Still in shock and awe that RDR1 hit a Nintendo platform before (officially) being available on PC. Can't say I have much faith in Rockstar to do anything that wows me like RDR2 did anytime soon.
@@cabecorra91I waited ages for it to come out on PC, so I wouldn't have to resort to emulation. RDR via Xenia on PC is the way to go, 4K and 60fps is possible if your PC is good enough. It's a shame though, I was waiting for Rockstar to remaster it so I wouldn't have to resort to emulation but oh well, here we are...
if you were to tell me Red Dead Redemption would be released on a Nintendo console 13 years later with a £40 price tag i would have laughed, what a weird time we’re living in
LA Noire on Switch needed a download with the card, so it might be around the same unless LA Noire needed more power. But there is no download required on the display box but we're gonna have to see.
I suspect that the Switch is what this port was about from the beginning. The fact that the game runs almost locked to 30fps at 1080p on Switch tells me that the porting team were targeting it specifically. I think the PS4 port was an incidental thing that came about after the Switch version was mostly completed and they had a code base they could move to other platforms, but didn't have the time/budget to add anything fancy to it beyond FSR 2.
@@Bee_Mavrickto bad you're insulting the community by buying it. I'll be waiting till it goes on sale and I havnt ever played the game! Im more inclined to spend $30 cnd that $65 cnd
Naw you are getting played. It’s a 360 game. And ps3 game that should be like 20 bucks at best (it’s a port) when you buy this stuff you get the last of us 2 remake for ps5 for possibly 70 dollars……
Due to pricing changes and issues with the Canadian dollar, this port actually ended up retailing for more than when it originally released. Very cool...
Meanwhile you can but it on Xbox for $30 CAD (plus $10 CAD for Unread Nightmare), with enhancements if run on a One X or Series X. The pricing for these ports is indeed ridiculous.
@ScrapKing73 Although I'm pretty sure Undead Nightmare on 360 is permanently bugged because of the patches which spawned the softlock headless undead glitch
It appears that some players have found that the light around camp fires can be broken at times. As in the campfire doesn't cast light or shadow. Hopefully this can be fixed in a patch.
Btw, even in this video there is a footage of Undead Nightmare, where Switch does not emit any light from burning bushes and whatever. So, now I'm 100% convinced that they completely removed dynamic lights from everywhere and instead are relying on prebaked lighting and sun position for shadows. That's really a bummer, sadly DF missed that.
There are a fail amount of bugs in this game, and I think they're in the patched original version 360/PS3 as well...I doubt Rockstar gonna patch in further than 1.0.1
@@jimhultqvist2539missing lights is purely a porting problem and it's Double Elevens responsibility. But would they care and fix that by reimplementing the whole lighting system specifically for Switch version? I really doubt.
@@-pressxtostart- if others get 60 fps, Switch users will feel left out. Thats why its 30 fps. No one should feel superior and it should sell adequetly on all consoles. Rockstar : "RDR 2 doesn't have 60fps, why should RDR have it ?!! 😂"
@@WH250398 That’s why resolution and graphics tweaks exist. In an age where modern games all have Performance and Quality modes, I’m sure they could’ve done that for this new 2023 release even on older hardware. I mean look at the modded Switch almost hitting 60 FPS. With a little more effort put into this port, it could’ve hit 60 FPS
I'm playing it on PS5 (bought it out of curiosity) and while it's a really solid remaster/port, it's one you where wanna wait for a sale. At like £10-20 it's a good buy. Fantastic game though. Still holds up well today.
@@jaspelino1963But Rockstar takes forever to discount games. GTA5 took like 5 years before it got a somewhat decent sale. They aren’t as bad as Nintendo, but they aren’t like other Publishers that discount relatively soon. Rockstar has so much money, they don’t need to discount to get more sales.
@jjproductionscorp well the pro vs reg ps4 doesn't really matter if it still runs the same as switch and 360 at 30fps but no multiplayer, none of the visual enhancements seem that much better to me if it's a compromise of multiplayer.
Gave the Switch version a go and found myself putting in quite a few hours. Much better than the PS3 version I’d attempted to play the past few years. Not bad.
Same I loved that game. It's a one of a kind experience. It sucks that the sequel took a more generic open world approach and kind of fell on its face.
Rockstar and Blizzard will never come back because of "diversity studies" in USA. They literally hire people based on their sexuality and ethnicity, not skills and passion, which is extremely racist... But who am I to say that right I'm just one white male. Anyway, that's why we get passionless garbage on all fronts, in movies like new star wars, new Lotr series, Witcher on netflix, 90% of gaming industry, absolutely everything coming out of blizzard, Ubisoft etc
@@TylerMBuller12 Catalyst is great. It gets so much hate for no reason. There is nothing generic about Catalyst really. I love Mirror's Edge but Catalyst is exactly what people asked for, and then didn't like it. Such a special game though, I do prefer Catalyst over the first ME.
I always wondered why a developer would ever decide to use Anisotropic turned low/off.. I pretty much never found much if at all a performance penalty for using it, even on computers years ago.
I wished DF would do a piece on the usage of anisotropic filtering on consoles, especially on Nintendo consoles. I don't think there has ever been a single first -party Nintendo game with AF on, and I don't even think there has ever been third-party games on Nintendo consoles with AF on, in spite of the hardware having support for AF since the GameCube and their official dev documentation explicitly mentioning it. I dug into the whole the whole thing a while back and if my memory serves me right, anisotropic filtering implementations were all patent-encumbered up until 2015 or something and Nintendo not wanting to pay for it never used it. But I could also be 100% wrong. Considering how anisotropic filtering dramatically improves the look of terrain textures on games like BOTW and TOTK, it always rubbed me the wrong way that Nintendo chose to ignore it.
I'm one of those who was disappointed RDR didn't get a proper PS5/SX remaster, but at the same time, I think the Switch version has a reason to exist. Switch somehow never got a GTA5 port, and having RDR on the go is nice. Nintendo gamers don't get mainline Rockstar games often, so even if its years late, it's cool to see it exist.
@@lightdarksoul2097 It probably would've been a great idea to do a GTA4 port, but I think it's a bit late for that now when people are looking to GTA6. Also, modern Rockstar doesn't seem interested in their back catalog for whatever reason. I wish they were, but GTA5 is just too profitable & they seem content at leaving it at that.
True but hey you never know here's hoping. I doubt it would take any attention away from gta 6 since they could get the porting studio for it that did rdr@@corey2232
Often? Besides the crappy defective edition, Nintendo hasn't gotten a Rockstar game since GTA Chinatown Wars on the DS and GTA Advance on the GBA (which is the worst GTA game ever). This is the first proper game they get with no strings attached.
While it isn’t the most revolutionary port, if you’d told me at Switch’s release that we would get RDR for it one day, my mind would have been completely blown tbh.
I bought RDR used for xbox360 and played it on Series X and it just looks pretty great. I think auto-HDR can be enabled (not sure though, it's been a while) and it basically runs at a locked 4K. It does NOT get the Series X FPS boost so it's still locked at 30fps. Since the game was developed with 30 fps in mind, it's obviously still very playable. I do like that the the orignal physical release comes with an actual printed folded map of the open world to check out, which can actually be relevant for some of the missions and it's just cool to overhear a conversation where someones says "it's just north of X" and then you put down the controller tp check on the physical map and it's just... cool and immersive.
@@sandman8920 There are a couple of older games that look very next-gen-ish on series X. Like everyone hated CoD Infinite Warfare because of the multiplayer but the campaign was actually pretty cool and on Series X it's a locked 60fps4k and basically looks pretty spectacular. No remaster needed. If you can get a physical copy second hand for like 10 bucks it's entirely worth the ride.
@@sandman8920 its 4k on one x too everybody keep forgetting that one x play some 360 games in 4k some that I play that are 4k would be Splinter Cell double agent 360 and Oringal xbox also in 4k Ninja Gaiden 2,DOA 2 ultimate,DOA3 is also 4k on One X,Max Payne etc no fps boost or auto HDR tho thats only on the Series consoles
I’m very happy with a Switch game running at the native 720p in portable and 1080p docked and runs well, better than on the original consoles. So many Switch games run at around 540p and still go much lower in frame rate so this is very good. Should look good on the Switch OLED in portable mode.
@@arcanocz I mean....not really 11/12 years separate the release of those consoles from the Switch (and they were using tech that was adapted/developed years before the consoles themselves released) so it really is not some indictment of the power of the Switch that it can run them better -it SHOULD be able to run them better. This is of course assuming you're being serious and not facetious.
Buying this at full price is just enforcing Rockstar’s bare minimum efforts. Supporting this is letting them know that consumers will eat up just about anything. Goodluck with Rockstar producing quality anytime soon.
Buying this at full price is just someone saying they want to play this game on the console they have. I promise you there are topics that are actually morally serious, buying a video game is not one of them.
I’ve had this on Xbox since 2018 when it became backwards compatible on Xbox and i got it from the store with un dead nightmare for about £10 from Xbox store and it runs at 4K on Xbox series X and red dead 2 is the only console version with true 4K this is a total ripoff at £40 lol
@@ot9523 Yeah, it doesn't make sense for you to buy a game you already own and that you don't want to play again. What's fascinating is that people other than you exist and what people do for entertainment really isn't your business. If someone buys this game then ipso facto it has value for them, there's no moral high ground here.
Are the ports bad? Nope. Is the remasters for the GTA trilogy bad? Yes. Should it be $50? Probably not but that is up to the costumer if they want to pay that amount. Worrying about what others pay use their money for is just weird.
I just got the physical version a few days ago. I didn't buy the digital version. I own the Greatest Hits version for the PS3 and the 360 version that Rockstar rereleased for the Xbox One years ago. I would say the Switch version is my favorite. The PS3 port is pretty bad. It runs at like 20-25 fps and looks bad. While the 360 version had 2x MSAA and ran at 720p native the PS3 port has no AA at all and it runs in 640p. The PS4 and Switch ports are the best way to play this game now. The Switch port looks better than the 360 version. I wouldn't even bother with the PS3 port unless you were really desperate to play it. But the thing that makes the Switch port so great is the handheld portability. You can play RDR anywhere. I don't regret spending $50 on the Switch port. You get RDR Undead Nightmare and all the GOTY edition content on the cart. No download codes. Two full AAA games for $25 each. Hundreds of hours worth of content. A game from the golden years of Rockstar. The pre GTAO years. It's an amazing games. It looks pretty good on the little Switch screen in 720p as well. I have bought other ports of games that were ported to Switch from other more powerful systems and it's kind of hit and miss. The Crash collection on Switch looks good Spyro looks good as well. But Destroy all Humans didn't look that great. But RDR looks really good.
Except you fail to mention the massive cut content of multiplayer. So no, its not 2 AAA games for 25 bucks each. Its 1 AAA game with cut content and 1 AAA game's DLC with cut content. Sure the performance is good and its nice to be able to play them anywhere but to omit such important negatives is crazy. Don't just glaze over it because you may love the series. Call out it's faults because you love the series.
It's been awesome to have this portably, but it's a bit of a shock to the system as well. My last two playthroughs of this game we're on Xbox One when it was added to backwards compatibility, and then again on the Xbox One X when they had an update that took advantage of that hardware. So I'm used to this game incrementally looking better and better, and now back here on switch even in portable mode it's a little fuzzy and I feel like the draw distance might even be slightly worse than it was on 360. It's still a phenomenal looking game the art direction is great. About between that and then two playthroughs of Red Dead 2 which in my opinion is still the most gorgeous game I've ever played, this one is showing its age more than I remember. Of all those playthroughs I've had of this game I also don't remember the horses being so damn janky Either way I'm still excited to go through it again, this was my favorite game ever made... Until they made a sequel lol
Benefit of Switch version for PC players is that it's very easy to emulate and run at 60 fps, the ps3 and 360 emulators are cool but can be jank with this game. Still want a native port.
@@ChristianHedman Good point. Although, back then it was coding nightmare for the PS3, and GTA 4's port was a disaster at the time from what I've heard. Now the PS4 is X86 based like most PCs out there. So I think it's more likely that the PS4 version will be ported to PC.
fun fact 360 version will always stay the best cause you can play this version at native 4k30fps looking and playing best on xbox one x and series x while no other console can
The Switch has more sophisticated hardware overall, so it's not really that surprising it runs better. 360 had a 3 core @ 3.2GHz CPU vs Switch's 4 core @ 2GHz CPU, but also has 8 x the RAM as well.
the ram doesn't really do much besides of texture res. and loading times, also don't forget that when the switch is undocked, gpu clock speed drops down more than 50% and memory clock goes from 1600 down to 1331, yet the game still runs mostly smooth in native 720p. and yeah it's a more modern architecture but it's dated too, coming from 2015. overall i think it is a pretty darn neat port.
Def getting this on switch. Enjoyed the gameplay and story of this one more than the second. In the second every enemy used the same guns the entire game which made no sense and the story become nonsense after like the second heist. The multiplayer on the first was also better so it’s a bummer it is not included
I remember playing the game on both 360 and ps3 back in the day and being baffled by how badly the ps3 version looked. At the time I didn’t realize how hard devs had it when trying to port to that system. And it really shows with this game. The 360 version was far superior.
@@leftyfourguns After 2009, most devs were already adapted to the PS3 so ports started looking much more similar. GTA 5 and Max Payne 3 for example are 1:1 the same.
@@Loundsify no get your fanboy brain out of here across the board the 360 was a better version of gta5 not by mch but had far better consistency with frame rates. you ps fanboys never change.
Same. I have zero interest in this release. I can already play the game on my Xbox through backwards compatibility. I can't fathom why Rockstar didn't release it on PC. I'm pretty sure they like money, no? Lol
I have been playing on Switch and for me it is well worth the price. There is a lot of content here and even though it released 13 years ago it is still a high quality game. Rockstar games put a lot of love into this game and i never could have imagined i would play it on a handheld back when i was playing on the PS3. It still holds up and has fantastic voice acting.
I haven't played it docked yet, but handheld on the OLED is impressive. I've ignored the high price point and not complained like others (I get it's a ridiculously high price, but the cost of everything is massively higher than it used to be and remember, Rockstar are not forcing you to buy the game people), because I love RDR and have wanted to play it portably since I've had my Switch. It's ran perfectly well for me so far and I'm just so surprised it runs on the Switch. I'm wondering then, that given this runs fine on Switch, maybe the original version of GTA 5 can be ported over. I would love to be able to play that portably on the Switch.
So happy about this port, wish more games had this treatment such as Fallout or Dark Souls 2. I honestly dont get all the hate, its not like the Switch could have run the game if it had a remaster and its clearly currently running the game at its maximum capabilities. I agree the princing isnt the best but there are many previous titles such as this that had the same pricing problem and nobody said a thing. Examples for this could be Dark Souls, Skyrim, Dying Light, The Witcher 3, Diablo 3 and many others, all of them released at full price. I kinda understand the hate it gets on behalf of Playstation and PC owners but for us Switch owners makes no sense. One last thing, I am pretty sure the pricing problem is because Nintendo is releasing the physical version, we have many previous examples of this.
With how little effort they seemed to have put into this port, I'm surprised they got the game to run at 1080p on the Switch at all, much less with a mostly stable 30fps.
To be fair, the ps4 isn't being pushed and the switch is at its limits. PS4 could easily run the game at 60fps at switch settings. they didn't even try, even the ps5 doesn't run it at 60fps
I played RDR on PS3 and over RGB Scart cables on a Crt. This Game looked so good. The dark areas and the sunlight gives RDR a really realistic touch on a Crt. I think these Consoles Ps3 and Xbox 360 were created with Crt in mind and not HDMI LED TVs. The most Games from this Generation looks and runs better on older TVs connect with RGB scart cable.
The great part about this port is the from the emulation prospective with the switch version. I can now play rdr on my steam deck at 30 to 45 fps through yuzu and a 60 fps fps patch. It's also a good alternative to xenia on pc if you don't have a great gpu. I would of rather had a remake especially considering half of rdrs map was already remade in rdr 2 even the basic layout for mexico but at least something good came out of this. Rdr ages like a fine wine any way.
I think rockstar did a good job with the Switch port, and i would agree that the price for a 13 year old game sounds kinda a cash grab, and the game is a port with improvements and not a remaster or a remake, but then again, it better than having defective editions like GTA Trilogy, hopefully they can fix those too!
True, people can do what they want with their money, but the fact people will buy this bare bones port of an old game at a premium price pretty much sends a message to developers/game companies that we will settle for far far less and are happy to pay big bucks for it. So, dont complain when games charge you high prices for so little content (specially if ALL games are sold digital only moving forward)
It's a very disappointing port on Playstation. So lazy...and Rockstar and 2K rake soo much money from GTA online. They could have spent some of that cash to do more work on this port. Lazy and greedy
Its still a 'great' game and offers a LOT of hours worth of gaming that won Game of the Year - now bundled with its Undead Nightmare (although removing its 'dead' MP mode) so that Nintendo and Sony gamers can actually play this classic on their favourite hardware for the first time in its 'Original' condition, boosted resolutions keeping the 'experience' intact isn't a 'bad' thing. There are 'Many' gamers whose 'first' console maybe a Switch, PS4 or even PS5 and never played RDR or 'could' play it on their hardware. If you don't think paying £40/$50 for what was considered the Game of the Year 13yrs ago to play on 'Hardware' you currently game on, whether you 'played' it before - its still going to be technically 'better' than the PS3/360 version just on resolution and 'stability' of frame rate alone - RDR2 was '30fps' too so its 'consistent' or not, then don't buy at launch - wait until its at a 'price' you deem worthy. I'm sure it will drop in price if people are reluctant to pay that... I do agree though, that compared to Quake II, RDR's price does seem somewhat steep but then that price is what a 'AA' game tends to cost these days and is less than the £/$70 that 'new' games are costing that may 'look' graphically superior but maybe don't offer as much depth or value in terms of hours worth, maybe have to wait months to be 'consistently' playable with updates/patches, wait months, years even to get the 'full' game as its drip fed as a 'service' game, be riddled with micro-tansactions, season passes etc etc... To me £40 sounds great for an Amazing game with so much value in it compared to £70 for 'modern' games that often are more 'style over substance', over in 8hrs and have many issues at launch - but as I said it does seem 'steep' for a basic port with what seems 'little' effort to 'enhance' the game beyond a resolution bump and more stable 30fps game-play - I'd argue its keeping its 'integrity' and artistic design intact for 'preserving' the Original experience and selling to those who cannot play it on their preferred Hardware as it 'originally' was - like Xbox gamers can...
This is impressive. I had this on PS4 and best it but I wanted to play this again and in handheld mode at times + I sold my PS4 game. This was one of my favorite games of that era and having a great time playing it again especially that I can take it on the go when i take my son to soccer practice with 1.5 hrs to kill. Hard to get in game time as a dad, but this is huge for me.
@@istealpopularnamesforlikes3340 I want to play it again because it's been years! But I am one of those that feels insulted by the price tag. Looks really fun still though :) I'm gonna just wait until I can buy a preowned cartridge and not give any money to rockstar. And I'll buy a second steam key for baldurs gate 3 just to support an actually worthy game dev :)
I feel like this was much more justified at the price point set for the Switch. We're used to having to sell our organs to buy old games anyway. I'm sort of kidding.
If Red Dead Redemption can be ported to the Switch, than GTA 5 could probably be ported too. If Rockstar doesn't do that, then they're missing out on a huge opportunity.
Yeah I just got a series x about a month ago. I had forgotten that I bought this on 360 digitally and was surprised that it was upscaled, but saddened it was locked at 30 fps.
I don’t understand the point of comparing the Switch to the PS4. The whole point is to play on the go. Comparing graphics just seems silly, doesn’t it? One system is consuming 145W perpetually stuck to the wall, the other maxes out at 8W and runs on battery so you can take it anywhere. I would sincerely HOPE the PS4 would outperform. What’s the actual point? P.S. unless the point is to highlight how the PS4 version could clearly use and handle more of an upgrade.
It's a shame that people hate on the port because the game's unfairly priced at $50 and no PC version, which is an issue I completely sympathize with and am also very disappointed at. But the Switch port (and I mean just the Switch version) is actually a really decent port and one that's only worth being excited about. Even better, if you have a hacked V2 Switch, you can unlock RDR's FPS all the way up to 60 with a certain tool which you fellas can look it up yourself. I'm currently playing the game handheld at 45FPS with a slight overclock and let me tell you, I am having an absolute blast. Which begs the question, if a hacked Switch can unlock the game at a higher framerate than 30 with an easy to install plugin made by some random guy or gal on the internet, why couldn't Rockstar/Double Eleven and their millions of dollar budget do it natively? The only reason I can think of them doing this is to keep "feature parity" across all console versions. In other words, Rockstar doesn't want to invest the extra penny to roll-out extra ports for other modern platforms (aside from the Switch and PS4) is because internally they KNOW Xbox and PC owners can either just run the game through Series X/S backwards compatibility feature or emulate the PS3/360 version on PC. They also probably didn't wanna deal with the headache of hearing players whine about "Why only Playstation? Where 60FPS on Xbox version?", so they kept the recent releases 30. I'm sure these were great decisions because now they've gone and got even worser complaints from players. Not to discredit Double Eleven's effort on the ports or anything, but this is still one of the plainest efforts put into porting a game. Though this is probably a decision born from the greed of Rockstar Games and their parent company T2 in the first place. So I blame these two for that.
I hate the bias against Xbox on this channel. If you play RDR on an Series X or an Xbox One X you get full 4K and a stable 30fps. By far, the best way to play this game is still on Xbox consoles.
Other than the PS4/PS5 version, the Switch version is an actual W for Rockstar. Having a similar result to PS4 on an outdated mobile hardware that in raw power is even weaker than 7th gen consoles is absolutely great. If you want to play RDR on the go, the 50 bucks are invested better in this port than the PS4/PS5 port. The price is still to high on both platforms. The game shouldn't cost more than 30 bucks. However, modern gaming is overpriced in general, so I recommend to wait until RDR1 is on sale for 30-35 or less. The pS4/5 Version is a pure disappointment compared to what the 2 Sony generations are capable of. Reachig nearly the same quality on the Swich on the other hand is a great achievement. For the fanboys: I neither own a Playstation nor a Switch. I just compare the result the ports deliver to the hardware power of the systems. It was the right decision not to bring the game to Xbox again. The backcompat experience of the 360 Version rendered in 4K on a One X or Series X is good enough. The improvement of the new, native version is too small to justify 50 bucks.
I would have happily paid 50$ if it was early PS4/Switch days but man 13 years, the hell took ya so long. They're lucky its literally my fav Rockstar game that still holds up today because I probably wouldn't accept that for most other older games (even ones i really enjoyed)
I actually prefer it's a straight up port than when they try to include every single visual effect in existance and do a port at 600p or something like that. I would say a locked 30 fps with 1080p resolution is fantastic. Making a port technically more complicated is not necessarily a better port.
This was obviously just a cash grab by Rockstar. But on switch that’s actually a decent port. 1080p 30 on a system you could never play it before. Maybe if it was $20 id say it was actually a good port for Switch. Introducing a masterpiece to a big group that could never play it before.
@@cynicaltruth7486realistic expectations of price still don't necessarily dictate that the value is equal to the price Nor does not wanting to pay nearly full price for a 13-year-old game imply that somebody is broke. If anything it's people being more fiscally responsible, the key to avoid being broke
@@adamdavis1737 ignore him lol, anyone who’s calling someone a brokie over the internets life is already bad enough. And im sure he’s definitely very wealthy. 😂
Imo xbox looks better than both and it has a lot to do that it runs at 1080p on ps4 but its not natural you can tell is emulated. Switch looks a little better then ps4 but it runs the game at 720p the natural resolution for it. I think the lighting and details are overall clearer on xbox as it runs in native 4k. But still you can tell it wasn’t a game that was supposed to run at 4k. Rockstar could’ve done a lot more to improve the quality of life like switching it to another engine
It could've been a lot worse dude, I know everyone hoped for a remaster or remake but at least this port is rock solid. The 50 dollar price point is egregious though, I think 30 would've been perfectly reasonable.
to me the thing is if the switch can run this game while the 360 barelly could devs should port as many ps360 games to switch as possible no need for much enhancement beside resolution they are just good games, and everyone would be thankful, new gamers with actual good games (ahem the last hope), nintendo same reason, and us veterans, happy to see more people enjoy classics
Im glad this exists. Yes, overpriced. That said, it runs well, its portable now (Steam Deck would be the only other way to do that realistically), the game was and still is a masterpiece, and it will be on sale eventually so other people can buy it. It existing is good.
Can you explain to me why "PS4 wins" because of FSR 2 when all of the FSR 2 comparisons had weird twitching textures in it where FXAA looked perfectly normal?
I bought this for my PS4 Pro. Tbh - I love it. My only gripe is the price. I was drunk and bought it at full price, which I do regret. I was planning on waiting for a sale, but was off my face and went "F*** it" and just bought it. I'd say if you're not on Xbox - wait until it goes on sale. If you can get it for like 50% off - you'll be happy. My guess is that it will go on sale for maybe Halloween, but defo Christmas. Despite the hatred, I'm actually loving that it's just the original unmolested material being reproduced at a solid 4k/30. No GTA Definitive Edition defilement, here. If you originally played on PS3 like I did, the PS4 (and also Switch from this video) release looks and feels like a remaster. Its almost the same difference as Shadow of the Colossus PS2 v PS3. Basically the same, but the Remaster just looks a lot cleaner and the slowdown has been eliminated.
@@coffinboy556 Any system that can play this video game is fair grounds for comparison. It's not a contest or a console war, but it is my money and I want to be sure my money is spent on a good version of the game. Or better yet, a version of the game that is better than its original version.
I was hoping you would cover the odd shimmering around the horse and character when riding on the Switch version. I never checked a PS5 video if it is also a problem in that version. Otherwise fantastic port! Still don’t like the price but still loving the game again.
Switch version doesn't have TAA whereas the PS4 version of the remaster does; what you're seeing is shader aliasing. TAA takes care of that, Switch ver. doesn't have it.
It isn’t a problem in games like Breath of the Wild or Witcher 3, I figured they’d have a way of fixing it for this game. Shouldn’t be to difficult. Did the PS3/360 version have this problem.
My thinking is since FSR 2 has more processing time(?) than FXAA, it was decided that it would simply use FXAA, especially as the aliasing would be a bit harder to make out on a small screen anyway when playing portably. It should be fully compatible theoretically otherwise.
FSR2 is more demanding than FXAA at same resolution PS4 is powerful enought to use it... While Switch probably did not have enough power to use FSR while running at native 1080p at same time.
Still in shock and awe that RDR1 hit a Nintendo platform before (officially) being available on PC. Can't say I have much faith in Rockstar to do anything that wows me like RDR2 did anytime soon.
* Dutch voice * “ HAVE SOME GOD DAMN FAITH!”
Considering how much they hated modders when gta 5 came out I wouldn’t expect them to release anymore pc ports anymore
Switch emulation on PC is really good tho
If they release to the switch, you already have the PC port too ;D
@@cabecorra91I waited ages for it to come out on PC, so I wouldn't have to resort to emulation. RDR via Xenia on PC is the way to go, 4K and 60fps is possible if your PC is good enough. It's a shame though, I was waiting for Rockstar to remaster it so I wouldn't have to resort to emulation but oh well, here we are...
if you were to tell me Red Dead Redemption would be released on a Nintendo console 13 years later with a £40 price tag i would have laughed, what a weird time we’re living in
Half the game for 50 bucks
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 that's a bit dramatic. 90% of people remember this game for its story mode and DLC, not for its multiplayer
@@MultiYippee loll, no. The multiplayer carried the game for years
I would have been more shocked to hear that it would come out for ps4 years into the ps5 lifespan.
@@MultiYippee it had multiplayer??
Hopefully the physical version actually has the entire game on the card, rather than being a code in a box or requiring some kind of download.
If it’s 11GB then I’m pretty sure the card can handle it
Depends if they are lazy about it or not
LA Noire on Switch needed a download with the card, so it might be around the same unless LA Noire needed more power. But there is no download required on the display box but we're gonna have to see.
@@b1elal If publishers were willing to pay for it, they could even put games >= 32GB and
@@b1elal hopefully they spring for a 16GB card and not just 8GB
This is a great addition to the switch library. I wish sleeping dogs would also made it over to the switch as well too.
Sleeping Dogs is great too.
Dont forget dead island 1 too
Sleeping dogs was great
I bought sleeping dogs 2 times 1 physical and 1 digital copy.Wouldnt mind getting it a third time.Its that good!
So many 7th Gen games should be on Switch. I need Dark Souls 2 on Switch
Still a shame this masterpiece isn't available on pc (at least not officially)
luckily the switch is really easy to emulate lmao
Emulating the Switch is probably the way to go, but I can't help to believe it will be released in a few months time
It's fully playable on Xenia already anyway. Yuzu is just a new option now.
Imagine emulating it using YuZu. Lmao.
It is? I haven't kept up Xenia for a while, has it really come that far?
I suspect that the Switch is what this port was about from the beginning. The fact that the game runs almost locked to 30fps at 1080p on Switch tells me that the porting team were targeting it specifically. I think the PS4 port was an incidental thing that came about after the Switch version was mostly completed and they had a code base they could move to other platforms, but didn't have the time/budget to add anything fancy to it beyond FSR 2.
Agreed. I mean it's freaking rdr, on the switch. 😊
Doh
@@Bee_Mavrickto bad you're insulting the community by buying it. I'll be waiting till it goes on sale and I havnt ever played the game! Im more inclined to spend $30 cnd that $65 cnd
@@sabagecabage7828omg stop making yourself some kind of victim lol
Naw you are getting played. It’s a 360 game. And ps3 game that should be like 20 bucks at best (it’s a port) when you buy this stuff you get the last of us 2 remake for ps5 for possibly 70 dollars……
13 years later... boy time does fly. I remember seeing videos of this game online before release and I could not wait.
Due to pricing changes and issues with the Canadian dollar, this port actually ended up retailing for more than when it originally released. Very cool...
Yep I"m on the same boat! Almost 70$ in quebec!
It's a dumb price in the UK (and probably every where to be honest) too, it's £40 which is about CA$70.@@Gwilherm
Meanwhile you can but it on Xbox for $30 CAD (plus $10 CAD for Unread Nightmare), with enhancements if run on a One X or Series X. The pricing for these ports is indeed ridiculous.
@ScrapKing73 Although I'm pretty sure Undead Nightmare on 360 is permanently bugged because of the patches which spawned the softlock headless undead glitch
It appears that some players have found that the light around camp fires can be broken at times. As in the campfire doesn't cast light or shadow. Hopefully this can be fixed in a patch.
At times? Never saw it being working there. Might be a bug indeed, bcs it surely can't be Metroid Prime Remastered lights problem, surely...
Literally unplayable
Btw, even in this video there is a footage of Undead Nightmare, where Switch does not emit any light from burning bushes and whatever. So, now I'm 100% convinced that they completely removed dynamic lights from everywhere and instead are relying on prebaked lighting and sun position for shadows. That's really a bummer, sadly DF missed that.
There are a fail amount of bugs in this game, and I think they're in the patched original version 360/PS3 as well...I doubt Rockstar gonna patch in further than 1.0.1
@@jimhultqvist2539missing lights is purely a porting problem and it's Double Elevens responsibility. But would they care and fix that by reimplementing the whole lighting system specifically for Switch version? I really doubt.
Lazy port for sure, rockstar could’ve at least added 60fps to nex gen consoles.
Theres no 60fps cuz of Switch incompetancy, they cant make Ps4 version better than Switch.
@@lil_per_vertIt can actually run at 60fps on a modded Switch, so it's possible, they were just too lazy to do it.
@@lil_per_vert
They could update it to run at 60fps on PS5
@@-pressxtostart- if others get 60 fps, Switch users will feel left out. Thats why its 30 fps. No one should feel superior and it should sell adequetly on all consoles.
Rockstar : "RDR 2 doesn't have 60fps, why should RDR have it ?!! 😂"
Obviously you have never heard Straus Ballsack talk before.
This should have been 60 fps on ps5 and series x.
Even PS4 could run this at 60fps!
Could’ve been 60 FPS even on Xbox One and PS4
@@kraenk12 Not too sure about that. Pro maybe with its gpu headroom, but the cpu always held things back.
Rockstar will sell the 60fps version to you in a year or so. Just like they did with GTA 5
@@WH250398 That’s why resolution and graphics tweaks exist. In an age where modern games all have Performance and Quality modes, I’m sure they could’ve done that for this new 2023 release even on older hardware. I mean look at the modded Switch almost hitting 60 FPS. With a little more effort put into this port, it could’ve hit 60 FPS
It really does look incredible on the Switch OLED in handheld mode. Especially the red and black menus and screen filters.
I look forward to picking this up on sale for £10 in a few years, definitely not paying anywhere near £40 for this
25 or 30€ would've been soo much behah
Available to emulate no reason to wait really.
I'm playing it on PS5 (bought it out of curiosity) and while it's a really solid remaster/port, it's one you where wanna wait for a sale. At like £10-20 it's a good buy.
Fantastic game though. Still holds up well today.
Used at a bargain bin, not to support these garbage companies.
@fungehucker2515 remaster/port? It's just a port, there was no remastering done here
Cool! Now we can just sit and wait until it goes on sale and drops to a reasonable price that it should have launched with.
i just sat around for 20 minutes, got a rom and emulate it at 4k60 at $0.
Nintendo? Probably about 10 years. Sony? Next month.
More correctly, Rockstar Nintendo don't set the prices on third party titles or decide when (and if) they go on sale. Up to Rockstar.
@@vollkerball1that’s BS. Third party games are discounted just as much and just as often on Switch as on PSN.
@@jaspelino1963But Rockstar takes forever to discount games. GTA5 took like 5 years before it got a somewhat decent sale. They aren’t as bad as Nintendo, but they aren’t like other Publishers that discount relatively soon. Rockstar has so much money, they don’t need to discount to get more sales.
I thought series x back compatibility was the best version is it not? Plus with multiplayer is a good bonus.
Gotta click bait
PS4 pro version is now.
They never said its the best version in the title.
@jjproductionscorp well the pro vs reg ps4 doesn't really matter if it still runs the same as switch and 360 at 30fps but no multiplayer, none of the visual enhancements seem that much better to me if it's a compromise of multiplayer.
Series X is the best version
they've could've achieved GTA V to Switch as well
Gave the Switch version a go and found myself putting in quite a few hours. Much better than the PS3 version I’d attempted to play the past few years. Not bad.
Hey, it's your 50 dollars
anythin is better than the ps3 version tho 😅
@@timytimeerased Yeah, sure.
I'm tempted. But having access to it on series S I'm not asking to pay 50 bucks. 19.99 for sure. Maybe even 29.99
homebrew bruh@@phant0mdummy
Would love to see a DF Retro on Mirror's Edge, i remember being stunned by the graphics and the cool "gimmick" of PhysX on my 9800gtx+
Same I loved that game. It's a one of a kind experience. It sucks that the sequel took a more generic open world approach and kind of fell on its face.
Rockstar and Blizzard will never come back because of "diversity studies" in USA. They literally hire people based on their sexuality and ethnicity, not skills and passion, which is extremely racist... But who am I to say that right I'm just one white male. Anyway, that's why we get passionless garbage on all fronts, in movies like new star wars, new Lotr series, Witcher on netflix, 90% of gaming industry, absolutely everything coming out of blizzard, Ubisoft etc
@@TylerMBuller12 Catalyst is great. It gets so much hate for no reason. There is nothing generic about Catalyst really. I love Mirror's Edge but Catalyst is exactly what people asked for, and then didn't like it. Such a special game though, I do prefer Catalyst over the first ME.
I always wondered why a developer would ever decide to use Anisotropic turned low/off.. I pretty much never found much if at all a performance penalty for using it, even on computers years ago.
I wished DF would do a piece on the usage of anisotropic filtering on consoles, especially on Nintendo consoles. I don't think there has ever been a single first -party Nintendo game with AF on, and I don't even think there has ever been third-party games on Nintendo consoles with AF on, in spite of the hardware having support for AF since the GameCube and their official dev documentation explicitly mentioning it. I dug into the whole the whole thing a while back and if my memory serves me right, anisotropic filtering implementations were all patent-encumbered up until 2015 or something and Nintendo not wanting to pay for it never used it. But I could also be 100% wrong. Considering how anisotropic filtering dramatically improves the look of terrain textures on games like BOTW and TOTK, it always rubbed me the wrong way that Nintendo chose to ignore it.
AF is heavy on memory bandwidth in which Switch is very lacking.
I'm one of those who was disappointed RDR didn't get a proper PS5/SX remaster, but at the same time, I think the Switch version has a reason to exist.
Switch somehow never got a GTA5 port, and having RDR on the go is nice. Nintendo gamers don't get mainline Rockstar games often, so even if its years late, it's cool to see it exist.
I'm hoping Switch gets gta 4 at least I never played the whole thing with dlc
@@lightdarksoul2097 It probably would've been a great idea to do a GTA4 port, but I think it's a bit late for that now when people are looking to GTA6.
Also, modern Rockstar doesn't seem interested in their back catalog for whatever reason. I wish they were, but GTA5 is just too profitable & they seem content at leaving it at that.
True but hey you never know here's hoping. I doubt it would take any attention away from gta 6 since they could get the porting studio for it that did rdr@@corey2232
Often? Besides the crappy defective edition, Nintendo hasn't gotten a Rockstar game since GTA Chinatown Wars on the DS and GTA Advance on the GBA (which is the worst GTA game ever).
This is the first proper game they get with no strings attached.
@Manic_Panic Pretty sure Switch got LA Noire too
While it isn’t the most revolutionary port, if you’d told me at Switch’s release that we would get RDR for it one day, my mind would have been completely blown tbh.
A faithful handheld version of a popular console game is always exciting.
Like what Super Mario 64 did for the DS and Ocarina of Time for the 3DS.
Why? It's a 15 years old game released in the 7th gen.
Plus the switch is obsolete tech it barely passes 7th gen console tech. This coulda been a launch title and still wouldn’t be impressed
I bought RDR used for xbox360 and played it on Series X and it just looks pretty great. I think auto-HDR can be enabled (not sure though, it's been a while) and it basically runs at a locked 4K. It does NOT get the Series X FPS boost so it's still locked at 30fps. Since the game was developed with 30 fps in mind, it's obviously still very playable.
I do like that the the orignal physical release comes with an actual printed folded map of the open world to check out, which can actually be relevant for some of the missions and it's just cool to overhear a conversation where someones says "it's just north of X" and then you put down the controller tp check on the physical map and it's just... cool and immersive.
Interesting. I haven’t played it yet but I have a one x.
@@sandman8920 There are a couple of older games that look very next-gen-ish on series X.
Like everyone hated CoD Infinite Warfare because of the multiplayer but the campaign was actually pretty cool and on Series X it's a locked 60fps4k and basically looks pretty spectacular. No remaster needed. If you can get a physical copy second hand for like 10 bucks it's entirely worth the ride.
@@sandman8920 its 4k on one x too everybody keep forgetting that one x play some 360 games in 4k some that I play that are 4k would be Splinter Cell double agent 360 and Oringal xbox also in 4k Ninja Gaiden 2,DOA 2 ultimate,DOA3 is also 4k on One X,Max Payne etc no fps boost or auto HDR tho thats only on the Series consoles
Nintendo switch got a RDR 1 port before PC. Why do Rockstar hate PC?
Understandable, have a nice day.
Thank you come again
I’m very happy with a Switch game running at the native 720p in portable and 1080p docked and runs well, better than on the original consoles. So many Switch games run at around 540p and still go much lower in frame rate so this is very good. Should look good on the Switch OLED in portable mode.
So glad a PS360 game runs at 1080p 30fps.... The bare minimum.
No TAA makes it unplayable.
Well yeah, it's a port of a PS3/360 game and therefore much less technically demanding, most Wii-U ports run at higher resolutions as well.
Stunning that the switch runs it better than the 2005-06 consoles, the Switch is a beast.
@@arcanocz I mean....not really 11/12 years separate the release of those consoles from the Switch (and they were using tech that was adapted/developed years before the consoles themselves released) so it really is not some indictment of the power of the Switch that it can run them better -it SHOULD be able to run them better. This is of course assuming you're being serious and not facetious.
Buying this at full price is just enforcing Rockstar’s bare minimum efforts. Supporting this is letting them know that consumers will eat up just about anything. Goodluck with Rockstar producing quality anytime soon.
Buying this at full price is just someone saying they want to play this game on the console they have. I promise you there are topics that are actually morally serious, buying a video game is not one of them.
What else are you going to play on an ancient POS nintendo console?
I’ve had this on Xbox since 2018 when it became backwards compatible on Xbox and i got it from the store with un dead nightmare for about £10 from Xbox store and it runs at 4K on Xbox series X and red dead 2 is the only console version with true 4K this is a total ripoff at £40 lol
@@ot9523 Yeah, it doesn't make sense for you to buy a game you already own and that you don't want to play again. What's fascinating is that people other than you exist and what people do for entertainment really isn't your business. If someone buys this game then ipso facto it has value for them, there's no moral high ground here.
Are the ports bad? Nope. Is the remasters for the GTA trilogy bad? Yes. Should it be $50? Probably not but that is up to the costumer if they want to pay that amount. Worrying about what others pay use their money for is just weird.
As greedy as the price is
I hope rockstar sees the demand in games on the switch and ports more games
I'm honestly shocked that they haven't bothered porting more of their back catalog to Switch, GTA V especially.
@@Dakobra_Fr i honestly thought we'd see GTAV after LA Noire
Like graphics from the Xbox360 version with the new content seems like a no brainer
Yeah that would be amazing
Even 13 years later, STILL a masterpiece.
If only they treated it as such
@@Jabba094 very true. I still have my original disc from the X360 to this very day and I play it like I bought it yesterday. And I play it in 1080p
@@KRGraphicsCGwhich is better rdr 1 or rdr2?
@@naimfebruary9913i played both and i prefer rdr1
Why shouldn't it be a masterpiece today if it was once considered one?
I just got the physical version a few days ago. I didn't buy the digital version. I own the Greatest Hits version for the PS3 and the 360 version that Rockstar rereleased for the Xbox One years ago. I would say the Switch version is my favorite. The PS3 port is pretty bad. It runs at like 20-25 fps and looks bad. While the 360 version had 2x MSAA and ran at 720p native the PS3 port has no AA at all and it runs in 640p. The PS4 and Switch ports are the best way to play this game now. The Switch port looks better than the 360 version. I wouldn't even bother with the PS3 port unless you were really desperate to play it. But the thing that makes the Switch port so great is the handheld portability. You can play RDR anywhere. I don't regret spending $50 on the Switch port. You get RDR Undead Nightmare and all the GOTY edition content on the cart. No download codes. Two full AAA games for $25 each. Hundreds of hours worth of content. A game from the golden years of Rockstar. The pre GTAO years. It's an amazing games. It looks pretty good on the little Switch screen in 720p as well. I have bought other ports of games that were ported to Switch from other more powerful systems and it's kind of hit and miss. The Crash collection on Switch looks good Spyro looks good as well. But Destroy all Humans didn't look that great. But RDR looks really good.
Except you fail to mention the massive cut content of multiplayer. So no, its not 2 AAA games for 25 bucks each. Its 1 AAA game with cut content and 1 AAA game's DLC with cut content. Sure the performance is good and its nice to be able to play them anywhere but to omit such important negatives is crazy. Don't just glaze over it because you may love the series. Call out it's faults because you love the series.
It's been awesome to have this portably, but it's a bit of a shock to the system as well. My last two playthroughs of this game we're on Xbox One when it was added to backwards compatibility, and then again on the Xbox One X when they had an update that took advantage of that hardware.
So I'm used to this game incrementally looking better and better, and now back here on switch even in portable mode it's a little fuzzy and I feel like the draw distance might even be slightly worse than it was on 360. It's still a phenomenal looking game the art direction is great.
About between that and then two playthroughs of Red Dead 2 which in my opinion is still the most gorgeous game I've ever played, this one is showing its age more than I remember.
Of all those playthroughs I've had of this game I also don't remember the horses being so damn janky
Either way I'm still excited to go through it again, this was my favorite game ever made... Until they made a sequel lol
Prequel* ;)
@@Alex-pk1iy whatever man. Subsequent title
@@adamdavis1737words have meanings tho
@@aegisfate117 yep they do and everyone knows what I meant here
there is no advantage of using an xbox. no gyro, no vr, no haptics, no magic triggers. no brains.
Benefit of Switch version for PC players is that it's very easy to emulate and run at 60 fps, the ps3 and 360 emulators are cool but can be jank with this game. Still want a native port.
This is Rockstar we're talking. It's coming next year. I mean that's what they did with GTA 5 and RDR2
@@Soup-man how so? This game was released thirteen years ago on console. RDR2 and GTA5 on PC was not thirteen years after console release.
@@ChristianHedman Good point. Although, back then it was coding nightmare for the PS3, and GTA 4's port was a disaster at the time from what I've heard. Now the PS4 is X86 based like most PCs out there. So I think it's more likely that the PS4 version will be ported to PC.
fun fact 360 version will always stay the best cause you can play this version at native 4k30fps looking and playing best on xbox one x and series x while no other console can
You can play it at 4K via BC on Xbox One X and Xbox Series X, as well as on PC via emulation.
Well, seems like the whole "PS3 is actually more powerful than the switch" thing some people claim is actually dead and buried now.
We all know that the Switch its more powerful than the 7th generations of consoles.
@@WERV2003 I've seen people trying to debate against it though
@@WERV2003 sadly there are quite a few people that swear that its the case
considering that both, xbox 360 and ps3 had a more powerful cpu than the switch, nintendo's little handheld is performing extremely well.
The switch is the stronger than the two. not by much but it is
The Switch has more sophisticated hardware overall, so it's not really that surprising it runs better.
360 had a 3 core @ 3.2GHz CPU vs Switch's 4 core @ 2GHz CPU, but also has 8 x the RAM as well.
@@corey2232 It's also a more modern system so it has more up to date tools and engine support.
the ram doesn't really do much besides of texture res. and loading times, also don't forget that when the switch is undocked, gpu clock speed drops down more than 50% and memory clock goes from 1600 down to 1331, yet the game still runs mostly smooth in native 720p.
and yeah it's a more modern architecture but it's dated too, coming from 2015.
overall i think it is a pretty darn neat port.
Was waiting for DF's take on the switch version specifically! Thanks for this
So much for the "Switch is weaker than 7th generation" nonsense.
Def getting this on switch. Enjoyed the gameplay and story of this one more than the second. In the second every enemy used the same guns the entire game which made no sense and the story become nonsense after like the second heist. The multiplayer on the first was also better so it’s a bummer it is not included
I remember playing the game on both 360 and ps3 back in the day and being baffled by how badly the ps3 version looked. At the time I didn’t realize how hard devs had it when trying to port to that system. And it really shows with this game. The 360 version was far superior.
This was the case with most multi-platform games of 7th gen
Most multi plat games of that gen are worse on the PS3. Devs really just didn't want to mess around with its "unique" architecture
@@leftyfourguns After 2009, most devs were already adapted to the PS3 so ports started looking much more similar. GTA 5 and Max Payne 3 for example are 1:1 the same.
But then GTA V the PS3 ran it better.
@@Loundsify no get your fanboy brain out of here across the board the 360 was a better version of gta5 not by mch but had far better consistency with frame rates. you ps fanboys never change.
Still disappointed in the lack of a pc port
just emulate on PC, not sure what a Steam version would add
Hint: you can play it on pc by emulation on switch lol not to mention Xenia
Same. I have zero interest in this release. I can already play the game on my Xbox through backwards compatibility.
I can't fathom why Rockstar didn't release it on PC. I'm pretty sure they like money, no? Lol
Just play it on yuzu
@@valhallaoutcast easier to legally buy it
Was looking forward to this analysis and am thrilled to see Tom doing it - my favorite DF analyst.
My least favourite.
@@Beaut_Beaubig k
I hope GTA IV gets "relaunched" one day....
I have been playing on Switch and for me it is well worth the price. There is a lot of content here and even though it released 13 years ago it is still a high quality game.
Rockstar games put a lot of love into this game and i never could have imagined i would play it on a handheld back when i was playing on the PS3. It still holds up and has fantastic voice acting.
I agree this game was made with tremendous passion.
Im getting this on Nintendo only if the complete game is on the cart (screw digital downloads) and when its around $20.
I haven't played it docked yet, but handheld on the OLED is impressive. I've ignored the high price point and not complained like others (I get it's a ridiculously high price, but the cost of everything is massively higher than it used to be and remember, Rockstar are not forcing you to buy the game people), because I love RDR and have wanted to play it portably since I've had my Switch. It's ran perfectly well for me so far and I'm just so surprised it runs on the Switch. I'm wondering then, that given this runs fine on Switch, maybe the original version of GTA 5 can be ported over. I would love to be able to play that portably on the Switch.
So happy about this port, wish more games had this treatment such as Fallout or Dark Souls 2.
I honestly dont get all the hate, its not like the Switch could have run the game if it had a remaster and its clearly currently running the game at its maximum capabilities.
I agree the princing isnt the best but there are many previous titles such as this that had the same pricing problem and nobody said a thing.
Examples for this could be Dark Souls, Skyrim, Dying Light, The Witcher 3, Diablo 3 and many others, all of them released at full price.
I kinda understand the hate it gets on behalf of Playstation and PC owners but for us Switch owners makes no sense.
One last thing, I am pretty sure the pricing problem is because Nintendo is releasing the physical version, we have many previous examples of this.
Rockstar is a joke for disrespecting Red Dead like this
Its just an overpriced port lol yall overreacting
I thought his mic being such low quality was a joke eluding to the switch's hardware
for the ones that dont know a homebrew switch can easily run the game at 60 fps
We all know it. He talks about it in the video.
@@regisk he said its not a full 60. I get full 60 on mine
overclocked
With how little effort they seemed to have put into this port, I'm surprised they got the game to run at 1080p on the Switch at all, much less with a mostly stable 30fps.
I want play on Steam deck 😩
Should be possible with Switch emulator being the easiest one.
@@parasolo89 its running below 30 most of time right now but its playable and specific optimizations may come
To be fair, the ps4 isn't being pushed and the switch is at its limits. PS4 could easily run the game at 60fps at switch settings. they didn't even try, even the ps5 doesn't run it at 60fps
I don't think thats the point
I suspect the Switch port is the real reason for this release. The PS4 port is just an afterthought, essentially a cash grab.
I played RDR on PS3 and over RGB Scart cables on a Crt. This Game looked so good. The dark areas and the sunlight gives RDR a really realistic touch on a Crt.
I think these Consoles Ps3 and Xbox 360 were created with Crt in mind and not HDMI LED TVs. The most Games from this Generation looks and runs better on older TVs connect with RGB scart cable.
The great part about this port is the from the emulation prospective with the switch version. I can now play rdr on my steam deck at 30 to 45 fps through yuzu and a 60 fps fps patch. It's also a good alternative to xenia on pc if you don't have a great gpu. I would of rather had a remake especially considering half of rdrs map was already remade in rdr 2 even the basic layout for mexico but at least something good came out of this. Rdr ages like a fine wine any way.
I think rockstar did a good job with the Switch port, and i would agree that the price for a 13 year old game sounds kinda a cash grab, and the game is a port with improvements and not a remaster or a remake, but then again, it better than having defective editions like GTA Trilogy, hopefully they can fix those too!
Recently bought the Xbox 360 version on disc for 10 euro
On my Series X it also runs on 4k 30fps
The best game i ever played coming to the best console i ever owned,
i will definitely buy!
I’ve been waiting for DF’s breakdown 😁
There's no reality in which this game should cost as much as it does.
i disagree, RDR1 is still more well rounded and complete than alot of AAA games today
@@ColorMeDoubleZ So what? It's over a decade old. There's no way it should cost the same as a new title.
True, people can do what they want with their money, but the fact people will buy this bare bones port of an old game at a premium price pretty much sends a message to developers/game companies that we will settle for far far less and are happy to pay big bucks for it.
So, dont complain when games charge you high prices for so little content (specially if ALL games are sold digital only moving forward)
If it drops down to about half price I might grab it since it'd be nice to have the physical version, I just wish it had gyro
Especially given rockstar games don't have the best shooting so gyro would help quite a bit
Proper gyro support is a great idea and would've really added a lot to the port
It's a very disappointing port on Playstation. So lazy...and Rockstar and 2K rake soo much money from GTA online. They could have spent some of that cash to do more work on this port. Lazy and greedy
Its still a 'great' game and offers a LOT of hours worth of gaming that won Game of the Year - now bundled with its Undead Nightmare (although removing its 'dead' MP mode) so that Nintendo and Sony gamers can actually play this classic on their favourite hardware for the first time in its 'Original' condition, boosted resolutions keeping the 'experience' intact isn't a 'bad' thing. There are 'Many' gamers whose 'first' console maybe a Switch, PS4 or even PS5 and never played RDR or 'could' play it on their hardware.
If you don't think paying £40/$50 for what was considered the Game of the Year 13yrs ago to play on 'Hardware' you currently game on, whether you 'played' it before - its still going to be technically 'better' than the PS3/360 version just on resolution and 'stability' of frame rate alone - RDR2 was '30fps' too so its 'consistent' or not, then don't buy at launch - wait until its at a 'price' you deem worthy. I'm sure it will drop in price if people are reluctant to pay that...
I do agree though, that compared to Quake II, RDR's price does seem somewhat steep but then that price is what a 'AA' game tends to cost these days and is less than the £/$70 that 'new' games are costing that may 'look' graphically superior but maybe don't offer as much depth or value in terms of hours worth, maybe have to wait months to be 'consistently' playable with updates/patches, wait months, years even to get the 'full' game as its drip fed as a 'service' game, be riddled with micro-tansactions, season passes etc etc...
To me £40 sounds great for an Amazing game with so much value in it compared to £70 for 'modern' games that often are more 'style over substance', over in 8hrs and have many issues at launch - but as I said it does seem 'steep' for a basic port with what seems 'little' effort to 'enhance' the game beyond a resolution bump and more stable 30fps game-play - I'd argue its keeping its 'integrity' and artistic design intact for 'preserving' the Original experience and selling to those who cannot play it on their preferred Hardware as it 'originally' was - like Xbox gamers can...
god damn i still havent played this game. really need to try it via xbox 360 emulation on my new pc. so many games to play though 😢
This is impressive. I had this on PS4 and best it but I wanted to play this again and in handheld mode at times + I sold my PS4 game. This was one of my favorite games of that era and having a great time playing it again especially that I can take it on the go when i take my son to soccer practice with 1.5 hrs to kill. Hard to get in game time as a dad, but this is huge for me.
The switch might be underpowered, but its still a damn cool system to play older re released and remastered titles.
Looks beautiful on switch 👌
@istealpopularnamesforlikes3340 my bad man 😂
@@istealpopularnamesforlikes3340 lmao.
Nah you fanboy
@@istealpopularnamesforlikes3340 I want to play it again because it's been years! But I am one of those that feels insulted by the price tag. Looks really fun still though :)
I'm gonna just wait until I can buy a preowned cartridge and not give any money to rockstar. And I'll buy a second steam key for baldurs gate 3 just to support an actually worthy game dev :)
Looks beautiful on Xbox playboi stop cappin dawg
I feel like this was much more justified at the price point set for the Switch. We're used to having to sell our organs to buy old games anyway.
I'm sort of kidding.
If Red Dead Redemption can be ported to the Switch, than GTA 5 could probably be ported too. If Rockstar doesn't do that, then they're missing out on a huge opportunity.
No
Don’t buy this crap
I’m still completely bummed that Microsoft never enabled FPS boost on this game
Yeah I just got a series x about a month ago. I had forgotten that I bought this on 360 digitally and was surprised that it was upscaled, but saddened it was locked at 30 fps.
doesnt 60fps create weird quirks in this game like its frame rate is tacked to some physics
@@milt88 not sure.
I don’t understand the point of comparing the Switch to the PS4. The whole point is to play on the go. Comparing graphics just seems silly, doesn’t it? One system is consuming 145W perpetually stuck to the wall, the other maxes out at 8W and runs on battery so you can take it anywhere. I would sincerely HOPE the PS4 would outperform. What’s the actual point?
P.S. unless the point is to highlight how the PS4 version could clearly use and handle more of an upgrade.
Because both are video game consoles which have a port of the same game. Is this an actual question?
Developers did amazing job. Magical I would say.
Original ps3 version was very demanding and they somehow managed to provide better fps on switch.
Agreed it felt like botw for the 360/ps3, as in way too much for its system at the time
Wow when I replay this I might just pick it up on Switch instead of PS4
Man, I'm hoping for a MAD MAX port after playing this on the Switch. It looks awesome handheld.
It's a shame that people hate on the port because the game's unfairly priced at $50 and no PC version, which is an issue I completely sympathize with and am also very disappointed at. But the Switch port (and I mean just the Switch version) is actually a really decent port and one that's only worth being excited about. Even better, if you have a hacked V2 Switch, you can unlock RDR's FPS all the way up to 60 with a certain tool which you fellas can look it up yourself. I'm currently playing the game handheld at 45FPS with a slight overclock and let me tell you, I am having an absolute blast. Which begs the question, if a hacked Switch can unlock the game at a higher framerate than 30 with an easy to install plugin made by some random guy or gal on the internet, why couldn't Rockstar/Double Eleven and their millions of dollar budget do it natively?
The only reason I can think of them doing this is to keep "feature parity" across all console versions. In other words, Rockstar doesn't want to invest the extra penny to roll-out extra ports for other modern platforms (aside from the Switch and PS4) is because internally they KNOW Xbox and PC owners can either just run the game through Series X/S backwards compatibility feature or emulate the PS3/360 version on PC. They also probably didn't wanna deal with the headache of hearing players whine about "Why only Playstation? Where 60FPS on Xbox version?", so they kept the recent releases 30. I'm sure these were great decisions because now they've gone and got even worser complaints from players.
Not to discredit Double Eleven's effort on the ports or anything, but this is still one of the plainest efforts put into porting a game. Though this is probably a decision born from the greed of Rockstar Games and their parent company T2 in the first place. So I blame these two for that.
I hate the bias against Xbox on this channel. If you play RDR on an Series X or an Xbox One X you get full 4K and a stable 30fps. By far, the best way to play this game is still on Xbox consoles.
How is it better than PS4 Pro at native 4K stable 30 fps with FSR 2 used as AA solution?
Other than the PS4/PS5 version, the Switch version is an actual W for Rockstar. Having a similar result to PS4 on an outdated mobile hardware that in raw power is even weaker than 7th gen consoles is absolutely great. If you want to play RDR on the go, the 50 bucks are invested better in this port than the PS4/PS5 port. The price is still to high on both platforms. The game shouldn't cost more than 30 bucks. However, modern gaming is overpriced in general, so I recommend to wait until RDR1 is on sale for 30-35 or less. The pS4/5 Version is a pure disappointment compared to what the 2 Sony generations are capable of. Reachig nearly the same quality on the Swich on the other hand is a great achievement.
For the fanboys: I neither own a Playstation nor a Switch. I just compare the result the ports deliver to the hardware power of the systems. It was the right decision not to bring the game to Xbox again. The backcompat experience of the 360 Version rendered in 4K on a One X or Series X is good enough. The improvement of the new, native version is too small to justify 50 bucks.
I would have happily paid 50$ if it was early PS4/Switch days but man 13 years, the hell took ya so long. They're lucky its literally my fav Rockstar game that still holds up today because I probably wouldn't accept that for most other older games (even ones i really enjoyed)
I happen to have an OLED switch which is modded. Is there anyone who's eager to share how to unlock FPS in that game?
I actually prefer it's a straight up port than when they try to include every single visual effect in existance and do a port at 600p or something like that.
I would say a locked 30 fps with 1080p resolution is fantastic. Making a port technically more complicated is not necessarily a better port.
I payed for the digital xbox 360 version in 2018 only 20€. Now playing it upscaled on the Series S.
Switch owners are used to overpaying for games.
This was obviously just a cash grab by Rockstar. But on switch that’s actually a decent port. 1080p 30 on a system you could never play it before. Maybe if it was $20 id say it was actually a good port for Switch. Introducing a masterpiece to a big group that could never play it before.
$39 is more realistic. You brokies
@@cynicaltruth7486realistic expectations of price still don't necessarily dictate that the value is equal to the price
Nor does not wanting to pay nearly full price for a 13-year-old game imply that somebody is broke. If anything it's people being more fiscally responsible, the key to avoid being broke
cash grab but also polished. People will scream cash grab about anythin dont they
@@adamdavis1737 ignore him lol, anyone who’s calling someone a brokie over the internets life is already bad enough. And im sure he’s definitely very wealthy. 😂
"Batman Collection", "MGS Collection", "RDR" all ported to Switch recently, overpriced and too late.
Welcome to 2008, Nintendo fans
I feel like the switch version shows how much headroom there is on the PS4 version for improvements
For sure. Ps4 shouldn’t have any trouble doing 1080p60 or at the very least 900p60. But they lazier it up.
This guy is the best on DF, a long with their leader. I just like how they talk better, it's more clean and to the point.
Yeah, I will wait for a massive sale on this. They're asking 50 bucks for this?!
Good. I will get it when it is on sale.
Thanks, great analysis and I believe the best version of the worst (by any means) port of RDR
Which is? At the moment the PS4 is the better version.
Imo xbox looks better than both and it has a lot to do that it runs at 1080p on ps4 but its not natural you can tell is emulated. Switch looks a little better then ps4 but it runs the game at 720p the natural resolution for it.
I think the lighting and details are overall clearer on xbox as it runs in native 4k. But still you can tell it wasn’t a game that was supposed to run at 4k. Rockstar could’ve done a lot more to improve the quality of life like switching it to another engine
GTA Trilogy: Outsourced to the lowest bidder.
Rockstar: "We aren't doing that again."
RDR: Outsourced to the lowest bidder.
Where did you get that information from?
It could've been a lot worse dude, I know everyone hoped for a remaster or remake but at least this port is rock solid.
The 50 dollar price point is egregious though, I think 30 would've been perfectly reasonable.
@@Kniffel101 A smelly, dark place that he can't see without a mirror.
Bro what are you talking about? the GTA trilogy on Switch was an awful port. This one it's actually playable with stable 30fps
to me the thing is
if the switch can run this game while the 360 barelly could
devs should port as many ps360 games to switch as possible
no need for much enhancement beside resolution
they are just good games, and everyone would be thankful, new gamers with actual good games (ahem the last hope), nintendo same reason, and us veterans, happy to see more people enjoy classics
That's what I thought the moment people confirmed RDR1 runs stable. Hell, playing classics like Saints Row 2 or Fallout 3 would be bonkers.
Im glad this exists.
Yes, overpriced. That said, it runs well, its portable now (Steam Deck would be the only other way to do that realistically), the game was and still is a masterpiece, and it will be on sale eventually so other people can buy it.
It existing is good.
Can you explain to me why "PS4 wins" because of FSR 2 when all of the FSR 2 comparisons had weird twitching textures in it where FXAA looked perfectly normal?
on Switch emulator is even better, like a ps4 pro version at 4k and 60fps!
I bought this for my PS4 Pro. Tbh - I love it. My only gripe is the price. I was drunk and bought it at full price, which I do regret. I was planning on waiting for a sale, but was off my face and went "F*** it" and just bought it.
I'd say if you're not on Xbox - wait until it goes on sale. If you can get it for like 50% off - you'll be happy. My guess is that it will go on sale for maybe Halloween, but defo Christmas.
Despite the hatred, I'm actually loving that it's just the original unmolested material being reproduced at a solid 4k/30. No GTA Definitive Edition defilement, here.
If you originally played on PS3 like I did, the PS4 (and also Switch from this video) release looks and feels like a remaster.
Its almost the same difference as Shadow of the Colossus PS2 v PS3. Basically the same, but the Remaster just looks a lot cleaner and the slowdown has been eliminated.
Why is a console from 2017 being compared to a console from 2005..?
Because the video game in this video is a port from that 2005 console
@@livinlikeeli6785 yes but it was also released on the ps4 and ps5 which is far more comparable to what it originally released on
@@coffinboy556 Any system that can play this video game is fair grounds for comparison. It's not a contest or a console war, but it is my money and I want to be sure my money is spent on a good version of the game. Or better yet, a version of the game that is better than its original version.
What? The switch is near identical with 360/PS3 in terms of hardware
$50 dollar port of a 13 year old game? Shame!
I was hoping you would cover the odd shimmering around the horse and character when riding on the Switch version. I never checked a PS5 video if it is also a problem in that version. Otherwise fantastic port! Still don’t like the price but still loving the game again.
It's because of the AA method it uses on switch compared to the PS4 pro version
Switch version doesn't have TAA whereas the PS4 version of the remaster does; what you're seeing is shader aliasing. TAA takes care of that, Switch ver. doesn't have it.
It isn’t a problem in games like Breath of the Wild or Witcher 3, I figured they’d have a way of fixing it for this game. Shouldn’t be to difficult. Did the PS3/360 version have this problem.
Is the switch somehow incompatible with FSR2? TOTK released with FSR1 and now this with fxaa
Switch is nvidia.
My thinking is since FSR 2 has more processing time(?) than FXAA, it was decided that it would simply use FXAA, especially as the aliasing would be a bit harder to make out on a small screen anyway when playing portably. It should be fully compatible theoretically otherwise.
FSR2 is more demanding than FXAA at same resolution
PS4 is powerful enought to use it... While Switch probably did not have enough power to use FSR while running at native 1080p at same time.