach segment where u meet aigis) release date to my knowledge has yet to be disclosed however
My honest opinion:Persona 3 original version has the best performance and voice acting.
Yeah same (new fan to get the people who say it’s just nostalgia away) played portable in anticipation for reload and honestly the vast majority of the original Va’s and soundtrack sound better to me, the cutscenes and gameplay are better in reload (albeit if the cutscenes are 2D some of the 3D like this one are kinda worse as well)
"Original still the best☝️🤓"
YES! YES! YES!
Good lord, was the original cutscene hard to follow! And I'm already enough of a scatterbrain as is, but watching the original summoning is like watching a Michael Bay movie IN REVERSE!!
Fes, stop the ride, I wanna get off!
Reload feels like a worse version of the movie. They should've just went 2D if they wanted to replicate everything 1:1. Or incorporate things from the portable version. Movie ver doesn't hit the same in 3D.
You know, Reload's may be bad, but I forgot just how horrible the portable version was
Nostalgia pilled people here will actually say the original does it better. Simply crazy to me
Bruh
No nostalgia it's just better
I have to say this, and I might get hate for this... That's what persona 5 did SO MUCH BETTER, than persona 3 & 4... They game just goes on... Without really saying "holy shit! You have multiple personas" persona 5... You team was surprised... And that's why I love persona 5 & royal so much... The core gameplay isn't just their... It's apart of the story.
& Yes, you can argue in persona 3 they knew from the beginning because, of Thanatos coming from Orpheus... But to me that's just lazy & not the same feeling...
Persona 4 didn't even bother mentioning it, just "you wield the power of persona"...
Persona 3 mentions it quite a bit
And this is how you know the only persona game he played is 5 😆😆😆
@@crowkoraki6910 I played the others, I just don't remember them saying It in persona 3 & 4 if it was said.
They are on my channel... I haven't played reloaded yet, but I will soon.
@@crowkoraki6910 if you read my comment... I even explained why I don't agree with how persona 3 "supposibly" said it...
P5 dosen't mention the wild card as much either. It gets brought into question like, once, during the tutorial portion where Morgana and Ryuji find out about it, then later on as an excuse to let you go alone into the colosseum in Sae's palace. That's it really.
Reload is really trash… yikes
portable is the worst persona game ever