That's a first. We'll do a penetration test on soft and hard wood. I'm thinking some penetation on pine, mabye a dimple on Maple and Ricochet-o-rama on walnut. Thanks for the idea!
I spent a lot of time digging around in the Grainger catalog for thin wall stainless tubes the same O/D as the current Daisy factory product and was not able to find anything I considered affordable. I know that Jonathan over at BlackBarrelCustoms has done a lot of work on fabbing airtubes. Check out this video ruclips.net/video/jW78634rocw/видео.html At this point the easiest way I know of fabbing airtubes is to use the factory product and drill it.
I don’t understand how larger diameter equals more speed, larger diameter would give more volume but at less speed. Are you also increasing something else?
Hi. Thanks for sharing. Do you happen to know the air tube length and OD for an original 107 Buck Jones Special? I am in the process of repairing one and the shot tube is completely missing. I have to fabricate one and I believe it is longer than most. Thanks!
That depends, is it a Plymouth MI marked gun? The only example I have on hand is a Rodger AR Model 107, not exactly the same as the Buck Jones made in the 1933 and 1942. I do recall a thread over at the Daisy Talk forum on the subject of shot tubes for the older guns. It's hard to search but those guys know their Daisy's.
@@RestOModDaisy Thanks for the reply. Yes it is a Plymouth MI manufactured piece and I have been to Daisy Talk, searched through at least 100 pages, but didn't find anything like this. I guess I should sign up and ask the question myself! I may try to determine length by the wear on the trombone slide piece. I assume that the wear on the slide will approximately correlate to the length that the plunger travels back. Thanks again!
Yes... The Austrian Emco Unimat.... and as a coincident i have had one for more than 30 years a Emco Compact 5 !! Sold it 2 years ago because i needed the money now a regret it!! @@RestOModDaisy
Does the air tube also function as the BB drop down control? If during the plunger stroke the air tube does not fully retract from the load port end, it would seem that cross drilling the air tube would also increase flow down the barrel? Yes, cross drilling all those holes would be a pain but maybe it could be done with a laser.
The air tube will block the loading port when fired so it does control when the BB can actually seat in the breech. Cross drilling the airtube inlet port would increase airflow during the compression cycle but I think it might weaken the airtube to the point of early failure. I don't know of any one experimenting with that aspect yet.
@@RestOModDaisy I've wondered about the cross drilling myself on the air inlet side of the tube. Maybe with a tiny bit drilling a single hole. Then move down the tube 1/8in at a time and turn the tube 1/4 turn each time. I'm thinking by staggering holes it would keep airflow from fighting itself while minimizing weak points. Maybe angle drill them to create a swirling effect to speed up the air like water down a drain.
I have not. I'm assuming you're talking about the old style air tubes that were used with the leather seals. Love to see some pix as that looks like a daunting job to get right.
The best place on Ebay for Daisy modding is at Cobalt 327's little shop. www.ebay.com/usr/cobalt327?_trksid=p2053788.m1543.l2754 He's a real pioneer in Daisy modding, good guy and free shipping on some items. I get his Cobalt 327 Super Dprings for my hi power projects and have never been disappointed.
Mr Shane, do you have a video on how to change the seal on the air tube. I cannot seem to find that process described in any of your videos. Can you point me in the right direction? Your videos are very helpful. Trying to get my old 111-40 working again for my grandson. Thanks. John b
John, Sorry about the delay in responding. My channel is getting a bit cumbersome and I don't always catch the notification thingy. There are two seals associated with the air tube, the abutment seal on pre-1978 Daisy's and the compression seal (or cup) on all of them. Which one are you having problems with?
You have very informative videos.I like the newer 1938B Red Ryders just as much as the vintage No 111 Mod 40 classics.....I have learned alot from your vids.Thank you and keep on making them....👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏.....On a side note,you have a very good "radio" voice.....Were you ever a DJ or voice over or anything like that?👍
Do you have any air tube that I can buy from you .I would like to drill my air tube on my model 25 . Please let me know . Thank you daisy said they out of stock . George
George, I'm in the same boat. All of my air tubes are committed to builds I have in process. I'd check out Cobalt327's ebay store and see what he's got on hand. www.ebay.com/usr/cobalt327?_trksid=p2053788.m1543.l2754 If he's out too, get back to me and we'll see what we can do.
I normally get them from Cobalt 327 over on the 'Bay although I can make them as well but just don't have the production time at the moment. You also might want to look into one of Black Barrel Customs Blue Hare airtubes if you're looking to upgrade.
Hi Shane hey I got a hold of cobalt and I'm going to get a couple of the high compression springs from him and he said as soon as the air tubes come in he's out of them too so he'll let me know and I'll go ahead and order am I got to order in right now from him in as soon as I get here the ear tubes come in and the I'll get the Springs too so no big deal use what I got for right now and I appreciate your help keep up the good work with your videos and enjoy every one of them thank you sir God bless have a great day George
@@RestOModDaisy he seem to be very knowledgeable like yourself what Shane I'm 76 years old and I'm trying to learn as much as I can about these old daisies I remember having one as a little kid I picked up one picked up a 105 I believe it is my gran gave it to my grandson but he's going to give it back to me might even be a 1:11 I'm not sure yet so I'll get it back on Saturday and I bought him a Red Ryder give to him to replace it so thank you buddy take it easy have a great rest of your week and a great weekend thanks for all your help I got you do you by chance have a 111 that are interesting interested in getting rid of if you do 11140 let me know give me a price if I can afford to get it from you I will thank you pal have a good one George
@@georgethayer3533 Sounds like a great weekend. Y'all should do some plinking if the inbound ancient Daisy shoots! Send me an email at "thesocietyforprofit@gmail.com" and we'll see if there's something we can do.
@@gerrybourque2181 Gerry, I don't sell parts, I just make them for my projects. You can contact Mark Ritter over at Cobalt 327 on Ebay and see if he can help out but I do recall that there are real difficulties in sending toy gun parts to Canada.
Incredible what they do with carbines, I hope that one day you will show us on a piece of wood what your most powerful Ryder network does.
That's a first. We'll do a penetration test on soft and hard wood. I'm thinking some penetation on pine, mabye a dimple on Maple and Ricochet-o-rama on walnut. Thanks for the idea!
@@RestOModDaisy Thank you for taking my comment and our curiosity into account, and as always remember to wear protective glasses 👍
Rodger that.@@CannonMiut
You are a wealth of information to say the least. All I needed was one more hobby and you started something. Thank you
Thanks Frank! Welcome to Daisy Land!
Where can I get the tubes in bulk configuration, for my own research project?
online. Just not looking in the right place.
Thanks
I spent a lot of time digging around in the Grainger catalog for thin wall stainless tubes the same O/D as the current Daisy factory product and was not able to find anything I considered affordable. I know that Jonathan over at BlackBarrelCustoms has done a lot of work on fabbing airtubes. Check out this video
ruclips.net/video/jW78634rocw/видео.html
At this point the easiest way I know of fabbing airtubes is to use the factory product and drill it.
@@RestOModDaisy Thanks for the reply back.
Got it figured out. Thanks for your videos.
John, That's great. Legacy Daisy's are the best!
I don’t understand how larger diameter equals more speed, larger diameter would give more volume but at less speed. Are you also increasing something else?
Tenho uma daisy 1894, é estou procurando mola e bucha para comprar. Tem alguma loja específica para indicar?
Hi. Thanks for sharing. Do you happen to know the air tube length and OD for an original 107 Buck Jones Special? I am in the process of repairing one and the shot tube is completely missing. I have to fabricate one and I believe it is longer than most. Thanks!
That depends, is it a Plymouth MI marked gun? The only example I have on hand is a Rodger AR Model 107, not exactly the same as the Buck Jones made in the 1933 and 1942. I do recall a thread over at the Daisy Talk forum on the subject of shot tubes for the older guns. It's hard to search but those guys know their Daisy's.
@@RestOModDaisy Thanks for the reply. Yes it is a Plymouth MI manufactured piece and I have been to Daisy Talk, searched through at least 100 pages, but didn't find anything like this. I guess I should sign up and ask the question myself! I may try to determine length by the wear on the trombone slide piece. I assume that the wear on the slide will approximately correlate to the length that the plunger travels back. Thanks again!
Dear Mr, Shane, you should buy a mini Lathe you have lots of use for it!!
My dad was obsessed with brand of mini lathe way back in the way back called a "Unimat" .
Yes... The Austrian Emco Unimat.... and as a coincident i have had one for more than 30 years a Emco Compact 5 !! Sold it 2 years ago because i needed the money now a regret it!! @@RestOModDaisy
Any idea where I can get the air tubes from as I am from the UK as no one will ship from the US to the UK?
I'm also looking for parts in the UK. Looking forward to the response . Cheers.
Does the air tube also function as the BB drop down control? If during the plunger stroke the air tube does not fully retract from the load port end, it would seem that cross drilling the air tube would also increase flow down the barrel? Yes, cross drilling all those holes would be a pain but maybe it could be done with a laser.
The air tube will block the loading port when fired so it does control when the BB can actually seat in the breech. Cross drilling the airtube inlet port would increase airflow during the compression cycle but I think it might weaken the airtube to the point of early failure. I don't know of any one experimenting with that aspect yet.
@@RestOModDaisy I've wondered about the cross drilling myself on the air inlet side of the tube. Maybe with a tiny bit drilling a single hole. Then move down the tube 1/8in at a time and turn the tube 1/4 turn each time. I'm thinking by staggering holes it would keep airflow from fighting itself while minimizing weak points. Maybe angle drill them to create a swirling effect to speed up the air like water down a drain.
I bought 5/32 stainless steel tube and soldered in on my two 25’s. It comes 7/64 id Don’t know if you have tried or not
I have not. I'm assuming you're talking about the old style air tubes that were used with the leather seals. Love to see some pix as that looks like a daunting job to get right.
Where would I find the enlarged air tubes on eBay?
The best place on Ebay for Daisy modding is at Cobalt 327's little shop.
www.ebay.com/usr/cobalt327?_trksid=p2053788.m1543.l2754
He's a real pioneer in Daisy modding, good guy and free shipping on some items. I get his Cobalt 327 Super Dprings for my hi power projects and have never been disappointed.
Mr Shane, do you have a video on how to change the seal on the air tube. I cannot seem to find that process described in any of your videos. Can you point me in the right direction? Your videos are very helpful. Trying to get my old 111-40 working again for my grandson. Thanks. John b
John, Sorry about the delay in responding. My channel is getting a bit cumbersome and I don't always catch the notification thingy. There are two seals associated with the air tube, the abutment seal on pre-1978 Daisy's and the compression seal (or cup) on all of them. Which one are you having problems with?
@@RestOModDaisy abutment seal, but I finally got it figured out. Thanks for the response though.
You have very informative videos.I like the newer 1938B Red Ryders just as much as the vintage No 111 Mod 40 classics.....I have learned alot from your vids.Thank you and keep on making them....👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏.....On a side note,you have a very good "radio" voice.....Were you ever a DJ or voice over or anything like that?👍
Thanks so much!
Do you have any air tube that I can buy from you .I would like to drill my air tube on my model 25 . Please let me know . Thank you daisy said they out of stock . George
George, I'm in the same boat. All of my air tubes are committed to builds I have in process. I'd check out Cobalt327's ebay store and see what he's got on hand.
www.ebay.com/usr/cobalt327?_trksid=p2053788.m1543.l2754
If he's out too, get back to me and we'll see what we can do.
Do you sell OB'd tubes or does one have to send you the parts?
I normally get them from Cobalt 327 over on the 'Bay although I can make them as well but just don't have the production time at the moment. You also might want to look into one of Black Barrel Customs Blue Hare airtubes if you're looking to upgrade.
Hi Shane hey I got a hold of cobalt and I'm going to get a couple of the high compression springs from him and he said as soon as the air tubes come in he's out of them too so he'll let me know and I'll go ahead and order am I got to order in right now from him in as soon as I get here the ear tubes come in and the I'll get the Springs too so no big deal use what I got for right now and I appreciate your help keep up the good work with your videos and enjoy every one of them thank you sir God bless have a great day George
George, Glad to hear Cobalt could help, he's the best.
@@RestOModDaisy he seem to be very knowledgeable like yourself what Shane I'm 76 years old and I'm trying to learn as much as I can about these old daisies I remember having one as a little kid I picked up one picked up a 105 I believe it is my gran gave it to my grandson but he's going to give it back to me might even be a 1:11 I'm not sure yet so I'll get it back on Saturday and I bought him a Red Ryder give to him to replace it so thank you buddy take it easy have a great rest of your week and a great weekend thanks for all your help I got you do you by chance have a 111 that are interesting interested in getting rid of if you do 11140 let me know give me a price if I can afford to get it from you I will thank you pal have a good one George
@@georgethayer3533 Sounds like a great weekend. Y'all should do some plinking if the inbound ancient Daisy shoots! Send me an email at "thesocietyforprofit@gmail.com" and we'll see if there's something we can do.
Very cool.
Thanks!
Third or fourth time watching this video.... It kinda sucks you in, like air drawn into a compression chamber.
Please say modified. "Modded" is so hipster lame. Great video content!
Can you ship me 2 to quebec
Actually 5 lol. I have many to build and no drill press please
@@gerrybourque2181 Gerry, I don't sell parts, I just make them for my projects. You can contact Mark Ritter over at Cobalt 327 on Ebay and see if he can help out but I do recall that there are real difficulties in sending toy gun parts to Canada.