Blood Debt: Feudal Familial Law in the Balkans
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- Опубликовано: 1 апр 2015
- In some parts of the Balkans, families still live by a centuries-old law called "the Canon," which recognizes the right to vengeance-if a man from one family kills another, the family of the victim must respond in kind. This "debt" is usually executed by the eldest male member of the family. It is his duty to avenge his loved one-if he refuses, he declared a coward and renounced by his family.
VICE Serbia recently traveled from East Montenegro-where some families have experienced four cycles of vengeance-to the north of Albania, where some children never leave their homes in fear of being killed. Along the way they spoke with families of murder victims who, disappointed by the corruption of the official justice system, have taken judgment and punishment into their own hands.
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Everyone- We miss the 90’s
Balkan people- *Sweating Intensifies*
The US really fucked eastern europe.
Sam Ludu Well, if anything Eastern Europe really screws itself over
@@silentact1 Well US shock therapy did not help.
HAHA true
@@samirrewari6104 eastern europe fucked eastern europe dont blame US
Lmaoo... Dude describing the place where he shot/got shot and the reporter asks...
"How does it feel coming back here?" Trying to get an emotional response, and the dude's just like..
"I don't care they were assholes."
😩👌😂
He didn't say that at all as answer, he said that "there's no any feeling, just like going to watch football game"
big fan of how he almost cries at the thought of his dug
PERIOT
I never think about it he said hahahh
2balkan4reporter
'Fuck his father's beard!'
What a fantastic curse! I must start using it.
Right..lol
f*#! Your Mothers mustache lol
I fucking spit out my coffee on that one. This is now in the lexicon of swears.
_"And F You in particular good sir!"_
Balkans, where everyone can be John Wick.
😂 😂 😂 😂
Lmao so true
Literally
"No cameraman was killed during the filming of this episode."
"Fuck his father's beard" Man that had me rolling lol
Jesus Christ me too! Borrowing that one...
Lol hell ya me too.
***** pbs.twimg.com/media/CCDcluhW8AArRtp.jpg:large
ArtyCraftZ "knee" in serbian also means descendents or generations
*****
Which is unusual given that the Balkan people are very religious.
don't worry about my wife. she's a man, not a woman. classic
classic balkan answer haha
That could have to meanings and both are bad.
What do you think he meant by that?
@@trysimmahdownk2060 that she is as strong as a man.
@@trysimmahdownk2060 buy byou j bb
Tradition or not, Albania or not: if someone would kill my child and wouldn't be punished accordingly by the law, then I would go after him with a vengeance. I think every parent who loves his children could understand this. Kind of like in A Time to Kill (the movie)
An eye for an eye, but to kill an unworthy kill such as someone who is innocent or someone who can't defend themselves deserves more then just an eye taken
I'm Albanian. I've known hard men who had to swallow their pride and walk away from a blood feud. They had to leave and disappear from shame that they weren't willing to avenge their blood. It's easy to say I'd kill and do etc. Until you're faced with the situation itself where you'll be spending 25 years in a cell and your children and male relatives marked for death.
An eye for eye , they say the world will go blind
Not many people can to that, because most people will avenge the dead one
Your an idiot theybaint going after them theybare going after their children. Moron
Im Albanian american my child gone. God would have to stand me up
"God? To those who have plenty, he gives more. The unlucky ones, he kill" what a powerful statement...
That may be but its heresy.
@Fish Sandwich lol shut up
I can say that the statement was bull shit said out of ignorance
@Fish Sandwich lol
@@catholiccrusader5328 only for believers in bullshit !... holy bullshit
Why are people in the comment section so dumb? they keep saying they have never heard of this, and then they say they are from Croatia or Serbia. this is only an Albanian and Montenegrin practice, so it makes sense why you never heard. i am from Montenegro and I very much know about this tradition. some of you should stop pretending to be such experts
Uglavnom lazu. Mi Srbi o krvnoj osveti u brace Crnogoraca ucimo od osnovne.
Hahaha i feel you
Macedonia same thing i know beacose we have albanians
@Dino Budzak it happens in kosovo aswell. Dont speak about a country you dont live it.
@Dino Budzak In doesnt happen in Southern Albania.
I don't know what's the fascination with the picture of Balkan being some wilderness, wild frontier. I live here. That is some 18th., 19th century stuff. You all think we live in huts and go to war parties. I can walk trough the streets at night without fear. I can walk trough Zagreb, Belgrade. Nobody cared. Can you say the same in Harlem, slums in Paris, neighborhoods in London, south Central, Compton.
+BORO14531 Don't be biased. I bet there are slums in the Balkans that most people would fear walking through at night. So why mention slums in the west? DUH. It's the slums filled with poor, disenfranchised people who are angry you walk through there at night you are likely to get mugged. The same thing would happen in Serbia, Croatia etc. By the way, there are nice areas in Harlem so it's not just a massive slum.
Lena Axe actually you are wrong
In the Balkans there aren’t that kind of arias we are actually very much different than western civilization
Leave America and try to travel and see how people are outside of your bubble (they are not as the tv presents them)
@@lenaaxe2803 lol the only place I'd be afraid to walk would be the gypsy neighbourhood.
Tako je brate
Boro you are so right. I live here in Chicago in an Italian neighborhood and those folks never let a slight go unpunished. Case in point I'm a lay minister in the local Catholic church. One Sunday from the pulpit I messed up with a person's name. I apologized on the spot and after Mass. The family understood my not being Italian and forgave me but I didn't want to take any chances. My step father was murdered for disrespecting some gangster. Blood feuds are pagan, demonic and barbaric. I'm glad Albania and Montenegro are making serious efforts in eliminated this evil practice.
"I don't care. They were assholes." WORD.
In Balkan every family have one John Wick.
"Gjakmarrja" is Blood feud in Albania. Too bad it's still prevalent in Albania today, it's horrible. My family was apart of one a long time ago.
@shqiptarja 1 percent have u not watched the news
Yeah Albanians are great...
@@svekimeki8664 blood debts is very rare in Albania only in some villages he made this dumb comment bcs in my opinion he wanted to look interesant buut at least Albaniansare more civilianed than South Slavs.Also Albanians in Kosovo dont have blood debt but if we would have that would mean to kill every chetnik bcs all chetniks did massacres towards innocent civilians so thank God in Kosovo there arent any blood debts
@@lalala5471 we catholic Albanians in dukagjin Kosovo do,
@@svekimeki8664 if ur planning to create an opinion of Albanians just through internet than ur wrong at least dont create a bad image of Kosovo bcs as i know Anton Çeta united all Albanians even tho blood debt in Kosovo was a problem only in few villages but anyways u can do what on earth u want
Edit:as i know Albanians in Kosovo(Dardania) never had this issue during Tito but when miloshit came he made propaganda abt Albanians in Kosovo to not tell to serbs that he is actualy killing innocent kids he made this propaganda that they are killing each other which if ur slavic i hope u didnt take it that serious at that time that propaganda
Thank you so much for sharing this. My mother's side is from Montenegro, and I have lived there for a good part of my life. It interests me so much when you guys post about the Balkans, especially former Yugoslavia. Not much of the western world knows anything about this part of the world. The struggles from the wars have left a lot of people in despair and sorrow, and it is pretty sad to see. Thank you Vice.
We has a couple of Yugoslav students stay with us as lodgers when I was a child. My grandmother used to holiday in Croatia. Part of the problem was that the Communists didn't allow much news out from that part of the world and Albania only really came to the attention of people in the UK when a TV show called Blue Peter did a report on the desperate conditions in the orphanages in places like Albania and Romania. After that we heard nothing until the war following the collapse of Yugoslavia. So no I personally don't know a lot about the region. I understand the Orthodox church played a big role in stoking tensions between the Serbs and the Bosnian Muslims. I was wondering if that was true?
So true and so sad Love from Boston Massachusetts Usa
Thank you Vice for putting these documentaries up for everyone to watch. If I could afford HBO I would get this awesome content, thank you guys!
the cab drivers in all these stories: 👁👄👁
I appreciate the upload of the entire thing.
The reporter did a great job.
I feel so bad for him.
Imagine losing everything; you're sons, you're dog and at that point joy. He has no legacy, no children to carry his father's name. Nothing to show for the life he's lived. All because of some scumbag who kills his children. Life isn't fair.
Blood revenge happens when someone kills your own family member. Its eye for an eye essentially.
Your* u fckn dumbass
You can lose your sons, your health, your possessions and if you have God, you will be ok. The old man is cursed so don’t feel too bad for him. If anything, pray for him. ✌️
@@MyFootYourFace You're a prick for saying that. This is not a space to pitch religion.
@@andrewharper1609 nice try, iblis.
It's a sad situation and I feel badly for all concerned, but I feel most for the children. No child should have to grow up in such conditions. A child's life should be happy and carefree, with no worries about being killed or where there next meal is going to come from. My heart goes out to all of these kids.
You obviously haven’t been around the mafia
@@Mike-mb8oy Have you?
I first became acquainted with "the Canon" and blood feuds in Albania through Ismail Kadare's Broken April--an extremely powerful, unforgettable book I read in Greek translation over a decade ago. It is incredible that this archaic system of revenge, with its myriad governing rules, is still in existence. This video gives a good synopsis of the underlying madness.
Don't confuse kanun i lek dukagjini, with today's revenge or vendetta story's. All this is happening as result of state being powerless and corrupt to give justice.
@YiannisPho This is rich coming from an Arvanit that calls himself Greek bre. First of its called Kanun and here is what it means. Ka means To Have. Nun means Laws From Water. When you are baptized what does the priest do? He bless you with the holy water or does he not? In the first page of Kanuni of Leka Dukagjini you will find that he praises the church. But not only that. The kanun is called a zakon. Za or Ze means Voice. Zeu means The Voice. When you add the S at the end that means Is or Exists. Zeus "He Is The Voice". Kon or Kan means To Have. So Zakon means To Have a Voice when all else fails. So yes these are traditions that are past on from eons. Since when Zeus himself was around. This is how we the Epirot aka Eperme meaning Highland people have handled business throughout the ages. This is nothing new. Get acquainted with your traditions that they have taken from you. You should also look up Gjama Burrave. Gjama is the crying that people do when someone important dies. Kinda like Achilles did when his friend Patroclus died. Pulling his hair and beard and screaming at the top of his lungs. You wouldn't know this because this is not Greek history. It is Albanian history. You don't even know what the word Fustanella or Pileos means. Eventho Albanians created the new country called Greece. You would have to go to the Albanian language to get the meaning of everything Greek bre. You dont even know what the word Hellen or Hellada means. You cant possibly understand why the Kanun exists. You have alot of learning to do. Stop hating and learn why things are the way they are instead of just ignoring and trying to push propaganda.
Respect.
@@lordalexander5653 you seem to have a lot of knowledge. I like this a lot n
@@lordalexander5653 so Greeks are Albanian?
That last little scene after the credits was chilling.
Jii La Violence begets violence. It's not just an old time proverb, it's the truth.
fullmetalfunk
Chilling? Perhaps its time to put on a warm jumper
fullmetalfunk haunting. this thing just made me want to drink some more. fuuuk. I could give these two a hug wish somehow their lives turn around :(
It is I Drinking more will do you, nor them, any good. Just go do some kind things for someone. We might not be able to change the world there right now, but we can start in our neighborhoods. :)
i felt so bad for the kids
Today, that tradition is extremely rare, and mostly done by criminal families
I m from montenegro but in this country govermet dont give a fuck about you so .....
@@nirad8026 where did you get that from?? Do you like in kosovo or albania???
@@amex8876 da hell is kosovo? I only heard of Kosovo i Metohija, Serbian autonomous region
hahahahha it’s funny how u think that kosovo is serbia even tho it’s been over 15 yrs since kosovo is independent
i am from kosova i had this happen to my family but my family forgave the other family.
it all happened because of a soccer game we played.
We were just kids wanting to play soccer so went to play on this field we are all around the age of 12 and younger.
This man showed up on the field and swore at us and threatened to beat us up.
But like in most families we always have that one crazy cousin, that isn't afraid of anything.
I am not going to lie at that age we all run away.
But that crazy cousin stood his ground so I didn't leave his side. that man start to push my cousin around we were yelling at him to let him go.
the man went grabbed a large stick and started beating my cousin's legs. and my cousin stood his ground still.
The man was confused so he hit my cousin harder by this time you can see my cousin's legs turn red.
at this point, the man stopped my cousin was so angry he didn't feel any pain he went and grabbed two big rocks. I don't know how he was able to lift them at that age.
he was going to throw them at the man's face but we all stopped him. I told that man don't worry we got men too.
the first thing we did is we went home and told our grandpa. my grandpa was a nice man he never wanted trouble.
but don't let that fool you he was also the most feared man in that city most of the older people knew my grandpa because of his past they all respected him.
that man was younger generation so he didn't know who my grandpa was or our last name.
So I and my grandpa and my two cousins went back to the field to confront the man. That man came in front of us and I've never seen my grandpa that mad in my life my grandpa yelled at him "I am going to kill you" and "how could you do this to a child".
now let's go back to the part where everyone knew my grandpa.
so that man's father had passed away during the war. so that Man's only elder was his uncle which knows my grandpas and knows how big my family is.
the elder man heard my grandpa yelling and comes over to see what was going he gets in front of my grandpa Beggs my grandpa to forgive him. because the man is an orphan.
but that man-made remarks towards my grandpa. it was so hard to pull away my grandpa from the area it took 3 men so we left the field and went home. if it was for my grandpa that man would be dead.
we tried to be civil so we went to the police station to report the man. But like most places in Kosova everything is corrupt.
The police didn't do anything.
Bear in mind I have 7 uncles and my grandpa had 7 brothers which all had a lot of kids. and this only my close cousins.
everyone in the family heard about it. my grandpa set in motion the feud and said blood must be paid.
it was depressing because I knew that man's son I was friends with him before all this he was scared for his dad's life. That man couldn't leave to go to work every day my uncles waiting for the revenge
in my family tradition, you can't kill a man on his own property you cant kill any woman or children.
we younger boys could've gotten our revenge on the boy. but he wasn't the one who did us harm.
for weeks he was stuck in his house.
The man's mother begged my grandma for forgiveness in tears begging to spare his life.
we all saw blood and we wanted blood. but my grandma told me this which I think broke everyone's hearts. Don't put that mother in pain because she said I will cry for her because she is going to lose a son the same I could lose one of you. My grandma put herself in that mother's position.
I am not going to lie we were about 100 deep that night ready to go. my uncle loved his mother and always listened to her. my grandma convinced my uncle not to kill that man.
anytime you forgive another family terms have to be set. the random person that's not related to any party goes and meets with the other family to start the forgiveness.
if it was for my grandpa the feud would still happen he wanted revenge
Terms were set. The feud ended. or did it !!!!
Y’all bout that life in Kosovo.
Oh man the cute little Albanian kids touched my heart, that is so tragic they cannot leave the house for fear of being murdered. Even so, these coupes up children behave so well and have such pure hearts!
this is called Kanun bro and it is an albanian thing not balkan thing but the Kanun says that children and women cant be touched and you cant enter inisde their house but these days its shapeshifted to another thing people start to kill children of murderer its crazy and something very bad
Albanians and their forced imposition of Islam is part of the problem their parents and fellow Albanians are to blame along with Milosivic from the 90's ...one cannot blame the other KLa were terrorists as well watch the Fall of Milosiviec and listen carefully.......Islam no matter where it is with its pedophile Prophet bring chaos and strife
It broke my heart when he was talking about his little doggy 😔
Hvala za ovo - thanks for this vice :)
7:34 Holy crap, he had served in the army AND graduated from college by 23 years old?? And here I thought getting my degree in 3 years was fast!
+Lillyrose Manweller Don't know if youre aware but it used to be 1 year mandatory service in former Yugoslavia not 3 years like some other countries.
Exactly he probably served 1 year...don't worry your still doing great 👍 Girl 😉
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Anyone else notice the way she walks? Mmmm!!!
I replayed it like a hundred times.
gurney85 wait where?
AnarchyJesus c'mon, you have to be deliberately blind or purposefully biased not to see it. (@ 0:56, 3:03, 9:58, for example) Look at her graceful cadence- that swing and sway in her motion when she walks, all natural and not exaggerated; that feminine ease and confidence, and I know some folks have certain types of preferences in what they decide is a pretty woman, but I'm a very open guy and largely absent of prejudices when it comes to such things, to me beauty is beauty, and she is beautiful and carries herself such that it just enhances and exudes it.
You have no idea how genuine and 'non-rapey' I'm trying to sound here...
What's extraordinary about how she walks?
Damon Cassada she has style, in that it portrays confidence.
Outstanding report! Thanks!
Very impressive documentary. No words.
I was in Shkodra and firstly i met the best and most kind people and trust me i traveled all around the world and i never met any people like Albanians from North, my godfathers, soul brothers. And even if some of Serbians will call me an idiot i will take it because they will never know that there is more in life than just hate, there is trust and these people u can trust and they are honorable. I saw other Albanian documentaries concerning blood debt and every time i just could not comment on it and i know why.
Jer u osvetama nema mrznje a samo puno ljubavi el tako
👏💯
“Then you’d lose your cameraman” 😂😂 I love my homelands humour 😂
A great mini-doc! Extremely courageous for you & your camera-man to complete this work so close to the danger. Very well done and produced. I hope to see many more Katarina Petrovic produced documentaries. Sorry for sounding fanatic but Katarina, your inner beauty shines so bright through your expressions and eyes that one can't help but find you amazingly beautiful and captivating to listen to. There's no doubt that you'll go far in your career. Ju bëni atë më mirë se kushdo mund të!
I know I can't be the only one whose become addicted to VICE stories. Some of the best reporting I've seen.
Vice, I love watching your videos high but how am I supposed to read that fast when I'm baked
Its called Vendetta and its not only a Balkan thing. Many local areas have this ''tradition''
Excuse me we have a fucking expert!
Vendetta's don't spill to blood relatives unrelated in the original crime.
And you won't find crimes which result in Vendetta's as criminal so much as civil.
At least not today.
TheGreekSpawn we had them in Norway to it was called blood revenge "blod hevn".....but lot of the world pratice the same under a govern system so is it so strange to get killed if you kill an other person for greed or pride .....it is a human thing
***** You mean before the Christianize of Norway? That was a long time ago.
Omar Omokhodion no only about little over 100 years ago ..we even had the classic public executer dressed as a blacksmith with a black hood over his head and double bladed axe as a tool ..his name by trade was Rettskafferen and he had two helpers Rakkern og merraflåern ...but Norway have been a Christian country for over 900 years
I read about Montenegro being crazy but damn after seeing this I'm convinced. I'm a retired veteran teacher of 32 years. I thought my job was demanding working in inner city schools, I feel for that teacher in this documentary; that lady must do it all! She along with all the other good people trying to get them fools from killing each other I applaud their efforts.
The "debt of blood" has been a traditional "law" in diverse societies - from gang related violence in LA to Sicilian family vs family wars that can last for generations. This particular case is a very local one (some rural areas of Albania and Monte Negro) and does not generalize well to the Balkans. They might as well call it "Feudal Family Law in Europe". Wouldn't make much difference.
Now, there are obviously two different kinds of this "law" in the case presented. One kind is simply vigilante justice - notice extremely mild punishments for murder (15 years max). The other kind is killing of family members who were not involved with the original offence (the innocents). Do not conflate the two.
it is called kanun in albania
This is happening in Montenegro, not in Serbia, It's not part of Serbian tradition. Just to be clear.
Darko Ristanovic To be honest, even in Montenegro, this "laws" doesn't exist anymore.
Thanks for clarifying. It's not like it's obvious from like the first minute.
Minowalock I'm saying this because I'm sick of people from all around the World, America most of all , calling our people Barbarians and terrorists. We have beautiful culture and people, and somehow they only manage to dig up this dark stuff about us.
***** Like I said, this is not our culture, but regardless, people often believe that all countries on Balkan are the same, corrupted, dark and full of murderers. I'm ok with this video. I'm not ok with stupid stereotypes. Cheers.
Darko Ristanovic Ummm Montenegro only declared independence from Serbia in 2006. These are generation-old blood feuds that goes beyond 2006. Regardless of whether you culturally or personally relate to the concept of blood feuds, the fact still remains that the govt of Serbia and the newly established Montenegro are failing these families who hide their children in fear.
Love the way these people express their words.
Fishy Frank So much passion
we swear a lot thought :) in every sentence even if we are not angry :)
@@darkodarko9 it keeps us honest.
2 years ago we had a substitute teacher from Albania for 3 weeks and she told us about the blood debt and how many caught up in it never leave their house and have very small windows or no windows at all to not get shot so i'll give this a watch, should be interesting.
Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. Blood feuds aren't that bad. Blood feuds weren't like they are today, as a matter of fact, children aren't supposed to be in blood feuds. That's not how the gjakmarrja works in Albanian culture, the Kanun e Lekë Dukagjini. Only those who are 16 above can be in it, because they are men.
+Dukagjin True, Kanuni only allows adult males capable of bearing arms and soldiering to be involved, the rules are never broken because people stick to their honor. Women, children, elderly, and handicapped are given free passes. If you hurt one of these people the whole village and police will destroy you lol.
It was 14 vlla
Feel so bad for him. He tries to have his guard up but he's deeply destroyed and it shows.
Someone has to make the choice not to take vengeance for the sake of the future generations.
Unfortunately in the types of cultures where blood feuds are done anyone who doesn't take vengeance is seen as week and not worthy of any respect. This has very real consequences ranging from being seen as an easy target by some to being someone seen as not worth employing or doing business with. The same then applies to the family for allowing it, and the kids too.
It perpetuates itself.
eitkoml The moment I had a dollar to my name, I'd have a bus ticket to the most miles away I could get. once there, I'd save up money for a bus ticket even farther away.
In those isolated families it was worse than it would have been if they would have killed one or two of them. As it is, none of them live.
***** These were clearly Slavs in the beginning, you uneducated piece of shit.
***** Rusty Shackleford What's the point of arguing this? This is a rare occurrence and came from a poor justice system. It isn't a reflection of a population as a whole.
Hannah Maris You do realize Death Penalty in the US is exactly the same concept yes?
We say "taxista" for cab driver in Brazil too.
how else could they be named better ?..
No you call them Brazilian taxista hahahahhahahahahhah
What a bullshit lol. I'm from Croatia, me + all in my house never heard of this bullshit.
dje ti zivis prijatelju
+[̲̅G̲̅][̲̅A̲̅][̲̅M̲̅][̲̅E̲̅][̲̅S̲̅] [̲̅&̲̅] [̲̅M̲̅][̲̅O̲̅][̲̅R̲̅][̲̅E̲̅] To ti je samo u Crnoj Gori,ja mislim.
To je pocelo jos za vreme Turaka
+[̲̅G̲̅][̲̅A̲̅][̲̅M̲̅][̲̅E̲̅][̲̅S̲̅] [̲̅&̲̅] [̲̅M̲̅][̲̅O̲̅][̲̅R̲̅][̲̅E̲̅] postoji to u crnoj gori, kosovu, albaniji
Mihailo Lakovic moguce da si upravu da smo neobavjesteni svi pomalo! zato je tema otvorena. pricaj sto znas. svi bi culi
Mihailo Lakovic to sam cuo osobno. jedan albanac pricao da su kod njih krvne osvete normalna stvar, znaci i kosovo jer tamo ima albanaca, a eto i crna gora, pa na tim podrucjima balkana jos vrijedi i unaprijed dogovoren brak, a to je itekakav okidač za krvnu osvetu. novo je doba, cure se ne zele udati ili ako se udaju, a nisu nevine, eto ti zla. e sad koje su jos potencialni okidači. vjerujem da ih ima puno. od biznisa do...
it would be worth watching had Vice translated this audibly
Learn reading ,you wank
Sad . Never ending cycle . On a positive note journalist is beautiful .
If there's one good thing about Hoxha, it was that he stopped this practice.
That and attempting to bunker rush IRL.
really good reporting.
Thank you Shane. You folks are doing fucking brilliant work!
Every comment section for every video related to the Balkans is always among the absolute worst shit I read on RUclips
+mike Now imagine that, but every day, in school, on the street, TV, social media etc. Welcome to Bosnia my friend.
When I was a kid growing up in Turkey I remember watching movies about blood feud and reading news stories about them. I used to think it was mostly a backward tradition peculiar to Eastern part of Turkey. Apparently it's a very ancient custom existed long before the court systems in most tribal societies.
Eye for an eye it's even in the Bible
@@doomguy584 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Chechens still do this, too, informally. Which is interesting because its another mountainous region, like the one in northern Albania.
Your stories are Interesting, I wish you would slow down the Translations type ! There’s nothing like getting the WHOLE story
I'm from the Balkans, don't know what it's like in Montenegro or Albania or Kosovo, but I never heard of this. I mean I knew it existed 100 or so years ago (not everywhere) but even today, I'm kind of shocked.
Its the "Kanun of Lekë Dukagjini" not "Canon".
0rbEffect Not helpful
@igor grozni serbian *emperor*? What kind of fantasy are you living in?
@@_gouda7928 we had our emperor Tsar Dusan but i see you are ignorant af so i wont even gonna explain him to you
@@nikolamiladinovic8518 Dusan znam da je bio car al da je bio imperator prvi put cujem ! Imperije su bile Rim i Vizantija i imali imperatore , ja za druge tu kod nas ne znam ! bilo je knjazeva , despota , kraljeva i careva al imperatora ?
@@ohrid59mk76 pa zato sto na engleskom Tsar znaci imperator zato sam tako i reko
My problem with this kind of justice/revenge is the cycle of hate that wont be broken
hvala sto kad radite reportaze o balkanu stavite sinkronizaciju da mi mozemo slusati sto kazu njihovim rijecima hvalaa
OMG LAST WORDS OF THE KID
wtf albanian muslims and catholics don't have rivalry in the least... although there are religious people, albania is constitutionally secular as are a great majority of people (religious albanians are mainly limited to the diaspora; kosovo, western macedonia where the regime of enver hoxha failed to restrict religion as a whole) but never ever will you find discrimination because we do not identify ourselves with our religion as much as we do with the country.
Very true brother. Albania was once very religious prior to Enver's regime. Luckily we are no longer religious. Enver was smart for uniting Albanians as a whole.
are you albanian as well?
Yes I am.
+Vlonjat Shqiptar Yes, that sentence also caught my attention for the bad, since it is absolutely not true. Beside that, the documentary was very interesting and quite realistic.
Vlonjat Shqiptar Are you from Vlorë, because I'm also from Vlorë!
The closing remarks by the isolated boy is the actual results of blood feud of any kind.
thanks my left ear really eenjoyed this
Correction The Vice! : Blood depth "Kanun" are Albanian code of honor and was never "Balkans" en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanun_(Albania)
I'm from Bulgaria(east balkans), it looks like it's an western Balkans thing since I've never head of such "law".
True i never heard this in Slovenia crna gora and albania its 98% corruption and if u look it this way i kinda support .
***** as it's been said, it's albanian.
Имало го е преди, тук, там, на по-изолираните места още го има....рядко , но се случва! Албанските планини, както и черногорските са доста изолирани , особено албанските, и си живеят общо взето своя живот на мира там. Затова е по-разпространено, нас "цивилизацията" ни е дръпнала малко от тези времена...
bios47 It's Albanian and is called Kanun. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanun_(Albania)
It an Albanian thing and is not a law its like a group of rules ( writen and used in times when there was no law or state),
Fascinating!
Nice documentation but slow the subtitles a bit down. It was hard to follow.
I think it’s great that the interviewer spoke the native language and held ancestry there, it seemed to make the people trust her more.
She spoke the whole time serbian its just that many ppl in north albania speak serbian too.When she visited the two children she used the women as a translaitor
This is not in some parts of Balkan, its in very specific parts, at least today - Albania.
Thank for the insightful reporting. However, I think a better job can be done of the subtitles. Way too many mistakes.
Well, hearing the kids talk made me emotionally.
It looks like a circle what is very very very very very very very hard to break.
Poor children.
They do the same thing in Corsica it's called Vendetta,I believe the island has the highest murder rate per capita in Europe for only a population of like 300,000
***** Брат рус :D
Nothing to be proud of.
@@user-dq1kc6gr3e Mos fol bre pa lidhje. Korsika eshte ne France jo ne Sicili. gam gam per turp tzotit
@@sashy2495 oh no everyone should be ashamed of their local culture.
@@user-dq1kc6gr3e Te qifsha idiotin e nanes, Ata jane ne Sicili, e jo ne Korsike te qift dreqi nanen e budalles. Injorant i karit
sad,breaks my heart for the children,a child should grow up as one
this is bad info ...
this is in montenegro and albania not in serbia
vice please chech your infos before making such video
exactly
For all you bleeding hearts out there: An eye for an eye doesn't leave the world blind, it leaves two people with one less eye each.
Very late reply, but I think what they mean is that if they keep going back and forth "eye for an eye" style. In which case they saying would hold true.
this reminds me of 'taken' movie.. that one named 'marco of tropoja'
My great grandparents and grandma (rip) are from Serbia, I try to ask my great grandparents about this kinda stuff and I get no info
I felt very sorry about the family. I study political anthropology as a hobby and this is why there is law of the state and shows why a working judiciary system is very important.
I'm from the Balkans and I hear of this fro my parents but it's apparently only present in rural Albania now.
It's present by Northern Albanians, they follow an cold book law called ''The kanun of Lek Dukagjini''.
It has been used wrongly by Albanians many times, women and children are not suppose to be part of this.
Saw the thumbnail and all I can think about is "Emporers new clothes" by P!ATD!
The subtitles for this are really poor. Both the Serbian and Albanian translations are frequently off and in some cases that really ruins the point people were trying to get across.
20:22 brothers leaving horses tied in the middle of the road so they can’t make bruh 😂🤦♀️💀
Most people: That's sound about right. My point of view: this is not really justice but revenge. This two things are always confused.
What about yourself. As a person ... As a human being I must take the higher moral ground. How different I'm going to be if I kill the person who killed one of my family members. I know that this countries don't have the best justice system but killing the person is not going to resolve nothing. You are going to create a monster who feed in the sorrows of the people.
What's so bad about revenge?
Wow, you must be one special snowflake and above most people in the world. Fucking idiot..
Revenge had never resolve anything.
These laws are very ancient,they existed since Homeric ages and before when the societies didn't have very organised states,kingdoms with their official judicial systems.
And now they emerged because the corruption in today judicial system.
The part at 33:00 min aprox. was truly one of the most heartbreaking things i've seen in a very very long time.
When a girl that young cites a verse like that, and tells she don't leave the home cause her brothers can't.
Aswell as 34:15 - When questioned what movie the kid would make? The answer itself is terrifying and goes to show what this does to generation through generation.
There is alot of fucked up shit out there, alot.
And im not going to judge an entire country based of this, nor do i do it because we all have dark corners in our roots.
Might not be as apparent as this, but it's there.
Let's just hope that this tradition, aswell as all other ones alike or just as fucked up, perishes with time.
I am an Albanian Malsore from Northern Albania, the same part that is shown in this documentary. Although people from the outside will see it as something heartbreaking not everybody here does. The verse she is reciting is an ancient verse that is meant to represent love and honour more than anything. She’s saying my brother doesn’t go out so neither do I. I think it’s highly disrespect to wish our traditions to perish and it’s people like you that make people like us look bad when we retaliate. That’s not tradition it’s culture that has been embedded a lot longer than a government ever existed. Culture cannot be wrong or right, it can only be different.
If you murder my brother and justice is not served I would have no problem in killing you for revenge, we aren’t crazy. I think somebody who wouldn’t take revenge for there family is actually crazy.
That question the kid answered about the movie the kid would make, how horrifying is it when it's the basic plotline of films like Rambo?
@@iModGamerzx your lost
So very sad for little children an Mothers.
Vice taking things way out of proportions, as usual.
....and it only ends, when EVERYONE is dead, brilliant system guys...so if everyones dead, how do u know who won? Ahhh, we humans are SO smart....S-M-R-T....smart!
Blood feud is a part of the historical Albanian patriarchal society. The albanian society structure is ancient, equal to the society of Homer’s time where «blood, oath, honor, food, guest and revenge» are main principles. We have been able to maintain our laws despite 2000 years of struggle, independence, invaders etc etc. We call it «Kanuni» and it means «law». The word is said to be ancient greek, but its true meaning can be explained in albanian «Ka-nu» which means «one who ties it, ore one who puts it». The reason it’s called Kanuni I Leke Dukagjinit is because Dukagjini was the first to gather these centuries of oral laws into a written code of structure. This part of albanian culture may seem brutal, but back in the days, it was relevant. Our culture is also very beautiful. Just up until these last decades, life was hard for albanians. We are the true indigenous inhabitants of the Balkan peninsula. All south-slavs, at least those who live close to our borders and the Adriatic sea, share a certain degree of blood with us, because they are either assimilated or they’ve mingled with the slavic invaders who entered The Illyrian peninsula(The word Balkans is turkish). In This beautiful region, lived the children of Pelasgians; namely Illyrians(means free) Thracians and Dacians, people of the same origin and heritage. the remains of these ancient people live today through the albanian people. There is plenty of proof from respected historians who can confirm it.
Vardous Corvinus Scanderbeg Lol its Ottoman Turkish (you can say arabic too because Ottoman Turkish is highly influenced by arabic) Magnificent Sultan Suleyman was called Kanuni Sultan Suleyman by Ottomans because he regulated laws and rules.
In Albania it's called the (kanoni I Dukagjinit) Canon of Dukagjin, which is an area in the north and the last name of the man who supposedly was the first to write the rules down.
very intressting
We can all talk but only ones who lost their children due to murdering can understand this subject
I'm from north Albania and this law still continues but if you get caught you will get send to jail
The only person who “deserves” to die for murder is the murderer. Not innocent children or family members. It’s barbaric and inhuman. Only a monster would do that.
For the woman at the beginning, it's "kaah-noon", not "canon"
Holy shit that first guy is such a badass
its funny i speak russian and i dont need subtitles cuz i can understand almost everything they are saying
I'm balkanian and it's the same thing fir me when i hear Russian, slavic languages are all extremely similar it's fascinating
sitting home during 'quarantine' with tv's freedom to walk my neighborhood, work on my computer makes me realize how good I have it. No blood feud keeping me in, just incompetent government bickering -
Almost the same here in the States, the blood feudal in The Ozarks, between 2 Clans- Hatfield & McCoys I believe...
W.Virgina & Kentucky
As for the Albanian version and application of the Canon/Blood-Feud, the children and women must be spared from the conflicts.
This is how it was back when Balkan men were men.
It is not possible/understandable that children face this type of conflict when they are children.
There's a saying in Albanian that goes "much come to this world as male, but few die as men". This is an exemple.
It's not the albanian "version", we albanians created the Kanun. Its ours.
"Canon" is a camera. The Kanun is Albanian only.
You know jack $hit about us pal.
And if u kill a women it’s equal to 7 men. They can kill up to 7 men of you’re bloodline and than can considered dept paid.
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@@Christian_-mt6dd Albanians didn't create anything, mate. They came from Caucasus around 11-13th Century. First writing in Albanian language is as recent as 17th century. Albanians are some type of Khazars. That's why they don't look alike anyone else in the area. However, they do look alike with people from Dagestan and around areas in Caucasus. Same big heads, same type of hair, same red-skinned color (except those Albanians who mixed with Turks) etc.