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- LIVE COURT CAM: MA v. #KarenRead - DAY 12 - Testimony continues in the murder trial of Karen Read. Read is accused of murdering her boyfriend, Boston Police Officer John O’Keefe, whose body was found in the snow outside of another Boston officer’s home in Canton, Massachusetts.
Prosecutors allege Read hit O’Keefe with her car and left him to die in the snow. But Read’s defense team says she never hurt O’Keefe and that she is being framed by the true killers, who may have been inside the house where his body was found.
00:00:00 MA v. Karen Read Day 12
00:28:28 STATE WITNESS #31: JULIE NAGEL, Friend of Brian Albert, Jr.
00:33:55 STATE WITNESS #32: TERI KUN, FORENSIC SCIENTIST
01:25:49 STATE WITNESS #33: RYAN NAGEL, BROTHER OF JULIE NAGEL
02:32:04 STATE WITNESS #34: HEATHER MAXON, RYAN NAGEL’s GIRLFRIEND
03:00:16 STATE WITNESS #35: RICHARD D'ANTUONO RYAN NAGEL’s FRIEND
03:41:21 STATE WITNESS #36: ALLISON MCCABE, COLIN ALBERT'S FRIEND
06:22:38 STATE WITNESS #37: COLIN ALBERT, BRIAN ALBERT'S NEPHEW
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00:00:00 MA v. Karen Read Day 12
00:28:28 STATE WITNESS #31: JULIE NAGEL, Friend of Brian Albert, Jr.
00:33:55 STATE WITNESS #32: TERI KUN, FORENSIC SCIENTIST
01:25:49 STATE WITNESS #33: RYAN NAGEL, BROTHER OF JULIE NAGEL
02:32:04 STATE WITNESS #34: HEATHER MAXON, RYAN NAGEL’s GIRLFRIEND
03:00:16 STATE WITNESS #35: RICHARD D'ANTUONO RYAN NAGEL’s FRIEND
03:41:21 STATE WITNESS #36: ALLISON MCCABE, COLIN ALBERT'S FRIEND
06:22:38 STATE WITNESS #37: COLIN ALBERT, BRIAN ALBERT'S NEPHEW
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5:09:24 court resumes
06:20:28 Allison said, "He (Colin) was not at the house WHEN JOHN WAS THERE" - quote. So, John was there.
@@Kaykay-nn8ydthe pig dna puts John inside the house …. Dr Scott stills case comes to mind.
Woman found deleted at bottom of stairs, only dna they find comes from a pig. It took a while before the police found out their dog always had a pig ear to chew
Her POINT is that someone or MANY saw OJO THERE, and it’s being covered up!!! Oh please!!!
@@Kaykay-nn8yd Tf is my point? It's HER point, not mine. How does she KNOW when John was there? Hmm? How does she KNOW if his body and Colin weren't on the property at the SAME TIME? Oh, I know. BECAUSE SHE TESTIFIED that Colin wasn't there WHEN JOHN WAS THERE.
Yes...he was outside with KR in car, not physically in the house.
Another one. Do people twist things the way the want the. Twisted ? Like a defence team.
She said he wasn’t there when John was. Time stamps know this to be fact. There wasn’t 2 cats out front when she picked him up were there ?
‘Collin was not at the house when John was there.’ 😳. Then tearless ‘tears’. WTF?
I love the we are harassed comment. As if your family hasn’t harassed the entire Town for the past 50 years
Colin doesn’t remember much but he remembers 12:10 🤣🤣 interesting!!!
I love when these “kids” get pressured and mad they say angerly say nope
How can allison McCabe say that Collin wasn't there when O'Keefe was at Albert home , when everyone is saying they didn't see O'Keefe at that home and definitely didn't see him in front of home being ran over by who they are accusing.
cross examination of the FORENSIC SCIENTIST was amazing
He remembers brake lights from 2 years ago, but when asked if he talked to his sister about their mom picking her up he says “ it was 2 years ago” funny how that works huh?
Kind of like all the Alberts remembering the exact order everyone came in and left and who was there and where they sat but they don't remember anything else from that night
@@December2013 at this point unless there’s a smoking gun yet to be unleashed it seems like Read will be found not guilty by reasonable doubt. That entire canton police force along with all the people involved need to be investigated. There’s no way they’re that inept to the the point they make inspector clouseau look like Sherlock Holmes
Visual memory is superior to auditory memory.
Ryan Nagel confirms the Feds are watching. This hearing is just the opening act not the main attraction.
This hearing (??) Do you mean the trial?
The Feds have been looking in to all this and obviously found nothing so far. Seems that investigation will go nowhere and everyone is getting hyped up over nothing as usual.
🍿 😎
@@nobaddaze The Feds have been on this case so long….if something was going to happen it would have by now. Dream on people that are getting hyped up for nothingness 😴 💭
@@user-ji5gz5fu3g
You're not looking forward to the liars having their day in court? When they are exposed?
I think that the defense HAS ALREADY PROVEN REASONABLE DOUBT, and frankly, that’s their only job. It’s up to the Commonwealth to prove guilt, and they haven’t done that! Jurors aren’t idiots. If we see through the lies and inconsistencies, they do too!!! THAT is the point!!
Thank you for having common sense
Yeah I have no doubt. Others might. We know what’s coming. The defence are trying to play twisty. It doesn’t work on me but may work on others.
Trial isn’t even halfway through so of course the case isn’t proven yet… there’s still a lot of evidence to come. This is why a jury isn’t allowed to deliberate until the entire case is presented… you don’t get to just watch the first 1/3 of the trial and then say “not enough evidence.”
You have it backwards lol. Reasonable doubt is what the defense has to inject into the commonwealth’s case. The prosecution is the one who has to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt.
Pig DNA? Reminds me of the Dr. Scott Sills trial They found pig dna on her but they found out her dog loved pigs ears
Lol yeah sure. So are you saying that pig would be shown but not dog ? Haha. More like he had bacon cooking at it spat as it does.
@@stevenprice6957if a dog had eaten a pig ear, holding it with his paws and then scratched someone you would find the pig dna before the dogs
@@casey5683Ridiculous. Fairy stories. More like he cooked bacon at some stage or pork. That is not a dog scratch. It looks as though it’s the glass that’s also. Made out of plastic that has crashed on impact and gone into his arm. That’s what I think.
@@stevenprice6957lol. Talk about ridiculous. Arm Injuries twice the size of the whole glass( shattered or in one piece.
@@stevenprice6957 Not a “fairy story” real life DNA transfer. Having no comprehension of how something occurs doesn’t make it an improbability. Learn that.
I’ve never heard this many prosecutors witnesses, in Any trial, saying ‘Can you rephrase that?’ Talk about being ‘coached’! And every prosecutor witness looks at Lalley when the defense asks questions on cross to see if he is going to Object! This is insane!
That’s bc you have no experience in trials or examining witnesses. The times witnesses have said that, is bc the question wasn’t clear as worded. Witnesses are always told- by both sides- if you don’t understand a question, ask to repeat or rephrase the question. It’s a standard ground rule.
@@brandybiscoff9685 you couldn’t be more Wrong! I used to work for a District Magistrate, you know, the First Court Defendants are required to attend! So, come again?
Gives them time to think
@@brandybiscoff9685it’s because they’ve been “prepped” and they were prepped if they need time to think they ask that
I had to give a deposition once and my lawyer told me to look at him to verify whether he would object or not prior to answering questions.
Wow! Who knew you could change the date and time!!?? I just tried it. Thank you Mr Ianetti!
I tried but no dice there. I cannot change mine. Maybe because it’s an older phone.
Screen shots are easy to manipulate too with photoshop or a photocopier and an exacto knife
What’s the most said words in this trial? *Objection sustained*
The best time to notice a damaged brake light is at night when the brakes are being used.
Yeah Well I’m sure the 3 people behind knew that there was going to be a dead man a massive trial that night. They just knew the car was running. Karen among her 4 or 5 different stories said that she got there dropped him off and then sat out front for 10 mins. More like she sat with him for ten minutes before killing.
@@stevenprice6957 or she waited for him to text her and say it was okay to come inside.. and she never got a text and got mad and left because he was jumped on his way in by a jealous and drunk Higgins in the basement… and the Nagel sister came out to her brother through the door by the basement but how did she go back in? Or was Karen’s dome light on because her passenger door was open because John was standing next to the car talking with her still?
YUp and at night you’d know!!!
@@stevenprice6957when the tale light cover is broke the lightbulbs are Clear. They only show red because the cover is covering them. If broken it would have shunned bright white especially in the dark!!!! Without covers they would look like headlights maybe deemed
No other cams on the block captured any of this??
MR. LALLY NEEDS TO SPEAK UP! ugh, he is so hard to hear and one of the witnesses asked him to speak up twice. Judge has never asked him to speak louder but has asked more than one to speak into the mic. Judge has also reprimanded some on defense side for answering “yup” or “mhm”, but not once to anyone on prosecution side. Same thing for “Don’t say what you heard, but what actually happened”…she is one sided. She is always rushing the defense and shutting down important questions.
Seems like Mr Lally doesn’t know what a microphone is!!! 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Who "Aunt Bev" Albert's family friend?
I just can’t with this Judge she is so rude and unfair
@@redsassyfox1912Completely biased.
I feel she’d biased but I haven’t decided who I’m believing yet!
Why on earth can they not quieten that courtroom down! Ridiculous. Sniffing ,coughing , banging, sirens, trucks. Offering the coughers a lozenge might help.
“He’s bound to mess it up.” …before Ricky takes the stand… who? What? How?
He said "I was bound to mess it up" referring to Ricky's last name. Prosecution and defense struggled multiple times to say his last name. Hope this helps 🙂
@@mandyb3509 but it was several seconds after he already said it. The whole name. And I get the impression that they never saw Karen driving from the direction that they claim she came… That was all fabricated to make it seem like Karen pulled up to the house from that side and a three-point turn was made after she dropped off John… But in reality she came from the other direction, those three kids in the car never saw her at that intersection, and Karen made the three-point turn before pulling up to the front of the house and letting John out of the car. Which is another reason why Jen McCabe wanted to get all of the messages from that girl that was getting picked up so she could create her perfect little scenario.
They got the q-tips for the dna swab from the same neighbor cop that gave them the red solo cups
I don't mean too laugh but you're right 😂
😂
Yes its funny how the dna came back as a pig and he was murdered at a policemans place Hmmmm the mind boggles
He keeps saying “ to my acknowledgment “…….🤣🤣🤣🤣
All these witnesses have attitudes on cross
They’ve kept pretty good control of their attitudes, but any attitude on cross is easily explained by the fact that they’ve been brutally harassed for 2 years bc of this case by people like you, and much worse.
@@brandybiscoff9685
Evidently, you’re not watching the same trial
They all had attitudes their tone changed the way they came across with answers changed. They were very short.
They had attitudes with the defense and the jury will see that. Only two people only two people have reported being harassed. is a difference when I say all the witnesses have attitudes meaning all of them
When you talk about harassment your sidebar Ing something else that has nothing to do with anything because it was only two not all . Good try though.
@@337lonewolfyou could see Colin try to not do that bully thug body shake when he was upset. His body bent and visibly moved on the right side when he was pissed. They can put him in a button down and Henley pullover all day long, he’s a thug.
@@Hhevvy
I agree. You can see his body change between the state and the defense. And you can tell on the videos, him talking like a little thug.
When I first seen him on the stand, I had bad vibes on the kid.
How many times are gonna catch them up in a lie
It’s just funny that some of these witnesses stories don’t line up
Your attitude would change when the defense treats you like a criminal and act like your under interrogation
Is this trial sponsored by white claw?
Drinking and driving in Canton seems the thing to do, no Uber's?
Allie McUber
Why weren’t there bubbles in the text for Colin? Why is the time stamp weird? John was at the house? Hmmm… time line of everyone is off… oh the feeling of being caught in a lie and the look at me and I’ll object and the judge will sustain game… this is freaking sickening
Why isn’t it a big deal that minors are being allowed to drink alcohol? I or anyone in my family would never allow someone to drink alcohol if they weren’t 21 or older!!!
It's the Boston area, where abiding by rules is often aspirational.
Boston PD is allowing it! So it’s on them now
Cop kids cops gave it to the kids
Lol.What about all the cops? It is not like you don't know that parents buy alcohol for their minor kids.
@@maanmohammad8459doubt they bought alcohol. Not t he point
Did Alli say Colin wasn't at the house when John was?!!
Yes
Dude I heard that too!!!! 6min and 20 seconds *
No
She sure did! And in the screenshots of the text messages the date never changed from the 11:55pm msg to the 12:10am msg which I believe iPhone does automatically. Something is very off imo.
Can you time stamp it because I can’t find it
Normally when either side objects during a trial, they have to justify the objection ..... "Objection, leading. Objection, heresay" ect. This is the first trial I've ever seen where the lawyers dont have to justify their objection. Anyone know why?
I started to read comments while prosecutor asks the same 20 questions to each witness 😅 Anyway, on another day of the trial, some of the commenter's were saying the judge instructed them not to say a justification. I don't know if that's true, or why (if it is true). Hope that helps 🙂
All I can hear is Ms Nagel breathing into the mic
I know...classy right?
Breathing was elevated for sure
@@user-yy3nq8bs3yher depends may be full ya know? :). Haha
Darth Nagel
“She was alone” that proves John went into that house, they didn’t see him go in the house because he was talking to his sister
Allie "McAlbert" said Colin wasn't in the house when John was
The door is opened 😂😂😂and who opened it? Been waiting for those idiots who think theatricals and badgering witnesses will help them win the case.
Heater saying “idk” to most questions seems suss to me
Life 360 data is gonna be a major determining factor.
Gosh strike me the judge sounds like she’s being woken up w her voice lol
Who thinks the State Police dropped the ball? Innocent or guilty???
It's funny they all upgraded their phones
The year is not shown on text messages and there surely is not a comma between the year and time!!!!
I’m sure she’s a very smart witness by working in the crime lab, but it’s NUCLEAR-NOT NUCULAR!!!
Common pronunciation. It's not like she said 'irregardless' or 'should of went" etc.
It the accent lol .
How can allison McCabe say that Collin wasn't at the there when O'Keefe was at Albert home , when everyone is saying they didn't see O'Keefe at that home and definitely didn't see him in front of home being ran over by who they are accusing.
@@UNiKA_Eye_Color_InspiredMaybe it’s common, but it’s a MIS pronunciation. President Bush said it but it was wrong then too.
@@UNiKA_Eye_Color_Inspired
Lol.Or Febeuary
Lally needs to SPEAK UP HE'S LITERALLY WHISPERING COMPARED TO THE WITNESSES
Does anyone know when the prosecution will begin arguing their case?
This is the prosecution presenting their case.
@@lavondahodge8310- that’s the joke
Mr Lally needs to cut out the "sort of " and throat clearing.
He ALSO needs to accept that he's bald and get rid of that baby bird nest on his head 🐦
Colin Albert needs to read more...his vocabulary really needs some improvement
He in college yo! Pull up! :). Haha
“When John was there”
I've never seen a judge initiate so many sidebars. also since when can a prosecutor object without a qualifier??? and then the judge allow it and sustain without one! what is going on?
Maybe educate yourself on the case & then you would know. The judge ordered that BOTH sides are to object only, and not state the grounds for the objection, and that if more info was needed they would go sidebar. This is bc many attorneys (defense & prosecution) engage in improper speaking objections that can often cross the line into the attorneys “testifying.” It muddies the waters. Better to have a clean trial with clean objections.
@@brandybiscoff9685 thanks for your gracious explanation.
@@brandybiscoff9685 Maybe educate yourself on not being a nasty b.
@@brandybiscoff9685 Maybe educate yourself on not being such a total B.
People should know the grounds for objection to ensure a fair trial
What time is court starting today ?
Not a tear from the witnesses, not one, for such a close community.....
For how much these people supposedly loved John and are there to support him now. Such baloney.
Whats with the commas in the dates on the photos of the screen shots?
Jan 28, 2022,
OPPPS don't say the FED'S LOL
Sounds like she picked him up twice. But they left that out. He didn’t remember who brought him over to uncles.
6:59:28 - who is speaking when the voice says "He's bound to mess it up"?
@lissayers8901 I caught that too. I went back and looked / listened a second time. It sounded like Mr. Lally said that, the prosecution.
That was about the pronunciation of the last name.
Definitely was Lally that said that in response to whatever it was the female that sits right next to him said right before it. I listened a couple times but couldn’t understand what she said.
Try harder😂😂it was about the name because everyone was mispronouncing it The case is fine.
@@maanmohammad8459 What name were they referring to?
The prosecution team in this case has a very well-paid addition to its numbers in the person of Justice B Shouldnt-Be-A-Judge!!!! What a debacle this is! Never seen a worse example of judicial incompetence and outright bias!!! She's an embarrassment to the legal profession and should be disbarred. It's not the prosecution's fault. If they win, and they have no right to, it's due to her misconduct not their prowess or the merits if their case.
How did this even get to a court anyway?
I'm utterly baffled by the circumstances of this case. And the web of deceit and lies pervading all the prosecution witnesses' testimonies. It's quite bizarre.
I've never seen witness testimony presented to the courtroom in multiple choice format by a prosecutor 😳 wtf? Is this proper procedurally ? Judge just sits there or say to witness YOU DIDNT SEE THAT RIGHT? wtf? This whole case is such malarkey. Isn't it obvious to others too?? 🤨
I'm sure you're with the crocodile boy camp attacking the judge.But in fact you gave her credit if you're paying attention to when she asks the question herself.
@@maanmohammad8459she’s phoning it in. Come on.
So Colin goes around back how does Ally see him get into the building 🤷♀️
The girl sitting beside JOk's brother, looks so like KR they could be related xx
Does anyone know where one could get an audio only live version of this feed?
Just don't look at the screen, bot. You're on youtube, there is sound.
@@consciousmachine4138 Alright, then tell me how to play it in the background.
"i dont remember" the Alberts
Doesn’t matter if they didn’t see John go into the house, they already said he wasn’t in Karen’s car when they left
🎪🎪🎪There are so many unnecessary interruptions in this case!!! The attorneys object and approach the bench constantly! The judge rushes the attorneys and wants to take breaks more frequently than is warranted.
The outcome of this trial will be very interesting, to say the least.🤷🏻♀️
Colin never mentions bumping into his aunt Nicole on the way out of the Albert house. I feel like I would have mentioned that.. neither he nor Ally mentions that Nicole and Brian Sr. were home when Ally picked up Colin. Isn’t that what Nicole said? So if Colin was coming outside when Ally was there, shouldn’t they have all been in the driveway at the same time? How did Nicole not know who picked up Colin?
Wow! I did not know about changing date/time on a photo/text! (I’m 65 not a tech savvy 20 something). Yianetti is absolutely correct! I just changed a photo I took today to 15 months ago!😳
Why didn’t defense redirect after she says When John was there??!
Because everyone heard her say it and the point was made. No need to give her an opportunity to “explain” what she meant. I’m sure it will be noted for closing arguments. They may even quote it.
@@JB-ge7vc Good point
06:20:28 I know! Why?
@@Kaykay-nn8ydnot manipulation, reasonable doubt 🙄
@@Kaykay-nn8yd She’s a witness for the prosecution so it’s not a defense tactic. She said he was there and the defense can now use her statement. The defense doesn’t have to prove a theory either. The only thing they need is reasonable doubt which the prosecution continues to help provide. So far, there has been zero evidence that Karen hit John.
Just got a community violation for quoting something in the trial. Looks like I need to report the video where I quoted it then haha😂😅
Would a forensic deep dive into an iPhone be able to unveil the date/time a photo/text was originally taken/sent? I’m amazed at how everyone on the Albert side ‘upgraded’ their phones🙄
I bet they can if it tells you everytime the screen goes from horizontal to vertical and vs versa
I feel like doubt has been established based solely on the number of people drinking and driving to and from their house that night. Jeez.
Prosecutor says bound to mess it up prior to next witness
Was John O'Keefe's arm itself swabbed as he could had his sleeves pulled up when he received those marks on this arm. I do that all the time myself with long sleeves if I get warm.
Lol Try harder
@@maanmohammad8459nah the examiner didn’t even send clothing to the dog dna person
In uk we call the police pigs- funny the police presented a swab with only pig dna on it🤷♀️😂
4 hour break already?? Didnt she just step up and start court. What's up with that????
I really don’t like this defense attorney at all. I hope she’s guilty because of him and his harassment of Jennifer McCabe. Look man it’s simple, she told you she did it from the start. All this questioning is just a distraction!
Oh stop … you hope someone goes to jail bc you think the attorney is mean?? Lolloo omg that’s not how it works
I thought John wasn’t *at* the house
It always astounds me when educated people say 'nucular' 🙄
God bless you. That was killing me. George w. Bush flashbacks.
This judge is extremely biased
So Mr. Albert, is part of the police force but he had underage drinking at his house? Was he charge with supplying a place for minors to drink??
So the prosecution can mention how the defenses motion to preserve Alberts phone was denied, but the defense can't mention a lab tech failed her qualifications when the DNA chick said she assumed the crime lab knew what they were doing? That seems balanced
Canton is a drinking town 😂
The time stamp on her message!! It’s missing. What a bunch of liars
Ally with crocodile tears just screwed up and said Colin wasn’t at the house when John was there
Brian was not at the house when John was there .Everyone saying John wasn't there noone seen him !
Brian or Colin? Sorry I’ve not made it that far
What proof has been given that anyone was in the basement?
wow, caught!
One thing I was always envious about was how cops’ kids were always able to drink underage!
It’s eleven days in and I’m so confused with this case. I’m trying to keep up with the witnesses’ statements but the witnesses are all out of order. They keep asking about before and after the incident. What are they claiming that she did? Was she drunk driving and hit her boyfriend? Did she purposely hit him? Were they arguing before the incident? What was the purpose of the expert statements about the dog and pig DNA? And if I hear one more witness get on that stand and smack before every answer, I’m going to just quit watching altogether and just wait for the verdict.
Oh my god, this is the key witness
She is a decent actress. Notice how she rarely looks at the Jurors during all questioning.
Except cue the "The Door has been opened, ill allow it" questions on harassment. She then looks directly at the jurors and wells up some amber tears (no tears). The staring at the jury along with the facial expressions and the "Cant I have a moment" was well played buy her and I think she scored points with the jury.
Of course no door was really opened for it. But that does not matter if you have biased Ref/Judge
This has been the most boring court case ever.. Dragging on and on.. I won’t be surprised on how fast the jury come back with a verdict… 😬😵💫
Who's the guy with his head down and a hangover sitting in front of the judge everyday? .... tax dollars at work.
That's the guy who swears people in lol
@@christinab3019 I think the whole damn town is hungover and drunk,WTH
@@christinab3019yesterday he said all rise after the judge was already standing about 40’seconds, he said it loudly, and made her jump a little and she shot him the dirtiest look. lol.
Who is the man seated alone behind Karen Read and Alan Jackson ?
Another one that got ride of her phone just like the other ones same answer they up graded there phones.Her phone is in the dumpers with the other ones.
Why don’t Collin or some of the other young witnesses have the Boston accent?!
They live in Canton, not Boston
We all know that the lab only receives The swab to be tested and the do not watch who does the swabbing. Next question Defense...
Can I just say one more time I really dislike this courtroom set up...
Can't wait for Karen to take the stand ...
She already did and screwed herself up.
She did?? Do you know which trial day she took the stand
@@dimitrastamos2222
Of course she didn't.But doing an interview on national TV is as good as taking the stand.
God you are annoying
Collins was in the house go look at his knuckles. Lying like all the other ones.
2:59:24
“He’s bound to mess it up.”
I have an IPhone, didn’t know I can change time of a text message 😊
6:20:29 “He (Colin) was not at the house when John was there”. John was at that house. Being on the lawn is not being at the house. I’m sure she would’ve said “outside the house” to clearly differentiate he was not inside.
Speak up!!!!!
I think the actual impact of John's loss of life would be greatly more impacted by videos of him!!! Why arent there ANY VIDEO'S OF JOHN O'KEEF
mr lally be red
“Not at the house when John was there” so John was there? Which is it!?
@@nonsense289 06:20:28 No, not delivered. She said "He was not at the house WHEN JOHN WAS THERE" John was there at the house. Her words "JOHN WAS THERE." Don't try and twist plain English.
@@nonsense289yes she meant John was there. At the house. End of story. The Feds know all this anyway, this case is just a sideshow. Expect indictments
@@nonsense289did she say in the house or at the house ? I mean you and I know he was at the house right ? He was found dead there? Lol
@@user-cd9yl2qd1uYeah so we all know he was at the house yeah? We know what time too. What’s your point ? The only twisty here is you. He died there. He was out front there. He was at the house. Colin wasn’t. As if he could beat up a copper anyway. Geez he’s a little tacker. 17 years old. Against a big fit copper. Haha
At the house doesn’t mean dead in the front yard
KR def gonna have a stiff neck after all these side bars.