I noticed that Atlus changed Shinjiro’s death scene to be more like the movie instead of the original persona 3. In reload, he dies in Akihiko’s arms like the movie, but in the original game he just walks away before falling to the ground and dying
Really? I’ve never had the chance to play the games and I’ve only watched the movies several times, in a way I kinda like that, everything about this mirrored the movie like perfectly. Which I suppose makes it more cinematic. I wonder if the video game way was better
@@nikuhsay1323 I always liked how he walks away before dying a bit more. It felt like it was more fitting for Shinji's character to act like he can still have the strength to stand and walk even in the literal final seconds of his life
@@lowke8444At the same time, after getting shot Twice I don't think Shinji would even be able to stand given his health, and him dying in Akihiko's arms is fucking Tragic. I think the New Death just hits you like a Semi-Truck.
I didn't realize until now after watching this scene in game that they changed Shinji's death to be more like how it was in the movie. Honestly I'm ok with it, but I see why people may prefer the original. I think the scene was very well done for Reload. So hard to watch, especially in the ENG sub version.
I really felt for Ken. He's just a kid pretending to be an adult, but he has such a wrong idea of what it means to be mature. He pushes his friends away, tries to distance himself from the things he secretly likes. I see that, and it makes me sad because you only get to experience your childhood once; when it's gone, it's gone forever.
That's what kids do. If everyone knew what to do and how to solve every problem, then Gen Z wouldn't be such a failure, but nevertheless, Ken learns the hard way what life really is. Don't feel guilty for him because he's made his own choices and got someone killed for it. Now Ken can really man up
I always thought it was clear from if you talked to him, he was very distant and keep in mind he's a 10-11 year old kid. In Reload if you do his link event you learn that he takes care of a hamster and right before this happens he makes you promise to take care of it. He wasn't planning on coming back.
This is tearing me up, I am glad however that they kept it closer to the movie’s and added a few things, I allways thought that the extra detail of ahi jiro landing on top of Ken and kens hand to be quite literally “blood stained” was a good detail
I really hope the added emotional scene here prevents people from hating on Ken too much 😭 He's still a kid, and you can't really reverse things that already happened. He can only learn from there
@@Darth_Bateman Most of us disliked him bc of his subpar moveset. His kit in Reload is a significant overhaul. He feels good to add to the party now :)
my first run of this (reload is my first P3 experience), I was chatting with some friends and, right before Shinji got shot the first time, commented "well, maybe if you stopped monologuing, you could've already shot him"--my hubris from P4G and P5R welling up at the thought of SEES saving Shinji and Ken in a nick of time. then he got shot once, and it was a little funny from the prior moment. I jokingly remarked "man, P3 does not fuck around." then Shinji died. man... Persona 3 does not fuck around.
@@dilflordsupreme9051you're blinded by recency and trying to justify your 70 dollar purchase for the same game. Admit it, his voice is too deep and doesn't fit the character.
I didn’t cry in the original, but the Akihiko memorial scene after this made me bawl. This scene also made me tear up, but the Akihiko memorial scene is fucking heartbreaking
While instead of anime cutscene like in vanilla P3 and FES, the way Shinjiro died is a little different compared to what was seen in vanilla P3 and FES.
I knew this was coming and it still made me ball my eyes out. Just finished his death and the following days after and I just had to put the game down for tonight. I played P3P, P3FES and now P3R and not a single time did I not ball my eyes out. Shinji is the coolest character by far, has the skill set I prefer (physical + charge) and his Theurgy was so goddamn sick! I just unlocked his Auto Heat Riser ability and the next day he dies…like, yeah I appreciate the time I had with him but now I just got all his equipment back…at least lemme use his axe in memory of him :c (Also yes hellbiker but I’m around lvl 50 and not 65)
STRAIGHT UP. It's so annoying how she KNEW the whole time that Shinjiro had accidentally killed Ken’s mom. But she still let Ken join, and then nobody later calls her out on that very questionable decision.
@@ClassyCorgi no one knew their history. Only Akihiko was aware of what happened, but Mitsuru should've realised that keeping secrets causes more problems than solving them.
Thank god people have enough braincells to realize this. Either her or Akihiko should have just talked to him. Doing the link story and having him insist that I take care of his hamster because he didn't plan to come back it's like bro.
I think I like Takaya's original dialogue better, his twisted logic comes as malicious in this. In the original game he says: "So, you have achieved resolution! How enviable… Then, you shall be first. Rest peacefully… " Pretty similar, but in the original he sounds like he genuinely believes that he's is doing Ken a favor, made me realize how batshit insane he was. While in this version comes out just as straight evil.
Reload botches Takaya's characterization, imo. That extra bit of dialogue they added as a response to Mitsuru before you fight him in Adamah just undermines his charisma and motivation.
@@petergriscom3431 To be fair…Takaya’s extremely evil, that much is undeniable. And frankly, it make sense for him to break down a little, since his line of logic is just…wrong. Proven by the MC.
@@goroakechi6126 We already know his world view opposes ours from the fact that he's trying to cause the fall. It always seemed to me that he knew he was dealt a bad hand in life, and that he decided to seize his fate by abusing his potential, fulfilling the destructive desires of others, and eventually forming the Nyx cult to seize everone's fate. To have him suddenly get all vindictive over the Kirijo group is such a modern writing trope (especially the way they worded it), it doesn't fit his characterization of being master of his own fate, like he now regrets where he ended up instead of reveling in the fall. It's also compounded by the modern Persona writing of having him obsess over the MC, showering him in the same special attention everyone gives him. It reminds me of how the script rewrite for Nocturne HD saw fit to change the context of Isamu's character, making him come off as weak instead of sly in the Amala Temple.
As someone that is entirely new to the story, on my first play through of P3R, I am loving it. Til I got to this part. It made me tear up a little as I loved Shinji as a character. He was a total badass and had a good heart. I can’t wait to progress through the story! Disclaimer: This is my second ever Persona game. My first being Royal.
I beaten the OG and cried tons. Voice acting for akihiko speaking to the coffin was amongst the best voicework I have ever seen. The remake made Aragaki mucj more memorable. The garden hangout gives a shot for you to answer "we will have the memories" and it struck me hard seeing Aragaki speaking about memories with Ken.
I played FES and Portable, so have known this beforehand ...And I still cry like a river in this scene, and it's not only scenes that I drop tears, f*** you Atlus
@@ndDavilos yes, but it's not as easy as in the dark hour, at least that's the vibe i always got. I don't know if there's anything that says one way or the other. However, counterpoint, Fuuka only did so in P4A. Counter to my own counterpoint, Mitsuru is implied to do it in the sauna scene when you get caught, so, who fucking know
@@robertlopez7888Late response but apparently, it only heals peoole who're unconscious. Watch the scene on 11/22 with Junpei and Chidori to find out what would've happened if Yukari did that
Damn... You live is how you die... To take a life is to give your own.... Live by the sword, die by the sword... That's why Aragaki_san was stained in "Blood". He couldn't ever get over it...
Funny thing Is I got a hint a death was coming, but it was for Ahikio instead. This was my first time playing so I tried avoiding any other info but eventually I got too curious about if that was true and looked into it. Then found Shinjiro's as a result, thanfkully I did'nt have any context for it outside of a thumbnail. This scene was very well done and the events that followed ontop of it, I did not expect Ken to have started the whole sequence at all.
I knew it was unlikely but I was REALLY hoping the remake would let Shinji live. He was my favorite of the P3 cast and I wanted him on my team the whole game.
This is what makes me think reload Ken is one of the best written characters I've seen. He has such a good arch with a unique problem of trying to be an adult and grieving over the loss of so many people. Its funny that hes the most mature in the group with bad situations after this scene. Not to mention that his theurgy is literally protecting everyone he loves. Dudes story almost immediately affects gameplay
Guys, I gotta ask. Why the hell didn't Yukari, Aegis, or even Makoto heal Shinjiro? And please don't say something stupid like "Everyone arrived too late to act." or "Aragaki wanted to go out like that"
@@twiilit_ You mean to tell me the shadows, the creatures that are capable of killing people, can only inflict light cuts and bruises? My point is, why did nobody try?
@@Osiris2994 evidently so. Actual gun did more damage then we ever see a Shadow do. There also might be a difference when you are in active battle mode with your Persona ready, Shinji was ready to die to Ken here anyway and so wasn't ready to fight. As for why they didn't try thats just the power of the JRPG cutscene. Its been that way for decades now, you can have all the Revives, Phoenix Downs, or whatever else you want, but when the cutscene gods decides its time for a character to die thats just how it goes.
@@BloodyHowl69 Gonna be honest, shinji was better than junpei skill wise during the time he was present. He always did crazy damage and got hella crits. Just my opinion tho
I thought Strega kill Shinjiro for no reason But I just found out that Shinjiro kill a nurse by accident in Dark Hour while he went berserk. That nurse is a girl who save Jin's childhood friend (a Persona user with no-name weak Persona). So that Strega were asked to revenge Shinjiro (That nurse could be Ken's mother)
It doesn't excuse what Takaya did though. Also, I doubt any member of Strega is old enough to have been childhood friends with someone who had an eleven-year-old son. Have a little common sense.
It's similar to how the modern Final Fantasies rule it: the healing spells reinvigorate the body and revival the unconscious, not the dying or deceased.
@@terrorbillywilly7918 Either Takaya's bullets are very special, or it's a situation where the Personas help them resist whatever Shadows throws at them to a certain point. I can't imagine Diarahah regrowing an arm or an eye, or a hole in your chest.
@KoroCB you might be half right there. We never know if it's the user that's taking the damage head on or their persona jumping in front of them at the last minute
Yeah it’s unavailable he dies no matter what the only version of the game where he lives is in persona 3 portable where if you play as a girl and romance him he gets saved by a watch or something and is put in a coma till the end of the game
This scene destroyed me emotionally. I’ve played through every iteration of P3 and watched the movies. This scene never gets easier to watch. And the acting here was really good too.
Went back and watched this in the og, my goodness the voice acting in the og P3 is kinda cheeks. This is so much better I’m in awe that there are people who say p3 voices are better.
I wonder why no one here is complaining about the fact that Shinji is being removed right after you get him in the game. Dont get me wrong i think story wise this scene was greatly presented to us very impactful and emotional good and anti cliche to kill of a somewhat main character. But poorly designed gameplay wise. Shinji is the last character joining the bunch having to play 20+ hours at least to get him to join back, his impact in the accomplishments of the main crew are basically none and after around 1-2 hours of playtime with him he is taken away from me. If he was one of the first ones to join this death wouldnt have bothered me, if he was able to put in your team postgame no problem either, if there was a way to save him like in FES (never played it but i heard he was) thats fine too. But deciding to make him join right before his death is poor decision making especially because his impact in rejoining was almost not existent he was brought back just to be killed off. Besided Ken he was the character i looked forward to the most to have in my team, such a pitty that devs keep having bad ideas.
I don't think it's bad at all. It's supposed to be unexpected for the most part and this game doubles down on him being really strong by giving him those new passive skills. He is only able to help you with 1 moon boss and then whatever amount of Tartarus you have at the time then he's gone. So for gameplay it might be a shame he's only available for a short duration but that just goes hand in hand with the story elements surrounding him. I know in Portable you could use him for those monad doors as they were accessible in the lobby from the start. Haven't beaten reloaded yet so not sure if they added something like that in NG+
What's more is that shinji's role as a physical attacker with the strike attack type is sorely needed even after he dies. Idk man I just wanted his kit to be taken up by someone else
Ken's VA killed the mood with that cry. It starts out sounding so gutteral and turns into a goofy ass cry. They did a much better job in selling it in the original audio.
While this scene is still sad as fuck. The fact that its an fmv instead of an anime cutscene reduces the impact of it alot for me. They'll animate yukari taking a shower or the girls in swimsuits but not this ? Ok sure atlus
I think the fact you need the scene to be animated to have an impact speaks more about you than anything else, the scene was done beautifully in this version, it didn't need to be 2D to be incredible
Yeah I completed disagree, honestly I don’t think the anime short sequences really add anything to the game. This cut scene is much better and keep in with the games tone.
@@supremeleaderfrancisco9062 that's completely preference, what exactly is the problem with the 3d models looking clean? I personally don't think they look uncanny when zoomed in.
why is the dialogue so much weaker in the remake? it's like they got paid to slightly change all the wording and it's so much worse :/ also shinji died on his feet in OG, way more in character. what is going on here? it's like the direction got all messed up.
The dialogue in Reload is actually closer to JP version script, it was the og that has tweaks here and there. I personally find two versions hit just as hard tho.
In a way, I agree that the OG walk off death was way cooler, but it is fitting for Shinji to die in Akihiko's arms. Also love that he got one last Koromaru pet in before kicking the bucket.
I noticed that Atlus changed Shinjiro’s death scene to be more like the movie instead of the original persona 3. In reload, he dies in Akihiko’s arms like the movie, but in the original game he just walks away before falling to the ground and dying
Really? I’ve never had the chance to play the games and I’ve only watched the movies several times, in a way I kinda like that, everything about this mirrored the movie like perfectly. Which I suppose makes it more cinematic. I wonder if the video game way was better
@@nikuhsay1323 I always liked how he walks away before dying a bit more. It felt like it was more fitting for Shinji's character to act like he can still have the strength to stand and walk even in the literal final seconds of his life
@@lowke8444At the same time, after getting shot Twice I don't think Shinji would even be able to stand given his health, and him dying in Akihiko's arms is fucking Tragic.
I think the New Death just hits you like a Semi-Truck.
If they made FeMC and Shinji fall to her arms, I'm gonna cry.
I didn't realize until now after watching this scene in game that they changed Shinji's death to be more like how it was in the movie. Honestly I'm ok with it, but I see why people may prefer the original. I think the scene was very well done for Reload. So hard to watch, especially in the ENG sub version.
eventhough he was in the verge of death, he stills pet koro-chan's head... after 18 years, and i still cry over this scene :(
I really felt for Ken. He's just a kid pretending to be an adult, but he has such a wrong idea of what it means to be mature. He pushes his friends away, tries to distance himself from the things he secretly likes. I see that, and it makes me sad because you only get to experience your childhood once; when it's gone, it's gone forever.
That's what kids do. If everyone knew what to do and how to solve every problem, then Gen Z wouldn't be such a failure, but nevertheless, Ken learns the hard way what life really is. Don't feel guilty for him because he's made his own choices and got someone killed for it. Now Ken can really man up
Ok but are we gonna ignore the fact that Ken was gonna commit a murder suicide, like holy fuck I did not remember that fact about this scene
He doesn't have the balls
I always thought it was clear from if you talked to him, he was very distant and keep in mind he's a 10-11 year old kid. In Reload if you do his link event you learn that he takes care of a hamster and right before this happens he makes you promise to take care of it. He wasn't planning on coming back.
@@24hr-Gamingholy fuck you’re right
Wwe fans call it: the benoit effect.
He does also mention it in the Original. Or rather Takaya eludes to it.
Man... more than 20 years and it still hurts
It's been 18 years.
it's been 17@@fennekinflames7095
I somewhat had hope that we could play FeMC and reverses it to a comatose state.
yeah, he lives in FeMC and come back to her in her final moments if you romanced him.
😱Ken Said Shut Up!!!!😱
4:37
Damn he drops the f bomb in this one? Nice.
For real?
Ryuji should take notes
I think it was a really good addition given his character. Really added to the weight of the confrontation between Takaya, Shinjiro, and Ken.
@@I_Eated_The_Soapryuji paved the way in strikers for F bombs in persona lol
Formidibomb?
"Cast Recarm!" Thousands of voices pleaded, but they fell upon the uncaring ears of the cruel Cutscene Gun.
They managed to make it hurt even harder
Koromaru getting in one last pet i cried
We all did…😢
He tries his hardest to smile when he sees koromaru but bleeding out quickly wipes it off his face
They really did this scene justice, I also just like the nice subtle touch of Fuuka giving Ken her support
Shinjiro Aragaki: August 11, 1991 - October 4, 2009
This is tearing me up, I am glad however that they kept it closer to the movie’s and added a few things, I allways thought that the extra detail of ahi jiro landing on top of Ken and kens hand to be quite literally “blood stained” was a good detail
Glad to see they took inspiration from the movie version
I really hope the added emotional scene here prevents people from hating on Ken too much 😭
He's still a kid, and you can't really reverse things that already happened. He can only learn from there
People were hating on Ken??? Are they stupid?
Honestly, I hated Ken because the voice acting was terrible @@Darth_Bateman
@@pseudorandom2444I liked his old VA sounded like jimmy neutron
@@Darth_Bateman Most of us disliked him bc of his subpar moveset. His kit in Reload is a significant overhaul. He feels good to add to the party now :)
@@Xxsorafan GOTTA BLAST! 😂
Poor Ken... This gave me chills like I was experiencing it for the fist time again after 10 years. The voice acting is so powerful...
Unironically his new voice actor did a fantastic job. Genuinely her performance deserves praise
Previous versions: Crap!
Reload: Bullshit!
Damn they made a 10 year-old willingly use adult language! Even, for a rated 17 game!
I think it shows how Ken is more mature than he appears also it just shows more emotion than crap
☠️Shinjiro Aragaki… Is Dead!☠️
9:01
When you have Shinjiro and you made him level up to max.. and suddenly he died 🫡
Okay but can we give props to ken's new English voice actor. This is genuinely one of the best performances ive ever seen
Justine Lee nailed it in this game.
Might be a hot take but imo Ken's voice acting in this scene is so much better than the fes version, he sounds much stiffer in fes
@@animegamelover6368 late as fuck response but yea she absolutely nailed it
The fact that takaya could look an elementary school kid and try to shot him is wild to me, he is just a kid(mature for his age but still a kid!)
Makoto during this whole horrific incident: 😐
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO
my first run of this (reload is my first P3 experience), I was chatting with some friends and, right before Shinji got shot the first time, commented "well, maybe if you stopped monologuing, you could've already shot him"--my hubris from P4G and P5R welling up at the thought of SEES saving Shinji and Ken in a nick of time. then he got shot once, and it was a little funny from the prior moment. I jokingly remarked "man, P3 does not fuck around."
then Shinji died. man... Persona 3 does not fuck around.
I thought Akihiko's new VA would suck but holy shit he's very appropriate
Some sentences aren't nearly as great, but he isn't all too bad.
His voice acting is good but it just doesn’t fit the character
@@Drv379You’re blinded by nostalgia
He absolutely kills it in his Resolution cutscene.
@@dilflordsupreme9051you're blinded by recency and trying to justify your 70 dollar purchase for the same game. Admit it, his voice is too deep and doesn't fit the character.
7:00
Yoo Shinji said the F word
Holy shit....
Hahahah, thx
Dang, that caught me off guard
@@BardockSkywalker Almost as bad as Ryuji says the F Bomb in P5 Strikers?
I didn’t cry in the original, but the Akihiko memorial scene after this made me bawl. This scene also made me tear up, but the Akihiko memorial scene is fucking heartbreaking
7:00 Thank you, Shinji. For saying what I wanted to, every time I talked to Takaya.
Koro just make this scene hits worst ( in a sad way)
It made the impact more painful - Koro-chan was grieving him.
There is a comand room recording showing their friendship
@@720pchannel AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@@720pchannel that part is exactly why they're together as a duo in p4au
While instead of anime cutscene like in vanilla P3 and FES, the way Shinjiro died is a little different compared to what was seen in vanilla P3 and FES.
That's because this is based on the movie's version
These kinda scenes are way better than anime cutscenes imo, they look so good
I knew this was coming and it still made me ball my eyes out. Just finished his death and the following days after and I just had to put the game down for tonight. I played P3P, P3FES and now P3R and not a single time did I not ball my eyes out. Shinji is the coolest character by far, has the skill set I prefer (physical + charge) and his Theurgy was so goddamn sick!
I just unlocked his Auto Heat Riser ability and the next day he dies…like, yeah I appreciate the time I had with him but now I just got all his equipment back…at least lemme use his axe in memory of him :c
(Also yes hellbiker but I’m around lvl 50 and not 65)
I was literally crying to this part
Same here. You’re not alone…😢
They really had to go and make Koromaru nudge Shinjiro’s hand and have Shinj pet Koro for one last time..?
And then the howl?
Shinjiro's death wouldve been prevented if Mitsuru didnt keep secrets.
STRAIGHT UP. It's so annoying how she KNEW the whole time that Shinjiro had accidentally killed Ken’s mom. But she still let Ken join, and then nobody later calls her out on that very questionable decision.
@@ClassyCorgi no one knew their history. Only Akihiko was aware of what happened, but Mitsuru should've realised that keeping secrets causes more problems than solving them.
They straight up said Shinji was gonna die regardless if Takaya or Ken intervened. Those suppressants were gonna catch up to him anyway
well, it would just delay his death, shinji was going to die soon regardless thats why he didnt care too much.
Thank god people have enough braincells to realize this. Either her or Akihiko should have just talked to him. Doing the link story and having him insist that I take care of his hamster because he didn't plan to come back it's like bro.
Man, I know we're better off not having the "cmon kid, you're just a kid" voice line, but a part of me was waiting for it
I think I like Takaya's original dialogue better, his twisted logic comes as malicious in this. In the original game he says: "So, you have achieved resolution! How enviable… Then, you shall be first. Rest peacefully… " Pretty similar, but in the original he sounds like he genuinely believes that he's is doing Ken a favor, made me realize how batshit insane he was. While in this version comes out just as straight evil.
Reload botches Takaya's characterization, imo. That extra bit of dialogue they added as a response to Mitsuru before you fight him in Adamah just undermines his charisma and motivation.
@@petergriscom3431
To be fair…Takaya’s extremely evil, that much is undeniable. And frankly, it make sense for him to break down a little, since his line of logic is just…wrong. Proven by the MC.
@@goroakechi6126 We already know his world view opposes ours from the fact that he's trying to cause the fall. It always seemed to me that he knew he was dealt a bad hand in life, and that he decided to seize his fate by abusing his potential, fulfilling the destructive desires of others, and eventually forming the Nyx cult to seize everone's fate. To have him suddenly get all vindictive over the Kirijo group is such a modern writing trope (especially the way they worded it), it doesn't fit his characterization of being master of his own fate, like he now regrets where he ended up instead of reveling in the fall. It's also compounded by the modern Persona writing of having him obsess over the MC, showering him in the same special attention everyone gives him. It reminds me of how the script rewrite for Nocturne HD saw fit to change the context of Isamu's character, making him come off as weak instead of sly in the Amala Temple.
As someone that is entirely new to the story, on my first play through of P3R, I am loving it. Til I got to this part. It made me tear up a little as I loved Shinji as a character. He was a total badass and had a good heart. I can’t wait to progress through the story!
Disclaimer: This is my second ever Persona game. My first being Royal.
I beaten the OG and cried tons. Voice acting for akihiko speaking to the coffin was amongst the best voicework I have ever seen.
The remake made Aragaki mucj more memorable. The garden hangout gives a shot for you to answer "we will have the memories" and it struck me hard seeing Aragaki speaking about memories with Ken.
I played FES and Portable, so have known this beforehand
...And I still cry like a river in this scene, and it's not only scenes that I drop tears, f*** you Atlus
I got the feeling it was deja vu all over again
Re carm!! Re carm!!!
Story and Gameplay Segregation
...Right, Aerith?
@@Ramsey276oneaerith : if only this remake can let him survive 😢
That's one thing I wished they changed, have the Dark Hour end before he dies but after he gets shot, that way it makes sense no one tries to heal him
Personas aren’t exclusive to the Dark Hour. Fuuka summons hers outside of the Dark Hour sometimes
@@ndDavilos yes, but it's not as easy as in the dark hour, at least that's the vibe i always got. I don't know if there's anything that says one way or the other. However, counterpoint, Fuuka only did so in P4A. Counter to my own counterpoint, Mitsuru is implied to do it in the sauna scene when you get caught, so, who fucking know
This scene was intense enough, tears were already streaming.
But everytime i heard Koro-chan whimper i choked up. And the howl killed me 😭
Scene hits hard, no matter which version you play.
_Shinjiro Aragaki has died._
(Ken Amada has cried)
Koromaru(Probably): Please don't leave me with Fuuka's cooking!
"Dammit, Yukari. Bust out a Dia or something here!"
@@Skymarine64000 wonder how Dia supposedly works if it can't heal wounds like those
It can't??? How about recarm???
@@Skymarine64000 I don't know I'm asking the same questions lol
@@robertlopez7888Late response but apparently, it only heals peoole who're unconscious. Watch the scene on 11/22 with Junpei and Chidori to find out what would've happened if Yukari did that
11:00 Koro-chan PTSD
Q_Q
Damn... You live is how you die... To take a life is to give your own.... Live by the sword, die by the sword... That's why Aragaki_san was stained in "Blood". He couldn't ever get over it...
Damn this goes so fucking hard
Best emotional scene ever
"Fortune set someone's death in motion as a last gasp... It clearly didn't have to be immediate."
Funny thing Is I got a hint a death was coming, but it was for Ahikio instead. This was my first time playing so I tried avoiding any other info but eventually I got too curious about if that was true and looked into it. Then found Shinjiro's as a result, thanfkully I did'nt have any context for it outside of a thumbnail. This scene was very well done and the events that followed ontop of it, I did not expect Ken to have started the whole sequence at all.
I knew it was unlikely but I was REALLY hoping the remake would let Shinji live. He was my favorite of the P3 cast and I wanted him on my team the whole game.
The theme of P3 is Death
That *it happens*
they'll have to suck it up and make the femc route for that to happen
You mean pull some sort of Final Fantasy VII Reunion timeline rewrite?
@@fierytigergaming8112i actually thought reload would’ve gone that route would’ve been nice
@@fierytigergaming8112thank god that didnt happen
11:21 I know it isn't appropriate, but damn, does Aki have some nice lashes.
Oh god it's gotten even SADDER!!!!
Here it goes my party carry member. I will miss to do 2k crit damage to bosses with him :c
I pulled of 6.5k on a Tartarus boss
No way... this is the movie's version?
Yeah
@@martinez718
Minus the part where Ken dropped his spear as he lost his will to live.
Shinji: Drops the F-Bomb.
Takaya: And I took that personally.
This is what makes me think reload Ken is one of the best written characters I've seen. He has such a good arch with a unique problem of trying to be an adult and grieving over the loss of so many people. Its funny that hes the most mature in the group with bad situations after this scene. Not to mention that his theurgy is literally protecting everyone he loves. Dudes story almost immediately affects gameplay
the hood lost a real one today (quite literally)
The added Koromaru is what killed me
So this is how they balanced him in game
Bro made it even worse for the players to handle 😭😭😭😭
What caliber was that revolver for it to 2 tap the 2nd strongest guy on the team 💀
Guys, I gotta ask.
Why the hell didn't Yukari, Aegis, or even Makoto heal Shinjiro? And please don't say something stupid like "Everyone arrived too late to act." or "Aragaki wanted to go out like that"
there's a big difference between being knocked out and dying
@@twiilit_ I didn't ask why nobody had cast Recarm; I asked why didn't they heal him
@@Osiris2994 it's a similar deal. healing spells help with cuts and bruises, not so much with two gunshot wounds
@@twiilit_ You mean to tell me the shadows, the creatures that are capable of killing people, can only inflict light cuts and bruises? My point is, why did nobody try?
@@Osiris2994 evidently so. Actual gun did more damage then we ever see a Shadow do. There also might be a difference when you are in active battle mode with your Persona ready, Shinji was ready to die to Ken here anyway and so wasn't ready to fight. As for why they didn't try thats just the power of the JRPG cutscene. Its been that way for decades now, you can have all the Revives, Phoenix Downs, or whatever else you want, but when the cutscene gods decides its time for a character to die thats just how it goes.
Unfortunately the power of the fuck word wasn't powerful enough to protect him.
.......H-Happy birthday Nanako
Man, they killed Shinji off.
Again......
good. I didn't particularly care for the character considering he was another phys dps character. better stick to junpei
@BloodyHowl69 heartless fools like you don't deserve to comment
Hopefully the femc gets added so he gets a chance
His death is one of the best moments in the game, it would kinda be cheap if they got rid of it
@@BloodyHowl69 Gonna be honest, shinji was better than junpei skill wise during the time he was present. He always did crazy damage and got hella crits. Just my opinion tho
I thought Strega kill Shinjiro for no reason
But I just found out that Shinjiro kill a nurse by accident in Dark Hour while he went berserk. That nurse is a girl who save Jin's childhood friend (a Persona user with no-name weak Persona). So that Strega were asked to revenge Shinjiro
(That nurse could be Ken's mother)
It doesn't excuse what Takaya did though.
Also, I doubt any member of Strega is old enough to have been childhood friends with someone who had an eleven-year-old son. Have a little common sense.
Where do you get those uniform? In the game after some times or the dlc?
After Fukka joins
How did you get the lip syncing in the cutscenes? Every other video I've seen doesn't have it.
nooo they killed shimki :(
its a canon event
Did you see that Shinji
@@athrunmoza8996 did you see that shimki
I really that some dlc update helps him become a permanent party member like in P3P.
He wasnt a permanent party member in p3p
@@Riftdancer527 You could use him in extra challenges
I wanted to play it but they messed up the SEA version 😢
What’s the difference for the sea version?
@@Riolu1209 they shipped out a version that was actually in Mandarin. Not everyone in SEA speaks Mandarin, of course, so they messed up big time
Koromaru made this scene a lot more depressing…😢
Am I mistaken for wondering why they didn't use diarahan? Or does that not work on bullet wounds
It's similar to how the modern Final Fantasies rule it: the healing spells reinvigorate the body and revival the unconscious, not the dying or deceased.
Diarahan wasn't healing a golf-ball-sized hole
@superninja_youtube so, severe burns, frost bite, blunt force trauma, pierce damage and being smited by a thunder bolt from god?
@@terrorbillywilly7918 Either Takaya's bullets are very special, or it's a situation where the Personas help them resist whatever Shadows throws at them to a certain point. I can't imagine Diarahah regrowing an arm or an eye, or a hole in your chest.
@KoroCB you might be half right there. We never know if it's the user that's taking the damage head on or their persona jumping in front of them at the last minute
call it a slaughter because he was the GOAT
I got here trying to draw
this is beside the point, but i was expecting ken to be shorter than this.
No recarm? 😔
THIS IS WHY WE NEED FEMALE MC 😭
So.. i cant save him? (I don't know the game, i ve started it last week)
no.
Shinjis death is unpreventable :
Yeah it’s unavailable he dies no matter what the only version of the game where he lives is in persona 3 portable where if you play as a girl and romance him he gets saved by a watch or something and is put in a coma till the end of the game
My man got spoiled on one of the biggest moments in the game
Man you should not watch this first, this is one of iconic moments in P3
Hopefully you didn't spoiled yourself further with the rest
Thank god they fixed the voice acting
Bro.😂
This scene destroyed me emotionally. I’ve played through every iteration of P3 and watched the movies. This scene never gets easier to watch. And the acting here was really good too.
Went back and watched this in the og, my goodness the voice acting in the og P3 is kinda cheeks. This is so much better I’m in awe that there are people who say p3 voices are better.
why do you do this dism at least wait a few days
koromaru howling is so cringe and ruins the scene, couldn't let ken have his moment
Ken: I was gonna kill myself but I couldnt face my mother if i did
Also Ken: so anyways, after i kill you i was gonna kill myself
I always interpreted it as him not being able to face her if he left her death unavenged.
He couldn't face her if he died without holding the one who killed her responsible.
PLEASE ATLUS LEMME PLAY FEMC SO I CAN SAVE MY BISEXUAL EMO BOY
I wonder why no one here is complaining about the fact that Shinji is being removed right after you get him in the game. Dont get me wrong i think story wise this scene was greatly presented to us very impactful and emotional good and anti cliche to kill of a somewhat main character. But poorly designed gameplay wise. Shinji is the last character joining the bunch having to play 20+ hours at least to get him to join back, his impact in the accomplishments of the main crew are basically none and after around 1-2 hours of playtime with him he is taken away from me. If he was one of the first ones to join this death wouldnt have bothered me, if he was able to put in your team postgame no problem either, if there was a way to save him like in FES (never played it but i heard he was) thats fine too. But deciding to make him join right before his death is poor decision making especially because his impact in rejoining was almost not existent he was brought back just to be killed off. Besided Ken he was the character i looked forward to the most to have in my team, such a pitty that devs keep having bad ideas.
I don't think it's bad at all. It's supposed to be unexpected for the most part and this game doubles down on him being really strong by giving him those new passive skills. He is only able to help you with 1 moon boss and then whatever amount of Tartarus you have at the time then he's gone. So for gameplay it might be a shame he's only available for a short duration but that just goes hand in hand with the story elements surrounding him. I know in Portable you could use him for those monad doors as they were accessible in the lobby from the start. Haven't beaten reloaded yet so not sure if they added something like that in NG+
What's more is that shinji's role as a physical attacker with the strike attack type is sorely needed even after he dies. Idk man I just wanted his kit to be taken up by someone else
Ken's VA killed the mood with that cry. It starts out sounding so gutteral and turns into a goofy ass cry. They did a much better job in selling it in the original audio.
buhuu go cry about it
@@gamerbeast3616 free speech and it's consequences
@@gamerbeast3616 Cry about what? You being toxic?
While this scene is still sad as fuck. The fact that its an fmv instead of an anime cutscene reduces the impact of it alot for me. They'll animate yukari taking a shower or the girls in swimsuits but not this ? Ok sure atlus
Man the anime cutscenes aren’t really that great to begin with so I was very fine with this.
I think the fact you need the scene to be animated to have an impact speaks more about you than anything else, the scene was done beautifully in this version, it didn't need to be 2D to be incredible
Yeah I completed disagree, honestly I don’t think the anime short sequences really add anything to the game. This cut scene is much better and keep in with the games tone.
@@flaminginferno6641 the 3d models are too clean they like kinda uncanny when zoomed in on as well
@@supremeleaderfrancisco9062 that's completely preference, what exactly is the problem with the 3d models looking clean? I personally don't think they look uncanny when zoomed in.
why is the dialogue so much weaker in the remake?
it's like they got paid to slightly change all the wording and it's so much worse :/
also shinji died on his feet in OG, way more in character.
what is going on here? it's like the direction got all messed up.
The localization i guess? The Japanese dialogue are still same as original just have few more word
It's based off the P3 Movies which changed some stuff.
"Weaker" bro this is the only version i can give a shit about Ken and take him seriously 🤣
The dialogue in Reload is actually closer to JP version script, it was the og that has tweaks here and there.
I personally find two versions hit just as hard tho.
In a way, I agree that the OG walk off death was way cooler, but it is fitting for Shinji to die in Akihiko's arms. Also love that he got one last Koromaru pet in before kicking the bucket.
So you can't save him.
You fucked up, Atlas
ah yes, atlus fucked up because they dont want to shit on what's supposed to be the theme of the game. What a very clever comment
@@elBossmano People just love Shinji and hate how he died. An option would be nice. But alas
ATLAS
Atlas lmao.
@@istandidol Who is people? His death is one of the most hard hitting moments in the game