@@swishpronoob Same! It always sounds like a gimmick that people think that they'd want, but one that they'd never actually use. Of course, Nintendo fanboys will be quick to assure you that they constantly see people playing their Switch in the airport, on the train, and on the bus.
swishpronoob I have a switch but I’ll never do that. Why would I want to play Mario kart in a train when I can safely at home. Is a gimmick like the other kid said. Especially now with Covid 19.
I remember the time where I couldn't even run this game on my PC.. and here we are today Metro on a fcking tablet running better than what I had back then.
You must be high, The puplishers just want the games on switch asap as it's the cool with the kids console right now. I understand graphics isn't everything but you have to draw the line somewhere and say this looks like utter shit and that 1:10 loading time is BS.
Maybe if Nintendo didn't cheap-out and be lazy with the hardware, we would've seen many more impressive games on the Switch. In particular, they needed to use better fabrication (14nm) on release with modern (8-core ARM Cortex A72) cores, more (8GB) RAM, and adequate (64GB) storage. Perhaps even include an extra fan in the Dock. Now it can compete against the Base PS4/XB1 somewhat, and would benefit from heaps of third-party ports. Sure it will be SLIGHTLY more expensive to produce, but with mass-production and over the long time of the console.... it will become much more cheaper. Not to mention, fix the issues of the JoyCon slide, use proper audio solution for Bluetooth, get rid of those tiny internal buttons, and scrap the idea of 4-Player mode on that tiny screen. Overall, they should be able to compete without entirely relying on nostalgia and first-party titles. People would get it because it offered CURRENT games in a portable form-factor, and something much out of reach from Mobile Phone games. ...but since Nintendo opted for short-term gains instead of the long-term strategy, the Switch is going to be competing with people's already devices like iPhone/iPad/Android.... that's tough. And it's going to look outdated struggling to do 720p at 30fps with low-textures when the PS5/Xbox V comes at the end of the year with much higher textures, +60fps, and scratching 4K resolution. Like comparing the GameCube to an Xbox 360.... that's tough, again.
@@XZ-III it's mostly because thsi is the redux version and not the original (even though redux ran better on PC than both of the original games), but yeah, it was honestly to be expected metro would run well
@@GraveUypo Not really, they were released on past generation consoles, but the games were so downgraded that it was almost like playing another game. The Metro series were originally made for PC, these games were actually so graphically intensive that it brought graphics cards of the time to their knees, I had the newest graphics card and struggled with getting running them at a decent frame rate. On the contrary the PS3 and x360 were extremely down watered versions of the pc game.
I can remember struggling to maintain 30+ FPS on the first Metro with my old Radeon HD 6970 and Phenom II X6 1055t machine, and now an enhanced version of it is running smoothly on a handheld.
It really is impressive, wish more people who are so over critical on it's hardware and take a moment to think what we had last gen and how games ran compared to now with a handheld sized devices hardware
A GPU bottleneck perhaps? I have run the game just fine on FX8120 processor, which is basically a failed product. In my case it is paired with an Radeon RX 480 which is significantly bottlenecked by the CPU.
I have a gut feeling that the reason that 4A Games decided to spend that much time fine-tuning the controls and the deadzone values in this release, is because back then when I reviewed Metro: Exodus on PC, before the game's release, I've sent a lengthy technical explanation to them in e-mail in which I detailed why the game is completely unresponsive with a controller (I talked about proper deadzone values, sensitivity curve, etc.). They answered and they've listened because roughly a month later they have released a patch in which they added another control scheme to the game with modified deadzone values. It looks like they are doing the same here, but this time it's no longer a secondary control scheme, it's actually the main control scheme which I'm very happy about.
The controls definitely did improve with patches so I appreciate you reaching out to them. Personally I use preset 2 with the sliders at 70%, 80%, 30% and 0% roughly. Preset 2 imo has the best response curve
@@HugoStiglitz88 Thanks! I think 4A Games is such an awesome team and it shows how much they care that they listen to random people like me. I also think that Digital Foundry should talk about technical aspects like these more - some games have very major deadzone problems on PC (Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided). I hate when games use unnecesseraly high deadzones. An ideal value is around 5-10% (15% at the very max). 10% prevents stick drifting with used controllers while it still offers great responsivity and you can make precise circular movements with it. The deadzone was originally around 30-40% in Exodus before that on PC and basically I was only able to turn my camera if I tilted the stick fully to the edge all the time, so basically, I had to play like those people who never ever used controllers before in their life - you know, the type of people who use it like a D-Pad. It was a challenge to shoot even a single target, while I can make precise headshots in a game such as R6S, even without "auto-aim", because of the well-tuned controls.
It would be nice to have a video before the end of this year talking about all the technology that has been developed this generation. Dynamic resolution, checkerboard rendering, temporal reconstruction, DLSS, variable shading... These are game changing and have as much impact as LOD had back in the 90's. Excited to see these techniques mature and get better utilized coupled with the upcoming consoles, having the default lowest common denominator be a Ryzen CPU with 8 cores and 16 threads on machines with fast storage will surely bring in a much needed leap. Let's not forget Ray Tracing on top of all that as it keeps maturing and is something else that will be default for game development going forward. What do you say Digital Foundry? A video looking at this generation and the lessons learned that will carry on into the future?
WE NEED A DEADSPACE TRIOLOGY EDITION PORT, THAT GAME HAS INSANE OPTIMIZATION, IMAGINE HOW WELL AND SMOOTH IT COULD RUN HANDHELD MODE, EA WE NEEEEEED IT, EA TAX STAMP IT, WHATEVER PRICE IT IS, WE NEEEEED IT
Fun fact: Metro Last Light was originally going to be released on Wii U in addition to Xbox 360 and PS3, but it ended up being cancelled. In a way, this is like Last Light is finally arriving after almost 9 years since its announcement.
I remember that, I remember seeing gameplay of it before the launch of the wii u and always wondered what happened? The wii u didn't do well in sales so I guess I answered my own question
They had me at both games in one cart. Much like The Witcher 3 with all content in one cart. None of this "buy the game and download a separate other game". Final Fantasy X/X-2 has both games although it's X in a cart and X-2 has digital; HOWEVER the Asian Switch copy of FFX/X-2 contains both games in one cart (available at PlayAsia for those interested).
@@Sly2Cooper Если ты про Project Stalker: там далеко не вся игра, он кривой, да еще и тач управление только. Если ты про проект STALKER PORTABLE: там все на ранней стадии разработки Если ты про STALKER на GPDwin/2: тут да, поиграть можно, но брать железку без гарантии за $500, чтобы поиграть в игру 10+ летней давности не каждый захочет
@@FounderX9 yeah. Same here. I'm just on the move a lot as of recently. The switch itself has been a great purchase for me. As for the game, of course it's downscaled, but playable for my eyes at least. But yeah, opinions man. It's all good.
And in their case it's about getting two GAMECUBE ERA games on the cartridge. Fucking capcom man, they're pumping out amazing titles in recent times but they've never really been the best with ports...
@@Msf1011 yeah, all their game collections follow the same formula, 1 game in cartridge and you have to download the rest, the megaman legacy collection 1 + 2 on steam doesn't take more than 7gb of space, it should be on the same game card, it kills the purpose of getting a physical copy
Well then, I've owned the original Metro 2033 on PC for years but only ever put in 30 mins because I got distracted with other games and university. Seeing this conversion run so well on the Switch has pretty much sold it to me. Going to pick this one up asap. Great analysis and thank you 4A games for a great conversion of the games!
This makes no sense - why not just play the pc version you already have? This is not a good mobile game due to the quality of the screen, and the atmosphere is not one for playing with people around. To each their own, I guess.
@@xBINARYGODx It's more to do with how I like to play. I tend to play competitive multiplayer FPS's on my PC but if it's a single player game, especially one that I missed, then I like to be able to sit away from my desk with the Switch/Vita. I've found personally I'm more likely to play games i've missed on handhelds rather than PC/PS4/XB1 so the Switch and Vita have done a good job there. For me at least, Metro on the Switch will probably be the way i'll properly play the game, much like Wolfenstein 2 was. Now that I think about it, I may even actually finish Skyrim if I pick it up on Switch (yes it's a crime i've still not finished Skyrim!) But I do understand where you're coming from.
@@mrratchet Agreed the switch is a great platform. I competed the original version on pc upon release years ago and is an amazing game and would reccomend paying on pc in a dark room for true immersion.
Absolutely fantastic video, covers everything I wanted to know... bonus points for mentioning 5.1 audio as no one else I have watched bothers to for any game.
Thanks. Honestly they should put that in the description or somewhere similar. For people like me, a 40 second video with comparison footage and framerate + resolution numbers in the corner would be everything I need. Longer videos tend to waste my time, especially if it's a port.
720p with a a bunch of excuses to make it sound better than it really is because this is a Switch video and just simply stating resolution numbers would make it sound worse. Honestly for these guys who actually were a huge reason people started focusing on resolution numbers in the first place to now all the sudden be like, "resolution doesn't matter" now that they have a thing for Switch is just madness to me.
@@Jaqen-HGhar but resolution really doesn't matter anymore. A 1440p checkerboard image render looks just as good if not better than native 4k; it's not just about raw pixel quality anymore, it's about anti-aliasing techniques. Plus, resolutions are no now dynamically changing to increase performance stability.
@@Vicmor0 yeah I have it on the xbox one, but I have to fight my sons to get time on the xbox, playing on the switch is easier for me. Plus I can take with me to my office and play on my intervals.
@@jacobjordan8340 only way I'll get around to finally beating it. I've bought these games twice already 2033 and lastlight for the xbox 360 and then redux for my xbox one and some how have a digital copy for PC which I didn't buy. Dont remember how i obtained it.
Kudos to 4A! What a fantastic port! I wish more developers would port the games to the Switch themselves like 4A. It allows them to maintain the integrity of the game they created as opposed to when the 3rd party studios do it. With 3rd party ports, often times all they care about is getting the game to run at a respectable performance profile while often sacrificing key elements of the games presentation which leads to it losing what makes a game special. Great job as always John! Keep up the good work
Ambro i mean, wasn’t doom and wolfenstein port developed by a third party company, and they did better than most other companies? I think it depends on the company, Bluepoint is also known for very good ports. There’s also bad ports from developers themselves that are extremely bad, because they simply do not have the resources or time to work on a port while they are working on newer games. Third party studios on the other hand are able to fully focus on ports and put all their resources onto it. So tbh, you can’t really tell which version is better because it just depends on the port.
@@kohkisparten117 That's true. Doom was considered an impossible port and owning it myself, I can say that I find the port well done. Not to mention PB have improved it with patches over time. I think it also depends on the individual and what his/her tolerance level is for acceptable. For example, I do not find the most recent Wolfenstein ports acceptable. dropping to 360p and having poor performance really doesn't cut it for me and those were handled by Panic Button as well. Others do find it a good port. To each his own. Another example. I find the Port of TW3 acceptable (and miraculous) but others do no and that was done by Saber Interactive. But then there are disasters like ARK who did it in house (I believe, someone correct me if I'm wrong ) and well... we all know how that went. I guess I'm just happy that, for a series as beloved as Metro, which relies so heavily on its story telling and atmosphere, that 4A took the time to make sure it maintained the visual presentation which is so important to them and the franchise.
Yeah I don't really know what you mean. It sounds like you're painting a picture that the majority of third party ports sacrifice the integrity of the games presentation which I don't think is true at all. The reason most companies hire third parties to port their games is because most of the time a third party is going to be able to do a better job than a dev that has no experience porting a game to a mobile device.
It may not have occurred to some people bashing the switch, but the 720p resolution in handheld mode is due to the switch's screen being 720p. A higher resolution for the switch's screen would have drained the battery more quickly and would have given diminishing returns, taking into account screen size and a normal viewing distance. 720p looks amazing enough anyway, idk why people are complaining so much about it. At a normal viewing distance there probably isn't much difference between that and 1080p anyway, viewing distance matters as well.
It does. I got a physical copy yesterday and I can confirm that Gyro aiming is in the game. I just walked in my local store and it was there on the shelf. I got it instantly. Both games on the cartridge with gyro aiming.
@@kyles8524 you must not have Switch... to fail to realize the joy of playing these games on a plane or in the toilet, or in class room, it look sufficient and i think it'll make a lot of players happy..
One console is so small you can fit it in your coat pocket and has a built in screen so you can play it anywhere.... The other is the size of a VHS player from the 90s, and has no screen and needs an external device (TV) or you can't play it. The fact that the former is anywhere in the same conversation as as the latter, shows the impressiveness of the former.
@@SparkyClark I'd take a well calibrated, high quality IPS or any LED over OLED any day for a game console. They're not gonna be able to do pure blacks, but high quality LED screens are gonna be a huge step up, while not risking burn in. I mean, look at what Samsung achieved with a TN panel with their QLED tech.
Stellar work to be honest, of my favorite series of all time. I need to wait for sale as I've bought this 4 times already though. Like how like the Witcher 3 port, they've retained the atmosphere inducing lighting.
well the performance part is the most interesting even though there is not much to talk about. Congratulations to 4A Games. I agree that the darkness of the game might not fit perfectly to portable device, but still responsiveness and performance are a highlight here.
@@ingwarostapenko6874 what are you asking? I didn't say compared to anything. I think we can all argue that the Switch's current graphical output isn't great, many games are blurry and have a lot of aliasing.
Thanks for the review! More and more I find your tech reviews to be more important since so many games miss the mark for general playability. Graphics is one thing, but framerate has been more and more important as I get older.
This is so awesome. I didnt really want to finish playing this game on PC for some reason but to be able to take this with me and being so portable. It's just perfect.
7:50 guess what’s coming out on October 8, 2021. I just so happen to be looking into playing these games and stumbled on this video; then he discusses how this game would be way better on an OLED screen and I just so happened to pre-order the OLED Switch just last week. Can’t wait.
I pre-ordered the physical version the minute it became available. I love this series. Can't wait to see what 4A does next. Now all we need on Switch are good ports of Deus Ex and Dishonored.
Kind of love that these two games manage to give such a solid frame framerate without too many drops in resolutions in both modes. Still to get both of these redux versions on the switch is a fantastic feat, well only so many times people can keep saying that I guess because it just takes a developer that utilises the hardware well and making sacrifices where needed.
John says the switch uses a mediocre lcd screen, but it uses an ips panel which is the best lcd tech at the moment. I've always thought the switch screen was very good especially compared to other handheld and it compares well to smartphone ips screens.
The screen is great for everything except dark scenes, IPS panels don't have good enough contrast to really show what the devs intended. If they could use a VA panel, it would improve things considerably in this case, but you'll get worse viewing angles.
It's a generic LCD. It's doesn't have great colour balance, the quality control in terms of calibration is all over the place with the system, and the has grey black. There are better forms of LCD. It is not using "the best LCD tech"
@@uknighted213 I think you missed the DF video on the modded unlocked tegraX1 playing Witcher 3.. The difference won't be big for this game either... They have already optimized it almost fully...
@@uknighted213 probably a lot to sacrifice to get a minimal performance/visual boost... It would be interesting to watch DF do the analysis but in their Witcher video they said that you have to sacrifice a lot with minimal improvements... I will be more interested in a Darksiders Genesis comparison video... Don't know if they have done that...
Something to note is that Metro Last Light was supposed to be a Wii U launch window game and was in the Wii U announcement. So this isn't the first time it was planned to be on a Nintendo console but the first time it actually made it on one
I arguably like that opening part with the walk through the dark tunnel. Whereas the other consoles gave that "fire aspect effect reflecting on their faces" just the flashlight ONLY glinting on their faces gives the place a very dreading place that is utterly wrapped in darkness except that flashlight shining on someone. Even with some takeaways its arguably just as effective.
I just finished 2033 Redux last night. Played from the Library all the way until the end on the Switch's handheld mode. There are times when the game became too dark even with the flashlight on so I had to rely on the nightvision goggles, specifically in some portions of D6.
This game, is one of those unique gems that wen released it didn't receive the valor it deserves, one of the best shooter of the last generation, the story is amazing, the graphics are top-notch, soundtrack, gameplay, everything on this game is amazing, and the immersion is absolutely incredible. This is really a dream coming true, when Switch was released I was hoping that one day I could play Metro on a portable, now I will, waiting for Square Enix to make my life even better and make a port of Tomb Raider to the Switch.
Activision, yeah. But they already said that mobile (aka phones) are their money maker, so if they choose that route (and I believe they have done that), we might never, ever see an Activision-developed/ported Switch title this gen. As for Rockstar, no, that isn't the case. See, they already ported GTA even for the GBA and previous Nintendo consoles - only to be met with mediocre sales, probably because Nintendo and its audience were always known as the ones who didn't appreciate too violent games. Those companies aren't buying this rumor that "the Nintendo of this gen is embracing all the audiences, even supporting Mature-rated titles." and because of that, after three years(ish) of the Nintendo Switch, those companies won't dare make their Switch ports. Instead they keep looking at each other to see who's gonna give it a shot first. If it's successful, others may follow. Until then, this uncertainty among them continues and no ports are revealed. ISN'T THAT RIGHT, GEARBOX?!
Great breakdown. I have to say that the opinion about the walking segments is subjective. It is one of the things i really enjoy about the metro (and other games) as it forces you to pause and slow down and engage with the story and world you are immersed in.
Hard to believe something that brought pcs and consoles to their knees only a few years ago is now contained in one 16gb cartridge and can be played anywhere...in the dark at least and preferably with headphones on!
The quality and ambition of the Switch ports we've been seeing kinda put the shitty ports of past generations into a new light. It seems like porting a game to low-end hardware and doing a good job of it can done, provided the bar has been set high enough that developers know they won't be able to get away with a cheap, half-assed port.
It’s not like that. At least not all the time. Some developers have a genuinely hard time adapting old tech to the Switch hybrid specs. You must remember that the games have to perform well in both docked and portable modes. I’d imagine that is a very hard challenge
You all seem to really enjoy saying "Volfenshtain" for Wolfenstein, but in that case you should really say "Meet-rroh" (Russian pronunciation, accent on the last syllable) for Metro...
I would love to get this game but I have like 30 other Switch games to beat first. I can't add another unbeaten game to my collection for now. I'll probably get it some the holidays.
I probably would get Darksiders Genesis coming today and then there is Samurai Showdown and then animal crossing... Might probably get these after finishing or at least playing through those... FPS aren't my thing but these games have been done fantastically considering they came on ps4 and xbox one... About 360 version no doubt it would look better...
Awesome review, Would be great to start discussing benefits of overclocking every review ie, full docked gfx on handheld. Battery may suck but for plane trips etc not a big problem
I can FINALLY play Metro inside a metro.
@@thecultofcaged lol
I never see anyone playing with their switch out in public? Am I alone on this?
@@swishpronoob Same! It always sounds like a gimmick that people think that they'd want, but one that they'd never actually use. Of course, Nintendo fanboys will be quick to assure you that they constantly see people playing their Switch in the airport, on the train, and on the bus.
swishpronoob I have a switch but I’ll never do that. Why would I want to play Mario kart in a train when I can safely at home. Is a gimmick like the other kid said. Especially now with Covid 19.
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I remember the time where I couldn't even run this game on my PC.. and here we are today Metro on a fcking tablet running better than what I had back then.
which looks 10 times worse....
Was it a potato?
@@betonman9 looks superior to the last gen version but somehow looks 10 times worse? 🤔
@@betonman9 I can smell a butthurt dude. 😂🤦♂️
a tablet with 5 year old hardware to salt the wound for you
The Switch is crying out for the MGS HD collection
I absoFUCKINGlutely agree!
They finally did the MGS HD collection!!!
But too bad that were freakin lazy as shit : (
RIP Konami
Yeah so, about that... uh... you see...
What had happened, was...
bro predicted the future almost half a decade ago
Hey buddy it happened…it was a lazy port though
I blame you
Incredible port. The Switch really shines when the right developers get their hands on it. Great video, John!
720p and 30 fps port of a last gen game, only blind fans would consider that a good port.
You must be high, The puplishers just want the games on switch asap as it's the cool with the kids console right now. I understand graphics isn't everything but you have to draw the line somewhere and say this looks like utter shit and that 1:10 loading time is BS.
Well said
Totally agree and John does a great job explaining why.
Maybe if Nintendo didn't cheap-out and be lazy with the hardware, we would've seen many more impressive games on the Switch.
In particular, they needed to use better fabrication (14nm) on release with modern (8-core ARM Cortex A72) cores, more (8GB) RAM, and adequate (64GB) storage. Perhaps even include an extra fan in the Dock. Now it can compete against the Base PS4/XB1 somewhat, and would benefit from heaps of third-party ports.
Sure it will be SLIGHTLY more expensive to produce, but with mass-production and over the long time of the console.... it will become much more cheaper.
Not to mention, fix the issues of the JoyCon slide, use proper audio solution for Bluetooth, get rid of those tiny internal buttons, and scrap the idea of 4-Player mode on that tiny screen.
Overall, they should be able to compete without entirely relying on nostalgia and first-party titles. People would get it because it offered CURRENT games in a portable form-factor, and something much out of reach from Mobile Phone games.
...but since Nintendo opted for short-term gains instead of the long-term strategy, the Switch is going to be competing with people's already devices like iPhone/iPad/Android.... that's tough. And it's going to look outdated struggling to do 720p at 30fps with low-textures when the PS5/Xbox V comes at the end of the year with much higher textures, +60fps, and scratching 4K resolution. Like comparing the GameCube to an Xbox 360.... that's tough, again.
Today on "Things I never expected to run on the Switch":
Korozenn ps02 ?
this one shouldn't be one of them. these are last gen games and the switch is more powerful than both last gen consoles.
@@XZ-III it's mostly because thsi is the redux version and not the original (even though redux ran better on PC than both of the original games), but yeah, it was honestly to be expected metro would run well
Ooh I love this episode
@@GraveUypo Not really, they were released on past generation consoles, but the games were so downgraded that it was almost like playing another game.
The Metro series were originally made for PC, these games were actually so graphically intensive that it brought graphics cards of the time to their knees, I had the newest graphics card and struggled with getting running them at a decent frame rate.
On the contrary the PS3 and x360 were extremely down watered versions of the pc game.
I can remember struggling to maintain 30+ FPS on the first Metro with my old Radeon HD 6970 and Phenom II X6 1055t machine, and now an enhanced version of it is running smoothly on a handheld.
It really is impressive, wish more people who are so over critical on it's hardware and take a moment to think what we had last gen and how games ran compared to now with a handheld sized devices hardware
A GPU bottleneck perhaps? I have run the game just fine on FX8120 processor, which is basically a failed product. In my case it is paired with an Radeon RX 480 which is significantly bottlenecked by the CPU.
Technology is damn cool.
@@UltimateAlgorithm Why r u comparing a RX480 with a mobile GPU?
@@dvornikovalexei no, I'm responding to this comment.
I don't even remember this announcement. Good port!
I remember they quietly announced it was coming at some point an I almost forgot.
Really weird. They should've announced it with a Nintendo Direct.
Add on top that the game was developed by a not big ukrainian company with modest budget. It's insane.
@Mr. Flash lol! you liked your own comment and you are prick too. I feel sorry for your family.
@Mr. Flash lol k
I have a gut feeling that the reason that 4A Games decided to spend that much time fine-tuning the controls and the deadzone values in this release, is because back then when I reviewed Metro: Exodus on PC, before the game's release, I've sent a lengthy technical explanation to them in e-mail in which I detailed why the game is completely unresponsive with a controller (I talked about proper deadzone values, sensitivity curve, etc.). They answered and they've listened because roughly a month later they have released a patch in which they added another control scheme to the game with modified deadzone values. It looks like they are doing the same here, but this time it's no longer a secondary control scheme, it's actually the main control scheme which I'm very happy about.
The controls definitely did improve with patches so I appreciate you reaching out to them. Personally I use preset 2 with the sliders at 70%, 80%, 30% and 0% roughly. Preset 2 imo has the best response curve
@@HugoStiglitz88 Thanks! I think 4A Games is such an awesome team and it shows how much they care that they listen to random people like me. I also think that Digital Foundry should talk about technical aspects like these more - some games have very major deadzone problems on PC (Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided).
I hate when games use unnecesseraly high deadzones. An ideal value is around 5-10% (15% at the very max). 10% prevents stick drifting with used controllers while it still offers great responsivity and you can make precise circular movements with it.
The deadzone was originally around 30-40% in Exodus before that on PC and basically I was only able to turn my camera if I tilted the stick fully to the edge all the time, so basically, I had to play like those people who never ever used controllers before in their life - you know, the type of people who use it like a D-Pad. It was a challenge to shoot even a single target, while I can make precise headshots in a game such as R6S, even without "auto-aim", because of the well-tuned controls.
Props on you for reaching out to them and props to them for listening.
wow didnt know that is it better now i might replay it. it was so hard to play at launch i had to put it on easy.
@@konczdavid i played on console. don't think we ever had 30% deadzone. reminds me of the switch joycons lol
6:24 they should have put a cartridge as a loading icon on the corner. lol
That would have been a nice touch...
You are so right.
The PC version probably should have had a hard drive too lololo
or maybe it is actually the back of a bullet all along?
It would be nice to have a video before the end of this year talking about all the technology that has been developed this generation.
Dynamic resolution, checkerboard rendering, temporal reconstruction, DLSS, variable shading...
These are game changing and have as much impact as LOD had back in the 90's.
Excited to see these techniques mature and get better utilized coupled with the upcoming consoles, having the default lowest common denominator be a Ryzen CPU with 8 cores and 16 threads on machines with fast storage will surely bring in a much needed leap.
Let's not forget Ray Tracing on top of all that as it keeps maturing and is something else that will be default for game development going forward.
What do you say Digital Foundry? A video looking at this generation and the lessons learned that will carry on into the future?
I feel like Alex is probably working on a Tech Focus for those along with the rest of the team with finding new ways to analyze and present the data.
Dynamic resolution isn't anything too new though, it's already in 7th gen titles like id Software's RAGE. It might've appeared in older games even.
Seriously impressive port. Will be purchased.
Yeah this and the Witcher
@@thelegendgamer33 don't forget alien isolation
@@RikuoNura383 dragon quest 11
@@jacobjordan8340 yeah I forgot, that's the best version of the game, I really love it
dragon's dogma on switch as well as saints row iv
WE NEED A DEADSPACE TRIOLOGY EDITION PORT, THAT GAME HAS INSANE OPTIMIZATION, IMAGINE HOW WELL AND SMOOTH IT COULD RUN HANDHELD MODE, EA WE NEEEEEED IT, EA TAX STAMP IT, WHATEVER PRICE IT IS, WE NEEEEED IT
Dead Space 1 and 2 would be a day one buy for sure!
It really did. You can run those games on even the weakest pc.
@@HugoStiglitz88 the optimization of those games is just glorious
FULL PHAT CONSOLE EXPERIENCE!!
Justice4All1983 720p 30fps wasn’t even console experience in this game wasn’t even console experience 10 years ago
Fun fact: Metro Last Light was originally going to be released on Wii U in addition to Xbox 360 and PS3, but it ended up being cancelled. In a way, this is like Last Light is finally arriving after almost 9 years since its announcement.
I remember that, I remember seeing gameplay of it before the launch of the wii u and always wondered what happened? The wii u didn't do well in sales so I guess I answered my own question
They had me at both games in one cart. Much like The Witcher 3 with all content in one cart. None of this "buy the game and download a separate other game".
Final Fantasy X/X-2 has both games although it's X in a cart and X-2 has digital; HOWEVER the Asian Switch copy of FFX/X-2 contains both games in one cart (available at PlayAsia for those interested).
Same here - both value and convenience... I’m normally inclined towards digital releases, but went physical media for this one.
Did we get the free dlc
EA: Switch is weak for AAA games
4Games and CD PROJECT RED: really ? lets see
It still weak hahaha low resolution With low Fps hahaha
@PKMN_Trainer_Chito And they're present, unlike EA.
@@gabrielbarbosinha it's still a AAA pc game running on a handheld, hahaha
@@gabrielbarbosinha alright mate hahahahahaha calm down hahahahahahahahaha
actually saber interactive developed the witcher 3 port
thumbs up because you reviewed input latency!
logos paint
Some hacking minigames in Alien Isolation are such a pain because of the delay.
The only reason to buy Metro on Switch is to play in handheld mode anyway. Looks so good in handheld, I'm probably going to pick both of them.
That applies to any multi-platform game that is also on Switch, not just Metro. Unless Switch is your only device of course.
@@lwaves That's true, but only for good ports. Of course 30 fps is the way to go for almost any game that comes to Switch, no way around it.
that's the only reason too pick up any multiplat on the switch....
@@lwaves I didn't see your comment before mine
Why switch lite is better imo
Started playing this for the first time last night. One of the most tense experiences I’ve had in a while. Love it.
It's awesome
Digital Foundry and Nintendo Switch I always watch that video
Imagine, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. on Switch
get a kickstarter going to get it ported, without bugs, and it would be amazing! STRELOK!!!
Русский что ли?
@@Sly2Cooper Сталкер знают во всем мире, не только в России
@@dolorsitametblue просто поиграть в портативного Сталкера можно хоть сейчас. Портативный Сталкер доступен уже несколько лет как.
@@Sly2Cooper Если ты про Project Stalker: там далеко не вся игра, он кривой, да еще и тач управление только.
Если ты про проект STALKER PORTABLE: там все на ранней стадии разработки
Если ты про STALKER на GPDwin/2: тут да, поиграть можно, но брать железку без гарантии за $500, чтобы поиграть в игру 10+ летней давности не каждый захочет
Can’t wait to play this for my first time. It looks fun.
2 great games. You won't regret it.
Why didnt you before are you a fanboy
@@iamarabicandiloveamericanp7137 who cares why
@@iamarabicandiloveamericanp7137 good god the immaturity in this comment is horrendous
I'll definitely be buying this game yet again but on the switch this time. Looks amazing
Me too 😎
not me
@@FounderX9 to each their own man. Have a decent day playing on your high end pc. Hopefully we both will have fun doing our own thing today.
@@FounderX9 yeah. Same here. I'm just on the move a lot as of recently. The switch itself has been a great purchase for me. As for the game, of course it's downscaled, but playable for my eyes at least. But yeah, opinions man. It's all good.
@@FounderX9 personally id only buy one to game while having a poo or if im in bed but even then id rather play on pc or ps4
both games on a single cartridge?, i wish capcom did that
And in their case it's about getting two GAMECUBE ERA games on the cartridge. Fucking capcom man, they're pumping out amazing titles in recent times but they've never really been the best with ports...
@@Msf1011 yeah, all their game collections follow the same formula, 1 game in cartridge and you have to download the rest, the megaman legacy collection 1 + 2 on steam doesn't take more than 7gb of space, it should be on the same game card, it kills the purpose of getting a physical copy
kinda makes you question why they couldnt run RE7 on switch without streaming
You so right
Well then, I've owned the original Metro 2033 on PC for years but only ever put in 30 mins because I got distracted with other games and university. Seeing this conversion run so well on the Switch has pretty much sold it to me. Going to pick this one up asap. Great analysis and thank you 4A games for a great conversion of the games!
This makes no sense - why not just play the pc version you already have? This is not a good mobile game due to the quality of the screen, and the atmosphere is not one for playing with people around. To each their own, I guess.
@@xBINARYGODx It's more to do with how I like to play. I tend to play competitive multiplayer FPS's on my PC but if it's a single player game, especially one that I missed, then I like to be able to sit away from my desk with the Switch/Vita.
I've found personally I'm more likely to play games i've missed on handhelds rather than PC/PS4/XB1 so the Switch and Vita have done a good job there. For me at least, Metro on the Switch will probably be the way i'll properly play the game, much like Wolfenstein 2 was. Now that I think about it, I may even actually finish Skyrim if I pick it up on Switch (yes it's a crime i've still not finished Skyrim!)
But I do understand where you're coming from.
@@mrratchet Agreed the switch is a great platform. I competed the original version on pc upon release years ago and is an amazing game and would reccomend paying on pc in a dark room for true immersion.
@@mrratchet have you looked into steam in home streaming/remote play? if you just want to play away from your PC that could help
@@xBINARYGODx just bc it doesnt make sense to you doesnt make it the case for others
Now please someone PORT Tomp Raider and Arkham Batman SERIES for NINTENDO SWITCH.
yess. I want the arkham series
SAME HERE I AGREE
I would rather have Metal Gear Solid V and the HD collection.
Metal gear solid V 😔
@@Alexander5R Me too. MGS V would be amazing
Absolutely fantastic video, covers everything I wanted to know... bonus points for mentioning 5.1 audio as no one else I have watched bothers to for any game.
Yep. I'm buying Metro a third time. I'm so happy we're getting a Switch port of this quality. So satisfying.
720p with some upscaling tech so it looks a bit cleaner than normal 720p, stable 30 fps. Here you go
Thanks.
Honestly they should put that in the description or somewhere similar. For people like me, a 40 second video with comparison footage and framerate + resolution numbers in the corner would be everything I need.
Longer videos tend to waste my time, especially if it's a port.
720p with a a bunch of excuses to make it sound better than it really is because this is a Switch video and just simply stating resolution numbers would make it sound worse. Honestly for these guys who actually were a huge reason people started focusing on resolution numbers in the first place to now all the sudden be like, "resolution doesn't matter" now that they have a thing for Switch is just madness to me.
@@Jaqen-HGhar but resolution really doesn't matter anymore. A 1440p checkerboard image render looks just as good if not better than native 4k; it's not just about raw pixel quality anymore, it's about anti-aliasing techniques. Plus, resolutions are no now dynamically changing to increase performance stability.
@@kreempa.i.8349 Let them hate on the $200 tablet that can run PC and console games.
Never played metro, guess it's time to give it a shot
You should play it on PC. Or on a console.
@@Vicmor0 yeah I have it on the xbox one, but I have to fight my sons to get time on the xbox, playing on the switch is easier for me. Plus I can take with me to my office and play on my intervals.
@@Vicmor0 I will enjoy it more on my switch than I would on my PC. Sorry not sorry
@@jacobjordan8340 only way I'll get around to finally beating it. I've bought these games twice already 2033 and lastlight for the xbox 360 and then redux for my xbox one and some how have a digital copy for PC which I didn't buy. Dont remember how i obtained it.
@@jacobjordan8340 To each his own I suppose...
Kudos to 4A! What a fantastic port! I wish more developers would port the games to the Switch themselves like 4A. It allows them to maintain the integrity of the game they created as opposed to when the 3rd party studios do it. With 3rd party ports, often times all they care about is getting the game to run at a respectable performance profile while often sacrificing key elements of the games presentation which leads to it losing what makes a game special.
Great job as always John! Keep up the good work
Ambro i mean, wasn’t doom and wolfenstein port developed by a third party company, and they did better than most other companies? I think it depends on the company, Bluepoint is also known for very good ports. There’s also bad ports from developers themselves that are extremely bad, because they simply do not have the resources or time to work on a port while they are working on newer games. Third party studios on the other hand are able to fully focus on ports and put all their resources onto it. So tbh, you can’t really tell which version is better because it just depends on the port.
@@kohkisparten117 That's true. Doom was considered an impossible port and owning it myself, I can say that I find the port well done. Not to mention PB have improved it with patches over time.
I think it also depends on the individual and what his/her tolerance level is for acceptable. For example, I do not find the most recent Wolfenstein ports acceptable. dropping to 360p and having poor performance really doesn't cut it for me and those were handled by Panic Button as well. Others do find it a good port. To each his own.
Another example. I find the Port of TW3 acceptable (and miraculous) but others do no and that was done by Saber Interactive.
But then there are disasters like ARK who did it in house (I believe, someone correct me if I'm wrong ) and well... we all know how that went.
I guess I'm just happy that, for a series as beloved as Metro, which relies so heavily on its story telling and atmosphere, that 4A took the time to make sure it maintained the visual presentation which is so important to them and the franchise.
Yeah I don't really know what you mean. It sounds like you're painting a picture that the majority of third party ports sacrifice the integrity of the games presentation which I don't think is true at all. The reason most companies hire third parties to port their games is because most of the time a third party is going to be able to do a better job than a dev that has no experience porting a game to a mobile device.
This actually holds up better than I thought.
This game rocks on an OLED switch if anyone is reading this.
I did ;)
Never played these games. But I’m definitely in for the Switch ports
lol
It may not have occurred to some people bashing the switch, but the 720p resolution in handheld mode is due to the switch's screen being 720p. A higher resolution for the switch's screen would have drained the battery more quickly and would have given diminishing returns, taking into account screen size and a normal viewing distance. 720p looks amazing enough anyway, idk why people are complaining so much about it. At a normal viewing distance there probably isn't much difference between that and 1080p anyway, viewing distance matters as well.
The big question: Does this game have G Y R O aiming?
Hm
Good point!
was my first question too... I'm not buying without. I would rather sacrify something else (like 5.1 sound which I don't have anyway ;-) )
It does. I got a physical copy yesterday and I can confirm that Gyro aiming is in the game. I just walked in my local store and it was there on the shelf. I got it instantly.
Both games on the cartridge with gyro aiming.
@@zuljaras Does gyro feel good in this game? Can you compare it to DOOM 2016 and Wolfenstein games? If you have played those.
@@Mikkis85 I do not own those 2 games but there are settings for it, like sensitivity etc.
Seems like a very responsive and surprisingly stable version of the game. I'll probably check it out.
nice, I expected very little from these games on Switch
this is rough lol, it doesnt look very good
@@kyles8524 it looks way better than last gen
Kyle S. If you came from a PC then yea what did u expect?
@@kyles8524 you must not have Switch... to fail to realize the joy of playing these games on a plane or in the toilet, or in class room, it look sufficient and i think it'll make a lot of players happy..
You got what you expected
One console is so small you can fit it in your coat pocket and has a built in screen so you can play it anywhere.... The other is the size of a VHS player from the 90s, and has no screen and needs an external device (TV) or you can't play it. The fact that the former is anywhere in the same conversation as as the latter, shows the impressiveness of the former.
Additionally, one console runs silent whilst the other, in many instances, sounds like a 747 preparing for takeoff.
So between the dark environs and portable killing it, this is the ultimate "play in bed" game
But not with the Switch, with the Nvidia Shield btw ;D
@@ChrisFreibier wut?
If only Nintendo would release a Switch with OLED or even a decent LED screen. I love my Switch, but the black levels and contrast are so terrible.
Mmmmm, one of my favorite words. Environs
@@SparkyClark I'd take a well calibrated, high quality IPS or any LED over OLED any day for a game console. They're not gonna be able to do pure blacks, but high quality LED screens are gonna be a huge step up, while not risking burn in. I mean, look at what Samsung achieved with a TN panel with their QLED tech.
First I thought "Oh, DF is doing a retro review" little did I know - a new great switch port!
Stellar work to be honest, of my favorite series of all time. I need to wait for sale as I've bought this 4 times already though. Like how like the Witcher 3 port, they've retained the atmosphere inducing lighting.
well the performance part is the most interesting even though there is not much to talk about.
Congratulations to 4A Games.
I agree that the darkness of the game might not fit perfectly to portable device, but still responsiveness and performance are a highlight here.
This is pretty incredible. This just shows how a Switch that's roughly 30% more powerful could push fantastic graphics with the right optimization.
30% more powerful of what?
@@FrattaTV Graphical output, compute power and memory bandwidth.
@@YourPalHDee comparing to..?
@@ingwarostapenko6874 what are you asking? I didn't say compared to anything. I think we can all argue that the Switch's current graphical output isn't great, many games are blurry and have a lot of aliasing.
@@YourPalHDee Lol do you understand how % work? When you say "a Switch that's roughly 30% powerful" it doesn't mean anything. 30% of what?
I heard Rich laugh when you said "volfenschtein" lol
This is amazing! Well done to the Metro team, and everything is on one cart??! Just know I’m getting this day 1 for sure!
There’s something about this on switch that makes me nostalgic of playing any kind of dark toned(color and topic) shooter on the psp.
Thanks for the review! More and more I find your tech reviews to be more important since so many games miss the mark for general playability. Graphics is one thing, but framerate has been more and more important as I get older.
Thank you Digital Foundry for testing all these Switch Games and Ports! It's amazing to see how this games work on Switch!! :)
This is so awesome. I didnt really want to finish playing this game on PC for some reason but to be able to take this with me and being so portable. It's just perfect.
I already own 2033 and Last Light on steam, and will probably buy Redux for my lite because of this review. Thank you.
pity they cant redux the shitty joysticks soldered into your console.
7:50 guess what’s coming out on October 8, 2021. I just so happen to be looking into playing these games and stumbled on this video; then he discusses how this game would be way better on an OLED screen and I just so happened to pre-order the OLED Switch just last week. Can’t wait.
I pre-ordered the physical version the minute it became available. I love this series. Can't wait to see what 4A does next.
Now all we need on Switch are good ports of Deus Ex and Dishonored.
With the director's cut of human revolution on Wii U, it absolutely has to be on switch.
@@camelChase20 Then what are they waiting for??
Kind of love that these two games manage to give such a solid frame framerate without too many drops in resolutions in both modes. Still to get both of these redux versions on the switch is a fantastic feat, well only so many times people can keep saying that I guess because it just takes a developer that utilises the hardware well and making sacrifices where needed.
Well I'm sold. First Switch purchase of 2020.
John says the switch uses a mediocre lcd screen, but it uses an ips panel which is the best lcd tech at the moment. I've always thought the switch screen was very good especially compared to other handheld and it compares well to smartphone ips screens.
It's 720 p in 2020...
@@worldstarkeys8328
Not really an issue, it's still a nice display..
The screen is great for everything except dark scenes, IPS panels don't have good enough contrast to really show what the devs intended. If they could use a VA panel, it would improve things considerably in this case, but you'll get worse viewing angles.
It's a generic LCD. It's doesn't have great colour balance, the quality control in terms of calibration is all over the place with the system, and the has grey black.
There are better forms of LCD. It is not using "the best LCD tech"
LED backlit, full array, mini LED, nano cell, Qled, qauntom dot. All Are better forms of LCD tech
IPS is just your basic LCD at this point
What the hell? This x1 chip is on steroids or what? Next they wil port exodus maybe. I wasnt expecting this games runing on switch.
@@michaelgallagher9534 loll ik its underclocked a lot
@@twoplexx9151 i wonder what it would be like on a modded switch overclocked
@@uknighted213 I think you missed the DF video on the modded unlocked tegraX1 playing Witcher 3.. The difference won't be big for this game either... They have already optimized it almost fully...
@@nayyarrashid4661 i saw that episode, im just curious to see how it would compare
@@uknighted213 probably a lot to sacrifice to get a minimal performance/visual boost... It would be interesting to watch DF do the analysis but in their Witcher video they said that you have to sacrifice a lot with minimal improvements... I will be more interested in a Darksiders Genesis comparison video... Don't know if they have done that...
Big fan of these games. I'm happy to hear that the port of such high quality.
“Low level API” nothing makes my software hardware more then getting as close to bear metal as possible.
Watch out for those metal bears. 😝
I love my Switch ! 2 full games in one cartridge... great port !!!!!
Looks awesome. I just wish devs would implement gyro controls for every Switch shooter.
Aww, does this not have gyro?
@@GreenShark4 It has it.
@@hypno18s It does? Wish John would've given his thoughts on it.
yes RE4, SR3... i dont know where you heard this has it though...
Something to note is that Metro Last Light was supposed to be a Wii U launch window game and was in the Wii U announcement. So this isn't the first time it was planned to be on a Nintendo console but the first time it actually made it on one
I want to see them port Exodus to the Switch! That would be truly amazing!
Looks great all things considered! I wish they'd also port the original non-remastered versions. I'd imagine those would run at 60fps on the Switch.
They did it unbelievable they did it on the freaking Switch. I'm impressed what the Switch can handle with some Compromised
It's a fucking ps3 and 360 game how is that unbelievable
This is not as impressive as Doom or the Witcher 3.
@@charizardoreo are these Portable? No
Switch can run any game that PS4/XB1 can. As long as the game engine is modern, Switch can run it.
@@3dgelord187 I don't think the Switch can run RDR2 at all. I'm sure it can run most of the games though.
Like always, This video has been my deciding factor. I am definitely buying this switch port!
Pretty amazing. The Switch continues to impress.
That little console is so impressive
Great vid! Love seeing developers flex their scalable engines on the switch.
I arguably like that opening part with the walk through the dark tunnel. Whereas the other consoles gave that "fire aspect effect reflecting on their faces" just the flashlight ONLY glinting on their faces gives the place a very dreading place that is utterly wrapped in darkness except that flashlight shining on someone. Even with some takeaways its arguably just as effective.
man this is again one of those super impressive ports... day one purchase for me
No other could put this together like DF does. Great review mate!
Glad I never got around to playing metro. Cant wait to grab this on switch
These games deserved quality in house ports. Good job.
Wow they did it again good job 4A 👍🏾
Damn... a really impressive visual presentation AND a good sound quality ? Nice.
On sale right now for 4,99. Lowest price ever.
Got it for less than 4 $ thanks to Nintendo points yesterday
I just finished 2033 Redux last night. Played from the Library all the way until the end on the Switch's handheld mode. There are times when the game became too dark even with the flashlight on so I had to rely on the nightvision goggles, specifically in some portions of D6.
"look at the surface here, and you can see what I'm talking about" *Images look identical lol.
Seems like an amazing port from a technical pov.
Remember when Metro Last Light was announced for the Wii U?
This game, is one of those unique gems that wen released it didn't receive the valor it deserves, one of the best shooter of the last generation, the story is amazing, the graphics are top-notch, soundtrack, gameplay, everything on this game is amazing, and the immersion is absolutely incredible. This is really a dream coming true, when Switch was released I was hoping that one day I could play Metro on a portable, now I will, waiting for Square Enix to make my life even better and make a port of Tomb Raider to the Switch.
At this point, not porting your game to the switch just makes you look like the biggest jerks, *cough* Rockstar and Activision *cough*.
Wait the next direct for some western rockstat stuff... just saying
Konami too... I want the Metal Gear Solid HD Collection and MGSV on Switch so badly.
GTA v can't even properly use pc hardware. Optimization is just not their forte.
Activision, yeah. But they already said that mobile (aka phones) are their money maker, so if they choose that route (and I believe they have done that), we might never, ever see an Activision-developed/ported Switch title this gen.
As for Rockstar, no, that isn't the case. See, they already ported GTA even for the GBA and previous Nintendo consoles - only to be met with mediocre sales, probably because Nintendo and its audience were always known as the ones who didn't appreciate too violent games. Those companies aren't buying this rumor that "the Nintendo of this gen is embracing all the audiences, even supporting Mature-rated titles." and because of that, after three years(ish) of the Nintendo Switch, those companies won't dare make their Switch ports. Instead they keep looking at each other to see who's gonna give it a shot first. If it's successful, others may follow. Until then, this uncertainty among them continues and no ports are revealed.
ISN'T THAT RIGHT, GEARBOX?!
there was LA Noire
Great breakdown.
I have to say that the opinion about the walking segments is subjective.
It is one of the things i really enjoy about the metro (and other games) as it forces you to pause and slow down and engage with the story and world you are immersed in.
Now imagine how good this game would look like now on an OLED switch seeing as the darkness was a problem before
Just played through on the OLED. it's a very immersive experience and gets dark as hell lol
Hard to believe something that brought pcs and consoles to their knees only a few years ago is now contained in one 16gb cartridge and can be played anywhere...in the dark at least and preferably with headphones on!
@@XZ-III don't presume just cause people like Nintendo they don't understand tech or pc gaming..
The quality and ambition of the Switch ports we've been seeing kinda put the shitty ports of past generations into a new light. It seems like porting a game to low-end hardware and doing a good job of it can done, provided the bar has been set high enough that developers know they won't be able to get away with a cheap, half-assed port.
It’s not like that. At least not all the time. Some developers have a genuinely hard time adapting old tech to the Switch hybrid specs. You must remember that the games have to perform well in both docked and portable modes. I’d imagine that is a very hard challenge
these are last gen remastered games..
Digital Foundry is the only channel I genuinely get excited for when I get a new video notification
This proof that EA is Lazy.
Switch isn't weak
Exactly
It is pretty weak but it works
Switch is very weak. It's less than half the power of a base Xbox One. This is just great programming.
Why do companies keep opting for portable mode and just abandoning docked? The whole point of the console was to switch between the two.
Switch lite
Just marketing, docked mode is worthless in Titels like this. It plays like shit in docked mode because of underpowered hardware.
Wow, Nintendo & Nvidia's NVN Api is so powerful...so good for the little console
Wow coming out this month. Can't wait to try the Metro series
You all seem to really enjoy saying "Volfenshtain" for Wolfenstein, but in that case you should really say "Meet-rroh" (Russian pronunciation, accent on the last syllable) for Metro...
or, you know, just pronounce it in english normally like everyone does. that could work.
Much of their staff is German or in Germany.
Got the Metro series on PC, love them all! I will be buying this redux for my switch for sure.
Much prefer the linear style to the metro games... felt exodus open world was ok but not as engaging or focused.
I love how many items the physical release has
What is the release date I cant wait to play it on Switch
28 of feb
The biggest problem is the RIDICULOUS lack of a brightness setting
I would love to get this game but I have like 30 other Switch games to beat first. I can't add another unbeaten game to my collection for now. I'll probably get it some the holidays.
I probably would get Darksiders Genesis coming today and then there is Samurai Showdown and then animal crossing... Might probably get these after finishing or at least playing through those... FPS aren't my thing but these games have been done fantastically considering they came on ps4 and xbox one... About 360 version no doubt it would look better...
Awesome review,
Would be great to start discussing benefits of overclocking every review ie, full docked gfx on handheld. Battery may suck but for plane trips etc not a big problem