Can you beat Pokemon Red/Blue with just a Cubone?
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Should have given the rival Venasaur no?
That’s a scam
I've just realized that the back and front sprites of the Pokémon you use in your Can you beat Pokémon Red/Blue videos are almost identical to the sprites when Pokémon Red/Blue is played on a Super Game Boy.
@@MonkeyDLuffy-ed4fj Not affiliated with Jrose or Zenmarket, but I manage one of the larger retro games businesses in Australia and we regularly use Japanese auction proxies to get things like used controllers and memory cards in bulk. All of the major ones (Buyee, Zenmarket, From Japan, White Rabbit Express etc.) are completely genuine and used by thousands of customers worldwide.
We use Zenmarket over the others, since:
- White Rabbit charge very high fees (but the service is excellent)
- Buyee charge slightly higher postage fees, but without the better service
- From Japan have the best looking site, best currency exchange rates, and support staff who are genuinely professional enough to get jobs as UN translators, but behind the scenes their company has some incredibly dumb policies which must be rigidly adhered to because of Japanese culture. We've currently been back and forth with them for 6 weeks (!!) because they weren't able to simply slap a FedEx label on a box of PS4 controllers.
Zenmarket are pretty no-frills (site could look better, during peak times it sometimes takes ~1 week to package up the item), but support actually solves problems sensibly and the costs are low.
So while I personally couldn't recommend randomly signing up to all of Jrose's sponsors (VPNs don't actually protect your already-encrypted banking information, Raid: Shadow Legends has predatory mechanics), Zenmarket are a great company and you can save heaps of money on certain products by importing directly from Japan.
zenmarket is goated
Doesn’t matter why I opened RUclips… when JRose drops, the world stops
The earth is always spinning
@BasicMaffs not when JRose drops
@@humbirdms2784 lol he overcomes the laws of physics and nature?
@@xtreme3353He does not.
@@BasicMaffsit's not just spinning...
I like the sidebars having the badge info and art of the pkmn. Very nice touch, especially with the sprite colors
Yeah that was a great change
@@logansmith2703 Weird, I hate it tbh
It looks like shit
@@BigThunderMan unpopular opinion.
Completely agree, gives you a way to compare the runs in more ways, and more variety.
It’s time to admit everyone in this run into… THE BONE CLUB.
Now that's a jrose joke lol
It’s perfect 😂
The bone zone.
BONNNE
Boned 🍖
I like to imagine that for their Special moves, Cubone/Marowak uses their bone as a magic staff. That doesn't explain their inability to use Thunderbolt and Thunder, and if anything makes it weirder, but hey.
There is a bit of a trend where pokémon that can use elemental moves (usually Draconic mons or Normal-type-ish beasties, and Cubone seems like a bit of a mix of the two) tend to not be able to use those moves that have a type, which their own type would hinder them in using with sort of real-life logic: Fire dragons can't learn Water-type moves or Ice moves, Ice dragons don't learn Fire-type moves, Ground dragons don't learn electric moves (except Rhyhorn and Rhydon who have a special thing with their horns being a lightning rod), Bibarel can't learn fire moves other than Sunny Day. One of the big exceptions to this is Nidoking and Nidoqueen, who only gain their secondary Ground typing upon evolving and are already able to learn Electric moves as their previous stages.
As I say, it's only a trend, not really a rule.
This is canon now.
In Pokémon stadium, I believe their elemental attacks like ice beam come from the club itself
I came up with the explanation that Cubone cries so hard its tears become Bubble Beam
Which is strange cause it can learn Thunder and Fire Punch, but not Ice Punch.
Cubone so sad it can use its tears for water moves, and its lack of its mothers warmth let it use ice moves.
It needs a vaporeon. They are the most compatible.
Aren't we all most compatible with vaporean 😉 lol
@@patricksmith2295personally, never vape, always glaceon, sometimes leafeon, sometimes sylveon
Cubone is actually a Charmander whose Charizard mom died and it's flame went out. It's a ground type now because it'll never grow wings.
@@metalcake2288 Someone get it some RedBull
24:05 I thought you were about to say the ledge boss. Truly the ultimate rival. Not even Fival can best it on a good day.
He was even saying "in order to get to Lance", as if he was going to say "I have to get past this ledge"
12:44 hi mom 😭
I had to rewind and pause quickly because i thought i saw that. Nice touch by JRose
@@justinbowman2126 i think its the new editors work. He does a good job
Be sure to thank Sean for that one!
Lorelei was also brutal when I did this one in Yellow. Interestingly, I also find myself underestimating her difficulty when using Pokemon weak to her, specifically Ground and Flying-types, so you're not alone!
At 26:45 you talk about it not being fun for you to do multiple runs and that statement really made me think about the strength of these early generation Pokemon games. There are so many ways for players to create their own rules and ways of playing. These games find a way to stay fresh and interesting. It's great to see you playing the game with a different approach. The more approaches there are out there, the better we all get to learn these games, and the more we can all continue to enjoy them. I also applaud you for continuing to play the games in the way that brings you the most joy!
Scott shoutout in a Jrose video. One step closer to the long awaited collab.
You did it, you were mentioned by Jrose. :)
Scott is such a nice and passionated guy. I would love to see you guys working together
Reminds me of the social science idea that there are two kinds of genius, inspiration vs progressive refinement. One isn’t better than the other, they contribute different things. We wouldn’t have this format without Jrose, we wouldn’t have the overlay/router/community without Scott
Hey, didn't expect you here
While I can't explain Blizzard really, Fire Blast makes perfect sense for Cubone specifically.
The japanese name "Daimonji" is a reference to a specific japanese festival about when the spirits of deceased family members go back to the spirit world.
Now if you know Cubone's story, you know why this fits, and also why probably the alolan form is fire of all things.
Also why iirc aside from Alolan Marowak Cubone can't learn any other fire moves since that's a very specific connection.
Maybe Blizzard and Ice Beam has something to do with the Ice Age, which happened right after the Dinosaurs died (Cubone and Marowak are based on dinosaurs). Or maybe it’s because they are “cold blooded”.
Maybe it's because he's a cool baby monster so he can spit beams like Godzilla (thus learning Water Gun, Ice Beam, its variants, and Fire Blast, the only Fire-type TM on Gen I)
I don't understand why a japanese spirit festival is related to fire blast?
@@RustyShakleford01In the festival they make a bonfire in the hills with an specific form (this letter -> 大), and Fire Blast makes reference to that symbol. Look up daimonji in Google to see the fire, you'll see that it has the same form as the Fire Blast animation
@@RustyShakleford01 Fire Blast's animation is a fiery 大, and in the Gozan no Okuribi festival, they light giant bonfires in the shape of that character. The festival is also known as Daimonji, which is Fire Blast's japanese name
Had a lot of problems with this one.
Constantly choosing to Body Slam instead of STAB Dig often slowed the game down.
Examples: Starmie vs Dig would have resulted in a much faster KO than trying the Body Slam paralysis.
Dig vs Exeggcute on Rival Fival would have led to Dig - Miss - Dig - Leech Seed - Dig - Miss - Dig - KO, dodging paralysis.
Poison being weak to Ground meant a lot of neutral damage for Grass/Poison Mons. (Good argument for Blastoise over Venusaur)
Body Slam is 80 BP per turn. Dig is 150 BP with STAB included, but spread across two turns, so it's only 75 BP per turn. Assuming no resistances/weaknesses, Body Slam has the better DPT, and can cause paralysis.
Boy forgot dig was a two turn move 💀💀
Fun fact: Red/Green source code data reveals that Marowak actually had its own ultimately scrapped evolution!
Aw damn. Shame it didn't make it. I wonder what it would have looked like
It's Kangaskhan isn't it?
Femursaurus?
i assume kanghaskan learns the same odd elemental TMs as cubone. confirms the myth maybe?
@@Hoodlum_Media it's also coming from the fact that Marowak has the same shape and tail as a Kangaskhan
at 14:19 when you were fighting rival fival you got fully paralyzed while underground from using dig, triggering a glitch where enemy attacks will always miss as the game thinks you are still underground. if you hadn't used dig again (cancelling the glitch) you could have potentially won, although with bad enough luck, leech seed might have been enough to do you in. Of course, taking that win would be pretty cheaty so i get why you would want to avoid it.
I was going to mention this. I don't think the single player offers a lot of opportunity to abuse this bug, but it's a pretty notable one as it's pretty devastating competitively (you basically automatically win the entire battle, leading to Fly and Dig often being banned).
he doesnt use glitches outside of badge boost, so it wouldn't be valid
I like how just two minutes after JRose was talking about whether Blastoise or Venusaur/Gyarados would be harder, Exeggcute proves to be the rival 5 roadblock.
It is pretty funny, sadly when it becomes Exeggutor it's basically worthless, so I personally would have considered Gyarados/Venusaur the harder pick for the Champion fight.
Welp, redo the run!
@@nolongeraperson One of the reasons I thought Venusaur would be harder than Blastoise was that Razor Leaf would effectively be a OHKO on Cubone, as it will almost always crit and could ignore any potential badge boosts.
@@sonicdoommariothere's that for the mid-game and also having Gyarados on the team means there's a powerful water type that he can't EQ or Dig into submission. Venusaur might be the weaker starter here, but the Gyarados would've been a great wall imo.
I love the overlay! The gym badge times and elite 4 death counters are great!
Who else is watching this video wearing the skull of their dead parent?
You too?
@@___________0Z0X I thought I was the only one!
I’m in my underwear lol
Who else copy/pastes the same cringe shit on every video with a cubone in it for the last 20 years for attention from strangers online
@@davemccombs how are you into Pokemon and is this high-strung? 😂 damn
Jrose and Body Slam. Name a more iconic duo.
Scott's Thoughts and Rest XD
Contenders:
Mimic and Amnesia
Pidgey and Sand Attack
Ekans and Wrap
Outdated meme, but reading the rival's name makes me think "What the Dog doin'" Everytime he enters a room.
It's a timeless meme as far as I'm concerned. I'll be citing it at the nurses in the old-folks home someday.
I don't remember this meme. Can someone refresh my memory?
Interesting, I didn’t even go to the meme. It reminded me of Pokemon Rusty Version battling Blain’s “dog type” and its weakness to cu-bones
16:35 Lorlelei’s Lapras also learned Blizzard by TM (it shockingly can’t learn Blizzard via level up in any generation but gets Sheer Cold, go figure), and Agatha’s last Gengar learned Toxic.
Jrose acknowledged Scott!
I'm dreaming of a colab between JRose and Scott, that would be so fire!
@@moerdere1ch The greatest crossover in human history
The Pokémon ultimate championships Scott vs jrose
@@theMOCmaster with all the running gags, like the count Count Impression and misstyping venomoth!
We have pretty much confirmed now that the main factor for time is Brock and the main factor for levels is Lance. If you struggle against Brock, you'll have a bad time at the end of the run. If you struggle against Lance, you'll need to be at a high level. Almost all Pokemon that need to be at a high level are weak to water, thus struggling to get past Lance's Gyarados, one of the only Pokemon in the entire game that has a high powered stab move. On the other hand, every Pokemon that has a high time doesn't get a move to hit Brock. Getting stuck at Lance loses less time overall than getting stuck at Brock. Leveling up once reaching the elite 4 is much faster than having to knock out Pokemon in Viridian Forest for experience.
These seem like good observations!
Jrose. You overlooked something about 5 minutes in.Cubone can absolutely deal with flying types without using struggle before that one Rocket trainer with the Zubat. To the left of the Mt Moon entrance is TM 12, which teaches Water Gun. It's not amazing, but it's better than struggle.
We get Mega Punch by that point, which I do mention
I think it'd be cool to see a win-loss record against each Elite Four member instead of just the losses
Wins = total - losses
28 total attempts counting the winning run. So he had a 4:24 win:loss rate against Lorelei, 2:2 against Agatha, and 1:2 against the champion.
Yeah just need to post total battles @misteral9045
@@tehmackness No it doesn't, and how did you manage to skip the comment after mine that figured it out?
@@misteral9045 your English is off mate
I've rewatched your videos dozens of times, when I struggle to even watch things like LotR or Star Wars multiple times. I don't know what it is, but it gets my mind out of dark places whenever I do. Thanks for continuing to entertain us!
26:30 I love the Scott’s Thoughts reference! I love watching his stuff for the reason you mentioned, it’s a really scientific approach. I enjoy both of your content even though they are very different.
Hey! He did our boy cubone dirty!
Charmander is higher level and higher time and still has higher placement!!! Charmander fan base would probably riot 😆
charmander was one of the first runs he did. would probably be much better if he did it again today.
@3eve0n the list as he says every vid is highly scientific and perfect for speed runs.... oh wait, I'm jk ofc 😜
I know, I know 😉
Should have thrown in another joke about the charmander fanbase just to empathize that it was not meant as a serious comment 😉
I'm a Charmander Stan and this didn't make sense to me either. Elite Four run was similar in difficulty to Charmander's, maybe a little easier with Blizzard in the move pool, but taking minutes off Brock should definitely rank Cubone higher.
i think the times on the left are a great idea but the little pic in the bottom right is making these a bit too cluttered to look at. these vids just being gameplay without too many things on screen was always their charm! great as always
MY FAVORITE PKMN GETS A RUN AT LAAAAST
i thought this said "my favorite pikmin"
Hey! He did our boy cubone dirty!
Charmander is higher level and higher time and still has higher placement!!! Charmander fan base would probably riot 😆
You should've battled all the trainers in both Koga and Giovanni's gyms. Would've been a fast way to get more levels without using rare candies.
I like the new time on the sides
100%
I kinda think Rival 5 deserves to be counted as one of the milestones tho 😁
19:14 - If only I was in a sitcom so the scene would immediately fast forward to the Pokemon Ultimate Championships that is now inevitable because you said that.
We should make the Pokemon Ultimate Champsionships with this teirlist. 😂
I love the additions on the sides of the videos with levels, number of fails, etc!! Please keep doing them
I really love the data on the sides of the run in this and the raichu video, props to the editor for them. They're not too intrusive (since the space was usually blank anyway) but are nice to keep track of progress or to quickly look back on
So something I adore in Gen 1 is how some of the TMs really fit the Pokemon's inspiration or lore.
Cubone learning Water Gun is tears.
JigglyPuff learning Water Gun and Thunder Wave is Water Balloon's and Static. Water Pulse being Gen 3 and Onward instead.
Yes, Lickitung without Lick is weird af, but ultimately the fact some Pokemon learn sets made sense to the lore is very fun to speculate about.
Sandshrew is born underground and spends majority of its life underground yet doesn’t learn dig on lv up lol
The new layout looks great. Keep the videos coming Mr. Jrose!
the new videos are great. Im really enjoying the extra details you're putting into them!
love the info on the side panels, great touch, making me think about re-watching old episodes and making graphs
Another JRose video so soon? My timeline has been blessed! Also love the editing! Seeing the timestamps on badges has been great to see!
Great video as always and love the new editing!
Yes!!! I've been waiting for this Cubone run for years since you started this series
New editor is a W for having the badge times and art of the mon on the sides 👌
Hope Jrose paid him more
Love watching these videos before bed. So many times I have fallen asleep to these. Awesome content man. Thanks for what you do
Yesssss another video! Always stoked to see a new run.
Thank you so much for your content. It is so relaxing to watch after a hard workday i really appreciate you bro!
2 upload in such a quick time, things you love to see! The times and loses counters are great to keep track of things. The animation of the pokemon is also super cool
love the videos man and been supper excited to see cubone and sandshrew
Thanks for doing these. I really enjoy watching them.
24:08 "That's what I thought would be the ultimate test. I could not have been more wrong." as ledge boss once again emerges victorious.
Always looking forward to another upload, love the channel my guy
Let’s go jrose!!!! Loving the enthusiasm, and glad you are getting sponsorships ♥️ hope you are staying blessed and making good money my friend!
Thank you for running Cubone! I’ve wanted to see this for a long while and was excited to get the notification!
I’d also like to toss out a vote for Doduo. It’ll be cool to see if 2 (or Dodrio’s 3) heads are really better than one
Great foreshadowing! Can't wait !
Cubone is my favorite. Love your content man, been subbed for a long time now. Keep it up, and thanks for the vid!
After a while of seemingly no videos and now 2 in a few days?? Hell yeah!! It's a great day for sure 😀😀 ty for the extraordinary work and effort jrose :)
PS: definitely love the new addition on the side for times of the gym badges. Feels more speed runner esque and just makes it feel more.. official I guess? Idk but just really cool! Makes it easier to follow along and look back at specific times throughout the run. Definitely a good choice
Edit: also on the right at the E4 was a nice touch as well with the losses
Always love your videos man, keep up the good work!
I'm a simple man. I see a Jrose video, I watch it
You're so simple you speak in outdated memes
Thank you for continuing this series :)
I waited so long for this one! Love you JRose❤
Love the upload cadence! Keep them coming!
Always happy to see a new Jrose upload
Wouldn't Charizard have been the best match? It's a flyer, so no Ground moves, and he still has Gyarados as well that way.
I know you tend to pick the Pokemon that's super effective vs. you, as that's the closest mirror to the real starters, just pointing out that the argument exists Charizard would have been more difficult.
It's weak to Blizzard, though (Fire doesn't resist Ice in Gen 1)
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 fair point.
Venusaur would have been the toughest match.
Because it means you also face a tough Gyrados with hydro pump. And Exeggutor doesn’t have any grass moves to take advantage of the type difference.
@@user-tm7nw8xf5z Exactly
@@user-tm7nw8xf5zEarthquake does neutral damage against Venusaur, and Venusaur is likely to go for the two-turn move Solarbeam which offers a free turn to the player. Razor Leaf can also miss since it's only 95% accurate.
Really like the new screen setup that shows the respective times. Great addition
My favorite Pokemon! Thanks for lulling me off to sleep these last few years Jrose
Can’t wait to see Cubone club its way through this run!
Yo that’s so cool to see the Scott’s thoughts shoutout in the video! You two are my favorite poketubers!
The editing has been top-notch on these past two episodes. Sean is really making a great impression!
Still can't believe this man _straight up lies to us_ about there being no healing spots on the SS Anne in Gen 1. Just because he can't find it, or never goes there, he therefore says to us that it doesn't exist. What a swizz!
I think Jrose is literally the only RUclips channel where I will watch every video as soon as I catch it
An amazing video! Like always! I Can’t wait for marowak! One of my favs! 😍
i love every single of your videos
Waited for our dear mom-deprived Pokemon and boy was I surprised by the final few movesets. Thanks for uploading and good luck with the next videos.
These new edits are so clean to see alongside the vid, props to the editor!
It's cool as hell to hear the Scott's thoughts call out.
That dude has been grinding for a while now and puts a wild amount of work in.
The extra data on the sides is awesome. I love our new editor friend.
i love the new editing in these videos. good job editor.
I love the electric-green color that you gave to the sprites, just so striking.
This is gonna be a great video. I LOVE THE INFO ON THE SIDES
I really like the quick info dashboard
This setup you have for this video is beautiful. I like it alot. Props to your editors.
JRose videos are even just a great listen to have while you busy doing house tasks etc. Even when just listening to the commentary your very well aware what situation hes in. You can either watch them or have them as a good listen while keeping yourself busy.
It has water moves because of its tears 😂
Bro, I've been waiting for this!
Huge fan of seeing all the badges and the level you got them on the side!
So glad to see another vid so quickly!!!
Fun fact: Ground+Normal has perfect neutral coverage in gen one with the lone exception of Aerodactyl!
There is nothing better in the world then logging on and seeing a j rose video. I have been enjoying Scott’s thoughts lately. But you are the goat!
Sean's loss counter is a big improvement!
love your vids and the work you put into them. thank you
Love the new production. The timestamps on the side are really nice.
"Only one way to find out" love this series great work! Editor included
I'm liking the new editing!
26:29 - also, love the shout-out to Scott'sThoughts...in my headcanon, the "Elite 4" should be JRose, MahDryBread, ScottsThoughts, and Pikasprey...JRose specializes in seeing what No Plan can do, competitively ranked with other NoPlans; MDB doesnt have a plan either, but he just wants to have a good time; Scott will start with a plan, and tweak it as needed to bring out the Full potential...
...and then Pikasprey puts in MONTHS of planning with his softlock scenarios, to make sure you never touch a Pokemon cartridge ever again xD
Finally my favorite pokemon 😃
You make great videos keep it up
Love the added information on the margins of the video! Use all the screen !!!
This run was so funny, thanks jrose, you've been entertaining me for years now. Talking about the rival starter, I don't know, maybe venusaur would have made the run harder. First of all, blastoise relies on bubble/water gun for too long, while venusaur uses razor leaf which is broken in gen 1. And outspeed cubone, so good luck with that. Second thing, gyarados has a decent bulk, has hydro pump like blastoise and is immune to ground moves, and venusaur is just better than exeggutor which is not a threat at all. I've been asking you for long time now, but I really want to see the sandslash run, which I believe will be able to do a great run, definitely the best ground type in gen 1: bulky, decent speed, good attack, great movepool
A third Jrose video this month? Heck yessssss, that'll be incredible.
Good old, little Cubone, one of my favorite Pokémon of all time. Glad to see them get a video in this series!
More Jrose! Great end to my evening!
The added graphics on the sides really are such a quality of life update great job
Great job Jrose, cubone did alright it’s interesting it can learn blizzard and keep up the amazing work
2 episodes in 4 days
Maaaan, Jrose with the treats for his audience, i love it !