Why Are Classic Pokémon Games Not On Switch?
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- Опубликовано: 16 фев 2024
- Where in the world are the retro Pokemon games? It's been so long since NSO launched on the Switch and we still haven't managed to see even Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow on the platform. Now that the 3DS and Wii U eShops are shut down, there's no way we can buy these legally anymore.
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@@payne3133 Why
@@JacobCruise BD is a lot of fun, just started Legends Arceus and im enjoying that a lot too. But my fav would probably be Soul Silver
HGSS ez. But nearly every game from gen 1-5 are good so it's hard to rank #2-5. But HGSS is 100% #1 for me.
Crystal
short answer: nintendo sucks
Lol
Nintendo only owns 1/3 of Pokemon. I’m sure Nintendo wants the old games on their system but The Pokemon Company doesn’t.
I wonder if TPCI investor reports might have more info 🤔
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It’s game freak’s decision. Can’t blame daddy nintendo on this one regardless of how much they suck
so that they can sell you the eventual remakes for full price 70$
yes
With half as much content and subpar graphics (not including DLC)
They are on the switch, u need the 3.99 live to play the old school Pokémon game. I don’t even own a switch yet and haven’t barely played any Pokémon and I learned this already in a few days of research
@@jokerpilled2535and even more bugs but not the type
If at least they remade those games… as a kid I missed in particular Gen 2. Ended up buying a second hand DS just to play Soulsilver (even if that’s already a remake). Thanks for nothing, Nintendo
Because GameFreak don't want people playing 25 year old games and realizing they have more fun with them than they do with the latest titles on Switch.
Seems more likely that they have no reason to release them. You got the Game Boy games so you could transfer easily. Until you stop being able to there is no reason to put them on Switch
Lol this is true.
@@ltdzingerbecause Pokemons the only game with that capability 🙄 nintendo fan boys will always play the new stuff cuz its new, they will suck off whatever nintendo puts out and not care about the classics
Well if they would've made pokemon scarlet and violet less buggy and not rush it, or even release their pokemon classic collection on the switch, they wouldn't have this problem.
@@mrbubbles6468and you think anyone who played the old games still have there cartridges? :´)
I'm so happy I still have all my old Pokemon games and orginal hardware. But it is terrible there aren't easy ways for the fans who don't, to play them. New fans are missing out on not only great games but also pieces of Pokemon history.
just lol at you claiming that people dont have a way to play them when pretty much everyone play them on emulators on their phone
@@Gen3Hater but not everyone is that smart, there are still people that don't understand what even an emulator is or just don't want to emulate it. And why on a phone? Without buttons it just feels wrong af. A BT controller for this screen makes no sense either xD
@ilovegarradors the problem is they will die sooner or later. First the batteries of the first three generations and then the rest even faster than a disc rot of a GameCube disc could be happening (and that's really often, especially with NTSC-U games)
@@adrenaliner91
Not only on their phone, on the pc as well, no need to be smart, just open the emulator and load the game
@@Gen3Hater haha you overestimate most people. Those who just can turn their machine on and maybe write a word document and write an e-mail still don't know how to install a program, let alone load a rom or find one.
The 3DS versions of Gen 1&2 had the savestates and rewind disabled so that could absolutely do it the save way on the switch.
Gamefreak knows gen 3 alone is better than anything they've churned out in a decade
God I just played through frlg and emerald and you’re right
I fell out of love with modern Pokemon almost exactly a decade ago with x/y and oras. Well they were the harbinger of the end and gen 7 is really where I stopped. Didn’t finish ultra moon, it was literally STILL in my charizard 3ds when I picked it up to mod it two days ago
Haven’t bough 8 or 9 and I’m very happy with that decision
Greed is truly something else
Nintendo deaerves another Wii U era to make them humble again and not so money hungry. Too much success is bad for the company culture.
So painful to go on the nintendo store and look at a $120 bundle for scarlet/violet like bruh im not gonna buy both lmao
If it was greed wouldn't they just re-release a bunch of Pokémon
@@keithflippers4429 like he said remaking the whole story and stuff would bite into their modern game profits, but yeh they should
To be fair, if they hadn't built up such bad will with the new games then the "Awesome classic releases might take away from modern sales." idea wouldn't be a worry.
Also, I personally really love the idea of keeping every Pokémon I care about and grow attached to. If they don't allow me to transfer up a Shiny Rattata I find and I have to just delete it for a new file then it's a No Purchase from me.
Dude, it’s not a worry anyway? Just why release a port for next to nothing when you can revamp the game and sell it for full price.
There isn’t as bad a reputation as you think.
@@mrbubbles6468 revamping would probably take more effort. It's very likely we're getting gen 5 remakes and so on so fourth leaving gen 2 out of the picture. The older gameboy games will likely return once they shut bank down.
I think the idea of "classic games take away sales from modern games" is probably also a thing Nintendo believes in, which is why they use the NSO releases as filler.
Pokémon games still sell extremely well, like the drop in quality hasn’t really effected them at all. Sw/Sh and S/V are both in the top 10 selling switch games of the consoles lifespan, also Lets Go, BD/SP, and Legends are all in the top 15.
@@mrbubbles6468 🤓
I’m glad you made this video, we were talking about this during your livestream chat and it really puts into perspective Nintendo’s current meta and how the OG Pokémon fans should move forward instead of hoping Nintendo gives us what we want. As long as they don’t start copyrighting emulated games, there shouldn’t be a big issue. We just need to make it more easily accessible and convenient to play classic games.
yes!
You should move foward. Stop asking for remakes of your childhood. It’s literally because of OG fans wanting nothing but that Gen 5 undersold and was hated which directly led to every issues you have now.
And despite that the only isdue people bring up is BDSP, which was, again, something you asked for.
We could do with realising what we are asking for has brought nothing good
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Because if you could catch certain legendaries in them they wouldn't sell you DLC that's only purpose is making them available.
That makes 0 sense, the legendarys are available in basically every single switch game.
@@alucard8433 via dlc.... which is his point...
@@codeybeckwith-rogers6130 BDSP don't even have DLC and you can get every legendary up to get 4 in those games.
I hate all the pokemon games on switch, this time will be remembered as the "Dark age of Pokemon"
Well, I don’t know if it’s it THAT bad
@@JacobCruise remember, if says "Dark age" is Bad
@@JacobCruise High quantity doesn't necessarily mean high quality.
legends arceus was really good tho
@@twaffelz personally I don't liked 😥
In fairness, BDSP was likely not meant to be a thing. They were pretty slap-dashed together because more time was going to be needed for Legends Arceus, but it does still run back to the point that the remakes were meant to be a holiday release to make sure they could get money from that big rush of sales.
That said I don't actually think retro games rereleased on Switch would even hurt modern sales. The Virtual Console releases of Gen 1 and 2 sold relatively well for what they were but nowhere near the sales of the actual 3DS mainline titles.
I *would* like RBY and GSC on NSO though, specifically because it's been shown you can connect them to Stadium on NSO through unofficial means and it would be great to have that connectivity again.
yes.
I wouldn't even buy the current generation, the last one was Sword and I feel even that was better than that thing now. I don't like digital games but I would buy the older Pokémon games without a doubt. So, it wouldn't even not hurt the sales it would generate new sales. The current gen already hurts itself imo.
They could have slapped together a 3 game "collection" with 3 versions inside: Red/Gold/Ruby, Blue/Silver/Sapphire, Yellow/Crystal/Emerald released it physical for 60 bucks each and they would have tremendously outsold bdsp for a fraction of the work while bringing something "new" to the fans as we still haven't had a port of the gba tittles.
@cloudwalker9572 No 20 dollars each with a 60-dollar bundle containing all 3 collections with Pokemon home compatibility
@@trashboat5388 nah you are not greedy enough. I would love it but let's be honest it's TPC
I mean, DPPT EShop release that's sold for like 5 million copies and sold for 15-20 bucks each, or two brand new games that's sold for 30 million copies in total for 60 bucks each
It's just too simple to answer this question
Look up VC releases of RBGY and GSC if you think that I'm underestimating things
DPPT was already playable on the 3DS, so tbf, was kinda a stupid decision to release it on the ESHop
though if you look at BDSP instead, and how much they sold despite being bad remakes, we can only assume how it would sell if they made it good games >.>
@@hypario DPPT was never released on the eShop lmao
teacher: what is the definition of greed?
student: nintendo.
or sony
5:46 WOOOO i feel represented
Also, the 3DS pokemon ports don't have rewind or save states, and that fixes the issue with exploitation.
Your brought up some really good points, this is some underrated content, keep it up!
Thanks!
yo where is that goldenrod city border from?
official Nintendo trailer for Pokémon gold silver crystal 3DS port
I feel like at the very least they could add gen 1 and maybe gen 2 games. It could be a way to reinvigorate interest in the series and provide a simple way for new generations to experience the games.
Plus, people could trade and battle without having to buy a link cable.
Make them compatible with the emulator in the stadium games too. And left players transfer their parties in.
They did. It was Lets Go. It worked just fine at doing that as well.
Fact is games take time to make
@@mrbubbles6468 remakes shouldn’t exist solely as a way to play the game on a newer console. They need a purpose.
Besides, they wouldn’t be making anything. It would probably take like two seconds to port Pokémon red and blue on NSO
I think it would be very simple to make it work by disabling rewind and only allowing you to save manually
And I'm fine with that. Rewind, while handy for farming/grinding and getting out of impossible situations, is fairly pointless if you save before progressing, after a tough fight or after getting a coveted item. I save lots- and often, so I don't ever see the need to use that kind of feature.
I never thought of that... Makes a whole lot of sense 😢
One thing is that even tho the pokemon ip is shared by the 3 companies, nintendo is a big share holder of both gamefreak and creatures inc, so if they really wanted they could add them to nso at any time
It may be also that they want to have working Pokemon trading and multiplayer battles, but they have issues getting it work within NSO.
Well, time to emulate!
Steam deck with Emudeck runs games better than the official hardware anyways
It’s obviously so they can sell us them in a “classic Pokemon” bundle or something.
oh,but I thought classic fans were ''not the target audience'' like just decide already! 🤦♀
The optimist in me hopes that they’re waiting to announce them for the Switch 2. The realist in me knows they haven’t and they won’t because money from new, rushed, soulless remakes is what makes more money.
I mean, the fans asked for those ‘souless’ remakes. And the only example of that is BDSP and we are only saying they lack soul due to bugs. Not because they actually lack soul.
Good video and interesing points but what about the Casino ? During the 4th generation a topic around game addiction in video games appeared in the European Union, it affected Pokémon in the way that while Diamond/Pearl had an operational casino, Platinium did not and HeartGold/SoulSilver got the Voltorb Flip game (at least in Europe).
After this no more functional Casino in Pokémon games anymore... Maybe it has an impact as why we did not see these games (during the release on 3DS Red/Blue/Yellow/Gold/Silver and Cristal got a Pegi number higher than usual).
They will be available on the switch successor
I also hate how classic game fans are dismissed as ''old'' 😤
Does anyone know the Name of the theme in the beginning ?
I mean, transferring Pokémon from older games to Pokémon Home isn’t impossible. We could transfer Pokémon from the Gen 1/2 games to Pokémon Bank back in the day.
You still can. Which is likely why the old games have not come to NSO yet.
@@mrbubbles6468 They just shut down 3DS online, So unless you already had a 3ds with Pokemon bank downloaded you can no longer do that without hacking the 3ds and downloading it off a program that is illegal.
@@alucard8433 man, you are PAYING for pokemon home, and Nintendo made Pokemon Bank free before the eshop shutdown. why the fuck would be illegal to use a paid service? there is no way of using pokemon home if you dont pay the suscription.
@@PANCHOTRON5000 I never said anything about Home do you not know how to read?
@@alucard8433 Read the original comment, "I mean, transferring Pokémon from older games to Pokémon Home isn’t impossible." using pokemon bank is not illegal, nintendo is still supporting transfers from bank to GO.
Long time between releases? Like November 2022 to sometime in 2025?
I just started playing the fan games and other than keeping some bizarre choices from the original games, I am having a blast with them.
I believe they are saving it for the 30th anniversary. That would be the best way to give us a master collection of most, if not all of the hand held games that currently are not accessible in the Switch. And it would give them time to plan for the compatibility of the master collection of the old games with Pokémon Home and other potential Pokémon projects they might be working on for the Switch 2.
It this point I’d be more excited for ports of the old games more so than the new games or remakes themselves. I do wonder how much work adding a trading system (preferably Gen 6’s system) and Pokémon Home compatibility would be.
wish they would bring them to switch if they did something like Super Mario 3D All-Stars
with pokemon old games i would buy it
Great conversation here. It really worries me that they've begun signaling to users that Transporter and Bank are invetiably going to be discontinued applications. I fear sooner than later. They are only thing keeping us connected to the Nintendo DS era (including Virutal Console), and by greater extension, the GBA+Gamecube era via Pal Park and other methods. It's annoying to think that without new virtual ports, it will be impossible to source a HOME living dex from the original Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh, and Unova. Even though old hardware has shown us that it's possible, I sadly can't see them being bother to both give us back these games and make them HOME compatible.
They obviously will do though eventually.
Vimms lair is OP lol
They could be saving them for 30th anni like they did for the 20th on 3DS, but also Nintendo hasn’t treated their eshop the same. Old games are relegated to NSO, while the eshop gets remakes and remasters and bundle collections but I can’t think of just an old title on its own being resold, so the Switch’s treatment of old games has changed.
And with how underwhelmingly profitable old games are when made legally available, I dont think Nintendo feels any warrant to push them out faster. They’d be nice as a consumer even if I still own my old cartridges and a DS to play them on, but from the business side, they probably think its better served as a celebration release than just an addition to the market.
This makes sense
What’s the music starting at 1:57?
Lake theme - Pokémon BDSP
My theory is Game Freak/ILCA can't figure out how to make them compatible with Pokémon Home
Because they don't want you to make multiple save states where you can catch pokemon that you can only obtain once in a save file (for example starters, some fossils, and certain legendaries)
They're going to resale it at some point like how they did Gen 1&2 on the 3ds
Its crazy how colosseum and XD haven't been ported over to switch
why arent the pokemon pinball games on gameboy NSO app tho lol
Look, I just want my classic Pokemon red and I’ll be happy. I want my nostalgia childhood memories back and want to relive them again.
You have a point, but look at it this way they still can come out with them on switch. The pokemon home has quest to have pokemon from older games and now with ds servers shut down only way we could complete it is modding or forced to buy them again on switch
Hey, I quickly wanna add something: In the middle of the video you dismiss the idea that ports to NSO should be compatible with Home. However, the 3DS re-releases on Virtual Console were compatible with Bank and had trading capabilities through local wireless communication. The transferability mattered a lot, as it was the easiest, and sometimes only way to get Pokémon with their Hidden Ability or certain movesets for competetive Pokémon. Drought Ninetales or Chlorophyll Venusaur are good examples of this.
It’s wild to me that they put the Stadium games on there. Those games were designed around the assumption that you’d be using your RBY and GSC Pokémon. There’s really no point to them being on there, besides the mini games.
My theory is that Nintendo will eventually do a remake of these games for the Switch 2 whenever it comes out probably around the holidays and would probably throw Pokemon Colosseum and XD Gale of Darkness into the mix, which honestly sounds like the most Nintendo thing to do.
I was thinking exactly this.
My cope is that they're waiting as long as possible to release them on the eShop, that way they maximize profits. If they release them too early, people will be busy with those and take away attention/sales from the mainline games. However, the way they released them on 3DS was Gen 1 eight months before the switch was announced, and then Gen 2 six months after it had launched. They're banking that the majority of people that'll buy it are the hardcore fans that'll buy it regardless of when they release it (which would probably be right). With 2024 being late into the switch's lifespan and all of the Scarlet and Violet DLC being finished, I think this coming Presents is a great time to announce them coming to either eShop or NSO over the next year or so.
I did buy an anniversary game pack if they had all the games in one
The way I would suggest going about the gen 3 games is to sell each one and for the mythical events a dlc
DLC noooooo 😭😭
@@JacobCruise it won’t be too bad, my interpretation is like a 2 or 3 dollar dlc where you get the event tickets
It's probably that they just want to sell the games as near full-price separate titles, but Nintendo is probably wanting to throw them on NSO. It may also be that they want to cut off the route of creating hacked Pokemon in the older generations and transferring forward to bypass the extra security they've been adding to keep hacked Pokemon out of newer generations. The consistent stream of cloned legendaries coming in from Gen 1-7 is probably something they really want to stop even if they aren't sure how.
They have proven time after time they do not care about hacked mons, Multiple World Champions have used hacked teams and been proven to be hacked and they did nothing to punish them so i highly doubt that is the reason.
They haven't figured out a way to milk more money yet.
I think we just need to wait it will come at some point but I wouldn’t be surprised if had to pay to use Pokémon home to vc
The optimist in me subscribes to the Pokémon home theory.
I’d love to see a Let’s Go version of Gold/Silver. Gold/silver/crystal were my absolute favorites in the series.
yes but with traditional battling mechanics and the capturing like GO
I think right now now is the perfect time to put the games on the switch since legends z-a is not releasing until 2025 and I don't thing we are gonna get anything new this year
Maybe, they are waiting for the 30th anniversary. Thats how they were released on the 3DS they waited for 2016 even though the 2DS virtual console has been available since 2011. Red Blue and Yellow were added in 2016. Gold and sSilver were added in 2017 and Crystal in early 2018.
U can even play old school pokemon with multiplayer with PokeMMO available on ios, android, pc, and Mac it's awesome!
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indeed im already taking it into my own hands with my practice and firered tails fan game work in progress Tails Pokemon Adventure and Firsty his female vulpix companion!
Maybe once they run out of ideas for new generations, they'll start rereleasing hard copies of the classics, with their corresponding hardware even if we're lucky. They might even make ports that can connect link cables with Home. Not saying they'll do that but it'd be awesome if they did.
I doubt they’ll ever run out of ideas
I recently bought a gba and pokemon red in ebay, its so pricey but worth it. I should have kept my consoles and games when i was younger.
Because gamefreak has been making terrible pokemon games for a while now. If they rerelease the old games, more people would play them and prefer them over the new games. This means that if gamefreak released another terrible pokemon game after porting over the old good games, people's taste would be accustomed to a level higher than the slop gamefreak pushes onto shelves. A lot of people may still buy it, but the reviews would be so terrible that they would be forced to put work and effort into their games.
If we ever got them, it would be from an alternative app. This way save states/rewind are removed. But even that is too good to be true due to, you guessed it, CANNABILIZATION.
It looks like remakes are gonna be a thing on a side and the main games will the focus point
Don't pay, just play
I think the reason for it is both cloud saving and the fact that nso has save states and rewind functions which could lead to way too easy rng manipulations and a flood of cloned mons. i highly doubt we will get it on nso it would be more likely to get it on a seperate emulator that doesnt have rewind or cloud saving
Simple answer is, the old games were released on the 3DS so you could trade up to the newer games easily. Which they do not need to do for the Switch yet until Bank goes down. And even then, they seem set on releasing new games that will give you those old mon instead of throwing ports onto a subscription service
im actually pretty convinced they will come with the switch 2 release, they seem to be scraping every single game to be in the lineup for that release, maybe even restrict them to be playable on switch 2 only and bring them to switch 1 later on. regardless i think playing them on the switch on the tv is a better experience than playing it on an emulator on pc, i would love for them to come out sooner
Gamefreak hates us. That's why.
Wait, are the Wii games that people bought now unplayable?
No. If you bought games u can still play it. But if not, they’re off the market
Someone needs to come up with a mod that connects a GB/GBA cart reader to the Switch USB C port or Switch cart reader, allowing the Switch OS to recognise and run the carts.
Gen 3 is still pretty good, even compared to current gen and the formula for main games is still really similar with recent new features being poorly done.
This make them direct competition to the newer games (compare Platinum to BDSP) and I think that's why they're not available.
The games not being available gives Nintendo/Game Freak more room to release games and make profit.
You should really be comparing BDSP to DP, not Platinum. Platinum was not the remake fsns asked for.
What fans actuslly wanted was a Legends esc game set in Sinnoh with all the benefits of Platinum. Which we did in fact get.
I would give my right kidney to have these on switch with Pokemon home
There are people that up to this day, play the older games because they want to transfer the pokemon caught in there up to the modern games. If these games are in the swotch and if they'ye compatible with home, transfering would be so much easier.
I would prefer a collection of every game from Gens 1-5. They can even sell it at full price if they want. Honestly, given the current Pokemon Go situation, a Pokemon collection would be the only new Pokemon thing I would buy until something changes.
Even thought I love Pokemon I just bought a rg35 xx plus emulator to play the old Pokemon games.
A game series I want on the switch is the Yo Kai Watch series since the first game got a remaster in Japan and only Japan.
Emerald was my first game. Loved that shit.
They sold them for 10 bucks red blue and yellow for awhile on the eshop I just found my old switch lite and realized I did T have my paid download of blue version and was like wtf so I came here to see why I can’t find it again and buy it if I had to. I’m so upset I was so excited to replay old Pokémon on my switch again
The would make a gold mine. I would literally go buy a switch and all the games right now.
Descent theory but I have doubts. The previous console that supported Pokémon was the 3ds which gave us access to gen 1 and 2. On top of backwards compatibility with the DS games. I don’t doubt Gamefreak being lazy and there’s no way in hell they’re release them on NSO. But I doubt they’re worried having access to the classic games will hurt their overall revenue. Pokémon is the biggest money maker of all time. And that’s not just games, we’re talking anime, toys, spin offs. Whatever their reason is I doubt they think gen 10 or a potential gen 5 remake will undersell in anyway. They need more content in general, more Pokémon designs to market with, more everything.
I love the remakes of pearl and diamond idk if I’m only one but I want one new remakes that are legit
By the time these games get added to the Switch (if at all), Nintendo and TPCI would be too slow to release all of them and implement Pokemon HOME support. The newest console would be released by then.
Hey hey! At least they put Mario 1, 2, 3, world, and yoshis island on there twice between the SNES, NES, and GBA online.
Its more about wanting people to buy the remakes. Paying 5-10 for the originals or 60 for the remakes its obvious what to choose. The lets go versions of the games have never dipped under 45 in the years since they came out
Red/Blue/Yellow were released on 3DS eshop on their 20th anniversary. I could see them getting a release on their 30th anniversary on Switch. That would be 2026. Timing is everything for Nintendo/GameFreak. They dont just throw their Games on NSO for fast money. They wait for the perfect Timing.
RIGHT!I had it then I tried it was gone off my switch went to see if I could re buy it on the eshop and well let’s just say I was very disappointed lol
i will never let them live down what they did to diamond and pearl
But wait, the 3DS had the classic games with Pokémon Bank in Pokémon home
BDSP: I just want the old underground experience of making my base look cool and fun… sure the new statues and wild Pokémon are great, but did they really need to remove the old feature? That was literally my main reason for playing the underground before
Laziness because everyone knows people would pay $60 for the first 3 gens unchanged.
I’m done waiting. I hacked my DSi and am now playing Storm Silver on original hardware.
PokeMMO is the only answer
The only real way to deal with this issue now in days is just to homebrew all of your Nintendo consoles. Since they’ve been closing everything left and right, recently with the 3DS and the WiiU, now the only thing that can realistically save their own consoles is the homebrew channel and other similar alternatives. You can’t come up to me and say that the remakes are just as good as the originals when, that’s genuinely not the case.
To be honest, I'm ready to buy a bundle of old Pokemon games for $70 if it came out
Pokemon is the incarnation of "Suffering from success"
Soul silver is all I’ll ever need