Canadian Club Chronicles 41yr Review
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- Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2020
- Listed as one of the "Best Whiskeys in the World" by someone who has a new best whiskey in the world every year, the gents try a 41-year-old Canadian staple aged in Rye barrels.
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Big thanks to Rory MacDonald for the bottle. Cheers ya MB!
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This was barreled in 1979 at the latest. If these barrels were heavily used already (figuring 3x at 5 years) let's say the barrel was made in 1964. If that oak tree was 75 years old when harvested, you're tasting the flavor of a tree that sprouted in the 1890's. Talk about history.
Found this in the Windsor Star:
The whisky was aged in once-used white American oak barrels that came from sister company Jim Beam. After receiving the barrels, Canadian Club gave them an “aggressive char.”
Distilled in 1977, they've released a 40, 41, 42 and 43 so far. There is meant to be a 44, a 45 and a 50 yet to come.
It's a shit whisky!
@@robinsharkey6658 Which one? All editions in the chronicles series are at least 9% and up to 18% different from one another.
@@LOLOLOLOL6610 all of them were super boring and overpriced. Only redeeming quality was now I have a nice decanter for my Canadian Infinity bottle.
The good news: You can always have a whisky older than yourself. The bad news: It's Canadian Club. (I'm Canadian btw)
I know the feeling.
Honestly, I love Canadian Club, especially their Rye.
Bet you haven't even seen this bottle, I can say that I haven't.
I remember one year my cousin finished my whisky (without premision) and agreed to replace but instead of getting me tye same bottle bought me canadian club. My first taste I spat it out it was so bad. (I am Canadian)
Either you guys like just bourbon or you guys bought the wrong stuff. Have you guys had the aged stuff or just the generic CC,
the age does make the difference.
I like to mix it most of the time but for sipping, I agree, theres better choices for straight sipping.
Maybe try the Rye?
Maybe you guys had the 9% wine mixture 😅
i seen it today for 2 or 342 i forget which one lol
Back in college we just called Canadian club "CC" it was the whiskey of choice because of price, always just mixed it. Wisers was always always my favourite Canadian rye, very smooth. but I've grown to prefer Speyside scotches now a days.
Holy shit, Rory Macdonald!!! His name is even signed on the bottle!
The laphroaig/lagavulin on the wall is turning into a war of attrition. My money is on Emma.
I find myself humming "The Bottle Lord" whenever I'm shopping or reaching for something special in the back of my cabinet now...
Request: Rex does whole episode talking like Jack Nicholson.
It's not a rumour. I had the 41 on my 41st, 42 on my 42nd (last Sept) and buying the 43 for next year. It's not a bad whiskey, and is around $300cdn. About $230 freedom dollars.
Sadly, my Dry Week Challenge has lasted for about 8 years. As my Doctor and my Wife have conspired against me to say that I'm not allowed to have alcohol. But I can still enjoy the reviews and banter while I dream of one day operating my own still.
Currently working through a bottle of 8yr Canadian Club. This was a great comparison to see.
One if the things Daniel didn't mention is that whatever the 9% is added must still be an aged spirit of some sort, for at least 2 years.
Good point there
i believe it has to be 3 yr old or whatever aged the product is stating
I always wonder in which episode will the whiskey shelf fall from too much weight.
Liquor store employee here. I will be doing that from now on.
Just saw a Canadian Club Chronicles 42 on the shelf.
The Happy Hobbit saying "The B'haheehottle Lord" made me chuckle.. thnx 4 that
5 years ago my father in law gave me a bottle of canadian club. it was labeled in all the queens heraldry and its written up front:" Canadian Whisky distilled and bottled under Canadian government supervision by Hiram Walker & Sons limited Walkerville, Ontario, Canada
This whisky is 6 years old". the whisky was bottled in 1978 and when we opened it, it tasted very different from what the "new" 41 year old. it still had pronounced rye spice and some herbal notes, caramel coming more in the middle and oomph from at least being 50% abv by our reckoning. theres no alcohol statement on the bottle. the tasting is only my recollection of it and my whisky pallet has improved since so yeahhh my disclaimer
I haven't heard CC confirm this themselves, but I've found several reviews that all say that what was added to the CC41 was some younger rye (8-9 years old), some sherry, and some cognac. Another notable Canadian whisky bottling that's taken advantage of the 9.09% rule is Bearface One Eleven, which takes sourced Canadian whisky and blends it with mezcal.
If it has added 8yo rye whisky then it could not carry 41 years age statement but 8 years age statement
@@Tomislav_B. The 9.09% rule enshrined in Canadian law says otherwise.
@@elixwhitetail Do have any source for that?
@@Tomislav_B.
lois-laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SI-2009-61/page-2.html#docCont
"If the absolute ethyl alcohol content of the spirits or wine that are added as flavouring does not exceed 9.090 per cent of the total quantity of absolute ethyl alcohol contained in the resultant product of the blended spirits, that resultant product is deemed to have been warehoused for a period equal to the period of warehousing of the spirits to which were added the spirits or wine for blending purposes."
More info here: www.lawgill.com/legal-and-practical-elements-of-the-9-09-canadian-whisky-blending-rule/
Google whisky 9.09, easy enough to find tons of info on it.
that 41 year CC is $300+ here in canada where im located (newfoundland Canada) btw
i like balentines blended whisky and cardhu, which single scotch do u recommend?
I have enjoyed the CC 12yr small batch
I think you should make a video on what you should buy if you have early pics in the lotteries kind of like a mock draft
I live in western canada, and I brought up my government liquor store abd searched for this. They didnt have a 41 year available, however had a 42 and 43 year canadian club. Both the 42 and 43 were $290 canadian. Appreciation to that MB, they spent a lot for that bottle to send to you.
I think first one (40?) was like $169 or $269 CDN, pretty sure it was the former. But each year they sell an older release so they must have a bunch of these trash barrels kicking around.
@@fenxis its actually part of BC Liquors "premium spirit release", once a year when the really rare stuff comes out. Just because its rare, doesnt really mean its good, but they did say this was the best canadian club theyve had
The CC41 was $269 in BC, and the 42 and 43 are $289. They're going up to 45 and then they're going to hold back until they can release the rest at 50 years.
Laid down 1000 barrels in 1977, 10% devil’s share in the first year and 2% angel’s share each year thereafter, with compounding is roughly 412 barrels at the 40 year mark. 7000 bottles a year for each release or 35 barrels for year forty. Given the 9% additive allowance and a further 2% angels share each year, may be enough to stretch to Chronicles 49 and a 50 year release. If not too much waste in transfer and blending...
I’m glad that atleast Rex looked like he enjoyed this fine Canadian whisky. I hope he grabs a glass, let it sit for an hour, then come back to it and sip it over the span of an hour or two. That is how you will really appreciate this whisky. It takes patience and time, then suddenly you will have an “aha” moment. Treat it like you would craigellachie or aultmore. At first it may be like “meh it’s pretty good I guess, nothing too special”, but once you really get to know it, the level of complexity in the whisky is unbelievable. Not whisky for novices.
Good call on the Craigellachie. Recently picked up a bottle just because it was on sale and I'd never tried it. First glass was fine, wasn't overly impressed, but since then I've been letting it sit for a bit after pouring. The way the flavor changes (for the better) is quite impressive. I'll probably be keeping this in my regular rotation.
Sounds like a very interesting whisky.
Good Morning MB's.... Back from Dry Week!
What was that bottle with a unicorn on it? It was between the Sexton and Teeling during the bottle lord bit.
Interesting that the finish is such a flash and then disappears so quickly. Is that a result of the casks being to heavily used?
Also, it'd be interesting to see flight suggestions where flavors and aromas build on each other over the course of the tastings, highlighting different things in each subsequent glass. I'd guess you'd only get about three glasses in before your palate gets totally wrecked, but the concept seems worth a swing.
Rex. Frosting? Pshaw! When discussing Canadian whisky, 'frosting' is more properly called 'icing.'
CC 40, 41, 42 and now 43 year old, which I am enjoying now. There will be 2 more editions.
I've never had a bottle of Canadian whisky of any kind that I have even been tempted to buy a second bottle of. Never.
@Whiskey Vault Great episode! lots of new information here, I like it. Where do you get the information about 9% additives to Canadian whiskey? Love to hear more about the requirements / laws of Canadian whiskey.
The one-eleventh rule dates back to the time when Canadian whisky was very popular in the US and was competing aggressively with domestic brands. The US applied a tariff to Canadian whisky to try and shore up the domestic market. The Canadian government, under pressure from Canadian whisky producers, relaxed the laws to allow up to 9.09% of other spirits in Canadian whisky. This allowed Canadian whisky makers to dilute Canadian whisky with American whisky by 9% and evade at least some if not all of the tariffs.
Also, here's more detail about the 9.09% rule, including why a 41-year-old whisky with young rye is allowed to keep the 41-year-old age statement instead of reporting only the rye's age: www.lawgill.com/legal-and-practical-elements-of-the-9-09-canadian-whisky-blending-rule/
How much sherry is in a wet cask before filling? Is it about 9%? You’d be surprised, check it out...
As they're explaining the building taste effect I'm like "just say its got a creeper effect" lol, yeah I do live on the West Coast.
Where's the link to the dry week? I don't see it in the description.
Fucking Hands
i have a 26oz decanter that has 10% Congac x2 blends xo and vsop and wiskey mix and it smells great but i havent tried it yet .
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I actually really like the Canadian Club 9 year! It’s great
Try the 12, it's fantastic!
12 is solid
If i ever see it i will, thanks guys!
How much sherry is in a wet cask before filling? Is it about 9%? You’d be surprised, check it out...
1/4 through my first monkey shoulder bottle, still finding new smells and flavors in it,really enjoying the taste and trying to find and pick out smells ,like its a fine bud lol
Try Naked Grouse if you like the blended Scotch. It's a bit cheaper then Monkey Shoulder atleast here in DFW.
@@zachcarder8681 thank you ill definitely look for that my next visit to the store
@@eddie7062 Dewar's White Label is another mild but interesting budget scotch. Tastes like honey and green tea to me.
it's a good one and used to be my go to for a while then i switched to j&b rare but my fav go to is not a scotch but a canadian called special old rye @@wafl7212
Good Morning Gentlemen.
Thoughts on neck pours? I'm always disappointed the first dram.
Difference is neglible
All spirits are to a degree an acquired taste as every single taste bud by nature reacts to the exposure by screaming "Poison! Spit it out! Bad! Bad!". Following that line only experienced drinkers will appreciate the taste of strong alcohol having basically wrestled your taste buds into submission, and even then you can only really enjoy a whisky after a couple of tries.
Im always amazed how different a whisky can taste from day to day hour to hour
"...best Canadian Club I've ever had..." Rex damning the whisky with faint praise!
As a Canadian, I drank CC when I was a young'un (I won't say how young.) I can't touch most Canadian whiskys now. Lot 40, Pike Creek, Gooderham and Worts and a few others are the only ones I actually enjoy. Most production line Canadian whisky is simply undrinkable to me.
I stay away from the big brand Canadian Whiskies. I like the Forty Creek line, Dillon's 100% Rye, Alberta Premium Cask Strength (the best CW in my opinion), and Collingwood Double Barreled. I haven't had good experiences with Wiser's either.
@@darkoanton5 Yes Forty Creek makes good stuff. Should have mentioned them by name as well.
The big Canadian brands mass-produce mixer juice and that's their business model. I'm fortunate enough to live close enough to Shelter Point to get their stuff and it's much better. Canadian craft whisky is where it's at.
Gooderham & Worts Eleven Souls one of the best I have tasted.
No link in the description, but if anyone needs it, here's the Dry Week challenger page: whiskeytribe.com/pages/whiskey-challengers
Does it still count if I was dry during dry week cause of the meds I was on due to having COVID?
You were dry. It counts. Why doesn't matter
Dry is dry
No! Now you must do it again!
(Kidding, I hope you're doing better!)
If you guys can, try to get ur hands on Shelter Point Whiskey. It’s Canadian, but they are doing some amazing stuff. Most of it is scotch style whiskey!!
Search the channel, they have done a few shelter point whiskies
@@kevinyoung8613 didn’t know that, thanks! Only Been subscribed under a year
Who like me looks past Rex and Daniel at the wall to if its a Laphroig or Lagavulin at the beginning of each episode now
Me! Me! I’m always trying to work out what bottles are on the wall
When Canada sends its whiskies, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending craft. They’re not sending craft. They’re sending whiskies that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with them. They’re bringing vanilla frosting. They’re bringing cloying sweetness. They have that metallic note. And some, I assume, are good whiskies.
I am fortunate to live near Toronto and have direct access to a few nice Craft Distilleries. For the most part the whole CANADIAN STYLE WHISKY is a bad idea.
Brilliant haha
Lol! Yeah, I read that in his voice too
Saw the Canadian Club 42 year the other day and to my surprise, it wasn't outrageously priced lol
$300 in Ohio!
How expensive could it be when regular CC is $17 for a half gallon?
Ya know what’s funny? I get high as fuck and watch these guys get drunk sometimes. What a day we live in where a man can accomplish such a feat.
Also, that bottle looks fucking awesome.
Canadian Club 43yr was just released.
The line of shopping local is making sure you aren't getting screwed by someone you know.
40? Ya'll are youngins. I turned 54 on July 6 2020.... the day before the Whisky SOMM 1 class. It was also Emma's birthday, she turned 27 - 1/2 my age!
I've been thinking about buying a bottle of this, mainly because of the age statement and wanting to try it. As a Canadian I've never been a fan of Canadian Whiskey. Also they have released one every year of this bottle. This one is actually 2 years old. They're on the 43 year old and its around $320 (Canadian) Wonder if it's worth it over say a Johnnie Walker Blue $310?
I haven't personally tried any release of JW Blue, nor have I tried the bottle of CC41 I have yet because I'm saving opening it for a special occasion, but just remember that at the end of the day it's still Canadian Club after all these years. If you're not a fan of the mass-produced Canadian cuddle juice, that JW Blue might just be a more satisfying option for your nose and tongue.
Old Jim must have had a lot to drink by the time he got to this one.
Must have been the same night he had the Crown Royal Northern Harvest Rye...
So when are you guys going to start doing some Rum tastings :D
Laphroaig still there. Move the tcp back to the medical box go get the Lagavulin 16
They have a 41 , 42 and 43 yo in the Chronicles series so far
Us Canadians need to do something about our whisky scene.
The big brands I don't think will do anything.
Oddly, I tried Dillon's White Rye (couldn't be called whisky because it wasn't aged). I thought it would burn, but not so. It was really good. A bit more like an Eau de Vie or Rakia in Eastern Europe. This tells me that the big distillers are starting with a sub-par spirit. No amount of wood aging will change that.
Support craft distilleries that're doing something other than making mixer (looking at you, CC and Crown).
The big distilleries are mass market mixers for the most part. There's some pretty decent craft distilleries in Canada but as the guys said, that's not what you'll find on the shelves in the US. Most smaller Canadian distillers are regional or at most national in scale when it comes to distribution.
So no link for the dry weekers?
Link in description!
When people describe buttery note. What does that mean? I got a feeling you hear a lot of these repetitive descriptions, but based on people I talk to everyone has a different description of "buttery". Other descriptions like vanilla or caramel is much easier to comprehend. I find also different people of different culture has different way of describing the same flavor.
"They're not sending us the best stuff" All eyes go to the Glen Breton on the shelf.
I was doing a wet month after Sober October. :)
Wet month should be a whole other thing
Canadian Club selling a new whiskey that's 1 year older or the same whiskey that is the same whiskey that just tastes different from the aging process or added flavours or different barrels?
40 was 100% whisky, rumor is 50 will be too. All others use that 9.09% in different ways.
I see a bottle of Glenora on the shelf!
Glenora makes great stuff! I visited the distillery this summer and I bought their 14 year.
I think someone even sent them a bottle of the cheeky Battle of the Glen release that Glenora put out after winning their 11-year battle against the SWA over use of the word "Glen" outside of Scotland. In a province named New Scotland.
I had a girlfriend from 2010 to 2012 who was an alcoholic and drank whiskey almost every night. It's why I had to break up with her. She would have me get her bottles all the time. I didn't know much about whiskey back in the day, it all seemed like the same thing to me and I would just get her C.C. and cheap bourbon, etc. If I were with her now, after watching your videos for over 3 years, I would blow her away with my whiskey selections now.
a 41 year old whisky is still 6 years younger than I am... as of the middle of January 2021
Canadian Club also has Chronicles 43 Year Old Canadian Whisky
3:11 - Uh... what is with the weird jump cut all of a sudden?
So 41 years to make CC good?
They added all kinds of sh*t "...was blended with small additions of cognac, rye and sherry." Barreled in '77.
I like Canadian club because its super cheep and easy to drink. It's kinda like soda pop that gets u drunk. I cant imagine spending spending any money on it. and the 40year plus stuff is stupid expensive.
It's expensive at almost $300 Canadian, but just think of the price of a 40-year-old Scotch. A Macallan 40 released in 2017 has a five-digit price tag (if you can find any bottles now).
Your a couple years behind I just picked up the 43 yo the other day
Send one on in
Too expensive its more than jw blue besides these guys dont like Canadian whiskies they like stuff that smells and tastes like a burnt tire dirty bandage road salt road kill combo I like the channel but their taste isnt mine
Only $300 for over 40 year old whisky, i dont know but I think that's a pretty decent price
I meant its too expensive to send to a couple dudes I dont know ,wait a few years for a review then they dont like it ,seems a waste but thats just me rather share with friends and family
Good point
I wonder if this was a case of being kinder to a whiskey than it deserves just because of it's perceived cost/rarity. Let's be honest CC is a mixer whiskey, even Canadians don't drink it straight. I haven't tried any of these high age releases so I can't say but CC Reserves are still mediocre examples of whiskey (of course this is just my opinion).
I’ve tried 40 through 43, just released. The 40 is great, 43 is fantastic!! 41 is by far the most mediocre unfortunately, the flavours fall away too quick like they said.
@@LOLOLOLOL6610 I've been wanting to get the 43 is it really good?
I've had 40 through 43 and they are far from mixing whisky. Compared to regular cc its not even in the same ball park
I see no link... tears. I did not drink for week for nothing! Arggggg
TBH Bullit Rye compared to Canadian Club Rye tastes different leanin towards the bad way for me, I've been stuck with this Bullit rye for 2 months now, my Canadian Club Rye would be gone long time ago...
I'm Canadian, you drink the same stuff Canadians do. most don't even go for the crown royal black it's usually always standard crown royal or Canadian club
C.C. Small Batch was not too bad.
I have not been able to do a single dry week. I make it to 1 day and then I have to take a drink.
And this is why Dry Week exists. Try locking your bottles away for the week and then, when the week ends, bust out a glass of the best stuff you have as a reward.
How does one just find decades old barrels of whiskey?
Canadian Club's master distiller at the time laid out about a thousand barrels in 1977 and didn't leave any notes about what they were for. Then he retired/died and they were kind of lost in the warehouses and it wasn't until several years ago that the present-day CC went and tasted the barrels and decided what they'd do.
As for how you'd lose a thousand barrels, in 1977 Canadian Club was produced at the Hiram Walker distillery in Windsor, Ontario - it's now owned by Beam Suntory. I don't know the exact size of their warehouses but as of a few years ago the Hiram Walker distillery was sitting on 1.6 MILLION barrels and it's the largest distillery in North America.
What about the old Ralfy rule of a minute in the glass for a year in the cask? Let it open up a while and maybe the finish will linger?
I have no idea if that will be the case, but if you sent me a bottle of be willing to try...
I can't see these two waiting 41 minutes before first sip, lol
Club is more "Irish" in nature than a Scotch or Bourbon : light, refined, gentleman-like - more like super model than a cheerleader . . . a bit too soft, even for me, despite 45% alcohol. Yes, the 43 yo is out for Fall 2020 in Canada for 320$CAD ( about 240 $USD including tax).
Are you sure it's up to 9%? I know some additives are allowed but I thought it was only 1 or 2%
Canadian law is clear on the matter. Flavouring spirits and other acceptable additives can be up to 9.090% of the absolute ethyl alcohol volume. It must be alcoholic, and it must be aged on wood for a minimum of two years. Under 9.09% the spirit is considered flavouring and not a blending of two "primary" spirits. This is also why the CC41 has an age statement of 41 years old despite Canadian Club blending some young rye (I heard it was 8-9 years), because flavouring spirit doesn't count against an age statement unless you exceed 1/11th.
@@elixwhitetail so, if the ABV is 50%, the the allowable additives could be up to 4.545%?
@@alexdunphy3716 We're dealing with absolute ethyl alcohol volume in both cases. The math works a little funky and I might make some mistakes here:
Conceivably, if some Canadian blender lost their mind and wanted to pour Angostura bitters directly into their whisky they could - the bitters have an ABV of 44.7%. Assuming 750ml of a base whisky with ABV 50.0% in a big mason jar, we have 375ml of pure ethyl alcohol (we're ignoring the 50% that is water/esters/colour) and we cannot exceed 9.09% of that in pure ethyl alcohol if we want the bitters to count as flavouring. 9.09% of 375ml is 34.0875ml - but that's 34ml of 100% pure alcohol and the bitters are only 44.7%. That means that you could dump about 75ml of bitters into the jar and the total alcohol of the bitters would be just under 34ml or 9.09% against the whisky. WHY someone would do this is a different question.
There is probably a math error here where I should be combining both volumes together to work out the precise percentages after mixing, because a bottling is 750ml not 750+75ml, but close enough for example purposes.
Now, consider, instead, if we have a whisky and we want to add a fortified wine that's 20% (assuming you can use fortified wine, I'm not a Canadian distillery lawyer). The law only looks at the pure alcohol volume in the spirit so we should be able to pour in a bit more than twice as much wine as we could bitters - now we're pouring like 150ml into our jar with 750mls of whisky!
Also keep in mind that the law allows "up to" 9.09% and a blender might not need half as much to achieve the flavour impact or whatever else they were going for (like food colouring). It's just the limit before the additive starts to count as a primary component of the blend and has to be reflected in age statements/etc.
@@elixwhitetail I think I understand
@@elixwhitetail honestly I'd bet a decent amount of whiskeys wouldn't even be bad if you dumped in that much bitters
When we will get REX WEEK again?
Next week
Wait, where's the link?! Oh well, dry week wasn't really for that anyway
I've seen a 43 year old Canadian Club on the shelves
Yeah these aren't rare, at least not in Canada. I see them here in Alberta all the time.
It just released in the last few weeks/months (depending on province). Canadian Club released a 40-year-old, then a 41, 42, and now 43. They're stopping at 45 until the remaining whisky hits 50 years old and then they're releasing the rest.
Roy MacDonald, the Red King? It'd check out as he's Canadian...
Thats what I was saying 😂😂😂 like this would be huge if it is The Red King who sent this
@@TCurry2215 collaboration when? 🤔
@@EB-xl6db you want them to collaborate? Or us to collaborate?
@@TCurry2215 i did send it haha
@@rorymacdonald3319 how did they not connect the dots? Anyway...been a fan of yours and now I'm even a bigger fan knowing you have exquisite taste in RUclips channels and whiskey. 😂
Am I the only one who is wondering right now, Is it Bellator's Rory MacDonald?
Oh wow why...... I can not drink CC. Im am way to spoiled by Speyside Scotch. But to each his own.
No rumour: The Canadian Club 40, 41, 42, and 43 have all already been released, each in consecutive years. The 43 was the 2020 release.
Now a rumour I have heard is that they might skip the 44 in order to hold some stock back for a 45 release. I thought they were going to skip this year too, so maybe that won't be a thing.
Another rumour is Chronicles to 50...
I did the math and given angels share and climate, sampling and blending, 7000 bottle release each year, there should be enough for 6-8 more releases. But I’m just making guesses.
CC might've changed their plans but their stated plan was to release annually until they hit 45, and then stop until the remaining barrels hit 50 for one last release.
@@LOLOLOLOL6610 How do you know how many barrels CC has left in this aging stock? That's a very important piece of the math and to my knowledge CC has not disclosed how many barrels they have.
@@elixwhitetail There is a story in the Windsor Star from September 17th 2017 that details their initial 1000 barrel laydown for the batch in 1977 and what barrels they used. From there it’s all conjecture but the estimates I used come from a good knowledge of distilling and aging in wood: CC laid down 1000 barrels in 1977, 10% devil’s share in the first year given barrel type and char level, 2% angel’s share each year thereafter, with compounding this leaves roughly 412 barrels at the 40 year mark. 7000 bottles or 35 barrels were released for year 40 using 100% CC whisky, 45 would also likely be pure whisky so a further 35 barrels. Given the 9% additive allowance used in the Chronicles releases from 41 on and a further 2% angels share each year, technically only 32 barrels would be required per Chronicles release to year 44... if not too much waste in transfer and blending. The company hasn’t actually confirmed anything but some in the know blogger/writer types have said it will go to 45. This would leave a lot of stock if my estimates are anything close to correct, 214 barrels or so after year 45, with only 198 required to make it to a 50th edition. Granted they may have lost a ton more from sampling, blending, angels share, cask transfers etc. However 200+ barrels seems excessive, but I’m just guessing and have not seen their warehouse or talked to anyone from the company....
I’m collecting multiple sets of this run from 40 on and think one day it will make an interesting bar feature alongside my other rarities and oddities. I think it’s Canada’s only real attempt ever at something collectible.
@@LOLOLOLOL6610 Thanks for the reference, I went searching last year with the CC41 and 42 on the shelves and couldn't find any specifics about the barrels and all.
I'm hoping to get two of each from 41 on (I missed 40 by a long shot), one to open and one to keep for opening on some kind of special occasion (like doing a group tasting of the whole set). So far I've just got one bottle of 41, but things aren't moving quickly around me so my wallet will have time.
As for collectibles, they weren't particularly "collectibles" in the sense of fancy and expensive packaging but the J.P. Wiser's hockey player sets are kind of close. I also really like the square bottles Wiser's uses for their special releases (like Dissertation). They're not really a series but they look handsome side by side on a shelf and they're all limited releases.
@@elixwhitetail Honestly, if money is an issue you might consider skipping that second bottle of 42... or even the first. The 43 however is spot on! I think you’re wrong about the collectibility part, I doubt you will see something this old and novel again for a long time in Canada.
Not a fan of Wisers, even dissertation I found tasted like any other barrel run they put out. The 35 had more spice than I expected while tasting mature with depth though, which was a win for them.
My true collectibles are bottles like Port Ellen releases, old Bowmore and rare Kuruizawa vintages found on dusty shelves in mountain towns in Japan. It’s fun and I see it as a reason to travel and an investment since rare spirits auctions are running strong in Canada for the last 10 years, beating the TSX by a long shot for the big 30 on whiskystats(dot)com!
Currently, we have the Canadian Club 42YO Chronicles Issue No. 2 here in Ontario, Canada. It's CAN$310 (US$238). I wouldn't touch CC with a ten-foot pole.
Just look at their pricing here. A basic CC is CAN$29 (a 3-year old legal minimum). The 9-year reserve is CAN$30 and the 12-year-old is $31.5. The lack of increase makes me believe the barrels are not worth that much. It's completely against what you'd see in other countries. I even avoid Crown Royal. Our whisky industry could do so much better.
I'll stick with brands like Forty- Creek, Dillon's and even Alberta Premium.
On the other hand, consider what a 40+ year old Scotch costs. A Macallan expression with that age range was released in 2017 and if you can find any bottles now they're going for $20,000+.
Besides, the mass-market producers like Crown Royal and CC reuse barrels until they fall apart and they produce immense quantities (100,000L per day might be a slow day) so they can afford to price them at attractive rates. Ontario is also stuck with the LCBO monopoly controlling the entire alcohol market from nearly start to finish, so that's something to take into account.
If Shelter Point ever manages nationwide distribution get yourself some.
Wait...Rory MacDonald the Canadian MMA fighter? The Red King? If so that's badass
I think they would have mentioned that if so
@@jasonsnow4177 he claims he sent it 🤷♂️🤷♂️...seems pretty cool to me
@@TCurry2215 where did you see that?
@@tdolan500 on another comment in here his YT page (I know it's actually his because I follow him on IG and its linked from there) said he did in fact send it. I mean makes sense too when you think about it.
@@TCurry2215 You’re right, found it!
can we get some bastardized 9% wine mixed something?
I would be surprised to find a whiskey older than me, because I am two days older than dirt.
I can't AFFORD a whiskey older than me.
To be honest, there is probably a lost barrel in some barrelhouse that's absolutely ancient
Mortlach 1938 Speyside bottled in 2008? Macallan 72? If you’re part of the tribe on here at 70+, proper respect sir! ;-)
noice
Canadian Club has a 42 and 43 as well, as seen on LCBO.com. There isn’t a CC that is worth shelling out over $300 (CDN) for. I don’t mind the cheaper stuff in a rye and coke but neat? Forget it. CC is just not good whisky. I’d rather have two bottles of Oban than one of these...
I can attest to Rex's hope, that it was very much most likely a ball busting employee... Signed, a ball busting employee of a liquor store who consistently takes people to the Jack daniels when the scalpers come in looking for Rares.
Ohio has the 42 year old Canadian Club right now...but for $300...not for me lol
this cat whisperer guy drinks a lot
Listening to describe canadian whiskey laws makes me think the mob during the prohibition in the '20s wrote those laws.
Prohibition actually nearly destroyed the Canadian whisky industry because in order to access the US market at all they had to sell their products to gangsters for pennies on the dollar (who then took it on a boat across the lake and marked it up several times over the normal price). I'm not historically literate on the matter but my understanding is that the 9.09% rule came about in the *1800s* and was used to dodge protectionist US tarrifs and continue to compete with the US whiskey industry.
For general Canadian whisky history, I recommend this talk by Dr. Don Livermore, the master blender of the Hiram Walker distillery in Windsor, Ontario. ruclips.net/video/T6c_3Se1csQ/видео.html
Rory MacDonald the UFC fighter?
Only the Canucks could screw up 41 year whiskey. Soooooorey! Lol
I can’t fathom why anyone would be sending you that or many other bottles, and I am a millionaire LOL!