This is well timed Ted. I was given the opportunity by FX to test the .22 Superior Heavy liner which I put in a Raptor by JSAR. It shot well however I removed the choke and it became a laser! the choke was very tight. 5 thou tight which struck me as odd as Matt Dubber stated that they put only the slightest choke on the Heavy liner and saw a marked increase in accuracy. this almost 300% tighter than most chokes by leading barrel manufactures. Mine was slugs at .1795 lands for the barrel and the choke slugs in at .2130. So in reality, it is a .213 rather than a .22 barrel as far as the projectile flying thur the air is concerned. I double wrapped the liner with cf twil tubing and it is very stiff, ending up with what amounts to an extremely light bull barrel. I did the same with a Redmans liner bought from Brownell's Gun Smighting supply that actually slugs at .2232. it is a very accurate liner. The FX is going to have to really strut its stuff to beat it! I would love to see FX offer a true .22 barrel that the many casters can use, as there are no molds in such small sizes as the liner requires. Necessitating a huge amount of sizing. Slug shooting has really taken off and many are casting their own for their guns. I have been at this for 11 years now and learned a lot in the process. #1, tight chokes do not do well with a wide variety of slugs and lead harnesses. It should work fine with what is basically a hollow slug such as FX is making available. However, I have reservations about the very tight chokes doing well with a wide range of both slugs, and alloy mixes. Fingers Crossed and will be watching your results. KnifeMaker u
Awesome news, Ted!! You heard our requests. Not sure about .25, but I know .22 700mm SSTX and SSTX Heavy are a lot tighter bore than my .22 regular STX and lowered the muzzle velocity 30 fps or so, using the same projectile. I had to tune "up" to get same MV. Ten shot groups at 75 or 100 yard depending on wind conditions with Kings, Heavies, and some slugs should show us some differences. Please check the twist rates on each barrel(people are always asking for that info). And please tell us approx. how many pellets since cleaning barrels. Sooooo looking forward to your tests😁.
@@defooraap Well, clay is harder to penetrate than water, and there is still a projectile left to look at; especially if it is a solid like the Huben slug: ruclips.net/video/xXhg9J44mWk/видео.html ruclips.net/video/ZxViNCGkfjY/видео.html Else, use loosely bundled cotton fiber to catch projectile.
Maybe make an accuracy to weight to expense chart for each barrel.. Test each barrels accuracy with different loads and velocities and then you can see which is the best barrel for each category or overall?
Consistent torque on the jam nut and consistent placement (or absence) of the o-rings? My thinking is, the amount of torque on the jam nut will affect the tension the liner is under. Differences could potentially cause differences between barrels. And regarding the o-rings, hypothetically they do alter performance, at least FX certainly claims so. (reducing vibration and so forth) If that is the case, an o-ring damping the barrel at a node would be very different than an o-ring damping the barrel between nodes. The location of nodes though would be based on barrel length as well as tension, just like the frequency of a guitar string varies by length and tension. Just a thought, albeit perhaps an over-ambitious one. Really, fully bedding the liners in their respective sleeves would hypothetically maximize performance, but the difference in performance between any two barrels may exceed the difference in performance between two different barrel systems. I have been planning to do exactly that, bed a liner in its outer barrel and empirically compare before and after performance, but there are just so many experiments and so little time to do them.
HoldOver Vlog What is the question you are trying to answer? I think that with any highly customizable system there’s a temptation to say the best is that with which you can do many things, whereas for most people the point of customization is to be able to tweak a gun to do the one or two things you want it to do. So for you the question might be: what is the liner-pellet/slug combination best suited to reliably and consistently hitting a European starling in the head at 100 yards? There may be very, very few people who have that specific requirement, but by having a clear sense of what you want from a gun; having the ability to set it up to perform that task; and, then executing, is interesting and valuable. To me that’s far more meaningful than saying at the end of your experiment that liner ‘x’ with projectile ‘y’ is the ‘best’. Best for what, for whom and why? And, given how good a shot you are, it might just be that FX should get out of making guns and instead start trying to clone you because you could shoot the pants of most people regardless of hardware...
Hi Ted, long time air guy here. I gave you full credit for my 2017 sport class win in Phoenix. How about the superior heavy barrel vs the straight slug barrel? Look forward to seeing you again in competition. Keith Comey.
The 1st PCP I bought was the FX Bobcat back when AOA sold them, it wasn't even regulate at the time but for an additional $$$ you could have them reg it for you. Needless to say I was skeptical but after watching your reviews enough I bought one and you were right on the money. Since then I have learned a lot from your videos. Thanks for all the info you have shared.
Hey bud, this doesn’t have a damn thing to do with FX barrels. This is to do with the .25 Avenger. I got mine 5 days ago and I set the reg at 2200 psi. 5 min later it reads 2900 psi. Should I ask for a new reg or seal for the reg? Need help cause God knows when they will have a replacement gun. Still thanks for the video...you really know how to make some serious work for yourself buddy. Stay well, stay safe, and God Bless my friend.
best thing you can do is taking it apart relase al pressure!!!, clean everything ,replace al orings ,with quality orings from the right dimensions and hardness ,lube the orings a litlle bit with 100% silicon oil. do you use clean dry air to fill it. the reg is leaking tru to the plenum i think ,you can order eventual a reg ( made to fit )at huma-air.com, what you also can do, if there is a debris somewhere is to bleed the gun via the hammer valve with a controled opening ,screw the hammer against the valve or something ,so al air is fast relased tru the barrel ,the debris may blow out
I had good results shooting NSA 29.5 in .25 using the superior liner (600mm). The results were the same as the slug liner. With that weight. I got clover leaf groups with NSA 36.2 @50 yds. I did not do anymore test because I sent my impact mk2 in to SPAW for the plenum upgrade. Those results were with the superior (700mm). NSA 33.5 didn’t do well. Waiting to get the superior heavy in 700
Very cool Ted, I think you are right, I don’t think that there will only be one, that will rule them all, but I think you have to make a choice to which ammo you like to shoot, slugs or pellets. The advantage you have, is that you have more than one rifle to set up one for each pellets and slugs
Ok I'm over it. I have the .25cal Impact and the power Plenum was added. I have the smooth twist x. My gun does not like the Hybrids at all. Even at 50yds my pattern was 3-4". NOT GOOD ENOUGH. I'm back to shooting pellets. Both 25gr and 34gr do great dime size hole.. but I still get that odd ''flyer''. (No it's not me. I know enough when I'm the problem. So I'm not including those in anything here). I wish there was a way to check the barrel to see if there's a problem with it... maybe a new liner will help but that's another "...hundred bones'' coming out of my pocket. For 2k these guns should be PERFECT right outta the box. ... so what ya waiting for... get shootin' my friend. Really really like have you back.
I had a similar problem shooting @50 yd hitting the same hole over & over moved the gun position a bit and it was 6” off being a brand new it couldn’t be the gun I start working on the scope and it was still moving around my problem was someone at FX or Utah Airguns didn’t tighten the barrel
HoldOver Vlog I have a flashlight that sounds like that when I replace the rechargeable batteries, which is often, unfortunately I can’t lube it because of grounding issues ! 😖
Ted, have you had a chance to shoot Zbroia Bullpup or any of there rifles. I'm really interested in their Sapsan .25 I own a FX dream tac compact .25 my first pcp. I'm very happy with it but i would like a diversified gun assortment. I think shooting similar barrels can complicate the pursuit of accuracy. Changes are subtle and fine within the FX family of barrels. My opinion is having diversity from one gun to another. Fine tuning one gun to another that are distinctively different makes it a lot clearer to see what works best for each gun. Vs. Similar guns having subtle changes that mimic each other. Clearly said if there very different the adjustment made to the gun are easier to see. Your thoughts?
"It just gets way to complicated." Ahhh...it is already way to complicated. :-) Gotta love Fx"s attempts to please everyone. But, can you please everyone? I have the original impact with the original FX smooth twist. I ain't gonna "upgrade" "improve" or "modify" my rifle. I live a simple life.
Hey Ted, u just mentioned that the gun u won with has a 700mm original smooth twist barrel, while in your previous old video, u mentioned it’s a standard 600mm barrel with only a longer shroud.
I replaced my slug liner A 700 mm 25 cal with a superior heavy. I’m disappointed with the results. Specially with the slugs. I wasted a few thousand slugs trying to tune it with no luck. It will be very interesting to see your results Ted.
Some of the "old" liners will shoot some ammo as good or better than the "newer" at some distances for sure. Newer ones are supposed to be waay more consistent and work with a wider range of ammo
Hello Ted love your video's, you are the reason I just picked up an impact in .30. I've had air rifles most my life but new to pcp and fx airguns, I've seen so many video's on how to set up and tune them and could use some advice. (Remember its my first one thanks to you! )
Hey Ted you are doing the test with .25 at 100yrds but it would be nice to know how low could you go with the speed for uk 12ftlb legal rifles ,obviously you won’t get to 100 with those ,
Hehhe. I agree that FX's barrel names are starting to sound like all the names of children in San Francisco. :) Hello, I am Audrey Beumount-Callahan-Lopez-Smith-Fonzerelly-McQuack. :)
The only problem with this, or any other barrel test, is that one of the primary factors affecting group size is the projectile/barrel fit. Thus your test results could be driven, not by the barrel rifling, , support etc., but simply by the fact that one barrel just happens to be the right diameter for the projectiles you are testing. How are you going to get around this problem to ensure you are really testing what you want to test?
this got me thinking a wildcat has not the power as the Impact, but ... if you have the Wildcat MKIII with 300cc alu cylinder, what would be the best choice? shooting the 25,39G. .25. pellets, or. Shooting .22 with the same grain slugs ? curious what you think on this (smaller caliper to have more fps on the slug?). distances 60 and 90 yards OR the .25 slugs with more grain?
Thanks for all the information Ted. Do you know what's the word from FX in regard to when they will be offering barrels for the Wildcat MKIII Compact/Sniper? Thanks
So what would be the likely twist rate of the Impact X .30 600mm barrel that I just bought, new, at the end of Jan 2021 be? Would have the Superior "slow" STX 1:37? If I wanted to verify, is it stamped some where on the barrel or otherwise visually identifiable?
Are you going to just upgrade to the new supervisor liner? I have 9 fx rifles including the boss which we don’t heard anything about it . Just wondering if you will upgrade or keep it the way they are
Teresa and I were wondering about tuning,,. Low reg high on the hammer for a given speed or higher reg and just light bump from the hammer.. your thoughts? 😊
Never low reg with a slamming hammer. That is a recipe for problems. Better to have it the other way around. But, that can create issues if you've gone too light on the hammer or too heavy on the reg (it can cause valve locking). This question actually requires a couple pages of typing to address it properly. Maybe something for a future video....:)
We need to chill tf out with these barrels man shit is getting waaaaaaayy too complicated with airguns these days. You buy one FX barrel next day another one is released...
No one has ever asked me that. Hmmm. Yes - I would say .22 and .25 are the sweet spot for dreamlines. .25 and .30 for the Impact. This isn't to say a .30 dreamline or a .17 impact can't be a tack driver. Just that each platform lends itself better to different calibers.
Is your .30 STX or Superior? Man, I would shoot em all through each barrel and see what sticks!! I have a .30 Crown with an STX Barrel and it out shoots everything in the cabinet (with the exception of my .22 RedWolf HP which is apparently alien technology in an airgun....It shoots THAT good with the footnote of ONLY 25.39 redesigns on high and 18.13 on low and FX Hybrids on medium....It refuses to shoot anything else)! My Impact is in a tie for 3rd with my FX Boss both .30. Damn random tangent anyways.....Shoot em all through each barrel. If FX is right heavier lead will shoot better from the Superior Heavy liner (spoiler alert NOT the case, at least in my testing of the 34 grain JSB in .25....The standard Superior liner for me anyways shoots em slightly better). Another thing to look for is speed.....Does a Superior or Heavy shoot better at 900 FPS what about at 850 which is better? Shoot each ammo through each barrel at ludicrous speed then slow em down to say 850-870 and see if it makes a difference. Ok, well that was to many cups of coffee rambling post that pry made no sense but got to watch a Ted video!! Stay Safe!!
Yes they do. Right now superior barrels for all calibers and lengths - except .30. I think they are still working on that caliber. Don't know for sure though.
I know as a manufacturer we’re supposed to sit on the sidelines and be quiet, but tired of seeing this stupid, ignorant line of thinking. So let’s look at this rationally. If FX we’re trying to “empty your pocket” wouldn’t we just come out with new barrel technology like the superior, release it as the Impact MK3 and only sell it as a new rifle? Instead we improve the technology, and sell it to any existing FX owner (modern rifles from the last 4-5 years to be exact) a liner that costs $110 to upgrade their rifle to be a great ad a brand new Impact? That’s our plan to empty your pocket? We’re just being greedy huh? Please objectively and rationally tell me how that makes any sense. Okay. I’m done. Back to quietly observing from the sidelines... 😁
@@FXAirguns Don't you know FX acesseries are nearly worth buying a new other rifle, you have just shown in your recent videos 300 dollars guns, there is no much difference with FX Airguns, you maybe rich but atleast think for the poor too
FXAirguns lol smash em! 😂, seriously though can we lower the price on your hybrids alittle? Or maybe get a better quantity maybe 150 or 175 instead. Love your intuition and products even though I’ve never owned any I would love to just can’t afford them. Keep grinding boys!
FXAirguns Sorry, I don’t think people speak with regards to objectivity in this day in age. Unfortunately, people like to use emotive words to get their inane and baseless points across. You give em facts, they’ll give you fiction and opinions. However, like you guys at FX, I always try to inform the uninformed. Especially when it comes to sensitive people who watch hunting videos. I’m glad that as the manufacturer, you all listen to the community and respond to us too. Cheers!
This is where you shine Ted, putting in the extra effort, I for one appreciate it.
thank you.
Greetings, TED
Thank you for digging into the different new FX Impact barrels. A very short straight-to-the-point explanation.
Thank you Ted for doing the barrel liner crunching
This is well timed Ted. I was given the opportunity by FX to test the .22 Superior Heavy liner which I put in a Raptor by JSAR. It shot well however I removed the choke and it became a laser! the choke was very tight. 5 thou tight which struck me as odd as Matt Dubber stated that they put only the slightest choke on the Heavy liner and saw a marked increase in accuracy. this almost 300% tighter than most chokes by leading barrel manufactures. Mine was slugs at .1795 lands for the barrel and the choke slugs in at .2130. So in reality, it is a .213 rather than a .22 barrel as far as the projectile flying thur the air is concerned. I double wrapped the liner with cf twil tubing and it is very stiff, ending up with what amounts to an extremely light bull barrel. I did the same with a
Redmans liner bought from Brownell's Gun Smighting supply that actually slugs at .2232. it is a very accurate liner. The FX is going to have to really strut its stuff to beat it!
I would love to see FX offer a true .22 barrel that the many casters can use, as there are no molds in such small sizes as the liner requires. Necessitating a huge amount of sizing. Slug shooting has really taken off and many are casting their own for their guns. I have been at this for 11 years now and learned a lot in the process. #1, tight chokes do not do well with a wide variety of slugs and lead harnesses. It should work fine with what is basically a hollow slug such as FX is making available. However, I have reservations about the very tight chokes doing well with a wide range of both slugs, and alloy mixes.
Fingers Crossed and will be watching your results.
KnifeMaker
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It's pretty clear why Ted is the top dog in the video RUclips World. Clear and succinct and well-thought-out.
Awesome news, Ted!! You heard our requests.
Not sure about .25, but I know .22 700mm SSTX and SSTX Heavy are a lot tighter bore than my .22 regular STX and lowered the muzzle velocity 30 fps or so, using the same projectile. I had to tune "up" to get same MV.
Ten shot groups at 75 or 100 yard depending on wind conditions with Kings, Heavies, and some slugs should show us some differences. Please check the twist rates on each barrel(people are always asking for that info). And please tell us approx. how many pellets since cleaning barrels.
Sooooo looking forward to your tests😁.
So glad to see you back and your channel up and running! :)
Your experiment videos are the best. If I'm not learning it's just a comershal. Your the best.
Maybe try to retrieve a pellet to see what the rifling marks look like in comparison to one another? Looking forward to see what the differences are
Shoot it into water to minimize distortion.
@@rickoshea8138 Pretty sure at those velocities the impact on water will be the same as on concrete.
@@defooraap Well, clay is harder to penetrate than water, and there is still a projectile left to look at; especially if it is a solid like the Huben slug: ruclips.net/video/xXhg9J44mWk/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/ZxViNCGkfjY/видео.html
Else, use loosely bundled cotton fiber to catch projectile.
Great information Ted. Thank you for the vid. Love the fish hands@3:27😁🤙🏽🍍🍍
Excellent, thank you. It only took me 4 hours to find your video
Wife says you have cute little piggys Teddy Bear, she won’t let me buy an FX for her birthday 🤷🏻♂️. Thanks for the information.
Give me your ideas to get the most out of this experiment.
Speak now, or forever hold your peace. 😜
FX needs to pull there heads out of there asses, and wait till they get one thing right before making another
Maybe make an accuracy to weight to expense chart for each barrel.. Test each barrels accuracy with different loads and velocities and then you can see which is the best barrel for each category or overall?
Consistent torque on the jam nut and consistent placement (or absence) of the o-rings? My thinking is, the amount of torque on the jam nut will affect the tension the liner is under. Differences could potentially cause differences between barrels. And regarding the o-rings, hypothetically they do alter performance, at least FX certainly claims so. (reducing vibration and so forth) If that is the case, an o-ring damping the barrel at a node would be very different than an o-ring damping the barrel between nodes. The location of nodes though would be based on barrel length as well as tension, just like the frequency of a guitar string varies by length and tension.
Just a thought, albeit perhaps an over-ambitious one. Really, fully bedding the liners in their respective sleeves would hypothetically maximize performance, but the difference in performance between any two barrels may exceed the difference in performance between two different barrel systems. I have been planning to do exactly that, bed a liner in its outer barrel and empirically compare before and after performance, but there are just so many experiments and so little time to do them.
HoldOver Vlog What is the question you are trying to answer? I think that with any highly customizable system there’s a temptation to say the best is that with which you can do many things, whereas for most people the point of customization is to be able to tweak a gun to do the one or two things you want it to do. So for you the question might be: what is the liner-pellet/slug combination best suited to reliably and consistently hitting a European starling in the head at 100 yards? There may be very, very few people who have that specific requirement, but by having a clear sense of what you want from a gun; having the ability to set it up to perform that task; and, then executing, is interesting and valuable. To me that’s far more meaningful than saying at the end of your experiment that liner ‘x’ with projectile ‘y’ is the ‘best’. Best for what, for whom and why? And, given how good a shot you are, it might just be that FX should get out of making guns and instead start trying to clone you because you could shoot the pants of most people regardless of hardware...
Hi Ted, long time air guy here. I gave you full credit for my 2017 sport class win in Phoenix. How about the superior heavy barrel vs the straight slug barrel? Look forward to seeing you again in competition. Keith Comey.
The 1st PCP I bought was the FX Bobcat back when AOA sold them, it wasn't even regulate at the time but for an additional $$$ you could have them reg it for you. Needless to say I was skeptical but after watching your reviews enough I bought one and you were right on the money. Since then I have learned a lot from your videos. Thanks for all the info you have shared.
Always awesome to view your videos Ted! You are a major inspiration for me, thank you and keep on inspiring me and all of your many fans!
Can't wait to see the results
Oh DUDE... this was just a teaser!!! You're mean boy!
Hey bud, this doesn’t have a damn thing to do with FX barrels. This is to do with the .25 Avenger. I got mine 5 days ago and I set the reg at 2200 psi. 5 min later it reads 2900 psi. Should I ask for a new reg or seal for the reg? Need help cause God knows when they will have a replacement gun. Still thanks for the video...you really know how to make some serious work for yourself buddy. Stay well, stay safe, and God Bless my friend.
did the gun heat up?
best thing you can do is taking it apart relase al pressure!!!, clean everything ,replace al orings ,with quality orings from the right dimensions and hardness ,lube the orings a litlle bit with 100% silicon oil. do you use clean dry air to fill it. the reg is leaking tru to the plenum i think ,you can order eventual a reg ( made to fit )at huma-air.com, what you also can do, if there is a debris somewhere is to bleed the gun via the hammer valve with a controled opening ,screw the hammer against the valve or something ,so al air is fast relased tru the barrel ,the debris may blow out
I had good results shooting NSA 29.5 in .25 using the superior liner (600mm). The results were the same as the slug liner. With that weight. I got clover leaf groups with NSA 36.2 @50 yds. I did not do anymore test because I sent my impact mk2 in to SPAW for the plenum upgrade. Those results were with the superior (700mm). NSA 33.5 didn’t do well. Waiting to get the superior heavy in 700
Very cool Ted, I think you are right, I don’t think that there will only be one, that will rule them all, but I think you have to make a choice to which ammo you like to shoot, slugs or pellets. The advantage you have, is that you have more than one rifle to set up one for each pellets and slugs
Sweet can’t wait for the results!👍
Thanks Mate, good to understand the science behind it all
Looking forward to the test Ted. ;)
With barrel harmonics it would seem the superior heavy would be your best bet for all around performance, look forward to your testing !
Using a barrel that isn’t a thin as a straw would be even better.
Ok I'm over it. I have the .25cal Impact and the power Plenum was added. I have the smooth twist x. My gun does not like the Hybrids at all. Even at 50yds my pattern was 3-4". NOT GOOD ENOUGH. I'm back to shooting pellets. Both 25gr and 34gr do great dime size hole.. but I still get that odd ''flyer''. (No it's not me. I know enough when I'm the problem. So I'm not including those in anything here). I wish there was a way to check the barrel to see if there's a problem with it... maybe a new liner will help but that's another "...hundred bones'' coming out of my pocket. For 2k these guns should be PERFECT right outta the box. ... so what ya waiting for... get shootin' my friend. Really really like have you back.
I had a similar problem shooting @50 yd hitting the same hole over & over moved the gun position a bit and it was 6” off being a brand new it couldn’t be the gun I start working on the scope and it was still moving around my problem was someone at FX or Utah Airguns didn’t tighten the barrel
Cheers Ted 👍
5 impacts...... How many more are you hiding? 😆
Good to see someone pay attention to the .25. Seems like it’s taken a back seat to the .22 and the .30.
looking forward to the next one well done ted
🤯 $10,000+💰 in fx impacts!!!💸
🥃cheers🍻
Awesome info Ted thanks for sharing buddy bsafe
😃 Thanks Ted This is really interesting stuff Thanks again
Love your videos, I been watching for a long time, but I would really like to see you put some time into something with "Made in the USA" stamp on it
Here’s an idea...oil the damn screw grooves on the smooth twist barrel to get rid of that wretched noise lol.
😆 Did that right after I stopped recording.
HoldOver Vlog I have a flashlight that sounds like that when I replace the rechargeable batteries, which is often, unfortunately I can’t lube it because of grounding issues ! 😖
Can’t wait, I’ve really been struggling to figure out what barrel to go with on my five impacts as well🤨
That's why I'm here. 😄
Nice work Ted!
Ted, have you had a chance to shoot Zbroia Bullpup or any of there rifles. I'm really interested in their Sapsan .25 I own a FX dream tac compact .25 my first pcp. I'm very happy with it but i would like a diversified gun assortment. I think shooting similar barrels can complicate the pursuit of accuracy. Changes are subtle and fine within the FX family of barrels. My opinion is having diversity from one gun to another. Fine tuning one gun to another that are distinctively different makes it a lot clearer to see what works best for each gun. Vs. Similar guns having subtle changes that mimic each other. Clearly said if there very different the adjustment made to the gun are easier to see. Your thoughts?
Can't wait to see the results. On a side note, EDgun Leshiy 2, any interest or plan to review?
No plans. But, would welcome the opportunity. 👍
reminded me of chalk on a blackboard when i was a kid..lol
"It just gets way to complicated." Ahhh...it is already way to complicated. :-) Gotta love Fx"s attempts to please everyone. But, can you please everyone? I have the original impact with the original FX smooth twist. I ain't gonna "upgrade" "improve" or "modify" my rifle. I live a simple life.
Pretty sure you and I could be friends. :)
It will be interesting to see what barrel will be the king 🤴 of them all.
Unlikely that there will be "one barrel to rule them all". But, maybe......that's why I test. :)
Hey Ted, u just mentioned that the gun u won with has a 700mm original smooth twist barrel, while in your previous old video, u mentioned it’s a standard 600mm barrel with only a longer shroud.
Thanks for the reply cheers Dean
Awesome info
I replaced my slug liner A 700 mm 25 cal with a superior heavy. I’m disappointed with the results. Specially with the slugs. I wasted a few thousand slugs trying to tune it with no luck. It will be very interesting to see your results Ted.
So the "old ones" are the inferior liners? 🤣
😂 I'll pass on your marketing strategy to FX.
Some of the "old" liners will shoot some ammo as good or better than the "newer" at some distances for sure. Newer ones are supposed to be waay more consistent and work with a wider range of ammo
Hello Ted love your video's, you are the reason I just picked up an impact in .30. I've had air rifles most my life but new to pcp and fx airguns, I've seen so many video's on how to set up and tune them and could use some advice. (Remember its my first one thanks to you! )
Get an Airforce Condor...Nice, powerful, almost none air leaking spots, Great Price and Made in América...
So when exactly are you going to publish the actual results of all your testing???
4:04 If U mean in hunting I agree . But not air efficiency . U get more shuts out of a .22 with good hunting results than of a .25 cal !! 😏
Hey Ted you are doing the test with .25 at 100yrds but it would be nice to know how low could you go with the speed for uk 12ftlb legal rifles ,obviously you won’t get to 100 with those ,
Which barrel would you choos If you could only pick one
What about the smooth twist x superior x coming out in September?
Hehhe. I agree that FX's barrel names are starting to sound like all the names of children in San Francisco. :) Hello, I am Audrey Beumount-Callahan-Lopez-Smith-Fonzerelly-McQuack. :)
The only problem with this, or any other barrel test, is that one of the primary factors affecting group size is the projectile/barrel fit. Thus your test results could be driven, not by the barrel rifling, , support etc., but simply by the fact that one barrel just happens to be the right diameter for the projectiles you are testing. How are you going to get around this problem to ensure you are really testing what you want to test?
this got me thinking
a wildcat has not the power as the Impact, but ... if you have the Wildcat MKIII
with 300cc alu cylinder, what would be the best choice?
shooting the 25,39G. .25. pellets, or. Shooting .22 with the same grain slugs ? curious what you think on this (smaller caliper to have more fps on the slug?). distances 60 and 90 yards
OR
the .25 slugs with more grain?
The best
subscribed.
Thank you for explaining. Now this may sound silly but can I install a superior heavy barrel on the crown 👑? Thanks for the info !!
Thanks for all the information Ted. Do you know what's the word from FX in regard to when they will be offering barrels for the Wildcat MKIII Compact/Sniper? Thanks
FX USA just received stock and dealers can order them from us. Call your favorite dealer and check if they have them on order from us.
@@FXAirguns Outstanding, I will..Thanks.
@@FXAirgunsunfortunately my dealer didn't get them yet.. Do you know what will be the approximate MSRP for the .25 barrel system?
You need to produce more hunting videos Ted! If it flies it dies!
Do you have any .22 benjamin marauder for sale?
Im looking forward to see that vid. I thought your old Impact you won the benchR with were 600mm ST and not 700 ? :)
What kind of barrel or mods do you have in your .30cal, that it's so accurate?
So what would be the likely twist rate of the Impact X .30 600mm barrel that I just bought, new, at the end of Jan 2021 be? Would have the Superior "slow" STX 1:37? If I wanted to verify, is it stamped some where on the barrel or otherwise visually identifiable?
Will any of these work or improve on the Dreamline Classic?
Hi Ted. I have to ask, the winning combination for ST barrel from 2016. was that with a 600mm or 700mm barrel? because I thought the 700mm came later?
Just received my .22 Dreamline lite stx barrel and accuracy is sublime. If I understand correctly I just bought a rifle with an inferior barrel... 🤔😂
I too am skeptical that my .30 impact will ever be beaten in a 10-shot group contest. But, that's why I test. I gotta know for myself!!! :) 👍
Are you going to just upgrade to the new supervisor liner? I have 9 fx rifles including the boss which we don’t heard anything about it . Just wondering if you will upgrade or keep it the way they are
Hi Ted looking forward to the comparison, 1 Question will the smooth twist shoot the slugs or hybrids.cheers Dean.
Early reports say "no". But, JSB had alluded to me that their new pellets just might....
when will you test the .35 's
He did already, .30 vs .35 i believe.
Is 30 CAL better than 25 CAL as far as accuracy ?
Does FX barrels have a crown?
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Hi
Can you tell me if the barrel fx20010 S1X barrel upgrade accept slugs.??
What’s your thoughts on the barrel tuner
Do you know what weight JSB is using?
Nope. Not yet. You can bet I'll post on IG and FB the second they arrive. 👍
Teresa and I were wondering about tuning,,. Low reg high on the hammer for a given speed or higher reg and just light bump from the hammer.. your thoughts? 😊
Never low reg with a slamming hammer. That is a recipe for problems. Better to have it the other way around. But, that can create issues if you've gone too light on the hammer or too heavy on the reg (it can cause valve locking). This question actually requires a couple pages of typing to address it properly. Maybe something for a future video....:)
@@HoldOverVlog perfect great idea 👍
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Well alrighty then.
We need to chill tf out with these barrels man shit is getting waaaaaaayy too complicated with airguns these days. You buy one FX barrel next day another one is released...
There's about 12 to 15000 thousand bucks worth of air guns. Wow. I can't even afford the scope that goes atop one of them guns, 😒😕lol
Who the hell can afford around ,$7,000 in air rifles. Damn making bank
$7k is probably about what the scopes on those five guns in the video cost.
So what about the slug liner barrel?
Simple sense...
Bin it and get a loather walther solid barrel
Do you think 25 cal is the sweet spot for FX Dreamlines, also?
No one has ever asked me that. Hmmm. Yes - I would say .22 and .25 are the sweet spot for dreamlines. .25 and .30 for the Impact. This isn't to say a .30 dreamline or a .17 impact can't be a tack driver. Just that each platform lends itself better to different calibers.
Is your .30 STX or Superior?
Man, I would shoot em all through each barrel and see what sticks!!
I have a .30 Crown with an STX Barrel and it out shoots everything in the cabinet (with the exception of my .22 RedWolf HP which is apparently alien technology in an airgun....It shoots THAT good with the footnote of ONLY 25.39 redesigns on high and 18.13 on low and FX Hybrids on medium....It refuses to shoot anything else)!
My Impact is in a tie for 3rd with my FX Boss both .30.
Damn random tangent anyways.....Shoot em all through each barrel.
If FX is right heavier lead will shoot better from the Superior Heavy liner (spoiler alert NOT the case, at least in my testing of the 34 grain JSB in .25....The standard Superior liner for me anyways shoots em slightly better).
Another thing to look for is speed.....Does a Superior or Heavy shoot better at 900 FPS what about at 850 which is better?
Shoot each ammo through each barrel at ludicrous speed then slow em down to say 850-870 and see if it makes a difference.
Ok, well that was to many cups of coffee rambling post that pry made no sense but got to watch a Ted video!!
Stay Safe!!
My .30 is a 2018 STX barrel. And great ideas!
cant watch sorry .. can you mute that?
do they make a 22 cal 700mm superior heavy for slugs?
Yes they do. Right now superior barrels for all calibers and lengths - except .30. I think they are still working on that caliber. Don't know for sure though.
Improvement ? No ... ! We are just confused ! which for what at last ?!
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Come on man where's the video
When you hunting again, misyou shooting longrange
All hunting and cooking is on my TedsHoldOver channel. This channel is reserved for experiments/reviews/tutorials/etc.
i bet money that you have no idea how many cost an impactX or wildcat.😉
What's wrong with simply using a proper barrel like a LW?
Ted, it's all business to empty your pocket, there will be no much difference
I know as a manufacturer we’re supposed to sit on the sidelines and be quiet, but tired of seeing this stupid, ignorant line of thinking. So let’s look at this rationally. If FX we’re trying to “empty your pocket” wouldn’t we just come out with new barrel technology like the superior, release it as the Impact MK3 and only sell it as a new rifle? Instead we improve the technology, and sell it to any existing FX owner (modern rifles from the last 4-5 years to be exact) a liner that costs $110 to upgrade their rifle to be a great ad a brand new Impact? That’s our plan to empty your pocket? We’re just being greedy huh? Please objectively and rationally tell me how that makes any sense. Okay. I’m done. Back to quietly observing from the sidelines... 😁
@@FXAirguns Don't you know FX acesseries are nearly worth buying a new other rifle, you have just shown in your recent videos 300 dollars guns, there is no much difference with FX Airguns, you maybe rich but atleast think for the poor too
@@FXAirguns Haha man I sure don't mind you guys leaving the sidelines this is great
FXAirguns lol smash em! 😂, seriously though can we lower the price on your hybrids alittle? Or maybe get a better quantity maybe 150 or 175 instead. Love your intuition and products even though I’ve never owned any I would love to just can’t afford them. Keep grinding boys!
FXAirguns Sorry, I don’t think people speak with regards to objectivity in this day in age. Unfortunately, people like to use emotive words to get their inane and baseless points across. You give em facts, they’ll give you fiction and opinions. However, like you guys at FX, I always try to inform the uninformed. Especially when it comes to sensitive people who watch hunting videos. I’m glad that as the manufacturer, you all listen to the community and respond to us too. Cheers!