15 NBA Legends That Played All 3 LeBron, Kobe & MJ Say Who's Better

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  • Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2024

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  • @suppaman12
    @suppaman12 3 года назад +5559

    When you’re great, you tell everyone. When you’re the greatest, everyone tells you...

    • @misterpogi23
      @misterpogi23 3 года назад +66

      💯💯💯

    • @pelnarius2446
      @pelnarius2446 3 года назад +212

      Nailed it right on the head. Jordan's take might be fake humility, but at least he isn't bragging. Kyrie won that series for Flopron with that shot. If not for that, no Cavs championship, yet he takes credit as GOAT after someone else saved the game for him. He seems to forget that he didn't make the shot. I think MJ was sincere when he did that interview, but since then I think he knows he is the GOAT. And Shaq calling Wilt the most dominant is in that same realm. Shaq KNOWS he was the most dominant, but won't call himself that.

    • @tombanaski3251
      @tombanaski3251 3 года назад +61

      Great quote from Walter Payton, and it is 100% true about just about anything.

    • @tombanaski3251
      @tombanaski3251 3 года назад +80

      @@pelnarius2446 you bring up great points. It would have been a titanic clash to see Wilt vs Shaq in their primes---Wilt was an off the charts athlete and said to have been the strongest ever to play the game. Shaq was a freak of nature, for a man that size to move like he could. And I agree--I think Jordan was being sincere and recognizes the game has changed enough that comparisons are moot. One thing that is seldom mentioned is LeBron, with his 2" and 60 lb advantage over Jordan also has enjoyed an era where he cannot be touched going to the basket, whereas a smaller Jordan could get hard foul after hard foul without the player being ejected, yet not only missed far fewer games than LeBron by year but still scored more points if you take equal numbers of years (15) as well as played defense better AND won the dunk contest twice. Sorry, no comparison.

    • @pelnarius2446
      @pelnarius2446 3 года назад +104

      @@tombanaski3251 They also don't mention the amount of money Floppy James spends on conditioning. Jordan did what he did while drinking scotch, smoking cigars, gambling all night, then kicking everyone's ass the next day. He also retired three times, came back twice, and still dominated.

  • @RJSAMCRO
    @RJSAMCRO 2 года назад +543

    Can we also point out that MJ took 2 years off to try out for baseball after the first three championships, then came back after not playing ball to win three more in a row. I was one of the lucky ones to be alive in MJ's era got to watch him play on tv and once in person. Also another little fact about MJ. No matter what team was playing at home if MJ was going to be there it was a packed house because even fans of other teams wanted to witness MJ live. It was something to see.

    • @alexander4615
      @alexander4615 Год назад +2

      "FYI"did you knowwhy he makes that early retirement??

    • @clemzgrace6831
      @clemzgrace6831 Год назад +1

      @@alexander4615 why did he retired early?

    • @joe-zj8js
      @joe-zj8js Год назад +12

      Dont forget 95 ... they lost to shaq before they got rodman.

    • @mrwatdahell2871
      @mrwatdahell2871 Год назад +9

      And that's just some of the reasons Michael Jeffrey Jordan is DA G.O.A.T!!!!!

    • @mrwatdahell2871
      @mrwatdahell2871 Год назад +18

      FYI he left the game after the 1st 3peat because his father was KILLED!!!!!!!

  • @estybuenaventura9274
    @estybuenaventura9274 3 года назад +237

    “ MJ ALL DAY “. Ray allen said👍👍👍

  • @arnelsadie8067
    @arnelsadie8067 7 месяцев назад +34

    Michael did it because of his generously God-given ability to fly... and Kobe did it because he poured his heart and time into it... Mamba is an amazing example of "practice will make you do it"... his whole life revolved around basketball

  • @lordtebagman160
    @lordtebagman160 Год назад +535

    Mj was just as aggressive on defensive as he was on offense. Never worried about getting tired🧐

    • @jlen82
      @jlen82 Год назад

      Lebitch would say what’s defensive.

    • @templetonbob
      @templetonbob Год назад +19

      So was Kobe

    • @visibleangle7147
      @visibleangle7147 Год назад +5

      Dude defense?? Hahahahahah in the early period! Watch the old videos

    • @Durellegaming
      @Durellegaming 11 месяцев назад

      mj did play defense what u mean he won dpoy so what are u even talking about @@visibleangle7147

    • @wolfiewiggins2810
      @wolfiewiggins2810 11 месяцев назад +3

      Kobe wasn’t relentless on defense, he picked his spots. He could’ve been much better.

  • @garryjohnson9328
    @garryjohnson9328 2 года назад +896

    The way Iverson praises Kobe just makes me feel a certain way 👏

    • @thsu8
      @thsu8 2 года назад +64

      Killers respect killers.

    • @jasondidgeridoo1367
      @jasondidgeridoo1367 2 года назад +9

      ..The mamba man, a certified serial killer...

    • @mhightower21
      @mhightower21 2 года назад +58

      Iverson knows Kobe is the only reason he doesnt have a ring. They absolutely battled in the 2001 Finals. It was amazing to watch

    • @8ludovico
      @8ludovico 2 года назад +5

      Yeah dude!
      Gives me chills!

    • @dashlivingston5975
      @dashlivingston5975 2 года назад +17

      He called him a serial killer 😭 rip mamba

  • @parkermudsen1063
    @parkermudsen1063 3 года назад +779

    GP, summarized it the sentiment perfectly. What separates MJ and Kobe the most from lebron is that their mentality. MJ and Kobe don’t even know the meaning of tired in the heat of a game.

    • @jay-oz3yh
      @jay-oz3yh 3 года назад +30

      Agreed. The think about MJ to is that he loved the challenge and took everything personally, which drove him to be the greatest. Not just that, but the athleticism and speed he has is crazy

    • @GJG_3
      @GJG_3 3 года назад +59

      Let's stop this mentality shit LOL What separates MJ and Kobe from Lebron is their SKILL. They are literally the 2 best basketball players to ever walk to Earth. MJ and Kobe have the 2 best mid range games and footwork of all time. Kobe on the other hand had a pure shot from 3 and crazy handles. I don't understand how Kobe can be better than Lebron in every aspect of basketball except passing yet ppl still think LeBron is better. Ngl Kobe got some weird hate from the NBA. Only 1 MVP when he should have had 3 or 4, and then David Stern personally vetoing the cp3 trade when they allowed Miami big 3 the year before. My list is Jordan, Kobe, Wilt, Lebron in that order. I can confidently say MJ and Kobe won't lose a 1v1 to anyone under 7ft. Then you got Lebron out there getting clapped by Michael Beasley in 1v1's.

    • @tien5tri
      @tien5tri 3 года назад +35

      Kobe wasnt gifted with Lebron's physical feature and natural talents. All Kobe had was the killer instinct and drive to always try and beat you. And from that drive he worked on his game to become the 2nd greatest. Even if Lebron gets a 5th ring he will not win over Kobe. He just doesnt have that killer instinct that MJ and Kobe had. Also he bounced around teams. I think that fact will always linger in people's minds when comparing Kobe and Lebron. A die hard laker til the very end or a ring chaser always having teams built around you the second you sign the dotted line.

    • @GJG_3
      @GJG_3 3 года назад +18

      @@tien5tri Couldn't agree with you more. I just wanted to point out that it's more than Kobe's mentality that separated him from everyone else. He's 10x more skilled than Lebron and even Jordan. Lebron and Jordan are probably the most athletic players ever. Jordan had the skill to go along with it that's why he's the goat. And yea Kobe stuck through 3 years of a g league roster when Shaq left. And he could have ring chased after his achilles injury but stayed. The Iverson clip stands out the most to me...did people really just forget the shit Kobe did? Hands down the 2nd greatest and easily the best scorer ever (along with Wilt).

    • @parkermudsen1063
      @parkermudsen1063 3 года назад +20

      @@GJG_3 but mentality's a huge part of it. That's what kept Kobe and MJ from doing silly shit like flopping, team hopping, etc.
      Also, it's that mentality that never allowed them to get outplayed by a role player for a finals series.
      Lastly, at no point did Kobe or Mj have to be pushed to a "legacy on the line" game before they showed the heart to lead their teams to a championship.

  • @markunak6593
    @markunak6593 10 месяцев назад +25

    You all missing Timmy. Best 2-way player, 5 titles, won 70% of his games, never a losing season, 19 straight playoff appearances.

  • @gt6293
    @gt6293 2 года назад +398

    I love that Michael Jordan doesn't say he's the goat, which makes him more than the goat, everyone on this planet knows he's the greatest ever, even LeBron.

    • @JordanKidd2323
      @JordanKidd2323 2 года назад +7

      Man blow this man comment up why yall HATING this comment hit 3 facts

    • @nastystew6942
      @nastystew6942 2 года назад +10

      That's why LeBron wore 23

    • @dwaynebeamon5105
      @dwaynebeamon5105 2 года назад +5

      Love LeBron but have mad respect for Jordan for taking the high road on this

    • @keithjoseph128
      @keithjoseph128 2 года назад

      He definitely knows he the goat.

    • @jakubkrivanek3112
      @jakubkrivanek3112 2 года назад +11

      That's what kind of disqualifies LBJ from the goat conversation for me. MJ and Kobe were both beasts and they were exciting to watch every night. LBJ is cold and calculating, often making cheap moves and allways concerned about his overall greatness more than the game he is playing.

  • @DavidMey83
    @DavidMey83 2 года назад +912

    All these greats have spoken but people who never played in the league wanna say otherwise. MJ and Kobe are unmatched!

    • @TheGr8-1
      @TheGr8-1 2 года назад +33

      MJ is unmatched. Kobe is like a counterfeit MJ.

    • @jaredfullmer5104
      @jaredfullmer5104 Год назад +15

      Kobe isn’t even a top 20 shooting guard statistically in fg%, apg, rpg, bpg, spg
      Most players that played with all 3 for very long played with an 18-20 year old Lebron and he still schooled them

    • @goatjames328
      @goatjames328 Год назад +8

      Legoat

    • @goatjames328
      @goatjames328 Год назад +5

      Paul peirce just called lebron the 🐐

    • @OneNOnly79
      @OneNOnly79 Год назад +32

      Facts and lebum doesn't even come close to them. I don't like the video cause it mostly talked about MJ & that bot lebum the queen of flops james

  • @tbus809
    @tbus809 3 года назад +584

    This why I have so much respect for MJ, even his thought process respects his predecessors. The absolute difference between elite players and great players.

    • @tylerdinger9859
      @tylerdinger9859 3 года назад +7

      bro you really believe that shit he said😂 that dude wanted to seem humble for the camera he didn’t gaf bout no predecessors😂😂

    • @riffsthatkill2180
      @riffsthatkill2180 3 года назад +4

      @@tylerdinger9859 absolutely. He argued with Wilt face to face over who is better, and thought he was better than Wilt.

    • @NightsChapterSeven
      @NightsChapterSeven 3 года назад +10

      He says that because that’s the only thing he can admit to. He never competed with his predecessors so he can’t truly just say he’s better. He would love to have the chance to play his predecessors so that he can win and brag about it.

    • @boudyslim4812
      @boudyslim4812 3 года назад +2

      @@riffsthatkill2180 that's because he definitely is better... my ghost grandpa who was amputated during ww2 played against the dude

    • @foodin5ish
      @foodin5ish 3 года назад +7

      and mj did it all with so much style, if a player wants to be goat, they have to beat mj in stats and do it with moe style, not likely to ever happen. kobe is the closest thing well see for a while, he made it look so good like mj.

  • @vaticinus
    @vaticinus 10 месяцев назад +40

    Michael Jordan transcended basket ball. Thats what sets him apart from everyone else.

    • @Physics072
      @Physics072 3 месяца назад

      Larry and Magic saved the NBA it might be like the WNBA if not for them. MJ carried the torch.

    • @jimmulcahey9312
      @jimmulcahey9312 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Physics072 in between when Wilt retired and Magic Bird entered the league the game was very thuggish. This is part of the reason but not the only one why even the finals were not shown live on television but instead they were taped delayed. Yes Magic and Bird saved the NBA. Jordan then carried the torch and the league was able to hype his career and the league to a level never seen before or since.

    • @Physics072
      @Physics072 2 месяца назад +1

      @@jimmulcahey9312 I agree I lived it watched it all. Loved Jerry West and even the old Celtics with Hondo. in the Pre Bird Era.

  • @WrittenScriptures
    @WrittenScriptures 2 года назад +72

    Michael Jordan is above them and they know it. The phase “the Michael Jordan of” became a thing in society and it signifies excellence in whatever field. Kobe, Lebron and whoever else that came after. Are excellent no doubt in their own right but Jordan was in his own league there’s no denying it. Others going to bed, Jordan still playing ball after all the crowd left. Others can reach the summit but Jordan will forever be the mountain.

  • @mrmidnight32
    @mrmidnight32 3 года назад +2820

    Anyone who actually thinks James is the GOAT. Was born after 2000. Facts 😂

    • @dbsti3006
      @dbsti3006 3 года назад +108

      I won't argue there. Lol.

    • @vinnyvega7860
      @vinnyvega7860 3 года назад +92

      Not facts

    • @imnick693
      @imnick693 3 года назад +206

      Anyone who thinks MJ is the GOAT was born in the 80s, and use old head logic to try in validate their argument. When most players in today's league are better shooters and better shot creators.

    • @maestrosock9360
      @maestrosock9360 3 года назад +101

      @@imnick693 1999. Michael Jordan is the best. Where that argument goin now?

    • @Impactframess
      @Impactframess 3 года назад +69

      @@maestrosock9360 you didn’t even see mj play so you just meat riding lmao.

  • @kofirey6752
    @kofirey6752 2 года назад +102

    MICHAEL JORDAN RAISED THE BAR ON THE NBA AROUND THE WORLD 🌎
    NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THAT 🏆

    • @luciousbattlecat2618
      @luciousbattlecat2618 Год назад +2

      Yup, the dream team has produced ALL of these euro players! Thank you Mike

    • @RVY13088
      @RVY13088 25 дней назад

      Actually John Stockton pointed to that.

  • @jimmynickels6248
    @jimmynickels6248 10 месяцев назад +6

    I like the way this guy puts these videos together 👍🏼

  • @MrROUBAIX72
    @MrROUBAIX72 3 года назад +542

    I don't see Jordan when I watch LeBron,When watching LeBron, i see Magic..I see Jordan when I watch Kobe..at the end of the day..they are all great players 👍

    • @stephengilramirez7214
      @stephengilramirez7214 3 года назад +18

      Lebron is different of jordan and kobe lebron is GOAT

    • @ahfei6847
      @ahfei6847 3 года назад +33

      LeBron is nothing like magic... Completely different styles

    • @sluground2457
      @sluground2457 3 года назад +25

      @@ahfei6847 facts, absolutely disrespectful to compare magic to lebron, magic was filthy lebron is not

    • @duaddylipa2987
      @duaddylipa2987 3 года назад +20

      @@stephengilramirez7214 in your dreams kid

    • @blackpoloo715
      @blackpoloo715 3 года назад +1

      Sooo True 💯💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @gauravgrg7139
    @gauravgrg7139 3 года назад +388

    My respect for Allen Iverson for putting up the respect for Kobe.
    He is one of the greatest basketball player we have.RIP Mamba❤️

    • @FreedomFighter2112
      @FreedomFighter2112 2 года назад +2

      Total Achievements: (Titles, MVPs, Finals MVPs, 1st All-NBA, 1st All-DEF)
      1) Jordan = 36
      2) LeBron = 30
      3) Kareem = 29
      4) Kobe = 28
      4) Duncan = 28
      6) Magic = 20
      7) Russell = 19
      8) Bird = 17
      9) Wilt = 16**
      10) Shaq/Hakeem = 16
      **Would be a lot higher but All-Defensive Team selections didn't start until 1969
      BTW, Players like Durant = 12, Giannis = 10, Curry = 9 and a couple of others still have a chance on making it into that Top Achievement list before their career is over.

    • @travisjazzbo3490
      @travisjazzbo3490 2 года назад +1

      Kobe's efficiency stats, which are stats that really matter, make him average. He was known as a 'scorer' right? His last-second shots clanked 75% of the time. He never one time shot over 50% from the field in a season in his entire career. NOT ONCE... his lifetime FG% is sub 45%, which is average. That means he shot a lot... that is all. In the Laker's first 3 championships, 2 of which were legit, he wasn't even close to being the best guy on the team, with Shaq being the most dominant player in the league in those years. Kobe wasn't even in the same league as Jordan or even LeBron for that matter... BTW, LeBron is working on his 10th season I believe shooting over 50% from the field, and of course, his triple-doubles are light years ahead of Kobe, and a long ways ahead of Jordan also... LeBron is the closest thing to Jordan, except he doesn't have Jordan's heart and drive and quiet leadership skills, which takes him down a lot in the spectrum, but still far ahead of Kobe

    • @georgegraboske3725
      @georgegraboske3725 2 года назад +10

      Jordan is the GOAT and Kobe is right behind him. I don’t care who is 3rd

    • @steviesevieria1868
      @steviesevieria1868 2 года назад

      @@FreedomFighter2112 basketball is a team sport, you’re giving team accomplishments to individuals.

    • @steviesevieria1868
      @steviesevieria1868 2 года назад

      @@georgegraboske3725 Wilt is #1 … Kobe was only an all-star at avoiding traffic.

  • @boxandshades412
    @boxandshades412 2 года назад +518

    I knew it's always gonna be MJ top #1 but I'm happier knowing Shaq, Charles, and Allen and many others rank Kobe over Lebron. Rest in Peace Kobe! Mamba forever!

    • @stevenalsop9750
      @stevenalsop9750 2 года назад +31

      Always Kobe over leBron

    • @ferrarimafia2322
      @ferrarimafia2322 2 года назад +23

      It's not even a debate #Mamba

    • @heywassup3672
      @heywassup3672 2 года назад +18

      ikr everyone puts lebron over kobe but kobe is better

    • @hadeselgin
      @hadeselgin 2 года назад +20

      Game on the line, Kobe taking the last shot, not lehron, 100 out of 100 times

    • @autismspectrum-k7y
      @autismspectrum-k7y 2 года назад +6

      @@heywassup3672 lebron > kobrick

  • @bjmartin1215
    @bjmartin1215 7 месяцев назад +6

    Jordan is very respectful of the greats of the past.

  • @rockyherreralapore5897
    @rockyherreralapore5897 3 года назад +443

    A lot of fans in this generation didn't see how entertaining player jordan is

    • @jordanwilson3120
      @jordanwilson3120 3 года назад +48

      They didn't see kobe either tbh the average fan today started watching in 2013-16

    • @craydenxxx1744
      @craydenxxx1744 3 года назад +4

      @@jordanwilson3120 truje

    • @supremium6841
      @supremium6841 3 года назад +43

      @@jordanwilson3120 and they're the most annoying era of fans of all time

    • @basher03
      @basher03 3 года назад

      Was

    • @tdup191
      @tdup191 3 года назад +18

      @@supremium6841 swear. Watched bball for like 3 minutes and think they're opinions matter 😂🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @daeHaoG
    @daeHaoG 3 года назад +759

    MJ's game is beauty to watch, all moves are smooth but so effective at the same time. There will never be another Mike 🐐

  • @selim6857
    @selim6857 3 года назад +205

    I like what Iverson said. Well said they forgot the Mamba #8/24

    • @Moorfeeus
      @Moorfeeus 3 года назад +11

      they forgot about Olajuwon too!!! unstoppable !! still leads the league in blocks!! only player ever to block Kareem's skyhook, at the peak!!

    • @ronaldlewis1761
      @ronaldlewis1761 3 года назад +4

      @@Moorfeeus you mean wilt chamberlain

    • @crazycrazy5111
      @crazycrazy5111 3 года назад +1

      @@Moorfeeus lmao, he didn't block no kareem skyhook

    • @Moorfeeus
      @Moorfeeus 3 года назад +1

      @@ronaldlewis1761 him too...my bad.....Olajuwon more impressive, cause he was the shortest postman at the time

  • @amosfrench7452
    @amosfrench7452 5 месяцев назад +6

    Kareem, Bill Russell, and Dr J , all are goats !

  • @GiriRam
    @GiriRam 2 года назад +131

    Legends and Players who actually played in NBA: MJ, Kobe, Lebron
    The media and others: MJ, Lebron, Kobe
    Lebron: I am the greatest

    • @tcgrant3267
      @tcgrant3267 2 года назад +2

      😂😂

    • @efisgpr
      @efisgpr Месяц назад

      Kobe and MJ: NBA record 9 first team All-NBA defensive selections.

  • @nin9hun33
    @nin9hun33 3 года назад +564

    I watched all three of these guys and by far I’m taking Jordan over the two! But, Kobe would definitely be my #2 LeBron #3

  • @Vinny.X
    @Vinny.X 3 года назад +221

    Different mentalities. MJ never took even a minute off. From 86-91, 5 seasons, MISSED ONE TOTAL GAME. The second 3-peat after baseball, MISSED ZERO GAMES. Nobody in this era has that mindset to ever approach Jordan's greatness.

    • @Mexecho
      @Mexecho 3 года назад +22

      Think Kobe had same mindset.

    • @chibill467
      @chibill467 3 года назад +6

      Stokton though

    • @Vinny.X
      @Vinny.X 3 года назад +18

      @@Mexecho Yes Kobe did. Definitely not Lebron.

    • @HeathOverledger
      @HeathOverledger 3 года назад +5

      @@chibill467 Might as well add Karl Malone (slippery slope)

    • @magicmikejory
      @magicmikejory 3 года назад +2

      Sick mentality retiring in your prime…

  • @johnnyrcook
    @johnnyrcook 6 месяцев назад +3

    Jordan was truly an unstoppable force of nature. I’ve never seen an athlete like him in any sport. Guess that’s why he was ranked greatest athlete of the 20th century.

  • @mercurypluto7422
    @mercurypluto7422 3 года назад +130

    Michael Jordan's era of defense is the hardest so rough and tougher then lebron's

    • @washburn11000
      @washburn11000 3 года назад +14

      FACTS bro. The NBA now is HORRIBLY soft smdh 🤦‍♂️

    • @I_like_turtles_67
      @I_like_turtles_67 3 года назад +17

      Put LeBron in a time machine and let him play a game against the Bulls, The Pistons, The Jazz, The Lakers... HE wouldn't win a 7 game series against any of them. Even with a cherry picked dream team.
      He'll he was part of a USA basketball team that DIDNT win gold lol.

    • @washburn11000
      @washburn11000 3 года назад +4

      @@I_like_turtles_67 FACTS bruh

    • @jmoonsimm4730
      @jmoonsimm4730 3 года назад +5

      @@I_like_turtles_67 yea because there were tougher defensive players also to name one Denise Rodman a beast on defense

    • @jonkauf4812
      @jonkauf4812 3 года назад +2

      And just the fact that Jordan had his insane scoring averages in that era... I can't even guess how many pts a game he'd have in today's league!! No defense, games have higher scoring totals these days. Jordan might put up 50 a game haha

  • @DrRish-wx3wf
    @DrRish-wx3wf 2 года назад +38

    MJ transcended the NBA. Greatest ever!

  • @Blackriver69
    @Blackriver69 Год назад +190

    MJ never took a night off. I live in Sacramento and clearly in Jordan's era the Bulls did not need him to play to get the W vs the Kings but Jordan still laced em up every single time he came to Sac. Mad respect. Watching MJ and Mitch Richmond go at it was a pleasure.

    • @ArigatoGyroo
      @ArigatoGyroo 11 месяцев назад +2

      mfker he literally retried for 2 years lmfao

    • @daviddavis3684
      @daviddavis3684 11 месяцев назад +23

      ​@@ArigatoGyrooso what. Took 2 years off to play another sport. Came back an won 3 more. Was still unstoppable an the greatest after taking 2 years off. Lebron has never been the greatest or best player a single season he has played. He cant win 3 straight even 1 time.. damn sure couldn't take 2 years off an come back an even win 1 damn sure not 3. He's a joke

    • @Blackriver69
      @Blackriver69 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@daviddavis3684 Way to totally miss the point genius.

    • @TownBizz-r1d
      @TownBizz-r1d 11 месяцев назад

      C Mitch n Oakland

    • @1flash3571
      @1flash3571 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ArigatoGyroo He was forced to due to gambling. He was sooo big that they couldn't just ban him, so he was forced out for 2 years. Look what happened when he came back. He and his team won 3 straight championships AGAIN....If that doesn't tell you how great he was, then I don't know what does.

  • @bradlewis3719
    @bradlewis3719 8 месяцев назад +6

    It's fun to discuss, but so subjective. We are so fortunate to watch highlights from so many players whose talents are so incredible!

    • @efisgpr
      @efisgpr Месяц назад

      MJ is objectively the GOAT

  • @ayuubnur4013
    @ayuubnur4013 3 года назад +924

    I find it weird how most players, a primary source, say that Kobe > LeBron yet the media tries its hardest to make it say LeBron > Kobe

    • @kofro3618
      @kofro3618 3 года назад +82

      Because literally in stats accolades peak he wipes kobe

    • @geralddecosta320
      @geralddecosta320 3 года назад +94

      It's the Bronsexual Agenda parroted by Blindbackers (blind witnesses)

    • @jjj9861
      @jjj9861 3 года назад +86

      lebron is a puppet thats why.

    • @davidmeza3157
      @davidmeza3157 3 года назад +43

      That’s because media members want to have access to the queen for interviews

    • @RexT3rra
      @RexT3rra 3 года назад +40

      LeBron beat Kobe 16-6 In career games.

  • @demetrioslater8633
    @demetrioslater8633 Год назад +218

    LeBron said by him bringing Cleveland the 1st Championship made him the GOAT. M.J. did the same w/ Chicago and bringing that same team 6 Championships.

    • @dodgerswschamp5166
      @dodgerswschamp5166 10 месяцев назад +1

      Can't agree more

    • @treyspencer3101
      @treyspencer3101 10 месяцев назад +35

      You know... at the end of the day I guess it doesn't really matter. But I think the reason it bothers me so much is because I don't think Lebron has the qualities of a champion. I think Lebron is weak under pressure and a poor leader. He takes credit for success and blames the people around him whenever he fails.
      Quite simply, Lebron does not possess the values that set a person apart as "The greatest of all time".
      People don't realize when they put Lebron James up there as "The greatest of all time" they are actually devaluing the very meaning of the word.

    • @treyspencer3101
      @treyspencer3101 10 месяцев назад +13

      There are a few players over the years that I think displayed a toughness and determination that no one else had. I think Kobe was one of them, so was Bird, so was Magic, and MJ is at the pinnacle of them all. There are probably a few others, Kareem and Bill Russell come to mind. Maybe Tim Duncan. But it's a short list. And I don't think Lebron is on that list.

    • @tebonete
      @tebonete 10 месяцев назад +1

      MJ the goat but Bron was saying he bought back a championship by beating the greatest record of all time 73-9) beating the greatest team made him the goat is what he's saying

    • @ARod-kr6df
      @ARod-kr6df 10 месяцев назад +12

      LeBron sounded so dumb and stupid after he said that. I think even LeBron himself realized how dumb and stupid he sounded after he said that

  • @aaronporter2180
    @aaronporter2180 2 года назад +630

    The moment was never too big for MJ. I saw LJ look small in the finals. MJ never let that happen.

    • @marioturcotte7938
      @marioturcotte7938 2 года назад +30

      Yea lebron disappearing against the mavs in the finals and also disappearing against the celtics the year before is hard to defend. All i can say for lebrons case is after that mavs series he never disappeared during the playoffs again. Mj and kobe are really different than lbj though and kobe had some failures but it wasnt lack of trying. I mean kobes first playoff series he air balled three 3s and got eliminated because of it. That could of ruined most teens but he just worked harder. And during game 7 against the celts where he obviously had a horrendous shooting night he never got deterred after three quarters of poor shooting he still put up 10 in the 4th which was more than anyone else on either team and he got 15 rebounds in the game.

    • @koshinaden263
      @koshinaden263 2 года назад +10

      @@marioturcotte7938 yeah im not a lebron guy myself but one thing that i always will give him credit for is since 2011 he has almost always delivered.

    • @lees5953
      @lees5953 2 года назад +15

      😂😭His team way by far better, what do you mean. He never faced a team that posed any real threat. That’s a hard task. I watched those finals live, dude the teams are anything near the Bulls. The Bulls could’ve won without MJ.

    • @koshinaden263
      @koshinaden263 2 года назад +36

      @@lees5953 "bulls coulda won without mj" 🤡🤡

    • @lees5953
      @lees5953 2 года назад +8

      @@koshinaden263 😂If you get them nuts of your mouth. I just need a yes or no did the Bulls make a deep playoff run and almost make the east finals? Boy MJ wasn’t anything without Scottie. Scottie take the best player ever night. 🤡is your seed.

  • @Apple_Teck
    @Apple_Teck 2 месяца назад +2

    My favorite quote from Chamberlain on why Jordan couldn't be the NBA goat was this one, “The difference between you and me is that they had to change the rules for me so I couldn't dominate. They changed the rules so that you could.”

  • @chrispennie5830
    @chrispennie5830 11 месяцев назад +64

    I’ve watched all three and love all three but Jordan was the most insane thing I’ve ever watched! I’m not forgetting Kareem, Magic and Larry! Those are my eras! Wasn’t alive to see Elgin Wilt and Bill! All great in their own right! Jordan just had a little something extra!

  • @DRScott-hb6vl
    @DRScott-hb6vl 2 года назад +72

    I’ll never forget watching Jordan for the first time. I was all about Magic Johnson. Then my best friend said the bulls game is coming on watch what Michael Jordan can do. I sat down like man forget Michael Jordan who the heck is Michael Jordan. Let me watch this game and see if he everything you say he is. Man that guy put on a show!! Dunks reverse Layups you name it. He was like a video game character. His moves were like next level. Good NBA players looked silly trying to hold him. That one game made me a believer. So yeah Mike will always be the greatest!

    • @mjboutin7224
      @mjboutin7224 7 месяцев назад +2

      I love this story!

    • @888jimm
      @888jimm 6 месяцев назад +2

      Have to agree, Laker fan born and raised....MJ gave it his all both ways every night awesome.... just jealous 😂😂😂

    • @affiliatestud
      @affiliatestud 5 месяцев назад +1

      1st time I ever saw Jordan was against the Knicks right after he won the dunk contest in Seattle...fav player ever since

    • @paulplourde2690
      @paulplourde2690 Месяц назад +1

      I remember watching MJ in 85 and he was unbelievable, and I was a Boston’s fan. I said right then that this guy is the best Basketball player I’ve ever seen and he was quick. I never seen Kobe or LeBron with the speed a young Jordon had. He put on a show for sure. He was great. Nobody ever watched Jordon in the 80’s must

  • @jonpoon3896
    @jonpoon3896 3 года назад +642

    For those wondering why Kobe got left out for a while.. during his career, he played the villain so well that much of media. They didn’t start to really give him his flowers til he was about to retire.

    • @rogeliouribemusic
      @rogeliouribemusic 2 года назад +30

      So spot on ! They wanted him out of the sport but how when your the best

    • @soramirez5473
      @soramirez5473 2 года назад +23

      he was a selfish player for much of his career, especially early on.. sorry, but its true..

    • @rogeliouribemusic
      @rogeliouribemusic 2 года назад +40

      @@soramirez5473 shouldn’t take away from his achievements

    • @soramirez5473
      @soramirez5473 2 года назад +5

      @@rogeliouribemusic no, but if im picking a team to win it all, i will pass on him for less selfish players.. I will say that he is the 2nd best shooting guard of all time.. so unless Im having two shooting guards, he wont be in my starting 5..

    • @dlogan7808
      @dlogan7808 2 года назад +29

      Lbj is always trying to call himself which is a joke. Kobe n mj nvr needed to

  • @calvinneal6627
    @calvinneal6627 8 месяцев назад +3

    If I was 19 and never seen MJ play and watched a bunch of clips I could still figure out who he was🐐

  • @BigBadWolf..............
    @BigBadWolf.............. 2 года назад +192

    I think the difference is really between the mentality of Kobe and Mike brought vs the mentality Lebron brought. Jordan and Kobe were competitive at everything. They hated losing more than anything. I don’t think they were as obsessed with being the best of all time but instead they wanted to be the best player on the floor at all times. I honestly think that’s why Kobe retired. I think he didn’t want to be the second or third best player in the league.

    • @margy9702
      @margy9702 2 года назад

      LEBRON WILL NEVER BEAT KOBE AT ANTHING HE DON'T HAVE THE MENTITY

    • @kayhuncho1015
      @kayhuncho1015 Год назад +20

      kobe admitted after he retired he didn’t hoop much because he found it useless since he wasn’t trying to be the best anymore at that part of his life

    • @alexander4615
      @alexander4615 Год назад +4

      I disagree with your comment about kobe's retirement,he retire because of his achilles injury,I wonder what will happens to lebron if kobe will play 2 to 3 more yrs. I dont think that he will be aknowledge😂😂😂😂😂

    • @alexander4615
      @alexander4615 Год назад +1

      The injuries that he has forced him to retire even he does'nt want to..

    • @kirkgaiter2568
      @kirkgaiter2568 Год назад +1

      But Kobe quit against the suns

  • @ronn14n
    @ronn14n 2 года назад +178

    Its weird how NBA players who’ve seen them play put Kobe over Lebron yet the media tries their best to say that Lebron is over Kobe

    • @margy9702
      @margy9702 2 года назад +16

      NOT TRUE KOBE WILL ALWAYS BE BETTER NO MATTER WHAT MEDIS SSY

    • @human6729
      @human6729 Год назад +6

      Because money is in now

    • @acjnse8258
      @acjnse8258 Год назад +5

      Lebron clearly better

    • @BellBivDeveau
      @BellBivDeveau Год назад +7

      Larry Bird would mind eff them both and walk away with the MVP

    • @Kuroganemk2
      @Kuroganemk2 Год назад +1

      Cos Lebron has way better stats than Kobe, Kobe's finals stats are abysmal he only had 1 really good goat type finals series in 2002 the rest were below average shooting.

  • @viewfromthemancave1092
    @viewfromthemancave1092 2 года назад +259

    Mike was incredible defensively as well. Consistently all nba first team defense and was the defensive player of the year in 87.

    • @bennymoret1339
      @bennymoret1339 2 года назад +23

      Don't Forget....First Defensive Team
      Last Time 97-98 With 35 Years Old.
      9 Times in 13 Years With The Bulls.
      10 Scoring Champion in 13 Years.
      M.J Played 82 Games 9 Times Of 13
      Defensive Player Of The Year, Leader
      In Steals, And Scoring Champion With 35+ Points Per Game....That's
      Spending Energy.....Also in 1988-89
      M.J.Play Like 23 Or So Games at Point Guard.... Because Regular Point Guard John Paxson Injury His
      Knee....And Bulls's Head Coach Doug
      Collins Send M.J.to Play Point Guard
      No Problem For M.J. (15 Triples Doubles in 23 Games....7 in a Row And The Day That The Streak Was Over At 7 Going For #t 8, in a Row.
      in That Game He Put (42 Points)
      (14 Assist) And (8 Rebounds)....
      (5 Steals) and (2 Blocks). The Next
      Day in The Papers. The Headline Was (.M.J's Streak's Over.) Cause He Spoiled
      All The Fans.....They Expect This Class Of Games From His AIRNESS 90% Of The Time..and He Deliever. that's why is the greatest of all times THE G🏀AT and MAYORITY OWNER
      OF AN NBA FRANCHISE, AND HIS OWN JORDAN'S BRAND. TOTAL 2.3 BILLIONS. MAGIC, BIRD, RESURRECTED THE NBA, M.J. REVOLUTIONATED 'n' TRANSFORM
      THE NBA FOR THE BEST AND THANKS TO THOSE 3 LEGENDS
      SPECIALLY MICHAEL JEFFREY
      THE NBA AND BÁSQUETBALL IS
      KNOW AROUND THE PLANET🌎
      THANKS,

    • @ivanzagorac5690
      @ivanzagorac5690 2 года назад

      So were pippen and Rodman with like 19 all nba defense awards combined. How many did wade, bosh, kyrie and love have combined remind me? You might as well just check wade cause rest have 0

    • @FreedomFighter2112
      @FreedomFighter2112 2 года назад +4

      Total Achievements: (Titles, MVPs, Finals MVPs, 1st All-NBA, 1st All-DEF)
      1) Jordan = 36
      2) LeBron = 30
      3) Kareem = 29
      4) Kobe = 28
      4) Duncan = 28
      6) Magic = 20
      7) Russell = 19
      8) Bird = 17
      9) Wilt = 16**
      10) Shaq/Hakeem = 16
      **Would be a lot higher but All-Defensive Team selections didn't start until 1969
      BTW, Players like Durant = 12, Giannis = 10, Curry = 9 and a couple of others still have a chance on making it into that Top Achievement list before their career is over.

    • @travisjazzbo3490
      @travisjazzbo3490 2 года назад +5

      @@bennymoret1339 Amazing stats... Jordan was in a league all by himself and it was 2 leagues ahead of everyone else

    • @buddybeavers2691
      @buddybeavers2691 2 года назад +3

      Kobe too

  • @GracelessTarnished
    @GracelessTarnished 6 месяцев назад +31

    One thing i know for certainty is if Jordan or Kobe had the opportunity to play the others in their prime, they would embrace it. LeBum would sweat bullets.

    • @raionheart1563
      @raionheart1563 5 месяцев назад +5

      Kobe 6-16 against Lebron 🥴

    • @mrs.lovely8527
      @mrs.lovely8527 4 месяца назад +1

      😂You don't know that for certain😂 Stop making your opinion facts😂

    • @willisstillhere8846
      @willisstillhere8846 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@raionheart1563you think Kobe fans listen to logic? Lmao
      They talk about rings but then cry when Kobe is compared to Bill Russell about how rings don't make someone the GOAT

    • @annamartinez7028
      @annamartinez7028 4 месяца назад

      Bro Kobe avg 8 points a game he's trash and he literally had a top 10 teammate of all time to carry him to 3 rings don't forget that the 2002 wcsf and 2000 wcf finals were rigged

    • @OfficialEricElemen
      @OfficialEricElemen 5 дней назад

      Yall are tripping
      Lebron is barely top 10.

  • @joshjohnson6751
    @joshjohnson6751 2 года назад +192

    As a Knicks fan that grew up in the 90s, I’ve seen each player in their prime and MJ is most certainly a cut above. And this is coming from someone that wishes I could say someone was better. MJ crushed my dreams every year in the playoffs

    • @pablinkz
      @pablinkz 2 года назад

      Everytime, Smh. We threw the kitchen sink at this dude and he killed us and everybody else, and made it look good while doing it. GOAT and its not even close.

    • @luisofthelion
      @luisofthelion 2 года назад +5

      @@mob2544 I agree. This is a very mature take. But I’m not eager to say anyone is better than Jordan.

    • @luisofthelion
      @luisofthelion 2 года назад +1

      @@mob2544 I agree. This is a very mature take. But I’m not eager to say anyone is better than Jordan.

    • @wxixl
      @wxixl 2 года назад +1

      Knicks fan here, I know your pain well

    • @derekhyder6498
      @derekhyder6498 2 года назад +1

      Grew up in Chicago and yeah…we hated you knicks!

  • @Rubrick23.
    @Rubrick23. 3 года назад +275

    When lbj says he's the greatest player of all time dude on his left says no.

    • @josiahbruley5838
      @josiahbruley5838 3 года назад +13

      Yeah he no the 🧢 is real

    • @gratefulfredly8643
      @gratefulfredly8643 3 года назад +7

      Can not carry Mr Russel's shoes. Only half the character. They know nothing of racism which they bitch about 24/7. Russel never kissed no Chinese ass.

    • @kilobishop8364
      @kilobishop8364 3 года назад +4

      More like hell no 🤣

    • @salvadoramaya8642
      @salvadoramaya8642 3 года назад +9

      Yeah, anytime you call yourself that, you automatically take yourself out of the discussion. When everybody else says it, then you know you are that guy.

    • @adamm2787
      @adamm2787 3 года назад +20

      Lol. He was 3-4 in the finals when he said that bullshit...he is 4-6 now...Kobe went 5-2 and MJ went 6-0...
      Kobe and MJ both did it without chasing any of those rings to other cities.

  • @andrefrank5009
    @andrefrank5009 2 года назад +223

    Kobe even said out of his own mouth, "There's No five championships for me without Mike.....Period"
    #1 MJ
    #2 Kobe
    #3 LeBron

    • @keithjoseph128
      @keithjoseph128 2 года назад +1

      So he lost those times as the favorite on purpose?

    • @vdeeej
      @vdeeej 2 года назад +5

      bron is two, he dominates kobe in almost every stat

    • @azneau28
      @azneau28 2 года назад +10

      Bron is like Super Vegeta, where kobe and jordan are SS2 Goku and Gohan. We all know whose better.

    • @keithjoseph128
      @keithjoseph128 2 года назад +10

      @@azneau28 obviously not.

    • @aironukinnam4362
      @aironukinnam4362 2 года назад +4

      Kobe is top 10 and lebron is top 2

  • @zipo1039
    @zipo1039 8 месяцев назад +5

    Mj doesnt do floppin its the killer mentality that makes him the GOAT! Its not only the stats its his character towards the game far from Lebron who claim himself as the greatest pfft.. MJ is just a clutch player cannot be bothered by anyone when he is playing! 6-0 is just a master piece.

    • @jimmulcahey9312
      @jimmulcahey9312 2 месяца назад

      @@zipo1039 what happened against Bird in the playoffs? MJ swept twice and is 0-6 against Bird. I realize that it is a team sport but if you are going to give all the credit for his 6-0 finals then he should get the blame for the 0-6 against Bird.

  • @Filthyrich1999
    @Filthyrich1999 Год назад +126

    When you are good at something, you'll tell everyone. When you are great, they'll tell you - Walter Payton

    • @og6951
      @og6951 10 месяцев назад +6

      Great quote…Also, MJ didn’t do the maintenance thing where you get days off, also Lebron’s early non killer instinct mind set… flops, used to defer to take the big shot. He can never change his history.

    • @beetlejuice4357
      @beetlejuice4357 7 месяцев назад

      MJ Kobe then LeBron. MJ and Kobe are the same but Mike has bigger hands so he gets the edge.

    • @mikemcdee4003
      @mikemcdee4003 6 месяцев назад

      @@og6951 False narrative, Lebron was more of a killer in his first stint with the Cavs. Making the right basketball play is not lacking a Killer instinct, Lebron also has the most game-winners in playoff history, not bad for a player who doesn't have a killer instinct. Kobe had a killer instinct and is one of the most inefficient superstars, of all time!

  • @dayra6425
    @dayra6425 2 года назад +232

    I watched all their careers and I can say it’s jordan .. with out a doubt .. he was just different.. drive and athleticism were off the charts

    • @matthewgabbana1478
      @matthewgabbana1478 2 года назад +3

      Ok after Jordan who else do you have? Kobe or bron?

    • @VeryVeryConfused
      @VeryVeryConfused 2 года назад +5

      i mean kobes right there with drive, i mean his work ethic was honestly unmatched

    • @cclark2021
      @cclark2021 2 года назад +9

      Agreed I'm a Sonic's fan and grew up hating MJ. Still he's the GOAT. It is what it is.

    • @cclark2021
      @cclark2021 2 года назад +1

      @@matthewgabbana1478 kobe

    • @keithjoseph128
      @keithjoseph128 2 года назад +3

      ​@@VeryVeryConfused unfortunately his work ethic was all individual and didn't help him understand how to utilize his teammates.

  • @audette1978
    @audette1978 3 года назад +365

    MJ is the greatest player! The Skill, killer instinct, fundamentals, accolades, and the WILL to win at all cost. !

    • @andy1982222
      @andy1982222 3 года назад +18

      Kobe a close second for me

    • @yaqubosman8964
      @yaqubosman8964 3 года назад +12

      @@andy1982222 facts M.J #1 Kobe #2

    • @suryasusanto89
      @suryasusanto89 3 года назад +7

      No argument there. Even jordan said the only one who can beat him was kobe, the one who copied his moves.

    • @DAS63
      @DAS63 3 года назад +4

      Lol you guys are idiots if you think Kobe is 2nd. You can make a pretty good argument that he is not even top 10 all-time. I’d put him 7th at best.

    • @APB225
      @APB225 3 года назад +8

      It was an absolute refusal to lose from Jordan and players now have nowhere near then determination and Competitive/Killer Instinct he had and that’s just one thing that sets him apart

  • @Overdose140
    @Overdose140 4 месяца назад +1

    This is a fantastic debate! Here’s my take on the GOAT using a unique analogy:
    Steel Analogy:
    • Michael Jordan is like high-carbon steel: the gold standard for strength and durability. His six championships and relentless competitive edge make him the benchmark for greatness.
    • Kobe Bryant is like stainless steel: resilient and versatile. His five championships and “Mamba Mentality” reflect his enduring impact and ability to shine in various roles.
    • LeBron James is like alloy steel: enhanced through diverse elements. His versatility and success across different teams highlight his all-around excellence.
    Diamond Analogy:
    • Michael Jordan is a flawless diamond: the pinnacle of purity and brilliance. His illustrious career and iconic performances set the ultimate standard in basketball.
    • Kobe Bryant is a VVS1 diamond: nearly perfect, reflecting his exceptional skill and dedication. His remarkable achievements and resilience shine through like the high quality of this diamond.
    • LeBron James is a VS1 diamond: exceptional quality with minor inclusions, symbolizing his versatility and comprehensive skill set. His ability to excel in various roles showcases his resilience and adaptability.
    Why Michael Jordan is the GOAT:
    When we talk about the GOAT, we’re referring to the player by whom all others are judged. Just like high-carbon steel sets the highest benchmark for strength and a flawless diamond represents ultimate brilliance, Michael Jordan is the standard of greatness in basketball. His six championships, five MVP awards, and unmatched competitive spirit make him the definitive GOAT.

  • @georgeespinoza3510
    @georgeespinoza3510 2 года назад +136

    In my lifetime, Michael Jordan is the GOAT, hands down. Nobody was feared like MJ.

    • @AC-gw4qu
      @AC-gw4qu 2 года назад +1

      "In my lifetime, Michael Jordan is the GOAT" makes no sense.
      Do you know what AT stands for in GOAT? ALL TIME, not part time, not lifetime, but ALL TIME.

    • @2Abstract43
      @2Abstract43 2 года назад +2

      You mean GOTE....
      Greatest
      Of
      That
      Era

    • @hungryforlunch
      @hungryforlunch 2 года назад

      @@2Abstract43 thank you !

    • @michaelwheeler3782
      @michaelwheeler3782 2 года назад

      You obviously are very young

  • @manuelarroyo6477
    @manuelarroyo6477 2 года назад +73

    Jordan by far. He was a assasin on both sides of the court. Extremely letal in big games. Not only imposed himself by sheer ability, plus by his mentality. That's the origin of Mamba Mentality.

    • @bamajeff7988
      @bamajeff7988 2 года назад +6

      Jordan 1 and Kobe 2.

    • @TheGr8-1
      @TheGr8-1 2 года назад +1

      @@bamajeff7988 Jordan is goat. Kobe second best SG. Not 2 greatest of all time.

    • @bamajeff7988
      @bamajeff7988 2 года назад +2

      @@TheGr8-1 Who better than Kobe?

    • @TheGr8-1
      @TheGr8-1 2 года назад

      @@bamajeff7988 Jordan, Kareem, Russell, Magic, Bird, Bron, Shaq, Duncan, Hakeem, Wilt.

    • @bamajeff7988
      @bamajeff7988 2 года назад

      @@TheGr8-1 How can have Magic when he played with 5 HOFers. Yeah, you just a hater. Hard to say 1person is great while having somebody he played with 2 spots behind him like Kareem and Magic who played n in the same dam team. You not just a hater, you don’t know shit about basketball 😂

  • @MasteringMayhem
    @MasteringMayhem 3 года назад +168

    When MJ was on the court we all believed anything could happen, we all expected something amazing and never before seen things to happen….and it did! We don’t expect that from LJ, because he hasn’t proved it consistently like MJ. With LJ we get to see some amazing things here and there…but not consistently. MJ is the GOAT

    • @andrewitt7615
      @andrewitt7615 3 года назад +3

      Disagree

    • @xaviersanchez299
      @xaviersanchez299 3 года назад +4

      Were you lucky enough to watch MJ’s career?

    • @MasteringMayhem
      @MasteringMayhem 3 года назад +9

      @@xaviersanchez299 yes I was. Well, at least from about 1988 to his last game with Wizards

    • @jasonmoukala8909
      @jasonmoukala8909 3 года назад

      Not consistently

    • @MJ-py7wk
      @MJ-py7wk 3 года назад +2

      He was in Convo for MVP last year at 36, Bron was lol. MJ was horrible at 36 in Washington. C'mon man. MJ can be the goat without lying on Bron. He's Mr consistent! That's why he's talked about as at least #2-5 greatest ever from just about everybody. You made that up🤣🤣

  • @JayLandon64
    @JayLandon64 6 месяцев назад +1

    MJ, Bird, B. Russell, Kobe, Kareem, Magic, Lebron, Shaq, Wilt, Duncan; honorable mentions to Karl Malone, Moses Malone, Oscar Robertson, Charles Barkley

  • @cnelsonlv99
    @cnelsonlv99 Год назад +64

    I've watched all 3 of their careers from the start. Jordan as a freshmen in college, Kobe and Lebron in high school. (1) Jordan, (2) Kobe, (3) Lebron. As a footnote, when Lebron was a rookie, I predicted he would become the GOAT..... but he never passed those two, and I don't base ANY of it on the number of rings. I'm talking pure basketball skill!

    • @jordan-xe2yb
      @jordan-xe2yb 9 месяцев назад +1

      Well, on skill, you need to add others before James. Bird, for one. And I agree with you-playing more seasons (accumulating more stats) shouldn’t change the order. We’ve seen enough.

    • @cnelsonlv99
      @cnelsonlv99 9 месяцев назад

      @@jordan-xe2yb This video is about Jordan, Kobe and Lebron... why would I add Bird or anyone else to the list? I'm responding to the video...

    • @jimmulcahey9312
      @jimmulcahey9312 2 месяца назад

      @@cnelsonlv99 since the video is only about those three and you mentioned skill - if going off basketball skills alone the order would have to be Kobe, then Jordan and Lebron not even close to those two.

    • @cnelsonlv99
      @cnelsonlv99 2 месяца назад

      @@jimmulcahey9312 Lebron is not close, that's correct. Jordan is ahead of Kobe because of Jordan's dominance going to his left, which was a weakness for Kobe.

  • @lhaire
    @lhaire 3 года назад +335

    Allen Iverson echoed my sentiments exactly, "What, they forgot about him?" Every time I hear this MJ vs. LBJ conversation it makes my taint convulse when they just forget about The Black Mamba. So disrespectful. Glad the players know. They played against them and saw them up close and personal - not the media or these fan boys.

    • @SilentMovements305
      @SilentMovements305 3 года назад +14

      The Legend was always bashed by the media

    • @reno11558
      @reno11558 3 года назад +10

      No respect for Larry legend here.

    • @SilentMovements305
      @SilentMovements305 3 года назад +12

      @@reno11558 he ain't in same conversation as MJ n Kobe

    • @reno11558
      @reno11558 3 года назад +18

      @@SilentMovements305 he’s certainly in the top 5, Larry demanded the last shot, James never seemed to want it. Riley said I’d pick MJ to take the last shot to win a game, I’d take Larry’s last shot to save my life.

    • @SilentMovements305
      @SilentMovements305 3 года назад +14

      @@reno11558 top 10 yea top 5 questionable last minute shots yea I go wit MJ Kobe n bird. Lebron isn't trust worthy the thing wit lebron is he was a "freak" athlete but if you notice his game has never changed since coming into the league all dunks n pick n rolls thats y his field goal percentage is up there. Not a bird fan but the man elevated his game switched it up couple times n played against the ShowTime Lakers even he lost he did a number on Magic

  • @ToddMelanson
    @ToddMelanson Год назад +90

    Jordan, the MOST competitive athlete EVER, always deferred to players that came before him. He never called himself the best player ever, even though we all know he was. Pure class.

    • @cowvintube
      @cowvintube 11 месяцев назад +7

      Yep, there was a huge contrast between that quote of LeBron declaring himself GOAT and Jordan talking about how he doesn't want the title cuz he can't compare himself to those who came before him. Nobody can declare themselves GOAT. I would rank them Jordan, Kobe, LeBron.

    • @tungi_halmegi
      @tungi_halmegi 11 месяцев назад +1

      He called himself black Jesus. Wtf you on about

    • @bmbunch8825
      @bmbunch8825 11 месяцев назад +1

      The difference between confidence and cocky.

    • @RG-ct6qz
      @RG-ct6qz 10 месяцев назад

      Wilt and Russell are better. He’s in the league of Bird and Magic.

    • @thecall0ut
      @thecall0ut 10 месяцев назад

      @@tungi_halmegi You don't know anything. Reggie trash talked MJ saying people think he can walk on water but could only score 12pts against him in the 1st half, but by the end of the game MJ owned him and fired back saying "Don't trash talk black Jesus". He was simply riding along the trash talk you dummy. When that story was told, his peers went along with it as praise. LeFlop Shames calls himself King, but nobody calls him that except the Media and his fanboys.

  • @gregsey8239
    @gregsey8239 6 месяцев назад +2

    Players back then didn’t care if they got tired. They didn’t take games off

  • @lexibrowning7447
    @lexibrowning7447 3 года назад +311

    I forgot who said this. “When you beat Lebron, it was good strategy. When you beat Michael, that was just luck.” That to me proves MJ is undisputed goat.

    • @luka5465
      @luka5465 2 года назад +18

      That actually proves.. you know NOTHING about basketball.

    • @lexibrowning7447
      @lexibrowning7447 2 года назад +5

      @@luka5465 Care to explain how?

    • @luka5465
      @luka5465 2 года назад +14

      @@lexibrowning7447 because somebody just made that up and you believing it makes it worse

    • @chevyskinner7492
      @chevyskinner7492 2 года назад +5

      @@luka5465 care to elaborate?

    • @luka5465
      @luka5465 2 года назад +5

      @@chevyskinner7492 what do you mean.. care to elaborate lmao are you reading what I’m reading?? Just cause someone says something doesn’t PROVE anything.. it’s pathetic with you Jordan fanboys

  • @odissmith9965
    @odissmith9965 3 года назад +176

    The thing I love about Jordan, is that he never said it himself. Because of the respect he has for all of the greats that came before him. Because you can't go back in time to play against someone in their prime. All those guys who were there before you are the ones who inspired you! Only the world can call you the goat, not yourself.

  • @f1fanatic710
    @f1fanatic710 3 года назад +231

    Webber said it all for me. For me what separates Mj and Kobe from others is the there absolute killer instinct.

    • @brentw0681
      @brentw0681 3 года назад +4

      lebron is a better all around player easily

    • @jeremiahpolk8908
      @jeremiahpolk8908 3 года назад +13

      @@brentw0681 Wake up

    • @garyco766
      @garyco766 3 года назад +12

      @@brentw0681 Could only be said by someone who never saw MJ play... pure ignorance.

    • @TheBaptist07
      @TheBaptist07 3 года назад +9

      @@brentw0681 dude stop😂 Jordan couldn’t be stopped… i can name multiple teams and players who have stopped Lebron… golden state is lebrons worst nightmare

    • @finallife87
      @finallife87 3 года назад +2

      @@TheBaptist07 the pistons stopped jordan's 3 times.

  • @John-lv6uj
    @John-lv6uj 2 месяца назад +1

    Raleigh Simmons coached by Fred Tex Winter. 1. Welt Chamberlain, 2. Larry Bird 3. Michel Jordan 4. Scottie Pippin 5. and the greatest shooter of all time Stephen Curry.

  • @lindabrown2090
    @lindabrown2090 2 года назад +72

    MJ was and still is the Best. He’s the G.O.A.T.🐐

    • @waidpaid-ty5sv
      @waidpaid-ty5sv Год назад

      Idk Jordan the reel looks sloppy he pushes one guy for series ending shot prob F1 and Jukes 3 people with simple post left right left. The game has evolved

    • @detectivemarkseven
      @detectivemarkseven Год назад

      @@waidpaid-ty5sv This guy either didnt watch the video or is trolling lol

  • @vincepham2997
    @vincepham2997 3 года назад +340

    I just love listening to Michaels humble comments about feeling embarrassed and cringing when people declare him as the greatest of all time. He said nobody knows because he never got the chance to play against Chamberlain or Russell. His response was amazing❤

    • @OldManLuffy
      @OldManLuffy 3 года назад +20

      He sure doesn't feel embarrassed calling himself the goat lol because he has before he also told a player to not disrespect black Jesus

    • @Brandon-ik6ty
      @Brandon-ik6ty 3 года назад +8

      One interview doesn't reflect the entirety of his character or establish a standard.

    • @ssor2816
      @ssor2816 3 года назад +25

      @@OldManLuffy I never heard MJ say that he is the GOAT unlike Lebron. The black jesus thing was just trash talk cause he acknowledges his own skills.

    • @BeastingSolo
      @BeastingSolo 3 года назад +6

      @@OldManLuffy lol jordan was trash talker and bird called him that a guy jordan looked up too. You dont call yourself a name its giving to you.

    • @BeastingSolo
      @BeastingSolo 3 года назад +2

      @@ssor2816 bird called him that like I said name is giving

  • @shawnkincheloesr5192
    @shawnkincheloesr5192 3 года назад +338

    I am a Laker fan to my very core, but Michael Air Jordan is the best player that I ever seen to play the game ( especially @ his size ) and the over all talent and adversity that he had to go through and endure, placed him in a class all by himself.

    • @maximillanguapo1229
      @maximillanguapo1229 3 года назад +6

      Same in every way.

    • @anthonyduvalier2746
      @anthonyduvalier2746 3 года назад +6

      100 percent correct

    • @oldsch001tothebone5
      @oldsch001tothebone5 3 года назад +3

      💯

    • @david9156
      @david9156 3 года назад +18

      I was a Magic Johnson fan & Lakers fan. So I hated on Jordan while he was playing. With that said I couldn’t agree more. He’s def the best I’ve ever seen. He’s a stone cold killer. Didn’t sit out games Bc it was the 2nd of a back to back. 6 finals, 6 rings, never even let it get to a game 7.

    • @spikenomoon
      @spikenomoon 3 года назад +17

      MJ turned a losing team into the most dominating team in the NBA. Turned millions of people into fans of basketball. Lebron picked a winning team was not able to make the difference himself. Takes games off. Mike brought it every game no matter what, never did he consider a game not important. Most influential player ever.

  • @paulb4687
    @paulb4687 9 месяцев назад +3

    Lebum is a ring chaser.

  • @ReadIcculus93
    @ReadIcculus93 Год назад +132

    In the Early days of the NBA, there wasn't much question who the best basketball player was. It was Wilt, and nobody questioned it. Then guys like Kareem, Dr J, Bird, Magic came along and people started to make arguments about one being better than the other, but no definitive answer to who was the greatest. They were all great in their own right. Stars of the league, and legends of the game.
    When Jordan came along, it was like something out of a writer's room. Within his first month as a Bull, people began to take notice of this kid who was absolutely dominating everyone. Nobody could stop him. The minute that man laced up his shoes for the first time and hit that court, he was already talked about with the likes of the greats. People questioned, just how good could this kid get? Years went by and Jordan never waivered from that mark as the best basetball player of his time. Pushed past Magic and Bird, and stood at the top of the mt. rushmore of 1980's and 1990's NBA.
    There was a time before Jordan where it was debated who was the best ever, when Jordan arrived, there was no longer a debate. He broke the game. now, over 20 years after he retired from the game of basketball, people still compare the stars of the league and legends of the game to his name. He will forever be the greatest basketball player to ever walk the Earth. Players will come and they will pass, but whoever joins the game today knows there is only 1 name they will compare yours too, no matter how great you are. And you know what that name is.

    • @JoeKoOhNo
      @JoeKoOhNo Год назад +1

      Hogwash.

    • @Kushenable
      @Kushenable Год назад +3

      there is... its mj... by far...

    • @jordanhealy628
      @jordanhealy628 Год назад +4

      Bill Russel deserves a mention. By far the most successful NBA player ever. I recommend the video “Making the case-Bill Russel” for more

    • @sheriffdraws8789
      @sheriffdraws8789 Год назад +3

      Let me add to this... he's not only the greatest basketball player of all time, but the greatest athlete of all time. There was nothing like MJ back in the 90s

    • @JoeKoOhNo
      @JoeKoOhNo Год назад

      @@sheriffdraws8789 Bwahaha ha ha ha. Greatest athlete of all time. He lost thousands of dollars to a golf hustler and spent two years in the minors because he couldn't hit a curve ball. He was also unreliable shooting from outside. He could drive and dunk. That's it.

  • @realest21310
    @realest21310 2 года назад +318

    If you watch a HIGHLIGHTS REEL of all 3 of these guys, u can clearly see KOBE and JORDAN are far more superior than LEBRON when it comes down to PURE Basketball SKILL 🏀💯

    • @jakubkrivanek3112
      @jakubkrivanek3112 2 года назад +46

      It's because LBJ is built like a PF and plays SF in the era of perimeter players. MJ and Kobe were both guards playing in the era of dominant big men. MJ and Kobe needed to pull out real magic. LBJ simply drives to the basket and many times people rather dodge than commit a cheap foul.

    • @willybeamon
      @willybeamon 2 года назад +7

      Facts

    • @pakyo2x
      @pakyo2x 2 года назад

      @@jakubkrivanek3112 its because your a kid. You dont know basketball.

    • @bamajeff7988
      @bamajeff7988 2 года назад +6

      @@jakubkrivanek3112 Facts

    • @derekhyder6498
      @derekhyder6498 2 года назад

      💯

  • @Fister_of_Muppets
    @Fister_of_Muppets 2 года назад +137

    If Jordan played in today's game, he'd have averaged 45+ ppg. Kobe was a great, LeBron is great, Bill Russel had an outstanding run... but MJ was on another level when it came to talent and competitiveness.

    • @ohiomadejay
      @ohiomadejay 2 года назад +3

      nowadays u can score 45 and lose

    • @louisfambro1319
      @louisfambro1319 2 года назад

      ​@@ohiomadejay 🎯🎯🎯

    • @ceottolino
      @ceottolino 2 года назад +7

      Kobe was as good as MJ , more skilled, he just faced greater and more athletic players than Jordan had to face. The fact that with a Shaq and Kobe led team they lost to the Pistons shows you how good the Pistons were Defensively.

    • @robert9291
      @robert9291 2 года назад

      @@ohiomadejay back in the day, Mr. Jordan scored 60+ and the Bulls still lost.

    • @blkarmani
      @blkarmani 2 года назад +1

      To me I want to say Lebron cause out of those 3 he is the only one to make regular players play at a higher level. The one thing he dosn't have over the other 2 is what you just mentioned which is competitiveness. Sometimes Lebron looks scared of the bright light

  • @SmoothJK
    @SmoothJK 4 месяца назад +1

    I love how LBJ said that in front of a friendly crowd and no one jumped in to agree with him. They let him explain himself while they scratched their heads.

  • @stevel_knievel
    @stevel_knievel 3 года назад +633

    I can settle the debate. Several years before MJ retired the media started asking who’s the next MJ. They gave the title of next MJ to multiple players including Kobe and Lebron. Nobody is asking who the next Kobe or Lebron is. And after Lebron retires the debate will start again, who is the next MJ?

    • @stevem2323
      @stevem2323 3 года назад +29

      Exactly.

    • @isaaspirit9895
      @isaaspirit9895 2 года назад +50

      I will tell you why this debate is very complex .
      Kobe and LeBron might just have reach the " Jordan level " . Greatness , clutchness in the most important times , and titles .
      Kobe proved it by winning 2 more title after shaq left . He did it against a Celtics team with , Kevin Garnett , Paul Pierce , ray Allen and rondo . 1 vs 4 and with a broken finger. This accomplishment is unmatched .
      LeBron is the most complete player of all time . His best ability is his assist game . But he can dunk , and shoot 3 point . He can do it all . LeBron early miami was the best player of all time . He could jump higher than. Jordan , dunk stronger , was leading in assist and defense . He also won 3 title in 3 different teams . Each time final mvp .
      So now we have 3 level of greatness .
      And we are witnessing the 4 the level of greatness stephen curry the best shooter of all time .
      Kobe had the mind , because he didn't have the body like MJ .
      MJ had the body , the mind and the skills.
      LeBron had , the individual skills , the teamates skills , the body , the longevity .
      And curry is making everyone want to shoot more 3s

    • @dasun13
      @dasun13 2 года назад +3

      I am.. the LG is gonna be dead in 3 years when lbj is gone

    • @stevem2323
      @stevem2323 2 года назад +16

      @@isaaspirit9895 Nicely put wirh the arguments and the analysis.
      But it's not complex, you pretty much summed it up, MJ is the greatest easily.

    • @davidfity2802
      @davidfity2802 2 года назад +6

      Perfectly said I don’t think I’ve ever heard this argument ended like that and I couldn’t agree more!!!!!

  • @olearyeugene
    @olearyeugene 2 года назад +365

    I'm just gonna say if MJ came straight out of high school playing the way he did as a rookie, never retired, and injured he would have the scoring record that probably no one can catch. Remember he only played 13 HEALTHY years and and got scoring titles for 10 of them averaging 30+ pts

    • @meowskiss4475
      @meowskiss4475 2 года назад +52

      If he played in this era he'd average 50

    • @Knight23able
      @Knight23able 2 года назад +8

      That’s a huge what if though, he didn’t do you gotta judge based on what we know.

    • @olearyeugene
      @olearyeugene 2 года назад +16

      @@Knight23able ik. I'm going by how I saw him play. He averaged over 30pts a season, I dont think that have stopped tho

    • @kingpete3160
      @kingpete3160 2 года назад +14

      I agree to 30 points times 82 games times 17 seasons and see what you comes up with watch mj numbers lol 😂 40 plus thousands points maybe close to 48 thousands points

    • @MrVelasquez
      @MrVelasquez 2 года назад +37

      You forget he played 82 full games every year for most of his career in a more physical nba league. The one that calls himself the goat barely played full seasons

  • @kreativeinksolutions7987
    @kreativeinksolutions7987 2 года назад +126

    The Kobe disrespect always pissed me off. I've always had him over Lebron...who's lost more finals than he's won. Kobe 6-2. MJ 6-0

    • @julioreynosa6924
      @julioreynosa6924 2 года назад +29

      Kobe 5-2 , MJ 6-0 , LB 4-6

    • @user-sy9ur6of8t
      @user-sy9ur6of8t 2 года назад +13

      @@julioreynosa6924 jordan 1-9 playoffs before his savior pippen showed up

    • @tonyt6172
      @tonyt6172 2 года назад +21

      @J so in your narrative pippen is the goat? 🤣🤣🤣 C'mon man..

    • @jtucker473
      @jtucker473 2 года назад +9

      The whole lost more finals is a tired argument, especially when talking about Kobe. How many Finals MVP does Kobe have in comparison? How many NBA MVPs? I'm not saying Kobe should not be brought up, I'm saying bring a stronger argument.

    • @user-sy9ur6of8t
      @user-sy9ur6of8t 2 года назад +2

      @@tonyt6172 no, if that was the narrative bill russell would be the goat. jordan didnt start winning until pippen came around + he had incredible defensive players, he was getting swept 1st round before all that. he had a pefect storm which allowed him to shine. LBJ is the greatest player of all time

  • @entertainmenttelevision9257
    @entertainmenttelevision9257 20 дней назад +1

    Its crazy cause during the 90{sit was who is better Michael Jordan, Dr. Jay, Jerry West or Elgin Baylor.

  • @v-22
    @v-22 Год назад +129

    Here's something no one talks about, how artistic Jordan was with the ball. His plasticity, the way he moved and flew with the ball has been copied but never matched. The excitement wasn't just on the descriptive dunks and shots made, they were, partly if not mostly on how he dunked and made those shots. It's a numbers game but there is an art to it and Jordan was in a league of his own.

    • @mattcorcoran7082
      @mattcorcoran7082 Год назад +8

      MJ was the first player I saw that was completely smooth & coordinated the whole time. It’s common in the league now, but Michael broke the mould.

    • @gregls7121
      @gregls7121 Год назад +4

      You obviously didn't see Julius Erving play😮😢

    • @krishnastock
      @krishnastock Год назад +5

      MJ's idol, Dr. J, was up there with him (if not better) in artistic play!

    • @gstacks814
      @gstacks814 11 месяцев назад +4

      his game was poetry in motion

    • @jaynice7214
      @jaynice7214 10 месяцев назад

      Yes Jordan was very creative

  • @MrSailorboykelly
    @MrSailorboykelly 3 года назад +119

    In short, Jordan took everything personal and that's why went God mode😂

    • @xaviersanchez299
      @xaviersanchez299 3 года назад +7

      Kobe and MJ fierce competitive mentality set them apart from a lot of players.

    • @josemvasquez3404
      @josemvasquez3404 3 года назад +1

      @@xaviersanchez299 kobe is the carbon copy of mj

    • @tyler10209
      @tyler10209 3 года назад

      4real.. to sensitive 😆

    • @jay-oz3yh
      @jay-oz3yh 3 года назад +1

      @@josemvasquez3404 I think MJ is more athletic than Kobe though.

    • @louiedajet
      @louiedajet 3 года назад

      Kobe had Shaq from the get go. The Lakers attained Kobe by convincing him to reject playing for anyone other than the Lakers. Without Shaq, Kobe wins 3 Championships in his career

  • @lucyaklar6345
    @lucyaklar6345 3 года назад +100

    "I don't get 5 championships here without him" - Kobe's comment about Michael Jordan 🐐 in the Last Dance Documentary

    • @nathanielrupa3624
      @nathanielrupa3624 3 года назад +1

      That's why their gameplay were almost identical but kobe had his own style.

    • @hashmoncrief6965
      @hashmoncrief6965 3 года назад +2

      Kobe Bryant showed he could do it without Shaq, Michael Jordan left to play basketball and when he came back he went back to Pippin instead of going somewhere else to show he could do it without Pippin, Kobe said that in the last dance to be a nice guy, but Kobe still did it, and Michael Jordan fans take that to heart just because Kobe said that, go watch the video where Michael Jordan told Kobe you can wear the shoes but your not going to be the man and the next game they played Kobe just walked all over Jordan, Kobe was better than Jordan and he proved it, just because Kobe didn't have great teammates to win more championships, but Jordan always had Pippin, face the facts

    • @alvaroalanizjr.1379
      @alvaroalanizjr.1379 3 года назад +3

      Jordan's right no one can say who's the greatest of all time because the greats never played against each other in there prime

    • @philipstrotherjr8842
      @philipstrotherjr8842 3 года назад +2

      @@hashmoncrief6965 When did Kobe prove that? Walked all over Jordan when?! I hope you're not referring to prime Kobe vs 40 yr old Wizard Mj.

    • @adamwiley1170
      @adamwiley1170 3 года назад +1

      @@philipstrotherjr8842 nah latter years of Chicago. Kobe did own him than. Still end of career though

  • @Apple_Teck
    @Apple_Teck Месяц назад +1

    FACT: TD gets lost in this small man (non-center)GOAT conversation.

  • @randal3122
    @randal3122 2 года назад +39

    i would agree. kobe was insanely skilled. i still think jordan was thr best ever overall, but kobe was really incredible to watch too. i have always thought kobe is underrated on the best player list. i would personally put kobe ahead of lebron without a doubt. the dude just didnt miss

  • @Andrew-ly6yf
    @Andrew-ly6yf 3 года назад +156

    Kobe was in the toughest conference probably in NBA history. 2000-2010 western conference had the most complete teams, and hof players. First half of that decade Kobe and Shaq owned it, second half Kobe won 2 chips out of the 3 times he went to the finals. 7 of those 10 years he went to the finals and lost only 2 times to teams that had 4 all stars on each roster

    • @sethdanielfernandez1239
      @sethdanielfernandez1239 3 года назад +5

      Well said! This is definitely not on any existing stats before and even now. STATS are always one sided. Or probably i am wrong.
      Are there any stats that can calculate how many great players on each CONFERENCES?

    • @jefferygrandberry3405
      @jefferygrandberry3405 3 года назад +9

      Even his road to the finals was fucking crazy. Warring with the Spurs, Suns, Mavs.
      Some seasons, you didnt make the playoffs out west without 50+ games.

    • @jefferygrandberry3405
      @jefferygrandberry3405 3 года назад +13

      To put it this way, LeBron had to beat Ben Wallace led teams and Paul George led teams. He lost outright to Dwight Howard. The only true challenge to nearly any team in the West was the Celtics, and they were old, and the Pistons, before LeBron could shoulder the load against a truly balanced squad.
      Kobe was beating Duncan/Parker/Ginobli, Nowitzki, Nash/Amare/Marion, Carmelo, to even get to the Finals, where he was facing three hall of famers or whoever LeBron had lost to.

    • @Hinshu85
      @Hinshu85 3 года назад +14

      Nah. 80's East were harder. 80's East had Boston with Bird/Maravich, 76ers with Dr.J, Pistons with Thomas/Laimbeer/Rodman/Dumars, Bulls with Mj/Scottie, Knicks with Ewing/cummings/Sparrow, Atlanta with Wilkins/Rivers/Wittman and so on.

    • @vintage3262
      @vintage3262 3 года назад +7

      @@Hinshu85 Yeah that 80s east was rough and rugged

  • @CharlesLinn-rm9dl
    @CharlesLinn-rm9dl Год назад +27

    That point about Kobe"s skill was a good point. My all time starting five: Magic, Michael, Larry, Bill and Wilt.

    • @JohnathanWicker
      @JohnathanWicker Год назад +3

      That’s a great lineup!

    • @frequentiis
      @frequentiis 11 месяцев назад +4

      mine is magic, mj, larry, olajuwon, kareem

    • @w4tt58
      @w4tt58 9 месяцев назад

      Imagine wilt and jokic as your bigs bro... You won't agree but I think having magic and jokic as the spacer with wilt and Jordan being the focal would be broken.

    • @joeyjurado84
      @joeyjurado84 9 месяцев назад

      Shaq Rodman miller mj Stockton

  • @Arrogan28
    @Arrogan28 7 месяцев назад +1

    I think it's pretty clear....
    MJ: Hands down best clutch player....
    Kobe: Was magic with the ball...
    then a whole bunch of other players...
    Lebron: Is best at stat padding, flopping, self promotion, leaving team mates to defend by themselves as he stands around, and is the worst in the clutch, Lebron is the last guy you'd hand the ball to win game 7 final shot... but he will take it, miss, and then blame his team of 'minimals' for not helping him shoot the ball all by himself at the net.... and get nothing but air...

  • @aundraygreen3458
    @aundraygreen3458 2 года назад +46

    My fav clip on this video… When AI was speaking on leaving Kobe out of greatest comparison. “what they forgot ??”
    Classic ‼️😤💯

  • @Dr.Kevorkian
    @Dr.Kevorkian 2 года назад +50

    Whenever you see the number 23 what's your first thought? I'm glad somebody other than I remembers Kobe. How LeBron skipped over Kobe is beyond me.

    • @brianm7057
      @brianm7057 2 года назад +3

      Jordan and Kobe top 2 most skilled players, watch the highlights and they are ridiculous, like jaw dropping

    • @mariorodriguez2862
      @mariorodriguez2862 2 года назад +1

      HE WILHIPPED HIM OVER AND OVER AGAIN.THSTS HOW .BRON WAY BETTER

    • @peralozac4046
      @peralozac4046 2 года назад +3

      lebron never played serious D,saving energy for offense,and to be the goat you have to have complete package.oh yeah and not to flop on point guards cos you lose your credibility.

    • @Dr.Kevorkian
      @Dr.Kevorkian 2 года назад +3

      @@peralozac4046 Micheal Jordan is the complete package. That's why he's the goat. Nobody and I mean nobody will or has ever called Tom Brady the LeBron James of football... haha that's even reads stupid. If you're the GOAT of any sport you're referred to as The Micheal Jordan of said sport.

    • @webjock2k7
      @webjock2k7 2 года назад +2

      I think Kobe gets skipped over because of a combination of Mike and Kobe’s careers overlapping, + recency bias from the younger generation of fans who have only ever known and seen LBJ play. So they’re the ones pushing the argument that LeBron is the GOAT. And in order to do that, they skip straight to the greatest who came before him to compare and make their case. But, if they had seen Mike play his whole career and had seen Kobe follow, there would be less controversy and Kobe would be getting the recognition he deserves. I don’t know a single person who has watched all of both MJ and LeBeon’s careers, and considers LeBron to be better than Kobe, much less MJ.

  • @hopiamongo8119
    @hopiamongo8119 8 месяцев назад +2

    GOAT never had to make a claim because everyone knows he is

  • @therealdannyfenton
    @therealdannyfenton 3 года назад +42

    I never got to watch Mike, i know everything about him but i got to watch Kobe and... i've never felt more privileged to watch a basketball player.

    • @jermonttrice8536
      @jermonttrice8536 3 года назад +1

      The Jordan I know was on the wizards. But Kobe was special.

    • @durriellhumphrey
      @durriellhumphrey 3 года назад +4

      @Jermont Trice
      Kobe was special. But MJ was waaaayyyy more special. Trust me. Being a kid in the 80’s and 90’s watching MJ was a work of art. I mean where do you think Kobe got his moves from. Who do you think Kobe trained with for years. MJ was just on a different level. And the biggest reason for that was his ability to control the ball. It was like Steve Jobs and Apple. Way before their time.

    • @jermonttrice8536
      @jermonttrice8536 3 года назад +1

      I get all that it’s gonna be different for everyone I would’ve like to see a 90s Jordan but being born in 92 and not getting into ball until 2000s I can’t say how great he since I didn’t see that version of him

    • @durriellhumphrey
      @durriellhumphrey 3 года назад

      @Jermont Trice I understand and mad respect

    • @therealdannyfenton
      @therealdannyfenton 3 года назад +3

      @@durriellhumphrey I mean you can always pay homage humbly but 20 years, 1 franchise, 5 rings, and scored more points then MJ with more injuries then him... im not saying Mike isn't a GOAT cause he was special. But to say Mike was way more special is a stretch. 81 points in game, 60 in his last game, 4th all time in scoring, if Kobe isnt better he's arms length.

  • @mralanmcbride
    @mralanmcbride 2 года назад +365

    MJ had zero weaknesses. Not a single one. He was either pretty good, or great at everything. Kobe was extremely close.
    1-MJ
    2-KB

    • @jaybro2285
      @jaybro2285 2 года назад +15

      His weakness was the weak competition. MJ losing to the 2007 spurs, 2011 Mavs , and 2017 GSW.

    • @Romamb
      @Romamb 2 года назад +32

      @@jaybro2285 excuse me?

    • @kuplar3748
      @kuplar3748 2 года назад +35

      @@jaybro2285 MJ’s 1996 Bulls are way more talented than every single team you just named.

    • @blood5824
      @blood5824 2 года назад +10

      @@kuplar3748 yea bro MJ's 1996 bulls were better than Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Kevin Durant, Draymond Green, Iguodala... insane supporting cast, MJ's teammate as COACh

    • @kristianfaller290
      @kristianfaller290 2 года назад +12

      ​@@jaybro2285 MJ had weak competition? What about Celtics who played with 5 hall of famers, Bad Boys Pistons, Knicks (with Patrick Ewing), Orlando Magics (with Shaquille O'Neil) and the Indiana Pacers (with Reggie Miller).
      Look at this video ruclips.net/video/tl3mR6eoEa8/видео.html and tell me how LBJ is the better player. Sure, the vid was made in 2020 so it doesn't account for last years season where LBJ improved with one additional MVP.

  • @SoseyTR
    @SoseyTR 11 месяцев назад +128

    The last minute of the video provides the conclusion. One shameless self promotion completely divorced from reality and one humble and respectful admiration of those who come before.

    • @Tooldruid
      @Tooldruid 7 месяцев назад +5

      This. 100%

    • @tino0217
      @tino0217 6 месяцев назад +6

      Very well said, if I could put it into words that's what I would say. Humble

    • @isaiahayers1550
      @isaiahayers1550 5 месяцев назад +6

      MJ is the least humble athlete I've ever seen, but he did show humility there.
      I personally think MJ is probably better than LeBron, but like Mike said; nobody knows. Players from different eras, playing different positions, with different supporting casts, different injury history, different rules, different competition, etc. LeBron's claim is not "completely divorced from reality." You can make the argument that he's the more complete player, that he's more consistently been a better team player, that he doesn't score as well, but is the all time leading scorer, while also getting more assists and rebounds, and that he had tremendous success in getting to about a million Conference Finals in a row with far less surrounding talent than MJ had when he won 6 titles. And LeBron did that across 3 different franchises with several different coaches as well. LeBron's sustained greatness for two decades is only rivaled by Kareem. Maybe it could've been by MJ but he left for baseball for almost 2 full seasons, missed almost an entire year when he was very young, and retired from the Bulls with a lot left in the tank before coming back an old man with the Wizards. Had he not done that, maybe he would be the all time leading scorer - but he's not. MJ was a far better defender, but not a better passer or rebounder.
      People that try to make this a clear cut answer are missing a lot of nuance. MJ ruthlessly bullied his own teammates - would I want that if I were starting a franchise? No.

    • @repentofyoursinsandbelieve629
      @repentofyoursinsandbelieve629 5 месяцев назад

      insane

    • @islandmanbreaks9906
      @islandmanbreaks9906 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@isaiahayers1550he is the leading scorer for 1 reason only and that’s he played longer than everybody in the league so that shouldn’t even be part of the debate.

  • @frankingram3477
    @frankingram3477 4 месяца назад +1

    The GOAT discussion should never existed. The real discussion should be who's second: Kobe or LeBron. The fact is MJ and Kobe never flopped and never quit on his team. 6-8 250 power forwards should never get knocked over by picks thrown by 5'10', 155lb point guards.

  • @darrellbarnes1171
    @darrellbarnes1171 3 года назад +279

    When MJ came to your city, he sold out every Arena. Meaning, people come out just to see him preform. That's something we can't say about LBJ nor Kobe. The reason Kobe is lost in the MJ & LBJ conversation, that's because of the media, and this millennial generation! I'll take Kobe over LBJ any day!

    • @MrDipboy20
      @MrDipboy20 3 года назад +4

      Shaq plays a role in that too

    • @sharifoneal2115
      @sharifoneal2115 3 года назад

      Big Facts

    • @halfdeadbahgz1775
      @halfdeadbahgz1775 3 года назад +11

      @LYVE 1992 what killed kobe is after Shaq he never had an all star on his team. And still managed. If he played in this league or had this talent round him hes winning every year. All he needed was somone who was efficient and aggressive to take half that load off.

    • @nesslee7682
      @nesslee7682 3 года назад +20

      Bro staples center was always sold out when Kobe was playing wtf do you mean 🙄

    • @nesslee7682
      @nesslee7682 3 года назад +7

      @@halfdeadbahgz1775 they comparing gasol & Odom to wade bosh ray , Kylie k love & Davis rondo vs nobody just to move lebronze pass Kobe.

  • @sholland42
    @sholland42 2 года назад +39

    MJ explained it perfectly, giving props to the greats he never played against.

    • @dabosh78
      @dabosh78 Год назад

      Another reason why I hold MJ higher than Lebron.

  • @austinlamonge4741
    @austinlamonge4741 2 года назад +175

    Kobe and lebron “I’m the GOAT”
    MJ “I never got to play against those other legends”
    To be fair Kobe was joking when he said that

    • @NBAKING149
      @NBAKING149 2 года назад +2

      Mjs air jordan 12 says it on the back

    • @user-sy9ur6of8t
      @user-sy9ur6of8t 2 года назад +9

      you act like mike never said it 😂

    • @mazkebar
      @mazkebar 2 года назад +4

      BBBUT LE-BUM WASN’T #fact

    • @mazkebar
      @mazkebar 2 года назад +6

      @@user-sy9ur6of8t he never did! If u can objectively and with proof, PLEASE send the video over!

    • @user-sy9ur6of8t
      @user-sy9ur6of8t 2 года назад

      @@mazkebar ruclips.net/video/5uun3P6vjYM/видео.html wasnt that hard bud

  • @k.o.b.i.e.
    @k.o.b.i.e. 10 месяцев назад +2

    LeBron and Jordan's comments say everything in this debate

  • @alexsherel3344
    @alexsherel3344 2 года назад +177

    MJ...just, MENTALLY, HEART-WISE, DESIRE, DRIVE, and GAME DOMINANT. He was just built different. Head, heart, and skill.

    • @chrishedricks308
      @chrishedricks308 2 года назад +5

      Definitely mj sweeps easy no comp

    • @Islandvybz96
      @Islandvybz96 2 года назад +1

      That’s everything Kobe is! with more skills

    • @alexsherel3344
      @alexsherel3344 2 года назад +6

      @@Islandvybz96 MJ Prime vs Kobe prime..MJ wins. MJ was an assassin. Play the game on the court AND in your head. Kobe is the closest. Not counting the older era. Different type of game then. MJ had DEFENSE too.

    • @RealSoloShow
      @RealSoloShow 2 года назад

      @@alexsherel3344 Have you asked MJ who would beat him?

    • @alexsherel3344
      @alexsherel3344 2 года назад +2

      @@RealSoloShow Michael saying something now, while he’s older, is far from what a Prime MJ would say and do. TRUST ME!!!

  • @loutishaward4475
    @loutishaward4475 2 года назад +13

    I appreciate Mike recognizing the guys before him I never seen Mike that humble before

  • @InvestBetter.
    @InvestBetter. 3 года назад +391

    LeBron: "Winning that last one made me the greatest player of all time! I'm The King!"
    Planet Earth: "No.. It's still Mike, so stop begging!"🤣

    • @danli7262
      @danli7262 2 года назад +11

      He is abit ahead of himself... Most people know how he won the title in 2016, 5 Cav players + 3 refs vs 5 Warriros players. Period.

    • @typhlosionproductions5970
      @typhlosionproductions5970 2 года назад +10

      I hate when people act like mikes the universal goat. Im a wilt guy

    • @billr5842
      @billr5842 2 года назад +3

      The Mickey mouse ring??? Lol.

    • @autismspectrum-k7y
      @autismspectrum-k7y 2 года назад +2

      @@billr5842 how’s that a Mickey mouse ring it wasn’t rigged or anything

    • @autismspectrum-k7y
      @autismspectrum-k7y 2 года назад

      @@billr5842 JUST. A
      Bogut injury isn’t anything the suspension isn’t anything since dray came back the game after that sus

  • @patg3424
    @patg3424 10 месяцев назад +13

    After Lebron quit and walked off the court in the finals game Heat vs Dallas he became automatically disqualified from the goat consideration. A champion does not quit period.

    • @rocwilliams6347
      @rocwilliams6347 6 месяцев назад +1

      Mj literally left the game of basketball for a year

    • @harrisonwoolf6883
      @harrisonwoolf6883 6 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@rocwilliams6347 only to come back and get another 3-peat immediately.

    • @rocwilliams6347
      @rocwilliams6347 6 месяцев назад

      @@harrisonwoolf6883 not immediately got his ass whopped by the magic thennnn 3 peated imagine lebron quitting during his peak

    • @pulkitnahata4140
      @pulkitnahata4140 6 месяцев назад

      @@rocwilliams6347 Because his father was murdered and he wanted to fulfill his father's wish that MJ would play Baseball professionally.

    • @annamartinez7028
      @annamartinez7028 4 месяца назад

      ​@@pulkitnahata4140his father was murdered cause of him

  • @racerdude888
    @racerdude888 3 года назад +113

    It's easy to think of MJ and Kobe as the greatest. If you watched them in real time you'd know also. MJ gets the edge in my opinion. With LeBron it seems forced on us. It's too bad because his accolades stand for themselves but everyone in this era wants to keep comparing. When we say MJ or kobe were better we're called haters. We're not haters we just know

    • @michaelestrada8262
      @michaelestrada8262 2 года назад +13

      100% truth. It’s just absolutely forced on us.

    • @mariorodriguez2862
      @mariorodriguez2862 2 года назад +5

      sorry but bron proved for years he better than kobrick..be foreal..m

    • @bronxbomber2004
      @bronxbomber2004 2 года назад +2

      Lebron average more points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks, 4 MVPS than Kobe but Kobe is better, okay. They also played in the league 13 years at the same time Kobe 1 mvp to Lebron's 4, kobe 2 finals mvp Lebron 4. How is Kobe better?

    • @FeiXenogears
      @FeiXenogears 2 года назад +4

      @@bronxbomber2004 James is a SF and Kobe was a SG and SF are suppose to get more rebounds. You have to look at each player and what Position they played

    • @bronxbomber2004
      @bronxbomber2004 2 года назад +1

      @@FeiXenogears true but what about the other 4 categories and Lebron shot at a higher FG and 3P percentage