What If Lebron James Only Played 15 Years Like Mike?

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
  • A more direct comparison of greatness is to see what was accomplished in the same amount of time. In this video will talk about what Lebron James accomplished in his first 15 years compared to Michael Jordan's15 year career. Let's talk about it...

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  • @bigcheese6794
    @bigcheese6794 Месяц назад +101

    MJ really only played 13 Full season's

    • @trutru9018
      @trutru9018 Месяц назад +12

      That's why we need to do the amount of games comparison. Not the amount of seasons.

    • @PIP...33
      @PIP...33 Месяц назад

      @@trutru9018 ALSO REST 6 YEARS WHILE OTHERS GETTING FATIGUED. MJ IS NOBODY TILL HE PLAY 10 IN A ROW

    • @TashaOneal-l8h
      @TashaOneal-l8h Месяц назад +13

      ​@@trutru9018it don't matter MJ is the 🐐

    • @heathobrien356
      @heathobrien356 Месяц назад +7

      LeBron only played one full season, all 82 games. MJ, 9 times

    • @drk.i.a.2969
      @drk.i.a.2969 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@heathobrien356mike misses 5yrs over 480gms quiting with no injuries as the reason..those are the real#'s...😅😅..yaw live in make believe wonderland.😅😅

  • @JoseIrizarry-k7g
    @JoseIrizarry-k7g Месяц назад +149

    I’m 55 years old and for me this debate never existed everything is propaganda for Lebron legacy and millennium fans believe all lies they said,this is not good for basketball

    • @dienauto4087
      @dienauto4087 Месяц назад +1

      @@JoseIrizarry-k7g I'm 45, it all started with MJ as the GOAT. He acts like humble but he thinks he is the GOAT. Now it's Bron, soon another player...

    • @nicolasurrieta7335
      @nicolasurrieta7335 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@dienauto4087im 47, i agree with you. But if you are really the goat...dont you have at least the right "to feel" that? Dude is humble about that. Isnt that enoughf? HE IS. What about if he, in his last games, crowned himself like an asshole? Its so embarrassing

    • @BarryMemphis
      @BarryMemphis Месяц назад +1

      Thank you my man. Finally. Iam 10 years younger, and all those fanboys dont have a damn clue what they are talking about. They even go so far, trying to make a case for LeBron over MJ, saying Jordan left twice 😅, i was like, what? Where did he go? Respond was, well he left twice.
      The mental gymnastics are olympian gold material.

    • @dienauto4087
      @dienauto4087 Месяц назад +1

      @@nicolasurrieta7335 Muhammad Ali felt that way, he was the best and he said it , you see?

    • @dienauto4087
      @dienauto4087 Месяц назад +1

      @@BarryMemphis MJ was not that good that long, which is unmatched for Bron. It's more impressive to sustain elite than 6-0 in the finals...Scottie Pippen 😄

  • @Ohhhmyyyygaawwd
    @Ohhhmyyyygaawwd Месяц назад +88

    Anyone who has been a fan during both eras knows there is no comparison.

    • @PIP...33
      @PIP...33 Месяц назад +1

      YEAH WILT IS GOAT BIRD BRON. IF MJ LUCKY HE WOULD BE TOP 10 BUT HE IS JUST BRADLEY BEAL 35 PPG 1 STAT PADDER. ILL TAKE DONCIC OVER HIM NOW. 32 PPG 11 APG 8 RPG FAR BETTER THAN ANY JORDAN

    • @TashaOneal-l8h
      @TashaOneal-l8h Месяц назад +5

      ​@@PIP...33you mad LBJ is overrated

    • @thecall0ut
      @thecall0ut Месяц назад

      @@PIP...33 Your mommy must be proud that you've graduated to a casual bronsexual fanboy. Congrats!

    • @mikebird5148
      @mikebird5148 Месяц назад

      @@PIP...33 your BP must be super high because you are salty AF

    • @Venomous_000
      @Venomous_000 25 дней назад

      ​@@PIP...33doncif doesn't even play in an era where dribbling rules are enforced.
      You PRETEND to be a Pippen fans to reduce MJ and put wilt at top (all time stat padder) then another , actually the GREATEST all time stat padder..
      But out Wilt first, caus just like your name, trying to hide your real agenda and intentions.
      You're a SNAKE

  • @maroonmedia2000
    @maroonmedia2000 Месяц назад +31

    I played this video, went to bed and listen to it
    Then came 18:40 , you read MJs turnovers and right after that Lebrons and you said Oh my goodness and laughed
    I was instantly awake and laughed for like two minutes
    Thank you for yor extraordinary content and humor.

  • @GtheGreat1
    @GtheGreat1 Месяц назад +36

    Thank you for continuing to debunk this fake goat debate 💪🏾

  • @reyleondelaselva1789
    @reyleondelaselva1789 Месяц назад +88

    People that "think" Lebronski is the GOAT never saw Jordan play and RUclips highlights don't count.

    • @Jahk-mode876
      @Jahk-mode876 Месяц назад +9

      Facts

    • @Jimmyd134
      @Jimmyd134 Месяц назад +17

      Or never dribbled a basketball. It’s Literally people that play madden.

    • @andrenelson4595
      @andrenelson4595 Месяц назад +3

      THANK YOU! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

    • @sttrsp9700
      @sttrsp9700 Месяц назад +8

      man even his highlights show you how much better he was, lmao.

    • @2playschemeo.p.croutes724
      @2playschemeo.p.croutes724 Месяц назад +7

      @@sttrsp9700 MJ’s highlights and back story is what proved him to be the GOAT. I didn’t see him play in his prime. Didn’t even know he had 6 rings or anything. But as soon as I did my research I was convinced. MJ is Goat

  • @verholdt
    @verholdt Месяц назад +32

    Imagine the stats if you called LeBron’s travels, carries, and offensive fouls.
    Oh and if you were allowed to play defense against him.
    He’s nothing. No bag. Game doesn’t pass the vision test

    • @DC-ml6cv
      @DC-ml6cv Месяц назад +6

      Ya his title runs are sus af. Ft deferential is insane. Why people don’t talk about that is beyond me

    • @starsesay5521
      @starsesay5521 Месяц назад +1

      At all!

    • @michaelcambridge1542
      @michaelcambridge1542 Месяц назад +3

      Facts!! Crazy traveling violations not called. All time leader in turnovers!! Got swept in 3 different decades. 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @PIP...33
      @PIP...33 Месяц назад

      @@michaelcambridge1542 GOT 3 RINGS IN 3 DIFFERET TEAMS TOO. BRON PROVED HIMSELF 2007 WHETRE IS JORDAN 2ND ROUND IN CAREER ?

    • @michaelcambridge1542
      @michaelcambridge1542 Месяц назад +3

      @@PIP...33 Look at the nicknames! Air Jordan and Leflop. Which one sounds better?

  • @Flexonem3
    @Flexonem3 Месяц назад +38

    Michael Jordan didn't play 15 years an we have to start being honest even for LeBalco. Jordan played 11 seasons a little over 11 in Chicago. 1986 he played 18 games 1995 he played 17 games. 1995 was not a full season. Even the years LeBalco was hurt or acting that's not a full season he played about 20 on the court or close to 20. Jordan career was small compared to most so was Magic & Bird.

    • @Blackmask212
      @Blackmask212 Месяц назад +2

      Yeah to be fair if they played atleast 65-70 games that's a season but I agree less than 20 games nowhere near a season.

    • @Toinemc
      @Toinemc Месяц назад +2

      I say less than 40 games isn’t a season. Mainly because there’s 82 games in a season.

    • @Toinemc
      @Toinemc Месяц назад

      PREACH!!

    • @brandonhaymon3000
      @brandonhaymon3000 Месяц назад +4

      Michael Jordan played 15 years stop it.

    • @dee5076
      @dee5076 Месяц назад +2

      MJ started playing in the NBA in 1984 and retired in 2003 for the final time

  • @seanswinton6242
    @seanswinton6242 Месяц назад +116

    Efficient means doing more with less. Michael Jordan clearly has done that while LeBron James has not. Jordan was also more successful while costing his teams less money. That's Efficiency!

    • @rigch83
      @rigch83 Месяц назад +3

      Pippen Rodman Paxton Kerr is less?😂😂😂

    • @moresomoze
      @moresomoze Месяц назад +1

      Lolol becaus3 all players got paid less. Great point haha

    • @dominiquejones3805
      @dominiquejones3805 Месяц назад +3

      In comparison 2 Wade,Bosh Irving, Love,Ray Allen, Shump,AD,Rondo,Westbrook etc​@rigch83

    • @noleyestoad4477
      @noleyestoad4477 Месяц назад +3

      @@rigch83 Pippen was the only allstar MJ played with in the bulls dynasty runs Rodman and pippen are his only teamates on the top 75 list! now go look at LEBRONS HELP! that list doesnt end

    •  Месяц назад

      Bull Man Get Out Of Here

  • @arsendragon79
    @arsendragon79 Месяц назад +36

    You had me at fanboys click off! 🤣🤣😂

  • @jlshine17
    @jlshine17 Месяц назад +81

    This was never a debate. Lebron had PLENTY of opportunities to surpass MJ but he failed period. He’s been the GM pretty much, has jumped from team to team, opted to play with his hand picks of elite players, and has many rule changes to aid him in his career. Yet he STILL COULD SURPASS MJ. Now in an attempt to tear down MJ’s dominance, he hangs his hat on longevity because at this point WHAT ELSE DOES HE HAVE?
    Jordan is the GOAT, lebron is a good player sure but the goat he is not! Anyone who thinks he is has no clue about basketball

    • @Toinemc
      @Toinemc Месяц назад +2

      @@jlshine17 PREACH

    • @ChadMukina
      @ChadMukina Месяц назад +3

      Im with you til you say, he's a good player..
      Not. He is not a good player. Not even a has been.
      Other than a free lay up or dunk, what's the LeBron move. Whine to the refs or flopping.
      Never been the best player on a Championship winning team. Wade, Kyrie, Davis are all hands down better and more reliable than this bum.
      Worst player on Olympics, and they gave him the MVP that they invented for him in 2004, but he lost, so they got rid of MVP until they new they could steal it for lebum.
      Lebum would not have made it a decade in a real mans NBA like the 80's n 90's. I can't speak about anything before that I didn't get to watch it. Live.

    • @drk.i.a.2969
      @drk.i.a.2969 Месяц назад

      Hummmm, whose the GOAT of SCORING? theres only 1..LEBRON JAMES..sorry kids thats how FACTS..work..not your wishes..& stupid theories hell they just made up bs. No matter how you slice it MIKES THE GOAT OF QUITING 5yrs 400+ gms..with no injury...noone in history of any sport did that..😅😅..but yaw don't remember or stuck on ....😅😅. By the way it all happened. Hell Issah whupped his Mikes butt 2yrs straight for rings!!😅😅..bird 3xs😅😅 magic 5x..😅😅. All FACTS!!😅😅 sorry human worshipers. Dude let kids kill for his fake bball shoes..1st ones horrible to play in. Yaw got me hating on jordan with yaw kid like worshiping.

    • @Toinemc
      @Toinemc Месяц назад

      @@ChadMukina PREACH

    • @AndrewTaylorJr
      @AndrewTaylorJr Месяц назад +1

      End of story right here

  • @RDJCisneros-uf2vi
    @RDJCisneros-uf2vi Месяц назад +270

    *NO ONE BELIEVES THAT A MARATHON RUNNER IS GREATER THAN A 100 YARD DASH RUNNER THAT HOLDS THE RECORD FOR BEING THE FASTEST MAN IN THE WORLD, MICHAEL JORDAN GETTING MORE TITLES AND STATS IN 15 SEASON'S THEN LEBRON JAMES NOT GETTING CLOSE TO MJ'S IN 21 SEASONS IS SHAMEFUL WHEN PEOPLE THINK LEBRON IS A GOAT🥴* 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @MorrisBrown-t9p
      @MorrisBrown-t9p Месяц назад

      Now put that in y’all’s pipe and smoke it
      PREACH

    • @standup3686
      @standup3686 Месяц назад +34

      That's a very good way of looking at it. Accurate too

    • @LetsTalkAbout1125
      @LetsTalkAbout1125 Месяц назад +29

      Very good analogy

    • @32poppasavage28
      @32poppasavage28 Месяц назад +42

      And how he choked vs Dallas getting out played by Jason Terry is automatic disqualification. Not to mention he is no where near as skilled as Jordan.

    • @godsoulsukmadewa
      @godsoulsukmadewa Месяц назад

      There is actually a website where you can compare both individual stats in their first 15 seasons. You can type in google like LeBron vs Jordan 15 season or something like that.
      That if you want to see how they fare individually, statistically.
      About their rings, well ring is more of team achievement. If rings is an indicator, with your analogy Bill Russel is the fastest man alive. About their individual awards, it have many factor like how their competition, how their game impacted their team in the league and public opinion.

  • @birdman423
    @birdman423 Месяц назад +17

    A video where actual stats are being presented and yet some commentors are calling it lazy, but then again if they did their own research they would still be disappointed by their king, just like children you gotta drag them to the truth kicking and screaming and pouting. Great Video @UnCommon Cents.

  • @raingeart1
    @raingeart1 Месяц назад +16

    James fans click off at the free-throw comparisons 😅🤣 this keeps getting worse

  • @anthonystevenson830
    @anthonystevenson830 Месяц назад +26

    Just like today nobody would care. Barely winning championships, meaningless stats and no impact on the game.

  • @patsongbandith7757
    @patsongbandith7757 Месяц назад +55

    LeBron Fans’ new narrative is to leave things out. Some of you might have already seen some of this.
    Ex: “LeBron has 4 Ring, 4 MVP, and 3 Olympic Gold.”
    Notice they will leave out LeBron’s 6 Finals Loses and his Bronze Metal.

    • @andrewmauney3082
      @andrewmauney3082 Месяц назад +8

      And also him missing playoffs his 1st two seasons and missing playoffs twice with Lakers

    • @davideaston8314
      @davideaston8314 Месяц назад +10

      Don't sell LeFlop short... it's 2 bronze medals and he's king of turnovers (by a loooonng way!!) lol

    • @jsain360
      @jsain360 Месяц назад +9

      ​@@davideaston8314he got those bronze medals by losing to plumbers 😂😂😂😂

    • @davideaston8314
      @davideaston8314 Месяц назад

      @@jsain360 😂

    • @patsongbandith7757
      @patsongbandith7757 Месяц назад +5

      @@davideaston8314 That’s true. I was just speaking about the Olympics and how LeBron Fans will leave some of his accomplishments out to make him look better.
      LeBron’s Metals are 3 Gold (08, 12, 24) and 1 Bronze (04) in Olympics, another Bronze (06) in FIBA World, and a Gold (07) in FIBA America.

  • @seanswinton6242
    @seanswinton6242 Месяц назад +35

    As far as games played, LeBron James began to milk his seasons in the years following season 16 playing fewer. Then you have yo account for LeBron James' laziness on defense to pad his numbers. LeBron James runs up his scoring on weak teams and sits out tougher teams making it easier to raise his points per game averages! LeBron James did all of this with a 3 year headstart on Michael Jordan. I like your number crunching here! You didn't even include LeBron James' flop points! This is clearly perfect evidence for the Klutch owned number manipulator Nick Wright! Great work! 👏 👏👏

    • @jsain360
      @jsain360 Месяц назад +6

      Don't forget him staying in during blow outs to get his numbers

    • @PIP...33
      @PIP...33 Месяц назад

      @@jsain360 JORDAN PILE UP 1 STAT ONLY AT LEAST BRON DOMINATE IN 3 OR 4. ANYONE CAN AVERAGE 35 PPG BUT ONLY BRON WILT OLAJUWON ADMIRAL CAN DO MULTIPLE THINGS. JORDAN IS BRADLEY BEAL 1 STAT PADDER

  • @CraigNinham-cc9cd
    @CraigNinham-cc9cd Месяц назад +7

    I truly believe if LeBron played in Jordan’s era he’d be a good role player at best. There are many players from Jordan’s era that would have eaten LeBron alive 👀🏀

  • @chill6789
    @chill6789 Месяц назад +15

    $ makes mofos lie about anything
    how can mofos say the overrated deer, is one of the greatest, top 2 or top 5😂
    the deer ain't top 10
    his career is built on hype, paid shills, balco/ peds, barreling down the lane and crying for fouls

    • @DC-ml6cv
      @DC-ml6cv Месяц назад +1

      Ya curry has him beat in my book, by a long shot. He actually changed the entire NBA as well

  • @Blackmask212
    @Blackmask212 Месяц назад +53

    Thank you this debate is non existent it isn't real. LeBron shooting 50% is because he scores mostly in the paint outside the paint he's equivalent to clogged toilets.

    • @Jahk-mode876
      @Jahk-mode876 Месяц назад +3

      😂😂

    • @MrComputertrends
      @MrComputertrends Месяц назад

      This is why 90s heads are mentally ill. They didnt understand 3 is more than 2 and 2pts is 2pts. Fg% is very important. As well as shot attemps...

    • @jsain360
      @jsain360 Месяц назад +12

      Peep this, he didn't start shooting 50% until the NBA put in the freedom of movement rules

  • @NinjaSpittingTruth
    @NinjaSpittingTruth Месяц назад +41

    Its just vasketball....its just vasketball. I use to support KD and LBJ til they both changed teams and talking like they were "him"
    You guys are the goat of bailing when it gets tough.

    • @noleyestoad4477
      @noleyestoad4477 Месяц назад

      facts i always thought KD was better than Bron but they both some cowards! Bron started the weak team hoping and KD followed along 2010s basketball was terrible from 2016- current

    • @allaboutcash439
      @allaboutcash439 Месяц назад

      ​@noleyestoad4477 Bron did not start the team hopping. Players been doung that since the 70s. Also, he wins on all his teams. Please...

    • @NinjaSpittingTruth
      @NinjaSpittingTruth Месяц назад +3

      @@allaboutcash439 Smh. Players in their prime were team hopping?

    • @noleyestoad4477
      @noleyestoad4477 Месяц назад

      @@allaboutcash439 Lebron James was in his prime along with dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh they were all in the same draft class 2003 All were top players on there respective teams which were all playoff teams! when they did this they killed 2 playoff contenders! Superteams from yesteryear were never formed under those circumstances player either got drafted and developed into stars while playing with greats or great that teamed up well past they prime playing years! Lebron and them started that weak teaming up as top players in they prime that was corny!

    • @allaboutcash439
      @allaboutcash439 Месяц назад

      ​@noleyestoad4477 corny ?. U funny. What is the diff between a team grouping up star players or the star players joining a team on their own. Players have more power and they should use it.

  • @mfnjuke
    @mfnjuke Месяц назад +73

    The 15 seasons comparison is still lacking context. When comparing 1072 games, which Jordan played, Jordan has over a 3,000 point gap. Like 32,000+ to 29,000+. Also, if you take away the season Jordan got injured, he only missed 7... SEVEN games in his Bulls career!

    • @PIP...33
      @PIP...33 Месяц назад

      JORDAN MISSED 450 GAMES. SHOW ME 10 YEARS INA ROW OR HE IS NOBODY

    • @McFrappin
      @McFrappin Месяц назад +5

      ​@@PIP...33Lies, he only missed 7 games excluding the 86 injury year.

    • @noleyestoad4477
      @noleyestoad4477 Месяц назад +3

      @@PIP...33 i dont get what the point of trolling like this is!

    • @noleyestoad4477
      @noleyestoad4477 Месяц назад +2

      MJ the only modern day player to crack 30 pts in under 1000 games nobody else has done it yet!

    • @brianharron3435
      @brianharron3435 22 дня назад

      But took way more shots lol

  • @d.c.thirtythree7752
    @d.c.thirtythree7752 Месяц назад +13

    Great video, this is my exact argument to LeBron fanboys.

  • @jordanjenkins1671
    @jordanjenkins1671 Месяц назад +60

    If LeBron played 15 years but got as many regular season stat titles, rings, MVPs, FMVPs, DPOYs, and All-Def 1st teams as MJ, we'd have a more interesting GOAT debate.

    • @ricardolozano5356
      @ricardolozano5356 Месяц назад +17

      lebron would have 3 championships jordan had 6 after 11 full seasons with the bulls

    • @elviraf3497
      @elviraf3497 Месяц назад +1

      This guy is too slow in explaining and counting the negatives. LBJ got a record every time for being the youngest to get 29,000, 30,000, etc…. Of course whom you want to give the goat title, you only choose the categories that will make your choice the winner. No reason to continue this debate. Each debater chooses his category, no standards. Let the NBA establish a standard.

    • @Toinemc
      @Toinemc Месяц назад +6

      @@elviraf3497 seems like your category is making up fake stats. Stop watching Nick Wrong, Shannon Sharpe and Gilbert Arenas. It’s like the blind leading the blind…

    • @Tane-u9b
      @Tane-u9b Месяц назад

      ​@@elviraf3497please can we agree to disagree and appreciate the two dynamic superheroes in the NBA universe
      Superman is not better than Batman just because he's Super...
      Depending on who u ask

    • @MarcisBold
      @MarcisBold Месяц назад +4

      I don't think it matters what LeBron ever did
      If you saw them both play you know who's better

  • @Al.j.Vasquez
    @Al.j.Vasquez Месяц назад +6

    Keep in ming, Lebron in his 15th season was younger and had played alongside more HOF and All Stars then Mike.

  • @AdamsGuitarsAndCases
    @AdamsGuitarsAndCases Месяц назад +35

    Let's be real and bring it down to 13 seasons. I'd like to see all the numbers and how far Above mike is in everything lol. Not that 15 seasons would be a huge difference but it definitely would make lebron look much more average like he is :)

    • @HailKingCeezer
      @HailKingCeezer Месяц назад +1

      1k games basically

    • @BarryMemphis
      @BarryMemphis Месяц назад +1

      Thats the thing. If you take only those years, Michael reached the playoffs every single season. And guess what he won 6 times. Thats close to 50%. Talking 'bout efficency or what 😅
      He the Jesus of Basketball for real. Think about it. Its more or less the same. They saw him in his youth, prophesized that he will be the one at a certain time, then he came, enlightened the world of Basketball, then he left and is the benchmark of what that is all about 😅

  • @faronanderson2536
    @faronanderson2536 Месяц назад +11

    This is a great comparison to see the bigger picture.
    Just his Chicago Bulls career alone, 13 years.
    There's nothing but daylight between Michael and the rest. It's not even remotely close. It's actually close to being disrespectful and insulting to the way Michael Jordan approached the game.
    👍🏽.

  • @whartonarseino8849
    @whartonarseino8849 Месяц назад +10

    MJ played 13½ seasons
    He missed 64 games in the '85-86 season and he also missed 63 games in the '94-95 season.

    • @ArsonOnTheTrack
      @ArsonOnTheTrack Месяц назад

      It wasn't even a half....more like 13 and a sample

  • @marcusalexander5251
    @marcusalexander5251 Месяц назад +11

    I challenge James to walk away from basketball for a year and a half and come back to win a championship.

    • @Mister.Patterson
      @Mister.Patterson Месяц назад +1

      I challenge him to even win another championship altogether lmao

  • @ShellShock-xt1jp
    @ShellShock-xt1jp Месяц назад +12

    So basically he only played 13 seasons which make him even better

  • @courtneyphillips7837
    @courtneyphillips7837 Месяц назад +6

    LeBronSexauls hate facts

  • @swandaley
    @swandaley Месяц назад +29

    Can't wait for the comparisons to Magic, Bird, and Russell. They're probably the three most efficient players outside of Jordan.

    • @maroonmedia2000
      @maroonmedia2000 Месяц назад +1

      Russel averaged career 14 PPG so not Russel

    • @PIP...33
      @PIP...33 Месяц назад

      @@maroonmedia2000 JORDAN FANS ARE DERANGED. MAGIC CANT SHOOT NEVER CARRY A TEAM JUST LIKE MJ NEVER DID. RUSSELL IS 39% FG WORST FOR ANY CENTER IN HISTORY. MJ NOBODY WITHOUT PIPPEN.

    • @maroonmedia2000
      @maroonmedia2000 Месяц назад +1

      @@PIP...33 you mean Pippen who averaged 10 points per game his first two seasons with MJ? 🤣🤣
      Then MJ made him an all star
      🤣🤣

    • @PIP...33
      @PIP...33 Месяц назад

      @@maroonmedia2000 BASKETBALL IS NOT PPG ONLY. U mean jordan who never had 16 rpg like jordan or any season double double. who gusarded shaq ? jordan or dennis ?

    • @PIP...33
      @PIP...33 Месяц назад

      @@maroonmedia2000 just like made stackhouse from 30 ppg a bench guy and kwame and 16 years hornets. jordan makes no one better. Jerry 30 ppg before jordan ruined him. Selfish ppl dont make others better Hooernets 16 years no playoff kwame brown bust. MJ cant even make better his golf club.

  • @TheDocmike23
    @TheDocmike23 Месяц назад +10

    In reality jordan played 13 full seasons!!!!! Most accolades all Time.most 60+ teams beaten in playoff...etc unmatchable

  • @chill6789
    @chill6789 Месяц назад +10

    I guarantee the paid shills are going to make a big deal how the deer has played 21 seasons and doesn't have that many fouls ( another irrelevant point), because the refs let the deer constantly get away with fouls

  • @arsendragon79
    @arsendragon79 Месяц назад +18

    This efficiency crap... look at how many LeBron dunks are on no one at the rim. Then watch Jordans. LeBron's career has been extended dueto everyone wanting to be Steph Curry. Centers included. none of them are in the key anymore, they are all trying to jack up 3's. Imagine Jordan had that space to do his work!? lol He would avg 50 on 2's.

    • @arsendragon79
      @arsendragon79 Месяц назад +5

      Steph Curry is the most influential player of Lebrons career. MJ was the most influential of his own. That is enough for this bullshit debate to be over.

    • @doktor3196
      @doktor3196 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@arsendragon79it'll be fun how much people will not talk about this the minute he retires.

  • @USSOBRIEN
    @USSOBRIEN Месяц назад +7

    How can someone score & average more in lesser time, but still have a lower field goal percentage? That math ain't mathin! See, they want to talk about that DPOY award (when Jordan clearly earned it by setting records for rebounds & steals), Lebron's stats needs to be double checked. With what we know now about Klutch Sports, I wouldn't put nothing past them.

  • @mrkareem75x68
    @mrkareem75x68 Месяц назад +7

    the more years for LeBrick = more asswhoppings and early exits

  • @marylewis9599
    @marylewis9599 Месяц назад +6

    WOW WOW, What A Valid/ Powerful Show, and All True Facts, Uncommon you out did yourself with this Very Effective Show. Greatttt, because After All It's Just Basketball 👍👍💯

  • @gabrielw7773
    @gabrielw7773 Месяц назад +7

    Fan boys can do more than just click off. Tell you one thing Leflop got the minimum wasted effort down pat. More like no effort. The more the numbers of everything are broken down according to time, the more and more MJ separates himself. Clearly, MJ is the ultimate GOAT.

  • @xjpcmedel
    @xjpcmedel Месяц назад +9

    Any pure scorer that play 70 games every year for 20 yrs. with 30% playing defense and score 30 in every game doing layup/dunks can stack up 42,000 points.

    • @michaelcambridge1542
      @michaelcambridge1542 Месяц назад +4

      Don't forget playing in a cottonball soft era...all those uncontested wide open trash lay-ups and dunks.

    • @noleyestoad4477
      @noleyestoad4477 Месяц назад +1

      @@michaelcambridge1542 exactly the paint was open for bron his whole career! this why his FG% is deceptive its all layups and dunks that got him to keep his avgs high he dont shoot middies its all drive and kicks if he cant get to the cup further you push him out his percentages nose dive!

    • @michaelcambridge1542
      @michaelcambridge1542 Месяц назад +1

      @@noleyestoad4477 his numbers are all fudged. Smh. Disgusting.

  • @noleyestoad4477
    @noleyestoad4477 Месяц назад +3

    I tell people this all the time! go look at all that players that cracked 30k career points and then look at how long it took them to score the points MJ is literally the only modern era player to do it in under 1000 games thats just ridiculuos when you know for a fact that man retired 3 total times from the league! we never gone see nobody hoop like that again MJ was different!

  • @JoseIrizarry-k7g
    @JoseIrizarry-k7g Месяц назад +3

    LeBalco is the King 👑 of turnover

  • @hakeemolajuwon4352
    @hakeemolajuwon4352 Месяц назад +4

    You can't score 500-1,000 less points a season and think you're more efficient because you have .9% better FG percentage! That's why Curry isn't an efficient 3p shooter cuz he's taking 800+ threes a season and still missing 58% of them!

  • @Ace.of.Rage.
    @Ace.of.Rage. Месяц назад +6

    If its broken down like this, it's hard to make a case for Lebron

    • @noleyestoad4477
      @noleyestoad4477 Месяц назад +1

      its facts it aint no breakdown! these aint opinions

  • @NoSheepMentality
    @NoSheepMentality Месяц назад +3

    Player efficiency rating goes to Jordan

  • @RichardHoare-k3p
    @RichardHoare-k3p Месяц назад +3

    Michael Jordan is and will always be the greatest of all the.... HANDS DOWN.....😊

    • @inefekt
      @inefekt Месяц назад

      Right now he still is, that much is obvious. But one day there might come along a player who averages 35/10/10 for their entire career, wins 7 MVPs, 2 or 3 DPOY, 8 rings and 8 Finals MVPs. He might be able to run the 100m in 9.9s and jump +8m while having all the grace and finesse that Jordan had. He might end up with 50k career points and break every record. And if he does that all with humility and respect....well, the whole world will be crowning him the greatest of all time.
      So....never say never 😊

  • @trunnardwashington7140
    @trunnardwashington7140 Месяц назад +6

    Do a comparison with LeBron James and Karl Malone

  • @paulusrumanouw3176
    @paulusrumanouw3176 Месяц назад +5

    Note that MJ only played 12 seasons without major injuries, or just slightly over 13 seasons worth of total seasonal games.

  • @MALLYGEEZ1
    @MALLYGEEZ1 Месяц назад +2

    If you go by lebron playing the exact same number of games MJ played, 1,072 games. Lebron
    points, 29,413
    Rebounds 7,860
    Assist 7,338
    Steals 1,831
    Blocks 867
    Turnovers 3,623
    Fg% 49.4
    3p% 34.0
    FT 74.7
    +/- +5768

  • @50ThousandWatts
    @50ThousandWatts Месяц назад +3

    The more you look deep into the numbers of his career you really see how overrated he is and how he’s not even close to Jordan

  • @runpoint13
    @runpoint13 Месяц назад +2

    If the having the most points with 5 Rings and 5 MVPs wasn’t good enough for Kareem to be the GOAT when why would it apply to LeBron?

  • @ThomasClark-q1w
    @ThomasClark-q1w Месяц назад +5

    This is sad about the NBA

  • @Daveyboy_GolfR
    @Daveyboy_GolfR Месяц назад +2

    Mike actually only played 11 full seasons, which is where he had his 10 scoring titles, 11x total points leader, 5 MVPs, 6 FMVPs, and all-time leader in regular season, playoff and finals PPG. He accomplished far more than LeBron in those 11 seasons then LeBron's 21 seasons

  • @markxvan
    @markxvan Месяц назад +2

    I appreciate the work you do to prove that MJ is the GOAT, BUT (wishful thinking here), it would be so much fun to watch MJ and LeBron in their respective primes play each other! I remember so many times MJ dismantle teams for the sheer joy of winning. LeBron doesn't do that. I don't think he ever could. Mentally, he isn't a destroyer.

  • @sonnynguyen9103
    @sonnynguyen9103 Месяц назад +2

    If you looking back at the 4 rings that lebron won. There’s not one final that you could say that he carried the team in the championship game. If it wasn’t for Ray Allen and Kyrie making those clutch shots, we might be talking about lebron failure with 2-10 record.

  • @LuisRamos-tz8tk
    @LuisRamos-tz8tk Месяц назад +2

    Let’s not forget that MJ really played more like 13.5 seasons.

  • @dappa3ten
    @dappa3ten Месяц назад +2

    👏🏼 👏🏼 bravo. Great content bro. Let the media try to swallow all this facts.

  • @michaelbautista5803
    @michaelbautista5803 Месяц назад +2

    An employee who accomplishes more in less amount of time a fast learner and a way more efficient employee. An employee who has not improved any of his/her weaknesses in 21years is a poor employee.

  • @TheJesseGladSaget
    @TheJesseGladSaget Месяц назад +2

    "In 15 seasons, Michael Jordan had 2,924 turnovers; in 15 seasons... oh my goodness"
    LMFAO

  • @Journalz
    @Journalz Месяц назад +2

    6-10 Kingdumb! How’s it going, Subjects?

  • @nasirghadaffi5811
    @nasirghadaffi5811 Месяц назад +2

    Two of MJ years were less than 20 games, MJ is the GOAT!!!

  • @gundamu-on3pj
    @gundamu-on3pj Месяц назад +4

    Reminding LeChokesexual that your GOAT stands for “going on another team,” or “greatest on acquiring turnovers.”

  • @RichardHoare-k3p
    @RichardHoare-k3p Месяц назад +2

    MJ is the GOAT.....SIX RINGS.....HANDS DOWN

  • @twentythreeforlife
    @twentythreeforlife Месяц назад +2

    Great comparison. About 1,000 more missed free throws and over 1,000 more turnovers are staggering numbers.

  • @dominiquejones3805
    @dominiquejones3805 Месяц назад +1

    Never was a debate 4 me

  • @_gw33do_
    @_gw33do_ Месяц назад +2

    Jordan > LeBron
    Never a debate.

  • @RaymondPatrick-s3y
    @RaymondPatrick-s3y Месяц назад +2

    Mike also had almost a full season out with a broken foot

  • @frankiegonzales4712
    @frankiegonzales4712 Месяц назад +3

    Mj Goat forever

  • @janstapaj9689
    @janstapaj9689 Месяц назад +7

    MJ basically played 13years..

  • @TonyMontanaMIYAYO
    @TonyMontanaMIYAYO Месяц назад +2

    LeBron James FANBOYS do not know anything about engines🤣🤣🤣🤣 ..let me break this down in FANBOYS understanding…FANBOYS if you order a LeBron James nightlight and a LeBron blanket on Monday and the nightlight was delivered Wednesday by UPS and the blanket was delivered 5 years later by Fed Ex who would you say is the better company???? YES FANBOYS MICHEAL JORDAN is UPS🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @armonistephens7521
    @armonistephens7521 Месяц назад +3

    ESPN spends more time talking theory and what ifs rather than just facts. It's almost like their job is just to glaze

  • @troydilworth8789
    @troydilworth8789 Месяц назад +1

    💥FANTASTIC BREAKDOWN 👏🏿
    Averages don't lie!!!

  • @mccraejoey82
    @mccraejoey82 Месяц назад +2

    And jordan took like 4 years off

  • @taylormatuauto1103
    @taylormatuauto1103 Месяц назад +1

    Labron’s points are padded points 😂 wide open layups and wide open dunks 😂 that’s how he gets points 😂 because he CANT! I mean he CANT shoot 👍!!!

  • @ohmowens57
    @ohmowens57 Месяц назад +2

    Lebum will end his career with the most turnovers and missed field goals of any player ever and he has ruined the National Basketball Association!!!

  • @kingnaldo4058
    @kingnaldo4058 Месяц назад +3

    Michael Jordan only played 13 seasons, 11 with Chicago and six championships, and 2 years with the Wizards.. Let that sink in...🤔

  • @bigkw1568
    @bigkw1568 Месяц назад +1

    You are leaving out the part about the Cupcake Defense in today's game .. Think Bron could handle the Bad Boy Defense ?? LoL Let the Worm guard him .. MJ is the GOAT

  • @ceciljustice7283
    @ceciljustice7283 Месяц назад +1

    Uncommon you did a really good job on this take of comparing MJ to LeBron
    LeBron James during his first 15 years average 27.15 points per game
    31,038 pts in 1,143 games.
    Michael Jordan on the other hand has averaged 30.12 points per game throughout his 15 years
    With 32,292 points adjust 1,072 games

  • @JenniferBaker-c4h
    @JenniferBaker-c4h Месяц назад +1

    Bird 13 Seasons. Three Titles Three MVPs. Wouldve been more had it not been for Magic playing the same Era. Dont get me started on Magics Flowers. One is Mike. Two is Larry Three is Magic. Bron Top 15

  • @dienauto4087
    @dienauto4087 Месяц назад +2

    But he did play 25 years 😂

  • @johnnystewart83
    @johnnystewart83 Месяц назад +1

    Too bad, he didn't. " LeBron James is the ATLS " 💯 All-time leading scorer!!!!!!

  • @BruvahSulaiman
    @BruvahSulaiman Месяц назад +1

    Having your 6'9 SF play like a PG is inefficient. You don't want your SF to be the all-time leader in turnovers.

  • @noleyestoad4477
    @noleyestoad4477 Месяц назад +1

    MJ IS THE ONLY PLAYER IN THE MODERN ERA TO CRACK 30k points IN UNDER 1000 GAMES!

  • @lakititi2005
    @lakititi2005 Месяц назад +1

    People trying to push Lebron's longevity stats narrative because he has nothing else. Here's the thing though, Jordan was so good that he hasn't even won his second three peat yet and he had already eclipsed Kareem (who had MVPs, chips and longevity stats) in the GOAT discussion while today, Jordan has retired 20 years already and Lebron, despite all his longevity stats, still hasn't surpassed MJ.

  • @sebaztionabsolution
    @sebaztionabsolution Месяц назад +1

    thing is LEzesty ramone shames dydnt play jus 15 seasons lyke the actual goat as he continues 2 play knowin he is an absolute liability on both ends of the hardwood @ 89. pos chumps knows we comin for those balco rumors, but let him keep playn 2 tarnish his career even more. its jus basketball after all.😅😅😅😅

  • @chazzx1018
    @chazzx1018 Месяц назад +2

    Imagine MJ didn't walk away from the game. His numbers would be way better. He didn't really have love for the game. His greatness was natural.

    • @tejaybe_sensei
      @tejaybe_sensei Месяц назад

      He did have love for the game. He just liked to gamble. And did other sports for his dad. A better comment would have been, mj didn't play the game for stats. He played to win.

    • @chazzx1018
      @chazzx1018 Месяц назад

      @@tejaybe_sensei sucked at baseball. Shouldn't have left those 2 years. Should have stat padded, therefore leaving no wiggle room in generation arguments.

  • @greywolf4784
    @greywolf4784 Месяц назад +2

    another thing about efficiency. jordan's perfect finals record vs lebron's losing record in the finals.😂

  • @tchadlisantos8471
    @tchadlisantos8471 Месяц назад +1

    Michael Jordan played 13 years,
    85 played
    86 injured OUT
    87 played
    88 played
    89 played
    90 played
    91 champion
    92 champion
    93 champion
    94 retired
    95 retired
    96 champion
    97 champion
    98 champion
    02 wizards
    03 wizards

  • @nw7133
    @nw7133 Месяц назад +1

    Efficiency does not equal FG%. MJ scored much easier with less than 5 dribbles than Bron did dribbling the air out of the ball. When you take FT into account then his FTM weren’t as efficient either. What is more efficient is winning. MJ led his team to 6 titles in 15 years and Bron only win 3 in first 15 years but even worse he lost 6 Finals in first 15 years. What a BS narrative to sell when it is factually known as a straight up lie.

  • @miltonvonahnen6225
    @miltonvonahnen6225 Месяц назад +1

    If anyone wants to debate the all-time scoring list look at MJ's minutes he has the least amount of minutes for everyone who has 30,000 points or above and was the only member that got to 30,000 points with less than 10,000 minutes played if he plays 20 plus years surely he could have broken the 40,000 points mark!

  • @kdawuni
    @kdawuni Месяц назад +1

    The arguments made in this video are specious, ridiculous and not rooted in reality or flat out delusional. You have to take their careers and not creat parameters that benefit one over the other. You can’t use Jordan’s metrics and want LeBron to match that, they’re different individuals. Jordan’s feats were great for the time and had never been seen before and that’s what made him great. LeBron has also.achieved feats that are unprecedented and that’s what also makes him great. If Jordan could have done what LeBron did why didn’t he? LeBron can also not duplicate what Jordan did because he’s not Jordan. What Jordan fans do is use Jordan’s best feats and require everyone to fit into that, so what about people like Kareem and Wilt or Russell? Kareem, Wilt and Russell had feats that weren’t matched eg Russell has the most rings , Kareem 6 rings 6 MVPs all time leading scorer 3 ncaa championship why isn’t he the standard? If LeBron shoots a higher percentage than MJ, he’s more efficient it’s simple math, also LeBron will have more turnovers than LeBron because LeBron handles the ball and runs offenses common sense.

  • @nydibs
    @nydibs Месяц назад +1

    Lebron playing longer is only hurting his legacy. Besides the bubble ring he has done 0 with the lakers over 6 seasons, missed the playoffs twice, made it through the play-in 3x. And he’s not even the best player on his team, AD is clearly the best player on the lakers

  • @Joshuta
    @Joshuta Месяц назад +1

    Lebron James stats are mostly opportunity rather that outperforming expectations

  • @kaksmirknight5318
    @kaksmirknight5318 Месяц назад +1

    3 NBA titles all with super teams 1 from shortened season in the softest era of NBA. 5 NBA finals losses. Wow! He's not a top 30 NBA greats of all time.

  • @ramosangelo77
    @ramosangelo77 Месяц назад +1

    I never thought lebron was ever an efficient player because efficient players are clutch lebron fades in those moments

  • @GhostbustersPhone8489
    @GhostbustersPhone8489 Месяц назад +3

    I've never thought of it that way. LeBrat may have won 2 or 3 Championships within that 15 year time frame. He wouldn't have came anywhere near 40,000 pts. I have a feeling that the LeBozo Fan Boys would still be in the process of saying LeBron is the GOAT.

  • @philiprobiso9507
    @philiprobiso9507 Месяц назад +1

    It should not be the greatest scorer for Lebron, it should be the greatest athlete in taking care of his body. 😂😂😂😂

  • @dwaynedennis8086
    @dwaynedennis8086 Месяц назад +1

    I Love This Question.
    This Question
    Makes It Make Sense!
    The Goat and the Donkey!

  • @beamerandmercedesthebully3111
    @beamerandmercedesthebully3111 Месяц назад +1

    Quality vs quantity is the debate here… 1 corvette will always be better than owning multiple Hyundais

  • @dev30
    @dev30 Месяц назад +1

    Lebron is more efficient in losing in the NBA Finals than actually winning!