Same! Had it running at 5ghz, but swapped to 7900x in April. Performance jumped around 0-30% w/ my 3080 at 1440p depending on the game, so it still held up pretty well!
@@Demopans5990 no its not, the i7 8700k is so power hungry that is it is kinda useless and better to go with a old ryzen 3600 way less watt usage and same performance when not even better
@@allxtend4005 In gaming my 8700k wasnt that powerhungry, probably uses a little bit more than my current 7800x3d but that's kind of expected seeing as my 8700k was overclocked and my 7800x3d isnt. It was only powerhungry once you start overclocking it. At stock it would probably use a little bit more than a 3600 while also performing a little bit better. I rarely saw it go over 100 watts even with a OC, Mostly around 60-80 unless you put it under a full stress load.
Thanks to AMD for getting us past 4 cores. I have an old 8700K and 9900K but am firmly on AMD's platforms now and for the foreseeable future. The 8700K was a great CPU though.
And AMD pulled an Intel with Ryzen. You are paying US$300-350 for a glorified low-end 6c R5 x600X. Consider this, AMD release new architecture or new branding with an increased in core count, but keeping the same price. PX4 9600 > P2X6 1090T > FX-8150 were all the same price and had an increased in core count. So what do you expect for Ryzen for US$300? A low-end 6c or a 10c or 12c high-end? Yeah, AMD or rather Evil Su, pulled many Intel stunts.
@@AlfaPro1337 Yeah not even close buddy. AMD didn't make secret back door deals with OEM's to stop Intel from having their chips in the OEM machines. And what Intel stunt are they pulling? Are AMD rehashing the same old architecture over and over again and using marginal gains from node changes in order to justify it? Or do you think that just because core counts are the same between Zen 1, 2, 3, and 4, they're the same thing despite the fact that Zen 2 was a true chiplet design, Zen 3 unified the cache between the core complexes.
@@AlfaPro1337Where are you getting those ryzen 5s for 300 USD? This kind of comment is just done in bad faith, we haven't seen those prices in literally more than a year since they released, they are on Amazon right now for less than half of the price, come on.
@@andersonfrancotabares3614 Did you see the original launch price, plus, you haven't even accounted for e/retail mark-up? It's literally US$300-350 for a glorified low-end 6c.
Well intel that time alway make mass production even xeon with 4c so always rare case near 7th gen xeon 6-12c but not for consumers, today the only one who make entry level 4c is intel with i3 a serious issues market.
@@manueldelbusto725Yeah. Modern games really seem to prioritize cache over clock and core counts. Though, the i7 is probably better for non game multitasking than the 7800x3d.
Yeah CPU improvements are slowing down, if not for AMD doing the 3D V-Cache chips they'd be well behind Intel, and Intel would just be chugging along again like their 4 core era. The fact the 4090 came out nearly 2 years ago and the fastest CPUs still can't always push it at 4k is just concerning to me.
@@ChroniclyBentPipe Intel utilized the 14nm for so many years because of AMD not because of Intel. AMD was producing trash CPU's and nearly went out of business until Ryzen saved them with a hail mary. Intel had no reason to change from the 14nm until Ryzen, the 4 core 8 thread Intel 14nm was King.
@@TKIvanovNearly 4 years after, in fact. The only reason they did not make the node smaller, was because they couldn't, the process of development just kept having issues all the time. Edit: Actually 4 and a half years after the 1st Ryzen launched.
I love your editing. Obviously, the content is great as well, but your channel just has so much personality that nobody else can match. Love your work.
I have an 8700k that runs full time at 4.8ghz. Paired with a 3070ti @1440p, I'm still quite happy with its performance. Its definitely showing its age, especially with the 1% lows in newer titles but Intel really had a winner with this generation.
I ran my 8700K until late last year. I tried to replace it with a 9900K but it was barely an upgrade and didn't fix the performance problems I was having. Ended up replacing Coffeelake entirely with a 7900X3D. It's over twice as fast as the 8700K and 9900K were. Still, if it weren't for emulators the 8700K would have stayed a few more years. I had no problems in actual PC games.
have a 8600k 4.7Ghz,1440p wide +3070, still doing well.....but if i upgrade to recent CPU, i fear the cost of upgrade wont reflect on the fps that much.....
@@po-pi-po You got the deal of a lifetime! That's Insane! I upgraded due to the amazing black Friday deals on the Newegg tiktok shop. Then I sold my 8700k on eBay for $125 lol. So I basically upgraded to a 12700k/z690 ddr4 mobo for $100! Can't beat that
The 8700k was impressive, I had a Ryzen 5 3600 for a few months before getting my 5900X and I was impressed with the 3600, I think overall it was a little slower than an 8700k, but what was crazy is that it was 2 years older. If you had a 1080Ti with an 8700k from late 2017, that machine would have been amazing until recently. I unfortunately didn't wait and got a 7700k which is one of the worst chips Intel has ever sold.
I bought a 8700k at release and continued to use it until 12th gen released. Was a beast of a CPU for many generations and when delidded ran very cool.
@@arcticblast702 I do think running at 5 GHz has its merits, but it probably isn't the most efficient thing in the world. I'd say that currently the greatest limit right now is the lack of hyperthreading, at least for me.
My 8700k has done really well for me in the five years and a bit I've had it - only now is it beginning to show its age a bit in some games like Cyberpunk 2077 v 2.0 and Spiderman especially. Hoping to retire it next year and get at least a 7900X3D (possibly 7950X3D).
Recently delidded and overclocked mine to 4.8 Ghz all-core while keeping temps below 60 degrees. It will serve me a good few more years I think. My system is very close to your test system.
You're right about this platform costing more than it should. I came up on an i7-8700(non-k) and was thinking about doing something with it but the motherboards are too expensive from what I can find.
i wish i got parts from this era when i first got a computer, i was using an i3-2100T from 2020-2021. going from that to a ryzen 5 3600 was insane. but i also went from some 2011 amd graphics card to a rx 570.
I got that at release and paired it with a 2080ti and it's still doing me well even now. Spend more at the time for a proper system and it will last, when I rebuild I again will go in for the top tier and so the cycle repeats.
The 8700K and 8086K were some of the best hexa-cores Intel ever made, multi core performance is a bit lacking but single core was still substantially faster than Ryzen at the time. AMD didn’t quite close the gap until the release of the 3600X, and even then it’s a close call. I remember really wanting to get an 8700K around the time I got a R5 2600, but it wouldn’t have made much of a difference since I was using an RX 580 at that time anyway. I feel like most people still using Coffee Lake i5s or better definitely got their money’s worth, though now with 14th gen SKUs on the horizon, the decision to upgrade will yield a much higher improvement in single & multi core performance
Yeah but 14th gen just a refresh 13th gen which is a refresh of 12th gen a lot of 8th gen users could probably get a 9900k just for an extra 2 cores and hold off till 15th 16th gen
@@josephdias3968 true, but even if single core is only like 10-15% better at best from 12th to 14th gen, the multicore performance has improved considerably. A 12700K was 8P + 4E (12c/20t), whereas the 14700K will be 8P + 12E (20c/28t) with better stock speeds & OC potential. Back in 8th gen, getting just 2 extra cores WAS the upgrade since i7s were 4c/8t the entire time beforehand. I’m not saying that extra cores should be the only reason someone should upgrade, just that as of now the jump from an 8700K to 14700K would add 14 total cores (or 16 threads) which is kinda insane tbh
👍Great video and content Iceberg Tech!! 🏆In 2017... I went from i3 4160 and GTX 760 to i5 8400 and GTX 1070. That platform upgrade was the biggest leap of performance in my modern computer experience by far.
I went from i5-3570k to i7-7700k and it was a decent leap but nothing groundbreaking, really. Should've waited for 8th gen I guess. Well, it felt good going to i5-13600k after the 7700k.
Got myself a 12600k after using a 4690 non-k. The performance difference felt amazing! I'm a hardware enthusiast so I'm eager to try out newer CPUs, but otherwise 12600k would last me for a long while
@@vinylSummer 👍 You picked a good CPU with the 12600k, it is a beast. I went from the i5 8400 to a 9700k and now on a 13700k. I probably would still have a 9900k if I had gotten one at the time. Instead I got the 9700k that I thought "saved" money buying but the 9700k no hyperthreading became an issue. 😀Morale of the story is... only upgrade a CPU when you need it and don't skimp out when you do upgrade your CPU platform.
Damn I just upgraded from 8700k to 7800x3d a week ago. Was really missing modern benchmarks with it. Was 100% the better purchase vs ryzen during that time. My thought was that it would last till the end of am4 platform, at which point ddr5 ram would be out. Feeling like a smartass with how nicely it all clicked lol, even my cpu cooler is compatible with am5 but not the latest lga socket
Sooo the X platform graph at 2:13 is a bit misleading. Because if we looked at Core processors available to them the X58 capped out at 6 cores and so did the X79 platform with the 4960X which was also 6 cores. When it comes to X99 the highest end CPU that was available was the 5960X with 8 cores that was later replaced with a 10 core 6950X. The X299 is again correct when looking at available Core Processors (btw imo this platform was horrendous and i regret every waking moment i chose it over the 8700K)
This cpu worked alongside gtx970, rtx 2070 and now is coupled with rtx 3070ti. Had no problems so far, the only thing that changed is its frequency: 5ghz@1.33v to 4.8ghz@1.28v for less heat and better stability. Amazing cpu.
I have been using my 8086k since launch its currently paired with a 3080 hybrid probably going to rebuild once 15th gen comes out. It's been a beast. The 8086K is a special edition 8700k it was for a 40 year anniversary for the original 8086. It's just a special binned and overclocked cpu
8700K was a kickass chip. I replaced mine with a 9900K which was also a good chip, but the 8700K could match it with an overclock. This meant 9900K was barely an upgrade and didn't give me the boost I was looking for. I should have held onto 8700K longer and not wasted my money on sidegrades. Not that 9900K was slow by any stretch. It's just that 8700K was already so good!
Still running my 8700k in my gaming rig and i don’t really feel pressed to upgrade just yet. Definately saving and thinking about it, but slowly. With frame generation these days you can sqeeze a ton more frames out of older or lower tier tech. Lossless scaling on steam, it’s 6 bucks, works on anything, and you can double your frames in most cases. It’s not a silver bullet but I’m playing Helldivers 2 at 1440p, high settings, at ~90-130 fps (depending on the chaos). 2080 super, 32gigs ram (can’t remember speed). If you get it make sure you look up setup guides. You can’t just turn it on unless some minor settings are changed. Edit: Was getting 60-70fps prior.
Mine has been fantastic at 4.8ghz and I'm only now upgrading to 7800x3d. Having said that the i7800k still runs a lot of games very well at 4k with a rtx7900xtx
6:54 That problem is as old as the game itself. Almost all replays become corrupt after a game update. You can however, start a new match and replace the replay file of that match with the one you want to benchmark. This will work for only one replay and the game must be running while you do this or it won't load the replay. For example, if the corrupt replay file is called "Replay1234" and the newly created file is called "Replay5". What you'll do is open the replay folder make a copy of "Replay5" Rename "Replay1234" to "Replay5" Load "Replay5" from the list.
I'm surprised my man talked about I7 8700k in 2023 (actually my main processor rn), and it's actually still a beast from 2017 and glad I still have the processor paired with Gtx 1660 super, and it's great for 1080p and 1440p gaming.
@@Rainstar_49 No fault of the CPU, Nvidia GPU's nowadays are leaning very heavily on the cpu. If I want an AMD GPU, I will buy one. If I want a NVidia GPU, I will first have to buy a CPU, cos it would be sad if I replace my GPU with a 4090 and get worse frames.
I had upgraded from the non-K 8700 back in Feb to a 5700X. I have that chip in a secondary PC now with a RX 6700(non xt). Still handles things pretty well. Good backup gaming PC.
I bought the i7-8700 non-K almost a year ago and i have a 60hz monitor with plans to upgrade to anything higher than 60hz and I'm glad to know that it will last me a couple more years ... thanks for a great video ❤
still a great chip. i have a system with an 8700k and a gtx 1080 i run to the max every day, been running 5.2ghz stable for years now and smashes everything i throw at it. really need a new gpu though; pc ports have just been so bad since i got this rig and when SLI was officially killed a few years back i sold my second card and downgraded to a 1080p display so i'm definitely lacking in the gpu department but i really just don't have a reason to upgrade my cpu right now. neat video
Intel got their processor stuck with 4 cores even for i7 up until 7th gen. The difference between 7700 and 8700 in multicore performance is huge compared to other generation. Thanks to AMD for their Ryzen lineup, threatening Intel out of their comfort zone.
I have an Intel i5 9600k overclocked at 5.0Ghz and it is still running so great. It actually performs better in games because it can sustain a higher clock speed.
I still rock a 8700k, over clocked to 5ghz and paired with a 3060ti. It always maxes out my 3060ti in every game but MWII since that game is broken on usage for both cpu and gpu. 8700k has handled all my needs for streaming and editing. I don’t see the need for upgrading just yet.
Still running my i7-8086k. 40th anniversary binned 8700k, still cranks everything I need it to but I’m considering delidding for direct die cooling to see how much performance I’ve been leaving on the table.
Im still rocking my i7 8700k from 2017 and still do a great job i delided mine 2 years ago and oc it to 5ghz 1.37v and run a 60c paired with a rtx 3080 at 1440p and it dise the job
Iceberg Tech : back in November of 2017 this i7 8700K was a 100 % completely a paper launch....not being available until April of 2018. Before that you simply couldn't get it anywhere in any store on the planet. So in real world it's a 2018 CPU.
i still have my 8086k (which is just a high binned 8700 iirc). its running a debian install and has the glorious task of babysitting a 3d printer and running some electronics test gear.
My roommate got his hands on an AMD Ryzen 5 1600X brand new in 2017 in a giveaway. He bought a motherboard and 16GB of G.Skill 3600MHz DDR4 RAM, a Zotac GTX 1070 and a few other bits, I bought his Intel Core i5 3570K and Radeon R9 290 machine from him. At one point he was updating BIOS every few days. By the time I got my hands on the that machine, he upgraded to a Ryzen 9 3950X and RTX 2080 Super. TL;DR: When the BIOS was good and figured out on the early Ryzen processors, they were great bang for the buck. I now have a Ryzen 5 5600X feeding my roommate's old RTX 2080 Super, and I am EXTREMELY happy with the performance of my machine, all on one socket.... Yes, I am currently still locked in at PCI-E Gen. 3, but that is fine, I am happy with the performance of my machine in my most demanding of games and the visuals, without cheating by using gimmicks like FSR or DLSS, and RT really doesn't mean much to me still. I am blown away what AMD has done with a single socket and how much they lit a fire under Intel again after so long.
I still have an 15-8600k OC'ed to 5ghz. I went for the i5 because at the time some of the games I was playing (mainly Bethesda games) had issues with hyper threading and it was recommended to disable that at the BIOS if your CPU had it, so it made more sense to me to get the cheaper i5 CPU that doesn't have hyper threading out of the box.
weird timing on this video because i just recently picked this up used for almost free! I haven't stopped talking about this because the deal was crazy and so yeah now i have a well capable 2nd pc. I was planning on building a small itx build but this came up and ill take it. The deal I got was a whole setup i7 8700k, gtx 1080, 16gb ram 3000mhz, evga 650w br, 256gb wd green ssd sata, 2tb hdd, small cooler, corsair carbide air case, 1440p 165hz dell monitor, finalmouse capetown (sold it for $100), razer chronos keyboard thingy, razer rgb mousepad, 2tb portable harddrive, for $130
basically $30 pc was insane after that i case swapped it since my friend upgraded his case and was going to throw it out but i decided to keep it (its an ok case better looking but airflow ehh iffy) and he also left his be quiet rock 2 rgx cpu cooler which i am using for this build since i dont want to use the original small 120mm air cooler thing loop.
I considered using it for this, but I decided to get the Z370 as it was a pretty reasonable deal at under £90. I’m not sure how well my Asrock Z270M would handle higher core count CPUs, either.
@@IcebergTech you could either way make a video about it for those that still don't want to spend money on some old chipset motherboard because Intel says "yOU mUSt bUy A zEE390 FoR 8tH aND nInEtH gEn"
I have the binned version of this the 8086k and I custom looped water cool it and churned it to 5ghz (240 + 480mm rad was the way to go during that time) and paired with 1080ti was the best gaming pc during that time, mainly witcher 3 and overwatch competitive could always hit way above monitor limit, however with newer game releases like cyberpunk i wasn't hitting the fps I was hoping for so I decided to dropped a custom water blocked 3090 and turned up the clock speed but then I realize it is not hitting the full potential of the 3090 from the severely bottlenecked cpu, upgraded to a B-Die 4000mhz 14cl (down clocked to 3700mhz again due to cpu limit) ram only yielded 10 fps in The Finals, I am now stuck in a situation where the I'd have to go through all this custom loop modifications to get to upgrading the cpu and motherboard.
Still using one with MCE enabled and a 3080 slotted beneath it. Works like a charm for 1440p gaming even in 2023. Be it high refresrate sim racing or playable ray tracing in cyberpunk, the 8700k does it all
I used Intel HEDT with the 920, 3930k, and 5820k, all the way until the 8700k. Was a good cpu, unfortunately it ran hot AF. I tried delidding it but the tool I used was slightly off on tolerances and ruined it. After that I switched the AMD and have been using them ever since.
Im still running one of the oldest 6 core i7s... The 6850k, I use it for editing and it is starting to show its age. I am waiting for intels raptor lake refresh launch to make a final decision on what cpu I am getting.
I’m going to upgrade mine when the 15th gen comes out the performance from 14th gen and 15th gen is suppose to be big since 14th gen was the refresh of 13th gen. I can only imagine the improvement from i7 8700k to a 15700k
I bought the 8700k in march 2018, it was my first Intel : ) I upgraded to a 13700KF in February of this year but my 8700K is in a different case now for my nephew to use when I babysit him and he wants to play Minecraft together : )
I didn't get the 5th through 9th gen intel cpu's. I couldn't afford them. I was rocking a 4th gen non overclockable i5 back then coupled with a 1060. It was a rock solid performer for the time. Played every game I threw at it. I had finally made the upgrade to AMD with second gen Ryzen. That was a game changer. I didn't need it but I wanted to support AMD's cpu platform. These days I am rocking a i9 12900k with 4070. I don't see a reason to upgrade for quite some time.
What a great great Video!!! Love it as an PC Nerd since 1993. My whole Confirmation Money was spend for the First PC, a Pentium 90 which was the best CPU Intel had to offer. Had the Time of my Live with Games like Doom, Dark Forces and Wing Commander 3.
Still rocking the i7 8700K (well 8086K). Still using to this day, I could upgrade to a newer platform but I browse mostly nowadays and play games casually at 1080p with RTX 3060.
I built my first PC right when first gen Ryzen came out and ended up going with a 1700 (after the initial kinks were worked out and the price dropped a bit). Overall, still very satisfied with that decision considering what I could have gotten for the same price from intel. The games where the extra cores helped ran great, and the games where the extra cores didn't help it was still okay (managed to get all but two games to run perfectly fine at 100+fps which is enough for me, and the two games that didn't work that well REALLY didn't work that well, to the point where even if intel gave me twice as much fps that still would have only been around 30-40 lol). Recently(ish) upgraded to a 5800X, still quite happy with AMD.
Okay, so regarding the context here, this is one of my favorite CPUs, not going to lie; I still root for it to this day. If you can find a decent deal used, go ahead. However, it is superseded by its younger, less core-heavy cousins, such as the i3 12100. So, if you're browsing for something newer, that seems to be the one, or the AMD cousin, Ryzen 5 5600, which is somewhat similar in price and sometimes outperforms it. This is if you want something more core-heavy but newer that still packs a punch, or the i5 12400. But the 8700k CPU will forever hold a place in my heart, nevertheless.
the r5 5600x melts the 8700k. there is no contest between the two and the r5 pulls less watts aswell. and on the used market costs half the price of a 8700k.
The XEON W-2135 is only $25 right now, its a Socket 2066 with 1MB Level 2 Cache per core. Skylake based. 6 core 12 thread. If you can score a Lenovo P520 or P520C motherboard in the $40-80 range (use a $2-$6 14-pin to 24-pin adapter from Amazon or AliExpress) it is serious bang for buck. Also 48 lanes PCIe direct from the CPU. 2x NVMe 2x full x16 and a x8. The second x16 supports those bifurcation adapters, so another 4 full NVMe is possible. Can put graphics in the lower slot for better thermals too. The 8700 is the best processor from the 8th and 9th gen. Hyperthreading/clocks. Best all round. The 9th gen had nothing comparable. Had to wait for 10th gen for another 6 core 12 thread.
Sounds good! Alas, over here the P520 boards cost as much as a whole P520. I have got my eye out for a deal on one though, looking for one for my next console killer video!
today shoped a 2nd hand i7 8700k, gigabyte z370p d3, case, PSU, quadro k2200 and a whopping 64gb ddr4 3000 for 140€. so time to rewatch that video ;-) still unsure what GPU to go with that flip. gpu used market is currently pretty bad for buyers. here in berlin
In my living room, I put my desktop there that still rocks connected to my 70 inch Samsung TV. MY desktop hosts my i7 8700k with my Nvidia 1080 Ti, 2 TB SSD, and 64 Gigs of ram. And with Nvidia's upscale update on their older GPUs I can still run every game old and new at min 60 fps and up to 100 plus fps at 1440p. I love this desktop and will never get rid of it. In my work room, I have the i7 13th series and an Nvidia 3080, 2 TB SSD, and 32 gigs of rams. AND, I'm pretty satisfied with it although I wanted the 3080 Ti but at the time I couldn't find any. Now this desktop runs everything extremely well.
honestly u could replace the 1080ti with a 2080ti for like 200 bucks and get the rtx benefits and u can sell the 1080ti and pay just like 100 bucks extra
It came with my GPU and now it's a punishment for my purchase just staring at me in my Steam library. I knew it was bad when the recommended settings were medium at 60% resolution scale (1440p) on my current 3070 Ti.
I still have my 8700k. It's in backup system with my old (recently resurrected) Vega 64. I use it primarily as a test bed. Got it in 2017 primarily for gaming, but oddly enough, I never really used it for that. Just lost interest in gaming around this time so it's used primarily for streaming and video playback. Yeah, I know. wasted.
Yeah, prices on ebay for i7's are crazy with the i7-8700k being more than a ryzen 5600x brand new. Might be worth piking up as a combo with a motherboard and ram if it can be found for a reasonable proce.
i use i7-8700k@4700 mhz (1.344v), ring bus 4500 mhz (very wooden unsuccessful processor) + 2x16gb Ballistix E-die OC to 3466 mhz (bad motherboard), timings 14-18-18-36 CR1 + second/tertiary timings. works quite well with smooth frametime in games. but very hot: 4.8 ghz 1.380v 190w in LinX, 97-99°C. 4.7@1.332-1.344v in LinX 0.6.5 170w energy consumption, 90°C. cpu is dellided, liquid metal, polished Thermalright Macho.
that has to be a bad motherboard causing issues with cpu overclock I got mine to 4.8 on a deepcool gammax 300 cooler 😂 I have aorus gaming 5 and Dint change any settings
Great to see that an older cpu from 6 years ago is still more than capable of handling even the most demanding of games without too much effort. Paired together with a decent GPU and any owner of one will have no issue enjoying said games.
In the fall last year bought locally a used 8th gen i7-8700 (Non K) & Asus ROG Strix Z390-E motherboard for just $50 US dollars. Then during the time finding GPU's at a good price was like finding a needle in a haystack. I ended up buying locally a used EVGA GTX 1080 SC 8GB for $50 US dollars. When I bought the CPU & motherboard I ended up buying a 32GB kit of DDR4 memory. Cause the system I was using before used DDR3 memory. Before I bought the i7-8700 processor and motherboard back in fall of 2022. I been using the AMD FX 8320 since it was released back in the fall of 2012 so I used that for 10 years. I game at 1080p which the i7-8700 with EVGA GTX 1080 SC 8GB is more then capable of playing the games I play. Playing BDO at remastered got no problem getting around 80 fps and getting around 80 fps while playing ESO at Ultra. Would I like to build a complete new desktop with the newest hardware heck yea. But I don't have the extra funds to build a complete new system with the newest hardware. Would love to get a i9-9900K processor if it was cheap but course those are around $260 US dollars on the used market. lol
still using my ryzen 5 1600 which i bought for £130 new in 2018 after 2000 series came out - also a 2017 6 core cpu, and its great. game requirements are quickly increasing though so i might have to upgrade eventually but for now its still perfectly fine for my use and will be for the next few years. im sure the i7 8700 is probably doing better then my 1600 tho because of better single core performance and clock speed but this generation of cpus are still perfectly fine
I have an i3 8350k @ 4.8ghz+ and its quite solid for the older games. Games play fine apart from a few Pubg to name one but others like apex legends are 120fps-300 in closed areas. The only thing that lets this CPU down is the core count. I'm really sure if i3 had 6 cores it would still be crushing games. 6 Cores for 2023 will get you by but ideally you want something with 8 cores now or more. This is only applies if you like playing the latest games.
Those 6 core chips in 2017-2020 were about futute proofing. Now in the past couple of years games are finally using more cores even old Xeons are benefitting from modern game development finally catching up to their high core count. Though theyre at a disadvantage with their lower clock speed.
I'm surprised the i7 8700k came out so long ago. I remember when ltt had just reviewed it and how awesome of a chip it was. What a beast.
I only remember watching streamers use it when it came out and seeing their dropped frames because it somehow still wasn't enough.
hmmm i don't know... 2016 to 2017 still sometimes feels for me it was like yesterday.
@@fpshooterful I feel the same sometimes, 2015 was a golden year for me and it's still weird to think it was already 8 years ago.
@@skorpers streaming is quite intensive on a cpu so that doesn't surprise me tbh.
I was just thinking about this CPU i would like to see and 8700k vs 9700k video I would think the 8700k aged better
I retired my 8700k recently for a 7800x3d. Had a good 6 year run but this year cpu demands got alot rougher. the 1% lows improved immensely.
Even then, it is still good for a home mini server.
Same! Had it running at 5ghz, but swapped to 7900x in April. Performance jumped around 0-30% w/ my 3080 at 1440p depending on the game, so it still held up pretty well!
Did exactly the same this spring.
@@Demopans5990 no its not, the i7 8700k is so power hungry that is it is kinda useless and better to go with a old ryzen 3600 way less watt usage and same performance when not even better
@@allxtend4005 In gaming my 8700k wasnt that powerhungry, probably uses a little bit more than my current 7800x3d but that's kind of expected seeing as my 8700k was overclocked and my 7800x3d isnt. It was only powerhungry once you start overclocking it. At stock it would probably use a little bit more than a 3600 while also performing a little bit better. I rarely saw it go over 100 watts even with a OC, Mostly around 60-80 unless you put it under a full stress load.
Thanks to AMD for getting us past 4 cores. I have an old 8700K and 9900K but am firmly on AMD's platforms now and for the foreseeable future. The 8700K was a great CPU though.
And AMD pulled an Intel with Ryzen.
You are paying US$300-350 for a glorified low-end 6c R5 x600X.
Consider this, AMD release new architecture or new branding with an increased in core count, but keeping the same price.
PX4 9600 > P2X6 1090T > FX-8150 were all the same price and had an increased in core count. So what do you expect for Ryzen for US$300? A low-end 6c or a 10c or 12c high-end?
Yeah, AMD or rather Evil Su, pulled many Intel stunts.
@@AlfaPro1337 Yeah not even close buddy. AMD didn't make secret back door deals with OEM's to stop Intel from having their chips in the OEM machines.
And what Intel stunt are they pulling? Are AMD rehashing the same old architecture over and over again and using marginal gains from node changes in order to justify it? Or do you think that just because core counts are the same between Zen 1, 2, 3, and 4, they're the same thing despite the fact that Zen 2 was a true chiplet design, Zen 3 unified the cache between the core complexes.
@@AlfaPro1337Where are you getting those ryzen 5s for 300 USD?
This kind of comment is just done in bad faith, we haven't seen those prices in literally more than a year since they released, they are on Amazon right now for less than half of the price, come on.
@@andersonfrancotabares3614 Did you see the original launch price, plus, you haven't even accounted for e/retail mark-up?
It's literally US$300-350 for a glorified low-end 6c.
Well intel that time alway make mass production even xeon with 4c so always rare case near 7th gen xeon 6-12c but not for consumers, today the only one who make entry level 4c is intel with i3 a serious issues market.
Upgraded from an i7-8700K to an i7-12700K and was expecting more improvement in games than I got. The old coffee lake was just that good.
should have gotten a X3D ryzen chip
@@manueldelbusto725Yeah. Modern games really seem to prioritize cache over clock and core counts. Though, the i7 is probably better for non game multitasking than the 7800x3d.
Yeah CPU improvements are slowing down, if not for AMD doing the 3D V-Cache chips they'd be well behind Intel, and Intel would just be chugging along again like their 4 core era. The fact the 4090 came out nearly 2 years ago and the fastest CPUs still can't always push it at 4k is just concerning to me.
As much as we like to meme on 14+++++++++++++++++++, props to Intel for being able to stay relatively competitive with it for so long.
Fr they milked that 14nm for all it's worth. It's honestly quite amazing they managed to stay pretty competitive for so long on 14nm.
@@ChroniclyBentPipe Intel utilized the 14nm for so many years because of AMD not because of Intel.
AMD was producing trash CPU's and nearly went out of business until Ryzen saved them with a hail mary.
Intel had no reason to change from the 14nm until Ryzen, the 4 core 8 thread Intel 14nm was King.
@auntiepha8343 14nm continued long after ryzen was introduced.
@@TKIvanovNearly 4 years after, in fact. The only reason they did not make the node smaller, was because they couldn't, the process of development just kept having issues all the time.
Edit: Actually 4 and a half years after the 1st Ryzen launched.
And AMD or rather Evil Su, pulled many Intel stunts.
Now, it's just Zen+++++++++++++++++. They have no good engineers.
8700K and 1080Ti were way ahead of their time.
and I am still on a AMD FX-8370 with GTX 960
Basically the meta combo?
I'm still rocking my combo!
I got that combo it’s pretty good!
here aswell same combo an still rocking
I love your editing. Obviously, the content is great as well, but your channel just has so much personality that nobody else can match. Love your work.
Still rocking my old 8700k. I want to upgrade but at this point it makes sense to wait for the next release cycle.
What and when will be released? Im on your same boat mate!
no need to upgrade for a few good years, this CPU even supports Windows 11
Same
This channel deserves so many more subscribers. Good job mate, keep it coming.
I have an 8700k that runs full time at 4.8ghz. Paired with a 3070ti @1440p, I'm still quite happy with its performance. Its definitely showing its age, especially with the 1% lows in newer titles but Intel really had a winner with this generation.
I ran my 8700K until late last year. I tried to replace it with a 9900K but it was barely an upgrade and didn't fix the performance problems I was having. Ended up replacing Coffeelake entirely with a 7900X3D. It's over twice as fast as the 8700K and 9900K were. Still, if it weren't for emulators the 8700K would have stayed a few more years. I had no problems in actual PC games.
have a 8600k 4.7Ghz,1440p wide +3070, still doing well.....but if i upgrade to recent CPU, i fear the cost of upgrade wont reflect on the fps that much.....
recently upgraded to 13600k and I have kept my 64GB DDR4 3600 set. ~$200 upgrade (bought used mobo+cpu)
@@po-pi-po You got the deal of a lifetime! That's Insane! I upgraded due to the amazing black Friday deals on the Newegg tiktok shop. Then I sold my 8700k on eBay for $125 lol. So I basically upgraded to a 12700k/z690 ddr4 mobo for $100! Can't beat that
The 8700k was impressive, I had a Ryzen 5 3600 for a few months before getting my 5900X and I was impressed with the 3600, I think overall it was a little slower than an 8700k, but what was crazy is that it was 2 years older. If you had a 1080Ti with an 8700k from late 2017, that machine would have been amazing until recently. I unfortunately didn't wait and got a 7700k which is one of the worst chips Intel has ever sold.
Always wanted to get one of those! Interesting to see how it still fairs in today’s games!
I bought a 8700k at release and continued to use it until 12th gen released. Was a beast of a CPU for many generations and when delidded ran very cool.
I loved my 8700k, it was a golden sample,delided and copper topped. It ran OC'd at 5.4ghz rock steady. Such a great chip.
What volt did you run ?😁
Truly a golden sample
I can't even run 5,2 GHz all-core with the 9600K
@@tomppeli.i have an 8086k that can’t even run at 5 ghz safely
Edit: damn shame really cuz I’m too poor to upgrade and I lost the lottery
@@arcticblast702 I do think running at 5 GHz has its merits, but it probably isn't the most efficient thing in the world. I'd say that currently the greatest limit right now is the lack of hyperthreading, at least for me.
bullshit. maybe in games only. mine crashes at 4,8ghz at 1.28v sometimes.
My 8700k has done really well for me in the five years and a bit I've had it - only now is it beginning to show its age a bit in some games like Cyberpunk 2077 v 2.0 and Spiderman especially. Hoping to retire it next year and get at least a 7900X3D (possibly 7950X3D).
Recently delidded and overclocked mine to 4.8 Ghz all-core while keeping temps below 60 degrees. It will serve me a good few more years I think. My system is very close to your test system.
Still running 8700K OC to 4.8 @1.285v, playing at 4K with RTX 3090, still running great.
Same here, i7 8700k oc 4.7 1.27v with rtx 3080ti at 1440p.
The i7 8700k is still a fast cpu and has no reason to be replaced yet it's got a few more years to go at minimum
today i will upgrade my 8700k to an i3 12100f
You're right about this platform costing more than it should. I came up on an i7-8700(non-k) and was thinking about doing something with it but the motherboards are too expensive from what I can find.
The cheapest I have seen compatible motherboards is 50 us bucks for I think a H310. Unless you're willing to go with a Q370 dell board for 45ish.
i wish i got parts from this era when i first got a computer, i was using an i3-2100T from 2020-2021. going from that to a ryzen 5 3600 was insane. but i also went from some 2011 amd graphics card to a rx 570.
I got that at release and paired it with a 2080ti and it's still doing me well even now. Spend more at the time for a proper system and it will last, when I rebuild I again will go in for the top tier and so the cycle repeats.
The 8700K and 8086K were some of the best hexa-cores Intel ever made, multi core performance is a bit lacking but single core was still substantially faster than Ryzen at the time. AMD didn’t quite close the gap until the release of the 3600X, and even then it’s a close call. I remember really wanting to get an 8700K around the time I got a R5 2600, but it wouldn’t have made much of a difference since I was using an RX 580 at that time anyway. I feel like most people still using Coffee Lake i5s or better definitely got their money’s worth, though now with 14th gen SKUs on the horizon, the decision to upgrade will yield a much higher improvement in single & multi core performance
Yeah but 14th gen just a refresh 13th gen which is a refresh of 12th gen a lot of 8th gen users could probably get a 9900k just for an extra 2 cores and hold off till 15th 16th gen
@@josephdias3968 true, but even if single core is only like 10-15% better at best from 12th to 14th gen, the multicore performance has improved considerably. A 12700K was 8P + 4E (12c/20t), whereas the 14700K will be 8P + 12E (20c/28t) with better stock speeds & OC potential. Back in 8th gen, getting just 2 extra cores WAS the upgrade since i7s were 4c/8t the entire time beforehand. I’m not saying that extra cores should be the only reason someone should upgrade, just that as of now the jump from an 8700K to 14700K would add 14 total cores (or 16 threads) which is kinda insane tbh
Intel is still crushing in single threaded, but at a cost
Still running the 8700K in my main system. Does well in 1080p ultrawide with a Titan Xp.
Back in 2018, the i7-8700K and GTX 1080 Ti was such a beast of a combo
I still got that combo lol im gonna upgrade soon 😂 time to retire it
👍Great video and content Iceberg Tech!! 🏆In 2017... I went from i3 4160 and GTX 760 to i5 8400 and GTX 1070.
That platform upgrade was the biggest leap of performance in my modern computer experience by far.
With a build like that you can still play many modern games today!
I went from i5-3570k to i7-7700k and it was a decent leap but nothing groundbreaking, really. Should've waited for 8th gen I guess.
Well, it felt good going to i5-13600k after the 7700k.
Im still running an i5 8400
Got myself a 12600k after using a 4690 non-k. The performance difference felt amazing! I'm a hardware enthusiast so I'm eager to try out newer CPUs, but otherwise 12600k would last me for a long while
@@vinylSummer 👍 You picked a good CPU with the 12600k, it is a beast. I went from the i5 8400 to a 9700k and now on a 13700k. I probably would still have a 9900k if I had gotten one at the time. Instead I got the 9700k that I thought "saved" money buying but the 9700k no hyperthreading became an issue. 😀Morale of the story is... only upgrade a CPU when you need it and don't skimp out when you do upgrade your CPU platform.
I eagerly wait, daily, for the 6900XT performance with a legacy cpu.
Unless things change, October may be your month 😉
I have a 6900xt and 9900k. Kinda a weird experience
@@tannermartin60949900K is not that legacy. I was thinking of those old I3 or celerons.
Perfect timing. This video makes me miss those old days. Great times.
I'm still daily driving this thing! You calling me old?
it's good to know that I can keep using my 8700k and miss out on no modern game, if they ever make a good modern game again that is.
Damn I just upgraded from 8700k to 7800x3d a week ago. Was really missing modern benchmarks with it. Was 100% the better purchase vs ryzen during that time. My thought was that it would last till the end of am4 platform, at which point ddr5 ram would be out. Feeling like a smartass with how nicely it all clicked lol, even my cpu cooler is compatible with am5 but not the latest lga socket
I still have my i7 8086k at 5Ghz and it still works great coupled with a 2080ti. Only on the next big upgrade i would upgrade it as well
Sooo the X platform graph at 2:13 is a bit misleading. Because if we looked at Core processors available to them the X58 capped out at 6 cores and so did the X79 platform with the 4960X which was also 6 cores. When it comes to X99 the highest end CPU that was available was the 5960X with 8 cores that was later replaced with a 10 core 6950X. The X299 is again correct when looking at available Core Processors (btw imo this platform was horrendous and i regret every waking moment i chose it over the 8700K)
This cpu worked alongside gtx970, rtx 2070 and now is coupled with rtx 3070ti. Had no problems so far, the only thing that changed is its frequency: 5ghz@1.33v to 4.8ghz@1.28v for less heat and better stability. Amazing cpu.
I have been using my 8086k since launch its currently paired with a 3080 hybrid probably going to rebuild once 15th gen comes out. It's been a beast. The 8086K is a special edition 8700k it was for a 40 year anniversary for the original 8086. It's just a special binned and overclocked cpu
8700K was a kickass chip. I replaced mine with a 9900K which was also a good chip, but the 8700K could match it with an overclock. This meant 9900K was barely an upgrade and didn't give me the boost I was looking for. I should have held onto 8700K longer and not wasted my money on sidegrades. Not that 9900K was slow by any stretch. It's just that 8700K was already so good!
Still running my 8700k in my gaming rig and i don’t really feel pressed to upgrade just yet. Definately saving and thinking about it, but slowly. With frame generation these days you can sqeeze a ton more frames out of older or lower tier tech. Lossless scaling on steam, it’s 6 bucks, works on anything, and you can double your frames in most cases. It’s not a silver bullet but I’m playing Helldivers 2 at 1440p, high settings, at ~90-130 fps (depending on the chaos). 2080 super, 32gigs ram (can’t remember speed). If you get it make sure you look up setup guides. You can’t just turn it on unless some minor settings are changed.
Edit: Was getting 60-70fps prior.
Would you say it's worth upgrading from i3 8100 to i7 8700 in the meantime instead of getting new mb ram and stuff also have a rx 6600
Mine has been fantastic at 4.8ghz and I'm only now upgrading to 7800x3d. Having said that the i7800k still runs a lot of games very well at 4k with a rtx7900xtx
I7800k wtf!?!? Lol
I feel like I did really well buying AM4, I put a 5800x3D in the board recently and it’s phenomenal! AM5 buyers are going to do REALLY well IMO.
when I will finally upgrade my AMD FX-8370 system, I will go for AM5
6:54 That problem is as old as the game itself. Almost all replays become corrupt after a game update. You can however, start a new match and replace the replay file of that match with the one you want to benchmark. This will work for only one replay and the game must be running while you do this or it won't load the replay.
For example, if the corrupt replay file is called "Replay1234" and the newly created file is called "Replay5". What you'll do is
open the replay folder
make a copy of "Replay5"
Rename "Replay1234" to "Replay5"
Load "Replay5" from the list.
I'm surprised my man talked about I7 8700k in 2023 (actually my main processor rn), and it's actually still a beast from 2017 and glad I still have the processor paired with Gtx 1660 super, and it's great for 1080p and 1440p gaming.
it's a beast cos it is running a gpu that doesnt require nvidia software scheduling.
Put a 4090 on this cpu and watch it die.
@@Hjominbonrun yep that's just violation but damn ye
@@Rainstar_49 No fault of the CPU, Nvidia GPU's nowadays are leaning very heavily on the cpu.
If I want an AMD GPU, I will buy one.
If I want a NVidia GPU, I will first have to buy a CPU, cos it would be sad if I replace my GPU with a 4090 and get worse frames.
@@Hjominbonrun makes sense for new Nvidia GPUs rn
Grab a used rx 5700xt or 6800... 1660 super ..... lol
I had upgraded from the non-K 8700 back in Feb to a 5700X. I have that chip in a secondary PC now with a RX 6700(non xt). Still handles things pretty well. Good backup gaming PC.
I bought the i7-8700 non-K almost a year ago and i have a 60hz monitor with plans to upgrade to anything higher than 60hz and I'm glad to know that it will last me a couple more years ... thanks for a great video ❤
still a great chip. i have a system with an 8700k and a gtx 1080 i run to the max every day, been running 5.2ghz stable for years now and smashes everything i throw at it. really need a new gpu though; pc ports have just been so bad since i got this rig and when SLI was officially killed a few years back i sold my second card and downgraded to a 1080p display so i'm definitely lacking in the gpu department but i really just don't have a reason to upgrade my cpu right now. neat video
Intel got their processor stuck with 4 cores even for i7 up until 7th gen. The difference between 7700 and 8700 in multicore performance is huge compared to other generation. Thanks to AMD for their Ryzen lineup, threatening Intel out of their comfort zone.
I have an Intel i5 9600k overclocked at 5.0Ghz and it is still running so great. It actually performs better in games because it can sustain a higher clock speed.
I still rock a 8700k, over clocked to 5ghz and paired with a 3060ti. It always maxes out my 3060ti in every game but MWII since that game is broken on usage for both cpu and gpu. 8700k has handled all my needs for streaming and editing. I don’t see the need for upgrading just yet.
Still running my i7-8086k. 40th anniversary binned 8700k, still cranks everything I need it to but I’m considering delidding for direct die cooling to see how much performance I’ve been leaving on the table.
Im still rocking my i7 8700k from 2017 and still do a great job i delided mine 2 years ago and oc it to 5ghz 1.37v and run a 60c paired with a rtx 3080 at 1440p and it dise the job
Iceberg Tech : back in November of 2017 this i7 8700K was a 100 % completely a paper launch....not being available until April of 2018. Before that you simply couldn't get it anywhere in any store on the planet. So in real world it's a 2018 CPU.
i still have my 8086k (which is just a high binned 8700 iirc). its running a debian install and has the glorious task of babysitting a 3d printer and running some electronics test gear.
My roommate got his hands on an AMD Ryzen 5 1600X brand new in 2017 in a giveaway. He bought a motherboard and 16GB of G.Skill 3600MHz DDR4 RAM, a Zotac GTX 1070 and a few other bits, I bought his Intel Core i5 3570K and Radeon R9 290 machine from him. At one point he was updating BIOS every few days. By the time I got my hands on the that machine, he upgraded to a Ryzen 9 3950X and RTX 2080 Super. TL;DR: When the BIOS was good and figured out on the early Ryzen processors, they were great bang for the buck. I now have a Ryzen 5 5600X feeding my roommate's old RTX 2080 Super, and I am EXTREMELY happy with the performance of my machine, all on one socket.... Yes, I am currently still locked in at PCI-E Gen. 3, but that is fine, I am happy with the performance of my machine in my most demanding of games and the visuals, without cheating by using gimmicks like FSR or DLSS, and RT really doesn't mean much to me still. I am blown away what AMD has done with a single socket and how much they lit a fire under Intel again after so long.
Awesome as always. Keep up the great work. Take care
I still rock a 8700k today in 2023. Seems to be a great chip for gaming in 2023 paired with a 6700xt
I still have an 15-8600k OC'ed to 5ghz. I went for the i5 because at the time some of the games I was playing (mainly Bethesda games) had issues with hyper threading and it was recommended to disable that at the BIOS if your CPU had it, so it made more sense to me to get the cheaper i5 CPU that doesn't have hyper threading out of the box.
weird timing on this video because i just recently picked this up used for almost free! I haven't stopped talking about this because the deal was crazy and so yeah now i have a well capable 2nd pc. I was planning on building a small itx build but this came up and ill take it. The deal I got was a whole setup i7 8700k, gtx 1080, 16gb ram 3000mhz, evga 650w br, 256gb wd green ssd sata, 2tb hdd, small cooler, corsair carbide air case, 1440p 165hz dell monitor, finalmouse capetown (sold it for $100), razer chronos keyboard thingy, razer rgb mousepad, 2tb portable harddrive, for $130
basically $30 pc was insane after that i case swapped it since my friend upgraded his case and was going to throw it out but i decided to keep it (its an ok case better looking but airflow ehh iffy) and he also left his be quiet rock 2 rgx cpu cooler which i am using for this build since i dont want to use the original small 120mm air cooler thing loop.
wait how am i not subscribed... ive been a big fan for so long thats wild. Great video tho as always.
Remembering this, you should make a video about CoffeeTime
I considered using it for this, but I decided to get the Z370 as it was a pretty reasonable deal at under £90. I’m not sure how well my Asrock Z270M would handle higher core count CPUs, either.
@@IcebergTech you could either way make a video about it for those that still don't want to spend money on some old chipset motherboard because Intel says "yOU mUSt bUy A zEE390 FoR 8tH aND nInEtH gEn"
8700k ( 5 GHz ) + 4070 Ti
I have a great CPU bottleneck but still can enjoy high end games.❤
I have the binned version of this the 8086k and I custom looped water cool it and churned it to 5ghz (240 + 480mm rad was the way to go during that time) and paired with 1080ti was the best gaming pc during that time, mainly witcher 3 and overwatch competitive could always hit way above monitor limit, however with newer game releases like cyberpunk i wasn't hitting the fps I was hoping for so I decided to dropped a custom water blocked 3090 and turned up the clock speed but then I realize it is not hitting the full potential of the 3090 from the severely bottlenecked cpu, upgraded to a B-Die 4000mhz 14cl (down clocked to 3700mhz again due to cpu limit) ram only yielded 10 fps in The Finals, I am now stuck in a situation where the I'd have to go through all this custom loop modifications to get to upgrading the cpu and motherboard.
Still using one with MCE enabled and a 3080 slotted beneath it.
Works like a charm for 1440p gaming even in 2023.
Be it high refresrate sim racing or playable ray tracing in cyberpunk, the 8700k does it all
I used Intel HEDT with the 920, 3930k, and 5820k, all the way until the 8700k. Was a good cpu, unfortunately it ran hot AF. I tried delidding it but the tool I used was slightly off on tolerances and ruined it. After that I switched the AMD and have been using them ever since.
Love the series, keep up the good work!! Perfect for those who's thinking of buying second hand CPU's that are actually still relevant
Im still running one of the oldest 6 core i7s... The 6850k, I use it for editing and it is starting to show its age. I am waiting for intels raptor lake refresh launch to make a final decision on what cpu I am getting.
My first processor review published was the 8700k. It's still linked on intels product page for the 8700k
I’m going to upgrade mine when the 15th gen comes out the performance from 14th gen and 15th gen is suppose to be big since 14th gen was the refresh of 13th gen. I can only imagine the improvement from i7 8700k to a 15700k
I'm still running my 8700k with an 1080ti, 5 years ago it was a monster of a pc, now still keeps up but it's starting o struggle.
I bought the 8700k in march 2018, it was my first Intel : )
I upgraded to a 13700KF in February of this year but my 8700K is in a different case now for my nephew to use when I babysit him and he wants to play Minecraft together : )
Hey, it's my CPU! Great work as always, Iceberg!
i kept my 8700k and 1080ti FTW3 in my hardware collection to this day
I didn't get the 5th through 9th gen intel cpu's. I couldn't afford them. I was rocking a 4th gen non overclockable i5 back then coupled with a 1060. It was a rock solid performer for the time. Played every game I threw at it. I had finally made the upgrade to AMD with second gen Ryzen. That was a game changer. I didn't need it but I wanted to support AMD's cpu platform. These days I am rocking a i9 12900k with 4070. I don't see a reason to upgrade for quite some time.
I'm still running an 8700k at 5ghz on an AIO.
Great for gaming at 4k.
Doesn't miss a beat
I had the i7 8700k since 2019. Just upgraded to a 5800X3D this week
meanwhile Mac fanboys upgrading every frickin year
What a great great Video!!! Love it as an PC Nerd since 1993. My whole Confirmation Money was spend for the First PC, a Pentium 90 which was the best CPU Intel had to offer. Had the Time of my Live with Games like Doom, Dark Forces and Wing Commander 3.
Still rocking my 8700k. Definately notice some bottlenecking but I am going to wait until Q! to upgrade. Have a 3080ti to go with a new build.
Still rocking the i7 8700K (well 8086K). Still using to this day, I could upgrade to a newer platform but I browse mostly nowadays and play games casually at 1080p with RTX 3060.
You won't need anything better for many years.
I built my first PC right when first gen Ryzen came out and ended up going with a 1700 (after the initial kinks were worked out and the price dropped a bit). Overall, still very satisfied with that decision considering what I could have gotten for the same price from intel. The games where the extra cores helped ran great, and the games where the extra cores didn't help it was still okay (managed to get all but two games to run perfectly fine at 100+fps which is enough for me, and the two games that didn't work that well REALLY didn't work that well, to the point where even if intel gave me twice as much fps that still would have only been around 30-40 lol).
Recently(ish) upgraded to a 5800X, still quite happy with AMD.
I have a 10 core i9 - 7900x from that age as my main rig and a 8 core i7 - 5960x with x99 mobo chilling on the shelf.
Just a quick note. X79 supports up to 12c/24t with the Xeon E5 2697 v2
Okay, so regarding the context here, this is one of my favorite CPUs, not going to lie; I still root for it to this day. If you can find a decent deal used, go ahead. However, it is superseded by its younger, less core-heavy cousins, such as the i3 12100. So, if you're browsing for something newer, that seems to be the one, or the AMD cousin, Ryzen 5 5600, which is somewhat similar in price and sometimes outperforms it. This is if you want something more core-heavy but newer that still packs a punch, or the i5 12400. But the 8700k CPU will forever hold a place in my heart, nevertheless.
the r5 5600x melts the 8700k. there is no contest between the two and the r5 pulls less watts aswell. and on the used market costs half the price of a 8700k.
love your videos, nice personality, seems competint, great video work, I hope you do well on RUclips
Could you imagine getting this cpu with a Gtx 1080ti? You still would have a very good pc today 6 years later!
What an idea! 😉
ruclips.net/video/NWfjRpWSIhM/видео.html
Well yeah 2070 super performance and a cpu right behind a ryzen 5 3600 really good I had the combo in one system from 2020-2023.
The XEON W-2135 is only $25 right now, its a Socket 2066 with 1MB Level 2 Cache per core. Skylake based. 6 core 12 thread. If you can score a Lenovo P520 or P520C motherboard in the $40-80 range (use a $2-$6 14-pin to 24-pin adapter from Amazon or AliExpress) it is serious bang for buck. Also 48 lanes PCIe direct from the CPU. 2x NVMe 2x full x16 and a x8. The second x16 supports those bifurcation adapters, so another 4 full NVMe is possible. Can put graphics in the lower slot for better thermals too.
The 8700 is the best processor from the 8th and 9th gen. Hyperthreading/clocks. Best all round. The 9th gen had nothing comparable. Had to wait for 10th gen for another 6 core 12 thread.
Sounds good! Alas, over here the P520 boards cost as much as a whole P520. I have got my eye out for a deal on one though, looking for one for my next console killer video!
today shoped a 2nd hand i7 8700k, gigabyte z370p d3, case, PSU, quadro k2200 and a whopping 64gb ddr4 3000 for 140€. so time to rewatch that video ;-)
still unsure what GPU to go with that flip. gpu used market is currently pretty bad for buyers. here in berlin
In my living room, I put my desktop there that still rocks connected to my 70 inch Samsung TV. MY desktop hosts my i7 8700k with my Nvidia 1080 Ti, 2 TB SSD, and 64 Gigs of ram. And with Nvidia's upscale update on their older GPUs I can still run every game old and new at min 60 fps and up to 100 plus fps at 1440p. I love this desktop and will never get rid of it. In my work room, I have the i7 13th series and an Nvidia 3080, 2 TB SSD, and 32 gigs of rams. AND, I'm pretty satisfied with it although I wanted the 3080 Ti but at the time I couldn't find any. Now this desktop runs everything extremely well.
honestly u could replace the 1080ti with a 2080ti for like 200 bucks and get the rtx benefits and u can sell the 1080ti and pay just like 100 bucks extra
Star5H1T is the worst game of all time, 1080p Low running at same level of 1440p High putting the same load in the GPU...
It came with my GPU and now it's a punishment for my purchase just staring at me in my Steam library. I knew it was bad when the recommended settings were medium at 60% resolution scale (1440p) on my current 3070 Ti.
I like these videos. Validation that my two 9th gen machines will be more than enough for the games I want to play for the foreseeable future.
Honestly I got the i7 8700k when it came out lasted me very good while I sold it but man it’s still can keep up
the combination of a brand new 8700k with a 1080ti is just absolutely GOATED in pc component history, best ever pair.
I still have my 8700k. It's in backup system with my old (recently resurrected) Vega 64. I use it primarily as a test bed. Got it in 2017 primarily for gaming, but oddly enough, I never really used it for that. Just lost interest in gaming around this time so it's used primarily for streaming and video playback. Yeah, I know. wasted.
Yeah, prices on ebay for i7's are crazy with the i7-8700k being more than a ryzen 5600x brand new. Might be worth piking up as a combo with a motherboard and ram if it can be found for a reasonable proce.
i use i7-8700k@4700 mhz (1.344v), ring bus 4500 mhz (very wooden unsuccessful processor) + 2x16gb Ballistix E-die OC to 3466 mhz (bad motherboard), timings 14-18-18-36 CR1 + second/tertiary timings.
works quite well with smooth frametime in games. but very hot: 4.8 ghz 1.380v 190w in LinX, 97-99°C. 4.7@1.332-1.344v in LinX 0.6.5 170w energy consumption, 90°C. cpu is dellided, liquid metal, polished Thermalright Macho.
that has to be a bad motherboard causing issues with cpu overclock I got mine to 4.8 on a deepcool gammax 300 cooler 😂 I have aorus gaming 5 and Dint change any settings
watching using my pc i7 8700
still awesome
Man your vids are kino
Great to see that an older cpu from 6 years ago is still more than capable of handling even the most demanding of games without too much effort. Paired together with a decent GPU and any owner of one will have no issue enjoying said games.
I ran a 3080 with mine and CPU bottlenecks were rare at 1440p. If it weren't for emulators I'd probably still be using it.
i just left the 8600k for the 9900kf but the 8600k today while overclocked is still a beast of a cpu
In the fall last year bought locally a used 8th gen i7-8700 (Non K) & Asus ROG Strix Z390-E motherboard for just $50 US dollars. Then during the time finding GPU's at a good price was like finding a needle in a haystack. I ended up buying locally a used EVGA GTX 1080 SC 8GB for $50 US dollars. When I bought the CPU & motherboard I ended up buying a 32GB kit of DDR4 memory. Cause the system I was using before used DDR3 memory.
Before I bought the i7-8700 processor and motherboard back in fall of 2022. I been using the AMD FX 8320 since it was released back in the fall of 2012 so I used that for 10 years. I game at 1080p which the i7-8700 with EVGA GTX 1080 SC 8GB is more then capable of playing the games I play. Playing BDO at remastered got no problem getting around 80 fps and getting around 80 fps while playing ESO at Ultra.
Would I like to build a complete new desktop with the newest hardware heck yea. But I don't have the extra funds to build a complete new system with the newest hardware. Would love to get a i9-9900K processor if it was cheap but course those are around $260 US dollars on the used market. lol
still using my ryzen 5 1600 which i bought for £130 new in 2018 after 2000 series came out - also a 2017 6 core cpu, and its great. game requirements are quickly increasing though so i might have to upgrade eventually but for now its still perfectly fine for my use and will be for the next few years. im sure the i7 8700 is probably doing better then my 1600 tho because of better single core performance and clock speed but this generation of cpus are still perfectly fine
I have an i3 8350k @ 4.8ghz+ and its quite solid for the older games. Games play fine apart from a few Pubg to name one but others like apex legends are 120fps-300 in closed areas. The only thing that lets this CPU down is the core count. I'm really sure if i3 had 6 cores it would still be crushing games. 6 Cores for 2023 will get you by but ideally you want something with 8 cores now or more. This is only applies if you like playing the latest games.
I've been using my i7-8700 for the past 7 years and it's perfectly fine! It can run Cyberpunk and Premiere Pro with no problem.
Intel core i7 6c exist since 1st gen Core i7. It got relative cost effective starting with Haswell, 5th gen Core i7 HEDT
Those 6 core chips in 2017-2020 were about futute proofing. Now in the past couple of years games are finally using more cores even old Xeons are benefitting from modern game development finally catching up to their high core count. Though theyre at a disadvantage with their lower clock speed.