My Cousin had NFS UG2 and I was snopping around the game and found Burnout 3. That was the first time I ever played Burnout 3 and that was my first Burnout game and that's how I fell in love with Burnout
Holy actual shit, this is really interesting. Especially the fact that there is GP RR event, and that the bigger car you have in Crash mode would get you much more cash! Wow, Criterion really wanted did not take their minds off of Burnout 1 and 2.
Challenge may be: -Make X number of takedown during this race to gain X quantity of money. -X number of laps, the fastest lap wins. -Air time, drift or even maniac mode from Burnout Dominator.
@@grandtheftaero1 also i guess that the gp rr was meant to be a gp with takedowns but the game would also need to count the takedowns of the bots too and that would be kinda complicated
This video is really really well put together, i've had burnout 3 since 2004 and i just can't get over this... love the sad, forgotten + removed or beta things. Just adore it, kinda sad too! some of those are really interesting and i can picture them so well. A++++ vid and i hope you do more if you ever find more beta things!
Fascinating and you did a great job presenting it. It's far too common with text on videos to not have it up long enough to read easily. Many thanks again for this look behind the scenes.
+GrandTheftAero Looking forward to it, Revenge was probably my least favourite game in the series since it moved so far away from Burnout 3 but it did add some good things like the rivalries in the 360 version and some replays (even though Burnout 1 had them already ;)
Fnordinary Too bad they removed replays from Burnout 3 aswell. However, looking at Revenge's demo, i found out that alot of B3 features were cut. Paradise also has some references to '''Burnout 5'' and alot developer messages. I'm working on Paradise right now. Oh, and there was a big mode cut from Paradise i found in the files....yes...that mode. :)
+GrandTheftAero Paradise had an extended development so I'm sure there were so many revisions and cuts and additions along the way. They pretty much scrapped an entire version of it I think. Here's the first B5 map they showed www.theaveragegamer.com/wp-content/Screenshots/Burnout5/Burnout5.jpg you see it had the Island that came later and more area at the bottom than the final game. www.1up.com/do/previewPage?pager.offset=0&cId=3156451 has an early interview with Official Playstation Mag with some idea of where they were headed with the game. They did incredible support of he game with free DLC and fan interaction/podcasts for the year after release. It was kind of an experiment but sadly it didn't prove good enough. But bravo for Criterion trying it, maybe a few years too early. I remember in the Demo you could jump off the top of a car park and get past the artificial barrier to explore a bit more of the map so there's certainly a lot to find :)
+Fnordinary Criterion obviously had ambitious plans for Paradise, but because of hardware or design issues, it was never as big as Criterion really wanted it to be. Along with the cut DLC, such as a moon map, planes etc. I have tried that glitch before, but it would never work for me lol! I don't think it's any use, as the demo is basically the final game. Paradise was pretty much finished a month before release. So around November/December of 2007. Same thing with Revenge aswell. As i own a review beta of Revenge a month before release. I'm not entirely sure if the gameplay was entirely different in Preview code. Burnout Paradise beta's did get leaked before if i recall correctly, gameplay of a 2006 build was leaked. We might be able to play it for ourselves one day. I know it was for sale at betagames.org, unfortenatly, that site did get shutdown and replaced with some marathon shit, i don't know.
You forgot to mention in the intro/opening of the game, the super type 1 is blue and that color cannot be chosen in the actual game but still, well done on taking your time and effort into making this video
Hey man, found out about your channel today and I must say as a big Burnout fan these are fascinating videos you put up. Any chance of seeing more Burnout in the future? Keep up the good work.
+Bariprime There will definetly be more Burnout in the future. Only i'm doing some NFS and Midnight Club stuff at the moment. But i won't give up on Burnout.
Where can I find the crash/hit sound effects from Burnout 3? I'd like to use them for future reference when I get to start designing sound effects for my future project "Stickshift Overdrive". B3's slam and shunt sound effects for example are perfect and I'd like a sound designer to help create sounds like them!
I know a huge amount of work went into this, thanks so much for posting it! Very in depth and thorough. I wonder how hard it would be to mod the game files so we could play on a private server?
Very interesting and well made video. I'm curious, what programs do you use to view the game files? I've wanted for years to explore the files of the Burnout games.
8:12 sounds like some sort of hard mode for crash mode (maybe the race tour as well) if it wouldn't be hard enough. Some examples i could come up with is less traffic, a goal to achieve gold plus the crash amount, or a higher gold medal crash amount like 1M+ 9:33 - 10:07 Bear with me here, the GP RR and Battle Race could be linked together. While Battle Race sounds like it references eliminator, but you have to be the last one standing (aka take down your enemies until THEY'RE totalled) and the "RR" in GP RR which could stand for Road Rage (as said by one of many commenters in the comment section). The GP RR may have been a champion ship to go along different race tracks and total your enemies. Battling against 5 road ragers until you would be the last one standing. Meaning you have to go through this 3-4 times. 10:09 "Docks Fog" not sure if this is the Beta name for "Tunnel of Shove" "Elevated Train" when i hear this i think of 2 things, 1: get a takedown against the monorail pillars of Golden city. Or 2: A Beta name of "Pillar Driller" "Lane Closed" im thinking more Alpine for this, since at Lanes Lunacy or Highway to Hell crash level(s), behind you is some highway construction going on. I wonder if the goal is to make a Takedown to that construction on the side? "Roadworks Roundabout" a big coincidence that this is the Beta name of "Riviera Roustabout" 🤔 "Slow Traffic, Fast Traffic" this one hurts my brain the most to think of. Im thinking a takedown against a Container (truck)? It would be since those Container trucks carry the most goodies in their containers, its also the only one i can think of that makes sense. "Toll Booth" obviously this is "Paid the Price!" No doubt. 10:24 The 2nd one, compact eliminator must have been replaced by the Muscle class. The 4th one was changed to a 1:03 burning lap with the sports type 3, either that or the 0:55 seconds burning lap with the ECR (Euro Circuit Racer) The 5th one is a bit confusing to look at, but it definitely changed to the super class. As for the 6th one, it changed to the special event with the Sports type 2. 7th one is a short memory loss to remind myself if there's even a normal race in vineyard that isnt the coupe GP 😅. If not, it definitely changed to the GP start of the coupe series. The 9th changed to the Modified coupe race to unlock the Modified coupe and the 10th was with the Dominator Sports on Alpine. 11:57 Theory: they probably planned to add a color scheme or square to choose your own color, or just more color options. Which would make sense as in some of the prototype events on this game show races with the enemies in certain colors that aren't in the base game. No clue why they would cut it and i have no theoretical explanation for it as well 🤷♂️ 12:29 Obviously from the base game it self. 12:32 Im going to sound stupid here, this horn reminds me of one of those horns used in the older gta games on different vehicles 15:29 the Test Track gives me alot of Silver Lake vibes. IMO it would be a great track for race tutorial such as drifting, boosting, taking enemies down, achievements, etc. Its not easy to think about all this compared to the base game. For that reason alone i gave it my best shot to recall any info that would be helpful for you people, and ofc for GrandTheftAreo.
Maybe the Survival Races would've worked like Burnout Paradise Marked Man races but you survive by time in races to reach the Gold, Silver, and Bronze medals. So this mode was only available in circuit races only.
+Jake Vesley There really should be a Burnout Theories of some sorts..But that can be true. Future Burnout games did use alot of beta elements/ideas from it's earlier games..
@@grandtheftaero1 I’m five years late, but in Dangerous Driving (Made by B3 devs) Survival is a mode where you have to drive as fast as you can for as long as you can without crashing
the need for speed underground 2 demo is called "need for speed underground demo" on a demo disc aswell. absolutely 0 chance that they would shove an already released game onto burnout for promotion. apart from that you seem to be getting a better hang on things. also cg1 = criterion game 1 because this was the first game made by criterion under ea
+Speedyheart But wasn't it too early in development to have a proper working demo? It can just be a placeholder name, dind't the NFSU2 demo date back to May of 2004?
+GrandTheftAero no? there is a video which explained that in nfsu2 very early on they decided to try it as an open world and then they talked about segmenting off beacon hills and adding a few races and thats what the demo was made from
You forgot to mention that the Super Type 2 has a different Front Bumper as seen in the Intro, and also the Muscle Type 2 has different rims in the Game Case?
Off 1vs1 racer was returned in burnout legends and horns was also added and there returned cops car yes burnout legends has pursuit gamemode other fun fact burnout legends has some burnout 2 cars.
I recently finished this game career mode and I have all the gold and all the Crash stuff and everything, so I 100% this on the original Xbox! I missed this game so much but why when I can play it when I want lol
Nice , as always , quality stuff , any new stuff about the mod ? im looking forward for that :D , still , you never cease to find out good information ,
+GrandTheftAero did i just read that right ? Nice , i assume it dosen't have beta paintjobs . or research on that didnt really occur ? its just that blue super type 1 ... oh god . lol
+AztecaEh Eh Oh, and it's going to be an alpha version of the mod. So expect some bugs. The boost bar is glitched af and i don't know on how to fix it at the moment. After i release an alpha version, i will probaly work on one for Revenge.
3:15 not only was ai behavior and crashes different... But also the lines and symbols accompanying them didnt make it into the final game. I dont recall "under rival" nor the symbols
+GrandTheftAero For some reasons Driver's Ed was meant to be in Burnout 3 Takedown but It was cut from the game but you can see it only on Training icon of the menu
WHERE ARE IMPACT SOUNDS? 🥹 they had different tone in demo than in actual - for those, who dont know, burnout was supposed to be horror driving game(then EA cut this tone away), when you crash, you should be aware of what can happen in IRL
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I noticed that the demo was included on the PS2/Xbox version of NFSU2, Infact, nobody even told anyone about it
Well, that demo is just the final game. Nothing interesting to be found.
My Cousin had NFS UG2 and I was snopping around the game and found Burnout 3. That was the first time I ever played Burnout 3 and that was my first Burnout game and that's how I fell in love with Burnout
And Burnout 3 had a beta demo from NFSU2 on it lol
I always play the Burnout 3 beta when I play NFSU2 on aetherSX2 (PS2 emulator)
Holy actual shit, this is really interesting. Especially the fact that there is GP RR event, and that the bigger car you have in Crash mode would get you much more cash! Wow, Criterion really wanted did not take their minds off of Burnout 1 and 2.
SUNSHINE IN THE MOOORNIIING!
It's been too many years, i feel old.
otta8432 this game was also a piece of my happily childhood.
same here dude. i remember playing the demo for the first time and hearing that song... damn those were good times
@@lorenzo.l5880 tru
Challenge may be:
-Make X number of takedown during this race to gain X quantity of money.
-X number of laps, the fastest lap wins.
-Air time, drift or even maniac mode from Burnout Dominator.
in the Burnout3 ps2 full version you can play with the nfs ug2 demo
GP RR= Grand Prix Road Rage
I have no idea how he didn't immediately realize that.
i did, but i thought a mode called ''Grand Prix Road Rage'' was kinda absurd so i dindt mention it
You got the words out of my mouth.
@@grandtheftaero1 also i guess that the gp rr was meant to be a gp with takedowns but the game would also need to count the takedowns of the bots too and that would be kinda complicated
You got a point Atsuki
This video is really really well put together, i've had burnout 3 since 2004 and i just can't get over this... love the sad, forgotten + removed or beta things. Just adore it, kinda sad too! some of those are really interesting and i can picture them so well.
A++++ vid and i hope you do more if you ever find more beta things!
I got beta colos tho
Fascinating and you did a great job presenting it. It's far too common with text on videos to not have it up long enough to read easily. Many thanks again for this look behind the scenes.
+Fnordinary Thanks alot. I'm also thinking about doing Paradise (already found some cool stuff) and a part 2 of the Revenge demo analysis.
+GrandTheftAero Looking forward to it, Revenge was probably my least favourite game in the series since it moved so far away from Burnout 3 but it did add some good things like the rivalries in the 360 version and some replays (even though Burnout 1 had them already ;)
Fnordinary Too bad they removed replays from Burnout 3 aswell. However, looking at Revenge's demo, i found out that alot of B3 features were cut. Paradise also has some references to '''Burnout 5'' and alot developer messages. I'm working on Paradise right now. Oh, and there was a big mode cut from Paradise i found in the files....yes...that mode. :)
+GrandTheftAero Paradise had an extended development so I'm sure there were so many revisions and cuts and additions along the way. They pretty much scrapped an entire version of it I think. Here's the first B5 map they showed www.theaveragegamer.com/wp-content/Screenshots/Burnout5/Burnout5.jpg you see it had the Island that came later and more area at the bottom than the final game. www.1up.com/do/previewPage?pager.offset=0&cId=3156451 has an early interview with Official Playstation Mag with some idea of where they were headed with the game.
They did incredible support of he game with free DLC and fan interaction/podcasts for the year after release. It was kind of an experiment but sadly it didn't prove good enough. But bravo for Criterion trying it, maybe a few years too early.
I remember in the Demo you could jump off the top of a car park and get past the artificial barrier to explore a bit more of the map so there's certainly a lot to find :)
+Fnordinary Criterion obviously had ambitious plans for Paradise, but because of hardware or design issues, it was never as big as Criterion really wanted it to be. Along with the cut DLC, such as a moon map, planes etc. I have tried that glitch before, but it would never work for me lol! I don't think it's any use, as the demo is basically the final game. Paradise was pretty much finished a month before release. So around November/December of 2007. Same thing with Revenge aswell. As i own a review beta of Revenge a month before release. I'm not entirely sure if the gameplay was entirely different in Preview code. Burnout Paradise beta's did get leaked before if i recall correctly, gameplay of a 2006 build was leaked. We might be able to play it for ourselves one day. I know it was for sale at betagames.org, unfortenatly, that site did get shutdown and replaced with some marathon shit, i don't know.
The soundtrack was amazing.
You forgot to mention in the intro/opening of the game, the super type 1 is blue and that color cannot be chosen in the actual game but still, well done on taking your time and effort into making this video
I would’ve LOVED to use the heavy pickup truck and fire truck in races
I do it all the time.
Hey man, found out about your channel today and I must say as a big Burnout fan these are fascinating videos you put up. Any chance of seeing more Burnout in the future? Keep up the good work.
+Bariprime There will definetly be more Burnout in the future. Only i'm doing some NFS and Midnight Club stuff at the moment. But i won't give up on Burnout.
Where can I find the crash/hit sound effects from Burnout 3? I'd like to use them for future reference when I get to start designing sound effects for my future project "Stickshift Overdrive". B3's slam and shunt sound effects for example are perfect and I'd like a sound designer to help create sounds like them!
I know a huge amount of work went into this, thanks so much for posting it! Very in depth and thorough.
I wonder how hard it would be to mod the game files so we could play on a private server?
9:54 "RR" might stand for "Road Rage", so maybe a GP style Road Rage Tournament?
+blingboy8547 Hmm.. maybe. I couldn't find anything relevent to GP Road Rage in the files, however.
Very interesting and well made video. I'm curious, what programs do you use to view the game files? I've wanted for years to explore the files of the Burnout games.
Hex editor
8:12
sounds like some sort of hard mode for crash mode (maybe the race tour as well) if it wouldn't be hard enough. Some examples i could come up with is less traffic, a goal to achieve gold plus the crash amount, or a higher gold medal crash amount like 1M+
9:33 - 10:07
Bear with me here, the GP RR and Battle Race could be linked together. While Battle Race sounds like it references eliminator, but you have to be the last one standing (aka take down your enemies until THEY'RE totalled) and the "RR" in GP RR which could stand for Road Rage (as said by one of many commenters in the comment section).
The GP RR may have been a champion ship to go along different race tracks and total your enemies. Battling against 5 road ragers until you would be the last one standing. Meaning you have to go through this 3-4 times.
10:09
"Docks Fog" not sure if this is the Beta name for "Tunnel of Shove"
"Elevated Train" when i hear this i think of 2 things, 1: get a takedown against the monorail pillars of Golden city. Or 2: A Beta name of "Pillar Driller"
"Lane Closed" im thinking more Alpine for this, since at Lanes Lunacy or Highway to Hell crash level(s), behind you is some highway construction going on. I wonder if the goal is to make a Takedown to that construction on the side?
"Roadworks Roundabout" a big coincidence that this is the Beta name of "Riviera Roustabout" 🤔
"Slow Traffic, Fast Traffic" this one hurts my brain the most to think of. Im thinking a takedown against a Container (truck)? It would be since those Container trucks carry the most goodies in their containers, its also the only one i can think of that makes sense.
"Toll Booth" obviously this is "Paid the Price!" No doubt.
10:24
The 2nd one, compact eliminator must have been replaced by the Muscle class.
The 4th one was changed to a 1:03 burning lap with the sports type 3, either that or the 0:55 seconds burning lap with the ECR (Euro Circuit Racer)
The 5th one is a bit confusing to look at, but it definitely changed to the super class. As for the 6th one, it changed to the special event with the Sports type 2.
7th one is a short memory loss to remind myself if there's even a normal race in vineyard that isnt the coupe GP 😅. If not, it definitely changed to the GP start of the coupe series.
The 9th changed to the Modified coupe race to unlock the Modified coupe and the 10th was with the Dominator Sports on Alpine.
11:57
Theory: they probably planned to add a color scheme or square to choose your own color, or just more color options. Which would make sense as in some of the prototype events on this game show races with the enemies in certain colors that aren't in the base game. No clue why they would cut it and i have no theoretical explanation for it as well 🤷♂️
12:29
Obviously from the base game it self.
12:32
Im going to sound stupid here, this horn reminds me of one of those horns used in the older gta games on different vehicles
15:29 the Test Track gives me alot of Silver Lake vibes. IMO it would be a great track for race tutorial such as drifting, boosting, taking enemies down, achievements, etc.
Its not easy to think about all this compared to the base game. For that reason alone i gave it my best shot to recall any info that would be helpful for you people, and ofc for GrandTheftAreo.
What i liked about NFSU2 is that it. Came with Burnout 3 demo.
TornadoQuest even though burnout 3 came first
Damn these videos are insanely interesting to me. Especially as I grew up playing these games. Keep up the excellent work!
Crash challenges sound like having to fulfill a unique criteria in certain events, maybe to unlock cars in the cut Traffic Special series?
Maybe the Survival Races would've worked like Burnout Paradise Marked Man races but you survive by time in races to reach the Gold, Silver, and Bronze medals. So this mode was only available in circuit races only.
+Jake Vesley There really should be a Burnout Theories of some sorts..But that can be true. Future Burnout games did use alot of beta elements/ideas from it's earlier games..
@@grandtheftaero1 I’m five years late, but in Dangerous Driving (Made by B3 devs) Survival is a mode where you have to drive as fast as you can for as long as you can without crashing
Have you tried to modify with the SDK RenderWare Studio ?
Next question. Gameplay wise, I know this is old as fuck but how did the traffic handle? Subway and semis etc
there was more traffic but I dont think how they behave was changed
9:52 Maybe "RR" means Road Rage??? Its possible i think...
the need for speed underground 2 demo is called "need for speed underground demo" on a demo disc aswell. absolutely 0 chance that they would shove an already released game onto burnout for promotion. apart from that you seem to be getting a better hang on things.
also cg1 = criterion game 1 because this was the first game made by criterion under ea
+Speedyheart But wasn't it too early in development to have a proper working demo? It can just be a placeholder name, dind't the NFSU2 demo date back to May of 2004?
+GrandTheftAero no? there is a video which explained that in nfsu2 very early on they decided to try it as an open world and then they talked about segmenting off beacon hills and adding a few races and thats what the demo was made from
Speedyheart lol mw2011
Burnout 3 came first
hey, what program did you use to rip these files from the burnout 3 iso?
The title music brings back memories
Has anyone else noticed that NFS Underground 2 had a demo of Burnout 3 It seemed like EA spent most of their time on Burnout than NFS. 🤔🤔😔.
Cesar Cantu and bo3 had a demo of nfs ug2
good
burnout is better
Both games are good
@@tazoid3 black ops 3?
@@yenice3652 burnout 3...
Nice video dude it's Nuk3bom8 from xbox bro keep up with the good work!
+Nuk3bom8 thanks alot man!
I think that Battle Race should had been a fusion bewteen Road Rage and normal races.
You forgot to mention that the Super Type 2 has a different Front Bumper as seen in the Intro, and also the Muscle Type 2 has different rims in the Game Case?
Rims r just art exclusive thing
Wow, this goes in-depth. Good stuff.
what did you use to view the files play the traffic cars
Why is the video not available? Is it just unavailable on mobile?
Dude, you should have way more views and Subs for the great vídeos, acknowledge and music.
GP RR is probably Gran Prix Road Rage
Awesome editing!
how did u open the RWS files?
RR could stand for Road Rage
So...GP RR might be a Grand Prix were you are supposed to do a lot of takedowns
The demo disc cover should have been the official box art cover
no
Nope because back then the game was alot darker then when it came out. ig that was also the tone for the coverart in the demo
Lol I made that comment 7 years ago. I was dumb as shit back then
Off 1vs1 racer was returned in burnout legends and horns was also added and there returned cops car yes burnout legends has pursuit gamemode other fun fact burnout legends has some burnout 2 cars.
"Gamestart" are from sega game called space harrier
0:39 ngl, looks sick
GP RR could be Grand Prix Road Rage
Can you please do Ford Racing 3?
Thank you for that
I recently finished this game career mode and I have all the gold and all the Crash stuff and everything, so I 100% this on the original Xbox! I missed this game so much but why when I can play it when I want lol
How can you open .awd?
I had the demo disc of Burnout 3 but i lost it but i still have the full game disc and the burnout 3 demo is on the Greatest hits version of NFS U2
We can play demo on nfsu 2
great job
The Burnout 3 Pilot XD
gamestart is literally just stolen from Space Harrier coin insert
Hmm... I remember that this demo also came with NFS U2. A friend could play both games on xbox
yea everyone knew ok?
@@arteonyx Ok, but it would have been awesome if I asked you to say that. It was just my comment
GPRR probably means GrandPrix RoadRage
I'd love to see some demo taxi action!
+readypercival yeeeeeeeee ill maek a vidya in 5.26 years aboot it
Nice , as always , quality stuff , any new stuff about the mod ? im looking forward for that :D , still , you never cease to find out good information ,
+AztecaEh Eh Mod will be released next week. And thanks!
+GrandTheftAero did i just read that right ? Nice , i assume it dosen't have beta paintjobs . or research on that didnt really occur ? its just that blue super type 1 ... oh god . lol
+AztecaEh Eh Probaly not possible, if the colors aren't removed and is just inaccessible, it's possible. But if they are completely removed, then no.
+AztecaEh Eh Oh, and it's going to be an alpha version of the mod. So expect some bugs. The boost bar is glitched af and i don't know on how to fix it at the moment. After i release an alpha version, i will probaly work on one for Revenge.
+GrandTheftAero Hey will it work on my FMCB PS2? I'm kinda interested in it.
I only have the Burnout 3 demo on my nfsug2 disc
me and my mate always jammed this off nfsu2
amazing tks
This demo its final version because NFS underground 2 its later to Burnout 3
no because the demo featured in UG2 is a different and final demo build than the one shown in the video
@@grandtheftaero1 its strange because EA games Stiller Crazy for the hidden games
nostalgiaaaaa
If you play the hidden game on demo
I Whant to play burnout but my ps2 melted and my pc is shit to support a emulator
cool
Probably in gp the rr used to mean road rage
i also have the demo i think on Burnout revenge or Burnout overtake inn my p2
+Apriel Phaskah Burnout: Overtake dosen't exist.
i think he means takedown
Would have been an interesting game though, Burnout: Overtake
i wanna play it. :p
Funny how a game gets so dumbed down when on a time crunch to get it done..
It was intentional tho 😭😭😭
Gp RR is i think gp road rage
0:35 you missed the NFS Ug2 demo
No that's an after release demo and isn't really relevant to the video
3:15 not only was ai behavior and crashes different... But also the lines and symbols accompanying them didnt make it into the final game. I dont recall "under rival" nor the symbols
Looks like Burnout haves a lot beta stuffs
+Khalid NFS it does
GrandTheftAero Can you make GTA beta videos?
Khalid NFS Well, i have been thinking to talk about cut radiostations/songs from GTA.
GrandTheftAero Okay :)
+GrandTheftAero For some reasons Driver's Ed was meant to be in Burnout 3 Takedown but It was cut from the game but you can see it only on Training icon of the menu
13:02 Really...
I have demo of burnout on underground 2 but underground 2 ded
WHERE ARE IMPACT SOUNDS? 🥹 they had different tone in demo than in actual - for those, who dont know, burnout was supposed to be horror driving game(then EA cut this tone away), when you crash, you should be aware of what can happen in IRL
Most of them are still in the game but edited and only when you use the impact time