Everything is so much more expensive right now. In 2022, I wouldn't consider these cameras unless you can get a really good price. Their technology is 6 years old currently, and they are not receiving any additional firmware updates. Have a look at the JVC GY500 and the Panasonic CX350. The JVC has a big sale on the GY500 about 3 times a year from what I have seen. They both have bigger and much newer sensors than the HCX1. Although, if you will be recording chamber music, I would consider an APSC size sensor or higher. Depending on your budget, considering it's around 2K to 2500USD based on the cameras you are looking at, you could get some great mirrorless cameras that will do wonderful I low light. Here are some thoughts: the A73. It's a couple of years old, but the sensor is full frame, the image stabilization is good, the autofocus is amazing, and the image quality is excellent even considering it's an 8Bit sensor. You can get it and a sigma 24-70 f2.8 lens for around 2500 The Panasonic S5: amazing camera just like the Sony, but you get 10bit internal video, with Apple Pro Res raw recording at 5.9K full frame out to the Ninja V recorder. I have it and the quality is more than anyone really needs. I use that quality for commercial projects that air on TV, but often I will use 200 Mbps 10bit video without any issues either. The stabilization is excellent (better than the Sony), but the autofocus isn't as good as the Sony A73. In fact, it's not great at all unless you know about manual focus. The Sony almost seems like magic in comparison. You can find the Panasonic S5 on sale for 1600 body only, pick up a sigma 24-70 f2.8 and you'll be around 2300. Grab a ninja V external recorder if you need it, and for 2800 you have a serious filmmaking kit. The sleeper/unexpected option is the Fujifilm XT3 with the new 18-80 F4 lens, and maybe a prime. The XT3 is a great camera with autofocus better than the Panasonic and image quality very good, but not as good as low light as the other mentioned here. But that has to do with the XT3 being a smaller sensor than the Sony and Panasonic S5, but larger than the camcorders mentioned here. Between the two, it would be a hard choice. You really need to know what you want to do and want you need. So.. good luck.
I am considering UX180 for my little livestream business next year. I don't have the budget yet but, really considering UX180 for the secondhand budget
Hello Robert! Can you tell me what settings do you use on hc x1. Especially: Gamma mode - Matrix - Chroma phase Black gamma. And do you set color correction ?
Hi! Thanks for the video! I bought the camera like 6 months ago, and I´m really happy with it, it rocks for my work (short documentaries, street journalist videos and so on). I wanted to ask you one thing. Do you think that can we get better image quality to post process with Atomos ninja or some external recorder? We can´t get 10bit, but 4:2:2 to make color grade more efficient- Also, do you think that worth it? Have you used it? Thanks a lot
Hey, that's a good question. I haven't tested this so I checked the manual. It looks like the HDMI out is 8bit 4:2:0 in most modes and 4:2:2 in 4k 50/60 only. I may be completely wrong, so please make sure to check your manual as well. About the grading.. unfortunately, no. I don't think recording in 4:2:2 would help this camera. I seem to do similar activities as you with this camera. My experience shows me that the best post grading experience is getting it right in the camera the first time. The sensor seems to have a very limited dynamic range. I suspect 10-11 stops, but this hasn't been tested. It's just what it feels like to me. Grading is further compounded by white balance. If that's not perfect you will have an even harder time. So, where the Ninja, or an external monitor helped me, and maybe you too, Is with the exposure tools on such devices. Getting and using a monitor with false colors was a major stepping stone in my videography, especially outdoor. Next would be a good calibration card. Good news is that the camera white balance is very accurate on auto or manual. I use either about half of the time. Good exposure in the first place paired with proper white balance will be a bigger help in post production grading than the extra chroma subsampling of the 4:2:2 output, assuming it can do that in the mode you want to use. I hope this helps.
@@RobertHamm Hi! Thank you very much for your answer! As far as I know, and according with Barry´s Green Book about UX series cameras, the HDMI output is 4:2:2 8 bit EXCEPT UHD 59.94/60p. In all other formats is 4:2:2. But i think you are right, this is not gonna make a huge difference on this camera, as long as it can´t output 10 bit; that would be another story. And yes, the best way is to record as good as possible, becouse after six months, my experience is that you can´t make strong color grade. Maybe with atomos and Pro Res files we get faster edition in Davinci Resolve than with the h.264 files from internal records, but I don´t know if I want to pay so much for Atomos, whe we have the Feelworld cheaper monitors... Thanks!
Hello Al, although the LCD screen is useless outdoors, it's great in every other lighting condition. I use an AndyCine Lut6 or a feelworld high nit monitor (I forget the model number, but it's the non SDI 2200 nit one). I prefer the AndyCine Lut 6. But, a word of consideration. You may want to think about the JVC Gy-hc500u. That camera is a direct competitor to the Panasonic Cx350 and it has some additional features. Compared to the HXx1, I would not spend the money on it today. Had I known more when I bought mine I would have bought a different camera, or at least considered other options. I bought just a little before the new 10bit sensors came out. That was a couple years ago. Had I looked around more. I would have known. The Hcx1 is a great camcorder, but you may want to consider the JVC. It's 2899 at adorama and a used one can be had in excellent condition for around $2200. To get 4k60 you will need an expensive SSD adapter and then an SSD. But you will unlock apple protest codecs and others. If you don't need that, then you can get 422 10bit at 150Mbps straight onto an SD card. It might be worth a look. Cheers.
@@RobertHamm thank you so much for your thoughtful reply. I actually started out as a youngster on JVC - their KY series dockable eng cameras and have mostly stuck with JVC through the years - GY series or if not Sony Beta SP, etc. What are these antiques I speak of?! Exactly. I'm only now (please don't judge me 😆) stepping away from analogue and dvc/dvcam pro equipment that was worth the price of a house then and now couldn't give the stuff away. Now wanting to be absolutely independent I have to step up into the scary world of, ugh, dig..ugggghh...digital.... But I realise quickly that I'll actually be able to be independent BECAUSE of new 'solid state' digital technology, etc simply due to the cost. When working with cameras worth $25,000 without even a lense or a mic and $30,000 physical tape VTRs or SX digi, etc. I'd have trouble buying the port just to read the cards for PC editing let alone any hardware, lol. I really appreciate your help, it has been invaluable mate and I'd love to let you know how I get on. Thanks again mate!!
Thank you so much for the very thorough comparisons. Have you had any experience with the Pan. CX350? If so, what are your overall thoughts. Thanks again.
I have been considering the 350 for a while. The updated sensor and other specs, as well as streaming, make it a promising package. JVC is the main competition with the GY500 camera. You can get that camera at a good discount over the 350, but some video features of the 500 require a special memory tray to unlock. It's a toss up. If you need all in one and 1" sensor will do the job, the CX350 of probably the better choice.
Robert, in a future video can you go over your tripod and audio setup? I'd be curious to see your thoughts on what to look for in a video tripod and accessory arms/equipment you recommend.
Hello Robert, Wondering how the Panasonic X2000 fairs against your HCX1/UX180. I know the X2000 has a smaller sensor. Would be a huge difference? I like how compact the X2000 is. I'm torn between the two. 🤔Going to start a low budget Documentary. Which would you recommend?
First off, if I can help you save some money it would be this advice: the 1500 and the top handle generally come in about $200 less than the 2000. So, unless you need the SDI port that you get with the 2000, then save the money and buy them separately. There is no difference betwee the 1500, 2000, and CX10 except for the video out options. All sensor, button, live streaming and codec (except for the CX10 having P2) are all the same. As far as the 2000 (1500 or cx10) compared to the ux180 and HCx1.. get the x1500 series. 10 bit and better dynamic range. You could stop looking at those specs, however 200Mbps 10bit at 420 and 150 Mbps 10bit 422 internal are leaps and bounds over the older codecs. The smaller sensor isn't great at getting a lot of blurry backgrounds, bit it can be done if thou plan your shot. For run and gun, it's much better all the way. Just turn on auto. I can't believe I'm saying that, but the little x1500 camera is amazing when you just let it do it's thing. You can of course use it manually if you want a specific look or need something that would benefit from setting it up manually. You will loose face detect auto focus, though. I usually use mine on a Crane 3 with a remote for focus and zoom. Works like a charm. This allows me to put it on a nice monopod and get some crane and faux dolly shots. It really works well. I wouldn't even consider the older cameras... But if you were asking !e what to buy.. I would suggest a used JVC 500u. You can get them for about 2300 used and you get all the large sensor goodness. Apple pro res with an optional ssd caddy and ssd, and all the great 10 bit 422 chroma options. Also. It's in a full size package with a 20x lens. If I had to do it over. That's what I would do. ... But... One last thing to flip your lid... What not just get the Panasonic S5 with the 20-60 lens. It's a fantastic option with all the 422 10 bit 200mbps recording internally up to 60fps AND can output 5.9k Pro Res Raw to the Ninja V (if you ever want to step up your videos). It's all full frame on a beautiful sensor which gives you the ability to shoot stills or video. And it's only 1997 for the camera and the lens or 1699 for the body only. You could do yourself a favor and pick up a used Panasonic 24-105 f4 lens at 400 off MSRP from adorama and have yourself a nice kit for just a little more than the JVC or only about $500 more than the x2000... Just a thought. Let me know what you do. Good luck.
Wow, I really appreciate your lengthy reply full of food for thought. In fact, I do have the XT-3, which I got for its video capabilities. I had fallen in love with Fuji for starting on still photography (for pleasure) after some years of video (which usually means audio too). I got the XT-20 after the price went down, and love it for having in my bag always. It taught me to appreciate prime lenses and third-party manual-only lenses. So I went with Fujifilm to be able to swap lenses. But the XT-3 doesn't have IBIS. So then I got the XS-10 (with all its buttons [or lack thereof] I hate) and a 16-80 lens as a pretty good kit. So I have used all of these Fujifilm cameras in the chamber music setting. However, I like (need) to have a camera that can get through a sonata without reloading anything or even having to press record a gain. It allows me to have peace of mind that I have everything on tape, and of course helps in the synchronization afterwards. But the aging (aged) XF200 is just too different. I will definitely look into the full-frame cameras you are suggesting. I have to say that when I saw you hold the HCX1 it looked huge, and that is not the road I want to go down, as I have to be mobile and agile. I have the tripod that already weighs me down. I am located in Italy, and do a festival every year where I have to get around Lucca on a clunker bike or on foot with sometimes 3 concerts a day. The other night I had to shoot a concert and both the XT-10 and the XT-3 overheated (thus my present quandary). The XF 200 was my saviour even with the low light, because I had gain (noisy of course, but better than nothing). There was NO light. I swapped the two Fujifilm cameras to cool one down, but it was definitely not ideal. Fortunately, it wasn't a high-pressure gig. I have a friend who rented an A73 for a concert and it couldn't make it because of overheating. I believe this happens at 4K, but that is why you get that particular camera. You suggested a couple of camcorders that are out of my price range, but I will give them consideration for sure, as I want to be happy, not regretful. Better to spend more and not be regretful. I see you have done a video for Austin's problem which is similar to mine (watching it now). Thanks again for your wisdom.
No problem. So, considering that, there are not many choices. Small, long zoom, long battery, good audio connections on board (but you could always use an adapter), and good low light... That's a tough package. The X1500 series really fits the bill on all but low light. Let me try and help there. I have recorded for the Cantabile Project for many years, (up until before Covid). The whole productions were piano and vocals from classic and modern composers. I don't claim to know anything over college humanities about musicians. However, I did a lot of recording for them on stage, in gardens, and parlors. The x1500 is not good in low light. A wedding reception usually has almost no light other than some sim house lights and a DJ light. Subjects move fast, it's dark, and the x1500 is no good in that situation without an on camera light. However, if you were videoing something on stage with stage lighting, then no problem because the subject is lit up even though the room isn't. If you were in a parlor where there is ample ambient light, or practical lights that you could bring to light the area, then no problem. If you are outside in an are that is dark but the surrounding structures are providing lighting to their area that spills into your scene, then you will probably be good to go. I use the x1500 and handle a lot all over. When I'm in lowlight outside, I look for scenes with spill light and ambient light that will suffice. I don't zoom, set my aperture to 1.8, and try not to send my gain too high. I notice a distinct difference passing 18Db of gain. If I need to use Near Video noise reducer in post production, then that's what I do. I made a video about the Panasonic x1500 at the pier at sunset. That may be helpful to you. Good luck.
@@RobertHamm Generally speaking, concert organizers try to light the stage area so the audience can see the musicians and so the musicians can see their music. The other night was exceptional for the utter lack of light. Your video at the pier was the first of your videos I saw about the x1500. I guess it is all about what you are going to be doing the most often. Your latest comment has made me feel like *maybe* the x1500 could work or at least be my best bet. I still have some time to think. Thanks so much.
Thank you so much for this video, Robert. I've been trying to decide between the camcorder and the mirrorless for a long time. How do you compare the Panasonic UX180 with the Canon XA55?
For low light a mirrorless camera, even micro 4/3, will have better low light performance. Although you won't have many of the conveniences of a camcorder. Like better audio interface, generally longer recording times and (not always) better codex's, and an integrated zoom of 13x or more. Those are not features to discount only for low light capability. However if you generally shoot in low light then those features won't matter so much. Between the 180/HCX1 and the Xa55.. why not the Panasonic X1500 or x2000?. This camera takes a little more consideration because it has a 1/2.5" sensor, which is even smaller than the 1" sensors in the other cameras... But 24x zoom 10bit 4:2:2 4k up to 60FPS h.265 and HEVC codecs up to 200Mbps.. it a compelling system. Great images, buttons are on my bad list, and low light can get muddy quickly if you don't know what you're doing, so just make sure to look it over before you make a decision. Between the 180 and the Xa55, I think I would choose the Panasonic. It's bigger with better handling and more zoom. The AF is better on the Canon, though, and it's a little smaller and compact. The screen is also better on the Canon. So there's that. Let me know why you decide. Please.
Hey Robert, thanks so much for your great videos. They're very informative and helpful, I appreciate it a lot. I have a question that I think you might be the gear person to answer. I am an independent filmmaker who works with the iPhone. I have started getting more work, and I want to expand my arsenal and get a better look than the iPhone - but I do have massive budget and crew limitations. So I need to stay a one-man crew. I've done of research about cameras lately and I've got a loose short term plan to eventually buy a GH5 and pair it with a panasonic camcorder that can have a similar look. My question for you is this: Which camcorder would you recommend for me? I shoot for long periods of time, so I want to prioritize battery, storage, usability, autofocus, weight, and of course look - something more textured and higher potential for beauty than the iPhone. I will be shooting music videos, events, BTS of photo shoots, and most importantly narrative short films and feature length documentary films. I know you might point me towards a mirrorless camera right off the bat, but I am interested in having both and I want to start with a camcorder so I can avoid changing the lenses for a little while, while I learn... I was about to buy the hc-x2000 last week until I saw your video about how bad the buttons are. So now I'm wondering about the hcx1. Let me know any thoughts at all. I really, really appreciate if you take a minute to respond. Thank you Robert!! -Austin
Thanks for your question. Here is your answer : ruclips.net/video/gvTBUJYF7ZE/видео.html Please follow up and let me know what you choose even if it's not a suggested item. Cheers.
@@RobertHamm wow Robert, I'm completely shocked and blown away by this. Thank you for taking the time and making such a great response. I'm about to watch it for a second time, and I'll write back to you on the new video. Thank you! Incredible
Hey Robert, Im having such a hard time choosing between the Panasonic UX180 and the Canon Vixia Gx10 ... Im leaning more towards the Gx10 because of the dual digic 6 and because i shoot live dj sets and stay still on a tripod for the most part. What are your thoughts on this?
Both cameras come from the same generational technology, so I would stay away from both and look at the newer 10bit options. However, between the two, I think you would have a better time with the HCX1/UX180 or the UX90 (assuming you didn't need as wide and don't need 60fps) there are a lot of reasons for that, but mostly the longer zoom. However, the Canon is smaller and doesn't zoom as far. Plus no XLR handle for robust audio input. So that's another reason for the Panasonic. If you can swing a look at the X1500 with top handle as a bundle, you would have an amazing modern settup. You will gain all kind of features but the biggest loss will be a 1/2" type sensor. I've found it to be great, and the 10bit is awesome. Low light is only a concern if you don't have spill light. Lights and lasers from a stage make the sensor size no problem. Trying to film a fimlu lit wedding reception will require an additional light which is included on the audio handle). It's around 1900ish, so check it out. I hate the buttons, and did several reviews of the x1500 Panasonic, but otherwise it's an amazing little camera. Cheers.
@@RobertHamm I ended up going with the gh6! Once I realized what that thing can do I totally forgot about these. My channel is Discover Two Eleven by the way incase you like techno music. Thank you!
Well absolutely. It's a great powerhouse choice. just get a nice wide prime for the low light, the iso boost works great but you will always have better video with more light in a club environment. Cheers.
Excellent in-depth video! I have the hc x2000 & cx350 and mostly do live streaming. I find the colour matching live for my cameras don’t match, I knew that already based on different sensors. I’ve seen HCx1 come up for sale in my local market at a decent price that’s why I’m here to learn about the camera. Still deciding to buy it, I like SDI that’s my only hesitation with this camera. Didn’t know there was -3 db for gain I find out doors the one inch sensor really over exposed as the x2000 great out doors on auto with a smaller sensor and 5 axis OIS out preforms the cx350 which has poor OIS. I rarely use the camcorders for filming I use mirrorless Sony A7s3 for videography/ cinematography. Thanks 🙏 appreciate the time you took to share the cameras pros and cons. Make it easer for us to decide.
Well, the HCX1 doesn't have SDI, you would need the UX180 if you wanted to stickw with Panasonic. Both share the older 8bit sensor, but are really your only option other than another CX350. As for color matching, I don't generally have an issue between the cameras, but I did set up each camera to match. The color porfiles are close between the 2000 and HCX1, but need some tweaking to get them right. Overexposure on the HCX1 is worse than the 2000, likely because of the different sensor generations. I always shoot manual anyway, so dial in the exposure as needed. The built in ND filters help a lot with this. If you are shooting a lot in auto!ode, you can set the Auto Exposure level on both the 2000 and 350. It works just like exposure compensation on a mirrorless camera. It's a good move to set that down by about a stop or to stui your needs. I shoot with the 2000 on Auto sometimes and find that helpful. Thanks for the comment. Cheers.
I was using an XM55 (cheap mic) and a dead cat that came tiwh it with some felt wrapped around the mic before I put the cat on. Cheap-cheap, but work well. After a couple of years I sis upgrade to a saramonic shotgun mic, the NV5x, another pretty inexpensive mic, but it has been a nice upgrade. The sound is better than the XM55, so give it a look if you are still looking.
Hi Robert ! After watching a lot of sample footage, including yours , I finally bought a UX180 , I got it last week and I am still getting to know it. I want to ask you what frame rate did you use in the footage in this video , did you shoot at 60p and edited it down to 30p or did you just shoot it at 30p and edit it at 30p ? Thank you !
Great question and one that will spark a debate with many different thoughts. Generally I shoot in 30 fps for everything except things I want to slow down, like action or dancing. Then I will shoot in as high of a frame rate that I have available on that device. Most of the time that is 60fps 4K. I always use a 24p timeline for my edits and export. This gives me some slow motion options with the 60fps footage and allows me to choose to use the 30p footage for whatever I need. I use 30p as a catch all. If I need to smooth out someone walking. Then I can get 80% slow motion and it works. If I forget to switch to 24p for all talking head shots, then the 30p footage looks more normal than 60p footage on a 24p timeline. If I can change to 24p, I will. If I'm unsure, I'll use 30p. The video you watched was recorded in 4k 24p and edited on a 1080 24p timeline. Cheers.
@@RobertHamm I appreciate your detailed answer Robert ! This is my first 24p capable camera , but since I live in Spain, and this is a 50hz region, I don't know if I am going to notice the difference between 24p and our regular 25p , which is what I 've used always to avoid flickering . * I asked the question because my previous camera only had interlaced video , and the footage seemed more fluid than the UX180 at 25p , and I was considering using interlaced video or 50fps to have more options before rendering at 25p. I think I'llhave to put my mad scientist coat on and do some experiments. * PS : There some magic to converting between 30p to 24p and viceversa ,I´ve always noticed american tv shows have a very particular look , I guess it has to do with all those conversions plus the additional conversion to PAL. Thank you again !
it would be very helpful if the next time tutorial about the menu of the HC-X1. The camera is very good, but the menu is not structured intuitively.Thanks
Thanks so much for sharing this video. We have the same camera as you and it's great. Just a question what is the name of the cover that you use in the integrate microphone of the camera ( in the front) mind you share the link plz? Thanks so much in advance
Hi. I use the Movo wind screen. It works and looks great. There are several different styles including a white hair dead cat. I think this one works better. Here's the link: amzn.to/3aKZb9G
Thanks so much for your video I use this camera with out edu set up in a studio, with atem mini extreme pro iso , have you used it as a webcam similar to my set up, was wondering if you have used it this way ? And have you been able to get the auto zoom through the wifi app or if it works with atem zoom ?
Surprised this wasn't mentioned in the video or the comments...now that it's over a year since you posted this, have you had any issues with the jog dial ceasing to function when turned? We have two of these cameras (UX180 version) we use about 80%/20% for tripod vs run and gun use typically several times a week for 1-3 hours per outing. They are going on 5 years of use now, and on the camera we use most (has a shotgun mic attached full time, so we tend to grab it first) the jog dial will respond to a click, but not to turning. This is obviously problematic, as it's the only way to directly change the shutter on this camera. As I Googled for info on this problem, I found many others with the same issue of the jog dial malfunction. Seems to be an issue with the hardware and not an issue of dust or debris entry that would often occur in a jog dial type wheel, as the only remedy offered to anyone from Panasonic is to replace the jog dial. One would think that shutter could still be adjusted via the touch screen, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I have worked around it by pushing the shutter *button* to temporarily switch to auto shutter and then adjust my iris ring until the camera auto-adjusts the shutter to my desired speed and then clicked off the auto shutter so it stays where it's at...then put my iris where I actually want it. Inconvenient for sure. Curious if that's something they've fixed with the "new" model under a different name or if it's still an issue for anyone.
This is a great comment. Thanks for sharing. No. I have not experienced this with any of my Panasonic Camcorders or cameras. I don't think it's surprising for me not to talk about it in the video because I haven't even experienced it. If you want to see a video where I talk about my dislike of the buttons, check out my latest x1500, 2000 CX10 video. So, had I experienced it, I would have mentioned it. I'm very happy with the Camera. Dynamic range is a big consideration with this camera, but other than that, I love it. Cheers.
@@RobertHamm Surprised it wasn't mentioned in one of the two places I meant...didn't expect you to mention an issue you've never had. :) Other than that one issue, we have had zero troubles with the cameras. That being said, it's a pretty major issue not being able to navigate menus or set shutter speed easily if/when it happens. Given the age of our units, I'm looking at replacement options. The feature set of these was an obvious plus when we bought them, but our main filter for picking cameras was whether or not they have any wireless capability. We film in high security areas where any wireless connectivity is not allowed. The UX180 at the time was honestly the only camera of this good of a feature set to have it as an option instead of including it, so that's what we went with. Fast forward to now, and the HC-X1 and CX350 are the only two cameras my B&H rep has found without wireless built in. Given our UX180 jog dial issue, I'm hesitant to replace it with the "same" camera. The CX350 has a jog dial as well, but looks like it may be different a different part, but without having my hands on one I can't be sure. No matter what we end up replacing with, I will likely take on the daunting task of replacing the jog dial(s) whenever we get replacement cameras. I've watched a video on doing the job and it involves practically disassembling the entire camera.
HELP HELP HELP? 🙏🏼 please? I just purchased the at-ux180 and I love everything about it but… I can’t get it to zoom past 176mm. Im wanting it to get to the 480mm but can’t figure out how to in the menu setting? Thanks
Hello. It's a 1" sensor. You won't see 480 on the display because that is the 35mm equivelant. The Lens Focal Length is from 8.8 to 176mm (35mm Equivalent Focal Length: 24 to 480mm). So when you are at 176mm you are at an equivelant field of view on 35mm to 480mm. Maybe you didn't understand the 1" sensor fromat before you bought the camera, but everyything is fine. It's just comfusing sometimes. It's also clearly marked on the box and panasonic's site that the 480mm is what you would get if you were shooting a full frame camera with an equivelant zoom. Cheers.
@@RobertHamm Well that makes a lot of sense. Thank you so much! I really do appreciate you reaching back out. If I can trouble for one more thing. I notice when I put my fisheye on the front. Idk if I doing something wrong, but every time I got to try and use my opteka fish on my ux180 it’s blurry.. I even try using manual focus and pulling focus but nothing cleans up? What am I doing wrong. Please help?? I’ll throw the same fishery’s on my 28-75mm tamron lens when on my Sony a7s3 and looks really clear. 🤔 Idk.. maybe there’s a setting That needs turned off or on with the ux180? Thanks again Rob!
Nice video thank you! I like the UX180 enough I bought a 2nd one but the low res, poor color, shiny LCD irritates me a lot. And so does the limited processing it has. The wide lens, 20X zoom and UHD 60p make it a good camera though.
I like the camera. The LCD screen sucks, though. I agree. But everything else is good. I use a field monitor and call it good. Thanks for your comment.
Perfect video. Thank you! I just want to add a question - can this camera display the clip number/clip name in recording mode? I think DVX200 can - after pressing rec-button, it shows you the clip name for few seconds. It sounds trivial but I really need it in my work :) Thanks
best video I also have seen about this camera and I have watched a lot in the past. I was surprised this camera doesn't have auto iso? I have the panasonic DVX200 and that has auto iso. For me that's a very important feature to have. The canon C100 also doesn't have auto iso.
It does have auto gain/iso. I don't use it often. In the video I was saying that I would have liked to have had an exposure compensation function, like most of their camcorders. That could have been helpful controlling the exposure withing a certain range of variables. Instead. This camera has an iris compensation function. It works the same, but only on the iris.
I use the ux-180 and really regretted purchasing it, until I met someone who told me don't get hung up on all your fancy equipment just focus on the story in front of you. Never worried about it again.
I filmed this with a HCx1 ( and many others ) a few moons ago hand held ruclips.net/video/3XFgDiy5Tq0/видео.html sold the camera ...but might buy another one
simple for me, a video camera or a photo camera?? now days an iPhone can record 4k, but I would NEVER go to do my job recording with an iPhone, even if the iPhone records better quality than my main camera, bottom line everything has it's price, and there's a reason for it.
Stick with the review of the video camera and quit jumping around proving you know something. Very irritating to watch your videos, I want to see the features of this camera NOT anything about 35mm digital cameras. Thats why I decided to watch your video in the first place.
Yeah, I still don't think SLRs are really video cameras. But, of course, thousands of people (and manufacturers) are proving me wrong. But SLRs don't handle like a video camera does. And they need too much attached, and cumbersome junk that's simply annoying!
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It’s 2022 and I am seriously considering this camera. You described it well. The good, the bad, and the ugly. Thank you.
Everything is so much more expensive right now. In 2022, I wouldn't consider these cameras unless you can get a really good price. Their technology is 6 years old currently, and they are not receiving any additional firmware updates.
Have a look at the JVC GY500 and the Panasonic CX350. The JVC has a big sale on the GY500 about 3 times a year from what I have seen. They both have bigger and much newer sensors than the HCX1.
Although, if you will be recording chamber music, I would consider an APSC size sensor or higher. Depending on your budget, considering it's around 2K to 2500USD based on the cameras you are looking at, you could get some great mirrorless cameras that will do wonderful I low light.
Here are some thoughts:
the A73. It's a couple of years old, but the sensor is full frame, the image stabilization is good, the autofocus is amazing, and the image quality is excellent even considering it's an 8Bit sensor. You can get it and a sigma 24-70 f2.8 lens for around 2500
The Panasonic S5: amazing camera just like the Sony, but you get 10bit internal video, with Apple Pro Res raw recording at 5.9K full frame out to the Ninja V recorder. I have it and the quality is more than anyone really needs. I use that quality for commercial projects that air on TV, but often I will use 200 Mbps 10bit video without any issues either. The stabilization is excellent (better than the Sony), but the autofocus isn't as good as the Sony A73. In fact, it's not great at all unless you know about manual focus. The Sony almost seems like magic in comparison. You can find the Panasonic S5 on sale for 1600 body only, pick up a sigma 24-70 f2.8 and you'll be around 2300. Grab a ninja V external recorder if you need it, and for 2800 you have a serious filmmaking kit.
The sleeper/unexpected option is the Fujifilm XT3 with the new 18-80 F4 lens, and maybe a prime. The XT3 is a great camera with autofocus better than the Panasonic and image quality very good, but not as good as low light as the other mentioned here. But that has to do with the XT3 being a smaller sensor than the Sony and Panasonic S5, but larger than the camcorders mentioned here.
Between the two, it would be a hard choice. You really need to know what you want to do and want you need. So.. good luck.
I am considering UX180 for my little livestream business next year. I don't have the budget yet but, really considering UX180 for the secondhand budget
The best video I've ever found about this camera. Great job!
Thanks.
Hello Robert! Can you tell me what settings do you use on hc x1. Especially: Gamma mode -
Matrix -
Chroma phase
Black gamma. And do you set color correction ?
19:29 - but if you turn the screen the other way to the one who is being filmed - most cameras then allow you to use the viewfinder. Not in this case?
Not on this generation of camcorder. It's either one or the other. In the new models, yes. It can do both at the same time.
Hi! Thanks for the video! I bought the camera like 6 months ago, and I´m really happy with it, it rocks for my work (short documentaries, street journalist videos and so on). I wanted to ask you one thing. Do you think that can we get better image quality to post process with Atomos ninja or some external recorder? We can´t get 10bit, but 4:2:2 to make color grade more efficient- Also, do you think that worth it? Have you used it? Thanks a lot
Hey, that's a good question. I haven't tested this so I checked the manual. It looks like the HDMI out is 8bit 4:2:0 in most modes and 4:2:2 in 4k 50/60 only. I may be completely wrong, so please make sure to check your manual as well.
About the grading.. unfortunately, no. I don't think recording in 4:2:2 would help this camera. I seem to do similar activities as you with this camera. My experience shows me that the best post grading experience is getting it right in the camera the first time. The sensor seems to have a very limited dynamic range. I suspect 10-11 stops, but this hasn't been tested. It's just what it feels like to me. Grading is further compounded by white balance. If that's not perfect you will have an even harder time.
So, where the Ninja, or an external monitor helped me, and maybe you too, Is with the exposure tools on such devices. Getting and using a monitor with false colors was a major stepping stone in my videography, especially outdoor. Next would be a good calibration card. Good news is that the camera white balance is very accurate on auto or manual. I use either about half of the time.
Good exposure in the first place paired with proper white balance will be a bigger help in post production grading than the extra chroma subsampling of the 4:2:2 output, assuming it can do that in the mode you want to use.
I hope this helps.
@@RobertHamm Hi! Thank you very much for your answer! As far as I know, and according with Barry´s Green Book about UX series cameras, the HDMI output is 4:2:2 8 bit EXCEPT UHD 59.94/60p. In all other formats is 4:2:2. But i think you are right, this is not gonna make a huge difference on this camera, as long as it can´t output 10 bit; that would be another story. And yes, the best way is to record as good as possible, becouse after six months, my experience is that you can´t make strong color grade. Maybe with atomos and Pro Res files we get faster edition in Davinci Resolve than with the h.264 files from internal records, but I don´t know if I want to pay so much for Atomos, whe we have the Feelworld cheaper monitors... Thanks!
so beautiful cam ux 180 i m used ux 90 last 4 year so good for me ... 👍 thanks for ur most with more information to us
Hi Robert,
great video, helped me in my decision.
Can I ask what you use in place of the useless LCD screen and how do you edit?
Thanks!
Hello Al, although the LCD screen is useless outdoors, it's great in every other lighting condition. I use an AndyCine Lut6 or a feelworld high nit monitor (I forget the model number, but it's the non SDI 2200 nit one). I prefer the AndyCine Lut 6.
But, a word of consideration. You may want to think about the JVC Gy-hc500u. That camera is a direct competitor to the Panasonic Cx350 and it has some additional features. Compared to the HXx1, I would not spend the money on it today. Had I known more when I bought mine I would have bought a different camera, or at least considered other options. I bought just a little before the new 10bit sensors came out. That was a couple years ago. Had I looked around more. I would have known. The Hcx1 is a great camcorder, but you may want to consider the JVC. It's 2899 at adorama and a used one can be had in excellent condition for around $2200. To get 4k60 you will need an expensive SSD adapter and then an SSD. But you will unlock apple protest codecs and others. If you don't need that, then you can get 422 10bit at 150Mbps straight onto an SD card.
It might be worth a look.
Cheers.
@@RobertHamm thank you so much for your thoughtful reply.
I actually started out as a youngster on JVC - their KY series dockable eng cameras and have mostly stuck with JVC through the years - GY series or if not Sony Beta SP, etc.
What are these antiques I speak of?!
Exactly. I'm only now (please don't judge me 😆) stepping away from analogue and dvc/dvcam pro equipment that was worth the price of a house then and now couldn't give the stuff away.
Now wanting to be absolutely independent I have to step up into the scary world of, ugh, dig..ugggghh...digital....
But I realise quickly that I'll actually be able to be independent BECAUSE of new 'solid state' digital technology, etc simply due to the cost.
When working with cameras worth $25,000 without even a lense or a mic and $30,000 physical tape VTRs or SX digi, etc.
I'd have trouble buying the port just to read the cards for PC editing let alone any hardware, lol.
I really appreciate your help, it has been invaluable mate and I'd love to let you know how I get on.
Thanks again mate!!
Absolutely. Let me know how it goes. Good luck.
Thank you so much for the very thorough comparisons. Have you had any experience with the Pan. CX350? If so, what are your overall thoughts. Thanks again.
I have been considering the 350 for a while. The updated sensor and other specs, as well as streaming, make it a promising package. JVC is the main competition with the GY500 camera. You can get that camera at a good discount over the 350, but some video features of the 500 require a special memory tray to unlock. It's a toss up. If you need all in one and 1" sensor will do the job, the CX350 of probably the better choice.
Robert, in a future video can you go over your tripod and audio setup? I'd be curious to see your thoughts on what to look for in a video tripod and accessory arms/equipment you recommend.
I put a video about tripods up yesterday in response to this queston. Thanks for asking. Cheers.
Hello Robert, Wondering how the Panasonic X2000 fairs against your HCX1/UX180. I know the X2000 has a smaller sensor. Would be a huge difference? I like how compact the X2000 is. I'm torn between the two. 🤔Going to start a low budget Documentary. Which would you recommend?
First off, if I can help you save some money it would be this advice: the 1500 and the top handle generally come in about $200 less than the 2000. So, unless you need the SDI port that you get with the 2000, then save the money and buy them separately. There is no difference betwee the 1500, 2000, and CX10 except for the video out options. All sensor, button, live streaming and codec (except for the CX10 having P2) are all the same.
As far as the 2000 (1500 or cx10) compared to the ux180 and HCx1.. get the x1500 series. 10 bit and better dynamic range. You could stop looking at those specs, however 200Mbps 10bit at 420 and 150 Mbps 10bit 422 internal are leaps and bounds over the older codecs.
The smaller sensor isn't great at getting a lot of blurry backgrounds, bit it can be done if thou plan your shot. For run and gun, it's much better all the way. Just turn on auto. I can't believe I'm saying that, but the little x1500 camera is amazing when you just let it do it's thing. You can of course use it manually if you want a specific look or need something that would benefit from setting it up manually. You will loose face detect auto focus, though.
I usually use mine on a Crane 3 with a remote for focus and zoom. Works like a charm. This allows me to put it on a nice monopod and get some crane and faux dolly shots. It really works well.
I wouldn't even consider the older cameras...
But if you were asking !e what to buy.. I would suggest a used JVC 500u. You can get them for about 2300 used and you get all the large sensor goodness. Apple pro res with an optional ssd caddy and ssd, and all the great 10 bit 422 chroma options. Also. It's in a full size package with a 20x lens. If I had to do it over. That's what I would do.
... But... One last thing to flip your lid... What not just get the Panasonic S5 with the 20-60 lens. It's a fantastic option with all the 422 10 bit 200mbps recording internally up to 60fps AND can output 5.9k Pro Res Raw to the Ninja V (if you ever want to step up your videos). It's all full frame on a beautiful sensor which gives you the ability to shoot stills or video. And it's only 1997 for the camera and the lens or 1699 for the body only. You could do yourself a favor and pick up a used Panasonic 24-105 f4 lens at 400 off MSRP from adorama and have yourself a nice kit for just a little more than the JVC or only about $500 more than the x2000...
Just a thought. Let me know what you do. Good luck.
Wow, I really appreciate your lengthy reply full of food for thought. In fact, I do have the XT-3, which I got for its video capabilities. I had fallen in love with Fuji for starting on still photography (for pleasure) after some years of video (which usually means audio too). I got the XT-20 after the price went down, and love it for having in my bag always. It taught me to appreciate prime lenses and third-party manual-only lenses. So I went with Fujifilm to be able to swap lenses. But the XT-3 doesn't have IBIS. So then I got the XS-10 (with all its buttons [or lack thereof] I hate) and a 16-80 lens as a pretty good kit. So I have used all of these Fujifilm cameras in the chamber music setting. However, I like (need) to have a camera that can get through a sonata without reloading anything or even having to press record a gain. It allows me to have peace of mind that I have everything on tape, and of course helps in the synchronization afterwards. But the aging (aged) XF200 is just too different. I will definitely look into the full-frame cameras you are suggesting. I have to say that when I saw you hold the HCX1 it looked huge, and that is not the road I want to go down, as I have to be mobile and agile. I have the tripod that already weighs me down. I am located in Italy, and do a festival every year where I have to get around Lucca on a clunker bike or on foot with sometimes 3 concerts a day. The other night I had to shoot a concert and both the XT-10 and the XT-3 overheated (thus my present quandary). The XF 200 was my saviour even with the low light, because I had gain (noisy of course, but better than nothing). There was NO light. I swapped the two Fujifilm cameras to cool one down, but it was definitely not ideal. Fortunately, it wasn't a high-pressure gig. I have a friend who rented an A73 for a concert and it couldn't make it because of overheating. I believe this happens at 4K, but that is why you get that particular camera. You suggested a couple of camcorders that are out of my price range, but I will give them consideration for sure, as I want to be happy, not regretful. Better to spend more and not be regretful. I see you have done a video for Austin's problem which is similar to mine (watching it now). Thanks again for your wisdom.
No problem. So, considering that, there are not many choices. Small, long zoom, long battery, good audio connections on board (but you could always use an adapter), and good low light... That's a tough package. The X1500 series really fits the bill on all but low light.
Let me try and help there. I have recorded for the Cantabile Project for many years, (up until before Covid). The whole productions were piano and vocals from classic and modern composers. I don't claim to know anything over college humanities about musicians. However, I did a lot of recording for them on stage, in gardens, and parlors.
The x1500 is not good in low light. A wedding reception usually has almost no light other than some sim house lights and a DJ light. Subjects move fast, it's dark, and the x1500 is no good in that situation without an on camera light.
However, if you were videoing something on stage with stage lighting, then no problem because the subject is lit up even though the room isn't.
If you were in a parlor where there is ample ambient light, or practical lights that you could bring to light the area, then no problem.
If you are outside in an are that is dark but the surrounding structures are providing lighting to their area that spills into your scene, then you will probably be good to go.
I use the x1500 and handle a lot all over. When I'm in lowlight outside, I look for scenes with spill light and ambient light that will suffice. I don't zoom, set my aperture to 1.8, and try not to send my gain too high. I notice a distinct difference passing 18Db of gain. If I need to use Near Video noise reducer in post production, then that's what I do.
I made a video about the Panasonic x1500 at the pier at sunset. That may be helpful to you. Good luck.
@@RobertHamm Generally speaking, concert organizers try to light the stage area so the audience can see the musicians and so the musicians can see their music. The other night was exceptional for the utter lack of light. Your video at the pier was the first of your videos I saw about the x1500. I guess it is all about what you are going to be doing the most often. Your latest comment has made me feel like *maybe* the x1500 could work or at least be my best bet. I still have some time to think. Thanks so much.
You are welcome and good luck on your search.
Thank you so much for this video, Robert. I've been trying to decide between the camcorder and the mirrorless for a long time. How do you compare the Panasonic UX180 with the Canon XA55?
For low light a mirrorless camera, even micro 4/3, will have better low light performance. Although you won't have many of the conveniences of a camcorder. Like better audio interface, generally longer recording times and (not always) better codex's, and an integrated zoom of 13x or more. Those are not features to discount only for low light capability. However if you generally shoot in low light then those features won't matter so much.
Between the 180/HCX1 and the Xa55.. why not the Panasonic X1500 or x2000?. This camera takes a little more consideration because it has a 1/2.5" sensor, which is even smaller than the 1" sensors in the other cameras... But 24x zoom 10bit 4:2:2 4k up to 60FPS h.265 and HEVC codecs up to 200Mbps.. it a compelling system. Great images, buttons are on my bad list, and low light can get muddy quickly if you don't know what you're doing, so just make sure to look it over before you make a decision.
Between the 180 and the Xa55, I think I would choose the Panasonic. It's bigger with better handling and more zoom. The AF is better on the Canon, though, and it's a little smaller and compact. The screen is also better on the Canon. So there's that. Let me know why you decide. Please.
@@RobertHamm Thank you for such a great answer.
Hey Robert, thanks so much for your great videos. They're very informative and helpful, I appreciate it a lot. I have a question that I think you might be the gear person to answer. I am an independent filmmaker who works with the iPhone. I have started getting more work, and I want to expand my arsenal and get a better look than the iPhone - but I do have massive budget and crew limitations. So I need to stay a one-man crew. I've done of research about cameras lately and I've got a loose short term plan to eventually buy a GH5 and pair it with a panasonic camcorder that can have a similar look. My question for you is this:
Which camcorder would you recommend for me? I shoot for long periods of time, so I want to prioritize battery, storage, usability, autofocus, weight, and of course look - something more textured and higher potential for beauty than the iPhone. I will be shooting music videos, events, BTS of photo shoots, and most importantly narrative short films and feature length documentary films. I know you might point me towards a mirrorless camera right off the bat, but I am interested in having both and I want to start with a camcorder so I can avoid changing the lenses for a little while, while I learn...
I was about to buy the hc-x2000 last week until I saw your video about how bad the buttons are. So now I'm wondering about the hcx1. Let me know any thoughts at all. I really, really appreciate if you take a minute to respond. Thank you Robert!! -Austin
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Please follow up and let me know what you choose even if it's not a suggested item. Cheers.
@@RobertHamm wow Robert, I'm completely shocked and blown away by this. Thank you for taking the time and making such a great response. I'm about to watch it for a second time, and I'll write back to you on the new video. Thank you! Incredible
Hey Robert, Im having such a hard time choosing between the Panasonic UX180 and the Canon Vixia Gx10 ... Im leaning more towards the Gx10 because of the dual digic 6 and because i shoot live dj sets and stay still on a tripod for the most part. What are your thoughts on this?
Both cameras come from the same generational technology, so I would stay away from both and look at the newer 10bit options. However, between the two, I think you would have a better time with the HCX1/UX180 or the UX90 (assuming you didn't need as wide and don't need 60fps) there are a lot of reasons for that, but mostly the longer zoom. However, the Canon is smaller and doesn't zoom as far. Plus no XLR handle for robust audio input. So that's another reason for the Panasonic.
If you can swing a look at the X1500 with top handle as a bundle, you would have an amazing modern settup. You will gain all kind of features but the biggest loss will be a 1/2" type sensor. I've found it to be great, and the 10bit is awesome. Low light is only a concern if you don't have spill light. Lights and lasers from a stage make the sensor size no problem. Trying to film a fimlu lit wedding reception will require an additional light which is included on the audio handle).
It's around 1900ish, so check it out. I hate the buttons, and did several reviews of the x1500 Panasonic, but otherwise it's an amazing little camera.
Cheers.
@@RobertHamm Do you really feel like quality will be better with a 1/2 size sensor at 10 bit vs a canon cmos 1" at 8 bit ?
Yes. That's why I wrote what I wrote.
@@RobertHamm I ended up going with the gh6! Once I realized what that thing can do I totally forgot about these. My channel is Discover Two Eleven by the way incase you like techno music. Thank you!
Well absolutely. It's a great powerhouse choice. just get a nice wide prime for the low light, the iso boost works great but you will always have better video with more light in a club environment. Cheers.
Excellent in-depth video! I have the hc x2000 & cx350 and mostly do live streaming. I find the colour matching live for my cameras don’t match, I knew that already based on different sensors. I’ve seen HCx1 come up for sale in my local market at a decent price that’s why I’m here to learn about the camera. Still deciding to buy it, I like SDI that’s my only hesitation with this camera. Didn’t know there was -3 db for gain I find out doors the one inch sensor really over exposed as the x2000 great out doors on auto with a smaller sensor and 5 axis OIS out preforms the cx350 which has poor OIS. I rarely use the camcorders for filming I use mirrorless Sony A7s3 for videography/ cinematography.
Thanks 🙏 appreciate the time you took to share the cameras pros and cons. Make it easer for us to decide.
Well, the HCX1 doesn't have SDI, you would need the UX180 if you wanted to stickw with Panasonic. Both share the older 8bit sensor, but are really your only option other than another CX350. As for color matching, I don't generally have an issue between the cameras, but I did set up each camera to match. The color porfiles are close between the 2000 and HCX1, but need some tweaking to get them right.
Overexposure on the HCX1 is worse than the 2000, likely because of the different sensor generations. I always shoot manual anyway, so dial in the exposure as needed. The built in ND filters help a lot with this. If you are shooting a lot in auto!ode, you can set the Auto Exposure level on both the 2000 and 350. It works just like exposure compensation on a mirrorless camera. It's a good move to set that down by about a stop or to stui your needs. I shoot with the 2000 on Auto sometimes and find that helpful.
Thanks for the comment. Cheers.
What shotgun mic and dead cat wind screen are you using there on then camcorder ?
I was using an XM55 (cheap mic) and a dead cat that came tiwh it with some felt wrapped around the mic before I put the cat on. Cheap-cheap, but work well. After a couple of years I sis upgrade to a saramonic shotgun mic, the NV5x, another pretty inexpensive mic, but it has been a nice upgrade. The sound is better than the XM55, so give it a look if you are still looking.
Hi Robert ! After watching a lot of sample footage, including yours , I finally bought a UX180 , I got it last week and I am still getting to know it.
I want to ask you what frame rate did you use in the footage in this video , did you shoot at 60p and edited it down to 30p or did you just shoot it at 30p and edit it at 30p ? Thank you !
Great question and one that will spark a debate with many different thoughts. Generally I shoot in 30 fps for everything except things I want to slow down, like action or dancing. Then I will shoot in as high of a frame rate that I have available on that device. Most of the time that is 60fps 4K. I always use a 24p timeline for my edits and export. This gives me some slow motion options with the 60fps footage and allows me to choose to use the 30p footage for whatever I need. I use 30p as a catch all. If I need to smooth out someone walking. Then I can get 80% slow motion and it works. If I forget to switch to 24p for all talking head shots, then the 30p footage looks more normal than 60p footage on a 24p timeline. If I can change to 24p, I will. If I'm unsure, I'll use 30p. The video you watched was recorded in 4k 24p and edited on a 1080 24p timeline. Cheers.
@@RobertHamm I appreciate your detailed answer Robert ! This is my first 24p capable camera , but since I live in Spain, and this is a 50hz region, I don't know if I am going to notice the difference between 24p and our regular 25p , which is what I 've used always to avoid flickering .
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I asked the question because my previous camera only had interlaced video , and the footage seemed more fluid than the UX180 at 25p , and I was considering using interlaced video or 50fps to have more options before rendering at 25p.
I think I'llhave to put my mad scientist coat on and do some experiments.
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PS : There some magic to converting between 30p to 24p and viceversa ,I´ve always noticed american tv shows have a very particular look , I guess it has to do with all those conversions plus the additional conversion to PAL.
Thank you again !
it would be very helpful if the next time tutorial about the menu of the HC-X1. The camera is very good, but the menu is not structured intuitively.Thanks
Where did you get the internal mic cover part? What's it called?
It's a Mevo Mic Cover. amzn.to/3qRtlAn
Hi will any 3 pin microphone fit the camrea?
Any XLR will work.
Thanks so much for sharing this video. We have the same camera as you and it's great. Just a question what is the name of the cover that you use in the integrate microphone of the camera ( in the front) mind you share the link plz? Thanks so much in advance
Hi. I use the Movo wind screen. It works and looks great. There are several different styles including a white hair dead cat. I think this one works better. Here's the link: amzn.to/3aKZb9G
@@RobertHamm thank so much great great video.
Thanks so much for your video I use this camera with out edu set up in a studio, with atem mini extreme pro iso , have you used it as a webcam similar to my set up, was wondering if you have used it this way ? And have you been able to get the auto zoom through the wifi app or if it works with atem zoom ?
Surprised this wasn't mentioned in the video or the comments...now that it's over a year since you posted this, have you had any issues with the jog dial ceasing to function when turned? We have two of these cameras (UX180 version) we use about 80%/20% for tripod vs run and gun use typically several times a week for 1-3 hours per outing. They are going on 5 years of use now, and on the camera we use most (has a shotgun mic attached full time, so we tend to grab it first) the jog dial will respond to a click, but not to turning. This is obviously problematic, as it's the only way to directly change the shutter on this camera. As I Googled for info on this problem, I found many others with the same issue of the jog dial malfunction. Seems to be an issue with the hardware and not an issue of dust or debris entry that would often occur in a jog dial type wheel, as the only remedy offered to anyone from Panasonic is to replace the jog dial. One would think that shutter could still be adjusted via the touch screen, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I have worked around it by pushing the shutter *button* to temporarily switch to auto shutter and then adjust my iris ring until the camera auto-adjusts the shutter to my desired speed and then clicked off the auto shutter so it stays where it's at...then put my iris where I actually want it. Inconvenient for sure. Curious if that's something they've fixed with the "new" model under a different name or if it's still an issue for anyone.
This is a great comment. Thanks for sharing. No. I have not experienced this with any of my Panasonic Camcorders or cameras. I don't think it's surprising for me not to talk about it in the video because I haven't even experienced it. If you want to see a video where I talk about my dislike of the buttons, check out my latest x1500, 2000 CX10 video. So, had I experienced it, I would have mentioned it. I'm very happy with the Camera. Dynamic range is a big consideration with this camera, but other than that, I love it. Cheers.
@@RobertHamm Surprised it wasn't mentioned in one of the two places I meant...didn't expect you to mention an issue you've never had. :) Other than that one issue, we have had zero troubles with the cameras. That being said, it's a pretty major issue not being able to navigate menus or set shutter speed easily if/when it happens. Given the age of our units, I'm looking at replacement options. The feature set of these was an obvious plus when we bought them, but our main filter for picking cameras was whether or not they have any wireless capability. We film in high security areas where any wireless connectivity is not allowed. The UX180 at the time was honestly the only camera of this good of a feature set to have it as an option instead of including it, so that's what we went with. Fast forward to now, and the HC-X1 and CX350 are the only two cameras my B&H rep has found without wireless built in. Given our UX180 jog dial issue, I'm hesitant to replace it with the "same" camera. The CX350 has a jog dial as well, but looks like it may be different a different part, but without having my hands on one I can't be sure. No matter what we end up replacing with, I will likely take on the daunting task of replacing the jog dial(s) whenever we get replacement cameras. I've watched a video on doing the job and it involves practically disassembling the entire camera.
HELP HELP HELP? 🙏🏼 please?
I just purchased the at-ux180 and I love everything about it but… I can’t get it to zoom past 176mm. Im wanting it to get to the 480mm but can’t figure out how to in the menu setting?
Thanks
Hello. It's a 1" sensor. You won't see 480 on the display because that is the 35mm equivelant. The Lens
Focal Length is from 8.8 to 176mm (35mm Equivalent Focal Length: 24 to 480mm). So when you are at 176mm you are at an equivelant field of view on 35mm to 480mm. Maybe you didn't understand the 1" sensor fromat before you bought the camera, but everyything is fine. It's just comfusing sometimes. It's also clearly marked on the box and panasonic's site that the 480mm is what you would get if you were shooting a full frame camera with an equivelant zoom. Cheers.
@@RobertHamm Well that makes a lot of sense. Thank you so much! I really do appreciate you reaching back out.
If I can trouble for one more thing. I notice when I put my fisheye on the front. Idk if I doing something wrong, but every time I got to try and use my opteka fish on my ux180 it’s blurry.. I even try using manual focus and pulling focus but nothing cleans up? What am I doing wrong.
Please help?? I’ll throw the same fishery’s on my 28-75mm tamron lens when on my Sony a7s3 and looks really clear. 🤔
Idk.. maybe there’s a setting That needs turned off or on with the ux180?
Thanks again Rob!
Nice video thank you! I like the UX180 enough I bought a 2nd one but the low res, poor color, shiny LCD irritates me a lot. And so does the limited processing it has. The wide lens, 20X zoom and UHD 60p make it a good camera though.
I like the camera. The LCD screen sucks, though. I agree. But everything else is good. I use a field monitor and call it good. Thanks for your comment.
@@RobertHamm Can you recommend an external screen.
Using this at 2024 haha, video still great
great video! #250 👍
Perfect video. Thank you! I just want to add a question - can this camera display the clip number/clip name in recording mode? I think DVX200 can - after pressing rec-button, it shows you the clip name for few seconds. It sounds trivial but I really need it in my work :) Thanks
Yes. Just press the display button. You can also set it up to show timecode, time remaining, or camera name.
best video I also have seen about this camera and I have watched a lot in the past. I was surprised this camera doesn't have auto iso? I have the panasonic DVX200 and that has auto iso. For me that's a very important feature to have. The canon C100 also doesn't have auto iso.
It does have auto gain/iso. I don't use it often. In the video I was saying that I would have liked to have had an exposure compensation function, like most of their camcorders. That could have been helpful controlling the exposure withing a certain range of variables. Instead. This camera has an iris compensation function. It works the same, but only on the iris.
Brilliant, thanks.
No problem. Check out my latest video about the X1500. There is a nice comparison to the HCx1.
You picked it up a couple of years before 2021...so in 2019 it was $2300....today in feb 2022 the price is $2900-$3100...what the heck
The global chip shortage. I believe I said that in the video. Google it for more information.
I use the ux-180 and really regretted purchasing it, until I met someone who told me don't get hung up on all your fancy equipment just focus on the story in front of you. Never worried about it again.
It's all about story. Thanks for sharing.
I filmed this with a HCx1 ( and many others ) a few moons ago hand held ruclips.net/video/3XFgDiy5Tq0/видео.html sold the camera ...but might buy another one
simple for me, a video camera or a photo camera?? now days an iPhone can record 4k, but I would NEVER go to do my job recording with an iPhone, even if the iPhone records better quality than my main camera, bottom line everything has it's price, and there's a reason for it.
Agreed.
Got my HCX1 for 900 bucks a couple years ago haha
Good deal.
Stick with the review of the video camera and quit jumping around proving you know something. Very irritating to watch your videos, I want to see the features of this camera NOT anything about 35mm digital cameras. Thats why I decided to watch your video in the first place.
Yeah, I still don't think SLRs are really video cameras. But, of course, thousands of people (and manufacturers) are proving me wrong. But SLRs don't handle like a video camera does. And they need too much attached, and cumbersome junk that's simply annoying!
I'll make a video any way I want. Go watch another video if you don't like the format. Or better yet, stop complaining and make your own video.
Yeah, man, Barry, that wasn’t called for.
tolk tolk tolk tolk and no any demo... irritating title-type, wasting of time...
Why don't you make a video? No, instead of doing something, you criticize others. You're a total fraud! :)