It's really cool now Strega member can now coordinate their battle strategy. Making the boss fight more interesting. Guess we better step up our game plan now
@@PhantomEnderium yeah, that’s why I specifically meant teams. The other Persona users are cool, but they don’t have any “strategies” since they don’t have a team to work with
They really should, imagine a persona team that, since they are backed by the big bad, have a lot more resources and are way better at fighting than the protagonists Maybe have them be defeated by exploiting the fact that they are coworkers rather than friends
One of my favorite tropes is when the villain is monologuing about grandiose ideals and crap but the hero just shuts them down with "I don't care. You need to be stopped, and that's all there is to it."
7:38 maaan... that shot of Hypnos with the full moon on their back is so cool, I wished it was like a Magatsu Izanagi type of deal and we coud get Hypnos as a persona
I can oddly enough see him being a social link due to how many times you encounter him outside of the dark hour, Jester/Hunger somewhat fitting him as an arcana for the social link, and your reward for maxing him out being Hypnos
Just had this fight, and while it was about as easy as I remember from FES, the fact that they can Shift is a super, super cool thing that they didn't have to add. When I saw that, it made me really happy for some reason.
Not that difficult, but they're definitely not pushovers unlike the Original game. Now I like them even more, along with the fact that they already have their own side story. EDIT: Now, imagine if you kill Takaya first, and Jin is able to cast Recarm/Recarmdra.
When I played this game I had Ken in my party and he was knocked down and Takaya used his basic attack (a.k.a just shooting him in the face ) and the attack reflected … That must have been awkward
I feel like that's important to remember when regarding their strength canonically as opposed to just in-game mechanics. They only have half the number of combatants as you and they hold their own really well, especially in this version of Persona3. 1 on 1, they probably outmatch every member of SEES besides Makoto.
@@brendansage6876Also, Takaya and Jin are very good at sniping weaknesses here. Once one of them goes down, the other goes ballistic and actively snipes weaknesses mercilessly
@@ClearmindArtist I assume we're talking about different versions of Persona3? if you're two-shotting them in P3R, you're either extremely overleveled, playing on Safety difficulty, or BS'ing us. In Reload they've got proper boss health, especially compared to the o.g. game. I mean, look at the damage dealt to them in this video.
They still don't look to be _too_ insane to beat, but the fact that Strega is actually a challenge is a big improvement. They almost downed Mitsuru and Yukari multiple times and took roughly 10 minutes to beat, where before they'd be lucky to get you to half health on anything besides Hard Difficulty, and if the fight took more than 2 minutes you took an insane amount of time to beat them. I also love the fact that they can Shift to each other, which really helps the image that Strega is an inverted, evil counterpart to SEES. Jin also looks to be way tougher than Takaya in this fight. Did he have flashbangs and shock grenades in the original game? Those things looked deadly as hell, and he was taking less damage than Takaya for the most part.
@@angel_aeon I just checked the SMT wiki, and for the fight on the Moonlight Bridge in P3 FES Jin/Moros know the skills Mudo, Mudoon, Maragion, and Tarukaja, and that's it. So basically the only thing he has to damage you outside of his frag grenades (no flashbangs or shock grenades, the wiki confirmed it) are two IK skills that he needs to pray to Nyx that he lands and a move that deals medium fire damage to all enemies, which is alright, but it's basically his only good move, lol.
@@brendansage6876 in FES, there is still not information about this game in the wiki. I tried to look for the ultimate weapons, armors and accessories, but there is still nothing outside of FES.
@@kyo0001 Oof, unlucky team comp for that fight. Although I love that they actually are as threatening in gameplay as they are in the lore now. I'm coming up on that battle now and I'm excited to get my ass beat by them because they were so easy before that it was sad.
I did a FES playthrough where I intentionally underleveled, and Takaya is definitely no pushover. You pretty much have to bring as many Null/Repel/Absorbs as you can fit on a Persona, then pray he doesn't Mind Charged Megidola you, or just gun crit your MC. The Hanged Man boss fight afterwards is one of the few things keeping me from recommending people try a low-level challenge of P3, because it takes about 3 hours to whittle its health down on a successful attempt.
This fight is so weird, I buffed Makoto so hard to do a 2400 damage Scarlet Havoc theurgy and it dealt like 10% of the hp, and then they just instadied from some almighty 1800 damage charged attack. If it was supposed to prevent me from skipping some of their stages then it didn't really worked
@@axceljulio5747 There are literally evil persona users scattered throughout persona 1 and 2. The VERY first boss of the FIRST persona game IS an evil persona user. You don't need to wait for persona 6 if you want that
Oh thats cool I didn't know they could switch, jin went down like a sack of potatoes so i never got to see it. I was only playing on hard, team was aki, ken and mitsuru
I'm astonished that people are actually calling this fight easy. So far it has taken me about 2 hours to try and beat these guys and STILL no luck. Am I underleveled or something?
I play physic/critic gameplay so this fight for me was too easy koromaru just use revolution hit a critic with ken and use the physical theurgy and bum i one-shot killed jin with 1000 danage that's crazy bro
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the fact they can switch is so cool
too bad this is literally the only fight in the game that has it
@@victord8866Wait really? Lmao what
@@victord8866 Well I hope the DLC makes up for it...
Baton passing before it was cool.
…That is, in the Persona universe they did, lol.
"So, us experiments can't even stand up to a naturally awakened Persona..."
Or maybe its because it was a 4v2
Nah, it's because the homeless man couldn''t afford to buy a shirt or the DLC for their very own Satanael for $4.99
lets not forget takaya took cheap shots whenever he could
5v2 including Fuuka providing support.
Not to mention that one of those guys had the power of the Wild card.
@@theanonymouschicken169he spent the money on the revolver lmao
It's really cool now Strega member can now coordinate their battle strategy. Making the boss fight more interesting. Guess we better step up our game plan now
Yeah, they were too easy the last time I played
@@high440 that's what I said lol
I mean they're still easy cuz they're only 2 of em, if u had chidori with them then it'd be a party
I really like how the moment Fuuka speaks it seems Takaya and Jin can also hear her judging from his reaction
Seeing them have player-type strategies like switching turns, I wish we could fight more persona user teams in the future
it sucks that we do in later games, but it's always a solo enemy
@@PhantomEnderium yeah, that’s why I specifically meant teams.
The other Persona users are cool, but they don’t have any “strategies” since they don’t have a team to work with
They really should, imagine a persona team that, since they are backed by the big bad, have a lot more resources and are way better at fighting than the protagonists
Maybe have them be defeated by exploiting the fact that they are coworkers rather than friends
@@mausebas power of friendship vs power of I kinda know ya but not really
I hope it happens in p6
15:40 Takaya was like: You could have just told me, bro...
Duuuudeee, that timing at 4:30
that goes so hard
2:54 Lore accurate Makoto.
Minato, not Makoto
@@ZacianGalardMakoto Yuki is the actual canon name though
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Makoto Yuki Is a generic ass name tho
One of my favorite tropes is when the villain is monologuing about grandiose ideals and crap but the hero just shuts them down with "I don't care. You need to be stopped, and that's all there is to it."
7:38 maaan... that shot of Hypnos with the full moon on their back is so cool, I wished it was like a Magatsu Izanagi type of deal and we coud get Hypnos as a persona
Haha cheats and mods go brr
I can oddly enough see him being a social link due to how many times you encounter him outside of the dark hour, Jester/Hunger somewhat fitting him as an arcana for the social link, and your reward for maxing him out being Hypnos
Just had this fight, and while it was about as easy as I remember from FES, the fact that they can Shift is a super, super cool thing that they didn't have to add. When I saw that, it made me really happy for some reason.
Not that difficult, but they're definitely not pushovers unlike the Original game. Now I like them even more, along with the fact that they already have their own side story.
EDIT: Now, imagine if you kill Takaya first, and Jin is able to cast Recarm/Recarmdra.
Im still a little upset we don't get to fight all 3 members of Strega at once. Even the anime did that.
Like come on, we don’t even get to see how they function as a full unit
the boss fights were easy asf this time around even on higher difficulties 😂😂 a singular strong shadow gave me more trouble than takaya or jin.
@@dookcurruff9047that’s so true wtf☠️😭
@@dookcurruff9047Tbf in fes they were easy asf as well
@@dookcurruff9047What about merciless?
Jin got the sickest dance moves!
And cool drip imo
7:11 here’s the shift
I didn't watch the video yet but from the thumbnail... THEY CAN SHIFT TOO WTH YESSIR 🤩
When I played this game I had Ken in my party and he was knocked down and Takaya used his basic attack (a.k.a just shooting him in the face ) and the attack reflected …
That must have been awkward
This fight was so memorable for me two years ago
smooth change of outfit for fuuka there
Would rather her be in battle panties though
@@JohnLee-dp8eyDawg.
The Siegfried I fused dominated this fight.
He just kept critical hitting them into submission.
straight up one hit killed jin with scarlet havoc lol
@@credenzamostroKinda impossible, since Strega's HP does not budge beyond a certain point before their dialogues
oh trust me it happened@@kichiroumitsurugi4363
Aigis myriad arrow spam go brrr
This fight will forever hold a special place in my heart because I forgot I left the battle music on "Take Over"
lmaoo I always make sure to take off dlc music before full moons
I forgot whilst showing this fight to a friend and Reach Out For The Truth played.
It really killed the vibe so I rushed through the fight.
FFXIV: "KILL NIDHOGG!"
This: "Kill them, Nidhogg!"
10:49 the best line Yukari has ever said,definitely 2nd best girl lol
The fact that is a 2 v 4 and still is a hard fight
I feel like that's important to remember when regarding their strength canonically as opposed to just in-game mechanics. They only have half the number of combatants as you and they hold their own really well, especially in this version of Persona3. 1 on 1, they probably outmatch every member of SEES besides Makoto.
@@brendansage6876Also, Takaya and Jin are very good at sniping weaknesses here. Once one of them goes down, the other goes ballistic and actively snipes weaknesses mercilessly
That's just a skill issue. I two shotted them.
@@ClearmindArtist I assume we're talking about different versions of Persona3? if you're two-shotting them in P3R, you're either extremely overleveled, playing on Safety difficulty, or BS'ing us. In Reload they've got proper boss health, especially compared to the o.g. game. I mean, look at the damage dealt to them in this video.
@@brendansage6876 Scarlet Havoc is a thing
7:27 Well yeah. SEES doesn’t own team tactics 💁🏾♂️
“Nor did they invent them, but that’s a story for another day 💯”
I didn't even know they could switch I beat them without a knockdown occuring on our side.
They still don't look to be _too_ insane to beat, but the fact that Strega is actually a challenge is a big improvement. They almost downed Mitsuru and Yukari multiple times and took roughly 10 minutes to beat, where before they'd be lucky to get you to half health on anything besides Hard Difficulty, and if the fight took more than 2 minutes you took an insane amount of time to beat them. I also love the fact that they can Shift to each other, which really helps the image that Strega is an inverted, evil counterpart to SEES.
Jin also looks to be way tougher than Takaya in this fight. Did he have flashbangs and shock grenades in the original game? Those things looked deadly as hell, and he was taking less damage than Takaya for the most part.
I only remember him having a frag grenade, agilao and mudo in the original so it's a nice upgrade
@@angel_aeon I just checked the SMT wiki, and for the fight on the Moonlight Bridge in P3 FES Jin/Moros know the skills Mudo, Mudoon, Maragion, and Tarukaja, and that's it. So basically the only thing he has to damage you outside of his frag grenades (no flashbangs or shock grenades, the wiki confirmed it) are two IK skills that he needs to pray to Nyx that he lands and a move that deals medium fire damage to all enemies, which is alright, but it's basically his only good move, lol.
Jin downed aigis multiple times for me with lightning grenades. Takaya downed ken with dark. Their weakness
@@brendansage6876 in FES, there is still not information about this game in the wiki. I tried to look for the ultimate weapons, armors and accessories, but there is still nothing outside of FES.
@@kyo0001 Oof, unlucky team comp for that fight. Although I love that they actually are as threatening in gameplay as they are in the lore now. I'm coming up on that battle now and I'm excited to get my ass beat by them because they were so easy before that it was sad.
in my first playthrough of fes i made it here about 20 levels underleveled and never could beat this fight
Which is funny considering that they were one of the easier bosses in the game if you were the proper level.
I did a FES playthrough where I intentionally underleveled, and Takaya is definitely no pushover. You pretty much have to bring as many Null/Repel/Absorbs as you can fit on a Persona, then pray he doesn't Mind Charged Megidola you, or just gun crit your MC. The Hanged Man boss fight afterwards is one of the few things keeping me from recommending people try a low-level challenge of P3, because it takes about 3 hours to whittle its health down on a successful attempt.
that’s hilarious to me because i one shotted both of them in portable lol
This fight is so weird, I buffed Makoto so hard to do a 2400 damage Scarlet Havoc theurgy and it dealt like 10% of the hp, and then they just instadied from some almighty 1800 damage charged attack. If it was supposed to prevent me from skipping some of their stages then it didn't really worked
The way Takaya summons Hypnos in this version is very similar to how Adachi summons his Persona in P4
whut... never noticed takaya was that TALL.
I wish Strega could do an All-out attack
i was hoping that strega geting all out attack of type kind
The enemies can also do the '1 MORE' !?
What a great idea, now that's a challenge 7:14
Hoping Persona have evil persona group that better, strega is okay but persona 4 and 5 barely have that and just akechi and adachi solo without group
Hopefully, P6 will have one
@@axceljulio5747 There are literally evil persona users scattered throughout persona 1 and 2. The VERY first boss of the FIRST persona game IS an evil persona user. You don't need to wait for persona 6 if you want that
@@ひきこもりi yeah persona 2 basically handle it better that why i wish persona 6 has more persona user antagonist that truly threat
Dude, spoiler.
Too bad persona 1 and 2 have aged like milk@@ひきこもりi
Oh thats cool I didn't know they could switch, jin went down like a sack of potatoes so i never got to see it. I was only playing on hard, team was aki, ken and mitsuru
Love how you changed fuuka’s outfit lol you dirty dirty boy
Perfect timing 4:35
Fake jesus going on and on just so the protagonist goes "who cares" is THE most P3 thing ever
4:40 "Persona."
*Takaya says calmly*
They finally attack back
Boss fight starts at 3:40
I'm astonished that people are actually calling this fight easy. So far it has taken me about 2 hours to try and beat these guys and STILL no luck. Am I underleveled or something?
Definitely. Or too many open weaknesses
What they can attack back in this game?
This theme sounds something out of Digital Devil Saga
I’m surprised there someone is using Koromaru.
Koromaru is so goated with the sauce
Getsu-ei
He has revolution so he is perfect in physical attacking teams
Now that there are Dark spells that work on enemies, we can actually use him
Reload Koromaru is actually overpowered
What difficulty did you play? In merciless they hit the weaknesses of my party a lot of times, it wasn't difficult, but a little bit annoying.
Man this was cool
we fight jesus
No not Jesus but homeless man
7:16 what is his face
I didn't know they could shift!!! Maybe I was over prepared 😂
Ok what the heck did you have fuuka in in the beginning
Just started this other day (played FES already) and seriously, what the heck are those theurgies? So broken!
Dude he shot Makoto. It's a persona fight takaya
what happened to jin's sick moves and random flipping and jumping... :' ^ ]
Dunno how i feel about takaya & jin still being easy as all hell, but atleast reload did a good job at making me like strega more
Like they said natural awaked personas are stronger, plus the MC can change personas at will not to mention a 4-2 naturally they would lose
@@ItsMeZay341Well, there is also Theurgy that allows you to rush then down
bro they didn't fuckin do the switch for me I'm pissed
Wait so we srill have mudo and hama here?
Just like in persona 5, yes.
I haven't seen it hit Faz yet, so it seems like Atlus tweaked the numbers for them.
@@petergriscom3431Hamaon and Mudoon have 50% hit rate. And only they were changed. DFM/Samsara are still 70%
honedtly i expected more, takaya couldnt even stand one charge + heat riser + scarlet havoc + crit
I didn't know they could do that, cause I killed them both in like 2 turns
Does anyone know what Jin says at 6:00 when summoning his persona??
“Heh, watch it.”
Takaya is creepy.
He looks like he had a bad suntan.
The're stronger now right? Im glad the developers took their time to make a decent boss fight this time.
i wish they make them can use 2 move pee turn instead of 1 that would be more challenging
True, they didn't get to use even half their moveset.
I would say they should gain 2 actions once one of them goes down
Look like they are a lot harder now
Did they have all out attack too ?
That would be devastating just like the velvet attendances
Damn I wish
It wont answer your question, but Takaya has Theurgy
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I play physic/critic gameplay so this fight for me was too easy koromaru just use revolution hit a critic with ken and use the physical theurgy and bum i one-shot killed jin with 1000 danage that's crazy bro
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