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Damn. At the beginning I was like, How's he gonna shine something that's already shiney. Then he turned it to glass-
I had no idea of polishing until i saw this guy ... Great work
I love how neat and organized your shop is kept... I am very impressed with how professional and knowledgeable you are.
Great Job!!!
Thanks Great! We make it a point to keep the shop neat and organized. We pride ourselves on our detailing and cleanliness.
thanks for the video mate. i got my dewalt yesterday my first rotary machine. i had no idea how to use it n your video really helpful. now i can't wait to apply your technique. thank you
Hi Susastrio, that's great news, congratulations! Just remember not to put too much pressure on the machine, don't spend too long in one area, and start with the least aggressive approach first before moving onto heavier compounds, and rougher pads. Stay tuned, we have more cool videos on the way.
I really appreciate your informative videos and tutorials and always watch them. Just wanted to say that, sometimes -even with the wool pad-, under the available circumstances (provided thare's enough clear coat to work on) you need to apply a little force on the machine, especially with the German hard rock clear coats, to take out the swirls, scratches etc. For polishing and finishing situations, you are definately right but for correction buffing, it may vary. Am i wrong?
BTW: What's with the red car that's always lifted on the back? lol
Great video.
Today I had my hands on Skil car polisher for the first time but it was too hard to control the movement. If I move in one direction, the polisher takes me to some other direction. How do you control with two fingers?
This guy is awesome. You can tell he is passionate about what he does and enjoys teaching.
Hi Dan! Thanks for the awesome feedback! Happy detailing!
Thank you so much ,
By far the best on the tube, super well explained and detail .
Thank you and hopeful I be able to do my 2007 white sedan car, the paint still good but too many dents on the hood and doors sides also,
Great video. So easy to follow. I will purchase one and see how it goes. Been wanting to polish my car for a long while but was unsure of a safe way to do it. Thank you👍
Hi Stew! Thanks for the awesome feedback, we are glad to have you apart of the Chemical Guys family!
Also I do have to mention I do appreciate what's going on here you're working with a black colors Hood that's the right one to be showing people what really shows :-)
different strokes and all that but i thought lifting off and stopping the machine would cause splatter? i was always taught to spread the polish and start the machine with it in contact with the paintwork and the same for removal
My understanding is that it ONLY applies to a DA not a rotary orbital polisher. Hope thathelps.
Thank you.. great lesson
Excellent video, Thank you. About pressure I was told ome may be necessary (about twice the weight of the polisher, just to heat enough. which is what I need to do as I often polish polyester.
My base for any cutting tool, sanding , polishing, scraping, is to leave the tool do his cutting job, so it should be the same with polishing, but I see the heat facilitates the job (until it burns the surface !)
What to say about heat ans how to control it (laser thermometer can be nice to be sure of the level)
Regards.
I. Oleg (just baught you a S21DA, a big orbital is planned too mines are not strong enough for hard jobs.
Thanks another very informative video some top tips
Hi Greg, thank you for your tips. With the rotary polisher you carefully avoid the body lines and the edges, is it the technique with a Bigfoot ? Could you go over the body lines ? And, as you avoid the body lines here, how do you polish them, do you use a hand pad ? Thank you by advance.
Last year i bought a polisher, tested on my wifes car n f it up. Hopefully watching this will help me as i am attempting to do it again. This video points out alot of mistakes that i made. For starters, priming the pad with a primer or a quick detailer fluid is very important. Secondly, dont push down which i did and fight the machine n burnt out an area of polishing. If the machine is feeling rough, stop immediately.
Hey there! All the best, let us know how it turns out. - Happy detailing!
@@ChemicalGuys Hi i recently tried detailing again, did a car wash and claying process, but now i got clay bar streaks and residue on the surface, i did use quick detailer fluid with the clay bar then just a wipe down. How do i avoid this from happening? and how do i get rid of the clay bar stains?
Become one with the machine,do not fight the machine-Enter the Matrix
LOL.
I'll just use the force and just kick back while the machine does all the work.
oh you woke woke
Great video, thanks guys.
Glad i watch this before getting into it. Great vid
Hi Kevin! Thanks for the awesome feedback and thanks for being part of the Chemical Guys family!
Hey, great video thanks for all the information. Quick question where can I get a cart like the one your using and the ones in the background of the video ? Thanks in advanced
Excellent tutorial video I love it!
Happy detailing!!
I use a milwaukee polisher and since im new i turn it to a medium setting and use a foam pad with compound and polish is that ok ? Im worried about burning so having a lower setting seems safer to me as does using a foam pad even for cutting. I buff until cleqr and it seems to look alot better when done. Im looking for 80% correction its a daily driver not a show car. What do you think ?
what a great video! i have to try this with my old school makita 9227c
Thanks for watching!
Awesome vid but do the sides of the car teach us how to control the machine while doing the sides the flat surfaces are easy Gravity is helping
Good video, you can tell he's really stressing the care needed with a rotary. Normally he's all happy, this time he looks dead serious.
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Flex is a lovely rotary machine. By far the nicest machine to use :)
great video! 👍
Great vid loved " b 1 with the machine " 👍🏻
i heard that some where before..
Hey great video! Am grateful and will be buying some of your products. But the shipping price is killer. I guess I gotta buy alot. I'll buy with definiteness next time I need to re-up on my supplies.
Excellent video! I'm hooked just wondering if you can get all this stuff in the UK? I particularly like this polisher. I have a 16 year old car that is looking rather sorry for itself that I'd love to have a go at.
How do you polish the front of the hood where it angles downward and very narrow? By hand?
This helped big time! So for a brand new car I would use a white pad?
Connect with the machine.....lol great instructions!!!!!!
Do you use the same technique with a dual action head?
Should I always do each section twice or was that just for demonstration purposes?
Amazing!!! thank you very much!
Thanks for the love, Sergio! Stay tuned for some more great content!
Thanks, helps a lot.
Great video's ,and products , but you always go over the same spot , please in the next video can you show us how to overlap two side by side areas, thanks you guy's are awesome
ohh my god great video thanks
Now I'm gonna go and breath, then I'm gonna breath again. Then I'm gonna speak and breath again, then I'm gonna grab this towel. :) Lol, love your work really
Rotary is the best its what i learned on for cutting my go to is my DeWalt with a wool pad its crazy how many detailer these day dont know how to use rotary
Happy detailing!
keep moving and flat the machine. thank 🤝
Brilliant video guys, really good, one question though, how would you do a bonnet hump like on a BMW m3 e92?
Hi there, this is Alex from the Chemical Guys media crew. To polish the bonnet hump, you should use a dual action polisher to polish the upper most section, using a polishing applicator pad would work for the sides. Be sure to only apply about 5 pounds of pressure to the machine.
Yes great video thanks
What about waxing the car do you still use the machine that long on the car?
can you do a video on front bumpers?
Great video.... What else can i use if I don't have pad conditioner? Do I need pad conditioner for a wool pad as well?
You can prime the pad by putting 2-3 drops on then massaging it into the with your hand, that's how I do it 👍
What about curves like the tops of fenders? Or concave curves on door panels? How do you keep the pad flat?
Easy you dont. Tilt that bitch
Takes a little practice but if your used to working with power tools it doesn't take much .
Areas that are risky, or impossible can be finished by hand.
We use spot polishers for areas like that, be light it’s honestly not that hard
Love this guy
Thanks for tuning in!
i am a 9 year old trying to have a small car wash deatailing businesses for the sumer ect what do i need and what should i charge
Hey, thanks for watching. You need to have access to soap, water, buckets, or you can go waterless with ecosmart, plenty of microfiber towels, some wax. If you plan on doing wheels, you will need tire, and wheel cleaner, tire dressing, foam brush, bristle brush, Diablo, or Sticky Citrus to clean the wheels. I would also recommend a quick detail spray, and a clay block after you wash the car. you're also going to need something to clean the windows with, streak free window cleaner would be ideal. You should get microfiber towels in different colors, green for outside, blue for windows, yellow for interior, grey for wheels and engine bays. As far as what to charge, you have to ask yourself what is your time worth, if you can finish something in two hours, charge around 60, detailing is hard work. If you could get more, charge more.
Great video guys. One question tho. How can I limit the amount of "dusting" I get when using the compounds. When polishing everything goes smoothly but when I compound after a few passes it starts to dust. Is that just it getting dry and needing a spray of pad conditioner?
spray the pad with a mist of water. Should help.
-Greg@CG
You will find depending on the pad/compound in use that the more aggressive compounds will dust.
Thanks for the info. It only happens when I'm compounding after probably the 3rd to 4th pass. There is usually still plenty of product on the pad but I'll try doing 2 passes then spray a shot of water on it and see if that helps
J.T. Spencer Also sometimes depend of the temperature or weather. Is it high or medium humidity. Is it a hot day. Because most of the times, we never detail on close air con room.
J.T. Spencer
very informative, thank you.
Happy detailing!
great video thank you
Thanks for the awesome feedback! Happy detailing!
You make it look easy when the hood is off the car
What do you do about that angled body line that's only about two inches wide?
Eddie G hold it at an angle and increase hand speed reduce rpm to min. Rework adjacent surfaces afterward to remove chop swirls.
You can hold it at an angle. Just gotta feel the machine an uplift it a bit to reduce pressure and just work your way at an angle like that
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It seemed to me that he was letting the foam pad on the small pad momentarily rub the angled area of the hood. I think that the outside radius of the break in the hood could be finished by hand, without the convenience, and the risk of damage, of the machine.
You need to connect and become one with the machine.
great video thanks
Happy detailing!!
I bought a Rotary-Orbital Polisher with the intention of REMOVING polish and wax. I tend to use too much product and it is a PITA to remove the excess. So I thought I could use one of these machines to "buff" off my polish or wax. Are you saying these machines are only to be used for putting on wax or polish?
Hi Rich! Thanks for reaching out. Machine polishers are designed to remove scratches and swirls as well as apply a fine coat of your favorite glaze, sealant, and wax. Using a clean microfiber towel is the recommended method of removing spent product. Add a quick detail spray if the product dries and becomes difficult to buff off. - Happy detailing!
- CG Nick
It is the most easy job, at a good height with horizontal surfaces.
sides and vertical surfaces are more tricky.)
Wearing a strapped belt helps to keep the back straight (but the muscles get lazy then)
You should be wearing ear protection of some sort (on a demonstration) ears are fragile .
When I polish, I use the back of the other hand often to check warning- Regards
I think I created a hot spot on my truck while aplying scratch remover with my drill any ideas how to fix it..or apply some tipe of compound
mj89 28 Black pad with swirl remover
How to use this in front bumper on the side angle for example
"I'm only holding it with two fingers" famous last words hahaha, jk great video
What size pads do you prefer with rotary ?
Hi Dana, how are you doing? The size of the pad will depend on the size of the vehicle, we typically use a pad around 4-6.5" for larger cars, 3" pads for the smaller cars. Stay tuned Dana, we've got more great videos coming your way.
C.G. Alex -
Well Done!
Rotary buffer and polish pads were like 9”-12” back in the day if I remember correctly! You could compound and polish a full size car hood under 10 minutes, full car in about 20-30 minutes!
@@tycox8704 That they were!
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Hi there!
This is a very interesting video! I'm actually about to polish a guitar that I have painted, I have just sand paper with a 1500 the finish and I'm about to use my De Walt DWP849X which is pretty big. Do you have suggestion on how to use the rotary polisher on the neck of the guitar as it clearly is a curve surface.
Hey Bud,
Your rotary polisher may be too big for such a job. You may just need a hand applicator for something as small as the neck of your guitar. In fact, a rotary may do more harm than good because it may be too powerful for the sensitivity of your guitar. Also, since it does have a curved surface, the polisher may end up burning off paint in the edges because those are the most sensitive. We advise against you using your rotary to polish the neck of your guitar. This is also just my opinion because I'm also a guitarist and I love my guitar and would never want to damage it.
-CG Javier
I see, thank you for your advice, I think that I'll use the rotary just on the plane surface of the body as I have already sanded them with a 1500 sand paper abrasive because after applying the finish I had some orange peel on that. For the neck and the curved surfaces I'll do it by hand.
This video was really helpful, my car looks like brand new now!
I bought a rotary without seeing its RPM range. Its 2500-3500 rpm. It said car polishing machine in description. Is it safe to use it on 2500 RPM With foam pads. It came with a wool pad.
The faster a pad spins the more heat it generates. The more likely you will be able to get swirls. You are going to have to move a bit faster than he is and be very light with it
Wax on wax off. Great video. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Took a five min nap during the video. Wake up. Didnt miss a bit.
Awesome video !
I've been looking for a video like this for a while
I still can't seem to get this machine down !
It just walks around everywhere on me I can't seem to control it :/ !
What am I doing wrong ?!
Either pad is not centered right, either your are tilting the machine (pad is not held flat on the surface), either you are not using enough polish (lack of lubrication makes it wiggle/shake). Most of the time it happens because the pad is not held flat on the surface you are polishing so pay attention to that when you are buffing. Also don't forget to condition/prime the pad and clean it often.
In addition to the previous reply, could be too much pressure! Keep trying!
what is a good polisher to use for starters?
portable cable da polisher or Maguire's da polisher. its very easy to use and to keep in control. rotary are for professinals in the body shop industry da are great for home use.
Can u do a detail on a car or bike that's dirty? Not a clean one with only dust. A rusty & really bad oxidated
You wouldn't polish a dirty car!!! You polish after the car has been cleaned already. Dah!
Cyndi Grajeda over they're head I know it's 3 years later and no... They have not done a dirty car yet.
Is it easy to burn through a clear coat with a dual action machine? What if your car doesn't have much clear coat left? Can you still compound and polish it? How can you tell when your clear coat is too thin?
Purchase a paint thickness tool, it will measure the thickness you have left ( in microns), and then you can compare your results to new factory normals.
Using the rotary takes less time tan usin the DA? The result is amazing; great video!
Some would argue that's not true. some say the Rupes DA corrects faster than rotary.
ryan1540 There is a reason the Rotary is the standard of the industry. Because it handles business better than any other machine for high correction situations.
-Greg@CG
Chemical Guys
For correction that is true. For finishing it may not always be the case. It depends on the user's technique but an average user would a DA and finish the job in lesser time than a rotary. Also depends on which pads you use for your polishing/compounding. The Rupes is a different animal and you have to find what works best for you
Red hot tip. Dont be scared of the rotary. Use the 6 inch backing black and pads. The 8 inch is harder to control for a beginner.
Thanks for the awesome feedback!
If it's 90% technique, can I avoid paying $400+ on one of your polishers and buy a $50 one?
You actually can, buy yourself a harbor freight rotary, get a good backing plate, pads, etc. the only thing about the harbor freight rotary is that it will not last as long as a dewalt, makita, etc. it will work though.
Alfred Hernandez Oh yea, and it might also kick a backing plate off into your head while using it.
50 works just as good as the 400
Sounds like you had peronal real life experience
I have a harbor freight orbital polisher and it works great . Very powerful, best to have a light touch .
Can you use a drill for this?
How often should you change the pad while polishing a car?
After every panel clean the pad out with compressed air (if you have a compressor) or a pad cleaning brush, this will get you hopefully about ¹/³ or ¹/² of the car and switch over.
The pad should never feel considerably more squishy or soft than it did when it was new.
Does those technics also work for DA machines
Hey Gustavo. we appreciate you watching the video. The techniques for Dual action polishers are slightly different. For example, after using the DA to apply the polish to the paint, you start directly on the panel because dual action polishers operate at slower speeds, therefore it's safer for paint correction. Dual action orbitals use a ratchet and gear tooth design, to create the two separate polishing motions. Rotary polishers get much hotter than dual action polishers because the pad is spinning at a high speed. You MUST keep a circular / rotary polisher moving at all times so this heat doesn’t concentrate on one spot.
Rotary powered car in the background of a rotary powered polisher video........very clever.
mnehls1 old news but thats an mx5
It's kind of spiritual....be one with the machine :D
LOL, I noticed that too. It made me stop and think "Did he really just say that?" LOL.
i see theres . rotary poliosher and a random orbit one. which one is better to get
Hey! A rotary polisher is a much quicker and cuts deeper but it requires proper training to hone and master whereas a DA or random orbital is easy to pick up and learn with, while being much more forgiving.
@@ChemicalGuys yeah dewalt came out iwth new 20v dewalt polisher rotary and a random orbit polisher. i made an impukse buy and got the rotary without thinking the random orbit is apparently better cause less chance or screwing up. all i wanted to do was to make waxing quicker. maybe paint correction down the road if i decide to get into detailing more for personal doing. contemplating on returning the rotary for the random orbit?
It would probably be best to exchange the rotary for the random orbital especially if you are looking for a machine to apply wax.
@@ChemicalGuys the rotorary wouldnt be the proper tool to apply your waxes?
Using a rotary to spread glaze, sealant and wax even with a finishing pad can potentially cut the paint and leave a trail or haze.
If i buffed an area for that long & that many passes it dries out
I’d like to see you try that on a c5 corvette hood
Great Idea! We will be looking into making more videos on fiberglass materials in the future!
Can you use water to lubricate the pad?
It's best to just pop 2-3 drops of polish on the pad and massage it onto the pad with your hand, it's called priming the pad and is what has always been done before the "pad conditioner" was invented.
I'm sure it works but for the past 15 years I've always just used polish to prime my pad 👍
Funny that you said never turn the pad on an angle, yet at 5:20 going along the hood ridge you do just that.
hey i was thinking of buying a buffer on amazon. it's about 30-45$ i think. you think it's worth it buy ones around this range? or do you think it's more worth it to buy a more expensive one? I would rather spend less money on this but if it'll cause more problems than solutions i would guess it's not worth it.
I'm also interested. I'm considering Harbor Freights at $60, but don't want to run into more issues.
@Harrison Harmon nice i'll look into that. i was also thinking of the black and decker buffer that's about 30$ on amazon.
Ahh, I saw that one. I am considering it as well. I was planning on buying a jack, so I figured I'd go to Harbor and get both at once. I am curious how that Black and Decker is though.
My dad taught me with a Dewalt rotary buffer, you can imagine how that went.
Not really, I don't have that experience, but I'm guessing that it has a variable speed trigger. That would be a real challenge for a beginner.
My mentor is teaching me on this as well. Why is he telling me to angle the pad upward if it's supposed to be flat ? He's driving me crazy
how bout an upright body panel? could someone explain how to?
On a vertical surface it's exactly the same process, keep the pad level with the panel, you will need to sit or kneel down to get to a comfortable working position.
The Flex polisher used there has a handle that can be attached to the side to help with awkward or vertical surfaces.
What else could you use to prime the pad if you don't have the pad cleaner?
any spray detailer will work. And you don't want to use pad cleaner to prime the pad you want to use pad conditioner.
water should be just fine.
water with a tiny bit of fairy liquid works well
I put my pads in the washing machine! Works perfect!
You polished only the center pieces of the hood, but the small edges where you didn't go... how to polish them? I mean the small corner where the headlight and the grill are. Or the line which separates the center piece of the hood with the side pieces.
You'd generally need to start looking at edging techniques, I don't blame the guy for not covering the body lines as if you're needing to watch a video on how to do it, you'll probably ruin your paintwork.
You essentially need to do what he tells you not to do which is angle the polisher which unless you're experienced has a lot of scope for error.
A safer option for you might be to polish the flat sections then use a glaze on the bodylines 👌
I don't have the Flex, but I thought this was a 'Forced rotation - dual action' polisher. I thought I heard in the video that it is a straight rotary machine ?
Flex is a tool manufacturing company. Flex makes dual-action and rotary polishers. In this video, we are using a rotary polisher.
-Greg@CG
Hi can you tell me what speed use to do wax please
Hey! We recommend spreading waxes on speed setting 1. Thanks for watching and happy detailing!
Yes I understand but the problem is I have dewalt rotary machine so what speed use thank you so much
You had about 3 minutes of information and somehow stretched it to 24
question, when i was compounding my pad would randomly grip the car. anyone know why?
tom aron Sticky paint. Was it a german car? Try spritzing pad with some water maybe.
it was an 85 dodge and i'll try with some water next time. thx
If you only have one size of pads and doing a small area with an edge, couldn't you just tape the edge so you don't burn it?
So I have to stretch before I use rotary now?!
Don't want to pull anything while polishing!
When i tried to polish my bonnet my polisher seems to grip and the whole thing spins, but some times i can get it to glide. What would cause the polisher to bite/grip rather then just gliding like in the video. Im not using any pressure ether. thanks
might want to clay before you start to smooth and remove anything on the surface.