How to Reduce & Remove Holograms with a Rotary Polisher
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- Cutting and compounding with a rotary polisher can be speedy and powerful means to remove heavy defects on paint. However, a powerful polisher like the rotary polisher poses difficulty in reducing its cutting ability.
This is evidently noticeable when finishing a softer paint after the compounding stage. Holograms and micro-swirls can be slightly challenging to remove compared to a dual-action polisher.
In this episode, we are demonstrating several techniques and tricks you may adopt to reduce and remove holograms with a rotary polisher. Enjoy!
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Finally, a video that gets straight to the point, and doesn’t complicate the explanation for people who are not professional, polishers. Thank you for this video
Hey Mort, you are most welcomed and thanks for watching. Glad you liked it! 😃- Henry
Used it for the first time last weekend definitely worth buying if you're a person who likes detailing your own car recommend first time to use on lowest setting 800 so you don't burn paint don't leave in one spot keep moving it over paint easy to use ruclips.net/user/postUgkxfzbDkCRyv3CFXnLZI4APZtRRuG2uRmP2 truck looks like new again used maguires black light battery life like all milwaukee products seem to hold up well 😀
One of the best tutorials I've seen. Great video
Yeah this guy is usually the most straight forward about any polishing work
I like how at the end you wiped away the oils of the product and said “i want to see if i actually got rid of the holograms and didn’t just cover them”. Every video I’ve seen they leave the polish on and show a before and after as if that matters..
If u know what u doing then do not need to use that alcohol thing... i polish without hologram anyway and not need to check... but brilliant video!
@@attilabodi6713 You are the best!
Great vid mate, really appreciate you taking the time out to share your knowledge. I’ve been detailing cars professionally for awhile now and your advice is spot on regarding soft paint and ensuring a perfect, hologram free finish (specially on darker cars). Keep up the good work!
This was a very informative video! Thanks for taking the time to make these videos for us Henry! As always great and valuable information!
~Kelly from 🇨🇦
EXCELLENT!!!
Clear and comprehensive demonstrations with examples and explanation.
Very useful tips! I am a fan of your channel. Would like to voice my support here.
Unlike many American/European car detailing RUclips channels where they try to make simple things unnecessary complicated. I am talking 15-step wash and decontamination process followed by 10 step surface preparation and product trials using 3 different DA polishers with 20 different types of pads with 10 different types of compound/polishing/finishing/sealant/wax/top-coat etc. Took them like a week to completely detail only one car hahaha... This kind of complication has taken the joy of car detailing away.
Your instructions just always keep things simple and easy to follow with minimal tools, chemicals and steps.
Also, I guess that you are a kind of ROTARY man because you always use rotary. I grew up and start my car detailing practice from rotary and have always been using rotary. Contrary to today's popularity of the DA, a rotary always has a place in my heart. It just gets the job done effectively and easy. More fun to use than the DA, in my opinion.
Do you have any videos on polishing the very soft paint? I have the World Rally Blue (Dark Blue) Subaru BRZ. Its paint is very soft and it is very hard to perfecting the paint without the hologram.
Keep on publishing good videos! Thanks. (Sorry for very long comment)
HI Nikornvit, glad you found it useful. Off camera, Henry uses dual action polisher equally frequent as well. It all depends on the job at hand and there is always a best possible combination that is utilised by different detailers.
On the soft paint, you may find the video here: ruclips.net/video/Z2BCAaczsmk/видео.html
Nikornvit Tulananda Can't agree with you more brother
Thats because they have product sponsors and they need to sell their products. In my shop I have only 2 sets od pads and performed more than 100 cars with the pad
Great video. Your vocabulary and English are excellent and your instructions are clear and to the point. Thanks for sharing.
Your direct, down to earth and no bullshit attitude got you a subscriber. Thank you
Awesome tips and video! Well explained by demonstration , explanation and ilustrations. Nice work!
I watch your video for the first time. and I really enjoyed the way of explaining. Such a relaxed display of work with the polisher has let me down. I'm not afraid to try
Glad this helped! Give it a try and let us know how it goes :D
from Ecuador Thank you .. excellent tutorial ...
This information has helped me a lot, and I give you my infinite respect! Thanks for Everything
Hi just seen your channel and WOW they are so informative for the beginner like me the more tips the better your channel is the best i have seen so far
This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you !
You are a great teacher. I just started mechanical polishing 2 days ago. Doing my boat. Your videos have helped me each time I get on the rotary. Thank you.
That’s great, glad the video helped! You’re are most welcomed 😁
This was the most helpful video on the rotary polisher I've seen yet! Nice video man!
Thanks for watching and commenting! Glad you find it helpful *thumbs up
I agree with almost everything you have shown in your video except the speed you move your machine across a panel.
You still need to remove the swirls and holograms and moving quickly across a panel is not going to help you. All you will be doing is increasing your phisical effort and tiredness for no gain at all.
You still need to cut the holograms out so a slow machine speed and a slow directional movement will be your winning algorithm.
You still can use smaller buff pads as long as your pressure and pad speed is low. A bigger buff pad could introduce holograms again as the outside perimiter on a large buff pad will move much faster due to its larger circumference.
It is a bit of a love dance between speed pressure, right pad softness and fine cutters to achieve perfection. Well done. Excellent video. I have learned a lot from watching your videos.
Right.... But, he removed the holograms with his method!
Very useful for me. Thank you for showing these tips!
Dual action polishers are best well worth the money. Great information, thanks for sharing the tips.
Geat tutorial, everything explained very clearly, bravo
Thanks for your help!!!
I have some Swirls and Holograms that were put on my New 2024 Toyota 4Runner by a Shop and now I need to buy a Polisher so I can try and correct the situation.
This is a great video!!!
Glad that we could help you!
Thank you sir, it was very helpful & your explanation + demo was perfect
These are invaluable tips!
Great video man!!
thanks! very encouraging!
Great explanation of technique. Thanks.
Beautiful and Professional video man!
Thank you for the time for teaching us all and how to correct what we've messed up with our rotary polisher
Thanks for your time.
Awesome video, perfect explanation!
Great video! I have one Rotary polisher and one DA polisher. I was afraid of using the rotary before, but after this video I only use the rotary. I get the paint more shiny and save a lot of time.
Hi there! Glad to hear that 👍🏻. Keep up the good work :)
Hey folks, Henry and the Osren team,
I would like to share my experience with a certain kind of swirls here, also I want to stress the meaning of this videoclip when we talk about removing swirls and thank Henry and the Osren team for providing me with tips and hints that really proved valuable for me!
Maybe this text can help some of you guys sort out a kind of complicated issue and makes it a little clearer and easy to understand.
Let’s get into it: Those swirls on my black Ford were driving me crazy. Whatever combination I tried and whatever technique I used (watch Osren videos regarding arm speed, amount of product, rpm and applied pressure that influence the cutting effect), I wasn’t able to remove them. Just to be complete, I want to mention that I used only good quality products and pads and with 2+ years experience in cutting and polishing, I am not a super pro but also not a beginner. And I don’t have a DA, only a rotary and didn’t want to invest because it’s my private car and no profits involved...
Those swirls were of the kind that you couldn’t see them in the shade or indoors at all. But you were able to see them very obviously in bright sunlight and it was ugly I can tell you. I fixed a lot of extra light with plenty of bright LED tubes and all that in order to see them when I work and to check the results, but no. And I want to mention that I live in Thailand, so once the sun comes out, the light it is super bright. Means those swirls are really almost undetectable but I saw them regularly and I hated them because I tried to remove them for months and I failed.
When I saw the clip and talked to Henry (many thanks for taking the time to reply!), he guessed already that those swirls were very light swirls, not deep and recommended a downgrade. I (as not-professional) tended to upgrade rather downgrading because it made more sense.
Generally: I want to remove something and it can’t removed with a certain way or product, it makes sense to use something stronger, right? That’s common sense in general life I would say. But not in polishing.
After that, I downgraded and again tried this and that combination but still not the desired results. I couldn’t believe anything anymore.
Can you guys guess how I ended up? After I already kind of accepted that it’s impossible to remove them, I tried my machine polish and applied it by hand and a microfiber towel. And after 2 passes, I couldn’t believe my eyes: GONE! After that I tried a foam pad with the same machine polish that said „finishing pad, no cutting ability“ and: GONE
In the end, after the polishing of every panel, I had to drive out into the sun to check the results. But it wasn’t an issue as long as I got my results!
So the message of this text is: for certain kind of swirls, start with the less aggressive combination you have available. Possibly apply the product by hand first and check the results! It won’t do any harm. And after that work your way up.
A personal add: it’s so satisfying to solve a frustrating problem by your own hands and brains (of course with certain help like the Osren team here) and to gain further knowledge and capabilities. Even this task was so challenging, I leaned a lot and I am happy and grateful to go through this -at first very very frustrating- experience.
Good luck and plenty of success!
Frank
@@lewis30ss91 right, least abrasive polish you can find, a finishing polish combined with a good quality, soft finishing foam. For very light swirls, work your way up, means start with the least abrasive combination and increase bit by bit. In case you want to invest a little, you could think about a DA polisher, which is less aggressive and hence better for this kind of very light scratches. My experiences with polishing confirm Henry’s statements absolutely. Very low level of abrasiveness, the less aggressive the better. In certain cases, one could perhaps add more swirls by using too strong combinations of polishes/pads. I think it happened to me before, too.
I don’t think that compounds can do you any good related to swirl removal. You better leave that out, just too aggressive. That’s more for heavy oxidized paint, parked in the sun for years, very old paint or similar heavy cases. Good luck.
@@lewis30ss91 I am not really sure, depends on what is available where you live. At least for me -I live in Thailand- and most European brands ain’t available here. I can stick only to 3m. Don’t save there and do some research first. I guess Osren have good products for sale, Sonax is a German brand with good reputation. But as mentioned, not available for me...
Exactly what I needed to see as I have similar color on my Subaru Forester XT. Thanks!
Great choice in using the Hitachi SP18VA rotary polisher it is lighter than the Mikita 9227C and Dewalt DW849, only the more expensive Metabo PE12-175 is lighter. Great tip on pad sizes as an aggressiveness factor !
I've watched loads of videos on buffing, cutting, polishing and hologram removal.
But watching your demonstration nailed it for me.
I was going to do a ceramic top sealant but a bit concerned because my super black paintwork had many holograms.
I tried your method and bingo all the swirls and ghosting disappeared.
I've now done the ceramic coating and it's pretty much perfect. Thanks again.
Glad you found it useful!
Thanks for sharing, your video really helpful to decide. By this video I can decide which polisher is suite me 😁
Great video! Thank you
I'm a fan of the video. Thank you
Another awesome how to video keep up the great job guys!!
Thank you!
Learned a lot ! thank you!
i was about to buy an expensive da polisher until i found this, this has gained my confidence and has helped me and did a perfect work on my car thanks alot!!!
Most welcome!
Great video. Well done.
Rasanya saya kepengen kursus dengan beliau 😍😍😍
Love your videos sir, thank you!
Great video bro , great tips thanks .
Great information and video, thank you!
Most welcome!
Great deal this clip. It just hits the point.
Had to smile almost throughout the whole clip because I observed the exact same things before I watched this clip and was confused like crazy. The hard thing to understand is why less aggressive can remove more defects. That doesn’t make sense, at least for swirl marks. Holograms yes.
Once you experience it and think about it thoroughly and you will get behind it....
Very informative, thank you!👍🏼
Wow this solves the mess I created accidentally ! Appreciate the help. Cheers from 🇨🇦🇨🇦🍻🍻
Looks totally Awesome.
I had to edit...Great video! I had a black car kicking my butt and your advice worked perfectly! Thank you. Made the job faster with better results as well.
Glad you found it useful and happy that it helped!
Thank you very much for the knowledge. Fc
Awesome video, thank you for sharing knowledge
Hey Kris! You’re welcome and glad you find it helpful 😁
Great infos, thanks for sharing with us :)
Thank you. Finally got rid of the holograms dominating my drivers door. Lower speed on the DA and quicker passes is the way to go.
Awesome video. Very informative
Glad you liked it
Thanks for the good tips....
Good technik and good product 🍺👍
Great vid Sir.
Great video, learned a lot, thx.
Great tutorial....
Good work
Great video. Keep it up.
Thanks Doug!
You are the master of rotary
Thank you. Great explanation !
Thanks Diego, glad you find it helpful!
Excellent video! This is the first video of yours that I have watched and I’m impressed. Don’t take that last compliment strongly because I’m very new to polishing. I bought a rotary when I meant to buy a DA. I’m looking for tips on how to go over ridges in the hood such as a BMW F30 with a rotary polisher. I did subscribe to your channel as your presentation and practically are great. Looking forward to watching your older videos and ones to come!
Hey BC12398 ! Henry from OSREN here. Sorry for the late reply, must have missed it! Regarding the ridges on the F30, a simple advice would be never pressure (be it DA or Rotary) on the tip of the ridge, work around it. For the steep part of the ridge you wanna tilt your pads a little bid to hud the sides of the ridge and maintain as much contact as possible. A smaller throw DA as well as Pad size will help too.
Thanks for subscribing to our channel!
Good Video Boss ,it would be good to see wool pads on a rotary! Thanks brother !
Thanks, very helpful!
Your the man! Thank You! I learned more in one of your videos than days worth of the "Other Guys" videos.
Hey Drayton! It’s a tricky question but if you can connect with us on Facebook and send us some pictures, we could better advice. Alternatively the general rule is to run your nails across the scratch, if it catches, is too deep.
Also, what type of pads do you use with the compounds / polishes you mentioned ?
@@OSRENOfficial Hey thanks for the reply. Sorry I edited my comment lol. I will definitely connect with you on Facebook. I really want to improve my detailing skills. I am using Hex Logic 4 inch pads. Orange then white.
Haha no worries 👌🏻. Our facebook page is facebook.com/osrenmalaysia
My dude! You're amazingly informative. Thank you! Subscribed!
Thanks a lot dude! Would there be any content about detailing that you would like to watch or know more?
@@OSRENOfficial Well, I'm just getting into it honestly. A lot of questions I've had to research were e.g. microfiber vs foam, speeds, DA vs Rotary, I think for the most part a lot is already covered. It's hard to find good product comparison videos at times. I specifically was searching for foam on a rotary as most people tend to favor wool, and this video covered it wonderfully, and even taught me a thing or two (pad sizes and heat distribution/cutting power). The only reason I am even still slightly considering a rotary is how fast I see people doing correction work with them...a few passes with a wool pad and it's ready for polish. But it seems DA just finishes better. I'd like to see more videos about microfiber vs foam I suppose, and how they behave with different compounds and polishes, cutting and finishing microfiber pads. I plan to use a red foam meguiars cutting pad but I think compounding with microfiber would be just a little quicker and easier, on a DA.
Thanks for the response! If I think of anything else as I go along I'll be sure to reach out!✌️
All good man! Generally cut level for microfibres are between the wool and most sort of foams. Well if budget allows, you would want to get a rotary as well as a DA. Too many types of paint works out there that really reacts differently to each combo
Good Job!
Love your vids!
Do a boat, gelcoat (oxidized) leave no swirls.
Nice video.
Usually I find "car guys" like drama in their work. Many pads, many products... You like 1 of each and have (unlike most) learned how best to use them. 👍🏻
The best on you tube!
thank you!
Thankyou, awesome video!
Dude, this is amazing. 👍
thank you!
2 thumbs up for thia video! Thanks alot. Very helpful.
You're the man!
Thanks for they class
Thanks for watching! 😃
BIG thank you - Old git, UK - on my Jag!
great job
Man this looks great.
I know this is an old video but I really appreciate it. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! 😁
New subscriber here amazing job. 👍👍👍👍👍
Great video, never seen anyone apply product to the paint and polish over it, everyone seems to apply direct to the pad. I’m gonna try this
Hey High Carb Rider, thanks for watching! Please try it out and let us know how it goes. :)
OSREN (MALAYSIA) SDN BHD tried to today and worked a treat. I used a green Hex Logic pad and Menzerna super finish 3500 and the results were great. 👍
Glad it helped :)
ORSEN (MALAYSIA) SDN BHD - Really very informative and an illustration of why a rotary is NOT for beginners who have had no training and why DA's are a safer bet for weekend warriors : ) But you videos are superb for those who want to learn rotaries - really appreciate all your fine tips! Happy detailing !!
good job sir
Hello, I am writing to you from El Salvador, Central America. Your videos are very good to the point that I already ordered my hitachi rotary. I try to understand English with difficulty. I would like all your videos to be subtitled in Spanish, since I think you are a good teacher and it doesn't complicate things so much hugs friend
Hi Edward, thanks for watching and glad you found the informations helpful! Also thanks for the suggestion to have the videos in Spanish subs, it would definitely benefit more viewers.
My favorite is the part about being less aggressive
Very usefull. Working well on my car by using softpad and meguairs ultimate polish
Awesome explanation. It was almost like listening to Bruce lee explaining his fluidity in training.
Awesome!!!!!
Been buffing in a professional body shop for years with a rotary polisher, have never encountered this problem. I feel like pad choice and compound is crucial, plus somtimes you cant be scared to put alil heat on it. the clear on these new cars now days can take quite abit before ever getting close to burning through.
Great job dude. I'm amazed by your efforts and professionalism. I'm planning to try with rotary to remove some light swirls from my VW paint. Could you tell me how much microns of CC will I remove with this particular technique? Thanks a lot.
Hey Branko, it's hard to tell how many exact microns will be removed by polishing or any form of polishing. But removing holograms will rotary is a very light burnishing process and does not come close to burning away excessive clear-coat, nor it is capable of removing scratches or deep swirls.
It's the heavy compounding that anyone should be more worried about as usually, these are the cuttings that will burn paint or thin clear coat. Therefore, good car care is always about preventing as many scratches and other defects as possible so one doesn't require heavy cutting every now and then.
Once you figure it out. It’s so satisfying to correct and finish with the rotary. Working my way down from 1200rpm to 900rpm I can almost finish everything with the flex battery rotary.
i only have a rotary and DA polisher are so expensive. thanks for teaching how to remove these defects
kurt avery - Try Harbor Freight.
Hahaha that ending!! Great stuff Henry! Can we apply the same techniques with a DA polisher to reduce DA hazing? Since the goal is to "reduce cutting". Thanks in advance!
Hi Kenneth. Yes the same principle applies to dual action polisher as well. In fact, I would say it is easier. However, with the usage of dual action polisher, more pressure and "negative" pressure doesn't really apply.
Thanks DAE!
You have taught me many techniques, giving you love from california! Do you guys ship to America?
Hey Robear Le, thanks for watching and commenting :) Yes we do ship to the America and few weeks from now, we’ll have a store in Amazon US carrying some of our compounds
Osren compound yang bagus, aku pengguna compound osren 50 dan 46 , pekerjaan jadi cepat, sayang diindonesia penjualan sangat tidak lengkap ,sukses selalu osren
Be less agressive! Lesson learned!