Because the ones making the argument are part of a generation of ignorant, wanna-be-relevant individuals trying to make LeFraud the GOAT, not realizing he lost that bid in 2011.
Let's see, scoring is much better today Three point percentage Free throw percentage Ball handling The only reason why defense was better, in the 90's, is because most players couldn't shoot and stretch the floor
@@vicepresidentmikepence889 Did you say ball handing 😂😂 you mean carrying the ball and three-point shooting 😂😂 no fundamentals or defense. The data even shows the product today is trash. Nice try 😂😂😂 ball handling
@@vicepresidentmikepence889Bingo- the 90's were a watered down expansion era of glorified 1 on 1 ball with less athletic and less skilled player. "tougher defense" = hard fouls and no zones against a majority of the league who couldnt shoot. It is all a joke to anyone who knows the game.
I’m actually the rare fan of both Skip and Nick. But even as a fan of them, they do have certain takes that they are either wrong or insufferable about for sure. Makes it hard to be a fan. For Skip, he’s right about Lebron, but talks about it too often. For Nick, who can usually back up his points, the fact that he so clearly omits and skews data trying to put Lebron over Jordan is just bizarre and off-putting.
@@richforeverleaks3114 I'd take Wade over Pippen any day. You can say Jordan had Pippen for longer, but LeBron chose to leave Miami. Instead, LeBron got Kyrie on the Cavs. who's arguably better than Wade (I still prefer Wade).
@@0404chrisjz bruh it blew up the entire league and it's coverage fool it took the league global it's the reason the nba is in so many homes across the world nightly..so now talking heads like nick wrong can speak on basketball everyday smh
They been sucking the 90s players dix ever since. Only nba out of all major sports says their old era players can beat the new era players without questions for the past 25 damn years. Even though the players now are more skilled, better shooters, better ball handling, more athletic. My God I watched Jordan win every chip it was 25 years ago and yet the media still sucking him off. They didn't go this hard for magic and bird and yall still saying we don't give them respect. Watch any debate of new player vs and see how much respect the majority of the cast give to the old eras. Only a few analyst actually sat the lebron over jordan
LeBronda lost to Dwight Howard in the 2009 Eastern conference finals. Allowing the Orlando Tragic to get trounced by Kobe in the finals. That’s so soft. LeBronda then blames his teammates, jumps ship to D Wade, and proceeds to play so SOFT and TIMID that he himself lost the series to the Mavs because he choked on a big Dirk. The heat should have lost back to back to the Spurs.
What's worse than the Gen Z losers that believe him are the Millenial and Gen X morons that also push the same nonsense. I am convinced that those that were old enough to have watched Jordan but keep using the same nonsense arguments that people too young use probably always hated Jordan and just jumped on the LeBron bandwagon for validation. That's why they tend to spend more time explaining why they think Jordan isn't the GOAT instead of why they think LeBron is.
What amazes me is that MJ didn’t even need to play with the Wizards to get his 6 rings because he already had them. Bron needs every season he can get after 20 seasons already to still try to get two more. 🤷🏻♂️
Great point, it's actually just pure stat/record padding in its purest form!!! He knows he can't catch MJ, but you gotta give him credit for trying!!! Longevity is the one and only thing LeFraud actually has over MJ, all the other stuff is just semantics, really!!! What would Nick actually do if people accepted LeFraud as the GOAT, maybe go away and actually end this foolishness?? If that's the case, let's crown LeFraud now, and finally silence this fool!!!
It's funny how Nick Wright talks about how good LaBron was in game 7 but never mentions that Michael Jordan never had to play in a game 7 in any of his championship games. And you know that he knows that fact too. Speaker: " Hay Michael, what do you think about Lebron in game 7?" Michael: "l don't know. I never played in one" lol 😅
But people like you who call other people names because you disagree are making the world better😂 Zero self awareness is a prerequisite when you're in a cult
@@drexlspivey3047 I don't hate him because he has a different opinion, I hate him because he is a corporate scumbag getting paid to be a PR jocksniffer who puts down actual great players to push a fake agenda down people's throats.
Jordans peak was from 1984 to 1998. 14 years and he accomplished more then any player in that amount of time and more. He tasted defeat as does any player on a rebuilding team but on the biggest stage, Jordan knows nothing but winning. I couldn't imagine losing 6 finals. my gosh that is not GOAT like at all.
Thank you! How can "the goat" have a losing record in the finals?! MJ went 6-0 and had 6 finals mvps. It's not even close when comparing him and lebron. You are better off comparing kobe to michael than lebron.
Uhhhh 96… MJ won Championship, Finals MVP, League MVP, Allstar game selection, Allstar game MVP, 1st team all D, 1st team all NBA, Lead the league in scoring….oh, and went 72-10
"Yeah, the Bulls set the then-record for wins in a season, but did they win 27 in a row (which isn't a record)?" That's basically what Nick Wright is saying.
Nick wright is a Delusional Lebron Fanboy. He basically spews nonsensical takes and is a hypocrite when debating MJ vs Lebron. Does exactly what he’s blaming others to be aka “Dishonest”. #Pathetic 🤡😂🤣😂
@@emilfrederiksen.1622then you are blind. Iverson carried the hell out of the ball. Isiah Thomas,Tim Hardaway had a tight,strong handle and crossover. Even an assist is inflated today. An out of bounds pass and 5 dribbles later score-it counts as an assist. It's so much worse,but people who never lived through different can't comprehend the difference in quality .
Nick Wright said it best, to paraphrase. "This idea that the nba in the 80's and 90's was like the Roman gladiators in the coliseum is idiotic. Nba in the 80's and 90's was slightly more physical with much worse athletes"
@@vicepresidentmikepence889Jordan, Dominique, Kemp, Chambers, Kevin Johnson, JR Rider, Iverson would adapt if they grew up and played now against five out sets and chubby Euros.
With the exceptions of his sophomore year when he broke his foot and when he came back from retirement in the middle of the 95 season, Jordan’s peak was his entire run with the Chicago Bulls.
If only these Klutch's morons could acknowledge that returning from almost two years of retirement and dominate, with a new play style, is so hard. I've seen profissional athletes, resume, from one year of absence, and losing completely their form. Your body is programmed to perform at high level when you are on top of your game, but if you stop during a season its extremely difficult to get back to your old form. Specially if you are retired from the sport you once dominated.
And when they say, "in those 2 years Pippen still took them to ecf and won 50 games", I remind them of the MASSIVE DIFFERENCE between participating in the semi-finals, and 3-peating twice!😂
MJs Dad got MURDERED 18 months=to get his mind Right .. HOUSTON ROCKETS HAKEEM THE DREAM OLAJUWON..KENNY SMITH VERNON MAXWELL ROBERT BIG GAME BOB HORRY OTIS THORPE,,2ND NO OTIS THORPE +CLYDE DREXEL WINS 2.. COMES BACK #45 LOSES IN PLAYOFFS AGAINST ORLANDO MAGIC SHAQ,PENNY D,SCOTT,NICK ANDERSON HORACE GRANT ...#23 ADDS RODMAN 2ND 3 PEAT 72-10 TEAM WINS #6 AT 35 YRS OLD STEALS BALL FROM KARL MALONE SPRINT'S FULL COURT SCORES UTAH MISSES MJ COMES DOWN SHAKES BRYON RUSSELL 🎯 HITS GAME WINNING SHOT TO WIN #6
I was thinking how he said Lebron had a great game 6. He doesn't mention that Lebron missed the tying 3 pt shot and if it weren't for Ray Allen saving him, they would have been eliminated.
@@resColts Brady is the All Time leader in both passing yards and touchdowns which is equivalent to Lebron in scoring both players played 20 + seasons Brady 7 rings is an advantage Bron doesn’t have because Jordan has more rings then Bron but even with that fact Nick Wrong consistently makes the case that Mahomes is better. So everything he is champion Bron for in the NBA he’s undermining Brady for in the NFL
kinda reminds me of the mark twain quote - ''never argue with an idiot, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience'', there's no use in pointing out the flaws of his logic, he'll just twist things around endlessly to make his nonsense seem plausible
Great point, and Nick is so delusional he still disregards head to head Brady V Mahomes, in that ridiculous argument as well!!! He's just so ridiculous!!
Nick Wrong referencing that like its something to be ashamed of is absolutely ridiculous. That starting five was arguably the best in the league PG Penny Hardaway SG Nick Andersen SF Dennis Scott PF Horace Grant C Shaq O'Neal First team all NBA players and then throw in a few All Stars. But to Nick Wrong, MJ lost to some scrubs.
Another point of their nonsense is when they say Jordan played against plumbers, yet all of those plumbers had better stats than Scotty. but for some reason Scotty Pippin wasn't a Plumber. you can't make this stuff up
I never thought that there was a debate between MJ and Lebron, Lebron is nowhere next to MJ but this debate has at least one merit for me, it allowed Uncut Hoops and others to excel in the analysis and objective, relevant research!! And to clearly prove that MJ is by far the best player!!! GOAT!!
I'm not campaigning for the greatest player in the world or in history, I'm not saying that. Because everyone plays differently in different eras - Michael Jordan's posgame press conference after 93 Finals threepeat.
It’s pathetic how Nick Gonzo brings up “27 game winning streak” and “Game 6 & 7” performance like they’re actually accolades. Ignoring that the 96’ Bulls won 72 games and a championship that year. His comparisons are dishonest and flat out hypocritical because he ignores and doesn’t say what Jordan did with his criterias
He gets one chasedown block every 10 months, about 5 uncontested dunks a game from cherry-picking, and stands flat-footed the other 99% of the time while his teammates run circles around him. Just the worst.
@emilfrederiksen.1622 The softness of the league is a problem. It used to be a physical sport. The shooting is better, but now they're just a bunch of giant ballerinas.
I lose track of players after they're drafted because anything past college ball, I don't give a fuck. When they get to the NBA they go brain dead and forget everything they learned in the NCAA. They lose heart for the $$
How do these LeBron guys always glorify him for finishing second 🤣 Somehow finishing second in DPOY is an amazing accomplishment we have never seen before.
Lebron couldn’t win it without a super team. he also always lacked the killer Kobe, Jordan instinct. He is soft as can be. Lebron hasn’t even passed Kobe in my eyes 5 chips.
@@gggyy7104 dwade 8 all nba Ad 4 all nba Chris Bosh 1 all nba Westbrook 9 all nba Kyrie 3 all nba Kevin love 2 all nba So what are you talking about ? In total that way more than Scottie Pippen let not play stupid
7:30. But think about it, LeBalco avg more rebounds, yet it took him over 20 years to reach 1,668 offensive rebounds- which took Jordan 15 years. And offensive rebounds are considerably harder since the defender is closer to the basket. Once again, Jordan did more in less time.
90s basketball sucked so bad tens of millions of people watched the games while they can’t get two million people to even watch a team like the Lakers now. That should tell you everything you need to know.
I’ve been watching the NBA since 1966. The 90s and MJ still is the best basketball I’ve ever witnessed. No ticky tack soft fouls. The game was extremely physical. You could hand check your opponent legally. Today, MJ would average 50ppg. That info comes from todays and yesterdays players. The 90s refs wouldn’t allow all those traveling calls on Lebron. Check it on RUclips.
I've watched so many people break down Nick Wright''s Lebron vs Jordan videos. Jordan wins every single time. Cold hard math. Nothing subjective. Just fact checking his claims. Look I don't care who is better. It isn't like I'm getting paid to endorse either one of them. But Jordan was better. In literally every way.
It's weird Nick keeps mentioning winning streaks while on super teams. These ESPN and Fox sports personalities don't know these stats and comparisons to argue for Mike.
The glaring detail that Cuck Wright ignores is that Jordan was the undisputed leader of his teams during his peak. While in 2013, LeBron was at best the number two option on the Heat.
@MrWARBUCKS24 yet against an actual better team Chicago lost. Compared to the mediocre Knicks and Pacers two teams that were never championship material
@@melvynsngltn27 Nice tryb but those knicks and Pacers teams would roll LeCon and any of the ghey super teams he put together like the coward he is. Their only mistake was having to go thru MJ to get that ring.
The year LeBron averaged 36,13 and nine in the finals he shot the ball 33 times for game and shot just under 40% from the field. It is funny how Nick decides to leave out that part of the equation just to elevate LeBron while in the same breath, pointing to his shooting percentages in the previous finals because they favored LeBron
Nick says championships don’t matter. But he says he didn’t even make it to the final. So he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, unless only Michael’s championships don’t count.
Also, Jordan played in a far more difficult era to score or be dominant in, making these clear difference in per game stats even more 1 sided over Lebron
Mj retired for a year in half comeback then won another 3 chips...retiring then coming back is alot harder than playing consistent...Jordan's wizards years was also after a 2 in a half year layouts....without the play-in tournament lebrons lakers are not even a playoff team
And he's on the payroll of Clutch Sports. He has a conflict of interest and should declare his opinions are wholly paid content. Without declaring that connection, he should be sacked. He's engaging in fraudulent behaviour
Yall remember when Lebron wanted to retire Jordan's number league wide? And then when everyone ignored him he switched back to that number? Dude's a joke without any back bone
So tired of hearing Jordan vs LeBron. If LeBron would stop saying he's the GOAT and try harder to be the GOAT he might stop tarnishing what legacy he has left. LeBron might be fifth best Laker in history but I wouldn't pick him if I was choosing best five Laker players for a team.
"they don't want you to bring up the times he didn't win in the middle of the 6 championships," Well yeah, it would be pretty stupid to count the years in which he wasn't really playing. That'd be like holding it against Lebron for not winning in 2001
If his main distinction between Jordan's 87-88 and LeBron's 12-13 is the LeBron won the championship, can we add in team context perhaps? 87-88 Bulls starting 5: Jim Paxson PG, Jordan SG, Brad Sellers SF, Charles Oakley PF, and Dave Corzine C (HOFer Pippen was a rookie coming off the bench for 21 minutes/game), the only award amongst them was Paxton finishing 13th in most improved player and the only one of those to be selected any all star was Oakley one time for the Knicks 6 years later. 12-13 Heat starting 5: Mario Chalmers PG, Dwayne Wade SG, LeBron SF, Udonis Haslem PF, Chris Bosh C (HOFer Ray Allen was a veteran coming off the bench for 26 minutes/game), a completely player manufactured team with D Wade having 13 all star selections (including in 12-13), all-NBA 1st 2x, and all NBA 3rd team in 12-13 and Chris Bosh having 11 all-star selections (including in12-13). Let's put 12-13 LeBron on the 87-88 Bulls instead of Jordan to see if he makes the playoffs, and 87-88 Jordan on the 12-13 Heat instead of LeBron to see how many games in a row that team wins.
Wright conveniently leaves out so many details. It’s okay to count two shortened seasons for LeBron because he happened to win titles in those years, but we have to count the nearly two seasons in which Jordan was out for retirement? Another thing that doesn’t get talked about now is the fact that LeBron has needed the play-in tournament to even qualify for the playoffs over the past couple of years. W/o that, what do his achievements in LA look like? Let’s face it. He’s had one noteworthy year since he’s been there and it’s stained by the bubble.
You can have your favorite and say he’s the goat but the goat is always determined by the collective, the majority, whether you like it or not. Nobody has been that guy more than Jordan, ever.
Perfect game 6!! Dude had two turnovers and practically threw the game away. If it hadn’t been for Bosh and Ray he would’ve lost again. Dude just likes to recite stats but is either apparent or slick of him to put context into the stats.
Thing is, we don’t have to be dishonest about Mike and this clown and the le media can only be dishonest to keep this lunatic conversation alive. The only player that is close to Mike in a 5 yr span in stats is Wilt. Ten year span no one is close.
I want to know is it harder to make it to the finals or is it harder to win the finals and defend your crown 3 years in a row twice. Or just making to the finals 9 times and losing 6 time with one title defense and no threepeats
And you are forgetting the one key factor Jordan got all his championships with one team LeBron had to play hopscotch and skip around two different teams to go to stat team so he can win
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I simply can’t understand how anyone can watch an NBA game in 2024 and think any part of it is better than the 90s
Because the ones making the argument are part of a generation of ignorant, wanna-be-relevant individuals trying to make LeFraud the GOAT, not realizing he lost that bid in 2011.
Let's see, scoring is much better today
Three point percentage
Free throw percentage
Ball handling
The only reason why defense was better, in the 90's, is because most players couldn't shoot and stretch the floor
@@vicepresidentmikepence889lmao 😂 why did 88 bird team have a better free throw percentage than 90% of todays teams
@@vicepresidentmikepence889 Did you say ball handing 😂😂 you mean carrying the ball and three-point shooting 😂😂 no fundamentals or defense. The data even shows the product today is trash. Nice try 😂😂😂 ball handling
@@vicepresidentmikepence889Bingo- the 90's were a watered down expansion era of glorified 1 on 1 ball with less athletic and less skilled player. "tougher defense" = hard fouls and no zones against a majority of the league who couldnt shoot. It is all a joke to anyone who knows the game.
We are done with Nick Wright.
Facts
No you are not, you would never had watched the video
@@yct2.0so the guys saying they done with the 90’s aren’t really done?
Guy is Trash !!!!
ISTG!!!!
Nick Wright is insufferable to listen to.
I pick Shay Shay over Nick.
He is a clown!
@@doktor3196 all day. Although I can only take so much of his constant Lebron glazing too.
I’m actually the rare fan of both Skip and Nick. But even as a fan of them, they do have certain takes that they are either wrong or insufferable about for sure. Makes it hard to be a fan. For Skip, he’s right about Lebron, but talks about it too often. For Nick, who can usually back up his points, the fact that he so clearly omits and skews data trying to put Lebron over Jordan is just bizarre and off-putting.
Well, he works for klutch sports, so he will lie a lot for LeBalco.
What’s game 7 of the finals?
- Michael Jordan
Preach!
What’s life without Pippen?
@@richforeverleaks3114 What's life getting swept in the Finals... TWICE?
@@richforeverleaks3114
What’s life without Wade kyrie or AD?
@@richforeverleaks3114 I'd take Wade over Pippen any day. You can say Jordan had Pippen for longer, but LeBron chose to leave Miami. Instead, LeBron got Kyrie on the Cavs. who's arguably better than Wade (I still prefer Wade).
The 90’s and Jordan are the reason all of these fools are getting paid now. They need to show some proper respect.
How TF a talking head anchor getting paid because of Jordan foh
@@0404chrisjz bruh it blew up the entire league and it's coverage fool it took the league global it's the reason the nba is in so many homes across the world nightly..so now talking heads like nick wrong can speak on basketball everyday smh
thank you, the truth may send them free
They been sucking the 90s players dix ever since. Only nba out of all major sports says their old era players can beat the new era players without questions for the past 25 damn years. Even though the players now are more skilled, better shooters, better ball handling, more athletic. My God I watched Jordan win every chip it was 25 years ago and yet the media still sucking him off. They didn't go this hard for magic and bird and yall still saying we don't give them respect. Watch any debate of new player vs and see how much respect the majority of the cast give to the old eras. Only a few analyst actually sat the lebron over jordan
LeBronda lost to Dwight Howard in the 2009 Eastern conference finals. Allowing the Orlando Tragic to get trounced by Kobe in the finals. That’s so soft. LeBronda then blames his teammates, jumps ship to D Wade, and proceeds to play so SOFT and TIMID that he himself lost the series to the Mavs because he choked on a big Dirk. The heat should have lost back to back to the Spurs.
What’s more embarrassing than Nick’s Goat takes are the Gen Z losers that believe him.
im gen z and im thankful i got introduced to basketball through my brother showing me micheal jordan mixtapes when i was a kid
You’ve heard about the done with the 90’s trend?
@@managed9348 - Yeah. A false narrative with a couple clips as evidence that could only convince the extremely ignorant.
What's worse than the Gen Z losers that believe him are the Millenial and Gen X morons that also push the same nonsense. I am convinced that those that were old enough to have watched Jordan but keep using the same nonsense arguments that people too young use probably always hated Jordan and just jumped on the LeBron bandwagon for validation. That's why they tend to spend more time explaining why they think Jordan isn't the GOAT instead of why they think LeBron is.
@@managed9348 yeah im confused how that even became a trend
What amazes me is that MJ didn’t even need to play with the Wizards to get his 6 rings because he already had them. Bron needs every season he can get after 20 seasons already to still try to get two more. 🤷🏻♂️
And he really needs 3* more to even have a legitimate discussion.
Yeah, the fact that MJ came back to play a couple seasons with a terrible team is now somehow hurting his legacy in Wright's eyes. That's just dumb.
Great point, it's actually just pure stat/record padding in its purest form!!! He knows he can't catch MJ, but you gotta give him credit for trying!!! Longevity is the one and only thing LeFraud actually has over MJ, all the other stuff is just semantics, really!!! What would Nick actually do if people accepted LeFraud as the GOAT, maybe go away and actually end this foolishness?? If that's the case, let's crown LeFraud now, and finally silence this fool!!!
It's funny how Nick Wright talks about how good LaBron was in game 7 but never mentions that Michael Jordan never had to play in a game 7 in any of his championship games. And you know that he knows that fact too. Speaker: " Hay Michael, what do you think about Lebron in game 7?" Michael: "l don't know. I never played in one" lol 😅
WE DONE WITH THE 10S and 20S
Done with shit sports casters
ratings would agree
Well I'm just getting started
You mean the cupcake era?
Yessssirrrr!!!
People like Nick weasel are the reason why the world is a worse place than yesterday
Nick Weasel 💀
But people like you who call other people names because you disagree are making the world better😂
Zero self awareness is a prerequisite when you're in a cult
@@drexlspivey3047like LeBron fans who literally was disrespecting the players before them to uplift them? 😂😂
@@drexlspivey3047 I don't hate him because he has a different opinion, I hate him because he is a corporate scumbag getting paid to be a PR jocksniffer who puts down actual great players to push a fake agenda down people's throats.
Nick Wiesel 🤣💀 He’s garbage 💯
How does Nick Wright even have a platform? 🤣
Klutch Sports
Fr mane??
An unstable one.
Lebaby has a billion dollars, so...
Have you seen the iq of these kids today. That’s how.
Jordans peak was from 1984 to 1998. 14 years and he accomplished more then any player in that amount of time and more. He tasted defeat as does any player on a rebuilding team but on the biggest stage, Jordan knows nothing but winning. I couldn't imagine losing 6 finals. my gosh that is not GOAT like at all.
Thank you! How can "the goat" have a losing record in the finals?! MJ went 6-0 and had 6 finals mvps. It's not even close when comparing him and lebron. You are better off comparing kobe to michael than lebron.
Uhhhh 96… MJ won Championship, Finals MVP, League MVP, Allstar game selection, Allstar game MVP, 1st team all D, 1st team all NBA, Lead the league in scoring….oh, and went 72-10
"Yeah, the Bulls set the then-record for wins in a season, but did they win 27 in a row (which isn't a record)?" That's basically what Nick Wright is saying.
Nick wright is a Delusional Lebron Fanboy. He basically spews nonsensical takes and is a hypocrite when debating MJ vs Lebron. Does exactly what he’s blaming others to be aka “Dishonest”. #Pathetic 🤡😂🤣😂
👀💯
Facts
MJ was garbage in the finals that year
Nick conveniently does not mention the play offs 😂
Nor does he mention that he's employed by Clutch Sports, a LBJs company. He's engaging in fraud
Nick is only relevant because he lies about Michael Jordan; at this point it’s no longer embarrassing…it’s just business
And Jokic who he refuses to call the best player in the world because he is boring and white.
Nick counts Lebrons finals losses as championships 😂😂😂😂😳
I mean truly insane. Has to be the only explanation.
Traveling, carrying, and lack of defense have ruined basketball.
Carrying is not a thing bro i rarely see any carries in the NBA travels is more of a problem.
@@emilfrederiksen.1622then you are blind. Iverson carried the hell out of the ball. Isiah Thomas,Tim Hardaway had a tight,strong handle and crossover. Even an assist is inflated today. An out of bounds pass and 5 dribbles later score-it counts as an assist. It's so much worse,but people who never lived through different can't comprehend the difference in quality .
And all that damn crying
@@emilfrederiksen.1622lmao some players carry almost every dribble. Do u even know how to dribble
@@Stefansrb369🤣🤣🤣right, they award assists that shouldn't be an assist so it adds to players stats
Anything Nick Wright says is always wrong. I never listen to clowns like him.
Nick Wright said it best, to paraphrase. "This idea that the nba in the 80's and 90's was like the Roman gladiators in the coliseum is idiotic. Nba in the 80's and 90's was slightly more physical with much worse athletes"
You just exposed yourself by not knowing that much about basketball.
@@vicepresidentmikepence889Jordan, Dominique, Kemp, Chambers, Kevin Johnson, JR Rider, Iverson would adapt if they grew up and played now against five out sets and chubby Euros.
@@vicepresidentmikepence889 Tell us you don't know basketball without saying it.
@vicepresidentmikepence889 stay in ur Cupcake Era. This entire Era is a reflection of Adam Silver the commissioner
The man said MJ never had a better season than lebron's 2013 TF? 😂😂😂😂😂
Lol shit is comical man mj in 88 was better than any lebron year even minus the ring and finals mvp
@@lucianodadon7822literally my thoughts exactly 💯...
With the exceptions of his sophomore year when he broke his foot and when he came back from retirement in the middle of the 95 season, Jordan’s peak was his entire run with the Chicago Bulls.
Jordan taking those two years off then coming back to 3peat again only solidifies his greatness.
If only these Klutch's morons could acknowledge that returning from almost two years of retirement and dominate, with a new play style, is so hard. I've seen profissional athletes, resume, from one year of absence, and losing completely their form. Your body is programmed to perform at high level when you are on top of your game, but if you stop during a season its extremely difficult to get back to your old form. Specially if you are retired from the sport you once dominated.
And when they say, "in those 2 years Pippen still took them to ecf and won 50 games", I remind them of the MASSIVE DIFFERENCE between participating in the semi-finals, and 3-peating twice!😂
@@nathanlawson313it even wasn't the ECF, it was the 2nd round
MJs Dad got MURDERED
18 months=to get his mind Right .. HOUSTON ROCKETS HAKEEM THE DREAM OLAJUWON..KENNY SMITH VERNON MAXWELL ROBERT BIG GAME BOB HORRY OTIS THORPE,,2ND NO OTIS THORPE +CLYDE DREXEL WINS 2.. COMES BACK #45 LOSES IN PLAYOFFS AGAINST ORLANDO MAGIC
SHAQ,PENNY D,SCOTT,NICK ANDERSON HORACE GRANT
...#23
ADDS RODMAN
2ND 3 PEAT 72-10 TEAM WINS #6 AT 35 YRS OLD
STEALS BALL FROM KARL MALONE SPRINT'S FULL COURT SCORES
UTAH MISSES
MJ COMES DOWN SHAKES BRYON RUSSELL
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HITS GAME WINNING SHOT TO WIN #6
MJ didn't do anything amazing by winning with a team stacked full of hofers & HOF HC
One only needs eyes and a half functioning brain to see Jordan was a completely different class of player LeFraud could only ever dream of being
the league was full of lebrons back in the 90s. we just dont remember them, because MJ owned the decade
Facts
When Nick Wright mentioned game 7, I am thinking "jordan never allowed a game 7"
Exactly 💯
I was thinking how he said Lebron had a great game 6. He doesn't mention that Lebron missed the tying 3 pt shot and if it weren't for Ray Allen saving him, they would have been eliminated.
@@hassanorr9078nick wright is a moron who knows nothing about basketball. Like lebron, he cant get past the first page of a book.
The Bulls played some average finals teams, let’s not act like 2011 Mavs wouldn’t been able to beat those teams the Bulls beat
@@greggoose8182 huh???
Gotta love how he always mentions Pippin but no one brings in Bosh, Allen, Birdman, Wade, etc
How about the fact that MJ never lost 3 games in a row as a Chicago Bulls.
The first 3 minutes of this video alone debunks Nick Wright's argument lol
Facts
I've been saying for years, I don't think this Wright guy actually watches basketball...
Nope he just looks at the stats
He’s usually beating off to videos of LeBron
*Nick Wrong
He's to busy staring at Lebalco's junk, pausing& rewinding, just to pause again. Same thing he does with his newest flame, Luka.
His lebron takes contradicts his Mahomes takes
@@rossmccay Brady has the longevity and stats that is equivalent to Lebron’s in the NBA but yet without issue Nick Wright still says Mahomes is better
@@j-slotsfromdabackblockstv8105bruh when he said that I laugh so hard
@@j-slotsfromdabackblockstv8105 wouldnt say brady has equivalent stats superbowl he what 7-3 thats a stat
@@resColts Brady is the All Time leader in both passing yards and touchdowns which is equivalent to Lebron in scoring both players played 20 + seasons Brady 7 rings is an advantage Bron doesn’t have because Jordan has more rings then Bron but even with that fact Nick Wrong consistently makes the case that Mahomes is better. So everything he is champion Bron for in the NBA he’s undermining Brady for in the NFL
@@j-slotsfromdabackblockstv8105 so you meant brady got equivalent longetivity got it.
kinda reminds me of the mark twain quote - ''never argue with an idiot, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience'', there's no use in pointing out the flaws of his logic, he'll just twist things around endlessly to make his nonsense seem plausible
If you really want to turn people against Jordan, just have Nick defend Jordan. This clown is awful to listen to! 🤮
Nick Wright got owned on first things first so he had to do a monologue so no one could call out his nonsense
Seriously, Broussard had him pissing his pants...and really only had to let him talk himself into circles.
Sometimes, he doesn't even let Broussard finish his point cuz he realizes he's getting cooked lol
Saying LeBron is better than Jordan is like saying Creed is better than the Rolling Stones
It's like wiping before you poop...it don't make no sense!
Eh don't shit on Creedens man both are great.
@@emilfrederiksen.1622 he didn’t say ccr he said creed.
💯😂
almost any band is better than the fgn Stones. They suck!
@@goldenruletv7301 so you’re advocating for *NSYNC?
Nick Wright will never live this down just like how he acted when Tom Brady went up against the chiefs.
Great point, and Nick is so delusional he still disregards head to head Brady V Mahomes, in that ridiculous argument as well!!! He's just so ridiculous!!
“stopping right there” haha so good, awesome video. love the channel!
MJ's loss versus the Magic counts, but forget Lebron's whole series versus the Mavericks. Great work Nick.
Nick Wrong referencing that like its something to be ashamed of is absolutely ridiculous. That starting five was arguably the best in the league
PG Penny Hardaway
SG Nick Andersen
SF Dennis Scott
PF Horace Grant
C Shaq O'Neal
First team all NBA players and then throw in a few All Stars.
But to Nick Wrong, MJ lost to some scrubs.
@@JohnWickjr Lol. He's a clown.
Dude lost 2 finals in 4 years, then left after promising 8. Jordan promised nothing and only didn't win when he didn't play.
He didn't win until 1991
@@melvynsngltn27 and still has more rings than LeChoke. 6>3. LeChoke's Mickey Mouse "title" doesn't count.
@@TeddyKGB12 I could care less about LeBron he's your generation
@@melvynsngltn27 wrong. Nice try though, twatwaffle.
If i scored 63 points in a playoff game and still got sweep i try to forget that too
Another point of their nonsense is when they say Jordan played against plumbers, yet all of those plumbers had better stats than Scotty. but for some reason Scotty Pippin wasn't a Plumber. you can't make this stuff up
Lebron lost 3 finals to "plumbers" from the 90's 2007,2011,2014
Great point
@@NwoFreshalso a great point.
Karl Malone, Stockton, Ewing, Gary Payton, AI, Mutombo, plumbers??? Get a life son
@@rafaelrealistictalk6558 obviously you can't read, read it again Gramps
That's the dumbest argument ever. Jordan has a fist full of seasons better
Fr, Nick Wright is just a dumbass who doesn't know Basketball
I hear a lot of reporters say 6 wins in 8 tears, which it was. But, it also was 2 3peats
That says the ratings now.
I never thought that there was a debate between MJ and Lebron, Lebron is nowhere next to MJ but this debate has at least one merit for me, it allowed Uncut Hoops and others to excel in the analysis and objective, relevant research!! And to clearly prove that MJ is by far the best player!!! GOAT!!
I'm not campaigning for the greatest player in the world or in history, I'm not saying that. Because everyone plays differently in different eras - Michael Jordan's posgame press conference after 93 Finals threepeat.
Thank you 👍🏾
we are campaigning for MJ being the goat after the second threepeat
When I did that, that’s when I became the greatest player of all time. -Lebron, some podcast
And that’s why he is.
Chalk that up under - "Things the GOAT would say"
It’s pathetic how Nick Gonzo brings up “27 game winning streak” and “Game 6 & 7” performance like they’re actually accolades. Ignoring that the 96’ Bulls won 72 games and a championship that year. His comparisons are dishonest and flat out hypocritical because he ignores and doesn’t say what Jordan did with his criterias
NICK WRIGHT was on diapers on the 90s 😂
Should be sacked for lying
90s has actual defense, players who wanted to win and not just make an easy cash grab, and didn’t go around making super teams
facts. facts. facts.
was Lebron 'playing' when he HAS NOT PLAYED DEFENSE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS?
He gets one chasedown block every 10 months, about 5 uncontested dunks a game from cherry-picking, and stands flat-footed the other 99% of the time while his teammates run circles around him. Just the worst.
I was a die hard basketball fan but the game today is trash. It's painful to watch
Playoffs are good but other than that its bad and the carrying and traveling is a problem.
@emilfrederiksen.1622 The softness of the league is a problem. It used to be a physical sport. The shooting is better, but now they're just a bunch of giant ballerinas.
I lose track of players after they're drafted because anything past college ball, I don't give a fuck. When they get to the NBA they go brain dead and forget everything they learned in the NCAA. They lose heart for the $$
Nick will never.....mention how lebron got swept twice in the finals
How do these LeBron guys always glorify him for finishing second 🤣 Somehow finishing second in DPOY is an amazing accomplishment we have never seen before.
Lebron couldn’t win it without a super team. he also always lacked the killer Kobe, Jordan instinct. He is soft as can be. Lebron hasn’t even passed Kobe in my eyes 5 chips.
LeFlop is top 30 AT BEST & that's only bc he sucked down PED's for half of his sorry a$$ career.
Nick is a clown why he doesnt bring up the 2011 finals or the 2010 playoffs when Lebron was up to 2-1 and choked those games
Lebrons teammates have had 109 all star appearances and MJ’s teammates have had 10 all star appearances
@@baldeagle4710Lebron’s teammates have combined for 5 All NBA appearances. Pippen by HIMSELF has 6
@@gggyy7104 dwade 8 all nba
Ad 4 all nba
Chris Bosh 1 all nba
Westbrook 9 all nba
Kyrie 3 all nba
Kevin love 2 all nba
So what are you talking about ? In total that way more than Scottie Pippen let not play stupid
7:30. But think about it, LeBalco avg more rebounds, yet it took him over 20 years to reach 1,668 offensive rebounds- which took Jordan 15 years. And offensive rebounds are considerably harder since the defender is closer to the basket. Once again, Jordan did more in less time.
90s basketball sucked so bad tens of millions of people watched the games while they can’t get two million people to even watch a team like the Lakers now. That should tell you everything you need to know.
I’ve been watching the NBA since 1966. The 90s and MJ still is the best basketball I’ve ever witnessed. No ticky tack soft fouls. The game was extremely physical. You could hand check your opponent legally. Today, MJ would average 50ppg. That info comes from todays and yesterdays players. The 90s refs wouldn’t allow all those traveling calls on Lebron. Check it on RUclips.
I agree...🙏🙏🙏
I've watched so many people break down Nick Wright''s Lebron vs Jordan videos. Jordan wins every single time. Cold hard math. Nothing subjective. Just fact checking his claims. Look I don't care who is better. It isn't like I'm getting paid to endorse either one of them. But Jordan was better. In literally every way.
It's weird Nick keeps mentioning winning streaks while on super teams. These ESPN and Fox sports personalities don't know these stats and comparisons to argue for Mike.
LBJs 27 game win streak or never losing more than 2 games in a row for 8 years when MJ was on the bulls?
@@johnceliz9061 never losing more than 2 in a row of course. I love that stat bo one ever talks about
@@ijamorrisFacts
@@johnceliz9061dude that’s an insane Bulls/MJ stat I’ve never heard that before
It is clear that Nick Wright sniffs a line of coke every time he talks on TV about sports.
😂😂😂
Yea he got a big enough nose for it 😂😂😂
He would actually be smarter if he did.
@@gambitacio 💀💀💀
Manu Ginobili he was more worried with Dewayne Wade than Lebron in 2013
Nah Lebron 2013 was amazing but all Jordans seasons 1989-1998 peak that.
The glaring detail that Cuck Wright ignores is that Jordan was the undisputed leader of his teams during his peak. While in 2013, LeBron was at best the number two option on the Heat.
Nick Wright: Lebron played a perfect game 7
MJ: Whats a game 7?
Detroit 1990, NY 1992, Indiana 1998 game 7
@@melvynsngltn27MJ 2-1 in those game 7’s
@MrWARBUCKS24 yet against an actual better team Chicago lost. Compared to the mediocre Knicks and Pacers two teams that were never championship material
@@melvynsngltn27 Nice tryb but those knicks and Pacers teams would roll LeCon and any of the ghey super teams he put together like the coward he is. Their only mistake was having to go thru MJ to get that ring.
Mj won 6 titles in 8 years and a 72 win season..
In the weakest era of team basketball
Uncut hoops does the dirty work. So we don’t have to.
Nick Wright is like Pinocchio that nose just keeps growing and growing every time he tells a lie
13:24 was he playing in ‘94? Which one is it? For nick it seems to be all of the above.
The year LeBron averaged 36,13 and nine in the finals he shot the ball 33 times for game and shot just under 40% from the field. It is funny how Nick decides to leave out that part of the equation just to elevate LeBron while in the same breath, pointing to his shooting percentages in the previous finals because they favored LeBron
Nick will you talk about the balco and PED's
If Lebron had such a perfect season…why were they ever down 3-2?
How you forget 72 wins and rings and games played
In the watered-down 1990's
The Ratings speak for itself
Nick says championships don’t matter. But he says he didn’t even make it to the final. So he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, unless only Michael’s championships don’t count.
Also, Jordan played in a far more difficult era to score or be dominant in, making these clear difference in per game stats even more 1 sided over Lebron
Mj retired for a year in half comeback then won another 3 chips...retiring then coming back is alot harder than playing consistent...Jordan's wizards years was also after a 2 in a half year layouts....without the play-in tournament lebrons lakers are not even a playoff team
Nick Wright was a child (7 yr old) when MJ won his first championship in 91! Why is he given a voice? He was born in 1984!
Never got past age 7 because that first ring destroyed him.
Yet y’all love to use NBA players who were born after MJ retired as “proof” 🤣
And he's on the payroll of Clutch Sports. He has a conflict of interest and should declare his opinions are wholly paid content. Without declaring that connection, he should be sacked. He's engaging in fraudulent behaviour
Im convinced there is NO LEBRON FAN ALIVE that can make the case of LeBron being better than Jordan WITHOUT LYING and being DISHONEST 🤷🏾♂️
Yall remember when Lebron wanted to retire Jordan's number league wide? And then when everyone ignored him he switched back to that number? Dude's a joke without any back bone
As I continue to watch, you obliterate Nick Wright's argument in 6 minutes lol
I still can't believe people give Nick Wright airtime and take him seriously.
He's there for the LeFanbot views.
It's crazy that he can downplay Jordan's 6 championships, but then claim a 27 game win streak for LAflop as an individual achievement. smh
Also the bulls winning 72 games.
Right...Curry had a 28 game winning streak and won the chip, so by Nick's standards he is better than Lebron.
So tired of hearing Jordan vs LeBron. If LeBron would stop saying he's the GOAT and try harder to be the GOAT he might stop tarnishing what legacy he has left. LeBron might be fifth best Laker in history but I wouldn't pick him if I was choosing best five Laker players for a team.
Thank God for this channel keeping it a stack on the nonsense that be getting put out there
Winning games is more important
Winning Championships are what matter
"they don't want you to bring up the times he didn't win in the middle of the 6 championships,"
Well yeah, it would be pretty stupid to count the years in which he wasn't really playing. That'd be like holding it against Lebron for not winning in 2001
If MJ ever runs into Nick... MJ is gonna tell him to lace'em up
If his main distinction between Jordan's 87-88 and LeBron's 12-13 is the LeBron won the championship, can we add in team context perhaps? 87-88 Bulls starting 5: Jim Paxson PG, Jordan SG, Brad Sellers SF, Charles Oakley PF, and Dave Corzine C (HOFer Pippen was a rookie coming off the bench for 21 minutes/game), the only award amongst them was Paxton finishing 13th in most improved player and the only one of those to be selected any all star was Oakley one time for the Knicks 6 years later. 12-13 Heat starting 5: Mario Chalmers PG, Dwayne Wade SG, LeBron SF, Udonis Haslem PF, Chris Bosh C (HOFer Ray Allen was a veteran coming off the bench for 26 minutes/game), a completely player manufactured team with D Wade having 13 all star selections (including in 12-13), all-NBA 1st 2x, and all NBA 3rd team in 12-13 and Chris Bosh having 11 all-star selections (including in12-13). Let's put 12-13 LeBron on the 87-88 Bulls instead of Jordan to see if he makes the playoffs, and 87-88 Jordan on the 12-13 Heat instead of LeBron to see how many games in a row that team wins.
Love your takes, agree 100%
Wright conveniently leaves out so many details. It’s okay to count two shortened seasons for LeBron because he happened to win titles in those years, but we have to count the nearly two seasons in which Jordan was out for retirement? Another thing that doesn’t get talked about now is the fact that LeBron has needed the play-in tournament to even qualify for the playoffs over the past couple of years. W/o that, what do his achievements in LA look like? Let’s face it. He’s had one noteworthy year since he’s been there and it’s stained by the bubble.
Mahomes fans
"we done with the 2000s NFL"
Don't watch today's nfl;it sucks.
Man is obsessed with this whole “peak” shit, it’s his go to argument.
Why won't nick Wright mention Lebron's 2011 finals performance? He won't because he doesn't believe his own argument
You can have your favorite and say he’s the goat but the goat is always determined by the collective, the majority, whether you like it or not. Nobody has been that guy more than Jordan, ever.
Perfect game 6!! Dude had two turnovers and practically threw the game away. If it hadn’t been for Bosh and Ray he would’ve lost again. Dude just likes to recite stats but is either apparent or slick of him to put context into the stats.
Thing is, we don’t have to be dishonest about Mike and this clown and the le media can only be dishonest to keep this lunatic conversation alive. The only player that is close to Mike in a 5 yr span in stats is Wilt. Ten year span no one is close.
Great video!
Hate to say this but James, at 6'9" and 250 lbs 43" vertical never averaged 10 or more rebounds in a season. Just saying.
I can't even listen to Nick Wright..
LeNick ‘Weasel’ Wrong
I want to know is it harder to make it to the finals or is it harder to win the finals and defend your crown 3 years in a row twice. Or just making to the finals 9 times and losing 6 time with one title defense and no threepeats
And you are forgetting the one key factor Jordan got all his championships with one team LeBron had to play hopscotch and skip around two different teams to go to stat team so he can win
I mean, I doubt Nick Wright even believes most of what he says, he just knows where his bread's buttered.
Lebookworm is the goat at reading the first page of a book
Lmao LeBookworm 😂
Pretending to read. He couldn’t even tell us the title of the book. 😂