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This is proof that through a lot of FF7 leading up to the Lifestream scene, Cloud didn’t feel like himself. Only pieces of him surfaced here in there through his interactions with Tifa and their past. She was literally the key to him coming back to himself and his feelings also resurfacing fully when he did.
After Aerith's little journey through Sector 5 as a child I don't believe for one fucking second any Resident would give a damn about Cloud in this situation.
Theirs a difference, he's wearing a military solider Uniform carrying a blade too heavy for normal people to life. Aeris was just some little girl on the streets. Cloud is a spectical
Cloud literally regresses to what his 13 year old self thought was an ideal Soldier. The mako poisoning and the shock of seeing Tifa after so long must have jolted his brain into regressing back to when they were in Nibelheim. Crisis Core Cloud is shy and awkward, sure, but he's a lot more mature than this Cloud if you think about it. But it sure is a good thing Tifa showed up, because the alternate was that messed up mako junkie state he was in.
It's his Jenova cells. Jenova was a shapeshifting alien who had the ability to mimic others perfectly, which she used to turn the Cetra against one another by turning into their loved ones. Those with her cells receive a diluted version of this ability. In Cloud's case, the Jenova cells picked up certain traits from Zack, then when he bumps into Tifa at the station, it reads Tifa's memories of Cloud and merges them both to form a false persona
He became more like sephiroth younger version. It was both the jenova and s-cells. You could even say the old cloud no longer exists independently. His current version is a mix of his broken memories and personality.
@@funkyfranxI’m having trouble understanding the jenova cell thing. How is it able to read Tifa’s mind if she never had any Jenova cells? I always thought it pulled from Cloud’s memories of Tifa when he was incognito during the Nibelheim incident?
This right here shows Tifa is one of the hero’s of the story. Cloud would have stayed a vegetable and threw on a black robe if not Tifa finding him. She’s definitely his light out of the darkness just as the creators have stated.
@@fanzy7 False. I would say it’s the other way around. But if you want to interpret the story that way. And that’s your dopamine hit. Then by all means.
@@garrykearns2316 all the real players of FF7 who played this game since 1997 know that Clerith is canon and Cloti is optionnal, it's a fact, all the story goes that way
I’ve seen people complain about Tifa not telling Cloud the truth right away in Rebirth but they forget that Cloud wouldn’t have recovered from it. And Tifa didn’t know enough to put him back together when they first met, she doesn’t even know that he got experimented on. She has memory loss too because of when she fell on her head as a kid so it was better that she played the long game. Cloud would’ve been an even easier target for Sephiroth to control him if Tifa had truth him the truth right away because Cloud would’ve had even more intense Mako Poisoning and would’ve been in a Vegetable State. Also, Tifa was always confronting him about what really happened so that she can help him but he kept dodging her. Although annoying that he does that, it played out right in the end. And Part 3 of Remake will show why it works out that way
The ones complaining are obviously a specific type of fan, and they're not Tifa's. But that part of the fandom are hyper emotional and lack logic, so don't let it bother you.
@@alejandromomota6934 Mako poisoning puts the individual into a near catatonic state like jessies father, With Cloud and Zack's escape you slowly see Cloud come out of that state, by the time Tifa finds him he no longer has Mako poisoning he's regaining his cognitive functions, anything beyond his reunion with Tifa is purely linked to the manipulation caused by the Jenova cells and his Dissociative personality disorder brought on by the trauma of the prior events. Cloud gets Mako poisoning a second time when he falls into the lifestream where he is put into a catatonic state again. That's why I don't believe in the idea that he somehow has Mako poisoning throughout the entirety of the story, Mako poisoning dulls a persons senses and makes them unaware of their surroundings.
@@naruarthurMy man those crooks did end up putting 2 and 2 together and leaving Cloud be. Oh and I wouldn't be criticizing the intelligence of crooks when many people in positions of power and wealth are in fact crooks.
Tifa always has and always will love and care for Cloud. She cares so much about him, she convinces him to join Avalanche just so that she can keep him around and keep an eye out for him. Cloud might feel that his relationship with Tifa was always a one-way street, but in reality, Tifa loved and cared for him just as much.
@@S_Blitz I disagree though! It's the subtle signs they put in and they did it really well. He's constantly touching her and holding her, already from the Remake. The signs were clear but they ain't words but his body language. Which is on point because it fits the 'beneath the Highwind' part lol.
@nexusconnection22 They technically are doing a full remake in this style it's just stuck behind a weird gacha system and mobile controls ported to PC. The game isn't half bad anyways.
This scene would have been a perfect epilogue for Crisis Core:Reunion. After the credits finish, we see Cloud barely functioning and mixed up images of Zack's memories with him in place play as he stares at nothing. Then Tifa snaps him out of it with Zack fading away from all memories.
I love how insistent Tifa is. Three times she insists that Cloud stay in Sector 7 where she lives. "Something was wrong. I felt there was something strange about the things you talked about. All the things you didn't know that you should, and other things you shouldn't know that you did. I wanted to make sure... But then I heard you were leaving, and I didn't want that. I didn't know what to do. So, I thought I needed more time. And that's why I told you about the AVALANCHE job. I wanted to be with you and watch you." FF7 is so damn good.
I love this part too. But in the Japanese, she doesn't say 'But then I heard you were leaving', she says something like 'Every time I brought it up, you drifted further away.' Gives a very different impression; it's sad the translation was so bad
Tifa saves Cloud so many times... brings him back to the real world.. She might be the best female video game character of all time. So many positive attribute... strong, kind, vulnerable, works on her emotions, helpful, considerate of others, mindful.. she is written way too lovely to be real.
There are people like that that exist in the Real; it's just that those folks have already lived a whole life usually (and learned something from every single lesson and failure throughout). To meet someone in their early 20s that is already a largely "complete" integrated human is really REALLY rare. I have yet to meet one, and I feel like I've been everywhere
@@ADPax10its more of current young generation being spoiled and told that they more smarter then any one before them and older generations are just stupid.
@ShadowriverUB I'm not sure about that. When older-Millennials like myself and those of my age group were children, we were also considered as the most spoilt and over-nurtured Gen there ever was. But I've at least met a few very intelligent and very wise ("Perennial students" and the like) in each generation. It's just that the older folks had more time to learn from their past mistakes and to think about things. Now, many obviously chose not to use their time for that (LOL), though that could be said for all age groups. There IS a through-line of wisdom that crosses all generations, but christ, there are a lot of people who never learned how to think critically, practice humility, or discern truth from illusion.
Tifa found Cloud at his lowest, his weakest...nursed him back to health, put up with his schizophrenia and helped him recover his true self. Aerith also helped, but mostly because she was nostalgia struck for Zack and tried to fish out her old boyfriend out of him, discovering to no avail that it's a lost cause. I really love it how they made her flinch with frustration on a few occasions because of it, dispelling the angelic aura around her. Our experience of Clerith from OG and remake is all from Cloud's messed up point of view. His make belief coping mechanism. Our infatuation with Aerith as fans and our inability to differentiate her human character from the magical person she appears to be is also part of that complex. The creators outlined the hero's journey towards self discovery this way on purpose an we are part of the experiment...which is genius storytelling. Aerith is just a girl with a hard life, who fell in love with the little prince who came crash landing twice...She died trying to save the planet, she had much fun along the way but the last we see of her true self was at the temple of the ancients...after her death its all just life stream gliches and fragments of Cloud's guilt ridden panic attacks which only cease by the end of Advent Children.
I have a solid feeling that this scene in Remake part 3 will play out VERY similarly to this ever crisis version. I’m even more confident in my thinking because in the end of Chapter 1 of Rebirth, Cloud says to Tifa “you know I can’t tell you that” when she asks him where he was for 5 years. This mirrors this scene where he says “Sorry, I can’t talk about my time at Shinra. It’s confidential”
Damn, this is exactly what I was thinking. I remember reading people being confused about that scene. But having seen this video I wasn't at all. I wonder if they add some things to it though. This works in text bubbles and chibi models. But the moment it becomes AAA modern graphics with voice acting etc the scene will not allot more. Hopefully the new additions are extra layers just as they did with anything up till now. For example, not one time does she mention how much he has changed here. I mean sure she's surprised but you'd think that it would be more jarring to see him like this if the last memory you have is at the water tower/that next spring when he leaves as a boy.
I agree with you because this EC character episode for Cloud is written by Mr. Nojima (all the character episodes are) and he’s the scenario writer for the Remake project so I’m sure it will align.
@@markcarlocabico5363 He watches Zack die when he recovers from the mako poisoning. By the time Tifa finds him, the issue is Jenova messing with his memories.
I have a feeling part 3 is going to open with this scene, then cut to Tifa in the Tiny Bronco on their way to the Northern Crater with her remembering it and her contemplating how Cloud is getting worse, and she feels helpless.
It would probably have to be a childhood friend but I think in this world this kind of relationship is pretty rare. Don't feel so bad about it. Like Aerith says in rebirth "I wish I had a childhood friend like that". I would say that's most people. lol
Even though i born in 20's i never play the original game. Now that i finish the remake one im really feeling regret never get to play this and never get to feel that nostalgic
you can still play the original, I revisited the game before the remake came out (I grew up with the original) and I forgot how hilarious and stupid the original was. I recommended my firend to play it for the first time and we had moments where we cried out laughing at how funny it was
I genuinely love that they use HD remastered versions of the OG PS1 music, rather than more orchestral versions you hear in things like FF7R. It fits the theme and style of the game better.
Its silly that no one ever asks him why an "Ex-Soldier" would be opposed to speaking about his past "confidential" missions. Like bro, we literally just bombed a reactor AGAIN why not open up about what shinra did and why you left shinra. I mean, i know they wouldnt get a good answer, but i still think its funny that the group damn near refuses to press cloud on just about anything he does or says.
Since Square wont address the elephant in the room about Clouds outfit. It's now my personal headcanon that Cloud ate his shoulder pads in the absence of Zack's hospitality. How he aquired his steampunk armor pieces is however, still a mystery.
I hope they show this in the 3rd Remake game. There's a year gap between Zack and Cloud joining Avalanche and this would be a good part of the story to include.
A year ? Pretty sure it happens like the next day or smth. Cloud was 16 during the Nibelheim incident, they stayed in a “coma” for 5 years and Cloud was 21 when he joined Avalanche. So it happens right next to each other
@@hishouha Yep same thoughts here. I don't know the exact day it happens but the way you can look at it is Zack dies on sunday, Cloud arrives in the slums that night and they meet there. She tells him about the Avalanche job. The next day monday he's literally swinging that buster sword at Shinra troopers lol. The next weekend they are already in Kalm. Everything after that though supposed has more time inbetween. Though you can't quote me on that either.
@Rusalo4ka-ue1mt Ahhhhh right. No that makes sense haha. Though I think that's covered in Crisis Core and also Zack is just carrying Cloud around like a comatose person. Not sure if that's compelling material. But yeah thanks for giving me context. More interesting to me is being reminded just how little time there is between him arriving and Midgar and the bombing mission, meeting Aerith, plate falling etc. It's crazy.
@@mikev8746official timeline: - Zack and Cloud were captured and experimented on for 4 years by Hojo - They were escaping mostly on foot from Nibelheim towards Midgar (other continent) for about a year - Cloud in half comatose state arrives in Midgar roughly two months since Zack death - Tifa finds cloud and in couple of days later the main story of og kicks in. In remake they even wanted to highlight that with Tifa finding Cloud the apartment after bombing mission. So it wasn't much time.
I like how this remake looks, the camera plans resemble with the ones on Playstation, and the character models look good, maybe the animations are not excellent, but this game does a good work looking good.
Yeah after all he went through in Nibelheim, then being sealed in a mako pod for 5 yrs and the trauma from Zack being killed, Cloud's weak mako infused mind along with Jenova's cells merged with Tifa's memories altered his personality into a fake Ex-SOLDIER one.
Yes he literally shows up to 7th Heaven and Barret recruits him within a day it seems. In Remake it's shown Cloud doesn't even have a bed to sleep in until after he gets back from the bombing mission. In the OG he just sleeps on the floor in the pinball machine hideout
People wonder why Tifa didn't tell him the truth. Cloud is all Tifa has left anymore and Cloud needed Tifa. If Tifa broke the illusion, Cloud would have left and Sephiroth would have won.
Not only that but we know she tried to ask about the past but then Jenova blocks her and he glitches out. This was talked about in the OG JP version. She said she started ask about it but he then his mind started to wander far away (idk why it was taken out of the EN release) and he would get worse. So it makes sense she stopped asking him. Then she even began to wonder about her own memories and if she was wrong. After all, Cloud was recounting things accurately but she just didn’t recall him being there. And now in Rebirth, they have Tifa addressing this, thinking maybe the Whispers affected her memories too and that’s why Cloud’s memories don’t match hers. So there are actually good reasons why he doesn’t get confronted by her (or Aerith for that matter since she also knows something is up with him).
Cloud through his Jenova cells literally read her mind. And used the memories of Nibelheim to put together his SOLDIER persona. You can also see the Jenova cells blocking out the words Tifa says because it would shatter his mind. Same happened in REMAKE when Aerith tried telling Cloud who she dated prior to meeting him.
a more realistic answer would be: Cloud was in a state of akinetic catatonia caused by his trauma, his deep sleep in Hojo’s lab, mako poisoning and jenova cells. Akinetic Catatonia includes a huge lack in dopamine in the brain. which is why dopamine can cure catatonia. Seeing Tifa, the girl he loved, gave him a rush of dopamine, shocking his brain out of his catatonic state
I needed this bit of the story this was an important piece of the story and i'm kinda sad it didn't make it to Remake but at least I know how it went down now
@@Force-Multiplier Not this scene specifically, but Tifa's reunion with Cloud was in the OG, yes. She knew from the moment she found him that he was seriously messed up, and that is why she never pressed him on anything. She didn't want to break him
When do you get this scene? In og you don’t see this until late second disc if I’m remembering correctly which is way far off from when you first leave Midgar
Start thinking , Cloud was called by Jenova , bu was Zack too? Yeah he want to see Aerith, but sub constant led by Jenova to hornett nest to midgar ? To people who want to take him down, he might be better to fight control, but its make me thinking...
Just until end of Midgar, with other campaign progression required alongside, and missing aspects of the journey, which they might later add back in through events or side stories. Cid, Cait Sith, Yuffie, Vincent not playable yet.
In Ever Crisis It now goes beyond Midgar due to every update ever month, mind you Ever Crisis you also play Crisis Core Zack & First Soldier Teen Sephiroth out of Before Crisis, Movie & Vincent story still to come I’m sure! Maybe more in near future we don’t know for sure.. 👍
@@OddfosshaugbagiAlot actually. The mako poisoning, Jenova’s cells, Zack’s death and the Niblheim incident (which probably felt like yesterday to him because of being asleep for five years)
7 almost 8 years.... Here's the break down. Cloud meets Tifa on the water Tower- tells her he's joining SOLDIER. He is age 11. - 5 yrs he spends away from home trying to get into SOLDIER (but never managed). Grunt Cloud goes back home to Nibleheim after being away for 5 years. He is now age 16. For Cloud ( Mentally) it's been 0 yrs since the nibelheim incident when he meets her in Midgar. Cloud and Zack spent at least 2 yrs in the tanks as guineapigs for Hojo after the nibelheim incident, plus a few weeks/months traveling/running away to midgar where Cloud sees Zack die. Cloud manages to get himself to Midgar where he meets Tifa again, for the 2nd time. He is now 23 years old physically, but mentally still 16. (which is why he always says, "its been 5 yrs" and Tifa always says "What?!...." Which is why he always glitches When Tifa says "It's been glit8ch 5 years". The same way he glitches out Zacks name when Aerith tells him her first loves name is glitch*Zack*glitch*Zack Flair*gltich Not enough people seem to know or mention this.... I hope FF7 Re______ (part 3) clearly explains this.
@@FranWest. I think he should have said 1 year, being that he was there 5 years, minus the 4 years he wouldn't have known about, like Zack didn't know had passed.
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Seen a lot of people commenting about Cloud's supposed Mako poisoning, which he doesn't have at this point in the story. This is all Jenova cells as far as I'm aware from playing the OG.
It's both. The whole reason for his eyes is the Mako. The only difference between him and a someone else with mako poisoning is that Tifa manages go get Cloud to build something out of his memories. He got very lucky here.
"Cloud and Tifa reunite after 5 years - Final Fantasy 7" Spoilers, I guess.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Pretty sure it's been almost 8 yrs.... Not 5. Cloud meets Tifa on the water Tower- tells her he's joining SOLDIER. He is age 11. - 5 yrs he spends away from home trying to get into SOLDIER (but never managed). Grunt Cloud goes back home to Nibleheim after being away for 5 years. He is now age 16. For Cloud ( Mentally) it's been 0 yrs since the nibelheim incident when he meets her in Midgar. Cloud and Zack spent at least 2 yrs in the tanks as guineapigs for Hojo after the nibelheim incident, plus a few weeks/months traveling/running away to midgar where Cloud sees Zack die. Cloud manages to get himself to Midgar where he meets Tifa again, for the 2nd time. He is now 23 years old physically, but mentally still 16. (which is why he always says, "its been 5 yrs" and Tifa always says "What?!...." Which is why he always *glitches* When Tifa says "It's been *glit8ch* 5 years". The same way he glitches out Zacks name when Aerith tells him her first loves name is *glitch*Zack*glitch*Zack Flair*gltich* Not enough people seem to know or mention this.... I hope FF7 Re________ (part 3) clearly explains this.
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Pretty sure it's been almost 8 yrs.... Not 5. Cloud meets Tifa on the water Tower- tells her he's joining SOLDIER. He is age 11. - 5 yrs he spends away from home trying to get into SOLDIER (but never managed). Grunt Cloud goes back home to Nibleheim after being away for 5 years. He is now age 16. For Cloud ( Mentally) it's been 0 yrs since the nibelheim incident when he meets her in Midgar. Cloud and Zack spent at least 2 yrs in the tanks as guineapigs for Hojo after the nibelheim incident, plus a few weeks/months traveling/running away to midgar where Cloud sees Zack die. Cloud manages to get himself to Midgar where he meets Tifa again, for the 2nd time. He is now 23 years old physically, but mentally still 16. (which is why he always says, "its been 5 yrs" and Tifa always says "What?!...." Which is why he always glitches When Tifa says "It's been glit8ch 5 years". The same way he glitches out Zacks name when Aerith tells him her first loves name is glitch*Zack*glitch*Zack Flair*gltich Not enough people seem to know or mention this.... I hope FF7 Re______ (part 3) clearly explains this.
Woah! Another game? But apparently an original one (not remade like crisis core)? Hm.. Im getting confused more and more. I did not play the original games. After playin first FF7 Remake and second Crisis Core: FF7 - Reunion, and even now seeing this, the dot's won't connect for me. x) Edit: Ok, the last lines may have helped me a little bit. ^^
This would've been a good game if they'd just made it a normal release on a game platform instead of a heavily monetized mobile gacha shitstorm. Like just a faithful modern-day remaster, like what they did with Spyro Reignited. The original game with new graphics but kept in the chibi-ish style of the original.
they already have ff 7 on like every platform . . i dont get this mentality of you people . its a free game to play as you like, most people who play it have not spent a penny . ive spent a total 2 dollars and press the close button on every pop up that tries to sell me something . is it really that difficult to ignore these things? what do you guys do when you go out and the person at the counter tries to upsell ? do you then complain also since its basically 'monetization' in oral form
@@unskillfullymasterful Yeah I spent about a near 75 bucks in Ever Crisis to get Cloud a limit break straight from FF9 known as “Free Energy” Zidane Trance technique & hits pretty hard with no regrets while looking so damn cool!‼️ 😊
@@S_Blitz It was just fanfare, and does not affect the story itself. If it were like you said, then all dates would "beg to differ". The fact that it's just fun fanfare and in no way affecting the linear storyline comes straight from SE themselves.
@@S_Blitz Have you ever listened to the Final Fantasy VII Symphony? Nobuo Uematsu himself wrote the music for this symphony. If you know all about it, then you know that Aerith & Cloud gondolla date is canon, the others are players choice for fun and personal preference. There's actually a book with description, but since I have it typed up, I'll make it easy for you and paste it here. Explanation of the second movement titled “Words Drowned by Fireworks” opens with a short introduction to Aerith through her theme before starting the titular song “Words Drowned by Fireworks”, portraying the date with her and Cloud. Manifestations of “Cloud’s Theme“ make appearances throughout, and the couple hit it off while chimes flutter around like birds, then fireworks cut in. Afterwards, Aerith’s theme begins to play, but just before it fully blossoms the attention shifts back to Cloud for his exposition. His theme begins rather timidly as he begins to sort out his emotions. Fragments of Aerith’s and Tifa’s themes run throughout as Cloud’s theme becomes more confident, and his relationship grows with them. Just as Aerith is about to come back into the picture, Tifa’s theme cuts in almost intrusively, and Aerith’s theme gets drowned out. Tifa takes center stage, and Cloud’s theme makes a slight appearance with Tifa’s. But as Cloud remembers Aerith, he is left with a dilemma. Shrinking down, the second part of Cloud’s theme plays, again timidly as the birds return with Aerith, who tries to find her way back into his theme. Eventually the two cellos are able to harmonize, and Cloud realizes his feelings for her [Cloud chooses to be with Aerith]. Her theme finally moves into full blossom, and Cloud’s theme intertwines perfectly with hers. Although they are able to find each other briefly, Sephiroth suddenly interrupts them, leaving things in disarray. Aerith and Cloud try to find each other again, as different fragments from each theme enter in on different keys in desperate attempts to return to harmony. Things become more dire as Sephiroth steadily resurfaces yet again. Aerith’s theme repeatedly strives to make it through but to no avail; Sephiroth impales her with his blade, all she can manage now is quick, labored breaths. Sephiroth draws his sword out from her, and Aerith’s breaths slowly tapers off, until she breathes her last. Final Fantasy VII (Symphony in Three Movements) : II. Words Drowned by Fireworks ruclips.net/video/HItnJOy-hnE/видео.html
@@S_Blitz It's not me coping. Truth has always been the smooth and easiest road to take. 27 years of romantically pairing them by SE, in their Final Fantasy exhibitions, in their books, ads, Dev quotes, including them as a couple with other FF romantic couples, valentines day celebrations, June being their wedding month, marrying them in their mobile game Final Fantasy Airborne Brigade, Kingdom Hearts, FF9, Dissidia, and other games. The long list goes on and on and on. Not to mention the official FF7 symphony I just shared above.
After Zack died, he went to Midgar himself. Then this video happen. Tifa introduced him to the Avalanche. And Barret hired him. Cloud needed money after all. You can say that Tifa fixed him some medicine and food while he stayed there. And after that, FF7 Remake part 1 started. Hope this help.
@@javierf6162they didn’t know Cloud before Tifa introduced him to them. She probably told them he was a soldier friend. Tifa herself didn’t know he never made it into soldier either. If you played the og and went through the part where Tifa and Cloud were in the lifestream, you know that Tifa thought Cloud was never in Nibelheim during the incident, so you know she didn’t know he wasn’t a soldier. All Tifa had in those years was before Cloud left Nibelheim he told her he would become a soldier and that was it. Never told her whether he made it or not. Tifa was the only person alive in the knowledge of Cloud’s existence at the start of ff7 remake and og ff7, everyone else who knew Cloud were all dead. (Except sephiroth but why would he acknowledge him until he gets in his way?)
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Tifa INSISTENCE on him staying with her because she just knows with how messed up Cloud is she might never see him again if he walks away is so good
Tifa's Cloud's hero as well ❤
This is proof that through a lot of FF7 leading up to the Lifestream scene, Cloud didn’t feel like himself. Only pieces of him surfaced here in there through his interactions with Tifa and their past. She was literally the key to him coming back to himself and his feelings also resurfacing fully when he did.
After Aerith's little journey through Sector 5 as a child I don't believe for one fucking second any Resident would give a damn about Cloud in this situation.
Ikr
Theirs a difference, he's wearing a military solider Uniform carrying a blade too heavy for normal people to life. Aeris was just some little girl on the streets. Cloud is a spectical
Cloud literally regresses to what his 13 year old self thought was an ideal Soldier. The mako poisoning and the shock of seeing Tifa after so long must have jolted his brain into regressing back to when they were in Nibelheim. Crisis Core Cloud is shy and awkward, sure, but he's a lot more mature than this Cloud if you think about it. But it sure is a good thing Tifa showed up, because the alternate was that messed up mako junkie state he was in.
It's his Jenova cells. Jenova was a shapeshifting alien who had the ability to mimic others perfectly, which she used to turn the Cetra against one another by turning into their loved ones. Those with her cells receive a diluted version of this ability. In Cloud's case, the Jenova cells picked up certain traits from Zack, then when he bumps into Tifa at the station, it reads Tifa's memories of Cloud and merges them both to form a false persona
@@funkyfranx which then pulls back more towards Zack when he encounters Aerith.
If it weren't for Tifa Cloud would have never recovered.
it says in the ultimania that jenova’s mimic ability read tifa’s mine
He became more like sephiroth younger version. It was both the jenova and s-cells. You could even say the old cloud no longer exists independently. His current version is a mix of his broken memories and personality.
@@funkyfranxI’m having trouble understanding the jenova cell thing. How is it able to read Tifa’s mind if she never had any Jenova cells? I always thought it pulled from Cloud’s memories of Tifa when he was incognito during the Nibelheim incident?
This right here shows Tifa is one of the hero’s of the story. Cloud would have stayed a vegetable and threw on a black robe if not Tifa finding him. She’s definitely his light out of the darkness just as the creators have stated.
Aerith is Cloud's love, Tifa is Cloud's best friend
@@fanzy7 False. I would say it’s the other way around. But if you want to interpret the story that way. And that’s your dopamine hit. Then by all means.
@@garrykearns2316 all the real players of FF7 who played this game since 1997 know that Clerith is canon and Cloti is optionnal, it's a fact, all the story goes that way
@@garrykearns2316 Even Remake and Rebirth put Aerith and Cloud together
@@fanzy7LMAO
2:05 everything is about to fade to black (about to be a robe zombie) but than he yells "Tifa” and boom the lights are on and he’s alive!
I’ve seen people complain about Tifa not telling Cloud the truth right away in Rebirth but they forget that Cloud wouldn’t have recovered from it. And Tifa didn’t know enough to put him back together when they first met, she doesn’t even know that he got experimented on. She has memory loss too because of when she fell on her head as a kid so it was better that she played the long game. Cloud would’ve been an even easier target for Sephiroth to control him if Tifa had truth him the truth right away because Cloud would’ve had even more intense Mako Poisoning and would’ve been in a Vegetable State.
Also, Tifa was always confronting him about what really happened so that she can help him but he kept dodging her. Although annoying that he does that, it played out right in the end. And Part 3 of Remake will show why it works out that way
The ones complaining are obviously a specific type of fan, and they're not Tifa's.
But that part of the fandom are hyper emotional and lack logic, so don't let it bother you.
@@TheAC86 Lot of projection there.
Cloud doesn't have Mako poisoning at this point in the story, where did people get that from? That stuff is all Jenova cell's doing
@@brinst_arwhat are you on about? He absolutely does
@@alejandromomota6934 Mako poisoning puts the individual into a near catatonic state like jessies father, With Cloud and Zack's escape you slowly see Cloud come out of that state, by the time Tifa finds him he no longer has Mako poisoning he's regaining his cognitive functions, anything beyond his reunion with Tifa is purely linked to the manipulation caused by the Jenova cells and his Dissociative personality disorder brought on by the trauma of the prior events.
Cloud gets Mako poisoning a second time when he falls into the lifestream where he is put into a catatonic state again.
That's why I don't believe in the idea that he somehow has Mako poisoning throughout the entirety of the story, Mako poisoning dulls a persons senses and makes them unaware of their surroundings.
See a man with a soldier uniform and a big fucking sword.............yup definitely just a mako junkie
Because the ones they've seen around behaving similarly are Soldiers.
@@TehParismio but how many of them are dragging around a big fucking sword
@@ricram7267 crooks are not that smart, if they could put 2 and 2 together they would not be on the street like that
@@naruarthurMy man those crooks did end up putting 2 and 2 together and leaving Cloud be. Oh and I wouldn't be criticizing the intelligence of crooks when many people in positions of power and wealth are in fact crooks.
Most mako poisened people (junkies) are soldiers lol
0:21 (Angeal intensifies)
Last time he saw Tifa was five years ago, but last time Tifa saw him was longer than that
"I should be happy bumping on my old friend Tifa"
Yes indeed
The way tifa has always cared for cloud honestly sinks my heart it’s why I’m a cloti she’s perfect for him 🥺
If I opened my eyes and saw Tifa standing over me, I'd say "Ug... ah... aaaaah" as well.
this comment needs way more likes!
@@WaveTheConqueror allow me to contribute
Whoa... Can't wait to see this in part 3
Tifa always has and always will love and care for Cloud. She cares so much about him, she convinces him to join Avalanche just so that she can keep him around and keep an eye out for him.
Cloud might feel that his relationship with Tifa was always a one-way street, but in reality, Tifa loved and cared for him just as much.
It turns out Tifa had a crush on cloud way before he made that promise to her. Those two are just dumb! 😆
Tifa in Rebirth felt like it was a one way street on her end and Cloud was the one who didn't care. BUT THEY FINALLY KISS!!!
@@S_Blitz I disagree though! It's the subtle signs they put in and they did it really well. He's constantly touching her and holding her, already from the Remake. The signs were clear but they ain't words but his body language. Which is on point because it fits the 'beneath the Highwind' part lol.
Look at sweet chibi model of them
Make me happy
They are right about choose this desing
Reminds me of ff9 models, especially from the shocked npc gesture
Would honestly shell out a good 40 bucks for a full remake in this style
@nexusconnection22 They technically are doing a full remake in this style it's just stuck behind a weird gacha system and mobile controls ported to PC. The game isn't half bad anyways.
lol hells ya. the way remake and rebirth...
should have been. 😞
@@ssppeeaarr youd rather rebirth and remake look like this?
man it’s hard seeing cloud like that, poor guy
This scene would have been a perfect epilogue for Crisis Core:Reunion. After the credits finish, we see Cloud barely functioning and mixed up images of Zack's memories with him in place play as he stares at nothing. Then Tifa snaps him out of it with Zack fading away from all memories.
Play the original it has an epilogue, and it's cheesy too.
I love how insistent Tifa is. Three times she insists that Cloud stay in Sector 7 where she lives.
"Something was wrong. I felt there was something strange about the things you talked about. All the things you didn't know that you should, and other things you shouldn't know that you did. I wanted to make sure...
But then I heard you were leaving, and I didn't want that. I didn't know what to do. So, I thought I needed more time. And that's why I told you about the AVALANCHE job. I wanted to be with you and watch you."
FF7 is so damn good.
I love this part too. But in the Japanese, she doesn't say 'But then I heard you were leaving', she says something like 'Every time I brought it up, you drifted further away.' Gives a very different impression; it's sad the translation was so bad
@ranx I like that much better actually. It's a more realistic reason to withhold the truth from him.
Was this dialogue from the books?
It’s been so long I can’t remember.
@@jamelgallagher6602 from this same scene in FF7 OG
I feel like Tifa has saved Cloud more than he's saved her at this point lol
Tifa saves Cloud so many times... brings him back to the real world.. She might be the best female video game character of all time. So many positive attribute... strong, kind, vulnerable, works on her emotions, helpful, considerate of others, mindful.. she is written way too lovely to be real.
There are people like that that exist in the Real; it's just that those folks have already lived a whole life usually (and learned something from every single lesson and failure throughout). To meet someone in their early 20s that is already a largely "complete" integrated human is really REALLY rare. I have yet to meet one, and I feel like I've been everywhere
I married my wife because she is like tifa and looks like her. She also saved my life ❤️
And can kick all kinds of ass with pure martial arts grace.
@@ADPax10its more of current young generation being spoiled and told that they more smarter then any one before them and older generations are just stupid.
@ShadowriverUB I'm not sure about that. When older-Millennials like myself and those of my age group were children, we were also considered as the most spoilt and over-nurtured Gen there ever was. But I've at least met a few very intelligent and very wise ("Perennial students" and the like) in each generation. It's just that the older folks had more time to learn from their past mistakes and to think about things. Now, many obviously chose not to use their time for that (LOL), though that could be said for all age groups.
There IS a through-line of wisdom that crosses all generations, but christ, there are a lot of people who never learned how to think critically, practice humility, or discern truth from illusion.
Tifa found Cloud at his lowest, his weakest...nursed him back to health, put up with his schizophrenia and helped him recover his true self. Aerith also helped, but mostly because she was nostalgia struck for Zack and tried to fish out her old boyfriend out of him, discovering to no avail that it's a lost cause. I really love it how they made her flinch with frustration on a few occasions because of it, dispelling the angelic aura around her.
Our experience of Clerith from OG and remake is all from Cloud's messed up point of view. His make belief coping mechanism. Our infatuation with Aerith as fans and our inability to differentiate her human character from the magical person she appears to be is also part of that complex. The creators outlined the hero's journey towards self discovery this way on purpose an we are part of the experiment...which is genius storytelling.
Aerith is just a girl with a hard life, who fell in love with the little prince who came crash landing twice...She died trying to save the planet, she had much fun along the way but the last we see of her true self was at the temple of the ancients...after her death its all just life stream gliches and fragments of Cloud's guilt ridden panic attacks which only cease by the end of Advent Children.
Just more evidence of how everything for Cloud has always been about Tifa. I don't think he could have recovered without her.
Me neither
He wouldn’t have at all. Everything revolves around her in his true mind.
True
Insane to see him literally get WORSE because of her ideal of him and say this
Yeah
I have a solid feeling that this scene in Remake part 3 will play out VERY similarly to this ever crisis version. I’m even more confident in my thinking because in the end of Chapter 1 of Rebirth, Cloud says to Tifa “you know I can’t tell you that” when she asks him where he was for 5 years.
This mirrors this scene where he says “Sorry, I can’t talk about my time at Shinra. It’s confidential”
Damn, this is exactly what I was thinking. I remember reading people being confused about that scene. But having seen this video I wasn't at all. I wonder if they add some things to it though. This works in text bubbles and chibi models. But the moment it becomes AAA modern graphics with voice acting etc the scene will not allot more. Hopefully the new additions are extra layers just as they did with anything up till now.
For example, not one time does she mention how much he has changed here. I mean sure she's surprised but you'd think that it would be more jarring to see him like this if the last memory you have is at the water tower/that next spring when he leaves as a boy.
I agree with you because this EC character episode for Cloud is written by Mr. Nojima (all the character episodes are) and he’s the scenario writer for the Remake project so I’m sure it will align.
Tifa has been A1 since day one.
this is a little different than the memory in the og ff7. interesting.
I like it like this
@@Ahmed-og2jmI agree an I’m sooo glad we got this game, because now they can tell us untold stories from the original that we hadn’t known or seen.
he make us believe that zack is dead to his memory b'coz his been poison on that mako reactor after they fought sephiroth. 🤔
@@markcarlocabico5363he did see zack die just the mako poisoning, the ptsd and all that messed up his memories
@@markcarlocabico5363 He watches Zack die when he recovers from the mako poisoning. By the time Tifa finds him, the issue is Jenova messing with his memories.
I have a feeling part 3 is going to open with this scene, then cut to Tifa in the Tiny Bronco on their way to the Northern Crater with her remembering it and her contemplating how Cloud is getting worse, and she feels helpless.
...I wish even one person in my whole life cared about me that much.
It would probably have to be a childhood friend but I think in this world this kind of relationship is pretty rare. Don't feel so bad about it. Like Aerith says in rebirth "I wish I had a childhood friend like that". I would say that's most people. lol
@@trevorphillips9576 "Wait! - When can I see you again? - -- Ill help you find a room, so come on."
Never...not even close.
Tifa is the real hero of ff7 if it wasn’t her finding cloud, cloud would still be a vegetable or worst, sephiroth puppet
Even though i born in 20's i never play the original game. Now that i finish the remake one im really feeling regret never get to play this and never get to feel that nostalgic
In the 20s? Are you 90-100 years old? If so that’s really cool
You know what he meant child@@AdamW-eo2yq
@@mrmaclovin255 you know I actually didn’t
But stupid from me but it wasn’t meant to be horriblr
you can still play the original, I revisited the game before the remake came out (I grew up with the original) and I forgot how hilarious and stupid the original was. I recommended my firend to play it for the first time and we had moments where we cried out laughing at how funny it was
Love the song. It's timeless.
Jenova is actively blocking his memories.
Im not sure its that
@@Oddfosshaugbagiit’s pretty is
@@grimes5292isent it ptsd or tramua?
This guy are sick.
A mix of Mako Poising, trauma, and PTSD from seeing your best friend die protecting you will do that to you.
I genuinely love that they use HD remastered versions of the OG PS1 music, rather than more orchestral versions you hear in things like FF7R. It fits the theme and style of the game better.
Its silly that no one ever asks him why an "Ex-Soldier" would be opposed to speaking about his past "confidential" missions. Like bro, we literally just bombed a reactor AGAIN why not open up about what shinra did and why you left shinra.
I mean, i know they wouldnt get a good answer, but i still think its funny that the group damn near refuses to press cloud on just about anything he does or says.
Since Square wont address the elephant in the room about Clouds outfit. It's now my personal headcanon that Cloud ate his shoulder pads in the absence of Zack's hospitality. How he aquired his steampunk armor pieces is however, still a mystery.
I hope they show this in the 3rd Remake game. There's a year gap between Zack and Cloud joining Avalanche and this would be a good part of the story to include.
It's literally a couple days lol no?
A year ? Pretty sure it happens like the next day or smth. Cloud was 16 during the Nibelheim incident, they stayed in a “coma” for 5 years and Cloud was 21 when he joined Avalanche. So it happens right next to each other
@@hishouha Yep same thoughts here. I don't know the exact day it happens but the way you can look at it is Zack dies on sunday, Cloud arrives in the slums that night and they meet there. She tells him about the Avalanche job. The next day monday he's literally swinging that buster sword at Shinra troopers lol. The next weekend they are already in Kalm. Everything after that though supposed has more time inbetween. Though you can't quote me on that either.
@Rusalo4ka-ue1mt Ahhhhh right. No that makes sense haha. Though I think that's covered in Crisis Core and also Zack is just carrying Cloud around like a comatose person. Not sure if that's compelling material. But yeah thanks for giving me context. More interesting to me is being reminded just how little time there is between him arriving and Midgar and the bombing mission, meeting Aerith, plate falling etc. It's crazy.
@@mikev8746official timeline:
- Zack and Cloud were captured and experimented on for 4 years by Hojo
- They were escaping mostly on foot from Nibelheim towards Midgar (other continent) for about a year
- Cloud in half comatose state arrives in Midgar roughly two months since Zack death
- Tifa finds cloud and in couple of days later the main story of og kicks in.
In remake they even wanted to highlight that with Tifa finding Cloud the apartment after bombing mission. So it wasn't much time.
I like how this remake looks, the camera plans resemble with the ones on Playstation, and the character models look good, maybe the animations are not excellent, but this game does a good work looking good.
Yeah after all he went through in Nibelheim, then being sealed in a mako pod for 5 yrs and the trauma from Zack being killed, Cloud's weak mako infused mind along with Jenova's cells merged with Tifa's memories altered his personality into a fake Ex-SOLDIER one.
Tifa is the only person who knows him better than anyone else. She's like his light and savior at the same time.
Is this how he got hired for the bombing run with Barret?
Yes he literally shows up to 7th Heaven and Barret recruits him within a day it seems. In Remake it's shown Cloud doesn't even have a bed to sleep in until after he gets back from the bombing mission. In the OG he just sleeps on the floor in the pinball machine hideout
Literally at least 30 minutes after zack dies
@Rusalo4ka-ue1mt it wouldnt take cloud two days to get to midgar from where he was last seen in crisis core
Wow So Tifa trigger him to sense and his memory mixed with Zack
And Tifa saw Cloud is weird all he say not make any sense
People wonder why Tifa didn't tell him the truth. Cloud is all Tifa has left anymore and Cloud needed Tifa. If Tifa broke the illusion, Cloud would have left and Sephiroth would have won.
Not only that but we know she tried to ask about the past but then Jenova blocks her and he glitches out. This was talked about in the OG JP version. She said she started ask about it but he then his mind started to wander far away (idk why it was taken out of the EN release) and he would get worse. So it makes sense she stopped asking him.
Then she even began to wonder about her own memories and if she was wrong. After all, Cloud was recounting things accurately but she just didn’t recall him being there. And now in Rebirth, they have Tifa addressing this, thinking maybe the Whispers affected her memories too and that’s why Cloud’s memories don’t match hers. So there are actually good reasons why he doesn’t get confronted by her (or Aerith for that matter since she also knows something is up with him).
Note to self: If I start playing this, turn down the sound effects because the foley (footfalls in particular) is disgustingly bad.
A remaster of FF7 with these graphics is exactly what i want!
It's frustrating that they used it for a mobile game instead.
If this graphic got clasic ff 7 to remastered for ps4 and ps5 will bee perfect
Id pay 100 dollars for that day one
its sad cause they could have easily done this style...
then revert to the full size models like remake has for the battles.
sigh. oh well tho.
how does cloud go from being mako poisoned / intoxicated to instantly recovered once he sees tifa ?
The power to not look as a poor piece of trash when your first love (and the only living person that knows you) look at you, more beautiful than ever.
Jenova Cells
Cloud through his Jenova cells literally read her mind. And used the memories of Nibelheim to put together his SOLDIER persona. You can also see the Jenova cells blocking out the words Tifa says because it would shatter his mind. Same happened in REMAKE when Aerith tried telling Cloud who she dated prior to meeting him.
a more realistic answer would be: Cloud was in a state of akinetic catatonia caused by his trauma, his deep sleep in Hojo’s lab, mako poisoning and jenova cells. Akinetic Catatonia includes a huge lack in dopamine in the brain. which is why dopamine can cure catatonia. Seeing Tifa, the girl he loved, gave him a rush of dopamine, shocking his brain out of his catatonic state
@@happypepper9326That's definitely not the answer though 😂
I needed this bit of the story
this was an important piece of the story and i'm kinda sad it didn't make it to Remake but at least I know how it went down now
It would have put far too much into context. This gets shown during part 3 in the original.
@@Adanu191 this was in OG7? I don't remember this bit in disc 3
but to be fair i haven't replayed OG since the PSP era
@@Force-Multiplier Not this scene specifically, but Tifa's reunion with Cloud was in the OG, yes.
She knew from the moment she found him that he was seriously messed up, and that is why she never pressed him on anything. She didn't want to break him
Hoping we see this scene in the LS sequence in part 3.
When do you get this scene? In og you don’t see this until late second disc if I’m remembering correctly which is way far off from when you first leave Midgar
this is from clouds character quest!
@@FazFaz I didn’t even know there was character quests,thank you!
What's the title of the track that plays at 6:07 ?
Anxiety
Also known as Anxious Heart.
It's the same track from 2:58 onwards, just the next part of it.
Start thinking , Cloud was called by Jenova , bu was Zack too? Yeah he want to see Aerith, but sub constant led by Jenova to hornett nest to midgar ? To people who want to take him down, he might be better to fight control, but its make me thinking...
Sure would have been nice if they just did a remaster of OG with these graphics.
Probably a unpopular opinion, but i'd definitely take a full fledged remake in this style instead of what we've gotten with part 1 and rebirth.
OMG I can't wait for this scenes to be in FF7 remake part 3 and how they will be remade. I'm so hype but have to wait till 2027-28 ish 😔
cloud is based in don quixote
Sure would love to play this on Switch…
Can i play through ALL of og FF7 right now? I need to know
just up until the end of chapter 3
Just until end of Midgar, with other campaign progression required alongside, and missing aspects of the journey, which they might later add back in through events or side stories. Cid, Cait Sith, Yuffie, Vincent not playable yet.
In Ever Crisis It now goes beyond Midgar due to every update ever month, mind you Ever Crisis you also play Crisis Core Zack & First Soldier Teen Sephiroth out of Before Crisis, Movie & Vincent story still to come I’m sure! Maybe more in near future we don’t know for sure.. 👍
Advent children side story.
Before real ones are beating Shinra, during part 2.
Where Cloud gets his fake personality due to trauma.
you people are so stu pid
Pretty sure its more due to the Hojo experiment than trauma.
@@Vivi_Strikeits mabye both
@@OddfosshaugbagiAlot actually. The mako poisoning, Jenova’s cells, Zack’s death and the Niblheim incident (which probably felt like yesterday to him because of being asleep for five years)
@@enriquepowers i doubt its jenova cuss why would Sephiroth make a fake persona of cloud and reveal the truth to him
Wit when does this happen in the og
That song loop is seamless! Mobile quality gaming 😂
It's been annoying to me that cloud doesn't know he was locked up for 4 years, so really he should have said 3 years.
7 almost 8 years....
Here's the break down.
Cloud meets Tifa on the water Tower- tells her he's joining SOLDIER. He is age 11.
- 5 yrs he spends away from home trying to get into SOLDIER (but never managed).
Grunt Cloud goes back home to Nibleheim after being away for 5 years. He is now age 16.
For Cloud ( Mentally) it's been 0 yrs since the nibelheim incident when he meets her in Midgar.
Cloud and Zack spent at least 2 yrs in the tanks as guineapigs for Hojo after the nibelheim incident, plus a few weeks/months traveling/running away to midgar where Cloud sees Zack die.
Cloud manages to get himself to Midgar where he meets Tifa again, for the 2nd time. He is now 23 years old physically, but mentally still 16.
(which is why he always says, "its been 5 yrs" and Tifa always says "What?!...."
Which is why he always glitches When Tifa says "It's been glit8ch 5 years".
The same way he glitches out Zacks name when Aerith tells him her first loves name is glitch*Zack*glitch*Zack Flair*gltich
Not enough people seem to know or mention this.... I hope FF7 Re______ (part 3) clearly explains this.
@@FranWest. I think he should have said 1 year, being that he was there 5 years, minus the 4 years he wouldn't have known about, like Zack didn't know had passed.
Do you recommend I play this? I am on OG FF7 Player... and I have played Remake, Intergrade, and Rebirth.
If you played Gacha’s before, you could give it a try, because you know what you’re getting into.
If story is all you care about, you could just watch my videos. I play this game actively, and will cover this game until end of service. Story videos are posted at the top of my playlist, so just feel free to come and check it out whenever.
Seen a lot of people commenting about Cloud's supposed Mako poisoning, which he doesn't have at this point in the story. This is all Jenova cells as far as I'm aware from playing the OG.
It's both. The whole reason for his eyes is the Mako. The only difference between him and a someone else with mako poisoning is that Tifa manages go get Cloud to build something out of his memories. He got very lucky here.
He had it up until he meets Tifa, in that exact moment is when he recovers (Jenova cells kicking in)
I'd buy an FF7 remake in this style.
"Cloud and Tifa reunite after 5 years - Final Fantasy 7"
Spoilers, I guess..
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Pretty sure it's been almost 8 yrs.... Not 5.
Cloud meets Tifa on the water Tower- tells her he's joining SOLDIER. He is age 11.
- 5 yrs he spends away from home trying to get into SOLDIER (but never managed).
Grunt Cloud goes back home to Nibleheim after being away for 5 years. He is now age 16.
For Cloud ( Mentally) it's been 0 yrs since the nibelheim incident when he meets her in Midgar.
Cloud and Zack spent at least 2 yrs in the tanks as guineapigs for Hojo after the nibelheim incident, plus a few weeks/months traveling/running away to midgar where Cloud sees Zack die.
Cloud manages to get himself to Midgar where he meets Tifa again, for the 2nd time. He is now 23 years old physically, but mentally still 16.
(which is why he always says, "its been 5 yrs" and Tifa always says "What?!...."
Which is why he always *glitches* When Tifa says "It's been *glit8ch* 5 years".
The same way he glitches out Zacks name when Aerith tells him her first loves name is *glitch*Zack*glitch*Zack Flair*gltich*
Not enough people seem to know or mention this.... I hope FF7 Re________ (part 3) clearly explains this.
guess who was also at nibelheim five years ago? tifa. meaning,,,, it's been five years. not 8.
@@runaway74 ofc Tifa was there, which is why she KNOWS it was NOT "five" years ago.
Which platform I can play this?
why did they change this scene in remake?
wtf they didnt show this scene in remake yet
Part 3
what on earth is this game
Final fantasy 7 ever crisis, a brand new game that game out on pc and mobile platforms. It retells final fantasy 7, crisis core, and a original story about the original first class soldiers and a young Sephiroth it’s a fun game
How does cloud know its been 5 years he remained unconscious until the moment zack was shot
Probably because Zack told him at some point when he was semi-concious. I think.
Pretty sure it's been almost 8 yrs.... Not 5.
Cloud meets Tifa on the water Tower- tells her he's joining SOLDIER. He is age 11.
- 5 yrs he spends away from home trying to get into SOLDIER (but never managed).
Grunt Cloud goes back home to Nibleheim after being away for 5 years. He is now age 16.
For Cloud ( Mentally) it's been 0 yrs since the nibelheim incident when he meets her in Midgar.
Cloud and Zack spent at least 2 yrs in the tanks as guineapigs for Hojo after the nibelheim incident, plus a few weeks/months traveling/running away to midgar where Cloud sees Zack die.
Cloud manages to get himself to Midgar where he meets Tifa again, for the 2nd time. He is now 23 years old physically, but mentally still 16.
(which is why he always says, "its been 5 yrs" and Tifa always says "What?!...."
Which is why he always glitches When Tifa says "It's been glit8ch 5 years".
The same way he glitches out Zacks name when Aerith tells him her first loves name is glitch*Zack*glitch*Zack Flair*gltich
Not enough people seem to know or mention this.... I hope FF7 Re______ (part 3) clearly explains this.
@@FranWest.Your age is a bit off. In the original, Tifa is 21, cloud is 22, Aeris is 23.
@Rusalo4ka-ue1mt what time line are you using?
@Rusalo4ka-ue1mt they're different ages depending on which game they're in
Woah! Another game? But apparently an original one (not remade like crisis core)? Hm.. Im getting confused more and more. I did not play the original games. After playin first FF7 Remake and second Crisis Core: FF7 - Reunion, and even now seeing this, the dot's won't connect for me. x)
Edit: Ok, the last lines may have helped me a little bit. ^^
Huh? That’s not how the OG went no?
This would've been a good game if they'd just made it a normal release on a game platform instead of a heavily monetized mobile gacha shitstorm.
Like just a faithful modern-day remaster, like what they did with Spyro Reignited. The original game with new graphics but kept in the chibi-ish style of the original.
they already have ff 7 on like every platform . . i dont get this mentality of you people . its a free game to play as you like, most people who play it have not spent a penny . ive spent a total 2 dollars and press the close button on every pop up that tries to sell me something . is it really that difficult to ignore these things? what do you guys do when you go out and the person at the counter tries to upsell ? do you then complain also since its basically 'monetization' in oral form
@@unskillfullymasterful Thank you this was well needed
@@unskillfullymasterful Yeah I spent about a near 75 bucks in Ever Crisis to get Cloud a limit break straight from FF9 known as “Free Energy” Zidane Trance technique & hits pretty hard with no regrets while looking so damn cool!‼️ 😊
@@unskillfullymasterful OOO SQUARE ENIX YOU TASTE SO GOOD *GUAK GUAK* SO GOOD
Keyword: "Friends".
Their Rebirth date begs to differ
@@S_Blitz It was just fanfare, and does not affect the story itself. If it were like you said, then all dates would "beg to differ". The fact that it's just fun fanfare and in no way affecting the linear storyline comes straight from SE themselves.
@@S_Blitz Have you ever listened to the Final Fantasy VII Symphony? Nobuo Uematsu himself wrote the music for this symphony. If you know all about it, then you know that Aerith & Cloud gondolla date is canon, the others are players choice for fun and personal preference.
There's actually a book with description, but since I have it typed up, I'll make it easy for you and paste it here.
Explanation of the second movement titled “Words Drowned by Fireworks” opens with a short introduction to Aerith through her theme before starting the titular song “Words Drowned by Fireworks”, portraying the date with her and Cloud. Manifestations of “Cloud’s Theme“ make appearances throughout, and the couple hit it off while chimes flutter around like birds, then fireworks cut in.
Afterwards, Aerith’s theme begins to play, but just before it fully blossoms the attention shifts back to Cloud for his exposition. His theme begins rather timidly as he begins to sort out his emotions. Fragments of Aerith’s and Tifa’s themes run throughout as Cloud’s theme becomes more confident, and his relationship grows with them. Just as Aerith is about to come back into the picture, Tifa’s theme cuts in almost intrusively, and Aerith’s theme gets drowned out. Tifa takes center stage, and Cloud’s theme makes a slight appearance with Tifa’s. But as Cloud remembers Aerith, he is left with a dilemma.
Shrinking down, the second part of Cloud’s theme plays, again timidly as the birds return with Aerith, who tries to find her way back into his theme. Eventually the two cellos are able to harmonize, and Cloud realizes his feelings for her [Cloud chooses to be with Aerith]. Her theme finally moves into full blossom, and Cloud’s theme intertwines perfectly with hers. Although they are able to find each other briefly, Sephiroth suddenly interrupts them, leaving things in disarray. Aerith and Cloud try to find each other again, as different fragments from each theme enter in on different keys in desperate attempts to return to harmony. Things become more dire as Sephiroth steadily resurfaces yet again. Aerith’s theme repeatedly strives to make it through but to no avail; Sephiroth impales her with his blade, all she can manage now is quick, labored breaths. Sephiroth draws his sword out from her, and Aerith’s breaths slowly tapers off, until she breathes her last.
Final Fantasy VII (Symphony in Three Movements) : II. Words Drowned by Fireworks ruclips.net/video/HItnJOy-hnE/видео.html
@@AShroudOfTruth a denying Clerith it's all good, I guess their almost kiss in Gongoga was just fanfare too. It's okay keep the cope
@@S_Blitz It's not me coping. Truth has always been the smooth and easiest road to take. 27 years of romantically pairing them by SE, in their Final Fantasy exhibitions, in their books, ads, Dev quotes, including them as a couple with other FF romantic couples, valentines day celebrations, June being their wedding month, marrying them in their mobile game Final Fantasy Airborne Brigade, Kingdom Hearts, FF9, Dissidia, and other games. The long list goes on and on and on. Not to mention the official FF7 symphony I just shared above.
I dropped this game 2 months ago? Does it still suck?
Too blond. Cloud has gold, orange.
This whole game should have been a console game instead of a gatch system mobile game ; ;
What I get from some comments just reaffirms a lot of shippers literally never play the games and just watch RUclips compilations lmao.
Need the english dub for this game in the worst way
More Fanfiction Is all i see
If only the actual game was good...
It would have been cool if all of Remake had been made to look like this with turn based combat
This game feels like a true remake than the actual remake shame it’s a mobile game
Remaster sure. Remake no. Remake doesn’t imply it follows everything like a carbon copy. Hence the term. “Remake”
Wtf is this. He was supposed to be a mercenary before he met Tifa again
After Zack died, he went to Midgar himself. Then this video happen. Tifa introduced him to the Avalanche. And Barret hired him. Cloud needed money after all. You can say that Tifa fixed him some medicine and food while he stayed there. And after that, FF7 Remake part 1 started. Hope this help.
@@erratsuki7840why the group never acknowledge that he’s acting strange (delusion for being a soldier) except tifa?
@@javierf6162Heroine
@@javierf6162they didn’t know Cloud before Tifa introduced him to them. She probably told them he was a soldier friend. Tifa herself didn’t know he never made it into soldier either. If you played the og and went through the part where Tifa and Cloud were in the lifestream, you know that Tifa thought Cloud was never in Nibelheim during the incident, so you know she didn’t know he wasn’t a soldier.
All Tifa had in those years was before Cloud left Nibelheim he told her he would become a soldier and that was it. Never told her whether he made it or not.
Tifa was the only person alive in the knowledge of Cloud’s existence at the start of ff7 remake and og ff7, everyone else who knew Cloud were all dead. (Except sephiroth but why would he acknowledge him until he gets in his way?)
@@cantufekci23 so sephiroth don’t know cloud until cloud stabbed him? since cloud is just a regular trooper
Tifa moves funny while in combat