Allen Iverson Exposes Lebron as the Anti-Goat "Jordan and Kobe are Different"
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- Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024
- Today I do a reaction to a Knuckleheads Podcast video called Allen Iverson on His Hall of Fame Career, Cultural Legacy, Matching Up With Kobe and Jordan & More. Head over to their channel and shoot a like and subscribe, he's great! Link is below:
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I still would take Steph Curry over Lebron all day everyday.
Seconded. Lebron is second string to Larry Bird on my all time team.
@RemoWilliams1227 Bird was better than Curry though.
@@DsLmaNiaC Be serious now
@@tatsuyaradheya3528 Steph Curry is great. Larry Bird on another level.
Yes sir!!!!
I’ve seen Iverson in public 3 times. The guy has no idea he’s famous. Unbelievable down to earth.
What a beautiful synopsis
"HE HAS NO IDEA HE'S FAMOUS"
🧢
You’re absolutely right he’s extremely humble! I’m from Philadelphia and I have seen him in public twice after his retirement. One time he walked in to see an old skool concert at the Philadelphia convention center and the crowd went absolutely WILD! They asked him to come up to the stage to speak and he cried in the middle of his speech as he was thanking everyone for the love he was receiving as if he couldn’t believe it! This man changed the game in many ways, definitely one of the GREATEST EVER!
The guy went broke like 10x and hit rock bottom once or twice… he had to beg Reebok for sneaker money. He seems like a good guy but somehow he always goes broke and has a lot of problems?
I've seen him probably 20 times.. Chuck now very humble Chuck sixer days 😂😂😂 ehhh not so much 😂😂
You wanna be fast like Isiah, shoot like Bird, rebound like Barkley, pass like Magic, be dominant like Shaq. But man... I wanted to be like Mike - AI's HOF speech
Poetry to this old head
@@RemoWilliams1227LBJ is old to
@@RemoWilliams1227LBJ was jealous of Kobe fanboy y'all worshipers LBJ is overrated on steroids
Last sentence.... I dun wanna flop like LeFlop. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Colby’s not even the greatest Laker let alone a top 10 player he ain’t on the heels of Michael Jordan in shit
You can’t push your way out,get coaches fired, pay for media spins and be a goat.
MJ, KOBE
💯
Like KD said “he creates a toxic environment!”
@@markeesebutler last time I checked Kobe demanded a trade but the Lakers made things shake, hell got Shaq pushed out of town. MJ said he not playing without Phil. LeBron has honored every contract he's signed unlike KD, Harden, Kobe, Shaq shall I go on?
You wouldn’t need to get your coach fired if you had Phil Jackson. But when. You got Ty Lue or Mr.Potato head. Stop it.
@ThisIsJRock216 yea go on because Michael Jordan didn't get anyone fired he fought to keep scottie pippen because krause wanted to trade him and Kobe Bryant didn't leave LA so yea keep going!!! Lmfao 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 how many coaches has LeRoid James had in LA and how many since he's been in the nba how many players has he got cut or traded (Westbrook)? The reason he left Miami is because he couldn't manipulate Pat Riley he tried to get his coach Erik Jon Spoelstra fired and Pat Riley told him to shut up and play!!!
I loved Iverson growing up. I appreciate the way he played; he went all out every day
He was SO fun to watch. Dude was a MONSTER!
He’s my favorite of ALL TIME he made me really look into the basketball just in general A.I
Most underrated, unspoken thing about AI is the man was playing hurt a lot while leading the league in minutes multiple times. I think he’s still the smallest and lightest player to lead the league in minutes
WORD!!!!!
Practice?
Recently Jordan mentioned who would light him up - small guards like Iverson
MJ never had to campaign for himself as the GOAT, his game did all the talking
His corporate sponsors did his campaigning.
💯 and still doesn’t need to campaign. Be legendary. Jumpman forever.
Lol...lie!!!
He made a campaign movie, so what are you talking about.
Big facts!
F that I’m taking Allen iverson over Lebron James. I’m not saying AI is better. But I am saying I love Allen Iverson game and his mental attitude.
I believe he is better and if you truly want to win this ball game you better take AI he was truly nice James had a lot of other ppl saved and win ball games for him not these other guys
Exactly. Can you imagine Iverson with LeBron size or LeBron with Iverson heart
Ai won't blow your team up cause he can't play the way he wants, stand around for rebounds l, have shooters for assists and the refs call the fouls on the D when he barrels into them
RUclips let clowns say some of the most idiotic statements.😂😂
Bruh I loved ai growing up but this is crazy
"We all know real hoopers"
"I played against them all"
"Kobe and Mike are different"-QR
Bron dropped 50+ on his head twice. Kobe never. He never witnessed the greatest of Mike. People gotta stop elevating greatness with minimalism.
@@ntmtmorris4250doesn't matter if he dropped 50 points that just shows LeBron is a great player no doubt but KOBE and MIKE are just different
Even AI is because if he was as tall as LeBron there would be No comparison between them AI would be Godly
With the NBA rules in place at the time - which allowed bron to bulldoze his way into the paint? KOBE (with his deep BAG) literally outscored the mavs by himself by the 3rd qtr. he scored 81 pts against the raptors. Bron NEVER did that.
Kobe is undefeated on the international level and he’s the only player to go to 3 straight finals without a top 75 player; a one legged Bynum, an inconsistent Odom, and a GOOD forward in Gasol.
Why tf do people still clown on Kobe’s greatness like he was mid?! Lmaooo smdh
👌🔥💯
@@EniyanValentine zzz they are all unbelievable and bron is especially special being that big you can't compare a guard to a forward they play differently so AI understands those two are different from a guard standpoint LeBron is just as special as Kobe and Michael
It’s insane and to me laughable that there are ppl that attempt to talk down on MJ.
MJ is the definition of the GOAT.
Lebron is great but the GOAT he is not.
LeBron is no great by any means
Mj is the definition? Forgot Wilt? Mj could not surpass lebron stats singularly..
MJ played 15 seasons, Lebron on 21.
I'm a Big Wilt fan!!!!🎉
@@Atlas302And????
The fact that MJ hasn’t played in over 20 years, and is still the standard, is amazing all in itself.
"He showed up" - best line ever... no need to say the name, everybody in the galaxy know who is he talking about... no, its not god that decended from heaven, its the guy, the man, the myth, the legend, the goat, MJ (had to explain just in case some young missleaded people tought was about lebron 😂 )
Wade another one that said the aura in the room changed when MJ walked in and how different it was being there in that group socializing with MJ.
@@jordanjenkins1671Dame Lillard said the same thing
@@jordanjenkins1671😂 eating d
LEBRONDA has GOAT breath. But a GOAT she is not.
Kobe and MJ are on their own level .
The real ones know, Jordan is the goat.
Man thank you Iverson for always keeping Kobe’s name relevant in the media
Seems like its only AI, Shaq, nand Tmac still keeping it real
I love this because it's like an intervention for LeBron fans. Great stuff
I don't think there's anything we can do. They do need a support group or something. "Show us on the doll where the real goat touched you."
😮 you really typed that?@@mr.nimbus537
Lol
They can't be helped. Facts don't matter they only care about specifically Lebrons stats
Facts
I don’t think LeBum is on Mount Rushmore, especially with a loosing record. And he’s definitely not above Kobe.
Kobe is not even Top 10, barely top 15 if you pay attention to his career
@@caliba100so right around the same spot as LeBron?
@@Mhr6685 Bron is the GOAT or atleast top 2. Every great player plated until they were a shell of themselves before retiring. Bron going 22 years strong and still not a shell of himself, and had a peak that rivaled every all time great ever. So he lasted the longest at the highest level
Jordan couldn't even make the all nba team during his wizard years.
@@caliba100 not even close. 2011 eliminated him from that debate, and longevity is no argument with load managing on and off the court while using Peds
That’s your opinion as a Bum but it’s not a consensus opinion.
One is wearing Jordan 4s and the other is wearing Jordan 11s and I think AI is wearing his signature Reeboks. Nobody wearing Leflops
Comments like this remind me people have no real insight on life 😂😂😂
@@sgfgrahamthe1Who spend big money on bullshit manufactured players?
@@LeathafaceTV ?
@@LeathafaceTV in a world full of NPCs...duuuuuh🤣🤣
Everybody want to think alike. Plenty of people have told me "they are not all that...but it's something about them...." Yeah it makes you feel like you belong....duuuuuuuh
What does the shoe he wears have to do with ANYTHING? lol the WORLD wears Jordan's bcuz it's a FASHION shoe smh not just a basketball shoe. Speak something relevant
Am I crazy to think that the whole disrespecting past stars wasn't even a thing until the obsession with LeBron being the GOAT? It just feels like before that it was just a respectful debate but then the Lemedia and Lestans got in their feelings and made it personal. I respect Allen Iverson despite my introduction to him being the infamous "We talking about practice" rant lol
Good point 👍
@@frozentspark2105LBJ is overrated in old
Your 100% correct, LBJ followers tend to disrespect others in order to try to elevate Lebron, who do you think came up with the whole “we done with the 90s” thing that was Lebron fans
Absolutely untrue. People were and still do disrespect Wilt Chamberlain and Bill Russell.
It's when Wilt Chamberlain told Jordan he'll never be the best cause he knew a guy with 11. Then Wilt reminded the world of the fact that they made rules to stop him from scoring, but made rules to help Jordan score
I wonder if it happened out of retaliation. 2010-2016, some fanatics claimed LeBron was catching up or passed up MJ, the rest of the basketball world pointed out all the ways LeBron has and still falls short of MJ, the Klutch Sports plants and fanatics parroting their arguments took it personally so they attack whatever they can about MJ out of spite.
"Game respects game" where is LBJ respect of Jordan? Sure he respects Jordan to his face yet he pays for so much disrespect in the media.
It’s a competitive sport bro
What number does or did he play in ? 23 dumb 🥓riding 🤡
LeBron talk better about MJ. MJ is the one paying media like skip and Steven A
@@caliba100MJ don’t need to do that his Accolades does it for his legacy 💯🤷🏾♂️
@Twoofus0525 u didn't even respond to the statement..
I’ve been a lifelong Laker fan, having lived through the Showtime, Shaq, and Kobe eras in Southern California. From the very beginning, I could sense that Kobe was unlike anyone else. While he’s revered uniquely in Los Angeles, what truly astounds me is that his fiercest defenders are often his fiercest rivals. Popovich, Suns fans, and Celtics fans (including Bird and Russell) come to Kobe’s defense in a way that completely caught me off guard after years of rivalry. In today’s polarized society, I have immense respect for that.
AI is perhaps the best example (his letter to Kobe broke my heart) and MJs eulogy not far behind. Game sees game no matter if you’re a rival fan, one of the greatest coaches in history, or the greatest player.
BTW: this conversation isn’t about LeBron vs MJ as GOAT. It’s specifically about Kobe being dismissed entirely from the debate. AI, along with most who actually played in the association, has a real issue with that. They ain’t worried about Jordan’s legacy, which is all but untouchable.
I don’t understand why nobody never considers DR.J the GOAT ! He did it in two different leagues at a high level & he helped to merge the ABA WITH THE NBA ! DR.J was doing moves that people never saw before during his time but he never gets mentioned DR.J did major damage & only used pretty much one hand 🤚🏾 can you imagine if he had used his lefthand ✋🏾 too ! But the GOAT is definitely not Lebron king James ! If you wanna say Air Jordan or The Lord of the Rings Black Mamba Kobe Bryant is the GOAT I Understand but it’s definitely not Lebron his Ring Attempt Record alone should eliminate him from that debate ! Just my take respectfully ✊🏾
I agree. Underrated
interesting, it's one of my and my pop's favourite players yet he never even cracks top 25 on most goat lists - i'm trying to think why, maybe it's his game not being super complete, maybe just one ring and only with moses, maybe also cuz he was very calm and well-spoken and never really tooted his own horn... not sure. certainly very underrated
@@mike_tkgchs True Indeed I think we are both on the same frequency ! ✊🏾
Love doctor j. Was my favorite player growing up as a kid in the late 70s, but doc wasnt a defensive problem, only 2 way players can be talked about as goat
Dr. J got his props when he was playing, and for a few years after. But that young man came in as the Doc was winding down, and doing many things more than Doc ever did. So Dr. J became a great of his era. Jordan’s skills and tenacity keep him relevant, and ahead of today’s era.
What you stated around the 15:00 min mark. Talking about fan bases bashing other players. I never hear Kobe fans( me loving Kobe & mj equally) bashing on MJ ! That little segment just made me notice that. I guess some people just know the pecking order. The eye test never fails. And Lebron ain’t ever touching them both.
that's the thing - it's never been a hot debate. you can have kobe as your goat, or kareem... nobody is gonna disrespect that! they were all-time greats.
but when one guy self-proclaims himself as goat and king... oh boy.
@@mike_tkgchsSo what if he declares himself the goat.... after all he has achieved in the game. Ali always referred to himself as the goat.
@@michaelbobbitt4585 yea i dont care about boxing, we talking hoops here. my point stays.
Jordan fans do not have to teardown other players to make MJ look better. Lebron goofy fans are the biggest Scottie Pippen fans only to use him to disrespect MJ. Lebron fans love to make hypothetical arguments for Lebron being greater than MJ.
You’re saying that the while this comment section is literally tearing Lebron down because of their personal opinion. For 1 other’s personal opinions shouldn’t matter and why not just respect both?
Lebron fans are slow
Because we know how good he really was.
Bron has basically made a new type of player. Charges to the rim, gets helped out by the refs for and 1s, and stands around on defense.
He's a 3 and no d player.
Lebron the Goat. stop crying
Lebron is not even in the top 10.
What JORDAN has done, it’s taking a LIFETIME for LEBRON to do!!!!!!
Longevity is what BRON BRON FANS IS HOLDING THEIR HAT ON
Just like you holding on to them 6 championships because you know damn well if Jordan was the leading scorer of all time y'all will be bragging about that too
@@ThisIsJRock216 stats don't make the goat
Thatz all he has is longevity (Stat padding) !! Jordan Put Tha Spot Light on tha NBA !! Lebron reaping tha benefits for wut Jordan did 4 tha Game !! Lebron cheated tha Game 2 win his Championships period !!
@@Hsauce429 correction Magic & Bird put the spotlight on the NBA. And Jordan couldn't beat either one til they got old.
@@Hsauce429 he cheated by honoring ever contract he's ever had and never demanding a trade. OK you win.
“someone told me michael jackson couldn’t sing” had my cryin. that’s such a boss way to say “get lebron out of this conversation.”
“Like a person actually told me Michael Jackson couldn’t sing” really being the goat of this video for real.
Micheal Jordan was so once-in-a-lifetime superb that if we ever see a better player, we would know it without questions. MJ was the Michael Jackson of the NBA!!
Iverson was a killer himself. He never stopped coming hard.
Yup. Killers recognize other killers. MJ, kobe, and AI all had lots of respect for each other
Exactly Iverson killed many players on the court like Kobe has and when LeBron got in the league they weren't around Iverson retired😂😂😂
1. MJ
2. Kobe
3. Magic
4. Shaq
5. Bird
6. Kareem
7. Bill Rus
8. Curry
9. Wilt
10. Duncan
There is more than enough to make the claim that these guys have made a huge impact on the game. The big part about them is that some stayed on the same team while the rest stayed for majority of their primes and careers on the same team. Stay with one team and building that team up is far more impressive than what we have seen Lebron do. He’s on Mount Rushmore or he is very close, but that is it.
Dope list ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THEY STAYED ON THE SAME TEAM ... 👍
Greatest NBA players all time top 11
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Magic Johnson
5. LeBron James
6. Larry Bird
7. Wilt Chamberlain
8. Hakeem Olajuwon
9. Shaquille O'Neal
10. Tim Duncan
11. Kobe Bryant
Kareem greater player then Kobe anyday
Rings
Kareem 6 ✔️
Kobe 5
League Mvps
Kareem 6 ✔️
Kobe 1
Finals Mvps
Kareem 2
Kobe 2
Total Mvps (league and finals)
Kareem 8 ✔️
Kobe 3
Points score
Kareem 38,387 ✔️
Kobe 33,643
Field goal%
Kareem 55.9% ✔️
Kobe 44.7%
Kobe Bryant isn't top 2 player all time proof you don't know basketball at all lol
Jordan, Kareem, Russell only 3 players in goat convo lol
Kobe no where near above Kareem or Russell 😂
Kobe Bryant ain't never be in debate he has no case as goat
Goat 🐐 Jordan 6 fmvps best player on all his teams championships unlike Kobe 2 fmvps
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings
@@StephonAllen-dn2uwhave pippen ever won a championship without Jordan?
hakeem ?
Curry not better than lebron..kd..or dream..get real
I usually laugh when I hear Bron over Kobe 😂😂😂😂can’t even take that serious 😅
I'd take Iverson any day over lebron, any day....
Me too!
Yeah, maybe one day I can help you write a book about lebron's antic's because that alone deserves a whole book to be written about.
Yes Kobe is 2 not LeBron, Leborn brought back a bronze medal Kobe brought back a Gold on his 1st tried.. Kobe after shaq left LA.. he got back 2 title with no other top 75 ! Mj had so is Leborn. leborn lose to a team with lesser top 75! Mami Heat!. Base on this Kobe is the debate not Leborn !
Lebron actually made the team after his rookie year and hardly played. Not a good argument at all lol. Kobe would not have been good enough after his rookie year to make the Olympic team.
@Play2Hiswill yea, but you're laughing at him when his point outways yours. Kobe was good enough to get drafted out of high-school just like lebum. On lebums first try, along with two other players he teamed up with to win a championship, brought home a bronze, two times. It too for kobe being recruited by coach k to help lebum win his first two. Now that he finally won one after being to what, 4 I think, he's better than mj. He ain't even better than kobe. But hey, lebum is all yall know.
@@terrysanders914 yall boys be so hurt lol! If you bothered to read or think before responding out of your little baby feelings. I was laughing at the argument he used and the same one you are using it's one of the weakest arguments you could use to big up Kobe or Jordan honestly. Calling a great basketball player a bum just shows how emotional and weak you are. You ain't probably did nothing in your life that's the only way you could say something like that. Anyone who has done anything knows how hard is to accomplish things let alone be the best for any amount of time. You probably haven't been the best at anything at anytime in your life. Not a spelling bee, not monopoly, uno, skipping stones nothing but got the nerve to call a player of Lebrons stature a bum. You can feel someone is not the best or you don't like them without hating on what they actually are.
@@terrysanders914if only Kobe wasn’t a rapist he would’ve had 3 gold medals then
LeBron was a 19 year old who only got 11 minutes when he earned Bronze
I truly do not think Lebron is better than Iverson
Skill wise? AI all day. Lebron just has the achievements but if I'm picking a starting 5 I'm picking AI over him all day.
Lebum is not a killer. He's a weak minded, non-competitive coward who didn't want to beat the best competition. He wanted them on his team for an easier path.
A 6 foot 1 version of Lebron would not make it in the nba. Lebron has no real skill. A bigger iverson would be even begged
Lebron was anointed by sports media as King James before he ever stepped on the floor for the Cavs. These were guys who mostly never played the game at a high level. Larry Bird said after the 63 point game that it wasn't Michael Jordan in that game; it was God disguised as Michael Jordan. Reggie Miller called him Black Jesus.
He’s ignorant
Somebody tell me please! When tf did Lebron jump over Kobe?
@omar.lo714
He came in the league better than Kobe … Kobe couldn’t get off of the bench as a rookie … Bron came outta high school averaging 20 (as a rookie) in the Association !
2016
@@Born8etter he wasn’t better. The coach of the Lakers at the time wasn’t into giving rookies minutes.. look it up. LeBron was never better. If he was he would’ve made all those finals and matched up with Kobe in 2008-2010 during that Nike puppet commercial run.. Bron never lived up to the hype so the manufactured it with super teams
Space Jam 2 I guess. And passing his scoring number. Thats when "media" (some) I guess, felt that way.
Lebron ain't got Kobe heart
@@oshe1 space jam 2 flip flopped; you know RARELY does the sequel top the OG. Especially like over 20yrs later
This conversation is on point. Iverson spoke the truth. Thank you
Thsnk u!
I may be off base....but Lebron couldn't "challenge" Jordan for the GOAT Title because Kobe Bryant presented a monkey wrench in James' plans (Kobe 5x NBA Champion) so I beleve Bryant had to be deleted in order for James to further pump up his accolades like a person using a pumping machine to inflate a patched up bike tire and stand up next to Michael Jordan, the CLOSEST to be referred to AS A SUPERHERO.
Kobe's 2008-2010 postseason runs are all-time incredible because of the number of 50+/55+/60+ teams he beat to win those rings. Only Hakeem's teams and the Shaq+Kobe teams matched that in a postseason, if I remember correctly. Nike hyped up a Kobe v LeBron 2009 Finals but LeBron fell short in some crucial ways (such as 4th quarter turnovers, letting his defensive assignment go off on a scoring streak late in the game, etc) in the 2009 ECF and quit in the 2010 ECSF.
It's taken a Klutch Sports media takeover to revise history and make people forget what happened pre-2016.
@@jordanjenkins1671 Killer breakdown!
In my opinion MJ, Kobe, Bird, Magic and Hakeem are the best players of all times. They had it all. Pure fundamental, skill, technic.
that's a damn good list
Dr. J
Bird is above LeBron
You high as 🦒 draws!!
@@anthonydonaldson5841 Kobe won back to back chips without a top 75 teammate.. After Lebron seen Kobe win his 5th championship he ran to Miami to form a Super Team with Wade & Bosh… Wade admitted they formed the team after seen Kobe win his 5th chip.. Lebron was even trying to get CP3 and Melo to join him… Lebron didn’t want to compete, he wanted to stack the deck with his banana boat brothers to win… That’s your so called wannabe Goat? Lol 😂… Lebron’s 3 chip plus a bubblegum chip is not comparable to what Kobe accomplished…. Jordan and Kobe are on a different level…. Kobe played his entire career in the tough Western Conference… While Lebron cake walked to Finals after Finals with stacked superteams… Kobe beat Orlando, and the Celtics super team that sent Lebron home lol… Context matters in life…
@@harrym9655cant accept the fact that after all the things you have said, he still going strong and the best player in the league and will still be even if your parents die.
Yeah u buggging tf out
AI took one for us man he sacrificed him self just to prove that MJ is the real GOAT.
and just for the record if Iverson had all the hall of famers Lebum had he would've achieved more than he did.
LeBron is better than Iverson and Kobe. He's better than both in EVERY stat, but ft%.
But no, screw stats right. How can anyone argue against your feelings. It's dumb
@@simonhowell4486better stats but still didn't win more despite playing longer
@@simonhowell4486i’m pretty sure you haven’t touched a ball in your life. You’re just like those espn analyst who doesn’t know shit and base your opinion on numbers. Numbers that don’t have context. 😂
Tell me, who should we believe? You? Or those 3 guys in the video who actually played in the NBA?
@simonhowell4486 stats don't win titles bro so yeah leroids played longer stacks teams to get his stats has the league trying to help him be the new King and he still failed he's a loser
@@albundy5492 so then by your definition Bill Russel is the greatest Basketball player ever because he has 11 Championships, now keep 🤫
Kobe didn’t want to make the free throws. Go back and look at his face. I think he almost missed the first one. That was one of the moments that made me respect Kobe. Kobe’s immaturity almost derailed his career. That game for me was like when Neo wrapped the cable around his arm and tried to catch the helicopter. Morpheus was like, “He’s starting to believe”. Do you think Jordan would have missed those free throws if the roles were reversed? Kobe had to ruin his heroes final greatest All Star moment. That’s what people don’t understand today. You play to win. No mercy for the weak.
If MJ wasn't mad at Kobe for it, then I'm not mad either. MJ the type to hold grudges his entire life, but he had a years-long strong friendship with Kobe.
By giving his best to beat him. That was the greatest respect Kobe could have given MJ. For all the conversations and lessons MJ had already passed onto Kobe up to that point in their brotherhood.
Iverson is my GOAT. Pound for pound, inch for inch, the greatest. And I'm secure in that, so I don't have to debate it.
Pound for pound he's the goat for sure
I would take Allen Iverson before I take LeBron all day everyday hell I'll take The Waterboy before I take LeBron that bum cheated the game and no one say anything about it. It will come out soon
Didn't you hear Iverson said himself LeBron was better than him? Lol...be smart.
I bought that Iverson '03 ASG jersey for that exact reason back in the day! I thought it was so cool that they did that for Jordan's last ASG
Can you imagine what they said to each other off camera about the anti-goat, all the shortcuts he has taken and how he whines to the refs and throws temper tantrums jumping up and down stomping his feet like a 5 year old kid.... there's no way he could be the goat ......Jordan is the🐐!
You nailed it 💯
Lebron fans say that all star game where kobe locked lebron up was" just a game" Nah kobe was showing yall viewers in real time who the better player was proving a point lebron aint want no smoke he was shook lebron know deep down Kobe a fckn monster a maniac
yeah Kobe was making a statement that day
Great video it touched much needed and avoided topics. With all that said . Kobe is my goat .
I respect that. Mamba was a beast
Goat never flop. (end of discussion)
☝️
Great and Factual Commentary! 💯
I don’t like Allen Iverson being this humbled
How so? He had his scrapes. He had some run ins with the law for violence as a teen. He lost a big chunk of his money. Reebok put a bunch into in effect a trust so he doesn’t overspend.
He’s AI, warts and all.
Additionally, Jordan talked about people who could beat him 1on1. Small quick guards. He mentioned AI specifically (with some others)
This here Podcast was one of the realest... Chuck is always gonna have my Love and Respect...!! The shear honestly expressed by each individual is priceless...!!❤❤❤
Yeah i really enjoy this pod
Really liked this video alot. One of my all time favs for sure. Great job
74 of 75 nba stars are drinking at a bar.
Then JORDAN enter the room.
love it.
Kinda unrelated but Iverson is from my hometown and my dad got to watch him in high school. He said that not only was AI better at football but he was probably the best football player he had ever seen. An elite QB, elite CB, and an elite kick/punt returner. Absolute freak of nature
no lebum is not on mountrush at all he had alot of help by team mates by nba adam silver the refs and so more
Get somebody normal to say it and get somebody that has credibility to say it.
So you're saying his teammates are solely responsible for him averaging 27/7/7 at 50.4% fgp over 21 years, being a 20 time All-Star, 20 time All-NBA, 6 time All-Defensive team, 4 time MVP, 4 time Finals MVP, 3 time All-Star Game MVP, top 10 career scoring (total points and average), assists and steals? Only two players have better INDIVIDUAL accolades than that, MJ and Kareem, who are the only two I rank higher on the GOAT list.
These Jokers are Delusional . They clearly don't know NBA history .Jordan and Kobe were NBA Losers without that Phil Jackson Cheat Code Offense . Jordan led 3 Of the worst Playoff Teams ever from 1985 - 1987 / 1 - 9 in Ten games , Got Swept Twice without Phil Jackson or Scottie Pippen . Jordan was a Legendary 193 - 187 All Time without Scottie Pippen Playing in his Games or as a Teammate . Kobe was a Bench Warmer for his first 3 Seasons . He was 171 - 243 from 2012 - 2016 without Phil Jackson . So that Jordan Fear or Kobe Mamba Mentality is a Bunch of Nonsense .
The Truth is LeGOAT is Different . His NBA Records are literally Unheard Of / Unparalleled / Unmatched . Nobody Before him or After him has or will Copy his Basketball Skills , SIze , or Speed . He is a Unicorn 🦄
These Jokers can't Name any Superstar in NBA History that
Has won 4 Finals MVPs in 3 Cities In the West or East within 2 Seasons per City for 3 Non Phil Jackson System Coaching Staffs playing with either an All Star Team or a G Leaguer Scarecrow / Pumpkin Team . All of his Teams Disintigrated into Mediocraty after he left .
Single Handedly Led a Team full of Scarecrows and Pumpkin No Name Cast Off Players or Coaches to the 2007 Finals
Led TEN Teams in 14 Years to the Finals for FIVE different Non Phil Jackson System Coaching Staffs .THREE Were Rookie Head Coaches
Led TWELVE Teams in 16 Years to the Conference Finals for SIX Different Non Phil Jackson System Coaching Staffs .FOUR were Rookie Head Coaches .
Personally Traded as GM half of his under performing Teams Mid Season for Younger Players from losing teams and either Led his Teams to the 2018 Finals or the 2023 Conference Finals .
8 Eastern Conference Titles in a row Playing for Two Cities in 8 Years .
Defeated the Greatest Regular Season Team ever (73 - 9 Warriors) 4 - 3 in the 2016 Finals , Down 3 - 1 .
Record 28 7 7 Stat line for 21 Seasons and counting
Record 40000 Points / 11000 Assists / 11000 Rebounds / 2000 Steals
All Time Scoring King in the Regular Season and Playoffs . 2nd All Time in Finals Scoring .
Top 4 All Time in Assists
Top 8 All Time in 3s Made
Top 3 in 3s Made in the Finals only Trailing the Splash Bros of Golden State .
Top 5 All Time in Double Doubles , Triple Doubles
All Time Leader in Double Doubles , Triple Doubles in the Finals
All Time Leader in Playoff Scoring Assists Steals
Record 20 All NBA or All Star Selections
More All Time Points than Jordan , more Assists than Magic . More All Star and All NBA Selections than Years Jordan or Magic played in the NBA
Will be the Only Sports Player ever to have Statues and His Numbers retired , in 3 Cities .
Has beat all 30 Teams Scoring 40 Plus Points per Game
32 - 0 when Up 2 Games in a Playoff Series
3 Time Gold Medalist
Mid Season Tournament MVP and Top Scorer .
Has Faced the Toughest Gauntlet of Multi All Star Superteams in Finals History / NBA History .
Only NBA Player ever to Play with his Son in an NBA Game this Season .
Only NBA Superstar ever to be a Player / Head Coach / GM / Player Developer / Player Recruiter / Player Evaluator / Game Planner / Team Constructor for 3 Championship Cities he delivered to
Only NBA Player ever to Play or Defend any 5 Positions for 21 Seasons at an All NBA / All Star / All Defensive Level , winning a Scoring or Assist Title in a Season .
All of this Without a College Career , Top 50 All Time NBA Teammate , Rebounding King DPOY , Rule Changes to benefit him , or using that Phil Jackson Cheat Code Offense ..
Who was the best player on the court ?. Semi finals? Finals ? By far Steph curry . Lebron was good and consistent kd at times great steph was all world and won those last two games . If Michael was on those teams what do you think he would have been doing ?
MJ is just the 🐐
LeBron is not a mountain Rushmore player. He hasn’t worn a single championship the right way and he had to stack teams. He doesn’t have an argument over Michael Mad Kareem, or Bill Russell, who has federal resumes and did it the right way
Comin in hot while I'm doing yard work. You're right on time friendo.
Exactly...tell 'em Iverson!🏀
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Excellent analysis as usual
Thank you!
MJ is my guy my goat and Kobe is right behind I mean on his heels. No disrespect to others that's 1,2. Bron 13. I've been subbed like 4 or 5 years now
1,2 Mj Kobe, bron is 16
@jayblue6426 💯 agree. If Lebron had Duncan humility, he's 5-10 range. But his toxic impact on the NBA keeps him in the teens for me.
being ignorant is a choice and you've eliminated all other choices. no objective reasoning or stats will get kobe in the top 5 let alone top 3. your standard has to be shooting guards that play like jordan because wtf
@@RightHandKam He has always quit on teams the eliminated him from being top 10. He quit on Cleveland last game . He quit on Miami, He quit again on Cleveland after all those promises he is not a men of his word.
@@bboywolfthat’s the problem, it’s not based off stats. It’s very contradictory to say that one player is better than another based off of stats
Mike alday. There will be another player like him for a long time ⌛️
Never. Society doesn’t produce people like that anymore
MJ and Kobe are Beavis and Butthead and everyone else is Stuart
Thanks for bringing original video down to 24 minutes.. I was looking for this on the original video which is an hour and some change long
Thank you for checkin it out
Jordan...Kobe....Shaq.....A.I....the Dream .top 5
Thats a fun lineup!
Legend says it was Michael Jordan who walked in the room
lol
Allen Iverson is the only player to go to the NBA finals literally by himself
edited: and had the nerve to win Game 1 .... by himself.
Yeah he put those 76ers on his back that year and they went for a ride lol
@@TheRealMindCrimeI tell so many about Iverson taking the Sixers to the finals and LeBron never took the Cavs there his 1st or second year
I've been saying since the media started pushing the narrative that Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant are number 1 and 2 respectively and lebronze is not in the conversation, nor is he in the top 10.
I agree. When and how did he pass Magic or Bird?
@@almightysanointedsquad8221when did Kobe pass Magic&Bird?
@@JerichoCastilleWhen did Kobe pass Shaq?
@@criticalthought4910 Never.
Onlly stats nerds would argue that Bron is the GOAT. Layers. Mike and Kobe different.
Lebron is the only guy people only use stats for. Lebron fans don't use eye test, skill set, rings, era, level of perimeter defenders he faced, pace of play. They take none of that into consideration. Just pts assts rebs and fg percentage. they don't just look at stats for Westbrook or James harden lol
I know MJ was the goat But, if I was picking squads to play, I'm choosing Magic first. He was my guy and his version of NBA basketball was electric and beautiful.
Scenario: If anyone had to pick their best player. Let's not even include MJ.
Okay. If you have one pick and after making that pick, you can't pick any of the other hall of famer
LeBron vs. Magic, Bird, Wilt, Bill, Kobe, Barkley, Olijuwan, Shaq, Dr. J, Oscar, Ewing, Duncan, Robinson, Iverson, just to name a few. If you pick LeBron, you can't choose none of the other players.
Now, Jordan vs. All of them. Who are you going to pick?
if it's to start a team, and have one player that just complements everybody else... man, it's either MJ or Kobe. definitely not lebron cuz i'd have to build the team that complements him instead.
I'd take that young Magic any day over any of them.. go back in the 80s video vault and look at how Magic would do Jordan when Jordan tried defending him!!!!😮
@@randybutler1697 i see your point, magic had some size over jordan (we are talking mid 80s magic vs. early 90s jordan i assume) and he would share the rock a bit better than MJ . not sure if i'd have magic as clutch although i'm sure he could. but yea not a bad pick at all.
@@almightysanointedsquad8221 If I had to pick a player to build a team, it's either Bird or Kobe, even Curry
@Kings0424 Exactly. So, how is LeBron the GOAT if he's not the first pick out of any of those guys?
What makes it worse is that Lebron doesn't even win in stats per game like at all. 😂😂😂
Why Lebron is better than Jordan. The GOAT BAHHHHHH
1 - Because he won a playoff series without a HOF teammate. He beat a Superteam (3 HOF’S) in a playoff series.
2 - 1 had 10 scoring titles, taking 30 shots per game (Lebron passed him in total FGA in year 20?), and 1 has scored 40,000 points and is 4th all time in Assists, passing Magic Johnson.
3 - He never had a teammate who leads him, ALL TIME in Assists, Rebounds, Blocks, 3 pointers and top 10 with in him Steals - ALL TIME PLAYOFFS in, Assists, Rebounds, Blocks and Steals.
4 - 6 final losses EXCUSES in context.
Got his team to the finals at 22 without a HOF teammate.
Played worst superstar series ever, lost to Mavs who swept the defending champs.
Been to 3 straight finals curse in the 4th year egs Piston, Bulls, Lakers, Heat.
Lost his 2 starters to injuries.
Last 3 MVPs (2014,15,16) together on 73 win team that was 3 pts away from bac to bac champs.
5 - 6’9’ 260+ he’s Bigger, Stronger, Faster, more Durable and Versatile. Can play 4 positions.
6 - He led both teams in a playoff final in Points, Assists, Rebounds, Blocks and Steals. TWICE.
7 - His teammates including the ones that got traded ALWAYS got paid e.g timothy mosdgov.
8 - Played with his son , and 1st to make a billion whilst playing.
9 - Only player top 100 in 6 cat - Points, Assists, Rebounds, Blocks and Steals, 3 pointers made.
10 - He played 20 years at the top without breaks, getting to Conf finals in 20th, and playoffs 21st .
Fu8k the ‘Jordan rules’ What sound does goat’s make
Wilt and MJ certainly have better stats than lebron.
@@richardturner1063wrong
@@richardturner1063 👈found the bronsexual, a member of the 4and6 kingdom. Adding longevity stats was a nice touch.
Jordan’s early career the next best players were Orlando woolridge and Charles Oakley, figure that one out 🤔 not to mention playing against teams like the 80s Celtics, pistons, and his first loss to the Sydney moncrief bucks.but you probably don’t know anything about any of those teams or players. They don’t have TikTok’s.
LeBron is nowhere near as durable as Jordan just look at how many times they played every season.
You do realize there’s this thing called the internet you could fact check before typing and looking like a fool? MJ averaged 23 shots per game for his career to Lebron’s 20. That’s not much of difference now is it, especially considering Lebron is a pass first player 🙄
@@richardturner1063lebron also played with Dwade and Chris Bosh stop the bs
In my opinion, i believe Kobe was never thought of as a number #2 to Michael Jordan for a few reasons. Reason number one, Kobe stats aren't the greatest, 5 championships yes but, only one regular season MVP is always held against him in the media. Two, the SA charge, once that happened, people began to turn on Kobe and he could never do anything to regain the image that people loved him for. Three, Kobe never came into the league as himself, meaning, he literally did his best to copy everything Michael Jordan did and i'm not blaming him for that because overall, he was the closest thing to Jordan, athlete wise but, we really never got a chance to see who Kobe really was as a genuine player and person. I myself never liked Kobe, i thought he was the best worst shot taker in the league during his time but, i could never take away from his accomplishments and 5 chips is greater than 4 and he did it with the team that drafted him.
Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Kareem Abdul Jabaar, and Bill Russell, are in a room by themselves, everyone else is on the outside looking in.
kobe won 3 chips with a player significantly better than him
bro. The league has many good players but they have never won 1 League MVP.
You need to fact check what you are posting.
@@bboywolf 'significantly' LOL. Kobe was literally top 5 in both MVP and DPOY voting as Shaq's teammate while averaging 29. Stop. In any other era that player has an argument for best in the world. Shaq's legacy would look very sus without Kobe.
@@Levi-lr4vi in 02 kobe was 5th in mvp voting with 96 points (wowwww) compared to shaq with 696. for reference Scottie Pippen was 5th in 1996 with 226. kobe had 1 vote for DPOY in 2003. Larry Bird top 3 in DPOY in 1983. was scottie pippen ever close to michael jordan? larry and kobe both finished at best 3 in dpoy. Shaq was top 50 all time before kobe played 1 nba game you're lost
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this!
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LeBron came out of highschool scoring 25 his first game
In a weak ass division.
The NBA wanted him to sports are rigged and scripted
Tired of The Kobe disrespect.. I got Kobe over LABronny.. ANY. DAY.
same here. AI is sick of the Kobe disrespect too.
No, LeBron better than both of them
@@TheRealMindCrime LeBron is better than both of them in my opinion
Me too, Kobe was a certified killer on the court, MJ is the best and Kobe is 2nd and number 3 is probably LBJ but LBJ doesn’t have that killer instinct 😎
@@josephlash7910 that's your opinion and opinions are like A-Holes because everybody has one!! Lmfao 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
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You know who else in that room with MJ & Kobe? A.I. & SHAQ. They all had that same mentality in my opinion.
Shaq didn't have that mentality. Kobe criticized him saying he could have been the greatest if he worked harder.
Great commentary from both u and the guys in the video
thank you!
GOAT 🐐 James💪🏾haters gonna hate👊🏾
Is it me or is there too many people that have podcast
Knuckleheads is a solid show though. I wish Bird, MJ, KG had a podcast just Talking Trash on sports and roasting today's soft stars.
As many podcasts as there are, i would definitely watch that one though.
Love to see Mike just talking comfortably like he was on The Last Dance. MJ can be funny as hell too@ImportAl
@@ImportAl yea knuckle heads been here for a while I'm just talking in general
Let them talk, why does he keep stopping it and talk over it.
Love this real talk interview ❤
when a room full of the NBA greats are in awe of just one player ever....Thats true greatness...MJ is that Guy!...
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Do we have footage of this ? If there is Please share the link. . 😊
THATS IT!!! One of my personal favourite players have spoken!!! Mike is the GoAT!!! 😍😍😍😍😍
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I would like to see more discussions like this. From real top NBA players. I only recently found your channel. I really enjoy your commentary. it took a few videos. But i just subbed. 👍
Thank you so much! I love hearing other greats share their opinions too. I get really excited during vids like this one
Im glad I just caught Iverson at age of four in his last seasons with philly. I remember how he played in 05 and 06 all star game. And ofc he went off in Denver despite it being a short tenure.
I agree with them whole heartedly!
Me too.
Thank you AI … 🙏🏻
ALWAYS 🟡🟣2️⃣4️⃣💪🏻♥️
learn B BALL history.......Jordan had 33 career....... 50 pta games........Impressive,.. WIlt averaged 50.4 pt a game the ENTIRE 1962 season. Not even close..............
Lebum is on Mount Rushmore for physical ability but not for greatness. He's won 3 non-covid titles in 20 non-covid seasons. ALL WITH STACKED SUPER TEAMS!! EASY ROUTE!
12:10 he’s talking about people like you😂. Y’all mj fans get mad when someone doesn’t have him #1. You been on record saying you hate Lebron. Even only watch Lebron negative videos and you know it lol. Still enjoy the videos tho
Thanks for making that comment about Bird fans. I am the biggest Bird fan he is and will always be my personal goat! He to me in his prime could take on anyone because of his all around play. Mike has so much respect for Bird. He doesn't let anyone disrespect him. Because he battled bird as a player and a coach. I love Mike so I have to put Mike 1A and Bird 1B. I love to hear these guys talk so respectfully of Kobe! He was one of my favorites of all time. Love AI. I just love basketball. Lebron is great but not greater than Mike. Bird gives his flowers to everyone (except Lambeer lol).more people should have the attitudes of these three guys ❤. Loved this video!
Yesss!!! Bird fans and jordan fans are always respectful to the all time greats.
You is absolutely right
thank you!
I loved A.I as a player. I even got my hair braided back in the day. Even tho I am a mj fan/bulls fan A.I was so incredible to watch. Was and always will be a fan of his game.
Me too. When i think of philly i think of dr j, AI, and charles.
BTW B ball is a team game.....there cannot be a GOAT, there can only be GOATS......ALL TIME best team......and that is this,. Allen Iverson pt guard----------------------Micheal Jordan guard -------------- Larry Bird fwd------------Elgin Baylor Fwd --------------- WIlt Chamberlin CENTER.....chickiity check it