40k plus miles on my 2020 D110 first edition and not one single issue…. No rock crawling but plenty of snow covered roads, sandy beaches, and muddy trails throughout New England….
52,000 trouble free miles on my D110 so far. Doing better than our 4runner which had a faulty radiator replaced at 15,000 miles or our Jeep which had a faulty differential new from the factory. People love to hate Land Rover but so far it seems to be the only car that hasn't left me stranded in three decades of driving.
If JLR mounted a Manhattan Project to solve their build quality and reliability issues, they'd be unstoppable. The latest Defender is incredibly attractive.
On my 110, I made preset 3 push the seat all the way forward. Solves most the issue. I’d actually prefer an option for a well made manual seat, but I might be the only buyer for it.
I own a Defender 110 - it’s been flawless for 3 years. For those complaining about depreciation and maintenance costs I would say: maybe a car isn’t for you - any car. They all have depreciation and maintenance costs.
yeah everyone complains but its always the first year models that have issues. my next door neighbor has a 2012 range rover with 189k miles on it and loves it. less issues than his mercedes or bmw.
Great review. In terms of reliability, I own a 2014 RR Sport, well maintained, more conservative regarding the oil change than what JLR is advertising, so basically, every 5k for the oil change. It now has 168k on the odometer, running strong, no issues. Love my Sport. My next one? A Defender 130, applying the same principles in maintenance 😊. Thanks for the video! Best wishes from 🇨🇦
We have a lot to love in Norway, but our authorithies don't understand much about the need for utility cars and we would love to get such as this Defender like a utility vehicle without paying 80.000 USD in taxes because the authorithies think everyone who are serving them with their needed hydropower, geotecnichs or hydrogelogical issues can use an 2wd electric van with an optimistic range of 150 miles on flat paved roads with
for those slippery load-space floors - get a rubber floor mat set that will include one for the load-space. My LR dealer included these for free in the ones I bought new (last one a lowly Disco Sport). Also, go for diesel for towing grunt & economy. Don't be put off by the reputation - I've owned 7 LRs and done 400,000 miles in 27 year. Only broke down on the road twice - once a brake servo failure (25 years ago), once my fault when I wrong fuelled a diesel with petrol. Enjoy!
Good video Roman ! As a fellow 90 owner I find it incredibly rare I have passengers in the back. I typically have my rear seats folded down 99% of the time. LR does have a kit for a rear storage platform kit that levels off with that rear seat floor transition and has some nice storage under the lid. I have that kit in mine. I also added some large thick black bath towels and a rear rubber cargo liner that really seem to cure the cargo sliding around and protects the interior nicely. I like most 2 door SUVs since they do tend to have larger front doors which that tends to make sure I don't have door post in my shoulder or obstructing my visibility. Longer doors means that door post is further back out of the way. Which I really like that about the 2 door Dender as well as my prior 2 door Bronco. Overall, I agree with you, I do love my Defender 90.
If you press the speed limit switch while traveling at say, 30mph, while active it will now limit your speed to 30mph. This can actually be useful in parts of Europe where you find average speed cameras. Set your speed to 1 or 2 mph under the speed limit which prohibits you from inadvertently wandering over the limit thus avoiding a ticket. Similar systems are fitted by other manufactures in Europe. I had a Ford with a similar set-up.
@@Chris-hw4mq it's no law in europe to have speed limiters. Mercedes had within it's cruise controls since the 80's. What is a new law in europe since 2024 is the alarming by going over the speed limit but you still can accelerate. The limiter on the other hand cuts down your power at the certain speed.
To all those worried about reliability- don't. These cars share nothing with Land Rovers of the past and are very durable. Our 2021 D110 has had ZERO problems or repairs since it was new. I drive 16,000 miles a year-six days a week and use it for heavy towing. I've had BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Acura, VW and Toyota. The Land Rover is the only one that hasn't required a repair under warranty or a roadside assistance call...Of course, guys love to tell me at every gas station they have a lot of problems and I should get a different brand...sigh
I've had my 4-cyl Defender 90 for three years. I do my own oil, filter changes, and tire rotations, and haven't stepped foot into the dealership since picking it up new in December of '21. Maybe I got lucky with a good one? Maybe everybody parroting the reliability issues "who knew a guy who knew a guy" should stick to taking the bus.
No problems in a whole 5000 miles? Wow, what a great vehicle!!! And yes, the fact you won't keep it when it's out of warranty tells me all I need or want to know about it. But as an ex Land Rover owner, I already knew that.
Well, it does have more than 5000 miles on it, but what do you want them to do? They can only comment as they put on miles, and they've been doing exactly that. 2 months, 5000 miles is pretty good use. What will they find after another 50,000? Can't say - nor can anybody else.
I guess they could have bought a new toyota. Because THOSE have been demonstrating all the reliability! 🤣 But let's be serious, if reliability is the only metric you measure a vehicle on you probably shouldn't be looking at luxury or enthusiast vehicles at all and stick to generic boring and safe Japanese things. You know, except new toyotas.
As a Defender owner myself... reliability isn't the only metric, but it matters a lot. Warranties on the earliest Defenders only started expiring recently. Issues will start piling up, particularly for lease returns and others who followed the LR-prescribed oil change schedule (21k miles). And "let's be serious" very few Defender owners are enthusiasts in any sense of the word. Most won't see anything resembling a trail until the 3rd or 4th owner decides to swap the 22" wheels for something less useless and remove the equally useless raised air intake that does almost nothing but generate wind noise.
Watching you guys enjoy this 90 so much has me out looking at these again. I had a Discovery Series 1 that was rock-solid and an amazing vehicle - although a bit of a tractor on-road. I had bad experiences with 2 Discovery 2s (rear air suspension in both cases) and that soured me on Land Rovers. The Defender (especially the 90) does look amazing and I suspect they’ve figured out the early teething pains. I read a lot of negative comments, but your videos all seem incredibly positive on your 90. I see a lot of these around and know a number of people who own them who all seem to enjoy them very much. Kinda waiting to see how far you goes go with this one without any real problems to make the call.
I own the original Defender here in Australia (2013 Model) and love the car. It is uncomfortable for long distances but it is a workhorse and if you maintain it regularly it wont present you with any nasty surprises, it is a very simple 4WD. The unfortunate thing about the new iteration is that they have taken the Discovery platform and threw a new body on it and called it the Defender. It still has many electrical and mechanical problems of the Disco and Range rover. The only reason they did that is to expand their sales to luxury market and they succeeded in doing so. My Defender is definitely a keeper and I am enjoying lots of touring in Australia. Cheers
@@3rdpig I own them far after warranty expires. 140k miles on mine right now. Friend of mine has one with 285k miles. Another with 120k. All on original air suspensions, transmissions and engines. Just like any brand you have to know which ones not to buy and what you're getting into. Same goes for Toyota and Honda. Someone who buys a Corolla is not the right buyer for a land rover.
Even without a locker the traction control system in this is pretty astonishing. Didn't they have this thing off road going up a rock ledge with a rear wheel in the air? But yes, I agree a real locker would be best, it's a shame it is missing.
Luckily, a good electric locker can be added for under $2k, though I would go with Torsen diffs front and back for about the same price to compliment the electronic system and benefit in every condition.
I was thinking of replacing my '21 392 XR Rubicon, which I love and think its the best Wrangler I've ever owned going back to my first, a '77 Golden Eagle 304 with a 3 speed stick. So the other day I stopped by the LR dealer and took a Defender 90 with the V8 out for a spin and was favorably impressed with the ride and handling, but it wasn't as quick as the 392 and then I looked at the sticker and it was $113K! With taxes and dealer fees (here in FL the dealers rake you over the coals on fees) it was $122K!. I paid $78K new for my 392 which is not cheap but it still runs flawlessly for the last 37 months of ownership so this is a tough call. I like the little added luxury and ride over the Jeep as I get older (I'm 72) but $122K for a slightly quieter and luxurious ride? Think I'll go take a Lexus GX550 Overtrail for a spin, that kind of hits the sweet spot for price but I'd sure miss a V8..
Land Rover's electronic traction control system is incredibly effective! Barely any wheel spin on the wheel that is in the air. Hats down to the LR engineers!
0:24 TFL, thank you for showing this kind of visual comparison of the different lengths of the Defenders. Please do more of these, like with the Expedition, Escalade, Wagoneer, and other models in multiple lengths.
wonder if Land/Range Rover gives you a HUGE discount to purchase their vehicles. They need to work on their reliablitiy issues. Also their high cost to maintain, unless you are leasing.
From my experience they aren't expensive to maintain. Current models cost no more than any other car of the same category (e.g. oil change). Old models have a large following and lots of aftermarket parts are available.
Im 20k miles into my 2023 110 and i havent had an issue with it all. only thing wrong with this car is the reverse lights and the wireless phone charger are terrible. if you decide on a 90, that's your own fault. now i will say....very expensive to repair out of pocket so whether you think it's reliable or not, owning it out of warranty will kill your pockets. even the headlights are $4k each. all that said, best car ive ever had and i will only replace it with another defender
As an owner myself the "I have 20k miles without issues" is such a classic Land Rover comment. Nobody else parrots this line more reliably (with varying low mileage) as if it's some kind of achievement. Not even going to mention the reason why you know exactly how much the headlight replacements cost.
I am considering a Defender 90 or the new Lexus GX. As a current owner of a 2018 GX with 125K miles on it and never an issue I am concerned about the Defender. A good friend with a 2022 Defender 110 had his drivers side daytime running light go out and did not have extended warranty. He was quoted $7500 to repair. The dealer ended up warranting the light. Look forward to hearing your longterm review of the 90
I'm no fan of lexus or toyota, but for the love of God don't buy the one that's almost guaranteed to break. At least toyotas are almost always reliable af. The least reliable Toyota is still better than the most reliable Land Rover.
I'd rather push my Land Rover than drive a Toyota 😃. Jokes aside, I have a Defender and they are fine. People love to hate them as others love to preach about Toyota reliability. Most haven't owned either. My dad has a 2023 Toyota Prado... I have driven it and personally don't like it anywhere near as much as my Defender. Test drive both and pick whichever one you like most, the internet is full of different opinions.
Depends on your perspective. Land Rovers are excellent machines to be in, but you have to factor in their quirks and quality issues. If you can stomach owning a peculiar and problematic European box you are in for a treat! I love Land Rovers.
Those steelies are steel, not fake. Land Rover also makes a 20" aluminum wheel that looks similar. And getting coils instead of air.... Why? The air is the best thing about a Land Rover.
@@brohammer Air suspension is reliable. Most people who have problems with the Land Rover air suspension have attempted to modify it with the dumb "lift rods" that put the suspension way out of spec when the driver also selects off road mode.
1 million people are going to tell you the limit button is a speed limiter rather the cruise control, means you can break and accelerate but won’t go over the limit set😅
Had a similar engine issue years ago with a couple Saturn VUE's, the 4cyl got much worse gas mileage than my 6cyl because the smaller engine just had to work so much harder.
I am on my second Defender 110 and have had no real issues (apart from a door lock and A pillar covers on the first one). They drive superb and are very good value for money compared to their rivals (here in Slovakia at least). The reason I got a second one was, I was looking to buy an Ineos Grenadier, but that was a real disappointment. Current models come with a 5 year, 150000km warranty, which says a lot about JLRs confidence in the quality. The quality issues are more or less a thing of the past in my opinion.
No really issues In my country it has a starting price of 89k euros - same as wrangler Sahara 4e ....ford bronco badlands 146 k euros and the new land cruiser/ prado diesel 154 k euros Well , Defender 110 hse , 257 k euros YOU DON'T KNOW HOW LUCKY YOU ARE
@@jmax850 he had a range rover? Years ago that kind of made him famous... He would make videos and write articles about how much.l CarMax and their warranty was paying for repairs. It was a LOT.
My 90 w/4cylinder works fantastic. The small boot space is easily overcome by tossing kit bags/luggage or whatever onto the back seats. Very rarely is there more than 2 of us in it. Compared to a Jeep or new Bronco 2 door the 90 provides a much more refined driving experience.
With the Defender you still have the same great dual-role thing that you had with the Disco LR3 and LR4. You can go and do some decent off-roading in the morning and then in the evening comfortably drive your wife 100 miles into the city and dine at a fancy restaurant or go to the theatre. The number of 4wd's that can successfully pull that off with panache is very small. Like many I have had mixed feelings about LR's over the years. I have probably driven 100 plus of their vehicles over the decades and our family has owned quite a few. The trick, though is to know which ones to buy (never buy a new model and always the more basic versions) and to be able to recognise when they are showing early signs of expensive repairs around the corner. Because of that we have never had Major expensive mechanical problems, but we did once buy a brand new (previous model) Defender that was a lemon that got recovered to the main dealer 4 times in the first 300 miles due to random break downs. We ended up fixing it ourselves, and it was something really obscure. It was fine after that for another 50k miles until it got traded.
OMG! What a POS! Did you see how it's already broken! There's a plastic clip that came loose on the A pillar trim! Junk! Junk! Lemon Law it! Buy a Toyota!!! (oh wait, the Rover is actually being reliable while Yota engines and transmissions and drivetrains are exploding. huh.)
I find the people who own these fascinating. While I now own a JT and once owned a Discovery, I can tell you my JT makes the Discovery look like a well oiled machine made by the gods! LR’s are just beautiful pieces of junk!
The only huge mistake is you keep buying the worst versions of the Defender and making it look bad, or incurring the most impossible problem scenarios. You skip the important locking rear diff. You skip air suspension on a car that is hugely compromised without it (and completely designed around it). You don't opt for the advanced off-road tech. Yet another 4cyl instead of a 6cyl...In terms of your reviews and tests: A new D110 that can't be fixed by anyone? A cut wiring harness on a winch install? Flat tires on a trail when you intentionally air down low profile tires. Choosing the wrong options/wheels/trims for given usage. People in the UK are convinced you are secretly undermining the brand. JLR refers to you as "TF Hell"
You are absolutely spot on!! I’ve been watching TFL’s first 110 to this. We all know LR’s problems yet this is kind of purposely & deliberately done. Also absolute poor driving skills. Even in this video he’s worried when a wheel is up, what he doesn’t understand is that the brilliant traction control is working amazingly that helped him to tackle with absolute ease.
Agreed on all points except the 4 vs 6 cyl. The 4 is fine. arguably the better choice for offroad due to lighter weight. I would choose the 6 for towing though.
Regarding the beam on the rear seat hinge of the 90 - for 2024 model year this has been engineered out by LR and also the rear seats now fold totally flat which isn’t the case with pre 2024 90’s. They added an elevated storage box that fits in the boot/trunk space that uses the original hardboard floor for its lid and that raises the floor height flush with the top of the alloy beam. It’s available as an accessory box in the U.K. from you friendly LR dealers (costs £92 inc VAT here and is made of what must be the lowest grade plastic available…..) I have retro fitted it to my 90 D250 HSE and the storage space is now enough to hold all my recovery gear that fitted easily into the under floor area that I had in my 5 seater 2020 110. It is also possible to buy replacement rear seats to the 2024 pattern but they are hellishly expensive BUT it’s quite easy to remove the cushion of the rear bench then the existing seats backs will fold into the space to give a flat load area. PowerfulUK has a video showing how to do it on their RUclips channel. Roman you guys really need to come and do a Land Experience day in the U.K. in one of the diesel engined Defenders. The straight 6 cylinder 3 ltr engine is available in 250, 300 and shortly 350hp versions (all the same engine just different maps and the bigger brake discs from the P400/P550 V8 in the 300 & 350hp models. The utility / commercial / hard top vans are proving to be very popular in this part of Scotland where farmers are abandoning their Ford and Toyota pickups for the Defender vans. My first 2020 Defender D240 never missed a beat in the 3 years/24000 miles I had it. Unfortunately my D250 90 destroyed its DPF at 9000 miles / 11 months old when a 3rd party supplied sensor failed and caused the internals to self destruct…………. that was the first issue I have had with any of the 15 Land and Range Rovers I’ve owned since 1996 and all (including 2 x Evoques and a Freelander were used off road on the Scottish hillsides.
Roman, i doubt you'll read but I really wish you guys would retry the original overlander you had. The white one and front bench seat etc.....I was looking forward to that and the other 110s just weren't the same.
Of course, it's always great to see Roman host a Moab video because, well, he's the leader of TFL, of course, and he's also on record in previous videos as saying Moab is, well, his favorite place in the world, of course. ;-) ;-)
Hey Roman. Hope your enjoying the defender. The “LIM” button allows you to toggle between active cruise control and speed limiter function. Hope that helps. JB from the UK
I'm enjoying my Defender 110 and so far no issues. I do have all the latest over the air SW Updates, and it's been very stable. I'm wondering if a lot of issues with the defender in the beginning were software related that would cause issues with hardware. Maybe the Defenders are much better now with more mature software blockpoints vs the earlier days. Time will tell, but my Defender has been reliable.
Your first review a few years ago killed my want to have a 2 dr Land Rover Defender and now your second review has not changed my mind - so please stop reviewing the 90!!!!
It's funny to me to look at small back seats and how unacceptable they are nowadays. My mom drove 2 door cars until 1998 and my dad single cab pickups until 2000. I started driving in 1996 and got a 2 door car, all my friends drove 2 door cars or single cab pickups, with a few friends with extended cab rangers with those back jump seats that folded down off the wall, you would ride in the bed of the truck unless it was raining or cold! But I'm just like everyone else now, shuttling my kids around in a crew cab truck and a 3 row suv.
Most owners are on a 36k mile lease or pay cash, with a small group on a 48-60 month loan. No one is sticking around for 100k anyway except the fringe groups. People who buy $80-100k luxury cars don't worry about reliability at 100,000 miles. Only second hand buyers and car enthusiasts fixate on long term reliability...All that said, our Land Rover has 230k miles on it and everything works just fine.
@@afellowinnewengland6142 problem is the lease crowd and other short-term owners will just do the bare minimum maintenance with the LR-prescribed 21k mile oil changes. THAT will create huge repair bills for future owners and certainly will not help the brand's reputation. They shot themselves in the foot with their ridiculous maintenance intervals.
Yeah sorry I have to call BS on that. That would put them in the low 50s, or roughly 25% off. More likely the dealer is playing games with the numbers OR its somehow being advertised as new but was actually a demo or loaner.
Land Rovers were never desired for their reliability. They come as is and If you know their capabilities and love them, then you ought to know the compromises.. The constant beating on a dead horse with the reliability argument by haters just to vent out and dissuade people is silly.
The funny thing is the people who scream about LR reliability are the ones praising Toyota. Well all of a sudden Toyota is having more reliability issues than LR!
The toyota people have nothing to brag about if they don't have the reliability argument. They have to beat that horse to justify all the compromises of buying a Toyota.
@@krover01 yes, but some brands are much more fault prone than others. And to answer your question specifically, the notorious unreliability of the brand, especially as compared to other manufacturers.
The rear seats of any two door vehicle are for storage, not bipeds 😅 I do agree though, as it's a UK design...way better to have four people pushing 😅😂😅😅😅
I think I’d love one and then I think probably a CRV has more capability than I’d ever need. I figure if Roman or Tommy grimace it must be bad, they have a lot of off roading hours!
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I love this spec of the defender and would buy one when are you going to sell it ?
@ the question was somewhat rhetorical. Of course we all know no person with a child would ever buy this truck. Land Rover knows that as well. This thing has baby boomer / gen x written all over it. The kids are long gone by the time you purchased this thing.
Why would any parent with kids and car seats buy the smaller 2-dr? You wouldn't unless it's not the family's primary vehicle and kids ride in it only on rare occasions.
The answer is yes, because it is content that has been done too many times by others. Mix it up. Try something else. I'd say the same about buying a 2025 Wrangler for content. It is time to show something different. Not many are doing long form content for the GX550. I'd say the Genadier, but for some reason you seemed to immediately pull away from that platform. After all the trouble the first few defenders gave TFL, I have to wonder what conversations are being had with LR to continue content.
Roman buys the cars that help with his nostalgia, like that stupid BMW i8 that literally nobody asked for or even remembers these days. When they DID have something different = the Grenadier... JLR told them if they ever want to keep working together they better make that thing disappear and what do you know... within like 3 weeks of buying it, it was already sold off for something else... barely did anything with it at all. I dont take TFL, especially Roman seriously at all anymore. Hes just another influencer doing what he can to get rich and continue living in his $3 million dollar McMansion in Boulder while all the employees can barely afford a new vehicle themselves.
Maaatte….. youse shoulda got a Yota! 2 million miles without an oil change. Drives over high rise buildings. Travels US to UK in the water. Takes out dinosaurs without a scratch. You’ll never get a Rover to do that!!! 😂
I don’t know why anyone buys these now that the new GX550 exists. Between the Defenders fisher price interior and its mechanical challenges, I don’t get who buys these. Worth half in 1.5 years.
Roman can't be bothered to Google adaptive speed limiter to figure out how to use the feature. There is even a RUclips video tutorial. However, ignorance is king at TFL.
How this brand survives is beyond comprehension. Besides the absolute mechanical nightmares under the hood (and otherwise throughout)… It's the ultimate valley girl toy car. When I see a man driving one of these, I just shake my head.
The brand survives for one very simple reason - They are not as bad as the haters would tell you. These days reliability is pretty good and they are great cars. That's why people keep buying them. Those that know know.
They do have a soccer mom reputation. But that makes it all the more fun for the few of us who actually take them out on trails in a sea of Jeeps and 4Runners. :)
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The longest door that I've ever seen was on a 1980 Ford Granada. I swear it was at least 6' long or really close to it.
Judging from all sources, anyone buying any Land Rover product is quite literally asking for and accepting the inevitable trouble. Pretty sure they're at the top of the list when it comes to depreciating assets!
Funny they did buy a Grenadier but JLR made it very clear if they didnt get rid of it, they were done getting loans. And golly gee, what do you know.. in just 3 weeks their Ineos quietly disappeared barely to ever be mentioned again. But yes, this was his hairdressers car, and I wouldnt be shocked if her actual name was Karen
There is something fun, though. about taking a Karen car out on the trails and breezing through every obstacle. That being said I love the Grenadier too and would consider buying one, but only because it's unique (for now). Aside from that, as much as it hurts me to say it, I don't see much a value proposition. It's priced as a luxury offroader, but doesn't deliver in the luxury department and actually has less ground clearance than the Defender due to lack of air suspension. If I'm not mistaken the seats don't fold flat either, so car camping is a no-go.
Not enough engine, that's why you never buy the smallest engine. Also you get basic brakes, cooling electrical etc. Then there is horse power to weight ratio, bad.
I got on the configurator for LR the other day and it starts at $70k. just can't do it. at $53k i guess it makes slightly more sense. Yeah, right now some jeeps are that expensive, but that won't last, hopefully. but the MPG is a joke- my 2014 grand cherokee HEMI 5.7 with cylinder deactivation averaged 24mpg between grand junction and denver. my wife's BMW x1 with a 2liter turbo averaged 37mpg, of course that was a smaller car.
40k plus miles on my 2020 D110 first edition and not one single issue…. No rock crawling but plenty of snow covered roads, sandy beaches, and muddy trails throughout New England….
the key is the warranty period/ miles. They didn't come up with those limits by chance.
It’s ashame reliability is not standard on the defender, but they should at least offer it as an option.
You mean like the new Toyotas?
@ I wouldn’t touch either one of them.
😏 Couldn't afford to touch them 😂 how many Land Rovers are still on the Road?
@@krover01 Umm new Toyota's are by FAR the most reliable vehicles out there TROLL!
Reliability isn’t standard on any modern vehicle. Speak with techs at dealers for any brand.
15 months of ownership of a 2023 Defender 90. Haven’t had any issues with it yet and after 25 years of Jeeps I’m glad I switched.
@@kilohotel6750 24 months here, 0 minor or major issues
52,000 trouble free miles on my D110 so far. Doing better than our 4runner which had a faulty radiator replaced at 15,000 miles or our Jeep which had a faulty differential new from the factory. People love to hate Land Rover but so far it seems to be the only car that hasn't left me stranded in three decades of driving.
If JLR mounted a Manhattan Project to solve their build quality and reliability issues, they'd be unstoppable. The latest Defender is incredibly attractive.
My takeaway is that Roman is happy that it has lasted 5000 miles so far. 😅
I have had my base engine 90 for 3 years(34,000 miles) and zero issues.
You don’t have to hold the button to move the seats forward. To move the seats back just hit the preset on the door
On my 110, I made preset 3 push the seat all the way forward. Solves most the issue. I’d actually prefer an option for a well made manual seat, but I might be the only buyer for it.
I own a Defender 110 - it’s been flawless for 3 years. For those complaining about depreciation and maintenance costs I would say: maybe a car isn’t for you - any car. They all have depreciation and maintenance costs.
yeah everyone complains but its always the first year models that have issues. my next door neighbor has a 2012 range rover with 189k miles on it and loves it. less issues than his mercedes or bmw.
Some cars don't depreciate that much, I'm told the Jimny JB 74 costs more used than a new one!!
@clooperman3745 yeah they do ... Look at Tesla
Great review. In terms of reliability, I own a 2014 RR Sport, well maintained, more conservative regarding the oil change than what JLR is advertising, so basically, every 5k for the oil change. It now has 168k on the odometer, running strong, no issues. Love my Sport. My next one? A Defender 130, applying the same principles in maintenance 😊. Thanks for the video! Best wishes from 🇨🇦
What engine you have petrol or diesel?
@@thayalansuntharalingam America doesn't get the diesel !!
I do the same thing on my LR4, 5.0 V8, 151K great miles
@@arkhsm USA LR didn't used to sell DIESELS after 2016 diesel is available on all models as far as I know
18" fake steelies? The 20's are aluminum but the 18's are steel.
These guys shouldn’t be reviewing any car. Lot of incorrect info
They are now white painted alloy wheels as of 2024.
We have a lot to love in Norway, but our authorithies don't understand much about the need for utility cars and we would love to get such as this Defender like a utility vehicle without paying 80.000 USD in taxes because the authorithies think everyone who are serving them with their needed hydropower, geotecnichs or hydrogelogical issues can use an 2wd electric van with an optimistic range of 150 miles on flat paved roads with
for those slippery load-space floors - get a rubber floor mat set that will include one for the load-space. My LR dealer included these for free in the ones I bought new (last one a lowly Disco Sport). Also, go for diesel for towing grunt & economy. Don't be put off by the reputation - I've owned 7 LRs and done 400,000 miles in 27 year. Only broke down on the road twice - once a brake servo failure (25 years ago), once my fault when I wrong fuelled a diesel with petrol. Enjoy!
Good video Roman ! As a fellow 90 owner I find it incredibly rare I have passengers in the back.
I typically have my rear seats folded down 99% of the time.
LR does have a kit for a rear storage platform kit that levels off with that rear seat
floor transition and has some nice storage under the lid. I have that kit in mine.
I also added some large thick black bath towels and a rear rubber cargo liner that really seem to cure the cargo sliding around and protects the interior nicely.
I like most 2 door SUVs since they do tend to have larger front doors which that tends to make sure I don't have door post in my shoulder or obstructing my visibility. Longer doors means that door post is further back out of the way. Which I really like that about the 2 door Dender as well as my prior 2 door Bronco.
Overall, I agree with you, I do love my Defender 90.
If you press the speed limit switch while traveling at say, 30mph, while active it will now limit your speed to 30mph. This can actually be useful in parts of Europe where you find average speed cameras. Set your speed to 1 or 2 mph under the speed limit which prohibits you from inadvertently wandering over the limit thus avoiding a ticket. Similar systems are fitted by other manufactures in Europe. I had a Ford with a similar set-up.
Its the law in europe but the fact there are cameras averaging your speed means they just want your money not your safety
@@Chris-hw4mq it's no law in europe to have speed limiters. Mercedes had within it's cruise controls since the 80's.
What is a new law in europe since 2024 is the alarming by going over the speed limit but you still can accelerate.
The limiter on the other hand cuts down your power at the certain speed.
I was looking for this comment and realy surprised that Roman didn't know about the limiter.
@@Chris-hw4mq Seeing some of the roads that I've seen this applied to, I have to agree, it's just there to generate income.
Dang! I hope the Draconian speed laws do not become widely used throughout the US.
To all those worried about reliability- don't. These cars share nothing with Land Rovers of the past and are very durable. Our 2021 D110 has had ZERO problems or repairs since it was new. I drive 16,000 miles a year-six days a week and use it for heavy towing. I've had BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Acura, VW and Toyota. The Land Rover is the only one that hasn't required a repair under warranty or a roadside assistance call...Of course, guys love to tell me at every gas station they have a lot of problems and I should get a different brand...sigh
You're the exception to the rule, it sounds like.
The 90 on springs is the best for taking off road the green and white also looks great great content guys many thanks
I've had my 4-cyl Defender 90 for three years. I do my own oil, filter changes, and tire rotations, and haven't stepped foot into the dealership since picking it up new in December of '21. Maybe I got lucky with a good one? Maybe everybody parroting the reliability issues "who knew a guy who knew a guy" should stick to taking the bus.
No problems in a whole 5000 miles? Wow, what a great vehicle!!! And yes, the fact you won't keep it when it's out of warranty tells me all I need or want to know about it. But as an ex Land Rover owner, I already knew that.
Well, it does have more than 5000 miles on it, but what do you want them to do? They can only comment as they put on miles, and they've been doing exactly that. 2 months, 5000 miles is pretty good use. What will they find after another 50,000? Can't say - nor can anybody else.
I guess they could have bought a new toyota. Because THOSE have been demonstrating all the reliability! 🤣 But let's be serious, if reliability is the only metric you measure a vehicle on you probably shouldn't be looking at luxury or enthusiast vehicles at all and stick to generic boring and safe Japanese things. You know, except new toyotas.
As a Defender owner myself... reliability isn't the only metric, but it matters a lot. Warranties on the earliest Defenders only started expiring recently. Issues will start piling up, particularly for lease returns and others who followed the LR-prescribed oil change schedule (21k miles).
And "let's be serious" very few Defender owners are enthusiasts in any sense of the word. Most won't see anything resembling a trail until the 3rd or 4th owner decides to swap the 22" wheels for something less useless and remove the equally useless raised air intake that does almost nothing but generate wind noise.
They don’t keep any vehicle past warrantee, so every vehicle must be no more reliable than the Defender by your metric.
Land Rovers are good to tow 3500kgs in the UK & Europe with overrun brakes and 4000kgs with powered trailer brakes.
Watching you guys enjoy this 90 so much has me out looking at these again. I had a Discovery Series 1 that was rock-solid and an amazing vehicle - although a bit of a tractor on-road. I had bad experiences with 2 Discovery 2s (rear air suspension in both cases) and that soured me on Land Rovers. The Defender (especially the 90) does look amazing and I suspect they’ve figured out the early teething pains. I read a lot of negative comments, but your videos all seem incredibly positive on your 90. I see a lot of these around and know a number of people who own them who all seem to enjoy them very much. Kinda waiting to see how far you goes go with this one without any real problems to make the call.
I own the original Defender here in Australia (2013 Model) and love the car. It is uncomfortable for long distances but it is a workhorse and if you maintain it regularly it wont present you with any nasty surprises, it is a very simple 4WD.
The unfortunate thing about the new iteration is that they have taken the Discovery platform and threw a new body on it and called it the Defender. It still has many electrical and mechanical problems of the Disco and Range rover. The only reason they did that is to expand their sales to luxury market and they succeeded in doing so.
My Defender is definitely a keeper and I am enjoying lots of touring in Australia.
Cheers
People that love to hate rovers have no experience with them
People who love rovers don't own them after warranty ends and the super expensive repairs come along.
Poor people hate them cause they cant repair them
@@TreatsOnTheStreets wealthy people who are smart don’t want to waste their wealth stay away from LRs because they are all money pits.
@@3rdpig I own them far after warranty expires. 140k miles on mine right now. Friend of mine has one with 285k miles. Another with 120k. All on original air suspensions, transmissions and engines. Just like any brand you have to know which ones not to buy and what you're getting into. Same goes for Toyota and Honda. Someone who buys a Corolla is not the right buyer for a land rover.
Correct 👍
I’d be fine with the coil springs but the no rear locker on this? That’s a shame.
Even without a locker the traction control system in this is pretty astonishing. Didn't they have this thing off road going up a rock ledge with a rear wheel in the air?
But yes, I agree a real locker would be best, it's a shame it is missing.
Luckily, a good electric locker can be added for under $2k, though I would go with Torsen diffs front and back for about the same price to compliment the electronic system and benefit in every condition.
Not opting for the factory locker or advanced off-road tech is just ridiculous on a D90.
I was thinking of replacing my '21 392 XR Rubicon, which I love and think its the best Wrangler I've ever owned going back to my first, a '77 Golden Eagle 304 with a 3 speed stick. So the other day I stopped by the LR dealer and took a Defender 90 with the V8 out for a spin and was favorably impressed with the ride and handling, but it wasn't as quick as the 392 and then I looked at the sticker and it was $113K! With taxes and dealer fees (here in FL the dealers rake you over the coals on fees) it was $122K!. I paid $78K new for my 392 which is not cheap but it still runs flawlessly for the last 37 months of ownership so this is a tough call.
I like the little added luxury and ride over the Jeep as I get older (I'm 72) but $122K for a slightly quieter and luxurious ride? Think I'll go take a Lexus GX550 Overtrail for a spin, that kind of hits the sweet spot for price but I'd sure miss a V8..
Keep the Jeep!
Have you priced a new 392, they are over $100K now. If you like your Jeep, keep driving it, nothing out there sounds like the old V8.
My Boss bought a Land Rover for his wife. he said "I think I got a lemon". I said no you got a Land Rover
I think he was talking about his wife.
I have owned 5 without issues.
@@MTROVER1I have owned 5 all WITH issues.
@@GunsAndRoverstoo bad for you. I had a different experience. Now my Jeep GC died in less than 3 years with parts failing off as a I was driving.
Land Rover's electronic traction control system is incredibly effective! Barely any wheel spin on the wheel that is in the air.
Hats down to the LR engineers!
Just drove my 110 from Maine to NC ... 1000 miles over 16 hours. Flawless. Not a single problem. 20mpg with the expedition rack.
I love my 90 and I am determined to keep it forever, whatever the cost.
Don’t tell your dealer that.
@husshardan3511 🤫😜
Land Rover ownership I am most interested in is what happens between 60 and 120,000 mi. I guess that's why I bought an lr3 😊
Pretty cool actually. I'm gonna stick with my LR3 for now.
0:24 TFL, thank you for showing this kind of visual comparison of the different lengths of the Defenders. Please do more of these, like with the Expedition, Escalade, Wagoneer, and other models in multiple lengths.
wonder if Land/Range Rover gives you a HUGE discount to purchase their vehicles. They need to work on their reliablitiy issues. Also their high cost to maintain, unless you are leasing.
From my experience they aren't expensive to maintain. Current models cost no more than any other car of the same category (e.g. oil change). Old models have a large following and lots of aftermarket parts are available.
@@michalrajnic758 owned by tata and still unreliable, there are way better vehicles in that category but each their own.
Im 20k miles into my 2023 110 and i havent had an issue with it all. only thing wrong with this car is the reverse lights and the wireless phone charger are terrible. if you decide on a 90, that's your own fault. now i will say....very expensive to repair out of pocket so whether you think it's reliable or not, owning it out of warranty will kill your pockets. even the headlights are $4k each. all that said, best car ive ever had and i will only replace it with another defender
As an owner myself the "I have 20k miles without issues" is such a classic Land Rover comment. Nobody else parrots this line more reliably (with varying low mileage) as if it's some kind of achievement. Not even going to mention the reason why you know exactly how much the headlight replacements cost.
@LaunchpadGP definitely need to preface it so people don't think I'm speaking for a million miles of experience
Lexus LX 700 hybrid All New Best City and Off Road Truck
I am considering a Defender 90 or the new Lexus GX. As a current owner of a 2018 GX with 125K miles on it and never an issue I am concerned about the Defender. A good friend with a 2022 Defender 110 had his drivers side daytime running light go out and did not have extended warranty. He was quoted $7500 to repair. The dealer ended up warranting the light. Look forward to hearing your longterm review of the 90
I'm no fan of lexus or toyota, but for the love of God don't buy the one that's almost guaranteed to break. At least toyotas are almost always reliable af. The least reliable Toyota is still better than the most reliable Land Rover.
@ 100% agree Thanks
Get the Lexus
Considering??? The Lexus is a tank that will never break down. You need a scan tool and need to be a certified LR mechanic to own a LR.
I'd rather push my Land Rover than drive a Toyota 😃. Jokes aside, I have a Defender and they are fine. People love to hate them as others love to preach about Toyota reliability. Most haven't owned either. My dad has a 2023 Toyota Prado... I have driven it and personally don't like it anywhere near as much as my Defender. Test drive both and pick whichever one you like most, the internet is full of different opinions.
Depends on your perspective. Land Rovers are excellent machines to be in, but you have to factor in their quirks and quality issues. If you can stomach owning a peculiar and problematic European box you are in for a treat! I love Land Rovers.
lol stop saying they are "fake" steelies. They are REAL.
Those steelies are steel, not fake. Land Rover also makes a 20" aluminum wheel that looks similar.
And getting coils instead of air.... Why? The air is the best thing about a Land Rover.
They didn’t choose… but less to break
@@brohammer Air suspension is reliable. Most people who have problems with the Land Rover air suspension have attempted to modify it with the dumb "lift rods" that put the suspension way out of spec when the driver also selects off road mode.
@@rl9810 I’ll take your word for it. Never owned one and probably never will. Just going off what Roman says
@@brohammer Same guy who doesn't know the steel wheels on his car are steel and not "fake steelies?"
@ yes he made a small mistake. However he knows and has driven many land rovers and does this for a living
1 million people are going to tell you the limit button is a speed limiter rather the cruise control, means you can break and accelerate but won’t go over the limit set😅
Had a similar engine issue years ago with a couple Saturn VUE's, the 4cyl got much worse gas mileage than my 6cyl because the smaller engine just had to work so much harder.
Replace it with Lexus gx550 overtrail+
I am on my second Defender 110 and have had no real issues (apart from a door lock and A pillar covers on the first one). They drive superb and are very good value for money compared to their rivals (here in Slovakia at least). The reason I got a second one was, I was looking to buy an Ineos Grenadier, but that was a real disappointment. Current models come with a 5 year, 150000km warranty, which says a lot about JLRs confidence in the quality. The quality issues are more or less a thing of the past in my opinion.
"What about reliability?"
Ask Doug Demuro.
@@IronmanV5 and CarMax 😄
His Defender didn’t have any problems did it?
No really issues
In my country it has a starting price of 89k euros - same as wrangler Sahara 4e ....ford bronco badlands 146 k euros and the new land cruiser/ prado diesel 154 k euros
Well , Defender 110 hse , 257 k euros
YOU DON'T KNOW HOW LUCKY YOU ARE
@@jmax850 he had a range rover? Years ago that kind of made him famous... He would make videos and write articles about how much.l CarMax and their warranty was paying for repairs. It was a LOT.
@@volvo09 a 2006 Range Rover and a 2021 Defender are very different vehicles
My 90 w/4cylinder works fantastic. The small boot space is easily overcome by tossing kit bags/luggage or whatever onto the back seats.
Very rarely is there more than 2 of us in it.
Compared to a Jeep or new Bronco 2 door the 90 provides a much more refined driving experience.
With the Defender you still have the same great dual-role thing that you had with the Disco LR3 and LR4. You can go and do some decent off-roading in the morning and then in the evening comfortably drive your wife 100 miles into the city and dine at a fancy restaurant or go to the theatre. The number of 4wd's that can successfully pull that off with panache is very small. Like many I have had mixed feelings about LR's over the years. I have probably driven 100 plus of their vehicles over the decades and our family has owned quite a few. The trick, though is to know which ones to buy (never buy a new model and always the more basic versions) and to be able to recognise when they are showing early signs of expensive repairs around the corner. Because of that we have never had Major expensive mechanical problems, but we did once buy a brand new (previous model) Defender that was a lemon that got recovered to the main dealer 4 times in the first 300 miles due to random break downs. We ended up fixing it ourselves, and it was something really obscure. It was fine after that for another 50k miles until it got traded.
OMG! What a POS! Did you see how it's already broken! There's a plastic clip that came loose on the A pillar trim! Junk! Junk! Lemon Law it! Buy a Toyota!!! (oh wait, the Rover is actually being reliable while Yota engines and transmissions and drivetrains are exploding. huh.)
I find the people who own these fascinating. While I now own a JT and once owned a Discovery, I can tell you my JT makes the Discovery look like a well oiled machine made by the gods! LR’s are just beautiful pieces of junk!
The only huge mistake is you keep buying the worst versions of the Defender and making it look bad, or incurring the most impossible problem scenarios. You skip the important locking rear diff. You skip air suspension on a car that is hugely compromised without it (and completely designed around it). You don't opt for the advanced off-road tech. Yet another 4cyl instead of a 6cyl...In terms of your reviews and tests: A new D110 that can't be fixed by anyone? A cut wiring harness on a winch install? Flat tires on a trail when you intentionally air down low profile tires. Choosing the wrong options/wheels/trims for given usage. People in the UK are convinced you are secretly undermining the brand. JLR refers to you as "TF Hell"
You are absolutely spot on!! I’ve been watching TFL’s first 110 to this. We all know LR’s problems yet this is kind of purposely & deliberately done. Also absolute poor driving skills. Even in this video he’s worried when a wheel is up, what he doesn’t understand is that the brilliant traction control is working amazingly that helped him to tackle with absolute ease.
Agreed on all points except the 4 vs 6 cyl. The 4 is fine. arguably the better choice for offroad due to lighter weight. I would choose the 6 for towing though.
The “limit” button is to put your speed limiter. Instead of cruisecontrole some people use it
A literal triumph of Hope over experience
Regarding the beam on the rear seat hinge of the 90 - for 2024 model year this has been engineered out by LR and also the rear seats now fold totally flat which isn’t the case with pre 2024 90’s. They added an elevated storage box that fits in the boot/trunk space that uses the original hardboard floor for its lid and that raises the floor height flush with the top of the alloy beam. It’s available as an accessory box in the U.K. from you friendly LR dealers (costs £92 inc VAT here and is made of what must be the lowest grade plastic available…..) I have retro fitted it to my 90 D250 HSE and the storage space is now enough to hold all my recovery gear that fitted easily into the under floor area that I had in my 5 seater 2020 110. It is also possible to buy replacement rear seats to the 2024 pattern but they are hellishly expensive BUT it’s quite easy to remove the cushion of the rear bench then the existing seats backs will fold into the space to give a flat load area. PowerfulUK has a video showing how to do it on their RUclips channel.
Roman you guys really need to come and do a Land Experience day in the U.K. in one of the diesel engined Defenders. The straight 6 cylinder 3 ltr engine is available in 250, 300 and shortly 350hp versions (all the same engine just different maps and the bigger brake discs from the P400/P550 V8 in the 300 & 350hp models. The utility / commercial / hard top vans are proving to be very popular in this part of Scotland where farmers are abandoning their Ford and Toyota pickups for the Defender vans.
My first 2020 Defender D240 never missed a beat in the 3 years/24000 miles I had it. Unfortunately my D250 90 destroyed its DPF at 9000 miles / 11 months old when a 3rd party supplied sensor failed and caused the internals to self destruct…………. that was the first issue I have had with any of the 15 Land and Range Rovers I’ve owned since 1996 and all (including 2 x Evoques and a Freelander were used off road on the Scottish hillsides.
Roman, i doubt you'll read but I really wish you guys would retry the original overlander you had. The white one and front bench seat etc.....I was looking forward to that and the other 110s just weren't the same.
I can't imagine waiting that long in the rain
Of course, it's always great to see Roman host a Moab video because, well, he's the leader of TFL, of course, and he's also on record in previous videos as saying Moab is, well, his favorite place in the world, of course. ;-) ;-)
Hey Roman. Hope your enjoying the defender. The “LIM” button allows you to toggle between active cruise control and speed limiter function. Hope that helps. JB from the UK
Yes you did, hot on the heels of selling the Grenny.
I'm enjoying my Defender 110 and so far no issues. I do have all the latest over the air SW Updates, and it's been very stable. I'm wondering if a lot of issues with the defender in the beginning were software related that would cause issues with hardware. Maybe the Defenders are much better now with more mature software blockpoints vs the earlier days. Time will tell, but my Defender has been reliable.
The limit button is set after your cruise is set so your speed doesn't exceed what you set it at..it switches between adaptive and regular to maintain
Back to the basics. I'm liking this.
'Basics'? You would love a real Defender then.... 😂
Short answer,yes!
Your first review a few years ago killed my want to have a 2 dr Land Rover Defender and now your second review has not changed my mind - so please stop reviewing the 90!!!!
You can stop watching too
@@krover01 ok
0:00, yes, answered the title question. next video
Roman videos, WOO HOO! exorcising demons of bad ownership experiences past!
I feel you!
Can you please for once and all confirm that you are rover boys
It's funny to me to look at small back seats and how unacceptable they are nowadays. My mom drove 2 door cars until 1998 and my dad single cab pickups until 2000. I started driving in 1996 and got a 2 door car, all my friends drove 2 door cars or single cab pickups, with a few friends with extended cab rangers with those back jump seats that folded down off the wall, you would ride in the bed of the truck unless it was raining or cold! But I'm just like everyone else now, shuttling my kids around in a crew cab truck and a 3 row suv.
Like Jaguars and BMWs, these are great cars during the warranty period.
I find it very bland and ordinary from the front. Real soft roader with zero to interest. So for me its a pass on the looks.
my fav RUclips channel
I think you would have basically no issues in the first 100,000 but past that you are probably on borrowed time before getting a huge repair bill.
…Unless you buy a pre pandemic Toyota truck.
Not sure what off road capable vehicle you can still buy that isn’t going to have this risk. Are you?
Habe meinen Disco 5 3.0 Diesel jetzt 101.000 km ohne Probleme ausser 2 neue Fensterheber.
Most owners are on a 36k mile lease or pay cash, with a small group on a 48-60 month loan. No one is sticking around for 100k anyway except the fringe groups. People who buy $80-100k luxury cars don't worry about reliability at 100,000 miles. Only second hand buyers and car enthusiasts fixate on long term reliability...All that said, our Land Rover has 230k miles on it and everything works just fine.
@@afellowinnewengland6142 problem is the lease crowd and other short-term owners will just do the bare minimum maintenance with the LR-prescribed 21k mile oil changes. THAT will create huge repair bills for future owners and certainly will not help the brand's reputation. They shot themselves in the foot with their ridiculous maintenance intervals.
Yes.
Lessons learned out the window.
I think my dealer is losing money on these with 110 p300. they currently have 17,000 off MSRP for 2024 models and financed at 0.99%
Yeah sorry I have to call BS on that. That would put them in the low 50s, or roughly 25% off. More likely the dealer is playing games with the numbers OR its somehow being advertised as new but was actually a demo or loaner.
Nice graphics. I like the new style.
Land Rovers were never desired for their reliability.
They come as is and If you know their capabilities and love them, then you ought to know the compromises..
The constant beating on a dead horse with the reliability argument by haters just to vent out and dissuade people is silly.
The funny thing is the people who scream about LR reliability are the ones praising Toyota. Well all of a sudden Toyota is having more reliability issues than LR!
As opposed to fan bois who turn a blind eye to all faults?
The toyota people have nothing to brag about if they don't have the reliability argument. They have to beat that horse to justify all the compromises of buying a Toyota.
@@BenLapke what faults? All cars have faults or compromises
@@krover01 yes, but some brands are much more fault prone than others. And to answer your question specifically, the notorious unreliability of the brand, especially as compared to other manufacturers.
The rear seats of any two door vehicle are for storage, not bipeds 😅 I do agree though, as it's a UK design...way better to have four people pushing 😅😂😅😅😅
I think I’d love one and then I think probably a CRV has more capability than I’d ever need. I figure if Roman or Tommy grimace it must be bad, they have a lot of off roading hours!
I love this spec of the defender and would buy one when are you going to sell it ?
Maybe you should drive the car at 70MPH for a MPG comparo
Gah, I want one so bad. When my LR3 finally meets its maker this isn't on the shortlist for replacing it. it is the list.
I need to remember American gallons are smaller than British gallons. I was getting 20mpg from a V8 defender. (Which is 16 miles per American gallon)
I stopped watching the channel months ago because of Romain, first time I've tried to watch one again in a while and I just can't with this guy.
How would you get a kid out of the back in an emergency???
I was thinking the SAME thing. It’s a glaring hazard.
@ the question was somewhat rhetorical. Of course we all know no person with a child would ever buy this truck. Land Rover knows that as well. This thing has baby boomer / gen x written all over it. The kids are long gone by the time you purchased this thing.
* tick, tick, tick, tick *
Make sure you flip it on its side and use the sunroof
Why would any parent with kids and car seats buy the smaller 2-dr? You wouldn't unless it's not the family's primary vehicle and kids ride in it only on rare occasions.
The 2 best days owning a Land Rover: The day you buy it and the day you sell it (if it still runs that is).
The answer is yes, because it is content that has been done too many times by others. Mix it up. Try something else. I'd say the same about buying a 2025 Wrangler for content. It is time to show something different. Not many are doing long form content for the GX550. I'd say the Genadier, but for some reason you seemed to immediately pull away from that platform. After all the trouble the first few defenders gave TFL, I have to wonder what conversations are being had with LR to continue content.
Roman buys the cars that help with his nostalgia, like that stupid BMW i8 that literally nobody asked for or even remembers these days. When they DID have something different = the Grenadier... JLR told them if they ever want to keep working together they better make that thing disappear and what do you know... within like 3 weeks of buying it, it was already sold off for something else... barely did anything with it at all. I dont take TFL, especially Roman seriously at all anymore. Hes just another influencer doing what he can to get rich and continue living in his $3 million dollar McMansion in Boulder while all the employees can barely afford a new vehicle themselves.
Maaatte….. youse shoulda got a Yota!
2 million miles without an oil change.
Drives over high rise buildings.
Travels US to UK in the water.
Takes out dinosaurs without a scratch.
You’ll never get a Rover to do that!!! 😂
I don’t know why anyone buys these now that the new GX550 exists. Between the Defenders fisher price interior and its mechanical challenges, I don’t get who buys these. Worth half in 1.5 years.
Yes yes you did, also looks like you overpaid by 5-10k for this
Roman can't be bothered to Google adaptive speed limiter to figure out how to use the feature. There is even a RUclips video tutorial. However, ignorance is king at TFL.
How this brand survives is beyond comprehension. Besides the absolute mechanical nightmares under the hood (and otherwise throughout)… It's the ultimate valley girl toy car. When I see a man driving one of these, I just shake my head.
The brand survives for one very simple reason - They are not as bad as the haters would tell you. These days reliability is pretty good and they are great cars. That's why people keep buying them. Those that know know.
They do have a soccer mom reputation. But that makes it all the more fun for the few of us who actually take them out on trails in a sea of Jeeps and 4Runners. :)
The longest door that I've ever seen was on a 1980 Ford Granada. I swear it was at least 6' long or really close to it.
Judging from all sources, anyone buying any Land Rover product is quite literally asking for and accepting the inevitable trouble. Pretty sure they're at the top of the list when it comes to depreciating assets!
That is one of the dumbest vehicles made, 100% a Karen car. Don’t be a Karen. Buy a Genadier.
Funny they did buy a Grenadier but JLR made it very clear if they didnt get rid of it, they were done getting loans. And golly gee, what do you know.. in just 3 weeks their Ineos quietly disappeared barely to ever be mentioned again.
But yes, this was his hairdressers car, and I wouldnt be shocked if her actual name was Karen
@ 🤣🤣🤣
There is something fun, though. about taking a Karen car out on the trails and breezing through every obstacle.
That being said I love the Grenadier too and would consider buying one, but only because it's unique (for now). Aside from that, as much as it hurts me to say it, I don't see much a value proposition. It's priced as a luxury offroader, but doesn't deliver in the luxury department and actually has less ground clearance than the Defender due to lack of air suspension.
If I'm not mistaken the seats don't fold flat either, so car camping is a no-go.
Yes you did.
Not enough engine, that's why you never buy the smallest engine. Also you get basic brakes, cooling electrical etc. Then there is horse power to weight ratio, bad.
The bot posts here are hilarious. The host of this video is inspirong.❤
I wish Defenders weren't garbage.
What kind of coat is Roman wearing? We need a model number.
Kudos to LR for keeping the 2door but no way in hell would I buy one.
I got on the configurator for LR the other day and it starts at $70k. just can't do it. at $53k i guess it makes slightly more sense. Yeah, right now some jeeps are that expensive, but that won't last, hopefully. but the MPG is a joke- my 2014 grand cherokee HEMI 5.7 with cylinder deactivation averaged 24mpg between grand junction and denver. my wife's BMW x1 with a 2liter turbo averaged 37mpg, of course that was a smaller car.
I wish you would keep it long term to see how it holds up.
39,000 miles on my '22 Defender 110 SE, no problems to report. It has been flawless and I don't have to drive an ugly, boring Toyota.
Honest question: nowadays, is in the market any good and reliable British car brand?