Saw Kiss on the RnR Over Tour, Love Gun, Dynasty & the 1996 reunion tour. I understand band members change, but the mystique is the original 4. Countless Friday nights watching Don Kirschners Rock Concert, Paul Lynde Halloween show, Phantom of the Park...endelss true memories of the original 4.
Phantom sucked, blech, what were they thinking with that? The Paul Lynde Halloween show I just rewatched and that was a disaster. Though the rest of the special was weird, Lynde was obviously drunk and it looked about ready to fall of the rails at any moment. Pretty funny and of course the absolute best part of that special was Margaret Hamilton. At least SHE brought it 🙂
I absolutely love Kiss Meets The Phantom of The Park! Well except for that young couple...terrible actors but the rest of the movie was great! I guess you have to be a true fan to love it...but at least there are 2 of us out there! :)
I listen to kiss to hear Ace and see Ace. As long as he's playing and singing..everything is ok. Roket Ride, 2000 Man, Shock me, New York Groove.. I could go on all day.
I love Peter Criss, but he always makes excuses and just squandered his talent and opportunity in mid-1978 -well before the Dynasty album. He was a pivotal part of the band, but never takes responsibility for the real reason why he’s not currently in the band. Gene and Paul are strong-willed leaders (which every successful band needs), but they’d have never kicked him out had he stayed off drugs and stayed the course. Hell, even Ace hung around for 3-4 years after Peter’s departure..as bad off as Ace was, he still recognized his value in the staying power of the band. Until he didn’t, but that’s another story. That said, I think they should’ve shelved the makeup once the original 4 were no longer on stage (after the 96 reunion tour era).
Yeah... the reason why Peter didn't keep on playing after "Psycho Circus" was, among other things, he was unable to play the drums live. Even then he got mad about that! Gene and Paul are pragmatic to a fault but without them, there would be no band... and I think their friction is strictly business because every album Ace releases there's a guest appearance by Gene, at least...
Blah blah blah!!!! Bashing a living legend drummer, are you people frickin crazy 🤪!!!! Peter is a legend and how do any of you judge him or always go by stories from Paul and Gene?? Pathetic
I agree and love Baby Driver and Houlagan and Dirty Livin!!! I am a die hard Peter Criss fan and anything he sang was legendary!!! Black Diamond, Hard Luck woman, Beth, Strange Ways!!!
Peter didn't play because he was not upto par due to his drug use. I love all the members of KISS, but fame got to both Peter and Ace. Ace was always my favorite. I wish he had passed on some of the drinking and drugs.
The car accident affected his playing. Robert Plants singing changed after his car accident. Look at Phil Collins in his later years, he can’t even play because he had years of injuries. Drummers have the most physical job and are prone to back injuries, slipped discs, arthritis, knee and hip problems. A guitar player can be wheelchair bound and still play. Elton could get away with rolling around in a wheelchair and play piano for 2 hours. Drummers can’t get away with that.
Not all of that tour, maybe four or five. But not on all of that tour. Sorry, it was no other than Anton Fig and even on all of the Unmasked tour, until they announced their new drummer Eric Carr, to finish that tour out.
Peter Criss is a drumming legend period ! His drumming on the first 7 Kiss records speaks for itself. Was he a Peart or Bonham ? No he wasn't but his style gave Kiss a very unique sound and helped make Kiss a household name in the 1970's. Ask practically any popular hard rock drummer who was one of their first influences and Peter's name will be among them. There's only one Catman and everyone knows it's Peter Criss ! 🤘🥁🔥🤘
Peter is a great guy at heart and part of the original KISS magic. But if we are being honest... he DID disrespect the magic of it all himself. He did get sloppy, both personally and professionally. He hurt the 'brand', and he either couldn't or wouldn't measure up to the standard they were trying to set. He mocked and laughed at the costumes. He criticized much of what the rest of the band were trying to do, and what the fans loved. The reason KISS uses his image isn't because 'lawyers got involved'. It's because Peter literally signed away his rights to the 'image' and make-up. Ace, on the other hand, did not. He still owns his image and make-up, but... leases it to KISS. That's why Paul and Gene are legally allowed to use the make-up. I do not agree with them using it. I think it's ridiculous. But... that's why.
You absolutely 💯 percent wrong!!!! Peter was amazing and fantastic and imagine being him and Ace and amazing and treated like stepchildren, pathetic!!! Peter and Ace made many mistakes, but have admitted to their faults, and the other two delusional idiots, hate the fact that they were both Peter and Ace very talented and in their prime untouchable!!!! Piss on Paul and Gene!!!! Team Peter and Ace always
@kevinchandler179 its amazing how Peter and Ace were all the talent but allowed Paul and Gene to get writing credit on 95% of their hits. How considerate.
I’d have mocked and laughed at those costumes too. That Dynasty look was terrible, and so far away from the badass black, white and silver classic image. Also, best song on Dynasty is Peter’s! Dirty Livin rules 😎
I’ve thankfully never had a problem with drugs or alcohol but of the original lineup I like both Ace and Peter as both people and musicians the best. What I’m saying is that I have more respect for people who are honest about their problems, especially when they are able to overcome them. Both Gene and Paul never had a reputation for either drugs or alcohol but they are both two of the most arrogant and entitled individuals I’ve ever witnessed.
So you prefer honest drug addicts/alcoholics who jeopardized the band instead of arrogant, sober rock stars? Are you 15? Peter and Ace had problems, end of story. Stop idealizing... but Ace has a great solo career, what about Peter? Your comparison is evil, you have no idea how tough it is to be held hostage by your addictions if you think like that...
@@redacted2275The fact is, 90% of musicians are on drugs and are worshipped. Yet only Ace and Peter are called out on it. Bet it doesn't happen with the Rolling Stones.
It's All about money and ego which is so true....very unfortunately which happens everywhere.Peter Chriss and Ace Frealey were and always will be the true original Kiss no matter what happened and no one can replace what is the real originality of someone or something Fact
People have demons in life and both of these gentlemen fought them and won . They're both living great lives. Money isn't happiness. The original line up can never be compared to any line up in the band. Ace is still making music. People who have struggled with addiction and pulled through know this and understand.
Peter Criss is a frickin legend and just wants to be retired and live life with his wife!!!! The man is amazing and Paul and Gene still want to bash Peter and Ace, disgusting!!!!!! The impostors and wheelchair tour!!!!
My uncle and one of my cousins went to see KISS in Chicago 1978 Alive II tour they played for 2 nights and he said it was amazing he got to see everything Gene spit fire and blood ace's smoking guitar and Peter just pounding away at the drums what if Peter and ace stayed nothing would ever be said today
Even Ace says Peter lost it with Alcohol,and Drugs…I wish he would just tell the truth, he wanted out, he was bringing the Band down, just go on with your life, I loved the Originals, but Substance by two hurt the Band, it wasn’t Paul or Gene doing drugs, it was Ace and Peter, Ace owned up to his faults…every part of Kiss is Kiss, I love every member, it’s life, so members leave.
Unlike Paul and especially Gene it seems Peter never took the fans for granted he is very appreciative and grateful. Let me tell you as an ex Pro retired drummer there is nothing wrong with his drumming he was the the right guy for this band trust me!
Exactly I felt that one too. Similar to the lottery winners they took a 1-time payout and forfeited their future %. Who knew KISS would go as long as they did. They were all on the verge of splitting up back then and going their separate ways. Their stock was low but Peter & Ace sold theirs figuring it wouldn't go back up.
Are you people that stupid!!! Peter said in his book as well he trusted his lawyer, and by the way if Paul and Gene had a heart, they would write Peter and Ace a huge check, because they were founding members as well!!!
I loved and still listen to regularly the first album, Hotter than Hell and Dressed to Kill which have all 4 original members playing on and it’s been 50 years and Cold Gin is still my favorite song by Kiss
Actually they said back then Peter was on his honey moon when they were doing the actual recording. That was over a month he & Debbie were out of the country.
@@shyman99 from what I remember there's A LOT of stuff that was not recorded on studio by Peter and Ace, and a nice chunk of Gene basslines too. Paul is the only member who plays in all the studio albums.
@@shyman99 In this case they trash them because they were not on board with the road Kiss took. Ace I know hated Dynasty and fought to go back to a heavier sound, and Paul answered that with Unmasked and Music from The Elder.
Bull. He didn't play on it was because he was too coked out to play. He was far more interested in getting high and brooding on a solo career. He says as much in his book.
With old guys like this that were drugged out back then, I imagine that they don’t actually remember how/why things went down the way they did. So all they can do is try to spin a narrative based on what they think their younger self thought at the time.
Peter didnt play on Dynasty because the producer thought he couldnt cut it. The rest is damage control. Peter seems like a nice dude, especially to fans. But he's protecting his ego here.
I love Peter Criss and Ace Frehley. I agree with Peter about the Dynasty album. I went to that show and War Machine Tour with Vinnie Vincent and Eric Carr. I was disappointed that Peter and Ace weren't there the second time. I agree with the one caller who said he loved your voice. I really do too. Nothin' To Lose, Black Diamond ...man your vocals are so epic. Love you man. Never forget that the fans love you. You are the only Catman I will accept.
Don't forget Hard Luck Woman!!! Peter shined like a mother fucker on that, Black Diamond, Beth, Strange Ways, Nothing to lose and more!!! He had by far the best voice in the band!!!
I never got to see Kiss with Peter, as Eric came to Australia in 1980. Peter was a brilliant drummer back then, and still is now. He and Ace were Kiss, and Gene and Paul knew it all too well… and that was the problem. Rock on Cat Man!!! 🥁
It's already been documented that the producer of Dynasty...Vini Poncia, didn't want Peter to play on the album. Peter's memory is hazy at best on this. Criss was hindered by injuries to his hands that he had suffered in a 1978 car accident. He did play drums of "Dirty Livin".
When this stuff is brought up, it's never mentioned that there's songs where Gene didn't play bass. And there's songs where Paul doesn't play even rhythm guitar. Most of the time on Ace's songs, it's him playing all the guitars and bass. On a song like Hard Times, for instance, Gene and Paul aren't on that song at all. I know on Save Your Love, you can hear Paul signing backup vocals, but that's all he did on the track. And some of Paul's songs, like Love Gun itself and Sure Know Something, it's Paul playing bass. Oh, and as far as Peter not playing on most of Dynasty and all of Unmasked, the story I remember hearing was, that was Vini Poncia's call. I think by the time of Unmasked, Peter had already been fired, but on Dynasty, Peter was still recovering from a car accident, and Vini felt Peter wasn't ready for prime time, as it were. Ironically, Peter was the whole reason Poncia was working with the band, because Vini had produced Peter's solo album, and Gene and Paul chose Vini to produce Dynasty to please Peter (though I still say the fact that Vini had previously worked with Ringo Starr played into as well, giving Gene and Paul to get one step closer that upper upper level of greatness..."Hey, our new producer worked with one of the Beatles!").
@@88kwthomas I've seen him miss plenty. He's only gotten worse with experience. But even when he was younger his solo on Animalize Live is one for the record books.
I was 9, and Dynasty was my first concert. I will always love the Original 4, and it pains me to see so much disfunction in the later years. Back then KISS could do no wrong, and was the gold standard.
Peter was still pretty delusional here. It`s a well known fact that Peter was not able to play on Dynasty for different reasons. The car crash. Drugs and alcohol. Not rehearsing on the 2 year hiatus between 1977 and 1979.. Even his friend; Vini Poncia, who produced Dynasty was in on using Anton Fig.
When Peter talked about dynasty notice he said nothing about his heavy drug use alcohol and that he was so messed up he really couldn't play drums that well anymore instead he wanted to say the band lost their edge and he didn't like the outfits.
I always got the sense that Paul and Gene were exasperated with Ace, flustered with him and aggravated by him…. But never truly hated or even disliked him….but I get the sense that they really do hate Peter
Wow, some of these comments are a bit nasty and extreme, !! If you're a KISS fan from way back, its a bit messed up. We all know what happened, lets just get over it.
The four original makeup designs have been registered with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, with ownership and licensing rights are solely held by Simmons and Stanley. Ace Frehley and drummer Peter Criss], basically, sold it off , because they didn't think it was worth anything.
I'm a kiss fan way back. Saw the end of classic kiss 79 .makeup. reunion the end of the road. I'm staying out of the band politics. I went because I love live kiss. Thanks
I love Peter, he is in fact part of the original lineup. But, he and everyone else need to understand something. First off, Peter if he would have just shown up for the rehearsals, left the drugs and alcohol alone. But also he sold his half out to the band KISS. So, it's all is fault that goes back to the mid 1976 when recording for the Rock And Roll Over album. Showing up to work on your time isn't cool or is not your rule to do, especially if there is a deadline for the recordings to make the album. It's a group rule, to show up when it's time to go to work. You don't make hours up for yourself when it's convenient for you. If the four of you agree to when to show up, show the f up. Plane simple. Peter you are one gifted man, and I love you bro, but, you have yourself to blame. This was a magical thing that the four you created, and you blew it.
Hey you're absolutely right because Peter flaked out. Him & Ace both were undependable and let the band and the fans down. They fucked up but i still appreciate their contributions to the original band.
Also agree here. Fan of the original four, Ace my favorite, and realize Gene and Paul have their own issues. But P&G put in the work (Paul especially in the 80's where Gene wasn't 100% committed to the band). I wish it would've worked out, that there was middle ground found, but that's life. The pointing of fingers is tiresome, but I'm happy the band existed and had their heyday...and we'll always have that at least.
You can never measure your fame based on how popular you are in Japan. In japan you are famous waaay after you star faded everywhere else . It's kinda like a las vegas
Peter and Paul, at least in hindsight, have expressed displeasure with the Dynasty outfits, in their books. Dynasty outfits were the first KISS outfits to have "outside help" i.e. designer(s?). Before that they designed outfits themselves, experientially modifying/upgrading for practicallity as they went along. Also Gene's sketchbooks were full of ideas, some of which were used. (Gene's LoveGun chest chains and Paul's Love Gun chain boots were originally from the same outfit sketch. Gene's LoveGun/Alive II wings&shouder covers were originally 'spider-webs' in a sketchbook. So the earlier Dynasty outfit/s for Gene (there were 4 at least in total, not counting Unmasked) had Spider-web wings (plus the lizard skeleton on his back. Plus a red cape: rectangle 'superman' red cape; short 'flames' red cape; long 'flames' red cape; asymetrically 'ripped up' red cape)
Sad that the original line up couldn't continue! Drugs and alcohol didn't help. The guys are now 80, the party is over! Happy I got to see the original band during the reunion tour.
I remember Bob Kulick saying he was walking out the studio and seeing Ace unconscious face down in a plate full of 2 day old nachos. I think that's probably a more accurate image of why Ace wasn't on the records.
I think mine may still be wrapped in it as well. I was a big fan as a boy, and hearing that album was a huge letdown. The goofy colours, Peter looking like he was fresh outta the nest and waiting to take flight, it was the end of a decade and Era for the band. The songs were mediocre, and everyone left the band in the dust. They got lucky in the mid 80's with a handful of songs, and if they didn't reunite, the band would of faded away after Revenge. They all wanted money, and I won't fault them for that, but they flogged that horse for twenty years too long.
@@megadethmofo2001 Curiously enough, Rush has more Platinum Albums than Kiss while playing a less commercial type of music. Granted Kiss probably made more money than them through merchandise but goes to show that Rush were right when the said "All this machinery making modern music can still be open-hearted".
It's embarrassing that Peter lies his ass off, without Trunk and no one else reacting! He deliberately sabotaged a few of the shows during the Dynasty tour, and he wasn't allowed to play on Dynasty and Unmasked because he was to drugged out and could not play drums. And for him to say he like Japan?!? He said to Paul during the reunion tour, when they caused mass hysteria in Japan, " I`m tired of this Hard days night bullshit".
Being completely honest..I’m ok with KISS going on with other members..the reasons are endless money,hate ,disagreements musically..bla bla bla ..love Peter love ace ..and love guys who keep it going..it just is what is ..like he said “things happen man” ..who’s fault…who cares ..nothing anybody can do about it long live KISS …especially the original KiSS
KISS was really something before but what si it to say over years. To me kiss was about the 4 original members Gene, Ace, Paul & Peter. Thats what the fans are saying. The one who is the real Kiss fans. I was there when Kiss got the secund chance it was great.
His heart & and soul not into it??? Let’s be completely honest, Peter could no longer play well from Dynasty onward. Even during the reunion, Psycho Circus, & Farewell tours his playing was lackluster at best. His timing was off & he had to use triggers on the drum set as he lacked strength in his playing. I like Peter and what he brought to the band but at a certain point he couldn’t play well anymore. It’s as simple as that.
He was awesome on the reunion tour, are you kidding me? He, was the oldest member of them and had arthritis badly, and still was focused and very sound!!!
@siberianhusky5874 At 49 years old and the car accidents as well genius, if your going to talk out of your ass, do it somewhere else!!! Catman the best, conversion over
@@SiberianHusky666 Try dealing wih chronic pain and things that impair your physical abilities and see how you feel. Clearly, something is affecting your cognitive abilities.
“Dynasty Tour” I was 7. I was gonna be 8 in 4 more days. Had every album. Knew every song because I listened to every album. I still have that tour book I got that night. Dynasty is great and it’s different. Sometimes looking at your collection I grab Dynasty. Not their best but I do like every song on it.
Okay- I thought it was funny that 2 or the first 3 callers were named Gene and Peter and when they took the last call I thought "oh, it's got to be Paul- and then it WAS! Lol. What are the chances?
In his book Peter seems to insinuate that their friendship ended when Nolan got into heroin ….I read a book on Jerry a few years ago, it was very sad. Him and Thunders, the ultimate rock and roll casualties….
Love Dynasty and Anton Fig. The fill he does coming out of the solo on Save Your Love completely annihilates anything Petey ever did. Ace 78 was the first taste of what 70s KISS wouldve sounded like if they had a real drummer. Pete is and always was a terrible, terrible drummer. Oddly enough, in 2024 I think next to Bruce he is the most likeable of the bunch.
Wasn't Peter in the process of being "let go" during Dynasty and that's why he wasn't involved as much? He wasn't involved at all in Unmasked. I think he got fired by then, but it wasn't made public. At the end, he was burned out and over it, and it showed in his performance, so they brought in studio drummers.
Paul’s hatred for Peter is why they didn’t play in the RNRHOF. If they could have gotten Ace without Peter, Paul would have jumped on it. But Ace and Peter was a package deal. Paul is …….something
So he says he he didn't like the colour change and his heart wasn't in it and that's why he didn't play on Dynasty and unmasked. But he stayed with the band and toured with them. Cmon Peter, don't insult your fans intelligence, Tell the truth for once and the real reason you didn't play which we already know. You were in a car accident and Poncia said you shouldn't play on Dynasty because your hands were injured. And then you purposely tried to sabatoge the last few shows on the tour in 79 by changing the tempo in some songs. Gene, Paul and even your buddy Ace has confirmed this.
Nobody in rock music is an angel. That goes for Gene, Paul, Peter, and Ace. It's even in Peter's book where he had a car accident and had to recuperate during that time. He also describes going to rehab and working to regain his chops for a while. In fairness to all, I would think Peter left Kiss because he was tired and his time to be in the band had passed. I think he just needed to sort himself out and do things at his own pace.
It really doesn't matter, because as a die hard Peter Criss fan, and he and Ace were founding members as well, why Paul and Gene being greedy assholes, would still let impostors wear their makeup and not give Peter and Ace a percentage??????? Literally, it's ridiculous, and Peter said years ago, he made a mistake with the lawyer he had, and laughed and said he hated dealing with lawyers!!!!!!
@RoyPage1970 Ace has stated that he owns the makeup and costume, and has leased the rights to the band to use it. He is getting paid for them to use it.
“Each member of KISS had designed his own makeup. Drummer Peter Criss relinquished the rights to his "Catman" character when he left, and Frehley maintains that he licensed his. Ace also claimed in 2014 that he was due to get the rights back soon, a claim Stanley called a "fantasy". "We own it. He sold it", Stanley tweeted back in March 2014 in response to Frehley's comments. *Back in October 2015, Stanley confirmed that KISS owned the rights to the "Spaceman" and "Catman" characters. Speaking to Australia's 4KQ, Stanley said: "The guys basically sold it off for, you know, not a whole lot, because they didn't think it was worth anything. Quite honestly, I've always thought our image and what we represent is priceless. It didn't matter to some people - it truly matters to me."
Was a fan since the Paul Lynde halloween special and couldn't wait to see them in Milwaukee in 79. Only, the show stunk. A lot of smoke, and Paul Stanley saying how "he;'s got this feeling" about 20 times and a very I just want to get the show over feel to it. I, as a senior in HS, was very disappointed.
Love Peter & Ace, but they made a poor buisness decision as to their rights with their image. Paul & Gene are sharks in the water and see the blood. They took advantage of their financial situations.
KISS were losing money and went through very lean, difficult times in the 90’s (as did most bands from the 80’s). They were broke. Not selling tickets or albums (like they used to). Paul kept KISS alive (Gene had all but abandoned the band for Hollywood). Peter and Ace were more than happy to take their money. Paul was determined to bring the band back from the dead. And now Peter and and are crying about it. They weren’t taken advantage of. It’s call hard work. Lots of it.
PS I meant Ace and Peter at least three or four times those are great cats to hang out with man there's only one ace in Peter folks and that is Ace and Peter Tommy Faker could never fill Aces shoes folks let me ask you this how many guitar players has Tommy Faker influenced I'll wait that's right zero you know how many guitar players ace has influenced one of them happens to be Tommy faker
ace quit tommy took his place? Tommy didn't choose he was hired to play the part. was he supposed to say no to a opportunity of a life time? geez i cant take the job because ill hurt aces feelings. ace blew 15 million and filed bankruptcy he was advised not to sell his interest in the band. he was hired to do the reunion and made millions and still owes the irs 250k. ace was a influence while in kiss unlike other influential guitarist he bitched about his old band for 20 years instead of moving on. i was influenced by ace but wanted to learn more and moved on rather than play the same licks for 40 years. why didn't ace and peter form a band they were half of kiss and supposedly great players? even now ace has a kick ass band that covers his ass. his solo album really? Steve brown was responsible for 95%. now the next excuse ace is old no ace is lazy there's plenty of guitarist his age and they don't screw up songs they've played for 40 years. as far as tommy he's been the guitar player in kiss for 20 years and the one who taught ace how to play his own solos for the reunion tour
Peter Criss is a Jazz Drummer that was hired after Paul put an ad in the Village Voice, looking for a Drummer. In countless interviews, Peter has Proudly stated that he is a JAZZ DRUMMER. And a Lazy one at that. If it weren't for Ace Frehley or Kiss picking him up from time to time for a Gig or two. Peter would be playing a Snare Drum on a Brooklyn sidewalk for coins.
You are wrong. Peter made it in two different bands. Chelsea and KISS. So that right there proves he was a great drummer and a big influence in music history. Get your facts straight!!!!!
After the 1978 compilation "Double Platinum" and the 4 solo albums, KISS were pretty much dead to me. And I'll be honest. The only reason I bought the solos was because of the included posters, and not so much the music (with the exception of Ace's contribution). And YES, I did and do like "Music From The Elder" and "Creatures Of The Night" although I didn't (and never will) recognize them as Kiss albums. Both I somehow see as some kind of glitch in the matrix. No Peter + No Ace = NO KISS!
ok the music business is a business.its not all fun and games.just because its not fun all the time is no reason to take your ball and go home for pete sakes.
he is BUT the last Question he didn't answer Honestly, "well there's lawyers & contracts" when in Fact he SOLD the Rights to his make up for a Large sum of Money at once.
Saw Kiss on the RnR Over Tour, Love Gun, Dynasty & the 1996 reunion tour. I understand band members change, but the mystique is the original 4. Countless Friday nights watching Don Kirschners Rock Concert, Paul Lynde Halloween show, Phantom of the Park...endelss true memories of the original 4.
Even the phantom of the park?
Phantom sucked, blech, what were they thinking with that? The Paul Lynde Halloween show I just rewatched and that was a disaster. Though the rest of the special was weird, Lynde was obviously drunk and it looked about ready to fall of the rails at any moment. Pretty funny and of course the absolute best part of that special was Margaret Hamilton. At least SHE brought it 🙂
I absolutely love Kiss Meets The Phantom of The Park! Well except for that young couple...terrible actors but the rest of the movie was great! I guess you have to be a true fan to love it...but at least there are 2 of us out there! :)
I listen to kiss to hear Ace and see Ace. As long as he's playing and singing..everything is ok. Roket Ride, 2000 Man, Shock me, New York Groove.. I could go on all day.
Same!
Man, 1977 I was 7 in Queens NY running to the candy store to buy KISS trading cards.
Do you still have yours, I still have mine
And if you were lucky, you got all the right ones to complete the portrait of the band on the back. The one card with Paul's face was hard to find.
I remember you
Three guys call in and talking to Peter, and their names are Gene, Peter and Paul. Did you notice that? How can that be?? Amazing...and weird.
That was bizarre Peter genne and Paul was the calls he took to wired
The first 3 Kiss albums still stand the test of time, with Hotter than Hell being my favorite, all killer, no filler
Dressed to Kill also killer. The first three are classics.
I don't think the first 2 had a bad track on them. Dressed to kill didn't really resonate with me but I can appreciate what your saying.
Original album, and Rock and Roll over amazing, and Destroyer!!!
It’s garbage music but it doesn’t mean that it isn’t likable. I like listening to it but not because I’m going to be wowed by what I’m hearing
I love Peter Criss, but he always makes excuses and just squandered his talent and opportunity in mid-1978 -well before the Dynasty album. He was a pivotal part of the band, but never takes responsibility for the real reason why he’s not currently in the band. Gene and Paul are strong-willed leaders (which every successful band needs), but they’d have never kicked him out had he stayed off drugs and stayed the course. Hell, even Ace hung around for 3-4 years after Peter’s departure..as bad off as Ace was, he still recognized his value in the staying power of the band. Until he didn’t, but that’s another story. That said, I think they should’ve shelved the makeup once the original 4 were no longer on stage (after the 96 reunion tour era).
Yeah... the reason why Peter didn't keep on playing after "Psycho Circus" was, among other things, he was unable to play the drums live. Even then he got mad about that!
Gene and Paul are pragmatic to a fault but without them, there would be no band... and I think their friction is strictly business because every album Ace releases there's a guest appearance by Gene, at least...
Blah blah blah!!!! Bashing a living legend drummer, are you people frickin crazy 🤪!!!! Peter is a legend and how do any of you judge him or always go by stories from Paul and Gene?? Pathetic
Why doesn't anybody ever mention Baby Driver?? Best Peter Criss song and definitely one of Kiss Best Deep Cuts!!
I agree, great song/vocals
Dirty Living and Mainline too.
I like Dirty living and strange ways.
I agree and love Baby Driver and Houlagan and Dirty Livin!!! I am a die hard Peter Criss fan and anything he sang was legendary!!! Black Diamond, Hard Luck woman, Beth, Strange Ways!!!
That second call brought a tear to my eye , KISS ARMY!!
Seeing the hall of fame was my tear jersey. I knew that was gonna be probably the last time the 4 of them appeared on a stage together.
Whatever. I STILL love Dynasty, AND I LOVE Peter Criss on "DIRTY LIVING" 😻
Peter didn't play because he was not upto par due to his drug use. I love all the members of KISS, but fame got to both Peter and Ace. Ace was always my favorite. I wish he had passed on some of the drinking and drugs.
Well said
The car accident affected his playing. Robert Plants singing changed after his car accident. Look at Phil Collins in his later years, he can’t even play because he had years of injuries. Drummers have the most physical job and are prone to back injuries, slipped discs, arthritis, knee and hip problems. A guitar player can be wheelchair bound and still play. Elton could get away with rolling around in a wheelchair and play piano for 2 hours. Drummers can’t get away with that.
@@muziktrkragreed, people don’t talk about it often enough but Peter’s car accident really effected his playing, probably even years later.
Well said ….they’re like football players in a sense ..all that pounding takes a toll
Maybe your just listening to what gene has been saying for years. Ace has been sober 10 years or so and gene still call him a drug addict.
The band went Vegas and lost its double edge sword?!? Has Peter listened to his solo stuff !?! No balls what so ever
Lol
I like Peter and Ace and don't care for Paul and Gene.
Peter is feeble-minded.
I liked The Cat #1
It's kind of ballsy to do schmaltzy pop when your'e soloing of a hard rock band. But yeah. Ace seems like the best one.
Dirty livin is a great track
Yeah but if you listen to the demo, it actually sucked
@@88kwthomas have to agree .. the demo is "dirtier" and vocally grittier
i always thought dynasty sounded too thin.... sonically.... and the elder sounded too muddy 😒
We love it and I'm a drummer.its bad enough. Your drumming and singing.😂
it's absolutely killer. great showcase for Pete's voice.
Peter did play on Dirty Livin’ and the tour
Not all of that tour, maybe four or five. But not on all of that tour. Sorry, it was no other than Anton Fig and even on all of the Unmasked tour, until they announced their new drummer Eric Carr, to finish that tour out.
Wrong kid he did finish the dynasty tour Eric Carr was not hired until June 1980@@thelovegun66
It was my very first KISS Album i was 12 & cherish it from then till now 57.
This was my first album also and I still love it ..Kiss made me become a drummer.
My first too. I saw the 8-track at Music+ and my parents let me get it. I still have it.
It was my very first album too. I was 9. Immediatly fan.
I got Dynasty for x-Mas '79 when I was 12. I cherish it from then 'till now at 57 too! Far out man.
It was my last kiss album. They lost me on that one and i never returned '96 reunion tour
Black and Silver KISS 74-78 was the bomb! Peter's drums sounded so cool on ALIVE! and Rock and Roll Over. Go Baby Driver!
They were never black and silver.
That is how they described themselves. You must know more!@@b.g.5869
you betcha bud
Yeah man, seemingly this is the only KISS, that matters.
listen to his drum solo on 100,000 years on ALIVE ! 👍
Peter Criss is a drumming legend period ! His drumming on the first 7 Kiss records speaks for itself. Was he a Peart or Bonham ? No he wasn't but his style gave Kiss a very unique sound and helped make Kiss a household name in the 1970's. Ask practically any popular hard rock drummer who was one of their first influences and Peter's name will be among them. There's only one Catman and everyone knows it's Peter Criss ! 🤘🥁🔥🤘
Your exactly right!!! As a die hard Peter Criss fan, he said when Paul said a Bonham he will never be, Peter said yet I am in the same band as you!!!
Peter is a great guy at heart and part of the original KISS magic. But if we are being honest... he DID disrespect the magic of it all himself. He did get sloppy, both personally and professionally. He hurt the 'brand', and he either couldn't or wouldn't measure up to the standard they were trying to set. He mocked and laughed at the costumes. He criticized much of what the rest of the band were trying to do, and what the fans loved. The reason KISS uses his image isn't because 'lawyers got involved'. It's because Peter literally signed away his rights to the 'image' and make-up. Ace, on the other hand, did not. He still owns his image and make-up, but... leases it to KISS. That's why Paul and Gene are legally allowed to use the make-up. I do not agree with them using it. I think it's ridiculous. But... that's why.
You absolutely 💯 percent wrong!!!! Peter was amazing and fantastic and imagine being him and Ace and amazing and treated like stepchildren, pathetic!!! Peter and Ace made many mistakes, but have admitted to their faults, and the other two delusional idiots, hate the fact that they were both Peter and Ace very talented and in their prime untouchable!!!! Piss on Paul and Gene!!!! Team Peter and Ace always
Paul forever tarnished the 'brand' and the Kiss legacy with his lip synching crap. Peter was far from perfect, but he was always genuine.
@kevinchandler179 its amazing how Peter and Ace were all the talent but allowed Paul and Gene to get writing credit on 95% of their hits. How considerate.
@@Yocpucupwell said.
I’d have mocked and laughed at those costumes too. That Dynasty look was terrible, and so far away from the badass black, white and silver classic image.
Also, best song on Dynasty is Peter’s! Dirty Livin rules 😎
The 1970s really was and allways will be my favorite years they had that go get um attitude ❤
How about a new FREHLEY and CRISS tour with two impostors as Stanley and Simmons?
That would be hilarious
@@TommyFlett It will open a huge can of worms that will keep Simmons and Stanley busy for life Lol
But get a Laurel and Hardy Stanley and a fitness guru Richard Simmons as look-alikes to play in the band. Can't get sued for that.
520 people a night would think it's funny.
Love the idea
Peter was a mighty drummer in the 70s and he is a amazing, real and sweet person
Such an awesome drummer. Love him ❤️😼
I’ve thankfully never had a problem with drugs or alcohol but of the original lineup I like both Ace and Peter as both people and musicians the best.
What I’m saying is that I have more respect for people who are honest about their problems, especially when they are able to overcome them.
Both Gene and Paul never had a reputation for either drugs or alcohol but they are both two of the most arrogant and entitled individuals I’ve ever witnessed.
So you prefer honest drug addicts/alcoholics who jeopardized the band instead of arrogant, sober rock stars? Are you 15?
Peter and Ace had problems, end of story. Stop idealizing... but Ace has a great solo career, what about Peter? Your comparison is evil, you have no idea how tough it is to be held hostage by your addictions if you think like that...
@@redacted2275The fact is, 90% of musicians are on drugs and are worshipped.
Yet only Ace and Peter are called out on it.
Bet it doesn't happen with the Rolling Stones.
It's All about money and ego which is so true....very unfortunately which happens everywhere.Peter Chriss and Ace Frealey were and always will be the true original Kiss no matter what happened and no one can replace what is the real originality of someone or something Fact
Look, I'm a fan of Ace and Peter, but don't act like they didn't screw up. Also, they're just as concerned about the money as Gene and Paul are.
People have demons in life and both of these gentlemen fought them and won . They're both living great lives. Money isn't happiness. The original line up can never be compared to any line up in the band. Ace is still making music. People who have struggled with addiction and pulled through know this and understand.
Peter Criss is a frickin legend and just wants to be retired and live life with his wife!!!! The man is amazing and Paul and Gene still want to bash Peter and Ace, disgusting!!!!!! The impostors and wheelchair tour!!!!
❤❤❤ 😊love the originals. Can't say enough. We realize 50yrs. But there is something about them.
My uncle and one of my cousins went to see KISS in Chicago 1978 Alive II tour they played for 2 nights and he said it was amazing he got to see everything Gene spit fire and blood ace's smoking guitar and Peter just pounding away at the drums what if Peter and ace stayed nothing would ever be said today
Even Ace says Peter lost it with Alcohol,and Drugs…I wish he would just tell the truth, he wanted out, he was bringing the Band down, just go on with your life, I loved the Originals, but Substance by two hurt the Band, it wasn’t Paul or Gene doing drugs, it was Ace and Peter, Ace owned up to his faults…every part of Kiss is Kiss, I love every member, it’s life, so members leave.
LOVE Peter's voice on "nothin to lose"!
I also liked Black Diamond and, especially, Getaway.
@@markdepeppo7520don't forget hard luck woman
Strange ways
@@craigsteinman9807 we
baby driver
Unlike Paul and especially Gene it seems Peter never took the fans for granted he is very appreciative and grateful. Let me tell you as an ex Pro retired drummer there is nothing wrong with his drumming he was the the right guy for this band trust me!
Is that why Criss sabotaged KISS live shows during the Dynasty tour? Is that how he show his love for his fans?
Yea....we trust you....
He wasn't the right guy....Eric Carr was the right guy, unfortunately his life was cut short....he was the best drummer for Kiss
Ace and Peter were the heart and soul of the band.
just not the talent and professionalism
@paulaitix77 Yes, I love them all really.
YEAH GREAT ON LIK IT UP ALBUM !!!
@@LROCKIN That was a different band
Kinda strange that the first 3 callers were Gene, Paul, Peter...
Peter sold the rights to his image that’s why he doesn’t receive any money for it anymore and he should have answered the question truthfully
He has in the past I’m sure, not sure why he’s not saying so now ?
Yea Im so lucky my time here on earth I had KISS.
I still think the late 70's were the best
Yeah that last answer was a really long and roundabout way of saying "I signed something I now regret signing/ shouldn't have signed". Simple as that.
Exactly I felt that one too. Similar to the lottery winners they took a 1-time payout and forfeited their future %. Who knew KISS would go as long as they did. They were all on the verge of splitting up back then and going their separate ways. Their stock was low but Peter & Ace sold theirs figuring it wouldn't go back up.
Are you people that stupid!!! Peter said in his book as well he trusted his lawyer, and by the way if Paul and Gene had a heart, they would write Peter and Ace a huge check, because they were founding members as well!!!
I loved and still listen to regularly the first album, Hotter than Hell and Dressed to Kill which have all 4 original members playing on and it’s been 50 years and Cold Gin is still my favorite song by Kiss
Cold Gin, written by Frehley, was the first song I learned to play and sing on guitar!
I agree, I absolutely love the first 3 albums as well!!! My ultimate favorite song 🎵 is Black Diamond and always will be!!! Lol
@@kevinchandler179came to say, Black Diamond is their best. Saw the original members play Vegas in 99 and they closed with BD and it was AMAZING.
There are a sobriety of reasons Peter didn't play on "Dynasty" and it wasn't because they had "gone Hollywood". 😆
Actually they said back then Peter was on his honey moon when they were doing the actual recording. That was over a month he & Debbie were out of the country.
@@scottcayouette6829 - So both the guys and Beth were waiting on Peter?
@@shyman99 from what I remember there's A LOT of stuff that was not recorded on studio by Peter and Ace, and a nice chunk of Gene basslines too. Paul is the only member who plays in all the studio albums.
@@RockoEstalon - Perhaps so. But should they trash the songs which are fan favorites just because they weren't playing on them?
@@shyman99 In this case they trash them because they were not on board with the road Kiss took. Ace I know hated Dynasty and fought to go back to a heavier sound, and Paul answered that with Unmasked and Music from The Elder.
Bull. He didn't play on it was because he was too coked out to play. He was far more interested in getting high and brooding on a solo career. He says as much in his book.
With old guys like this that were drugged out back then, I imagine that they don’t actually remember how/why things went down the way they did. So all they can do is try to spin a narrative based on what they think their younger self thought at the time.
If he was drugged up, then he was like 98% of rock stars back then.
@@dhenderson1810 Not a question of "if". He said he was in his book.
Peter didnt play on Dynasty because the producer thought he couldnt cut it. The rest is damage control. Peter seems like a nice dude, especially to fans. But he's protecting his ego here.
He had stopped practicing and spent his time doing drugs. It’s that simple. He just didn’t care for the work part of being a rock star anymore.
I love Peter Criss and Ace Frehley. I agree with Peter about the Dynasty album. I went to that show and War Machine Tour with Vinnie Vincent and Eric Carr. I was disappointed that Peter and Ace weren't there the second time. I agree with the one caller who said he loved your voice. I really do too. Nothin' To Lose, Black Diamond ...man your vocals are so epic. Love you man. Never forget that the fans love you. You are the only Catman I will accept.
war machine tour? you mean creatures of the night?
Don't forget Hard Luck Woman!!! Peter shined like a mother fucker on that, Black Diamond, Beth, Strange Ways, Nothing to lose and more!!! He had by far the best voice in the band!!!
Dynasty and Unmasked did not sound like Black and Silver KISS. ALIVE II and Rock and Roll Over were the last.
Lets not forget Baby Driver@kevinchandler179
The OG Kiss is all that matters.
That's what I was thinking too!
Eric Carr destroyed Criss on drums
I never got to see Kiss with Peter, as Eric came to Australia in 1980. Peter was a brilliant drummer back then, and still is now. He and Ace were Kiss, and Gene and Paul knew it all too well… and that was the problem. Rock on Cat Man!!! 🥁
It's already been documented that the producer of Dynasty...Vini Poncia, didn't want Peter to play on the album. Peter's memory is hazy at best on this. Criss was hindered by injuries to his hands that he had suffered in a 1978 car accident. He did play drums of "Dirty Livin".
When this stuff is brought up, it's never mentioned that there's songs where Gene didn't play bass. And there's songs where Paul doesn't play even rhythm guitar. Most of the time on Ace's songs, it's him playing all the guitars and bass. On a song like Hard Times, for instance, Gene and Paul aren't on that song at all. I know on Save Your Love, you can hear Paul signing backup vocals, but that's all he did on the track. And some of Paul's songs, like Love Gun itself and Sure Know Something, it's Paul playing bass.
Oh, and as far as Peter not playing on most of Dynasty and all of Unmasked, the story I remember hearing was, that was Vini Poncia's call. I think by the time of Unmasked, Peter had already been fired, but on Dynasty, Peter was still recovering from a car accident, and Vini felt Peter wasn't ready for prime time, as it were. Ironically, Peter was the whole reason Poncia was working with the band, because Vini had produced Peter's solo album, and Gene and Paul chose Vini to produce Dynasty to please Peter (though I still say the fact that Vini had previously worked with Ringo Starr played into as well, giving Gene and Paul to get one step closer that upper upper level of greatness..."Hey, our new producer worked with one of the Beatles!").
Ok
Live Paul is a terrible guitarist. Makes you wonder.
@@captainkirk70In what way is he terrible? Never seen him miss a chord
Thanks for cut an pasting common knowledge and passing it off as your own. Pretty sure this is stated in Paul's book
@@88kwthomas I've seen him miss plenty. He's only gotten worse with experience. But even when he was younger his solo on Animalize Live is one for the record books.
He played on the video. I loved dynasty 🎸
I was 9, and Dynasty was my first concert. I will always love the Original 4, and it pains me to see so much disfunction in the later years. Back then KISS could do no wrong, and was the gold standard.
Destroyer tour was my first concert, and caught them again on the Dynasty tour.
Peter was still pretty delusional here. It`s a well known fact that Peter was not able to play on Dynasty for different reasons. The car crash. Drugs and alcohol. Not rehearsing on the 2 year hiatus between 1977 and 1979..
Even his friend; Vini Poncia, who produced Dynasty was in on using Anton Fig.
Poncia said that Peter was tone deaf
Delusional? Or just a pathological liar?
@@SiberianHusky666 excactly
Takes a real man to admit he was fired because of his lack of chops and drug use. Not this guy.
@@andrewzenn1719 I think far more people would respect him if he'd been honest. America loves misfits who admit they fucked up.
When Peter talked about dynasty notice he said nothing about his heavy drug use alcohol and that he was so messed up he really couldn't play drums that well anymore instead he wanted to say the band lost their edge and he didn't like the outfits.
He had been in a car accident.Wasn't able to play.Anton Fig did all the drumming except Peter's song.
Dynasty is a great album. Kiss were evolving. I think it is still pretty strong and not overtly sexual like some of its predecessors.
agreed - its still a great album. not as raw as the earlier recordings. its more polished. kind of like destroyer.
I always wished Peter and Ace would have teamed up.
Peter, you got Fired. Just admit it with honor. Just say that they wanted you out.
I always got the sense that Paul and Gene were exasperated with Ace, flustered with him and aggravated by him…. But never truly hated or even disliked him….but I get the sense that they really do hate Peter
When was this made ..Peter sounds healthy and sane
Wow, some of these comments are a bit nasty and extreme, !!
If you're a KISS fan from way back, its a bit messed up.
We all know what happened, lets just get over it.
The four original makeup designs have been registered with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, with ownership and licensing rights are solely held by Simmons and Stanley. Ace Frehley and drummer Peter Criss], basically, sold it off , because they didn't think it was worth anything.
It had nothing to do with the drugs and lack of playing ability?
I'm a kiss fan way back. Saw the end of classic kiss 79 .makeup. reunion the end of the road. I'm staying out of the band politics. I went because I love live kiss. Thanks
I love Peter, he is in fact part of the original lineup. But, he and everyone else need to understand something. First off, Peter if he would have just shown up for the rehearsals, left the drugs and alcohol alone. But also he sold his half out to the band KISS. So, it's all is fault that goes back to the mid 1976 when recording for the Rock And Roll Over album. Showing up to work on your time isn't cool or is not your rule to do, especially if there is a deadline for the recordings to make the album. It's a group rule, to show up when it's time to go to work. You don't make hours up for yourself when it's convenient for you. If the four of you agree to when to show up, show the f up. Plane simple. Peter you are one gifted man, and I love you bro, but, you have yourself to blame. This was a magical thing that the four you created, and you blew it.
Hey you're absolutely right because Peter flaked out. Him & Ace both were undependable and let the band and the fans down. They fucked up but i still appreciate their contributions to the original band.
Also agree here. Fan of the original four, Ace my favorite, and realize Gene and Paul have their own issues. But P&G put in the work (Paul especially in the 80's where Gene wasn't 100% committed to the band). I wish it would've worked out, that there was middle ground found, but that's life. The pointing of fingers is tiresome, but I'm happy the band existed and had their heyday...and we'll always have that at least.
You can never measure your fame based on how popular you are in Japan. In japan you are famous waaay after you star faded everywhere else . It's kinda like a las vegas
My favorite outfits were the black leather and studs. I never liked the "Vegas" outfits.
Yep!
Peter and Paul, at least in hindsight, have expressed displeasure with the Dynasty outfits, in their books. Dynasty outfits were the first KISS outfits to have "outside help" i.e. designer(s?). Before that they designed outfits themselves, experientially modifying/upgrading for practicallity as they went along. Also Gene's sketchbooks were full of ideas, some of which were used. (Gene's LoveGun chest chains and Paul's Love Gun chain boots were originally from the same outfit sketch. Gene's LoveGun/Alive II wings&shouder covers were originally 'spider-webs' in a sketchbook. So the earlier Dynasty outfit/s for Gene (there were 4 at least in total, not counting Unmasked) had Spider-web wings (plus the lizard skeleton on his back. Plus a red cape: rectangle 'superman' red cape; short 'flames' red cape; long 'flames' red cape; asymetrically 'ripped up' red cape)
You mean dressed to kill ?
Are you gay? 3/4 of KISS is at least bi.
@@Drahculia I was wondering whether this sketchbook is available in any format...? Cheers
I love peter, biggest drumming idol
Sad that the original line up couldn't continue! Drugs and alcohol didn't help. The guys are now 80, the party is over! Happy I got to see the original band during the reunion tour.
I remember Bob Kulick saying he was walking out the studio and seeing Ace unconscious face down in a plate full of 2 day old nachos. I think that's probably a more accurate image of why Ace wasn't on the records.
I bought Dynasty when i was 14, when it came out. It was my last Kiss album. I might have played it twice. My LP still has the cellophane on it.
I think mine may still be wrapped in it as well. I was a big fan as a boy, and hearing that album was a huge letdown. The goofy colours, Peter looking like he was fresh outta the nest and waiting to take flight, it was the end of a decade and Era for the band. The songs were mediocre, and everyone left the band in the dust.
They got lucky in the mid 80's with a handful of songs, and if they didn't reunite, the band would of faded away after Revenge.
They all wanted money, and I won't fault them for that, but they flogged that horse for twenty years too long.
@donhollio4383 I moved on, I discovered Rush 2112 shortly after.
@@megadethmofo2001 Curiously enough, Rush has more Platinum Albums than Kiss while playing a less commercial type of music. Granted Kiss probably made more money than them through merchandise but goes to show that Rush were right when the said "All this machinery making modern music can still be open-hearted".
Hell yeah, real music with real musicians@@megadethmofo2001
Rush that is!
Peter is great! One thing I wish Peter had done was his voice over work for the Phantom of the Park. That film is so much fun.
Eric Carr was by far a better rock drummer
Not by far. You’re exaggerating
Obviously yr not a drummer.He was simple. Singer is the best as v for talent.
I'm a drummer and Eric Carr was WAY BETTER than Peter Criss. the elder and cotn are recorded proof. @@drumrooster
We are not talking about Eric Carr are we. Different drummer, different genre.
Hahaha
It's embarrassing that Peter lies his ass off, without Trunk and no one else reacting! He deliberately sabotaged a few of the shows during the Dynasty tour, and he wasn't allowed to play on Dynasty and Unmasked because he was to drugged out and could not play drums. And for him to say he like Japan?!? He said to Paul during the reunion tour, when they caused mass hysteria in Japan, " I`m tired of this Hard days night bullshit".
Paul, Gene, and Peter were the first three callers😂
Being completely honest..I’m ok with KISS going on with other members..the reasons are endless money,hate ,disagreements musically..bla bla bla ..love Peter love ace ..and love guys who keep it going..it just is what is ..like he said “things happen man” ..who’s fault…who cares ..nothing anybody can do about it long live KISS …especially the original KiSS
KISS was really something before but what si it to say over years. To me kiss was about the 4 original members Gene, Ace, Paul & Peter. Thats what the fans are saying. The one who is the real Kiss fans. I was there when Kiss got the secund chance it was great.
Paul and Gene are billionaire icons and Peter is forgotten
He really showed them
His heart & and soul not into it??? Let’s be completely honest, Peter could no longer play well from Dynasty onward.
Even during the reunion, Psycho Circus, & Farewell tours his playing was lackluster at best. His timing was off & he had to use triggers on the drum set as he lacked strength in his playing. I like Peter and what he brought to the band but at a certain point he couldn’t play well anymore. It’s as simple as that.
He was awesome on the reunion tour, are you kidding me? He, was the oldest member of them and had arthritis badly, and still was focused and very sound!!!
@@kevinchandler179 Of what relevance is arthritis as an excuse? Either you can play or you can't.
@siberianhusky5874 At 49 years old and the car accidents as well genius, if your going to talk out of your ass, do it somewhere else!!! Catman the best, conversion over
@@SiberianHusky666 Try dealing wih chronic pain and things that impair your physical abilities and see how you feel. Clearly, something is affecting your cognitive abilities.
“Dynasty Tour” I was 7. I was gonna be 8 in 4 more days. Had every album. Knew every song because I listened to every album. I still have that tour book I got that night. Dynasty is great and it’s different. Sometimes looking at your collection I grab Dynasty. Not their best but I do like every song on it.
Love ❤ Kiss w/ Peter Chriss
It's always such a joy to hear a conversation with Peter Criss, not so much Paul or Gene.
I love Peter, but he sold the rights to his likeness back to the band a long time ago which is why he doesn’t get paid anymore.
Okay- I thought it was funny that 2 or the first 3 callers were named Gene and Peter and when they took the last call I thought "oh, it's got to be Paul- and then it WAS! Lol. What are the chances?
Me too, I was surprised he or Eddie didn’t mention that
My favourite cut on Dynasty is Dirty Livin and Hard Times
The whole record is great.
@@MetalSalvation nyes nor a bad track.😍
I especially love Dirty Livin... that song really grew on me.
agreed - dirty livin is a great tune!
WoW; One caller mentioned Jerry Nolan Peters best friend!
In his book Peter seems to insinuate that their friendship ended when Nolan got into heroin ….I read a book on Jerry a few years ago, it was very sad. Him and Thunders, the ultimate rock and roll casualties….
PETER CRISS!! Just that... 👏🏻😎
I just want to applaud Keith 3:24
Love Dynasty and Anton Fig. The fill he does coming out of the solo on Save Your Love completely annihilates anything Petey ever did. Ace 78 was the first taste of what 70s KISS wouldve sounded like if they had a real drummer. Pete is and always was a terrible, terrible drummer. Oddly enough, in 2024 I think next to Bruce he is the most likeable of the bunch.
Psycho City was the last KISS album worth listening to - I wonder why?
Psycho Circus
Wasn't Peter in the process of being "let go" during Dynasty and that's why he wasn't involved as much? He wasn't involved at all in Unmasked. I think he got fired by then, but it wasn't made public. At the end, he was burned out and over it, and it showed in his performance, so they brought in studio drummers.
Paul’s hatred for Peter is why they didn’t play in the RNRHOF. If they could have gotten Ace without Peter, Paul would have jumped on it. But Ace and Peter was a package deal. Paul is …….something
Paul shoulda been the cat!
I love Peter. But if you wanna know how kiss can still use his make up, it’s because Peter sold them the rights to use it.
It's like they sold their birthright. Thanks for standing up to that truth.
So he says he he didn't like the colour change and his heart wasn't in it and that's why he didn't play on Dynasty and unmasked. But he stayed with the band and toured with them. Cmon Peter, don't insult your fans intelligence, Tell the truth for once and the real reason you didn't play which we already know. You were in a car accident and Poncia said you shouldn't play on Dynasty because your hands were injured. And then you purposely tried to sabatoge the last few shows on the tour in 79 by changing the tempo in some songs. Gene, Paul and even your buddy Ace has confirmed this.
Nobody in rock music is an angel. That goes for Gene, Paul, Peter, and Ace. It's even in Peter's book where he had a car accident and had to recuperate during that time. He also describes going to rehab and working to regain his chops for a while. In fairness to all, I would think Peter left Kiss because he was tired and his time to be in the band had passed. I think he just needed to sort himself out and do things at his own pace.
@@Vince_Tasciotti Agreed
I was waiting for someone named Ace to call in...
I always thought a car crash was the reason he didn't/couldn't play on it.
Love Peter Criss, really respect him. Love his Kiss solo album. Very underrated.
The fact that Gene’s solo album is by far the worst is still a fact that makes me smile. Not made one since either has he?!
Yep it’s better than Genes
@@Bop7324 His 2nd solo release was called Asshole & came out in 2004. He did a cover of Prodigy's Firestarter that was horrible.
Peter sold his rights to anything kiss a long time ago whereas ace leases kiss the right to use his likeness making him alot more money.
It really doesn't matter, because as a die hard Peter Criss fan, and he and Ace were founding members as well, why Paul and Gene being greedy assholes, would still let impostors wear their makeup and not give Peter and Ace a percentage??????? Literally, it's ridiculous, and Peter said years ago, he made a mistake with the lawyer he had, and laughed and said he hated dealing with lawyers!!!!!!
No goofball Ace Frehley sold his rights also
🤪🤪
@RoyPage1970 Ace has stated that he owns the makeup and costume, and has leased the rights to the band to use it. He is getting paid for them to use it.
“Each member of KISS had designed his own makeup. Drummer Peter Criss relinquished the rights to his "Catman" character when he left, and Frehley maintains that he licensed his. Ace also claimed in 2014 that he was due to get the rights back soon, a claim Stanley called a "fantasy". "We own it. He sold it", Stanley tweeted back in March 2014 in response to Frehley's comments.
*Back in October 2015, Stanley confirmed that KISS owned the rights to the "Spaceman" and "Catman" characters. Speaking to Australia's 4KQ, Stanley said: "The guys basically sold it off for, you know, not a whole lot, because they didn't think it was worth anything. Quite honestly, I've always thought our image and what we represent is priceless. It didn't matter to some people - it truly matters to me."
DYNASTY is AWESOME! So was the 'Dynasty Tour' (I think it was in '79)!
It was crap…
2- bit abortion says what?@@Billy-Box
Was a fan since the Paul Lynde halloween special and couldn't wait to see them in Milwaukee in 79. Only, the show stunk. A lot of smoke, and Paul Stanley saying how "he;'s got this feeling" about 20 times and a very I just want to get the show over feel to it. I, as a senior in HS, was very disappointed.
Love Peter & Ace, but they made a poor buisness decision as to their rights with their image. Paul & Gene are sharks in the water and see the blood. They took advantage of their financial situations.
KISS were losing money and went through very lean, difficult times in the 90’s (as did most bands from the 80’s). They were broke. Not selling tickets or albums (like they used to). Paul kept KISS alive (Gene had all but abandoned the band for Hollywood). Peter and Ace were more than happy to take their money. Paul was determined to bring the band back from the dead. And now Peter and and are crying about it. They weren’t taken advantage of. It’s call hard work. Lots of it.
PS I meant Ace and Peter at least three or four times those are great cats to hang out with man there's only one ace in Peter folks and that is Ace and Peter Tommy Faker could never fill Aces shoes folks let me ask you this how many guitar players has Tommy Faker influenced I'll wait that's right zero you know how many guitar players ace has influenced one of them happens to be Tommy faker
ace quit tommy took his place? Tommy didn't choose he was hired to play the part. was he supposed to say no to a opportunity of a life time? geez i cant take the job because ill hurt aces feelings. ace blew 15 million and filed bankruptcy he was advised not to sell his interest in the band. he was hired to do the reunion and made millions and still owes the irs 250k. ace was a influence while in kiss unlike other influential guitarist he bitched about his old band for 20 years instead of moving on. i was influenced by ace but wanted to learn more and moved on rather than play the same licks for 40 years. why didn't ace and peter form a band they were half of kiss and supposedly great players? even now ace has a kick ass band that covers his ass. his solo album really? Steve brown was responsible for 95%. now the next excuse ace is old no ace is lazy there's plenty of guitarist his age and they don't screw up songs they've played for 40 years. as far as tommy he's been the guitar player in kiss for 20 years and the one who taught ace how to play his own solos for the reunion tour
@@bobpugliese4428 sorry man I have to disagree with you tell me this what Rockstar hasn't blown all their money
2 ways of approaching the "band" dynamic. It's obvious it was Peter/Ace VS Paul/Gene. Probably not the best situation for either party.
Peter Criss is a Jazz Drummer that was hired after Paul put an ad in the Village Voice, looking for a Drummer. In countless interviews, Peter has Proudly stated that he is a JAZZ DRUMMER. And a Lazy one at that. If it weren't for Ace Frehley or Kiss picking him up from time to time for a Gig or two. Peter would be playing a Snare Drum on a Brooklyn sidewalk for coins.
You are wrong. Peter made it in two different bands. Chelsea and KISS. So that right there proves he was a great drummer and a big influence in music history. Get your facts straight!!!!!
I hear he has some pretty mean "jazz hands" when he gets loaded enough. Eric Singer can't do that!
@@countrygreat8544 How long was he with Chelsea? It has been confirmed by many that Peter is a Whiner in the First Degree.
After the 1978 compilation "Double Platinum" and the 4 solo albums, KISS were pretty much dead to me. And I'll be honest. The only reason I bought the solos was because of the included posters, and not so much the music (with the exception of Ace's contribution).
And YES, I did and do like "Music From The Elder" and "Creatures Of The Night" although I didn't (and never will) recognize them as Kiss albums. Both I somehow see as some kind of glitch in the matrix. No Peter + No Ace = NO KISS!
The golden age of Kiss was the original era with the original members. After they were like a bad Kiss cover band
If New York was its own country it would be bankrupt 😅
ok the music business is a business.its not all fun and games.just because its not fun all the time is no reason to take your ball and go home for pete sakes.
Peter is FOS… he messed up big time!
Peter is an amazing guy.
he is BUT the last Question he didn't answer Honestly, "well there's lawyers & contracts"
when in Fact he SOLD the Rights to his make up for a Large sum of Money at once.
@@MetalHeart8787 Yeah I know. I think he did the best thing for himself at that point.