It's because it gets them engagement/views. That's the only reason people say stupid sh*t. This is all on purpose. They don't even believe half the sh*t they say. Nick Wright, Cowherd, Perkins, Gilbert "racist" Arenas. All of them, liars.
All I’ll say is Jordan had the highest viewership and LeBron had the lowest viewership. There is absolutely no excuses for the 2020 finals to average less than 8 million viewers per game. It’s sad they couldn’t even get to 10 million viewers on average
Never let the fact that there was only a few channels then, no social media, no youtube, no streaming. If you wanted to watch live sports, you only had one choice. If you wanted to watch TV, you had very few choices. Just think, not too much earlier than when Jordan came about, Happy Days was averaging 60 million viewers.
@@davidbergerson bro stop it lol, I’ve seen this argument dozens of times and it doesn’t hold water. People aren’t actually watching LeBron’s games on these platforms and it’s not being accounted for. They are going on social media and RUclips to watch a 5 minute highlight reel, check stats, and see their favorite talking head calling him the goat. Lebron is king of the casuals that don’t watch full games or appreciate/understand the game.
I don’t need anybody’s opinion on how great MJ was. I lived in Chicago. I watched this man play. There had never been anyone like him, and there hasn’t been since. There have been some close seconds (Kobe) and some new originals (Curry) but Jordan’s career was a literal story book. And it’s almost all on film. He’s the one guy who you never get tired of watching.
Kobe was not a close second. He was a poor man Jordan. Kobe's career(the last 5-6 years) at the end was painful to watch and people nowadays seem to just give him all the undeserved credit due to his tragic passing. Penny was more talented and well rounded coming in the league and we never saw him peaked due to injury. Same with Grant Hill that's far more promising as a young player than the current crops of so called superstar. But for the most part I agree with you ( not that you care and I respect that).
@@blipblip Agreed. What us Gen Xers need to be doing is revisiting our era and putting it into context. I have, but I see there are few of us who have, and I don't see it getting any better. I overlooked the 80's in my youth, now I watch as many games on YT I can find, it/they were better. Kobe and Steph are just narcissistic bootleg versions of Jordan and Nash. I think Vince had the opportunity to be the closest thing to Mike, but Vince ushered in this new era I'd see throughout millenials, this like, half high vibe, way too comfortable on the court vibe. I personally knew things in the culture had changed when I'd see kids walking on the court in flip flops and little string back packs.
@@ricardolozano5356Its better to accumulate a 40% winning percentage on the gms largest stage by being swept / gentlemen multiple times with HOF talent... than accumulating an 100% win percentage ONLY in the form of 3-peats... without a single gm7... LeBrons 🥩 munchers have the IQ of a rock 😂
Why is it so difficult for this new generation to understand that MJ was a damn generational talent that was leaps and bounds ahead of the times. Every generation has an athlete like that in sports. Gretzky, Bonds, Messi, Ronaldo, Tyson, Mayweather, etc. These athletes pathed the way for the next generation, I'm so sick of the slander.
For nick Wright it's because he wouldn't have a career if not for gassing up lbj and slandering mj. Unfortunately that's how many pundits get their work. The formula is have one pundit support the mj and the truth and the other be ridiculous to make the fringe casuals more interested and piss off real fans. Young fans tend to be very ignorant and they want to belive they are seeing the best ever
They have been told that athletes evolve and are getting better all the time, so it's understandable that they wouldn't be willing to accept that a previous great could compare to their current generation great.
@craigjohnston5781 I feel like anyone who took biology at any phase should understand that evolution doesn't happen to a species in like 30 years. Unless it's life cycle is very very very short
@mysteriouspartyguy lol, basically. That and everyone from major networks to YT content creators regurgitate the same tired lines "bigger, stronger, faster" and "today's players are more skilled than ever". Despite neither of those claims being backed by any kind of facts or evidence.
The fact that these lebron fans are questioning jordans career let's you know they are running out of excuses. From the competition, to he couldn't go left or the entire era he played in was watered down. Pathetic!!!!
@anthonystevenson830 here's the common denominator of all of this and it's kobe bryant and here's why last time I checked when LeBron james couldn't get it done in the 2006 fiba world cup and they lost to Greece who colangelo call to save team usa? Kobe bryant. from 07-08 to 10-11 they was the first real goat debate between LeBron vs kobe right yeah LeBron james won multiple league mvp and during that time he put up better number but who led their team further then the other with less help? Didn't kobe beat the teams that LeBron james lost to? especially when the cavs were favored to go to the finals. I never thought he was better than kobe let alone jordan
@jimmycharlotin7050 when kobe saved lebron in the Olympics and beat that same boston that ran lebron out Cleveland for kobe to win his 5th ring proved who was the better player.
@anthonystevenson830 exactly bro you know embarrassing it is when people you won championships in your such as Kyrie irving, Kevin love and Chris bosh has high praise for kobe than LeBron james? Kevin love said I'm taking kobe over LeBron simply because whenever kobe bryant came to Minnesota tickets sold out in minutes, but you tell Shannon sharpe or nick that statement they'll deny it
Dude watch the games! Not highlights and interviews of 90s players. I’ve seen games in the 90s and its so fucking overrated especially defensively. Its not even close on what the players and the fans been saying😂
@@TheInternationalJew-vn4bn bro the difference is the players ability to shoot not defense.😂 back then only shooting guards and centers are the primary scorers that explains the average score you’re arguing🤣Defense has always been the same. Same schemes same coverage someone can argue that defensive schemes now is better cos its a positionless game and everyone can guard. the league may have changed the officiating but the changes they’ve made during MJs era is much more than 2000s til date. Let’s be honest, NBA favored MJ, even 80s players said so. Let me say this again. Watch full games and tell me aim wrong 🤣
@@rapmolina3768 I used to watch when i was a kid then when my kid turned into 8 we started to watch again from the 1984 playoffs (not only Bulls' games) now he is almost 13 and just finished 1998. We simultaneously watched the 2019-2024 playoffs aswell. It is fkn easy to see that from 1984-1998 the defense was way tougher!!! It is just so fkn obvious that it is not even a comparison. Today is just almost nonexisting comparing to the 80s and 90s not because players dont want to defend, rather the refs doesnt let them do anything what they could have done in previous eras, while in the same time they let all the players get away with travels, carries, and many offensive faults, gathering steps also gave them a legal 3rd step but they many times let them do even 4-5 steps without punishing them. You have to be a highly hypocrite person to deny these facts. And when you say "Dude watch the games!" I am sure already that actually you are the one who didnt watch those games. And i am pretty sure you only watched highlights about the 80s-90s in which they cherrypicked some pretty rare situations when there were no defense, and you believed those were common things. In short: YOU start to watch the 90s games!!!
LeTrash James is what happened to the game of basketball! Him and his cronnies destroyed the love of the game and made it a damn soap opera about an unskilled steroids using pos basketball player
Right? Yet today's players that are SO superior aren't even close to Stockton's record - which by today's standards would probably be closer to 20k than 16k!
@Iceman24424 They soft and weak minded. They get triggered easy and go on weak rants on social media. its all the mindset and privilidge now thats runining these kids Likeness and entitlement
I haven’t even see Mike “live”.. as the NBA wasn’t possible for us (my household) to watch back then.. I was introduced to Basketball trough a friend of my father who lived in the US, he would sent videotapes 📼 to us.. didn’t even knew what basketball was at the age of 10/11.. it looked cool tho.. even then, with my lack of knowledge on the game.. I could feel and sense.. there was something different about this guy. The only reason why I wanted to visit the states was to see him ball out “live”. Unfortunately.. never happened.
It's Nick "Klutch me Harder LeBron" Wrong. Nick is allowed to believe LeBron is the GOAT. I'm not one who gets offended that someone thinks LeBron is the GOAT. I don't but fine. Nick's insane fixation on destroying and diminishing MJ at every turn makes him disgusting. Skip Bayless goes way overboard about LeBron but he's a troll. Nick has many good takes but when it comes to LeBron vs MJ he becomes less sports commentator and more boo defending her baby daddy. Dude literally brought in high school and college accolades to push MJ to 3rd on his top NBA list that by any metric justifies ZKarerm at #1 but removed that criteria so LeBron didn't also have to be judged by them. Not to mention he literally has some nasty dig at MJ even we hen it's completely uncalled for.
When defenders argue "Ratings/viewership is lower because there's more things to watch nowadays" I always respond with "In other words, people would rather watch Mr Beast videos than LeBron James playing basketball" 😆
All of the 7 lowest NBA Finals viewership ratings have come since Lebron entered the league... 2 of which involved Lebron. The top 9 highest-rated NBA Finals took place during Jordan's career, and all of the top 4 involved Jordan. Nuff said!
@@jordanjenkins1671facts lmaoooo it’s such a weak add argument. Aka, Lebron is the king of the casuals that read box scores and listen to opinionated podcasts about him…..not real hoops fans that watch full games and actually understand the sport and its beauty lmao
NBA Finals game occurred during the 2016 series between the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Golden State Warriors. Game 7, which took place on June 19, 2016, garnered an impressive 31 million viewers.
I would love to see someone become the new greatest of all time. But it needs to be earned. No one has come close to earning that title over the goat that is MJ
@@d.columbia9603 I'm not sure we'll ever see his like again. Lots of players, before and since, have similar talents and skills. Some might even possess the drive and determination, but I can't think of anyone, outside of maybe Kobe, who shared MJ's obsession to be the best at all costs.
Theoretically it should happen, but the fact he was such a beast, and STILL, by far, the greatest single player to watch in awe. NBA players are meant to do things us regular folk can't, Mj did stuff that blew our minds. So they will have to do a much better eye test than LeBron, have the Mj killer in them, just win win win, even when you lose, like the 63 point game🤣 And then a 1000 other requirements 🥵🥵 Yeah, in theory it's even looking impossible 🤔😁
I don't listen 👂🏾 to LeBrons mouth 👄 pieces.Its easy to tell his telling them some of that B.S to say.Lebrons career is built on the back of superteams and the lemedia and the league helping him.And it's not hard to see that.
Its always interesting to think how strict traveling and carrying the ball was back then and hand checking was allowed. if the game was called like that today..players wouldnt seem so "skilled"..would they? 😂 theyd be literally forced to play by the rules and would restrict so much unnecessary ball handling, cuz coaches would bench people if they start getting all these turnovers.
The traveling was strict by today’s standards but watching that old footage it didn’t look strict to me at all, then again I just don’t pay attention to modern ball. The other thing that was crazy in these clips is what they consider assists these days, it looks harder to not get an assist now.
Nobody creats mythlogy for him. The media creates mythology for the new players to somehow be in the conversation. Jordan was so great that these kids have mistaken his actual accomplishments for the myths they use on the daily to prop up these weak super stars.
I think the game of basketball is so great because willpower and killer instinct are just as important if not more so than just skills. I personally think 80's teams would kill modern teams because they had so much damn heart and it tied in with the physicality of the game. I've seen most of the all time stars today collapse under pressure, just imagine how 80's players would mentally and physically dominate these guys today.
Thank you SmokeDog! As many have said, it really depends upon whose rules they played under... But assuming you try to neutralize that by allowing some mix of both with each side allowed time to train and adjust.... I'd LOVE to get some coaches/players responses to how players' fundamentals, skills and discipline would impact the results of 80s/90s players vs modern players matchup. Today, we can barely beat the rest of the world, and all the NBA's best players develop and train elsewhere around the globe. Modern players never get the critical college experience old school players all received to learn fundamentals. Where would Jordan have been without the fundamentals and work ethic he developed at UNC? Are we seeing that player today in someone like Anthony Edwards? I think we've seen, especially on defense, old school players would more than hold their own (what could LeBron do against Pippen and Rodman all night?)... Some modern bigs have grown up playing outside the post, and would create matchup problems. But no one today could defend Shaq or Hakeem. Modern players do have some advanced training and nutrition that would impact careers (how long could Larry Joe have played?), but not peak players' in an individual game, or playoff series...
The Chief Robert Parrish who played with MJ during his mythic 1996 Season has been taking shots at him saying his Airness couldn't surpass Bird's Celtics, Thomas' Pistons and Magic's Lakers during the 80's, hence he shouldn't be considered the GOAT: 1. Bird's Celtics had three Hall of Famers, and one finals MVP during 1979 at DJ Johnson, plus another Hall of famer coming from the bench at Bill Walton. 2. Thomas' Pistons had three Hall of Famers, and still were beaten by Jordan during the 1991 ECFS( it's BS they were passed their primes), Thomas was 30, Dumars 28, and Rodman around 30. 3. The Lakers had three Hall of Famers. Jordan had no help during the 80's, and Pippen picked during the 1991 Season. IGNORANCE IS DARING....ANONYMOUS, And the living proof goes to Robert Parrish, Jordan wasn't the greatest teammate due to his competiveness? Hell Yes, But I guess why he won so many titles during his illustrious career.
@@algladyou it comes to show you that if B.S was a valuable item in Supermarkets, it would run out quickly because the majority of people would buy it.
Pippen was drafted in 1987 from an NAIA school (like D3) and required alot of development. But Parrish was right. Jordan never beat Bird's Celtics teams in the playoffs (ever), and it took 4 (yes, 4!) very painful years to get past the Pistons. To "the Chief's" credit, he has stated on more than one occasion MJ was the GOAT. And Bird is the one, as the reigning back2back league MVP in 1986, that said MJ was "god disguised as a basketball player".
The current generation of fans, sports analysts, and pseudo-experts actively celebrates mediocrity. People consider players like Embid, Harden, and Paul George elite when arguments downplay the significance of winning championships. A recent video on Kobe Bryant highlights my point, showing how LeBron James froze against Dallas in 2011. While no one denies Jordan’s flaws, the current generation dismisses James flaws. So, it's no surprise that mediocrity is being celebrated.
Lebron got shut down by Shawn Marion and Jason Terry from the Dallas mavericks? Really? No one on earth can say that they shut down Jordan! In fact, they feared Jordan!
Jordan has something Lebron can never have, a dynasty. Jordan joined a team that had never won a title and gave them 6. Lebron has never done anything even close to that. Forget that if MJs dad hadn’t been murdered odds are good that the bulls would have ruled most of a decade lol.
Plus, Jordan made it possible for players to get paid what they do. Also, don't forget his (and his mom's) instrumental role in signature shoe deals. Everyone wanted to be like Mike; I doubt many want to be le flop.
That 80's vs. 20's montage on assists indirectly showed how padded this era is. Some of of those assists from today I was legit thinking "in what universe is that an assist?"
Thank you Uncut. Nothing like seeing actual video for proof and hearing the announcers point out different zones and defensive looks. I argue with some people that they DID use the zone back then more often than you think. They got to stop listening to Nick wrong, colon cowherd and others.
Fake DPOY? Lead the league in steals per game with 3.2!, 1.6 blocks per game as a guard, 2nd in the league with 6.1 DWS, and lead the league in DBPM with 4.2. Meanwhile, Lebron only broke 2 steals per game once in his career, most blocks per game was 1.1 as a 6’9” player, only broke 3 DBPM once in his career with 3.7. He did have a 6.5 DWS season.
That 80s and 90s had the most centers... Kareem Shaq Ewing Moses Daugherty Zo Mourning Parish Olajuwon Robinson Mutombo Smits And im leaving out a few names!!
Also when 7 Footers started playing PF. They were really C's but the League ws Stacked with 7 Footers that every PF was also a C. Guys like Webber who was 6'10 270 Sampson Garnet 7' Dirk Nowitzki 7' Gasol McHale was 6'11 with a 7'6 Wingspan James Edwards 7'0 Duncan
We all here the career stats argument, yet never about MJ played 3 years in college winning a natty. Plus 2 years first retirement and 3 more before being a Wizard. So thats 8 years worth of career stats lost. Then you look at averages against peers at thier position MJ is mainly top 3 in most Bron isnt. Bron is a much larger man plays closer to the basket yet has never averaged 10 RPG a season His calling card is acknowledged as being a passer still never 10 APG a season. He plays in an era where scoring is up by 15 to 20 PPG, with just 1 scoring champ. On defense hes had probably 5 seasons you could say he was elite. Mike had 10 scoring champs when scoring was in the 90's for a game. Scored more in an era where defense was played harder and scoring was lower. Just things to consider before having a debate on who's the GOAT. Then you have to consider is Bron even in the conversation? Yes he's a damn good player, just lacks those jaw dropping moments on a consistent basis. 6 guys I'd say are in this conversation. 1. W. Chamberlain 2. Kareem 3. L. Bird 4. M. Johnson 5. M. Jordan 6. K. Bryant Possibly G Hill and D Rose if injurieshadn't robbed them of thier athleticism To me Bron is a shorter version of Shaq. Both are above average, imagine if they had the drive of the other men above to improve and hone their game from day 1 to the end of their career what we could be saying. I feel both had more to give than playing bully ball
I don't see a lot of difference between those 80's players and players today, you'd expect a huge difference the way some guys talk about those old skool players not being skilled. If anything you had to be more skilled with how strict the rules were. That's why Jordan's footwork was so great, you'd think the average player today would have that kinda footwork but it's not the case
Jordan is the only person where the hard you look into his game the better he looks... Lebron has to make it a media fight using political tactics in order to be in the conversation becuase his resume isn't adding up
If you do not think that Jordan is, BY FAR, the greatest player ever, you are either one of two things: 1 someone who knows nothing about basketball or 2 below 20 years old.
Modern day NBA allows players to travel and carry the ball. There is 3 second rule in the paint as well. 80's and 90's basketball was more difficult and clearly a different game than today's NBA.
Lmao "it's as if he never missed a shot" smh how appropriate because MJ was the most ruthlessly machine like consistent competitor in all of sports and is probably a major reason any of these talking heads even have a job. I have never seen anyone ever come close to MJ in his ability to consistently perform at the highest level especially when it matters most. And just objectively that comment is so massively stupid like MJ averaged 50% from the field for his career so its quite obviously he missed exactly 50% of his shots which is in fact elite for a shooting guard who is scoring 30ppg for his career. Colin Cowface is the worst analyst on earth literally. If you didn't actually watch MJ's entire career you really don't have room to speak.
Jordan is the most double-teamed player in history except for possibly Shaq in his prime. What kids today don't understand is that this type of swarming, hard trap defense took the ball out of players' hands, preventing star players from putting up numbers. Today when teams try this, they just call a foul on the defense if the trap is even half as aggressive as some of the ones in this video. Thus the offensive player gets to the line, puts up more points, and this also discourages continued trapping.
That assist section gave me an aneurism wtf are we doing counting them jawns nowadays as an assist. AOH said it best: “if we’re counting those as assists, you might as well give an assist to whoever invented dribbling”
This was so necessary. Ive told people for years that the highlights are great but go back and watch a full game of him playing so you can see the makes the misses and all the highlights that got over shadowed. there's soooo much more that people have never seen. Side note: that assistant rule now is wild when you see it like this. lol Great work with the start of this series.
I'll put it this way. EVERY SINGLE GAME ON NBC OR TNT WAS A WIN FOR JORDAN!!!! AND WITH HIM MAKING THE WINNING PLAYS AND FINAL SHOTS EVERY SINGLE GAME. His National TV RECORD is literally like 400 and 0
I am NOT a Bulls fan. I WAS NOT a Bulls fan...I was not a Jordan fan, but I recognize greatness... LeBron is NOT great... At his height and weight and with the two minimal abilities he has (running and jumping) and the one VERY MINIMAL SKILL he has dribbling (for as tall as he is), he should have ACTUALLY dominated the NBA... If he had HALF the dawg that Jordan, Kobe or even Curry have, he would have for 10-0 in the Finals, gotten MULTIPLE DPOY awards, played 82 games more than just once in his career, as opposed to LOAD MANAGING all the time...I could go on and on... Jordan was, during his prime playing days, 55 pounds less than LeBron and 3 inches shorter... Played in a MUCH TOUGHER NBA (by the way, any idiot that asserts how today's NBA is tougher, can NEVER explain how it's tougher!). Jordan played 82 games (a full season) 9 TIMES in his career! That's Stockton did this 16 times. AC Green did 14 times, K. Malone & Randy Smith did it 10 times and Jordan is tied for 4th place, having played 82 games NINE times... And, of all top 10 players, Jordan has the MOST 82 game seasons in history... LeBron, once again, is larger and stronger than Jordan and Stockton and plays in a softer era of the NBA and yet, he could only manage to accomplish this feat ONCE? Even Earl Boykins, 5'5" 135 managed that!
Them 2020's assists are WILD! Those aren't even assists on NBA 2K 😂 But they had the nerve to do an entire hit piece on MJ's DPOY season and call out a few steals he (supposedly) shouldn't have gotten credited for 🙄 smh... Can someone explain to me WTF is going on?? Why is there a trend to shit on all the icons?? And I ain't just talkin hoops...
Nick wright(BUM)- jordan slacked on defense! People with at least one brain cell- you know you're talking about LeBron right! Its so pathetic, they actually give LeBron steals and rebounds he really didnt even get! According to the NBA a steal is acquired by the player that deflects/inhibits the pass not the person who actually came up with the ball! Same for rebounds the person who tips it up for a teammate to try and get it is the one who is suppose to get the rebound credit, not the person who came up with it, but yet theres SO many cause where someone deflected/ inhibits the pass LeBron comes up with it, they give the "steal" to LeBron! Same for rebounds! Lebron has more assists, steals and revounds than he actually should! His stats are so inflated!
THEY!!! Opened the pandora’s box trying to delegitimize MJ… Of course I enjoyed it…you’re exposing the standard, when you go at THEM the same way they go at Jordan. Am gonna stay tuned. Great job man, keep going 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
This how nick Wright keeps his ratings up lets keep it 💯 MJ made nick Wright love basketball he wanted to be like Mike. So all his slander has built nick Wright but he will never tell MJ to his face that LeBron is goat 😂😂😂. Please quit disrespecting Kobe Bryant R.I.P and LeBron is a SF and Pippen the greatest SF all time.
Yas! Now THIS is what I’m talking about! Thank you @Uncut Hoops! You are doing a long overdue, quintessentially necessary service, not only took your country but to the entire planet - hell, GALAXY - with this 12 part Jordan Files series. Leave NO stone unturned my man. God bless you Uncut Hoops; you are a gentleman and a scholar.
Jordan just needed to be unleashed. And when playing for coaches like Dean Smith, Mike K and others, you have to play in "their" system. That's good, but the NBA gives you more freedom of movement. Other players you can think of is Vince Carter, Ja Morant, Steph Curry, etc. In college, they didn't play the same way. You saw potential...but in the NBA, they were unleashed. Sad to make this comparison, but Lebron was unleashed in high school...and he never changed or adapted. Kobe, however, kept working and was unleashed by the time Shaq came along. Really shows how far apart Jordan is from any other NBA player to ever play the game. He came in SUPER hungry!
A supremely athletic 6’6 guard with a hang time measured in hours… coupled with 3 years of superb coaching at UNC and then with Phil Jackson was flat out unstoppable. But his biggest advantages, especially shooting… were his (very soft) hands the size of a catcher’s mitt. Simply the best player to ever lace them up.
Brilliant brilliant point about what counts as an assist in the 80s and now. That’s great analysis!!! I’ve watched games today where a player receives a pass, pauses for seconds, get into his move, and then scores and the passer gets an assist (NO WAY THAT IS AN ASSIST!!!!!!)
Who mythologized him? Bird said he was God dressed as Michael Jordan. AI, TMac, and many others have talked about the aura they saw around him. We didn't mythologize anyone. We just understand what we saw and refuse to be gaslit by paid props for Klutch Sports and others who want to make a name for themselves by trashing MJ.
I was still pretty young during the first 3peat, but I remember the Bulls beating the Lakers. I fully remember him retiring and coming back for the 2nd. I've even been to a game where MJ played the Bucks.(I lived in Milwaukee) All that said, it's not commercial propaganda, revisionist history, or nostalgia. The guy was just on a different level. He might have had an off night very rarely, but he was always giving it his all. Especially when the stakes were at their highest.
People these days haven't even watched the old NBA and players that they are criticizing. They don't even watch the NBA and players today! They just watch edited highlights and clips. This is all swirling around Lebron, and his nihilistic quest to tear down Jordan so that Lebron can take his place. Lebron hasn't grown the sport, he has burnt it down.
People act like Jordan played in 1950. Mythology lmfao we seen the dude their is tape his opponents are still alive. People that watched him aren’t dead. This isn’t a case of babe Ruth. You can watch this dude right now full games.
Nick Wright 😢 im starting to see only them Diddy party dudes stick together?
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Today’s NBA players and media are so low they need to discredit the pass. Why focus so much attention on pass players if the league is so great today? Today’s league is lacking viewership and fair officiating. So lame it needs to trash legends of the passed. It’s the ONLY major sport that looks down on its own all-time greats.
Some Coaches played Zone defense in the 80's and 90's. They would do it all the time and it was legal if they First Doubled a player hard. They could then play Zone the rest of the Play.
Those travel calls back then were diabolical. Compare that to today where some guys take 4 to 6 steps and shuffel their feet and dont get the travel calls *cough cough* Bron
Thanks for posting the video to expose all these lies. I always tell people if you actually watch the games, one will notice defenses commonly doubled, trapped, & played zone in the 80s & 90s. The key was that a player had to keep moving unless get whistled for illegal defense. Secondly, it also proves how rule changes over time makes the game easier - for example the assists & traveling. Today most assists aren't really assists, but it looks good on the stat sheet. That doesn't really bother me, but the traveling is insane.
the concerted/collective effort to slander jordan over the past few years is both fascinating and pathetic...
It's because it gets them engagement/views. That's the only reason people say stupid sh*t. This is all on purpose. They don't even believe half the sh*t they say. Nick Wright, Cowherd, Perkins, Gilbert "racist" Arenas. All of them, liars.
I feel it's a narrative being pushed; kind of like how certain historical facts have been fabricated.
It's wild. They're doing it while wearing his brand too lol
Quit riding
You deserve every bit.
The most beautiful part about this attack on MJ and the older generation is MJ hasn't felt the need to defend any of it lol. When you know, you know!
Great point!
LeBron craves the praise. For a billionaire it's a bit sad.
All I’ll say is Jordan had the highest viewership and LeBron had the lowest viewership. There is absolutely no excuses for the 2020 finals to average less than 8 million viewers per game.
It’s sad they couldn’t even get to 10 million viewers on average
Space Jam...LeSpace Jam 2
Especially with Covid being a thing and people being on lockdown.
Never let the fact that there was only a few channels then, no social media, no youtube, no streaming. If you wanted to watch live sports, you only had one choice. If you wanted to watch TV, you had very few choices. Just think, not too much earlier than when Jordan came about, Happy Days was averaging 60 million viewers.
The last dance got higher ratings than that Mickey Mouse bubble shit. MJ will never be topped
@@davidbergerson bro stop it lol, I’ve seen this argument dozens of times and it doesn’t hold water. People aren’t actually watching LeBron’s games on these platforms and it’s not being accounted for. They are going on social media and RUclips to watch a 5 minute highlight reel, check stats, and see their favorite talking head calling him the goat. Lebron is king of the casuals that don’t watch full games or appreciate/understand the game.
I don’t need anybody’s opinion on how great MJ was. I lived in Chicago. I watched this man play. There had never been anyone like him, and there hasn’t been since. There have been some close seconds (Kobe) and some new originals (Curry) but Jordan’s career was a literal story book. And it’s almost all on film. He’s the one guy who you never get tired of watching.
No lies told here!!!! Preach!!!
Same here
Yeah you watched basketball…this is exactly true about everyone mentioned.
Kobe was not a close second. He was a poor man Jordan. Kobe's career(the last 5-6 years) at the end was painful to watch and people nowadays seem to just give him all the undeserved credit due to his tragic passing.
Penny was more talented and well rounded coming in the league and we never saw him peaked due to injury. Same with Grant Hill that's far more promising as a young player than the current crops of so called superstar.
But for the most part I agree with you ( not that you care and I respect that).
@@blipblip Agreed. What us Gen Xers need to be doing is revisiting our era and putting it into context. I have, but I see there are few of us who have, and I don't see it getting any better. I overlooked the 80's in my youth, now I watch as many games on YT I can find, it/they were better. Kobe and Steph are just narcissistic bootleg versions of Jordan and Nash. I think Vince had the opportunity to be the closest thing to Mike, but Vince ushered in this new era I'd see throughout millenials, this like, half high vibe, way too comfortable on the court vibe. I personally knew things in the culture had changed when I'd see kids walking on the court in flip flops and little string back packs.
Jordan is the GOAT by far!!🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
That lie is in jeopardy
And who's the truth? Lebozo aka LeFraudking? The king of flops, whiners and Mvp robbing?
@esllorin84 jord whole career was fraudulent the 90's were watered-down so Jordan can win especially playing players like Jeff hornacek and Craig ehlo
@@esllorin84it's better to lose in the finals 6 time's
@@ricardolozano5356Its better to accumulate a 40% winning percentage on the gms largest stage by being swept / gentlemen multiple times with HOF talent... than accumulating an 100% win percentage ONLY in the form of 3-peats... without a single gm7...
LeBrons 🥩 munchers have the IQ of a rock 😂
The fact they feel the need to bring him down tells you he's the GOAT.
Why is it so difficult for this new generation to understand that MJ was a damn generational talent that was leaps and bounds ahead of the times. Every generation has an athlete like that in sports. Gretzky, Bonds, Messi, Ronaldo, Tyson, Mayweather, etc. These athletes pathed the way for the next generation, I'm so sick of the slander.
For nick Wright it's because he wouldn't have a career if not for gassing up lbj and slandering mj. Unfortunately that's how many pundits get their work. The formula is have one pundit support the mj and the truth and the other be ridiculous to make the fringe casuals more interested and piss off real fans. Young fans tend to be very ignorant and they want to belive they are seeing the best ever
They have been told that athletes evolve and are getting better all the time, so it's understandable that they wouldn't be willing to accept that a previous great could compare to their current generation great.
@craigjohnston5781 I feel like anyone who took biology at any phase should understand that evolution doesn't happen to a species in like 30 years. Unless it's life cycle is very very very short
Cuz they watched X-men and thought evolution has already happened and athletes been hiding their abilities until now
@mysteriouspartyguy lol, basically. That and everyone from major networks to YT content creators regurgitate the same tired lines "bigger, stronger, faster" and "today's players are more skilled than ever". Despite neither of those claims being backed by any kind of facts or evidence.
The fact that these lebron fans are questioning jordans career let's you know they are running out of excuses. From the competition, to he couldn't go left or the entire era he played in was watered down. Pathetic!!!!
It's over for me as far as this stupid goat debate
@@jimmycharlotin7050 it was over when lebron decided to leave Cleveland to Miami.
@anthonystevenson830 here's the common denominator of all of this and it's kobe bryant and here's why last time I checked when LeBron james couldn't get it done in the 2006 fiba world cup and they lost to Greece who colangelo call to save team usa? Kobe bryant. from 07-08 to 10-11 they was the first real goat debate between LeBron vs kobe right yeah LeBron james won multiple league mvp and during that time he put up better number but who led their team further then the other with less help? Didn't kobe beat the teams that LeBron james lost to? especially when the cavs were favored to go to the finals. I never thought he was better than kobe let alone jordan
@jimmycharlotin7050 when kobe saved lebron in the Olympics and beat that same boston that ran lebron out Cleveland for kobe to win his 5th ring proved who was the better player.
@anthonystevenson830 exactly bro you know embarrassing it is when people you won championships in your such as Kyrie irving, Kevin love and Chris bosh has high praise for kobe than LeBron james? Kevin love said I'm taking kobe over LeBron simply because whenever kobe bryant came to Minnesota tickets sold out in minutes, but you tell Shannon sharpe or nick that statement they'll deny it
I love Rasheed Wallace and know he's a smart dude but his opinion of Mike's defensive skills is ridiculous. Maybe the weed talkin'.
@@GDTBATH it’s funny that Rasheed bashes Jordan especially because they both went to UNC. Rasheed says weird stuff all the time.
klutch sports wrote the script for him
@@vineelkesavarapu5736 Speaking of UNC, believe it or not but Sheed was Coach Smith's all time favorite player. He loved the guy.
@@GDTBATH That's very surprising. I did not know that.
Old Roscoe off his meds again…it bewilders me, what is talking about? Like he said, he doesn’t watch basketball.
The amount of effort MJ put in on the defensive end in one game when he was younger is more than LBJ has put in his entire career
Dude watch the games! Not highlights and interviews of 90s players. I’ve seen games in the 90s and its so fucking overrated especially defensively. Its not even close on what the players and the fans been saying😂
@@rapmolina3768 OH YOU'VE SEEN "GAMES"? Some of us saw.... the decade. As in, we were there
@@rapmolina3768 naw your right todays defense is so good that the average score of the game is so high its like its a all star game every night
@@TheInternationalJew-vn4bn bro the difference is the players ability to shoot not defense.😂 back then only shooting guards and centers are the primary scorers that explains the average score you’re arguing🤣Defense has always been the same. Same schemes same coverage someone can argue that defensive schemes now is better cos its a positionless game and everyone can guard. the league may have changed the officiating but the changes they’ve made during MJs era is much more than 2000s til date. Let’s be honest, NBA favored MJ, even 80s players said so. Let me say this again. Watch full games and tell me aim wrong 🤣
@@rapmolina3768 I used to watch when i was a kid then when my kid turned into 8 we started to watch again from the 1984 playoffs (not only Bulls' games) now he is almost 13 and just finished 1998. We simultaneously watched the 2019-2024 playoffs aswell. It is fkn easy to see that from 1984-1998 the defense was way tougher!!! It is just so fkn obvious that it is not even a comparison. Today is just almost nonexisting comparing to the 80s and 90s not because players dont want to defend, rather the refs doesnt let them do anything what they could have done in previous eras, while in the same time they let all the players get away with travels, carries, and many offensive faults, gathering steps also gave them a legal 3rd step but they many times let them do even 4-5 steps without punishing them. You have to be a highly hypocrite person to deny these facts. And when you say "Dude watch the games!" I am sure already that actually you are the one who didnt watch those games. And i am pretty sure you only watched highlights about the 80s-90s in which they cherrypicked some pretty rare situations when there were no defense, and you believed those were common things.
In short: YOU start to watch the 90s games!!!
Look at the effort these guys are putting out man…….what happened to my favorite game 😢
LeTrash James is what happened to the game of basketball! Him and his cronnies destroyed the love of the game and made it a damn soap opera about an unskilled steroids using pos basketball player
Love how well this video points out the subtle differences in legal definitions of travels and assists across eras.
Right? Yet today's players that are SO superior aren't even close to Stockton's record - which by today's standards would probably be closer to 20k than 16k!
Michael Jordan made people love basketball, LeBron James has made it hard to love basketball.
Been saying this for years and it’s true!! I hate todays softass game of basketball
@Iceman24424 They soft and weak minded. They get triggered easy and go on weak rants on social media. its all the mindset and privilidge now thats runining these kids
Likeness and entitlement
I haven’t even see Mike “live”.. as the NBA wasn’t possible for us (my household) to watch back then.. I was introduced to Basketball trough a friend of my father who lived in the US, he would sent videotapes 📼 to us.. didn’t even knew what basketball was at the age of 10/11.. it looked cool tho.. even then, with my lack of knowledge on the game.. I could feel and sense.. there was something different about this guy. The only reason why I wanted to visit the states was to see him ball out “live”. Unfortunately.. never happened.
Bonbon makes it hard to just watch basketball.
Wildly accurate
Jordan is the best ever 💯🤘
They talk about MJ like he babe Ruth. It wasn’t that long ago lmao
AOH/Skap Attack/Uncut Hoops = better than actual nba games
When you add up all their basketball knowledge & experience playing the game, you get a local CYO player who never made it to HS ball
Do you need to be a chef to be able to tell that a food is delicious?
Who is AOH?
gotta put Jonny Arnett in there too. And Thinking Basketball.
@@ericcod1productions Angry Old Hoops Fan is the channel, great content.
Going through MJ career is like watching an iceberg. You just see like 20% of it, and then you're hit with the overwhelming reality how big it is.
They get really upset of your say anything bad about Jordan like he’s never done one thing wrong
@@brianharron3435and yall just try to excuse every damn thing your queen does
@@sirfrescobar4830 who is yall
Are you serious? What the FUCK? Jordan is one of the best to ever grace a basketball court. I cant stand this ignorance.
It's Nick "Klutch me Harder LeBron" Wrong. Nick is allowed to believe LeBron is the GOAT. I'm not one who gets offended that someone thinks LeBron is the GOAT. I don't but fine. Nick's insane fixation on destroying and diminishing MJ at every turn makes him disgusting. Skip Bayless goes way overboard about LeBron but he's a troll. Nick has many good takes but when it comes to LeBron vs MJ he becomes less sports commentator and more boo defending her baby daddy. Dude literally brought in high school and college accolades to push MJ to 3rd on his top NBA list that by any metric justifies ZKarerm at #1 but removed that criteria so LeBron didn't also have to be judged by them. Not to mention he literally has some nasty dig at MJ even we hen it's completely uncalled for.
Yeah, u r right. It’s like if little kids wana believe in Santa Claus let em beleive, why ruin their fantasy
Most viewership of the nba finals was in 1998. Everyone knows who’s the goat
When defenders argue "Ratings/viewership is lower because there's more things to watch nowadays" I always respond with "In other words, people would rather watch Mr Beast videos than LeBron James playing basketball" 😆
All of the 7 lowest NBA Finals viewership ratings have come since Lebron entered the league... 2 of which involved Lebron. The top 9 highest-rated NBA Finals took place during Jordan's career, and all of the top 4 involved Jordan. Nuff said!
@@jordanjenkins1671facts lmaoooo it’s such a weak add argument. Aka, Lebron is the king of the casuals that read box scores and listen to opinionated podcasts about him…..not real hoops fans that watch full games and actually understand the sport and its beauty lmao
NBA Finals game occurred during the 2016 series between the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Golden State Warriors. Game 7, which took place on June 19, 2016, garnered an impressive 31 million viewers.
@@Doggy-i6lYeah Curry has been involved in some big rated Finals your right in Lebrons era
It doesn't matter what any of these cretins say, no one will ever supplant MJ as the greatest of all time. No one.
I would love to see someone become the new greatest of all time. But it needs to be earned. No one has come close to earning that title over the goat that is MJ
Kobe carried Shaq in all 3 championships. I got Kobe as the greatest 🏀 of all time. @@d.columbia9603
@@d.columbia9603 I'm not sure we'll ever see his like again. Lots of players, before and since, have similar talents and skills. Some might even possess the drive and determination, but I can't think of anyone, outside of maybe Kobe, who shared MJ's obsession to be the best at all costs.
Theoretically it should happen, but the fact he was such a beast, and STILL, by far, the greatest single player to watch in awe.
NBA players are meant to do things us regular folk can't, Mj did stuff that blew our minds.
So they will have to do a much better eye test than LeBron, have the Mj killer in them, just win win win, even when you lose, like the 63 point game🤣 And then a 1000 other requirements 🥵🥵
Yeah, in theory it's even looking impossible 🤔😁
I don't listen 👂🏾 to LeBrons mouth 👄 pieces.Its easy to tell his telling them some of that B.S to say.Lebrons career is built on the back of superteams and the lemedia and the league helping him.And it's not hard to see that.
Its always interesting to think how strict traveling and carrying the ball was back then and hand checking was allowed. if the game was called like that today..players wouldnt seem so "skilled"..would they? 😂 theyd be literally forced to play by the rules and would restrict so much unnecessary ball handling, cuz coaches would bench people if they start getting all these turnovers.
The traveling was strict by today’s standards but watching that old footage it didn’t look strict to me at all, then again I just don’t pay attention to modern ball. The other thing that was crazy in these clips is what they consider assists these days, it looks harder to not get an assist now.
Nobody creats mythlogy for him. The media creates mythology for the new players to somehow be in the conversation.
Jordan was so great that these kids have mistaken his actual accomplishments for the myths they use on the daily to prop up these weak super stars.
Interesting point.🙂
Straight facts.
FACTS bro! Well put!
Even if Jordan isnt the GOAT it sure as hell aint Lablame.. way to many players in front of him with way better all around talent
Wow u work hard on your videos 🎉👍👌🔥 that's highly impressive thanks for the knowledge you provide to the people
great work maannn
After this, throw a curveball and do Jayson Tatum‘s career just like this and end of debate for once and for all
What debate about Jayson Tatum?
Now that's a great concept and that video could have went on forever and I could have watched that forever
I think the game of basketball is so great because willpower and killer instinct are just as important if not more so than just skills. I personally think 80's teams would kill modern teams because they had so much damn heart and it tied in with the physicality of the game. I've seen most of the all time stars today collapse under pressure, just imagine how 80's players would mentally and physically dominate these guys today.
Absolutely
And dealing with the racism
Thank you SmokeDog! As many have said, it really depends upon whose rules they played under... But assuming you try to neutralize that by allowing some mix of both with each side allowed time to train and adjust.... I'd LOVE to get some coaches/players responses to how players' fundamentals, skills and discipline would impact the results of 80s/90s players vs modern players matchup. Today, we can barely beat the rest of the world, and all the NBA's best players develop and train elsewhere around the globe. Modern players never get the critical college experience old school players all received to learn fundamentals. Where would Jordan have been without the fundamentals and work ethic he developed at UNC? Are we seeing that player today in someone like Anthony Edwards? I think we've seen, especially on defense, old school players would more than hold their own (what could LeBron do against Pippen and Rodman all night?)...
Some modern bigs have grown up playing outside the post, and would create matchup problems. But no one today could defend Shaq or Hakeem. Modern players do have some advanced training and nutrition that would impact careers (how long could Larry Joe have played?), but not peak players' in an individual game, or playoff series...
Part 1 of 12. Should be part 1 of infinity.
The question remains will a die hard LeBron fan be objective about their GOAT? 🧐 🧐 🤔
Good job man, amazing video
So much research went into this video!!! Thank you!
yet they’re still talking about him today…what’s that tell you?
0:20 who invited Jordan Poole on nicks podcast
Thats his son lol
Get em 🔥🏀🔥
The Chief Robert Parrish who played with MJ during his mythic 1996 Season has been taking shots at him saying his Airness couldn't surpass Bird's Celtics, Thomas' Pistons and Magic's Lakers during the 80's, hence he shouldn't be considered the GOAT:
1. Bird's Celtics had three Hall of Famers, and one finals MVP during 1979 at DJ Johnson, plus another Hall of famer coming from the bench at Bill Walton.
2. Thomas' Pistons had three Hall of Famers, and still were beaten by Jordan during the 1991 ECFS( it's BS they were passed their primes), Thomas was 30, Dumars 28, and Rodman around 30.
3. The Lakers had three Hall of Famers.
Jordan had no help during the 80's, and Pippen picked during the 1991 Season.
IGNORANCE IS DARING....ANONYMOUS, And the living proof goes to Robert Parrish, Jordan wasn't the greatest teammate due to his competiveness? Hell Yes, But I guess why he won so many titles during his illustrious career.
Pippin was drafted in 88
Right? If being old was true. Then why did Rodman got another 3 rings more at later years, and so is MJ at 35
@@algladyou it comes to show you that if B.S was a valuable item in Supermarkets, it would run out quickly because the majority of people would buy it.
@@luisrodriguez-mb7cc lol! The cognitive dissonance of them. 😅
Pippen was drafted in 1987 from an NAIA school (like D3) and required alot of development. But Parrish was right. Jordan never beat Bird's Celtics teams in the playoffs (ever), and it took 4 (yes, 4!) very painful years to get past the Pistons. To "the Chief's" credit, he has stated on more than one occasion MJ was the GOAT. And Bird is the one, as the reigning back2back league MVP in 1986, that said MJ was "god disguised as a basketball player".
Great video
If MJ DPOY award fugazi that means Lebron's entire piece of crap career is fugazi!
The current generation of fans, sports analysts, and pseudo-experts actively celebrates mediocrity. People consider players like Embid, Harden, and Paul George elite when arguments downplay the significance of winning championships. A recent video on Kobe Bryant highlights my point, showing how LeBron James froze against Dallas in 2011. While no one denies Jordan’s flaws, the current generation dismisses James flaws. So, it's no surprise that mediocrity is being celebrated.
Lebron got shut down by Shawn Marion and Jason Terry from the Dallas mavericks? Really? No one on earth can say that they shut down Jordan! In fact, they feared Jordan!
Jordan has something Lebron can never have, a dynasty. Jordan joined a team that had never won a title and gave them 6. Lebron has never done anything even close to that. Forget that if MJs dad hadn’t been murdered odds are good that the bulls would have ruled most of a decade lol.
Plus, Jordan made it possible for players to get paid what they do. Also, don't forget his (and his mom's) instrumental role in signature shoe deals. Everyone wanted to be like Mike; I doubt many want to be le flop.
That 80's vs. 20's montage on assists indirectly showed how padded this era is. Some of of those assists from today I was legit thinking "in what universe is that an assist?"
Mj was so good as a rookie they had to triple team him😂😂😂
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MJ worked the hardest than players today unlike a flopper we know who gives up easily. MJ gives 100+% during all his game
Thank you Uncut. Nothing like seeing actual video for proof and hearing the announcers point out different zones and defensive looks. I argue with some people that they DID use the zone back then more often than you think. They got to stop listening to Nick wrong, colon cowherd and others.
Fake DPOY? Lead the league in steals per game with 3.2!, 1.6 blocks per game as a guard, 2nd in the league with 6.1 DWS, and lead the league in DBPM with 4.2.
Meanwhile, Lebron only broke 2 steals per game once in his career, most blocks per game was 1.1 as a 6’9” player, only broke 3 DBPM once in his career with 3.7. He did have a 6.5 DWS season.
That 80s and 90s had the most centers...
Kareem
Shaq
Ewing
Moses
Daugherty
Zo Mourning
Parish
Olajuwon
Robinson
Mutombo
Smits
And im leaving out a few names!!
Also when 7 Footers started playing PF. They were really C's but the League ws Stacked with 7 Footers that every PF was also a C. Guys like
Webber who was 6'10 270
Sampson
Garnet 7'
Dirk Nowitzki 7'
Gasol
McHale was 6'11 with a 7'6 Wingspan
James Edwards 7'0
Duncan
The Jordan Files. Lets do it!!!
We all here the career stats argument, yet never about MJ played 3 years in college winning a natty. Plus 2 years first retirement and 3 more before being a Wizard. So thats 8 years worth of career stats lost.
Then you look at averages against peers at thier position MJ is mainly top 3 in most Bron isnt.
Bron is a much larger man plays closer to the basket yet has never averaged 10 RPG a season His calling card is acknowledged as being a passer still never 10 APG a season. He plays in an era where scoring is up by 15 to 20 PPG, with just 1 scoring champ. On defense hes had probably 5 seasons you could say he was elite.
Mike had 10 scoring champs when scoring was in the 90's for a game. Scored more in an era where defense was played harder and scoring was lower.
Just things to consider before having a debate on who's the GOAT.
Then you have to consider is Bron even in the conversation? Yes he's a damn good player, just lacks those jaw dropping moments on a consistent basis.
6 guys I'd say are in this conversation.
1. W. Chamberlain
2. Kareem
3. L. Bird
4. M. Johnson
5. M. Jordan
6. K. Bryant
Possibly G Hill and D Rose if injurieshadn't robbed them of thier athleticism
To me Bron is a shorter version of Shaq. Both are above average, imagine if they had the drive of the other men above to improve and hone their game from day 1 to the end of their career what we could be saying. I feel both had more to give than playing bully ball
I don't see a lot of difference between those 80's players and players today, you'd expect a huge difference the way some guys talk about those old skool players not being skilled. If anything you had to be more skilled with how strict the rules were. That's why Jordan's footwork was so great, you'd think the average player today would have that kinda footwork but it's not the case
Lebron got 8 million viewers his last finals game and in 1998 mike had 36 million watch his last game fanboys cone on😂😂😂
Jordan is the only person where the hard you look into his game the better he looks...
Lebron has to make it a media fight using political tactics in order to be in the conversation becuase his resume isn't adding up
Everyone is jealous of MJ. Rasheed Wallace didn't he wanna play against Jordan back in 1995 when Jordan had challenged all UNC players that one time.
If you do not think that Jordan is, BY FAR, the greatest player ever, you are either one of two things: 1 someone who knows nothing about basketball or 2 below 20 years old.
Modern day NBA allows players to travel and carry the ball. There is 3 second rule in the paint as well. 80's and 90's basketball was more difficult and clearly a different game than today's NBA.
Lmao "it's as if he never missed a shot" smh how appropriate because MJ was the most ruthlessly machine like consistent competitor in all of sports and is probably a major reason any of these talking heads even have a job. I have never seen anyone ever come close to MJ in his ability to consistently perform at the highest level especially when it matters most. And just objectively that comment is so massively stupid like MJ averaged 50% from the field for his career so its quite obviously he missed exactly 50% of his shots which is in fact elite for a shooting guard who is scoring 30ppg for his career. Colin Cowface is the worst analyst on earth literally. If you didn't actually watch MJ's entire career you really don't have room to speak.
Jordan is the most double-teamed player in history except for possibly Shaq in his prime. What kids today don't understand is that this type of swarming, hard trap defense took the ball out of players' hands, preventing star players from putting up numbers. Today when teams try this, they just call a foul on the defense if the trap is even half as aggressive as some of the ones in this video. Thus the offensive player gets to the line, puts up more points, and this also discourages continued trapping.
That assist section gave me an aneurism wtf are we doing counting them jawns nowadays as an assist. AOH said it best: “if we’re counting those as assists, you might as well give an assist to whoever invented dribbling”
Mess around and do the same for Lebron James and the narrative surrounding his greatness will diminish. The guy is all hype
Lebron fans just say things out of hate. They never have any solid concrete evidence to their claims.
Great vid. The only people that don't know how great MJ was are the people that didn't see him play.
This was so necessary. Ive told people for years that the highlights are great but go back and watch a full game of him playing so you can see the makes the misses and all the highlights that got over shadowed. there's soooo much more that people have never seen. Side note: that assistant rule now is wild when you see it like this. lol Great work with the start of this series.
Can't wait to see this 12 part series!
Well Gilbert (nice name btw) Jordan RULED the 80s and 90s
All this stupid video achieved with me is to remind me why MJ is the GOAT
I'll put it this way. EVERY SINGLE GAME ON NBC OR TNT WAS A WIN FOR JORDAN!!!! AND WITH HIM MAKING THE WINNING PLAYS AND FINAL SHOTS EVERY SINGLE GAME. His National TV RECORD is literally like 400 and 0
I am NOT a Bulls fan. I WAS NOT a Bulls fan...I was not a Jordan fan, but I recognize greatness...
LeBron is NOT great...
At his height and weight and with the two minimal abilities he has (running and jumping) and the one VERY MINIMAL SKILL he has dribbling (for as tall as he is), he should have ACTUALLY dominated the NBA... If he had HALF the dawg that Jordan, Kobe or even Curry have, he would have for 10-0 in the Finals, gotten MULTIPLE DPOY awards, played 82 games more than just once in his career, as opposed to LOAD MANAGING all the time...I could go on and on...
Jordan was, during his prime playing days, 55 pounds less than LeBron and 3 inches shorter... Played in a MUCH TOUGHER NBA (by the way, any idiot that asserts how today's NBA is tougher, can NEVER explain how it's tougher!).
Jordan played 82 games (a full season) 9 TIMES in his career! That's Stockton did this 16 times. AC Green did 14 times, K. Malone & Randy Smith did it 10 times and Jordan is tied for 4th place, having played 82 games NINE times...
And, of all top 10 players, Jordan has the MOST 82 game seasons in history...
LeBron, once again, is larger and stronger than Jordan and Stockton and plays in a softer era of the NBA and yet, he could only manage to accomplish this feat ONCE?
Even Earl Boykins, 5'5" 135 managed that!
After Kobe won his 1st 🏆 he Worked hard to win again!After MJ won his 1st 🏆 he Worked hard to make sure NO one else won again! 🤦🏿♂️😝🐐
You switch MJ and LBJ and the bulls wouldn’t even beat NJ. Buck Williams and Chocolate Thunder would make him quit.
Them 2020's assists are WILD!
Those aren't even assists on NBA 2K 😂
But they had the nerve to do an entire hit piece on MJ's DPOY season and call out a few steals he (supposedly) shouldn't have gotten credited for 🙄 smh...
Can someone explain to me WTF is going on??
Why is there a trend to shit on all the icons??
And I ain't just talkin hoops...
Nick wright(BUM)- jordan slacked on defense!
People with at least one brain cell- you know you're talking about LeBron right!
Its so pathetic, they actually give LeBron steals and rebounds he really didnt even get!
According to the NBA a steal is acquired by the player that deflects/inhibits the pass not the person who actually came up with the ball! Same for rebounds the person who tips it up for a teammate to try and get it is the one who is suppose to get the rebound credit, not the person who came up with it, but yet theres SO many cause where someone deflected/ inhibits the pass LeBron comes up with it, they give the "steal" to LeBron! Same for rebounds! Lebron has more assists, steals and revounds than he actually should! His stats are so inflated!
THEY!!! Opened the pandora’s box trying to delegitimize MJ…
Of course I enjoyed it…you’re exposing the standard, when you go at THEM the same way they go at Jordan.
Am gonna stay tuned. Great job man, keep going 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Lmao and after watching this footage literally NOBODY today is seeing that kind of 1v3 and 1v4 defense ever period.
Listen to how former players talk about MJ. GAME OVER
This how nick Wright keeps his ratings up lets keep it 💯 MJ made nick Wright love basketball he wanted to be like Mike. So all his slander has built nick Wright but he will never tell MJ to his face that LeBron is goat 😂😂😂. Please quit disrespecting Kobe Bryant R.I.P and LeBron is a SF and Pippen the greatest SF all time.
1986-1993 Jordan was the greatest times of Basketball , we watched GOD play
Basketball discourse is so stupid nowadays they are giving you so much content 😂 it will NEVER stop
Yas! Now THIS is what I’m talking about! Thank you @Uncut Hoops! You are doing a long overdue, quintessentially necessary service, not only took your country but to the entire planet - hell, GALAXY - with this 12 part Jordan Files series. Leave NO stone unturned my man. God bless you Uncut Hoops; you are a gentleman and a scholar.
Lebron and his minions will try till the end of time and will still fail. Jordan will stay the GOAT over Lebalco 🤷♂️🏀🔥
Jordan just needed to be unleashed. And when playing for coaches like Dean Smith, Mike K and others, you have to play in "their" system. That's good, but the NBA gives you more freedom of movement. Other players you can think of is Vince Carter, Ja Morant, Steph Curry, etc. In college, they didn't play the same way. You saw potential...but in the NBA, they were unleashed.
Sad to make this comparison, but Lebron was unleashed in high school...and he never changed or adapted. Kobe, however, kept working and was unleashed by the time Shaq came along.
Really shows how far apart Jordan is from any other NBA player to ever play the game. He came in SUPER hungry!
Great start to your 1st of 12 videos. Thank you for always exposing the media's false narratives.
A supremely athletic 6’6 guard with a hang time measured in hours… coupled with 3 years of superb coaching at UNC and then with Phil Jackson was flat out unstoppable. But his biggest advantages, especially shooting… were his (very soft) hands the size of a catcher’s mitt. Simply the best player to ever lace them up.
Brilliant brilliant point about what counts as an assist in the 80s and now. That’s great analysis!!! I’ve watched games today where a player receives a pass, pauses for seconds, get into his move, and then scores and the passer gets an assist (NO WAY THAT IS AN ASSIST!!!!!!)
lets just remember, you're measured in comparison with your peers. lebron has peers. quite a few of them. jordan had no fucking peers.
Who mythologized him? Bird said he was God dressed as Michael Jordan. AI, TMac, and many others have talked about the aura they saw around him. We didn't mythologize anyone. We just understand what we saw and refuse to be gaslit by paid props for Klutch Sports and others who want to make a name for themselves by trashing MJ.
Those Bucks were Playing a Tight 2-3 Zone all in the Lane.
I was still pretty young during the first 3peat, but I remember the Bulls beating the Lakers. I fully remember him retiring and coming back for the 2nd. I've even been to a game where MJ played the Bucks.(I lived in Milwaukee)
All that said, it's not commercial propaganda, revisionist history, or nostalgia. The guy was just on a different level. He might have had an off night very rarely, but he was always giving it his all. Especially when the stakes were at their highest.
Another clinical, scientific, easily understood analysis! The haters can never back up the opinions (not facts) they boast about. Keep 'em coming.
People these days haven't even watched the old NBA and players that they are criticizing. They don't even watch the NBA and players today! They just watch edited highlights and clips.
This is all swirling around Lebron, and his nihilistic quest to tear down Jordan so that Lebron can take his place. Lebron hasn't grown the sport, he has burnt it down.
People act like Jordan played in 1950. Mythology lmfao we seen the dude their is tape his opponents are still alive. People that watched him aren’t dead. This isn’t a case of babe Ruth. You can watch this dude right now full games.
If the Last Dance couldn't do this 12 part series isn't going to change minds. Some just want to be ignorant. But I'm still here for it.
Nick Wright 😢 im starting to see only them Diddy party dudes stick together?
Today’s NBA players and media are so low they need to discredit the pass. Why focus so much attention on pass players if the league is so great today? Today’s league is lacking viewership and fair officiating. So lame it needs to trash legends of the passed. It’s the ONLY major sport that looks down on its own all-time greats.
Some Coaches played Zone defense in the 80's and 90's. They would do it all the time and it was legal if they First Doubled a player hard. They could then play Zone the rest of the Play.
Those travel calls back then were diabolical. Compare that to today where some guys take 4 to 6 steps and shuffel their feet and dont get the travel calls *cough cough* Bron
Man way to put in that work!!! It's very much appreciated!!!
Thanks for posting the video to expose all these lies. I always tell people if you actually watch the games, one will notice defenses commonly doubled, trapped, & played zone in the 80s & 90s. The key was that a player had to keep moving unless get whistled for illegal defense.
Secondly, it also proves how rule changes over time makes the game easier - for example the assists & traveling. Today most assists aren't really assists, but it looks good on the stat sheet. That doesn't really bother me, but the traveling is insane.
Rasheed Wallace: Jordan wasn't that good of a defender
Me:😂😂😂😂