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- The Acolyte is a new Disney+ Star Wars show about a former Jedi going on the run to stop her twin sister's Jedi killing spree to prove her innocence. Except it's really not. It doesn't seem to know what it is, aside from the most hated and lowest-rated show on TV. So let's try to find out why that is.
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Star Wars: The Acolyte
The Acolyte is a mystery-thriller that will take viewers into a galaxy of shadowy secrets and emerging dark-side powers in the final days of the High Republic era. A former Padawan reunites with her Jedi Master to investigate a series of crimes, but the forces they confront are more sinister than they ever anticipated. Immerse yourself in the captivating world of "Star Wars: The Acolyte" with the official trailer that unveils a thrilling mystery set in the waning days of the High Republic era. Premiering exclusively on Disney+ on June 4th, 2024, this highly anticipated series promises to delve into uncharted territory within the Star Wars universe.Against the backdrop of a flourishing Galactic Republic upheld by the vigilant Jedi guardians, a shadow begins to emerge, signaling the rise of unseen darkness. Follow the journey of a disillusioned former Padawan who is drawn back into the Jedi Order when a series of unsettling the acolyte trailer 2024 teaser the acolyte who is the sith the acolyte ending explained twist the acolyte bad flop lowest rated everything wrong with the acolyte acolyte best moments bad show terrible show worst moments acolyte videos bad good critique crimes grip the galaxy. Teaming up with her Jedi Master, they embark on the acolyte watch online free full season sith explained a heart-pounding acolyte episode 6 7 8 1 2 3 4 5 acolyte woke garbage investigation that will test their understanding of the Force and challenge the very essence of light and dark.
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We live in times when people are more excited for reviews of Star Wars content than for Star Wars content itself
As Nutsa put it: we're living in the fan fiction era of Hollywood.
So yeah, it kinda checks out.
stupid is the one who see star wars this cadaver stinks
dude that's so true bestie, like i literally never have watched any starwars stuff
i dont see star wars since ep 8
I mean the reviews are funny, the content is garbage
"I was trained to be a space wizard, but that didn't work out, and there's no market for space wizard skills"...what?
And she doesn’t even have space wizard skills, considering she couldn’t even force pull a tiny droid toolkit. So honestly what skills does she have at all.
@@kendrick6740 maybe she couldn't find a market for her skills because she sucks at it, you are right, she doesn't have any unique skills shown in the show to warrant a main protag role. what a mess of a story.
@@kendrick6740 And then she has enough force skill to force choke a Jedi Master. Earlier, she couldn't muster enough force power to kill a bug, stop a flying chainsaw, or getting yeeted by a greasy sith wannabe.
@@jaywu4804but if she sucks at “force” why’s she mc in star wars
@@priyanshuanubis I think MC without Jedi skills can work very well, if they are good at something. Han Solo and Leia in the original movies were interesting characters, heck, even C3PO or R2D2 were more interesting. (And yes, Luke is technically the main character, but I would argue those are also major characters - Han and Leia do alot in those movies.)
Issue here is that the show makes the effort of telling us she is so great, but not showing it (she actually is pretty bad at most things. Her skills as a mechanic come down to using a droid who does the work. So she is a glorified cupholder. Yay), not to mention that she later suddenly again is awesome at it with no real explanation (people with no or poor force abilities don't suddenly get awesome at it just because they get angry). Add to it that most characters in the show, but the MC especially, are just boring characters and you have a whole mess.
The novice mistakes would have been less aggravating if this was a small and experimental project. But it costs $180 mil. At this budget, all these mistakes make you cringe in disbelief that a school play level script ended up in such an expensive production.
and even that's an insult to school plays I'm pretty sure, willing to bet a bunch of actual children would make a better show if left to their own devices
As so many people pointed out: Every episode costs more than double Godzilla Minus one's entire budget
They have no idea what to do with star wars
imagine what good could have been done if the just had donated that money to worthwhile charity.
$20 Million an episode comes out to $6,000 a second. Seriously? For a series to end up cancelled? Sounds deliberate to me.
I still wanna know where the 180 million dollar budget went. It wasnt the acting, cgi, sets, props. Can we make sure the showrunners dont suddenly have brand new bugattis or something?
Kinda regret I wasn't on their highly generous payroll. I guess with my zero education and experience in movie production, I would be too overqualified for this project.
Intimacy coordinators
They installed three toilets on set and well... Toilets are extremely expensive!
Lucas Film paid Disney and Disney paid Lucas Film and money go round, big accounting numbers. Production doesn't make a profit, no tax paid.
they probably offered the squid games star a good sum to be a display in that show. they probably think him and trinity would be enough of distraction
I don't know why Palpatine wasted all that time and tax payer credits on order 66 when all he had to do was throw knives
Or just air The Acolyte on all Republic channels. lol
@@johannjohann6523the Sith have limits to their evil
@@moonshine588wouldn't wish it on my worst haters
The Acolyte feels more like a Rebel Moon spin-off than a Star Wars project.
Star wars has been crap for over a decade now
That's all day facts.
Rebel moon is better than acolyte lol but both are bottom barrel.
And this Friday we get the almost 4 hours long Snyder extended cuts. So excited! /s
Oof 😂
The main "actress" has the same face in every scene. It is impressive how emotionless one can look...
Which is a shame cause she's a really good actress. She's pretty stellar in The Hate U Give
It's a perfect storm: an actress incapable of acting even when given a script like Fight Club, confronted with a role so devoid of anything even remotely enactable that even Meryl Streep would probably throw in the towel.
Yeah, at least Daisy Ridley *tried* to act occasionally in the sequel trilogy, even if it was mostly pretty bad. Still infinitely better than a completely deadpan "Killing my friends sure is a thing you did."
Nope, you're wrong
That's because she's not an actress, she's just being herself: a narcissistic, emotionless piece of trash.
the most unrealistic thing is that these two identical twins with absolutely different personalities chose to have the same unique hairstyle in a setting where everyone has highly expressive hairstyles. They still go to the same stylist?
Wait because you’re so right… not only that, but the same exact length? Neither of them ever did something random and spontaneous to change their appearance? The one excuse I can think of is that since they are the “same person”, they both prefer the same things as the other. But that’s still flimsy.
I mean Mae had a mullet basically lol what pissed me off that she cut it so cleanly with one swipe ala Rapunzel lol
That is actually a real thing. There are multiple reports of identical twins having same kind of style even if separeted at birth.
The point is that they are not twins, but the same person, split...this reinforces this idea even more
@@onnimannimaki8846 a simple hairstyle like wearing middle part or a bob, yeah, but this kind of locs, dyed the exact same shade of red in the same exact spots?
The worst part about this is within the old extended universe we had several "jedi killer" characters that are intensely interesting and describe in great detail how those killings would be performed. My favorite being a character in knights of the old republic 2, who describes how to destabilize a jedi with forced emotional trauma by targeting padawans and how to mask intent with mental exercises to get close to a potential target.
There are so many ways they could have made this killer absolutely terrifying.
Instead, we get an "assassin" whose strategy boils down to "stand in front of target, demand a fight, hope they oblige to any rule asked of them instead of cutting you in half".
Agreed, the first jedi fight couldve been like the video said. She spied on her for several days and find pattern. After isolating and giving the Jedi disadvantages, she strikes down fast and disappear
Then only we cut to our main hero, being targeted by the Jedi. and do stuffs
Theyre just blatantly boring
when I think of a jedi killer, I immediately think of grievous, mainly because of how terrifying he is (or used to be)
Knights of the Old Republic was done very well. And obviously by people who were fans of Star Wars. Who really kept it to the real Star Wars yet still wrote a very detailed and lengthy story line. But then allowed you to pick Light or Dark side. Two thumbs up in my book.
@johannjohann6523 KOTOR 2, considered the best one, was actually made by someone who wasn't a Star Wars fan, but just did his research before writing the game
The show literally has nobody to root for. Everyone is morally grey, evil or stupid.
You can do morally grey with good writing (Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, Game of Thrones), but this show felt like it was written by people who have never left their homes and have never had a real conversation with real people.
It’s just terrible.
The thing with the morally grey worlds is that generally they either include the characters across the moral spectrum (the obvious dead horse here, Game of Thrones, has Ned Stark, Jon Snow, Joffrey, Brienna, Drogo and Ramsay) or make at least some of the characters do both good and evil stuff (Hound or Jaime in GoT), with the viewer swinging at the emotional pendulum. I mean, it should not be that hard, most of the mainstream fantasy, from the more classic Silmarillion to the contemporary Green Bone Saga, accomplish that. But the Acolyte... well...
You can root for or at least be invested in morally grey characters, or even stupid ones. I bet you could think of some examples from successful shows. But they have to be compelling characters with clear motivations.
Not only that, the show takes establihsed characters and the Jedia organization and says "Nah, they were actually bad, Yoda is a liar. Conehead guy, he was part of cover up. It's all a conserpicy because the Jedi are actually corrupt and terrible people." It's not like Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, or Game of Thrones because those don't take established characters and organizations as been previously established as good and turn them morally gray, this does, and goes a step further.
It just shows you how the creatives at Lucas Film see the world.
And the dumb thing is that, they have shown they can do it with Andor
But with Jedi mythology, the jedi are tragic heroes / but they are still heroes.
The Sith have a point - but they are still villains because their point isn't incorporated into the virtue of the jedi
Its just an excuse for their selfishness and pursuit of power
This show attempts to make villains of heroes and make excuses for the villains
And that is a fundamental misunderstanding of Star Wars as Lucas wrote it
How is it that Helluva boss has literal assassins as the main characters, and yet they're more likable morally grey characters then the frigging jedi in this prequel?
Carrie-Anne Moss being in this show was a bait and switch. They definitely purposefully gave the impression that she would have a major role and then just killed her off first episode.
Shes is part in what, 3 out of 8 episodes? Thats almost half. She also seem to be the only Jedi actually following the philosophy of kindness and connection that the order are supposed to follow (possibly other than Sol, who does it for the wrong reasons).
@@remster5284 Rian Johnson and “subverting your expectations” have been a disaster for the Star Wars franchise.
Have you even seen the show? She is one of the most important side characters
Not only that, but she gets killed with a knife by some rando. No way a Jedi Master would die like that.
She wasn't just killed in the first episode. She was killed before the title card, lol. 3 minutes in?
Two main protagonists of The Acolyte:
Mae: Has a different motive every episode.
Osha: Has no motive in any episode.
Mae: We can actually "understand" a few of her actions
Osha: We cant really get sht
One of the things that annoys me is by the end of the end we are supposed to like Mae. But her first action is randomly attacking people, beating up bar patrons, threatening to kill a bunch of inocente, then kill who we think is a Nobel Jedi. Then through the series as we learn about them they don’t get better we learn that she started a fire that nearly killed her whole family, and who’s allegiance is as flimsy as a sheet of paper
She has no redeeming qualities throughout the show
Are we tho? Maybe relieved she joined "the good side" or made "the right choice", but i dont think she is supposed to be liked or redeemed. We see a an orphaned girl, groomed by the dark side for a big of her life (more if we consider the cult dark side users), dealing with the consequenses of her action for most of the series and at the end starting to make decisions for herself, not what the coven or a dark side master tells her to think. And it hardly ends well for her, having her memory, and therefore most of her identity, wiped and the last scenes seen being interrogated by a corrupt jedi for a crime (atleast who she could be consitered to be now, didnt even commit).
I dont think we are supposed to like Mae, i think we are supposed to feel sorry for her and the life torn to pieces by her having walked a path in the dark side. And maybe hopefull that she finally have a way out of the shadow.
@@bjornk14a character who was never shown to be wrong cannot be “redeemed”. Osha joining the dark side was, by the creators own words, triumphant. She says the Jedi are an “institutional threat” facing the “underdog” sith
@@bjornk14 feeling sorry for her is horrible, there is nothing to feel sorry for, a character needs to have some redeeming qualities and at some point be likeable, osha and mae are both selfish and cruel and flippant throughout the show, at no point do you connect with them, they just act like immoral people the whole time, when bad things happen to bad people hard to connect .
@@TrueGamer22887 lol, shes shown to be plenty wrong tho? A willing murderer, dark side user, who prioritize herself before all others.
I absolutely agree on osha turning to the dark side is thriumphant (and i like that). But i were talking bout Mae?
I can’t believe someone deadass wrote that a former Jedi trainee would have a hard time finding decent employment
In lore before this the jedi have a massive demand for drop outs so any who leave the order wouldnt have any issues getting work and there are a heap of roles in the jedi that dont include fighting or swinging a lightsaber
Especially in a universe where there is an entire region of space where mercenaries are in high demand.
If you can think of a good use for people with literal superpowers, then by all means point it out. It's not like several jedi, in extremely important franchise plot points, have made their way and survived in a universe that was much more hostile to them and that was actively hunting and trying to exterminate them or anything.
It's honestly stupid how writers just forget how multi-talented the Jedi actually are. Like, it might SEEM suspicious that Padawans are trained from such a young age, but that's because there is _a LOT_ of skills and abilities that all Jedi are supposed to know and it realistically takex many years to fully learn them (extremely quick learners like Luke are outliers). Lightsaber combat (reflexes, eye-hand coordination), Force abilities (levitation, mind tricks), emotion control, basic tech skills, basic first aid, ship piloting, the list goes on.
Even if Osha was just a Padawan, it should be laughably easy for her to get some kind of entry-level job with the many talents that Jedi train in. A private detective, a medic, a commercial pilot, a security guard, or even maybe a bounty hunter, just to name a few.
But she did have meaningful work, what are you even talking about? She was a crew member on a ship. And maybe she didnt take a role within the order for non combat jedi because she didnt want anything to do with them at all
That line in the show about being trained to be a Jedi not leaving a lot of other opportunities available when she didn’t become one really illustrates how little the writers know about the Jedi and their training I think.
Leslie equated jedi training with being Harvey Weinsteins victim and enabler.
She literally compared jedi training to surviving sexual assault and being made an accomplice in sexual assault.
The acolytes main point is that the Jedi are baby stealing rapists who raise you to steal and rape babies.
It's like saying you quit buddhism because you couldn't find a job as a monk. 🤡
If you want to see a "Padawan" hunt and kill Jedi. Play 'Star Wars: The Force Unleashed'
🎯
Played that awesome game more than a decade ago
Apprentice :o
Starkiller's story has been so evergreen to Disney, they've copied it 3 times already! (Ezra, Cal, Osha)
I don't actually want to see that, thank you though.
What I dislike about modern SW is how strangely amoral it is. OG Star Wars had moral themes and the modern content either steps on morals or has none. In the OT it’s shown using anger for power is a path to evil (like when Luke beats Vader with rage but then tosses his saber to reject the emperor in return of the jedi) and the good side win through friends, but in the sequel trilogy Rey uses rage to win her fights and never suffers from it as though it’s a good thing that she just angrily overpowers everyone. In the OT Han Solo is kind of a bad guy but he has a moral core & shows maturity and growth before he gets into a relationship with Leia, whereas in the acolyte Osha is attracted to the manipulative Qimir after he murdered many people including her friends and it’s portrayed as a fulfilling event. Similar to Reys romance with Kylo despite the fact he tortured her and destroyed planets. It’s just strange, it’s like the writers are portraying themselves as more moral than the original creators through hamfisted politics and vapid diversity but the actual core message of their work is way more immoral.
Modern meaning prequels too right? Mace behead a kids dad in front of him, jedi are regularly seen as flawed and outright wrong. Or do you mean the originals where Han shot first? Good winning in the end, yes. Jedi/the heroes being good all the way through? Nooooope need to re-watch the source material. Hell, Luke pulls a Vader on a gammorean at the beginning of 6.
@@gtwonders4803 i disagree, Han shooting first is a) not confirmed and b) he is portrayed as morally ambiguious, Mace Windu was being shot at by a bounty hunter while also in the midst of a firefight against overwhelming numbers, what he did was not nice but was reasonable, and Luke does show obvious signs of change at the end of ep. 6. I think that while George Lucas was making Star Wars morals/righteousness/good vs evil were overarchhing themes thhat have been thrown aside in order to aid in the mkaing of complex characters, which are so badly written that there was no point. Just my observations tho :)
@@gtwonders4803 you misunderstand me, I’m not saying the issue is showing good guys doing bad things, it’s the context around it. Mace eventually suffered the consequences, that was Han Solo before he was redeemed.
The questionable morality speaks volumes about the writers/directors... Of course they want to portray selfishness and power in a sympathetic light. They don't want to see themselves as the villains.
@@billusher2265you are arguing to a Disney simp, don't bother.
I found it interesting to compare Acolyte with Andor. As I rewatched Andor I saw some peculiar similarities. They both try to be a bit more adult. They both have a heavier reliance on non-Volume sets. They both even have a big flashback episode to the protagonists childhood where the outside world crashes in and rips them from their more humble backwoods culture.
But as Acolyte left me apathetic as nothing really had consequences I cared about. Where characters speak only plot and platitudes, where no room is left for scenes to breathe and be impactful. The contrast was so sharp when a split second decision of Andor while searching for his sister ruins the life of an officer he never met, sends ripples through his home town and the galaxy.
In one show. Nothing really matters. In the other, shooting the wrong goon can destroy the lives of everyone around you.
Guess which one had me on the edge of my seat throughout the runtime.
Yes, it's the one where a lone Tie fighter is treated like a weapon of terror and suppression and where Storm Troopers shoot to kill.
I feel gaslit by this show. It tells me one thing and then shows the complete opposite of that onscreen.
Whaaaat? You’re not being gaslit. Not by good ol Disney! Silly silly. Now shut up and slurp this slop *I MEAN* enjoy this thoughtful, progressive, insightful, and diverse show! To do anything else is to call yourself a bigot! *ALL HAIL THE MOUSE*
Thats because you are. Lately Hollyweird is executing something that critics have labeled as Audience Gas Lighting: basically is showing the audience something the studio knows is a terrible idea and will be highly controversial, but its done with the intention to be spoken of and cause criticism so people will Hate Watch it. If you ever wondered why Master Chief took off his helmet on the first episode of Halo, why Snow White, a character known for her white pale but beautiful skin, is now brown and why Disney is introducing a new source of power that you bet your ass they will replace The Force in terms of heroism, this is why.
@@LordofSadFac What a crock of shit! It's simply a complex story with complex characters. Grow up. And read some novels.
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@@skytron22the power of 1, the power of 2, the power of...MMMAAANNNYYY
Rings of Power: "Im the most hated show on TV"
The Acolyte: "Hold my thread"
I would say “Blue Milk” but clearly that would show more respect to Star Wars than the show gave.
Lol nice.
Ahem….Velma?
@osmanyousif7849 Velma is kinda funny imo.
@osmanyousif7849 yeah Velma is definitely worse Acolyte is at least funny enough in a way you can make fun of it, me and my cousin have said the power of many chant together after i told him about it and its so god damn stupid 😂 velma is a just an attempted self insert of a rich bitch who tries to act like a victim of racism and poverty so the only funny thing about it is shes actually a self insert for fred, the character she herself shits on all the time 😂😂
It feels like they're trying to approach Star Wars as "there are no bad guys", but they forgot or didn't realize that a great villian can still be someone that the audience sympathizes with. That's to say, an antagonist can still be bad, but the audience can still understand what led them to being bad.
6:15 this is such a common problem these days and I've no idea why. Basically in every TV show our protagonist lacks any agency. They're just along for the ride.
Protagonist are meant to have some sort of inceing incident in order for them to go on an adventure, but modern writers don't want their characters to suffer, so they just get everything of the bat.
@@leviticusprime4904 they don't want them to suffer so there's no motivation. They want them to be all perfect so there's no struggle. They want them to be bad ass so there's no need for learning. They think they created this bad ass, epic hero we will all admire, while in reality they created a boring nobody.
I would say that is result of need for as many seasons/prequels/sequels/spin offs as humanly possible. It is case of building your Universe rather characters as you can milk that Universe, but not so much main hero. With less flash out character with no over reaching story you can also change course easily and let writers go as needed.
Probably because some movies and TV shows are made with action set pieces shot first while writers come later to connect the scenes together.
You're not watching the good shows. There are still some good ones around.
I really get the idea whoever wrote this used to be a fanfic writer on tumblr and never grew out of that
*all modern disney writers
bruh, even fanfic writer are better than who ever write this acolyte-sh1t
Written by the lesbian accomplice to Harvey Weinstein. She's self hating and repressed, exactly the type of person Disney would elevate to denigrate all queers everywhere and invalidate our struggles. She's a patsy of the highest quality.
Don't do the Tumblr fanfic writers like this....
ive read more emotion in a fanfic than ive read on that actress' face
From what I've seen; it does not get better. We find out Mr Drinks-The-Poison was a Padawan when the incident they're supposed to be responsible for happens and he got mind-r*ped while the Wookie-Jedi gets full-on mind controlled by the Coven and forced to attack his friends. Then Leader-mom wants Osha to go with the Jedi but when they arrive basically gets huffy and goes 'over my dead body will you take her anywhere'; full-on confrontational, gets stabbed with a lightsaber as she turns into a shadow-monster, then gaslights the Jedi about letting her daughter go with them despite what she said 30s earlier.
It's like they wrote each scene separately and then cobbled them together afterwards but without adjusting it to be coherent.
Maybe it was written con AI
I mean, I didn’t watch Acolyte, I have been done with star wars for a few years now… but it feels like Disney just keeps asking, “you think that last star wars thing was bad? Na na na, watch how bad THIS is”
“Rock bottom has a basement” has been a constant theme with most of Disney Star Wars.
its like a never ending game of "hold my beer"
I think they are creating shows just to fill holes in the universe. This was a timeline and aspect that hadn't been looked at so let's do a show about it. Full it with lots of references and Easter eggs for the fans.
The only time I felt it didn’t mess up was Andor. Sure, it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. It’s a slow burn but you can tell at least it has the same care and attention as the OT, covering similar themes, messages and historical parallels that you won’t see in the other Disney Minus shows.
Yup. I'm the same. I was done with SW when I watched the the Force Awakens. Rogue Squadron gave me hope they might course correct but after I heard (I didn't watch anything more) what they did to the rest of the trilogy I knew there was no going back. I mean I could still come back to SW one day, I was a huge fan for too long for this not to be the case, but I have 2 prerequisites to even consider it: 1- Disney sells Lucasfilm. As long as Disney keeps the IP, I will not even bother. 2- Whoever buys the franchise, officially states that Disney SW is no longer canon. With BOTH of those requirements met, then, and ONLY then, would I even give a chance to a new SW movie/show.
The line delivery of Skylar whites “yo” has more emotion and writing behind it than this entire show.
Which skyler white are we talkin, the animated one?
@@tonytruong861 the breaking bad mom. Great actress.
Dude....2025 Comment of the year 😂😂😂😂😂
But Osha does use her mechnik skills later! In episode 8, when she hacks into the lift to get into the stone fortress. The one that caught fire. And the generator exploded. 16 years ago. But yeah the electronic lift and control panel still work. Guess we weren’t supposed to think about it.
the script wouldn't have passed any script writing class without major revisions... this is first draft material. any producer worth their salt would not have green lit without major revisions
First draft? Just like the last Jedi 😂
Agreed
Supposedly it went through two major rewrites having tested poorly, but I don't believe it
@@anovaguy either do I.
@@anovaguyi believe it, they’re likely testing the material with folks who don’t give a furry flying fook about Star Wars lol
I think that Basil is representative of the problems with the entire show. He only exists as "a tracker" because the plot demands it. There's no reason why Kelnacca couldn't have a radio to communicate with the rest of the Jedi, or have a routine location that he checks into to give process reports and receive supplies, but no. He's been lost in the woods for a year, so we need a badger thing to sniff his jock strap that the Jedi kept in a closet somewhere for a year just for such an occasion.
Basil somehow finds Kelnacca's house even though you'd think that the forest would be covered with his scent after a year of living there, but fine. Then, after the twins switch places, he follows Mae back, since he is suspicious that she is not Osha. Once on the ship, he is convinced that it's Mae, and so he 'fights' with her for a bit and then runs away to warn Sol.
And then when Mae flees in an escape pod and Sol chases her, Basil... just loses his mind and gets super pissed at Sol for no apparent reason and starts ripping wires out of the ship. Sol does not acknowledge that Basil is sabotaging him, never questions why he is changing sides, and lands the ship despite the damage. And then, when the rest of the Jedi catch up, Basil switches sides AGAIN and just goes along with the rest of the Jedi, even though he is a witness to everything that transpired and could vouch for Sol's innocence (if his stupid brain was on 'good' at that moment).
His motivations change in an instant with no explanation, and no one questions this even though he is supposedly an intelligent creature capable of thought and understanding.
That’s cause he isn’t a character, he’s a shitty plot device
That's obviously because he's not Basil, he's Darth Basil the Snide and he has been orchestrating everything from the beginning!
Why did the Jedi even need that tracker in the first place? Mae and Qimir didnt have a tracker and found Kelnacca first. And in the finale Qimir AGAIN found Osha and Mae first without Basil when they were sitting under their tree.
Bazil represent Acolyte shills
Do you remember how Ahsoka had a character who's whole point was to remind the audience that Ahsoka doesn't "Follow standard jedi protocol."? And here, we have a story based on the Jedi at the height of their power/start of their decline, and they have no protocol at all for handling anything and seem to be more unprofessional than Ahsoka, the jedi so unprofessional its literally a running gag in her own show how unprofessional she is?
It's like Disney doesn't even watch their own shows.
Imagine spending years devoting yourself to become a Jedi all for some self proclaimed assassin child to kill you in 4 minutes.
Any producer who reads a script with the words "evil twin" in the synopsis and doesn't immediately throw it in the trash should be fired for incompetence.
@@grfrjiglstan Hans Ramoray, Drake's evil twin!
I bet someone at Disney thought it was okay because the twins were actually 'the same person', like that made any difference 😅
Unless it's Shakespeare. Then it's gold
Although this example I’m making is a game, TJoC:SM does make one mention of "evil twin", although in the context of TJoC:SM, these "evil twins" are demons stealing the bodies and identities of the people they come to resemble, and TJoC:SM is a highly praised FNAF fangame. I feel like anyone who reads a script that has "evil twin" in the synopsis and doesn’t bother looking into the context of it should be fired.
@@S-Fan2006 TJoC:SM?
I feel like Disney should take notes from Cal Kestis (before he goes on a journey) when attempting to make a character that's trying to blend in with the force-less world while being a force-sensitive Jedi.
i liked those games, but wasn't a huge fan of the character or story in general. but compared to this nonsense...it's oscar worthy.
I don't want to see Disney and Cal Kestis in the same sentence ever again. They would ruin him
@@_CrissoNIt feels weird to say this but I hope he dies in the third game so Disney doesn’t get a chance to get their hands on him
The sad thing is l think Disney DID take notes of Cal, which is why they made Osha a similar labor worker type that a non force user can do. But they are so stupid that they failed to realize that Cal was living in a world where Jedi were HUNTED. That's why he didn't use his force powers or training, which is why they eroded over time. There's literally ZERO REASON why Osha isn't using her force powers or training after leaving the academy. Um....they wouldn't be pretty useful as a bounty hunter or bodyguard? 😂
Especially the part about Cal being weak for a Jedi. He barely remembers his basic powers and can get overwhelmed by aggressive frogs or higher ranking Stormtroopers. When an actual Sith showed up, the best he could do is run.
That's how you show the character is an underdog while giving room to grow.
“It was so bad that competing star wars communities put aside their differences and came together to hate it with a passion”
It was so bad it brokered a temporary peace. 😂 Thats how you KNOW something is truly fucking horrible.
Before the Acolyte: “For a thousand generations, the Jedi were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic.”
After the Acolyte: “For a thousand generations the Jedi were bumbling galactic police. Padawans craved the comfort of Coruscant so they instigated deadly conflicts. The Jedi killed and covered up their actions while lying to the Senate. A master even tortured her Padawans with a lightsaber whip.”
Mace Windu: It's impossible that there is a Sith, there haven't been any Sith in over 1000 years!
This show: Intrdouces a new Sith practically every episode
havent watched the Acolyte so i dont feel confident in having a strong opinion. However, the Jedi Order was not supposed to be perfect. The Clone Wars (especially the later seasons) showed how the Jedi, rather than spreading peace, were prolonging war. They did have good intentions and a majority of the Jedi were good people, but the Order and especially the council did not make great decisions all of the time. The problem with portraying the Jedi the way people are saying the Acolyte did is that it sounds like it undermines the literal pillar beliefs of the Jedi like this was a normal thing. Its okay to sometimes show flawed Jedi or even ones that are kinda bad people. However, it feels off when thats JUST what you're showing.
Actually the jedi aren't supposed to be universally good, its just that the films made them look so. You can read General Grievous's lore as an example of them being pretty lazy which led to a catastrophic outcome.
The Acolyte isn’t canon in my book.
@@censorcensored4879 Ain’t no way you just hit me with an “ehrm actually” 💀
One the biggest flaws to me is it doesn't work as a stand alone series, nor does it work with the wider Star Wars universe. It is super loose with lore and facts, causing tons of problems with established canon by nothing more than sheer negligence by the writers. But then it also loves to pull obscure facts out of the expanded universe to explain away details that the show itself doesn't bother to explain.
Remember the producers were PROUD of the fact that some of the writers have never seen Star Wars...
@@Peterski Why does that happen? Why is that a fad? Same thing's been happening to the Halo franchise, and i'm sure many more. Why do they take so much pride in their ignorance, especially as it keeps losing them money?
What part of the lore and facts and established canon was it super loose with? If you name anything from Legends, none of that is canon anymore
@@loudimes5502 The Jedi knowing the Sith still exist a mere what hundred years or so before the start of canon? The jedi being investigated and restricted in the past when seemingly they had supreme power in the Prequels hence the whole Order 66 thing?
@@JustaGuy_Gaming of course the Jedi knew what sith were. They knew what they were in the prequels they just thought they were extinct. They were all surprised by Qimir in the show and he was able to kill so many jedi pretty easily because they had no experience in fighting a dark side user. The jedi did not have supreme power in the prequels thats why Palpatine was able to insist on Anakin joining the council and its also a good reason why there was barely any immediate opposition to Palpy reforming the republic into the empire
What I like about his videos is how he describes how bad movies and TV shows are without bringing up anything political
It's almost impressive how they could have such a large galaxy with so many possible premises and characters, but they manage to fail at almost every turn. Over a decade of disney star wars and what do we have to show for it?
a franchise so dead that its barely worth 50 percent of the original purchasing price.
Well, Rogue One was fun, and Andor, of course. But a film of 5 and a TV show of 3 or 4... not great stats
I mean, Rebels was their very first production, and they did do Clone Wars S7, plus Mando S1 and S2. And of course Andor and Rogue One.
Andor ist great. Rogue One is great. Mando Season 1-2 are great. Rebels S 2-4 are great. Well ... The rest is not so great 😢
What, are you saying that seeing people go to tattooine, the DESERT PLANET populated almost entirely by normal ass human beings isn't EXCITING to watch for the 20th time? Are you saying that having entire planets be one ecosystem is absurd and boring? Are you saying that every single planet having pretty much copy-pasted cultures across the globe is BAD WRITING?
The absolute nerve of you!
The whole jedi killings and a jedi being framed and going on the run while proving her innocence story was already done at the end of season 5 in the clone wars and done so much better too.
My absolute favorite movement in the entire show is when Mae realizes that she cant get through the force field on torbin, show she tries a sneak attack on it.
Can just hear Sokka yelling, "Sneak attaaaack!"
The symbolism is a little strange. A white man is floating serenely in his bubble of privilege and an angry black woman is completely powerless to do anything about it. The only way she can "win" is if he decides to just give up. It sure looks like Black Girl Magic is far, far weaker than White Boy Magic.
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I just wish this was another series that was announced and never went anywhere. At least then I could imagine how cool it would be to have a mystery-thriller about a Sith Acolyte assassinating Jedi Masters in the High Republic Era, maybe it going like a Jedi Master Sherlock Holmes with a Padawan Watson and them slowly investigating each murder (that we see at the start of each episode or arc) and eventually leading to a climatic duel against the Acolyte and their master hiding the truth of the Sith until the Battle of Naboo.
Disney needs to realize people would be perfectly happy with Star Wars renditions of classic stories. STar WArs is literally a remix of the Heroes Journey, and it works perfectly. But most of all they need to stop using women and minorities as patsies. We've got enough trouble without megacorps using us as human shields.
@@haydentravis3348 Legit, Star Wars was just a high fantasy made into sci fi.
A "newcomer"/"rookie" should not have been in charge of a $180m production. Least of all a newcomer/rookie who is formerly Harvey Weinstein's personal assistant.
Accomplice
she was WHAT?!
The issue the fan base had with this show was it being made by people who openly know nothing about Star Wars and hate the series. They Jake Skywalkered the Jedi making them stupid, incompetent and weak for no reason other than to spite the fans. Then when the show started to get the criticism it legitimately deserved, they do what Disney has been doing for years now, attack the fan base calling them racists and misogynistic. This show was also one of the worst written series I have ever seen. This was the most expensive amateur fan fiction ever made meant to spit in the face of the legacy it was drawn from.
to help out fans check out Award winning "For the Empire" made by Star Wars fans here on RUclips. It's a great parody done by just a few people that love Star Wars. And done quite well too I might add. Promise it will put a smile on your face.
It sure does seem deliberate the final product with the Acolyte. All at a reasonable $6,000 a second (yes second, not minute). It has to be the most expensive series created. Then not watched. Headland said "It is Star Wars by Lesbians for Lesbians". But not even Lesbians watched the series. I didn't realize Lesbians were the number 1 group to order Disney+ in the first place.
What a waste of Carrie-Anne Moss. That is the biggest crime here.
I thought it was her! (During the scenes here in the video; didn't watch any of that show.)
Why did she do that? Does she need money or something? Gambling issues, maybe?
I''m sure she read the script before saying yes and banking the money without a care in the world.
She comes back in flashbacks and is a prominent side character.
Carrie, Lee Jung-jae (Squid Game), Dafne Keen, Manny Jacinto, and Dean-Charles Chapman.
She should have been The Acolyte. It wasn't like with the budget Disney couldn't afford her. The Acolyte works out to $6,000 a second per episode. Second, not minute. Then to get cancelled because nobody at Disney figured out they just wasted $180 million on a turd before completing the series? That's why you never finish a series, and have preview audiences watch the first episode or two before the final editing of those episodes, and completing the entire series. To cover what you screwed up in "editing" That's the beauty of the movie making world. Something Disney didn't do to save money? It doesn't add up. Except in people's offshore bank accounts.
This show should have been called "How to flush 180 millions dollars down the drain".
They knew this was bad, the kept delaying the release date, but they had to release it anyway, why? Because it's CONTENT, nothing else.
I love how its just expected for Disney to hire a bunch of women and queers, just to use them as patsies. Real classy from one of the most powerful corporations of Earth to use women and minorities that way. Feels like the 50s again.
This whole show feels like a first draft.
... written by an 8 year old
Of a Wattpad fanfiction.
The Acolyte probably was a first draft.
We owe the Star Wars Holiday Special an apology.
I watched the first episode, and when mechanic girl woke up and told her colleagues to mind their own business, I thought: 'Oow, this is gonna be a mystery of sorts in this show whether she is the killer or not. Maybe she sleep-walks, or is undercover, or she is cloned... could be an interesting show.' Not even end of the episode. 'It's my sister who didn´t die in a fire'.
It was the same for me! It was exactly like this! Or when we first got a glimpse of "Evil Sith antagonist" i thought; "Okay! Who is it? One of the Jedi? Is this the big mystery of the show?" And nope... it was the most boring answer possible. If Quimir is really supposed to be a former student of the same Master which Palps had... well... he wasn't really paying attention i guess... Imagine one of the Jedi would have been the real Sith hiding his motivations while pretending to be a jedi. Suddenly you have the plothole fixed, why he is so strong! If he is a master or something he knew every weakness of the others.
They had some good ideas... but every one of them were executed in the worst way possible, while every interesting question was answered within barely minutes.
That EDP audio sting while talking about the jedi taking children was diabolical 🤣
There's already Star Wars media about an assassin hunting down Jedi; it's called The Force Unleashed (2008) and did it way better, 15 years ago.
This show shouldn’t have been created🤦♂️
Well it just should have been A LOT better than it was, and focused more on the Sith, which it was originally pitched to do
Lucus should not have sold to Disney and trusted KK
@@luigimafia10201
Amen to that.
It's funny because at first was going to be a movie lol.😂
It should've sticked to original plan of being about the Sith in the shadows leading up to Plagueis and Palpatine, not whatever the fuck they did to canon
I still can't believe Star Wars used to be the biggest IP in the 70s and they managed to make 0/10 media minus Rogue One and Mandalorian for an entire decade. It's honestly unbelievable
Don't forget Andor
Clone Wars and Rebels are fantastic.
Ehh Star Wars was never good. You just have shit taste. Most of humanity does
Mandalorian season 1 and 2, Rogue One, Visions(the anime anthology one), and Andor are the only hits in a sea of misses. It might just be the worst fumble in media history
@@DiscoBallGaming Star Wars was never good. You only liked it as a child because you didn't know any better
I feel really REALLY bad for Lee Jung-jae. He learned English in four months for this show.
The fact that a rookie made this doesnt in any way excuse how bad it is.
Not when she got given $180m.
And she's done Doll House and the Heathers reboot series which got canned before release.
The passive protagonist has been an issue going way back with the disney sw shows, I might get flak but one of the reasons Mandalorian S2 wasn't as good for me as S1 is that Mando is like a videogame protagonist being sent or dragged into quests to advance the plot, and he just nods and goes along.
Remember: it's alright to enjoy acolyte, but that doesn't mean you're obligated to defend it. I love the transformers movies until age of extinction, and even I acknowledge that people deserve better; I never use my preference to justify why the movies should be good
Bruh I love episode II but it's shit. Sometimes we like bad things and that is okay hell yeah
well said.
Bingo
Getting worse ratings than the Holiday Special is quite an impressive feat.
"The Acolyte"'s score is exactly percent point higher, than that of "Battlefield Earth"
Plot Twist: the shoemakers love the Holiday Special and wanted to redeem it by creating something worse!!
It's insanely disingenuous to pretend that's legitimate. It has a worse rating than Madam Web! THAT IS NOT REAL. THATS REVIEW BOMBING. I'm not saying it's a 10/10, I'm not even saying it's a 7, I'd say it's like a 6/10, BUT IT'S NOT WORSE THAN MADAM WEB! It just isn't. I haven't met ANYONE who liked Madam Web.
@@JUnit41484 probably. My comment was not meant to be serious^^ personally I pay little to no attention to reviews. If I hear about a show/film I might look up a trailer and decide if I want to watch it. Only review bombing I see is in Boardgaming over on BGG, it's really dumb and wish people could just ... Be better. I don't know
@@JUnit41484 nobody cares for madam web, nobody had expectation, it doesnt affect the universe of movies its in. Acolyte is a fanfic level story in a beloved franchise, a worst story after other bad series, and its presenting an moment is star wars history that was lost since legends stoped beeing canon
Anakin's lightsaber should've turned red if THAT'S all it takes.
I think it's direct contact with the crystal. I'm not saying it's not dumb but this is a reason.
The reason is very simple - crystal bleeding just wasnt a thing back in the days...the idea of this did not exist. To be clear i dont want to defend the show but to implement this and to show it was kinda cool
You are factually incorrect.
To be fair I think the reason given is that Anakin was always very conflicted, and thus had difficulty bleeding his crystal, even when he was consciously focusing on trying to bleed the crystal.
@@tewl217 Bleeding kyber crystals? What, is this just another thing Disney made up after buying it from George?
Andor is by far the only quality show they've been able to churn out.
Thank you
Wrong. Mandor is crap. "Oh, look, we made the Rebels - unambiguously good guys - morally grey! Whoopee!"
@@Ragitsu the world building is amazingly good. Why are you stuck on how they've portrayed a group, enjoy a good show for once and stop whining
@@patraprateek Because it violates the spirit of _Star Wars_ .
Leslye Headland should never touch anything Star Wars ever again.
Anything tv show or movie related, for that matter. And certainly no writing novels.
Maybe some true crime podcast aired on a remote radio station somewhere in northern Alaska?
@@lonestarr1490 She is not a terrible showrunner. She has some good credit, mainly thanks to Russian Doll, but she clearly lacked experience to run a SW series.
@@MatiZ815 After The Acolyte you have to wonder how much actual work she did for Russian Doll (which was decent enough).
The marketing has me believing this couldn’t be a bad show. The show proved otherwise.
That's the big issue, modern media is either propaganda or just plain gas lighting.. all lies
My favorite is the gaslighting every time they release a shit show. As if the audience can't make up their own minds if it's good or bad.
the writers not only forget what they have written episodes later.
they do it in the same episode.
its insane
A consequence of the 'and then' style of writing. Acolyte is overflowing with it.
the theory that some of disney's latest stuff is AI generated feels more and more plausible, this shit doesnt feel like it was written by a human with a brain
This show actually managed to make me appreciate the sequel trilogy a lot more now.
I just watched Titanic and it's crazy how in a film set in a chaotic disaster happening all around, the central characters are always making choices and pushing the story forward.
Jack and Rose constantly do meaningful stuff and it's incredibly engaging to watch. But even the secondary characters are never static or boring.
Theres this electrician in the lower decks who tries to repair a switch and gets electrocuted which then cuts power to the whole ship as it sinks, upping the horror even further.
Cameron didn't have to do that, but having cause and effect adds a level of tragedy you wouldn't get if the ship's power just went off by itself.
I recommend y'all to watch it with that in mind, I really appreciated those story beats throughout.
Maybe there's a video idea here Filmento? 😉
The worst thing about it was how boring it was.
Rated lower than even the Holiday Special. That really puts things into perspective, wow.
Back in the 1970s:
The Holiday Special the failure of one
In the 2000s:
The prequel trilogy the failure of two
Since 2015:
Disney Star Wars THE FAILURE OF MANY!!
Really wish Disney never bought Lucasfilm. Really wanted to give them a chance, but they fail nearly every single time. While some would have to put up with prequel trilogy hate, we wouldn’t have all these agenda’s and politics involved. Not to mention the EU could expand on the mysteries left open by other writers.
I'm gonna use this one lol
You forgot the generic Halloween witch cackle
Bro saved himself from HALF of this season, good job! 😆
If he had made it to the end, I feel like this might be one way he talked about the reveal about the floating jedi guy:
"Okay, cool, you've set up an interesting reason why he would off himself. But where's the emotional payoff for that knowledge? You can't go back in time and go 'Oh I see!' when he dies. Imagine if they had done some of the temple flashbacks *before* his death scene, teasing that he saw something so shocking and horrible that death was preferable to the memory. Now that gets you invested into the mystery! That's how you establish a mystery with some stakes!"
I haven't actually watched the video yet, but he makes a RUclips video rendering judgement for the show without actually watching the entire thing?
@@khora3845 Well, he's not really trying to review the series, he's critiquing how the show establishes its main ideas and characters. He points out that the premise of the show changes in the first few episodes. So he watched four episodes and gave up on the show. I thought it was a fair critique, but that's just me.
So then my comment is just a silly extrapolation on a particular character that he touched on. Trying to "speak in his voice". Don't take me too seriously. 😆
Yeah nah, sorry but you shouldn't be able to make a full on video trying to claim how anything is the worst in its franchise if you haven't watched the entire show. I knew there was a good reason I hadn't watched any videos here in a while, but seeing first hand acknowledgement that the channel is getting lazy proves I have nothing of value lost by never coming back to this shit.
@@afunkymonke He mostly stuck with the failure of the show to establish a premise, which can certainly be argued without watching the whole show.
Though I gotta say, it's an entirely valid point of view, for a person to say that a piece of media -- whether a movie, book, tv series, or whatever -- fails to capture their interest and they give up on it without finishing it. However, I DO agree that a reviewer should make it clear, "I made it to episode X". But Filmento does do that, so I'm not sure exactly where your frustration comes from. He covers the content that he saw.
You missed a big reason why this became the most hated show. The fact that the producers, directors and some actors were constantly gaslighting and blaming the fans themselves for their crappy show. I didnt like the Acolyte before that happened. But i hated it and LucasFilms afterwards
Yeah, Disney threw women and queers everywhere to the wolves with this one. I've never felt so much hate radiating from content creators and so many of them are blaming Diversity hires, when we're literally being used as patsies by a megacorp. As a queer person, it feels like I'm being used as a human shield.
Can't imagine how lesbians feel being represented by Harvey Weinsteins victim turned enabler.
I have a challenge for you: Pick ANY CHARACTER in the show, and try to figure out what they want, and see if they do anything to achieve a particular, identifiable goal. I can't find a single one.
Jediabetes wanted to eat some pies i guess
That one dude in the tavern wanted a drink and went straight to the bar to get it!
Venestra is the only one, and you don’t realize why until the last episode. I’m pretty sure everything with the coverups was all in an effort to make sure no one knew Qimir used to be her Padawan (and then I guess to make sure no one had a reason to check the records that would show it anyway)
The show is very “wait until the next episode to see if we’re actually competent writers”
Qimir wanted to train a worthy apprentice. That's why he send the evil twin to kill those Jedi. He decides to corrupt the normal twin after the evil twin stops wanting to be evil.
I honestly wouldn't believe the claim that this script underwent a few revisions, because it certainly doesn't show any signs of improvement, especially with how many more problems are present in the 2nd half of this show.
I appreciate this nuanced criticism because there are so many dudebros online who hated it from the moment a woman of color was cast as the protagonist and their grossness is just everywhere. I also think a lot of sexists were offended by the romance angle, which is really frustrating. But yeah, it's not good.
Yeah, people like that are infuriating.
I remember a review of „Napoleon”. The guy said some criticisms, and I mostly agreed with him.
And then he went on a tirade about how liberals are ruining history and movies. I was genuinely surprised, but after seeing his other videos, they were all the same. Legitimate points, blaming it all on liberals, and more suggestions about how to „improve” the movie.
have you though of making a video of Godzilla Minus One? could be one explaining how to do a human plot in a monster movie
Agrred
@TWDub nice
@TWDub In what video did he say that? I've been watching his videos for quite some time and I didn't hear him mention that movie.
The human plot in Godzilla Minus One was abysmal. A telenovela level of cringe characters doing cringe stuff and indulging in cringe dialogue. It reduced the movie to an exercise in endurance.
Your dp makes your question hilarious😅
I am at this point more excited about McDonald's announcing a new menu special than Disney Star Wars. And I do not eat at McDonald's 😂😂😂
I'm not going to say if you legitimately enjoyed the Acolyte you have mental problems, but if you legitimately enjoyed the Acolyte you have mental problems.
TLDR:The script is wasted on the level of actors they somehow managed to pull for this shitshow
It’s a bad show for many reasons. But I think the one thing about this show that genuinely upsets me is how they managed to pull people like Carrie-Anne Moss and Dafne Keen only to absolutely waste them in this D-tier script that reads like they just went with the first draft. Like here you have a legend of the genre and you kill her off in the first episode and then use her in a handful of flashback scenes. Then you also have one of the most talented actresses of her generation and you give her nothing to work with and then kill her off in a moment that is playing on emotions they haven’t earned out of the audience because no work was put into the character.
Totally agree with everything you said, but just fyi your tldr is written backwards. The script isn’t spoiled by the actors, the actors are spoiled by the script.
This is what happens when a committee using audience “metrics” has final creative control with a director who is probably being pulled in divergent directions by an over arching need to be “correct”.
Yeah. It's what happens every time you hire a corpo to do an artist's job. How much more will this happen until the stupid fucks directing this mobile pile of trash finally catch on that their decisions might be losing them money and fans?
Watching this breakdown I cannot understand if the author has even watched the movie.
Osha being a mechanic shows in so many scenes - when the jedi padawan is struggling with some technical issue on a ship and she immediately knows how to fix it. When she shows inherent familiarity with all the tools in every context these become relevant. She easily bypasses the elevator panel losing like no time at all and getting to Mae before the sith does, despite him using some sort of powers to move. The droid is a great multitool for her, yes, but it's shown countless times that she's perfectly capable without said droid.
Her being a former jedi is _central._ She understands how they operate. She knows the system from the inside. Also it is clear that she lost her connection to the Force because of her self-doubt after she left the Jedi Order. That's what the scene of her reaching out for the droid shows. That is why she is so excited when she comes to terms with some of her turmoil and can feel things through the Force again... Is "show, not tell" no longer a valid paradigm for you all? Does this need to be told explicitly to be understood?
The personalities of all the jedi are on display too. They're all suppressing their emotions, all making different excuses to why their actions are "fine".
Sol still thinks about Osha and the guilt haunts him, yet he says that he's "meditating on the past so he doesn't repeat it". He is shown as a kind and accepting teacher - when one of his students looks into the Force and sees raging fire, which would freak out _a lot_ of jedi tbf - it only gives him pause for a moment and he addresses the students _accepting_ that this is part of the Force, not trying to shun or push that perception out.
Yord is clearly full of himself and believes himself to be better than others because he made Jedi knight. He is lightsaber-happy and somewhat stuck up. He refers to Osha, _his former friend,_ as "civilian" when giving his briefing. He is trying to demonstrate that there is no connection and that he's better than her - because that is what the jedi teach is right. Yet their next interaction shows that this is not true and she still matters to him deep down.
Jecki is young, impressionable, a model student still trying to navigate what it means to be a jedi and not making sense of some of the contradictions yet. She is timid, yet the open and genuine interaction with Osha, which is so different to the kinds of interactions she's known in the Order, makes her open up and gain confidence.
I could go on.
IDK if you'll agree, but I believe it is fine when a character _doesn't_ have a specific motivation. A lot of people live out their lives that way. She had a dream - to become a Jedi - but lost it. She had a sister whom she loved - but she lost her, as well. All she's got is that _very important_ job on a random cargo ship. All she's got is her crew and her droid. Her motivation is to see tomorrow, together with the lot of them. She doesn't need to be on some revenge quest or a search for some grand treasure. She's a person. Not all people and not at all parts of their lives want something grand. Not all people and not at all parts of their lives _want something._ At all.
Whereas some other characters have amazingly articulated motivations. For example, the sith guy shows more motivation in why he does what he does that almost _any_ darksider in _any_ previous Star Wars movie. He is easy to grasp, to understand. The Jedi all have their own motivations. Maintaining their status quo. Convincing themselves to let go of guilt. Finding that Vergence thing to convince themselves what they did was justified. Covering up the apparent darksider sighting in order to maintain an aura that "there is no war in Ba Sing Se" and maintain political power.
"The Jedi in the show don't do anything to earn the value of being a Jedi" - that IS the whole point!.. They wear robes and are decent with their lighsablers but THAT IS IT! They are not ready for the realities of life. They have some experience and try to do what they believe is right but it backfires spectacularly.
I feel like the only 3 jedi in the movie truly worth the title are Sol, Inara and Sol's green friend whose name I do not remember. And they are FLAWED. They are all flawed. Without an overwhelming evil force for them to face, the jedi are not great to have around. They wave around a lot of power without much regard to how it reflects on the world. The three I mention are worth the title because they already got burned. They are careful and attentive now. They haven't always been.
Having watched to the end, I realise that the author has not even gotten beyond the 50% mark of the show. The short show with only 8 episodes 30-45 minutes each.
Truly, I cannot believe this assessment is fair for that very reason.
The author's main argument is that "the relationships are shallow and the events are not moved by the main characters".
Yet he doesn't take the time to watch until the relationships are fleshed out and until the driving role of the main characters becomes clear.
NGL, kind of a waste of time watching the review and typing this comment because I believed it would all go somewhere. I hoped I would find an answer to why people hate this show so much. Instead I found a review by a guy who only wants to see stories with a strong driving main character (which, mind you, often feel forced).
Good read, ima give it a chance
He hated the show before he even watched it because he considers it woke politics. That's all it is. That's what all the hate for this show is about.
This is spot on. I was really bummed by all the wasted potential of the show. I literally stopped watching half way through because I was so bored. If it wasn’t for Manny Jacinto and his epic hotness, I would’ve never came back to it.
I was waiting for this. Most critical videos have the emotions of a disappointed Star Wars fan. Need a 3rd party perspective to show us we ain’t crazy when the studio puts out fan hate. Velma was a hate watch show, but at least it still had some entertainment value. The Acolyte feels like when you go to a nice restaurant, and everything is so bad, you leave hungry and still gotta pay a crazy check.
It will no more torture us, good riddance. Hopefully it ruins the careers of everyone who wanted to shit on the fans rather than be honest and do good work rather than activism.
Thanks, Filmento, if you maybe could answer this: One theme (the main one?) in the show is "the power of one, the power of two, the power of many". I therefore expected the two girls to work together, and to be strong in the force (power of two), but only if they stay with each other: No. Okay, then I expected the witches to be stronger together than the Jedi (the power of many), but: No. And then the series ends with the girls switching sides basically (one is brain-wiped and the other one trains to be Sith). --> I think it's a total lost of plot and theme at all. Where is the power of many? What's even the point? The witches are stupidly incompetent and blabbering nonsense. Even the show creator can't explain what exactly happens with smoke clouds etc.
The local cable company has now dropped “The Acolyte” from its Disney+ advertising including only “Shogun” & “The Bear” as “now streaming!”
It seems anything “Star Wars” or “Marvel” is no longer a selling feature for DISNEY+! How utterly sad ☹️!!!
It's sad that Jedi's went from being so mysterious and cool, to being the most neutered bland characters with the most anemic personalities. That really goes for all of Star Wars really.
That's the Jedi for you pal. Hence why I chose the sith...as plaguies said "why are the sith more powerful than the Jedi? Because we are not afraid to feel...from the heights of transcend joy ....To the depths of darkness and despair"
Even if the show runner is terrible.... You would think the writers would step in and help her.... But it seems she hired amateur unprofessional diverse hires who all have never ever seen a single Star Wars. And this is what you end up with when there is no one experienced in the room!
I tried to really give this show the benefit of the doubt. Me & the bros hung in there week to week, picking the show apart, just to be royally pissed by the finale 😂 I hope they don’t make a season 2. I tried so hard to be optimistic
Classic Disney literally gave more character to a vulture in 5 minutes than modern Disney accomplishes for an entire seasons of fucking Jedi and serial killers.
I know you stopped watching the show, but you should do a part 2 to deconstruct the narrative. It may be abysmal, but it’s refreshing to see a review that intelligently explains why the characters didn't work, rather than just pointing out how it doesn't fit with Star Wars canon like other reviews do.
He sort of did that here but briefly. Yeah, would be nice to see a more in-depth analysis.
Where are these reviews that just point out it doesn't fit with Star Wars canon?
You can't analyze everything wrong in just 18 min. People were making videos pointing out everything wrong about the episodes that were longer than the episodes. Some more to touch on are:
-Lack of acting: Osha/Mae have no emotion and just stare blankly. The good actors are dragged down to just bad levels. People with wooden acting are allowed to shine.
-The plot was shoved along. Osha is dragged between scenes, she was often forced, arrested, or knocked out to get her to the next scene. Other characters were too, it wasn't limited to her. Characters make stupid decisions all the time just to move the plot along. Motivations flip like a coin with no real reason and no impact from other characters. Ships fly at the speed of plot concenience. We have a scene where Sol flies to the one planet. In that time, another ship arrives from Corescant, they land, find the bodies and investigate, go back to the ship, fly back to Corescant, have a bunch of meetings, then Sol arrives at his destination. He turns on his beacon, and the Jedi leave Corescant and get to the planet in like 30 minutes. So what the writers are trying to pass off is that its faster to fly from A to B to C (with plenty of long breaks inbetween) than it is to fly from A to C. This happens numerous times. Its all because they can't glide the plot along with good writing or logic, so they need to shove it along because it would just die otherwise.
-Then there is the bad CGI, bad fight scenes, things that don't make sense like camp fires in space or rocks catching fire and turning into an inferno with ease.
The show was bad from the ground up and from start to finish. There was really nothing good about the show.
How to make the most hated show on tv: make a terrible, terrible show and then slap the Star Wars corpse on it.
What bothers me the most is Jedi have been painted as very powerful people but the show just made them shallow and even incompetent. As we know, Jedi train from a very young age and their entire upbringing is training and classes and we have see he result of them, from previous star wars works, being highly skilled, disciplined, knowledgeable, and having wisdom. And I stress highly trained since its been said using the force is difficult to use and have a rather calm and no attachment to master. I didnt see any of this at all from the Jedi, they seemed comparable to me and general people I hang out and work with, making the same mistakes and selfish and arrogant and things I have done. Jedi are not that, they are disciplined and have the organized structure to avoid those problem, without those in place one could turn to the dark side- what comes with great power comes great responsibility. I guess a comparable example is Jedi are the popular culture depiction of Shaiolin Monks in Tibet. And thats before have these magic powers like foresight and clairvoyance should mitigate mistakes and problems. The fault was just being downright incompetent but the fault should have been them being so prideful and self assured as wielders of the Force that their arrogance blinded them to make mistakes. We didnt see it as much as I liked but the downfall of the Jedi in the prequel movies was just that. I have seen historians lectures of why this group or that group lost the battle or fell and many of them say said something similar to "they lost because they were so sure they couldnt lose".
Even the the shoalin monks who are highly trained and disciplined from a young age, you will catch them watching Pornhub on their phone in the monestry, 😂 we the audience don't want to see the character outside their role, even a Sith Lord has to sleep, eat, shit😂
that scene where master squid games stops her from falling with the force really sticks with me.
I really wanted someone to edit that into the luke i am your father of episode 5, where luke jumps to near certain death to avoid Vader.
and Vader just reaches out his hand and nope catches him with the force.
Witness the power of many, the many who HATE acolyte that it got cancelled.
You should do andor to compare how you can take all the franchise aspects of Star Wars and use them effectively and even take them farther than we’ve seen before. Great videos and we all really appreciate your videos and the work you do!
Specifically as a film student and want to be screenplay writer your videos really bring a lot of value in how I approach writing things and structuring the characters of the script. Thank you
I second that. Would be nice to see an analysis of a GOOD SW show 🙂
Acolyte wasn’t “fumbled”. It was garbage tier fan fic from its inception and you have Lesley Headland’s own word for that.
You got to the 4th episode before giving up? Lol! I made it to the 2nd. Your will is stronger than mine.
I made it to the end just to see how bad it is....
You do NOT want to see the end....
@@juliegrine2875 Now I feel Like Peter Griffon staring at that sign that says "Do not press this button"
To Be Fair, he's doing this for his job.
If the jedi don't want to live, you think he'd already think of a way or atleast try to kill himself right? What do you mean he don't know what poison is?