Excellent series, very understandably put. Greetings from Finland. Haven't heard other perspectives than futurism/premillennialism taught around here so thank you and thank God for RUclips.
Thanks for your hard work and good teaching, dear friend. Enjoy a few months "break", and we will all look forward to the return of the "Gorepocalypse" in a few months. Blessings to you and yours!
Bruce I really appreciate it when you mention the root of Bible text you are covering. I'm more in the received text position so I like knowing when you're using the critical text for your analysis. Discovering your channel has been such a blessing! I hadn't been given an accurate depiction of Calvin before discovering your channel. Keep up the good work!
this year i spent my christmas time to study the book of Revelation, I repeated few times. Merry Christmas Prof Bruce Gore, it is truly a blessing for me, incredible teaching. thx u so much
I’ve enjoyed the series immensely! I was very surprised at how much was interpreted to be in the first century. I continue to familiarize myself with the Historicist interpretation. It makes sense that the Apostle John was speaking to his generation of what must shortly come to pass. Thanks again!
Mr. Gore, the more I learn about the Bible the more I love the Bible. I have learned a lot watching your videos. Many thanks. I look forward to the continuation of this series in the fall. In the mean time I will watch your series on the prophets.
Amen! I can’t wait for the continuation of this study. Thank you again for your diligent service and for teaching The Word of God, truthfully and with zeal.
Thank you Mr. Gore for another master class. Thank you for listening to the voice of the Holy Spirit and researching this subject matter for the benefit of those who don't have access to the historical material, which allows for contextual examination. God willing i look forward to your future installments and wish you and your family Gods continued blessings and may he preserve you blameless until he comes when he will destroy the last enemy. Amen. Buen trabajo. Bendiciones
We're using this interim time to review each lesson. It's great how God brings new things to light. We were watching the lesson on Rev 6:1-6. The teaching on our prayers based on Rom 8:26-28 was very encouraging to me. Our church has no pastor presently and as an elder, I'm called on to pray during our service. I've always felt inadequate, but now I realize that I shouldn't worry, but just pray from the heart knowing that the Holt Spirit will intercede and perfect my prayers.
Amen to that! ...and by the way, part two of Revelation starts the second Sunday of September, and the video should be available online within a day or two of the presentation. Thanks for your patience!
You mention around 24:00 that Revelation 11:17 doesn't have "to come" ...but for some reason the KJV does have it. i don't think any of the others do. What is going on here? i was expecting, at least, a Greek word to be there to be translated for something else ...it's like the KJV is using a different source?
@@GoreBruce this is weird though? Why are different Bibles using different source text? Don't get be wrong, i'm all for The Kingdom being RIGHT NOW. We have stronger evidence for It than this anyways.
@@EastGateAdoptionist An adequate answer would require a somewhat involved discussion of 'textual criticism,' an ongoing science that attempts to reconstruct the most probable reading of the Greek New Testament. This discipline is necessary because we do not have the original Greek manuscripts, but hundreds of copies dating to the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th centuries. New discoveries sometimes require adjustments from the texts that were available at an earlier time. The KJV was based on the 'Textus Receptus' prepared by Erasmus. It was excellent, but in the last 500 years, a variety of discoveries have required alterations of that text. The text in question here would be one of those.
@@GoreBruce Hey for extra bonus, check this out: New Heavenly Jerusalem is right now! Mat 5:14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Mat 5:15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
I am partially Preterist. I now work on how far to carry it. Rev 11:18 says it is time for judgment >> For the dead >> For those who fear God's name That seems much more like a finale to history than a destruction of Jerusalem. There is a similar dual (wicked/righteous) judgment at the end of ch 14 There are three "ends" that are much more questionable: ch 16, 19:1-10, 19:20-21 Back to finale at 20:11-15
When I was still an atheist but first started wanting to read more of the bible cuz started to understand maybe the ideas I had about Christian ideology weren’t exactly what I had thought they were but I was still learning and frequently got hung up on some of what sounded to be like ‘imaginary stuff’ no different than fiction or something I thought ... still I was drawn to understand His word . So I went to my older senior ‘mentor’ type friend who wasn’t offended by my questioning and judgemental nature towards religion etc and shines so bright with His spirit that I saw past my misconceptions and asked her where I should start in bible ?? Old Testament was kinda confusing but I like to read things in order 😂I sayd but was more interested in New Testament etc and was confused on how it was the same story was told by dufferent ppl in different orders etc she said start with New Testament but whatever you do don’t start with revelation! I didn’t really get it at the time but now I soo do she knew the language would deter me at the time ! Haha 😬I’m glad I waited till now cuz before I had only heard vague pop culture type references to apolocoplyse etc as presented with the ‘in the future’ versions that always sounded so kooky to me! I had never heard any reference to historical aspect and it makes sooo much more sense to someone like me who wants to embrace this yet am very analytical and scientific so I love how you always touch on that like stars falling from sky through our current understanding vs their cosmology etc all that would have confused me a lot so glad I did wait to hear it through your wonderful teaching , Your grounding in history while still expressing the truth behind all of it helps my faith and understanding grow so much ! There are still some aspects I struggle with but am on the right path 🙏Thanks for you and your teachings ! Stay safe during this time!
Finally I have seen a person who not only reads the Bible but can interpret it with its Hebrew and Greek meaning. 😮😊. When you say other lesser gods people look at you like you have 4 heads. You have made my day.😊
The pharisees became the Rabbis of today. Akiba in "revised" scripture to point away from Yeshua...most likely due to their own guilt and the fact they wanted a human general and king...they didnt want to lose their power!
Dr. I love your teaching. You truly have been gifted by the Holy Spirit to Teach!😀 But man, please research the origins of the Vaticanus and the Sinaiticus. Chris Pinto or David Daniels (Chick Tracts). I am a Calvinists. Because that is what Jesus said. That is what Paul said. That is what the Holy Spirit says is true. (The whole Calvinist thing should be Jesusist). Brother, please see that so-called oldest isn't best. Please incorporate that truth into your sublime teaching.
Truth about God's preserved word. Erasmus was hounded to no end to use the Vaticanus in his "received" text. He wouldn't do it. He knew better. He wasn't some bought that off cardinal. He knew it was a forgery. Earliest discovery was 1475.
Be careful, sir. God's word need no improvement! The AV 1611, is God's pure words. Deuteronomy 32:8-9 goes like this, For the LORD's portion his people; Jacob the lot of his inheritance. Do you see? It was according to the NUMBER of the children of Israel. Says nothing about "gods". God does not change his word over the course of human history and then decide to hide some scrolls in a den somewhere obscure that we should pay any attention to. What about all the generations that went buy fore the dead sea scrolls were found? They did not have the pure word of God? You really think this is the case? No no. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. Psalm 12:6-7 Ask yourself, sir, How did an idiot like me from Norway find the pure words of God, and not you, a well educated teacher in the word of God? How did that escape you? I pray and hope that you will go back to the holy bible. Your teachings are great and I have learned a lot in this series. Thank you, sir, and God bless you!
Yes, I grew up on the King James myself, and respect it greatly. The earliest Hebrew texts behind the KJV date to around 900 a.d. Since then manuscripts dating a thousand years earlier, and far more reliable, have been found and incorporated into translations. Hence the improved rendering of Deuteronomy 32.
Why is the 1611 the only pure word of God?? What about all the translations before it? Geneva, Bishops, Tyndale, Matthews etc & or even the 1769 KJV. Wouldnt the preserved manuscripts be the word of God? Dont forget the KJ translators used the translations before it & even speak on it in the Preface. KJV Only does not hold up, as if God cant use any means He wants to glorify His truth. Scholars put in an tremendous amount of time & tedious effort translating holy scripture, to get it as close in English from manuscripts recent & past
Excellent series, very understandably put. Greetings from Finland. Haven't heard other perspectives than futurism/premillennialism taught around here so thank you and thank God for RUclips.
Thanks for your hard work and good teaching, dear friend. Enjoy a few months "break", and we will all look forward to the return of the "Gorepocalypse" in a few months. Blessings to you and yours!
You are a non-stop source of joy my dear friend. Thank you.
This has all been amazing, thank you for your time and praise Jesus.
Bruce I really appreciate it when you mention the root of Bible text you are covering. I'm more in the received text position so I like knowing when you're using the critical text for your analysis. Discovering your channel has been such a blessing! I hadn't been given an accurate depiction of Calvin before discovering your channel. Keep up the good work!
this year i spent my christmas time to study the book of Revelation, I repeated few times. Merry Christmas Prof Bruce Gore, it is truly a blessing for me, incredible teaching. thx u so much
Thank you!
Thanks. Thanks for using the gifts God gave you to reach the masses. I really enjoy all your lectures.
I’ve enjoyed the series immensely! I was very surprised at how much was interpreted to be in the first century.
I continue to familiarize myself with the Historicist interpretation. It makes sense that the Apostle John was speaking to his generation of what must shortly come to pass. Thanks again!
Mr. Gore, the more I learn about the Bible the more I love the Bible. I have learned a lot watching your videos. Many thanks. I look forward to the continuation of this series in the fall. In the mean time I will watch your series on the prophets.
Thank you. I appreciate that very much.
I'm so glad you are you are here, understanding many thing
Thank you! Always a delight to hear from you!
I'm jealous of the gift of teaching God has blessed you with . Pray for me
Inspiring delivery !
Shalom 🙏👍🏻
Amen! I can’t wait for the continuation of this study. Thank you again for your diligent service and for teaching The Word of God, truthfully and with zeal.
Thank you! I appreciate your frequent encouraging words!
Thank you Mr. Gore for another master class. Thank you for listening to the voice of the Holy Spirit and researching this subject matter for the benefit of those who don't have access to the historical material, which allows for contextual examination. God willing i look forward to your future installments and wish you and your family Gods continued blessings and may he preserve you blameless until he comes when he will destroy the last enemy. Amen. Buen trabajo. Bendiciones
Muchas gracias mi amigo
We're using this interim time to review each lesson. It's great how God brings new things to light. We were watching the lesson on Rev 6:1-6. The teaching on our prayers based on Rom 8:26-28 was very encouraging to me. Our church has no pastor presently and as an elder, I'm called on to pray during our service. I've always felt inadequate, but now I realize that I shouldn't worry, but just pray from the heart knowing that the Holt Spirit will intercede and perfect my prayers.
Amen to that! ...and by the way, part two of Revelation starts the second Sunday of September, and the video should be available online within a day or two of the presentation. Thanks for your patience!
@@GoreBruce Thanks for the heads up. My wife and I are looking forward to it.
Bruce Gore meeting Michael Heiser in the Divine Coucil worldview.
Enough to make a theology nerd faint.
Amen and Amen
May Father YAHweh bless your understanding.
Thank you brother Bruce.
I can not Waite for the day that Jesus teaches us again!
Thank you!
Thanx! He is Faithful!
My KJV includes "..who is to come.."🤔 in verse Revelations 11:17. What version could Mr Bruce be using?
That phrase is not well attested at all in the best Greek manuscripts.
@@GoreBruce Mmh, okay. What version did you use to teach that series on Revelation?
I believe I used the NKJV or NIV for the most part. However, I relied primarily on the Greek text at any point where there appeared to be ambiguity.
@@GoreBruce Thank you for your response. May God bless you.
You mention around 24:00 that Revelation 11:17 doesn't have "to come" ...but for some reason the KJV does have it. i don't think any of the others do. What is going on here? i was expecting, at least, a Greek word to be there to be translated for something else ...it's like the KJV is using a different source?
Yes, the KJV included the phrase 'is to come' but the evidence is overwhelming that the phrase was not in the Greek of John's original writing.
@@GoreBruce this is weird though? Why are different Bibles using different source text? Don't get be wrong, i'm all for The Kingdom being RIGHT NOW. We have stronger evidence for It than this anyways.
@@EastGateAdoptionist An adequate answer would require a somewhat involved discussion of 'textual criticism,' an ongoing science that attempts to reconstruct the most probable reading of the Greek New Testament. This discipline is necessary because we do not have the original Greek manuscripts, but hundreds of copies dating to the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th centuries. New discoveries sometimes require adjustments from the texts that were available at an earlier time. The KJV was based on the 'Textus Receptus' prepared by Erasmus. It was excellent, but in the last 500 years, a variety of discoveries have required alterations of that text. The text in question here would be one of those.
@@GoreBruce Hey for extra bonus, check this out: New Heavenly Jerusalem is right now!
Mat 5:14
Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
Mat 5:15
Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
The video says the "raging of the nations" comes from Psalms. To me, it looks a lot like Isaiah 17:12. I wonder if one or both of these applies.
I am partially Preterist.
I now work on how far to carry it.
Rev 11:18 says it is time for judgment
>> For the dead
>> For those who fear God's name
That seems much more like a finale to history than a destruction of Jerusalem.
There is a similar dual (wicked/righteous) judgment at the end of ch 14
There are three "ends" that are much more questionable: ch 16, 19:1-10, 19:20-21
Back to finale at 20:11-15
I hope you will be patient as I plan to treat all those texts in detail when the time comes. Thanks for your interest!
When I was still an atheist but first started wanting to read more of the bible cuz started to understand maybe the ideas I had about Christian ideology weren’t exactly what I had thought they were but I was still learning and frequently got hung up on some of what sounded to be like ‘imaginary stuff’ no different than fiction or something I thought ... still I was drawn to understand His word . So I went to my older senior ‘mentor’ type friend who wasn’t offended by my questioning and judgemental nature towards religion etc and shines so bright with His spirit that I saw past my misconceptions and asked her where I should start in bible ?? Old Testament was kinda confusing but I like to read things in order 😂I sayd but was more interested in New Testament etc and was confused on how it was the same story was told by dufferent ppl in different orders etc she said start with New Testament but whatever you do don’t start with revelation! I didn’t really get it at the time but now I soo do she knew the language would deter me at the time ! Haha 😬I’m glad I waited till now cuz before I had only heard vague pop culture type references to apolocoplyse etc as presented with the ‘in the future’ versions that always sounded so kooky to me! I had never heard any reference to historical aspect and it makes sooo much more sense to someone like me who wants to embrace this yet am very analytical and scientific so I love how you always touch on that like stars falling from sky through our current understanding vs their cosmology etc all that would have confused me a lot so glad I did wait to hear it through your wonderful teaching , Your grounding in history while still expressing the truth behind all of it helps my faith and understanding grow so much ! There are still some aspects I struggle with but am on the right path 🙏Thanks for you and your teachings ! Stay safe during this time!
I am very grateful for that thoughtful feedback! Blessings on you as you continue to study and digest the Word of God!
I feel like you have read Dr Michael Heisers work. 😇
You quote from the Message!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????? Wow. What are you doing? I am shocked!
Finally I have seen a person who not only reads the Bible but can interpret it with its Hebrew and Greek meaning. 😮😊. When you say other lesser gods people look at you like you have 4 heads. You have made my day.😊
Psalm 82, Deut 32, 1st Enoch, etc. If people check them out in Hebrew, and don't have closed minds, they'll understand. Otherwise, yep! 4 heads! lol
❤️👍😎
Is this an Amillennial prospective?
Some call it 'amillennial,' and some call it 'postmillennial.' I prefer the term, 'a theology of hope.'
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The pharisees became the Rabbis of today. Akiba in "revised" scripture to point away from Yeshua...most likely due to their own guilt and the fact they wanted a human general and king...they didnt want to lose their power!
Dr. I love your teaching. You truly have been gifted by the Holy Spirit to Teach!😀
But man, please research the origins of the Vaticanus and the Sinaiticus.
Chris Pinto or David Daniels (Chick Tracts).
I am a Calvinists. Because that is what Jesus said. That is what Paul said. That is what the Holy Spirit says is true. (The whole Calvinist thing should be Jesusist). Brother, please see that so-called oldest isn't best. Please incorporate that truth into your sublime teaching.
Truth about God's preserved word. Erasmus was hounded to no end to use the Vaticanus in his "received" text. He wouldn't do it. He knew better. He wasn't some bought that off cardinal. He knew it was a forgery. Earliest discovery was 1475.
Bruce gore using the Bible to understand the Bible
The enemy is the one who sublimates the true gospel into a theological term like Calvinism. The truth is it is Jesusism.
All faith is a gift from The Father. All faith in the Son is a gift from The Father.
Be careful, sir. God's word need no improvement! The AV 1611, is God's pure words. Deuteronomy 32:8-9 goes like this,
For the LORD's portion his people; Jacob the lot of his inheritance.
Do you see? It was according to the NUMBER of the children of Israel. Says nothing about "gods". God does not change his word over the course of human history and then decide to hide some scrolls in a den somewhere obscure that we should pay any attention to. What about all the generations that went buy fore the dead sea scrolls were found? They did not have the pure word of God? You really think this is the case? No no.
Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. Psalm 12:6-7
Ask yourself, sir, How did an idiot like me from Norway find the pure words of God, and not you, a well educated teacher in the word of God? How did that escape you? I pray and hope that you will go back to the holy bible. Your teachings are great and I have learned a lot in this series. Thank you, sir, and God bless you!
Yes, I grew up on the King James myself, and respect it greatly. The earliest Hebrew texts behind the KJV date to around 900 a.d. Since then manuscripts dating a thousand years earlier, and far more reliable, have been found and incorporated into translations. Hence the improved rendering of Deuteronomy 32.
Why is the 1611 the only pure word of God?? What about all the translations before it? Geneva, Bishops, Tyndale, Matthews etc & or even the 1769 KJV. Wouldnt the preserved manuscripts be the word of God? Dont forget the KJ translators used the translations before it & even speak on it in the Preface. KJV Only does not hold up, as if God cant use any means He wants to glorify His truth. Scholars put in an tremendous amount of time & tedious effort translating holy scripture, to get it as close in English from manuscripts recent & past