If the superior barrel has the same bore diameter and rifling as the heavy they should shoot the same, you are depending on consistency in manufacturing tolerance , what you are doing is appreciated and requires a lot of testing ! You hit the nail on the head with one of your comments, once you find a combination that works stick with it ! Appreciate all the work you do for air guns ! We are so easily manipulated into thinking the next PCP to come along will be the magic gun , you have your magic gun in your 30 caliber , bet your still not satisfied ! 😂 no pun intended because I am the same way , eventually with all the hundreds, maybe thousands of combinations we have one only has to look in the mirror for the real improvement in our accuracy , US !
The second bit of this video stands alone as probably the best advice a shooter could get. Honest and to the point! If it ain't broke don't try fixing it.
If it ain't broke don't try to fix it is a lesson I'm still learning. But I feel I must try or else I don't learn a lot of the time. Keep the info flowing Ted!
OCD. many air rifle enthusiasts "suffer" from an irresistible urge to tinker. Once we called them Shade Tree Mechanics. It's NOT a bad thing, it is just a thing. Once cars became far to complex to tinker with, some chose computers, firearms, and a whole range of things they just could not keep their hands off. :-) Asking these poor souls to be content with an air gun that shoots well shows a misunderstanding of your base Ted. An air rifle that shoots well sits there begging for more tinkering. LOL Anyhoo...I love your videos TED. Now I'm off to tinker with....
Thank u for all the work you do . You have my most HIGH respect for being HONEST with the air gun people an share your findings. I would like to meet u one day an if u would like to go deer hunting in Michigan give me a call
It was you and your Edgun Matador that got me fired and about precision long range airgunning (pidgeon off the top of a grain silo at 109 yds). My Beeman R7 (in .20 cal.) just was not cutting it in the accuracy department. (no matter WHAT those brochures said) Thank You Ted for all your hard work and great videos 👍👍
Thank you. Invaluable information and as my late father told me time and again on the farm, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. Has served me well through out my life. You speak fluent FX Impact.👍
Great and wise comments. Been an air-gunner (and competitive firearms reloader/competitior) 35 years and still have my Beeman R-1 springer tuned by Bob Beeman himself after 10 years of use which I repeated at 20 years (.177 Kodiak Match 10.65 gr pellets sized gave 850 fps and .25" at 50 yds--took a long time to find that match which still works like magic). So yes, keep what works and love it! Finally moved into PCP with a Xisico .25 to learn the basics, which has included a phenomenal amount of testing (11 types, weights, so far). Only 1 was decent. Tried to find a reason....remembered sectional density from my firearms reloading and long distance competition so created a spreadsheet and started measuring and comparing results. Two more new pellets were accurate and their sectional densities were near identical. Just received two others with close stats....cannot wait to see whether this metric is worthwhile for a given barrel. (for pellets sectional density can be based on either head or skirt diameter, for slugs, just the max diameter in the formula (L/W)*M ) Be interested if you find it a good predictor for a given barrel (twist rate and choking are factors).
Just tested the next two pellets (Predator Polymag and H&N Hornet) that had very similar sectional densities to the AirArms Diabolo Field and the JSB Exact Kings. And the answer is "Yes, they shoot nearly identically in POA and MOA!" So for a given barrel the sectional density of the projectile might be a useful selection tool.
Wow Ted. I'm not even a PCP guy. YET. I shoot break barrels and multi pumpers in .177 currently. However, I have learned so much from you and you've guided a little bit of everything I do. I've been able to drop my group sizes by half and am at a plateau of minimal gains at this point and that's what makes me happy. Accurizing and squeezing as much as I can out of so little, including a small budget. Thanks Ted. :-)
This video and the "don't screw with something that shoots well just to chase after the next thing" is a mantra i've embraced. If you're having fun, if you're smiling, keep doing you. Thanks, Ted.
Awesome info as usual! You mentioned Harry from Australia. I'm sure I know exactly who you're referring to. I remember him from way back in the old yellow forum days. He was always really helpful to everyone, seemed like a really cool guy. I picked up some good stuff from him. He taught one cool trick to catch shot pellets without the destruction from target impact. You probably know what I'm talking about, lol! I thought it was cool to hear someone mention him. Enjoying your experiments Ted! 👍
Here I thought you were gonna leaving us hangin the way your last video ended, like a bad movie with that groaner ending ... glad you came through amigo!! Not all of us have a tasty lineup of Impacts like oh I dunno... some guys ;-) and when shooters are seeing the latest videos with velocities steadily increasing matched with great groupings, well im betting some single gun enthusiasts are indeed looking for slight edge no matter how great his might be shooting then only to find out they just maybe went backwards and wished they’d maybe left it alone. But hey that’s what it is to learn huh Keep the info coming Ted, no matter what, FX is still leading the pack. God bless brother
Nice to hear Harry's name. He is a mate of mine and a incredible person and shooter. Probably had a lot to do with where air rifles are today with the world wide interest he generated years ago shooting long range
Awesome video. I can definitely attest to this information about tuning. I tinker with the crosman 2400 co2. I modified the valve, ports, and spring. It wasn't until I installed the variable spring adjuster that I actually started seeing results. I installed a lighter spring inside the valve and lowered the hammer spring. I can send pellets from 100 fps to 560 fps accurately. The hammer distortion is very minimal and I have more precise groupings.
Ted! You just cost me lots of free drinks!! I am a member of our local gun club and a handful of guys and myself have monthly airgun competitions there....Think EBR but with only 6-8 guys!! I have two competition guns, RedWolf HP .22 (still tuning the RedWolf so that has not made its grand debut as yet) and FX Crown Continuum .25 and I use the slug A liner shooting the MK2 heavies or the FX 33.95 and at 905 FPS I bet I would give your .30 a run for its money!! Ever since you posted this I have gotten text after text of guys saying they know my secret now (have used the slug A barrel for a year in the .25 Crown and it whips em every time)!! So I have a feeling the days of drinking for free (winner drinks for free) after our shoots is coming to an end as I see slug A barrels selling out at retailers that had them in stock waiting for the Superior Heavy liner inventory to arrive.... Thanks Ted, thanks!! P.S. 900-915 and try the FX 33.95 as well as the MK2 and get your hands on a 600mm barrel with the slug A liner....Might just surprise you!
Ask Jeff at Trenier about me (Mike Long in WA State) he will give you the run down. Lets just say I gotta be in his top 5 of customers and I am a research NUT so trust me when I say 600mm slug A 33.95 905-915.....Wanna get that half inch 10 shots at 100 TRY it!!
@@HoldOverVlog HOW YOU DOING I WANTED TO ASK YOU A QUESTION FOR A FIRST PCP I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW OUT OF THE TWO RIFLES WHICH ONE WILL BE THE BEST ONE TO BUY WHICH ONE WILL HAVE MORE POWER THE 25 GAUNTLET OR THE 25 AIR VENTURI AVENGERS CAUSE I SEE U HAVE THEM ALL,😂😂 I APPRECIATE IF YOU CAN HELP ME OUT ON THAT THANK YOU KEEP THE VIDEOS COMING THEY'RE GREAT
I bought an Impact Mark ii. The power Plenum was added at no cost. I have the .25 cal STX barrel and had HUGE hopes of flying Hybrids down range at 990 fps. Pattern was about 2 1/2" at 45 yes (size of my backyard range). Total failure. So I figured thatbid settle for the Hades. In my .22 Crown they are deadly to 75yds. And another disappointment. 3'' on my range. Cant comfortably take shots at Tree Rats knowing there's a really good chance I'd miss 2/3rds of the time. Back to the JSB Kings and King Heavys unable to use all the new fangled ammunition. How very disappointing. Now our good friend Ted comes along and explains that I am not the only one. Thank you. I really do appreciate the time and effort that you took to demonstrate all the different barrels and what ammo shot well and what NOT to waste our time on.
This was the best bundle of information yet for all Impact shooters. With no doubt you have saved us a great deal of frustration, money and time. Just some honest information from my side, following massive testing if one wants to shoot the JSB 34 gr Mark 2, the 700mm slug A indexed and tuned to shoot at 905 f/s is a laser gun. My tune is at 100 bar and very low hammer spring tension. Would be happy to share additional information if you wish. All the best
AMEN TED!!! If it shoots well don't touch it!!! Keep up the work my man you're honest and videos helpful as always... I'll be getting the superior liner after watching this as a guy who has never shot anything but pellets out of his FX guns....
In the national guard TAG matches we would show people how to shoot better. It was a competiton, but most people didnt hide their secrets. This allowed younger shooters to learn how to shoot better faster.
Excellent videos Ted thank you so much for doing them and all your time and sharing your results. It makes it easier to make a decision on what kind of barrel works best
Hello ted, very good tests, I am Spanish-speaking and I understand little English, according to your conclusions which is the best liner for warheads and pellets caliber 6.35. Thank you
The emotions from my first Daisy power line 901 got me into this. So yes, I blame that gun for the money I'm about to spend. Still haven't matched that feeling. Never will.
you rock Ted....the other day i took out the FX crown and went from 130 bar to 140 bar....thinking it would be better........it was not....went back down to 130 bar...and got my groups back......i do have some heavier amo coming, but with jsb kings....130 was the best.....also just ordered the superior barrel for my .25........yay!!!!
Great information on all the barrels and what they shoot well. I just wish you had thrown an NSA or VK in the mix so we could see how they did in the slug A vs the sup and sup heavy. But wait, are you saying some groups we see people show on line might not be legit? 😲
Great information Ted. It was very nice of you to state facts and let some of the newer shooters know that much of what they see on line isn’t exactly real...most, or at least a lot of it is cherry picked. I’ve had a hard time deciding between the slug and Superior liner because the slug liner stacks the 34.95 MKII’s unbelievably well but the Superior everything else! Great video, very informative. Stoti
Thanks Ted, tremendous amount of info.! I really appreciate your hard work, takes a lot of time and set up with what you did here. Thanks again, happy new year. 2021 gonna be a lot better
I just shot at 238 card out of a slug a liner using jumbo redesignes at 50 with one day to tune it I think with a little time I can tune that liner to shoot rocks
Ted that 30 cal. Is crazy accurate ... that's my problem I mess with my gun to much and trying to be like the ppl I see on RUclips I need to.leave my gun alone so I guess it's back to the drawing board thanks again buddy bsafe
Thank you Ted for this explanation of your results. I just received my Air Venturi Avenger in .25, left the hammer at the factory setting and set the reg at 2200 psi, and got 914 with JSB Hades 26.54s. Believe you me, I have zero complaints. I was wondering if you have anymore videos coming on this gun? Steve Shally did a extensive video on the .22 Avenger but nobody has on the .25 or .177. The only PCP I have in .177 is a Nova Vista Liberty, also in .22 and their tuned sublimely, cool thing is the Avenger is shooting just as good but I’m concerned for other Avenger owners that are cussing right now because there isn’t any knowledgeable guidance out there on this gun in this caliber. Hey...we love you man and have mad respect for your skills so if you could...can you please make a semi tuning guide for our .25 caliber Avenger...PLEASE? I would be so happy to get others who bought this gun in point.Thank you my friend take care and God bless.
thanks ted appreciate honesty and time in finding these results for us, also the tuning tips, the opposite to gerhards guns both very accurate but more then one way to skin a cat lol
Thank you for the amazingly informative video! I would love a follow up video showing some test results and your thoughts on the superior heavy liner using hybrids/slugs!
I forgot to thankyou omg im sorry I can't thank-you enough for all that information. So helpful to set up my gun. And please in the future. You are the one go to person for for information. Thanks again.
Nice and with some scientific value. I guess you should have let someone else change the Barrels so you didn't know which one you where shooting with. You did change the settings and shot the different ammo at the speeds they are accurate at. Best testing video i found on youtube. Thanks.
Great end results and very objective. I have only experimented with the .22 and have found exactly the same with the STK and slug barrels, my suspicion with the slug A is that if .216 (hybrid and knockout) they dont like the tighter twist and less choke hence the failure to fully stabilise. I have to agree with the trigger comments i cant cope with one a gnat farting will set off and also with the comments on the cherry picking of groups that appear. Now to get a superior and see what works. Oh and lastly yes, if it works perfectly dont tinker!
Nice honest review and great tips.Keep up the great work, we learn every day. At the end of the day it is all about promoting the sport and to get other shooters to improve with us. I only started my channel about 4 months ago and keep to reviewing stuff I bought with my own money, keeps the review 100% honest. (And the bank account empty). Also found that the Superior Liner showed an improvement over the "older" STX. Weirdest thing is that the superior liner doesn't like the JSB KncokOuts as much as the STX liner. Both barrels love the Redesigned's, but the slugs are just better over the long distances.
Thank you Ted, but I, and I think many of us, would like to know how Edguns and Daystates shoots these pellets, hybrids and slugs compared to FX's barrels...
INTERESTING CONCLUSIONS. I did take notes. will be putting this to my tests here. gonna also try the nsa slugs. have had great results with a .22 condor out to 75 yards with them. .
Brilliant Ted! easy, pragmatic and very usefull legend of the barrels and most common FX ammos, Could You please do the same thing in .30 Cal, please, please ,please- 😃
Ted, Thank You Man! I reduced the tension as you recommended and my DreamLite does an avg of 55 fpe with less tension on 3 and I am curious how high it can go w/o stressing the rifle.
Ted, I’ve watched these 2 vids on 25 cal. Liners/projectiles prob 5 times, appreciate you sharing your work! My m3 25 cal shoots 34 grain mk2’s at 905 out of the superior liner REALLY good but I’ve never been able get slugs to even come close to grouping as well. Am I missing the boat by not being able to get slugs to group as well as pellets? My 30cal mk2 impact stx is the same way, 44 grain pellets are extremely accurate and slugs are mediocre. Most of my hunting/target shooting is inside 100-125 yards. Maybe I just suck at tuning…most of your pest videos you are shooting pellets, have you ever found a combo with slugs that is as accurate as you are with pellets? Hope you are doing well!
Nice summary of the results, the only thing is how repeatable are they? If you took five other barrels would the results be the same? Possibly not if the projectile/barrel fit is not quite the same. As for anyone wanting to learn the details of why slugs are different to hybrids etc. I really wouldn't tune into the recommended chanel as the videos on ballistics contain a lot of basic aerodynamic and ballistic mistakes which may mislead viewers.
Ted I know you are an FX Impact guy and I'm fairly new to air guns (but not shooting) I am interested in both the Impact and the Leshiy (the new one) I am being told that the Leshiy is a high end great out of the box backyard shooter where the Impact is a lot more sensitive, and needs babying to achieve the best end result. I know you have both (not the new Leshiy) and would like to hear your honest opinion on newer airgun shooters, Impact or Leshiy. Thank You Love the channel
Hi Ted...I have a mk1 .25 impact with the standard smooth twist....was very surprised to see the results you had using the jsb knockout in the ST....might actually give them a try😉 All the best from the UK 👍
nice to see your good information , you know a lot , this is motivacional to and does for aply in other sections on life !! i do not like soft trigers to , may be for my first soringer at 25 to 28 years ago has only one stage trigger , and in my weirauch h100 t , the trigger comes from fabrick to much soft , i shoot 2 to 3 times without want , great information ted , hope all ok with you , much respect 🇵🇹
wow what a test. thank you. this is giving me the perspective of what i need to get my new purchase to do what i want. Ted i am curious, i am lookin at a 25cal 600mm impact and i plan to swap to a SUperior liner out of the gate in 600mm. I plan to shoot JSB 33.4 and Neilson Slugs... i think that liner would do best for all around do you agree? am i going to have any issues with the 600MM? i am trying to keep the OAL short to hunt and stalk... out of the gate i think it would make sense to buy a FX 35CAL out of the gate, so i have a large bottle and a future large bore barrel, then i can purcahse a 600mm 25 superior with a barrel should and a few mags. does this make sense the route im going? best bang for the buck it seeems 2 cals and the right barrel. otherwise i would be stuck with a 25cal standard barrel i do not think i would use. thank you ted i appreciate your videos keep it up dude! come to west michigan and shoot anytime!
Thanks Ted i have just tried .22 JSB KO in 500mm Superior (wildcat Mk3) and I am still smiling - made me feel like Bob Lee Swagger - I only had time to walk some painted steel out to 140 meters - and to my remaining disbelief I was still getting sub moa and overlapping hit marks in the paint.. and according to strelok I am getting a unprintable BC. (0.3 G1)?
Ted: The man, The Myth, THE LEGEND
The original.
I come here for the honesty. Ted is established as an air Gunner so he does not have to fluff his content to boost his channel.
I watch sponsored youtubers but i take then as entertainer. Ted is the man to watch and learn.
Thanks for all the crazy amount of time and effort you put into filming and editing these recent videos.
That’s exactly what i like: learn so we can buy the right stuf. Thanks . Still the best airgunchannel
How can anyone not like and appreciate this video ?????
If the superior barrel has the same bore diameter and rifling as the heavy they should shoot the same, you are depending on consistency in manufacturing tolerance , what you are doing is appreciated and requires a lot of testing ! You hit the nail on the head with one of your comments, once you find a combination that works stick with it ! Appreciate all the work you do for air guns !
We are so easily manipulated into thinking the next PCP to come along will be the magic gun , you have your magic gun in your 30 caliber , bet your still not satisfied ! 😂 no pun intended because I am the same way , eventually with all the hundreds, maybe thousands of combinations we have one only has to look in the mirror for the real improvement in our accuracy , US !
The second bit of this video stands alone as probably the best advice a shooter could get. Honest and to the point! If it ain't broke don't try fixing it.
I love everything you post, but I love even more that you are POSTING frequently. Thank you for that, Ted. :D
Thank you ted, I appreciate the time and effort 👍🏼
Wow. Ton of great info there. All categorized nice and neat. I like the way your head works. Nice job.
If it ain't broke don't try to fix it is a lesson I'm still learning. But I feel I must try or else I don't learn a lot of the time. Keep the info flowing Ted!
OCD. many air rifle enthusiasts "suffer" from an irresistible urge to tinker. Once we called them Shade Tree Mechanics. It's NOT a bad thing, it is just a thing. Once cars became far to complex to tinker with, some chose computers, firearms, and a whole range of things they just could not keep their hands off. :-) Asking these poor souls to be content with an air gun that shoots well shows a misunderstanding of your base Ted. An air rifle that shoots well sits there begging for more tinkering. LOL Anyhoo...I love your videos TED. Now I'm off to tinker with....
Always the best. I remember 12 years ago you influenced us so much to get into airguns that we all have to thank you buddy
Thank u for all the work you do . You have my most HIGH respect for being HONEST with the air gun people an share your findings. I would like to meet u one day an if u would like to go deer hunting in Michigan give me a call
It was you and your Edgun Matador that got me fired and about precision long range airgunning (pidgeon off the top of a grain silo at 109 yds). My Beeman R7 (in .20 cal.) just was not cutting it in the accuracy department. (no matter WHAT those brochures said) Thank You Ted for all your hard work and great videos 👍👍
Thank you. Invaluable information and as my late father told me time and again on the farm, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. Has served me well through out my life. You speak fluent FX Impact.👍
Great and wise comments. Been an air-gunner (and competitive firearms reloader/competitior) 35 years and still have my Beeman R-1 springer tuned by Bob Beeman himself after 10 years of use which I repeated at 20 years (.177 Kodiak Match 10.65 gr pellets sized gave 850 fps and .25" at 50 yds--took a long time to find that match which still works like magic). So yes, keep what works and love it! Finally moved into PCP with a Xisico .25 to learn the basics, which has included a phenomenal amount of testing (11 types, weights, so far). Only 1 was decent. Tried to find a reason....remembered sectional density from my firearms reloading and long distance competition so created a spreadsheet and started measuring and comparing results. Two more new pellets were accurate and their sectional densities were near identical. Just received two others with close stats....cannot wait to see whether this metric is worthwhile for a given barrel. (for pellets sectional density can be based on either head or skirt diameter, for slugs, just the max diameter in the formula (L/W)*M ) Be interested if you find it a good predictor for a given barrel (twist rate and choking are factors).
Just tested the next two pellets (Predator Polymag and H&N Hornet) that had very similar sectional densities to the AirArms Diabolo Field and the JSB Exact Kings. And the answer is "Yes, they shoot nearly identically in POA and MOA!" So for a given barrel the sectional density of the projectile might be a useful selection tool.
Wow Ted. I'm not even a PCP guy. YET. I shoot break barrels and multi pumpers in .177 currently. However, I have learned so much from you and you've guided a little bit of everything I do. I've been able to drop my group sizes by half and am at a plateau of minimal gains at this point and that's what makes me happy. Accurizing and squeezing as much as I can out of so little, including a small budget. Thanks Ted. :-)
This video and the "don't screw with something that shoots well just to chase after the next thing" is a mantra i've embraced. If you're having fun, if you're smiling, keep doing you. Thanks, Ted.
I agree thank you for your hard work, great information
Great job Ted thanks for all the work lotta time and effort put into determining all this data
excellent work, you saved me a lot of money and a lot of time
I love your commitment to the actual scientific method, refreshing and fun.
Awesome info as usual! You mentioned Harry from Australia. I'm sure I know exactly who you're referring to. I remember him from way back in the old yellow forum days. He was always really helpful to everyone, seemed like a really cool guy. I picked up some good stuff from him. He taught one cool trick to catch shot pellets without the destruction from target impact. You probably know what I'm talking about, lol! I thought it was cool to hear someone mention him. Enjoying your experiments Ted! 👍
Here I thought you were gonna leaving us hangin the way your last video ended, like a bad movie with that groaner ending ... glad you came through amigo!!
Not all of us have a tasty lineup of Impacts like oh I dunno... some guys ;-) and when shooters are seeing the latest videos with velocities steadily increasing matched with great groupings, well im betting some single gun enthusiasts are indeed looking for slight edge no matter how great his might be shooting then only to find out they just maybe went backwards and wished they’d maybe left it alone. But hey that’s what it is to learn huh
Keep the info coming Ted, no matter what, FX is still leading the pack. God bless brother
Nice to hear Harry's name. He is a mate of mine and a incredible person and shooter. Probably had a lot to do with where air rifles are today with the world wide interest he generated years ago shooting long range
Ted, just a simple but heartfelt Thank You. Electronic triggers, aaaaargh
No one comes close to this man. Number 1 in my eyes, sorry Matt
Ted you are a legend and you are speaking to me i am the novice and you are the person I needed to teach me about barrels and projectiles.
Thank you Ted, great information.
Awesome video. I can definitely attest to this information about tuning. I tinker with the crosman 2400 co2. I modified the valve, ports, and spring. It wasn't until I installed the variable spring adjuster that I actually started seeing results. I installed a lighter spring inside the valve and lowered the hammer spring. I can send pellets from 100 fps to 560 fps accurately. The hammer distortion is very minimal and I have more precise groupings.
Ted! You just cost me lots of free drinks!! I am a member of our local gun club and a handful of guys and myself have monthly airgun competitions there....Think EBR but with only 6-8 guys!!
I have two competition guns, RedWolf HP .22 (still tuning the RedWolf so that has not made its grand debut as yet) and FX Crown Continuum .25 and I use the slug A liner shooting the MK2 heavies or the FX 33.95 and at 905 FPS I bet I would give your .30 a run for its money!!
Ever since you posted this I have gotten text after text of guys saying they know my secret now (have used the slug A barrel for a year in the .25 Crown and it whips em every time)!!
So I have a feeling the days of drinking for free (winner drinks for free) after our shoots is coming to an end as I see slug A barrels selling out at retailers that had them in stock waiting for the Superior Heavy liner inventory to arrive....
Thanks Ted, thanks!!
P.S. 900-915 and try the FX 33.95 as well as the MK2 and get your hands on a 600mm barrel with the slug A liner....Might just surprise you!
Sorry about that. I got next round. 🍻
Ask Jeff at Trenier about me (Mike Long in WA State) he will give you the run down.
Lets just say I gotta be in his top 5 of customers and I am a research NUT so trust me when I say 600mm slug A 33.95 905-915.....Wanna get that half inch 10 shots at 100 TRY it!!
@@HoldOverVlog HEY DUDE LOVE YOUR VIDEOS THERE BAD ASS.
@@HoldOverVlog HOW YOU DOING I WANTED TO ASK YOU A QUESTION FOR A FIRST PCP I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW OUT OF THE TWO RIFLES WHICH ONE WILL BE THE BEST ONE TO BUY WHICH ONE WILL HAVE MORE POWER THE 25 GAUNTLET OR THE 25 AIR VENTURI AVENGERS CAUSE I SEE U HAVE THEM ALL,😂😂 I APPRECIATE IF YOU CAN HELP ME OUT ON THAT THANK YOU KEEP THE VIDEOS COMING THEY'RE GREAT
Excellent Ted! No surprises here. The information you provide is always well thought out. Thank you for the time spent and the sharing.
Hi, just want to congratulate you on your American Airgunner Challenge participation. Great show and you kicked ass!!!
I bought an Impact Mark ii. The power Plenum was added at no cost. I have the .25 cal STX barrel and had HUGE hopes of flying Hybrids down range at 990 fps. Pattern was about 2 1/2" at 45 yes (size of my backyard range). Total failure. So I figured thatbid settle for the Hades. In my .22 Crown they are deadly to 75yds. And another disappointment. 3'' on my range. Cant comfortably take shots at Tree Rats knowing there's a really good chance I'd miss 2/3rds of the time. Back to the JSB Kings and King Heavys unable to use all the new fangled ammunition. How very disappointing. Now our good friend Ted comes along and explains that I am not the only one. Thank you. I really do appreciate the time and effort that you took to demonstrate all the different barrels and what ammo shot well and what NOT to waste our time on.
This was the best bundle of information yet for all Impact shooters. With no doubt you have saved us a great deal of frustration, money and time. Just some honest information from my side, following massive testing if one wants to shoot the JSB 34 gr Mark 2, the 700mm slug A indexed and tuned to shoot at 905 f/s is a laser gun. My tune is at 100 bar and very low hammer spring tension.
Would be happy to share additional information if you wish.
All the best
Thank you for all you do Ted. You are the reason I own and hunt with PCP's right now.
AMEN TED!!! If it shoots well don't touch it!!! Keep up the work my man you're honest and videos helpful as always... I'll be getting the superior liner after watching this as a guy who has never shot anything but pellets out of his FX guns....
So good to see you back Ted.
Appreciate the time you put in for us guys
Superior barrel that’s what I got in my dream line and you like it that much thanks Ted
In the national guard TAG matches we would show people how to shoot better. It was a competiton, but most people didnt hide their secrets. This allowed younger shooters to learn how to shoot better faster.
Excellent videos Ted thank you so much for doing them and all your time and sharing your results. It makes it easier to make a decision on what kind of barrel works best
Hugely appreciate all the work you have put into this Ted. Thank you!
Thanks for the content Ted! Your hours of editing aren't unnoticed.
Hello ted, very good tests, I am Spanish-speaking and I understand little English, according to your conclusions which is the best liner for warheads and pellets caliber 6.35. Thank you
Thank you Ted 😎👍👍👍
Thanks for all your hard work and time Ted.... really appreciated! 🙂
Ted givin' out all the secrets in this one gee.
The emotions from my first Daisy power line 901 got me into this. So yes, I blame that gun for the money I'm about to spend. Still haven't matched that feeling. Never will.
Very excellent video Ted. I'm still using the old smooth twist in my .30cal Impact. 50 to 75 yards with Kings is really all I do. Very well done man!
Thank You for this info on the .25 cal.
you rock Ted....the other day i took out the FX crown and went from 130 bar to 140 bar....thinking it would be better........it was not....went back down to 130 bar...and got my groups back......i do have some heavier amo coming, but with jsb kings....130 was the best.....also just ordered the superior barrel for my .25........yay!!!!
Great information on all the barrels and what they shoot well. I just wish you had thrown an NSA or VK in the mix so we could see how they did in the slug A vs the sup and sup heavy. But wait, are you saying some groups we see people show on line might not be legit? 😲
Best test ever ever ever 👍👍👍😎😎
Great information Ted. It was very nice of you to state facts and let some of the newer shooters know that much of what they see on line isn’t exactly real...most, or at least a lot of it is cherry picked. I’ve had a hard time deciding between the slug and Superior liner because the slug liner stacks the 34.95 MKII’s unbelievably well but the Superior everything else! Great video, very informative. Stoti
Ted never disappoints ! True honest talent !
Thanks Ted, tremendous amount of info.! I really appreciate your hard work, takes a lot of time and set up with what you did here. Thanks again, happy new year. 2021 gonna be a lot better
think you would get alot of offers from people help them tune there guns as u know what works & doesnt 🖒
I just shot at 238 card out of a slug a liner using jumbo redesignes at 50 with one day to tune it I think with a little time I can tune that liner to shoot rocks
Ted that 30 cal. Is crazy accurate ... that's my problem I mess with my gun to much and trying to be like the ppl I see on RUclips I need to.leave my gun alone so I guess it's back to the drawing board thanks again buddy bsafe
Thank you Ted for this explanation of your results. I just received my Air Venturi Avenger in .25, left the hammer at the factory setting and set the reg at 2200 psi, and got 914 with JSB Hades 26.54s. Believe you me, I have zero complaints. I was wondering if you have anymore videos coming on this gun? Steve Shally did a extensive video on the .22 Avenger but nobody has on the .25 or .177. The only PCP I have in .177 is a Nova Vista Liberty, also in .22 and their tuned sublimely, cool thing is the Avenger is shooting just as good but I’m concerned for other Avenger owners that are cussing right now because there isn’t any knowledgeable guidance out there on this gun in this caliber. Hey...we love you man and have mad respect for your skills so if you could...can you please make a semi tuning guide for our .25 caliber Avenger...PLEASE? I would be so happy to get others who bought this gun in point.Thank you my friend take care and God bless.
The avenger will show up again. I’m hanging on to it. 👍
HoldOver Vlog cool thank you
Ted you are awesome and honest thanks for sharing buddy bsafe out there in this crazy world
great vid, ive the old smooth twist barrel in .30 860fps stacking jsb 45gr all day long. dont fiddle if its working great advice.
Thank you for your time !!!
thanks ted appreciate honesty and time in finding these results for us, also the tuning tips, the opposite to gerhards guns both very accurate but more then one way to skin a cat lol
Do 30 cal next!! 🎯🎯👌🏽 Love your detailed videos.. one of the best yet... that’s how you do a review!!
Thank you for the amazingly informative video! I would love a follow up video showing some test results and your thoughts on the superior heavy liner using hybrids/slugs!
I forgot to thankyou omg im sorry I can't thank-you enough for all that information. So helpful to set up my gun. And please in the future. You are the one go to person for for information. Thanks again.
Yeah super effort ted thank you top man
Nice and with some scientific value. I guess you should have let someone else change the Barrels so you didn't know which one you where shooting with. You did change the settings and shot the different ammo at the speeds they are accurate at. Best testing video i found on youtube. Thanks.
Great end results and very objective. I have only experimented with the .22 and have found exactly the same with the STK and slug barrels, my suspicion with the slug A is that if .216 (hybrid and knockout) they dont like the tighter twist and less choke hence the failure to fully stabilise. I have to agree with the trigger comments i cant cope with one a gnat farting will set off and also with the comments on the cherry picking of groups that appear. Now to get a superior and see what works. Oh and lastly yes, if it works perfectly dont tinker!
Great info for all competitive target shooters. Amazing 30cal accuracy @ only 95bar.
Nice honest review and great tips.Keep up the great work, we learn every day. At the end of the day it is all about promoting the sport and to get other shooters to improve with us. I only started my channel about 4 months ago and keep to reviewing stuff I bought with my own money, keeps the review 100% honest. (And the bank account empty). Also found that the Superior Liner showed an improvement over the "older" STX. Weirdest thing is that the superior liner doesn't like the JSB KncokOuts as much as the STX liner. Both barrels love the Redesigned's, but the slugs are just better over the long distances.
Just come across your channel man, love your videos and personality bro.
Again Great info...
Thank you Ted, but I, and I think many of us, would like to know how Edguns and Daystates shoots these pellets, hybrids and slugs compared to FX's barrels...
No doubt. But that will be another video. Would have been “editing overload” for one vid
Thanks Ted
OK, I love this stuff and it was a lot of what drew me to airgunning.
INTERESTING CONCLUSIONS. I did take notes. will be putting this to my tests here. gonna also try the nsa slugs. have had great results with a .22 condor out to 75 yards with them. .
Thanks! Thanks! Thanks! From Chile 💪🏻
Brilliant Ted! easy, pragmatic and very usefull legend of the barrels and most common FX ammos, Could You please do the same thing in .30 Cal, please, please ,please- 😃
Hey man The beard is so you 👍🏾
Ted, Thank You Man! I reduced the tension as you recommended and my DreamLite does an avg of 55 fpe with less tension on 3 and I am curious how high it can go w/o stressing the rifle.
Amigo!!! u are the best..Tks for the onesty!!!!
great vid. very informative with just the facts, ma'am.
Anybody else see ted on the american airgunner challenge commercial? I just seen it for wednesday at 7:30pm EST im going to record it.
Ted, I’ve watched these 2 vids on 25 cal. Liners/projectiles prob 5 times, appreciate you sharing your work! My m3 25 cal shoots 34 grain mk2’s at 905 out of the superior liner REALLY good but I’ve never been able get slugs to even come close to grouping as well. Am I missing the boat by not being able to get slugs to group as well as pellets? My 30cal mk2 impact stx is the same way, 44 grain pellets are extremely accurate and slugs are mediocre. Most of my hunting/target shooting is inside 100-125 yards. Maybe I just suck at tuning…most of your pest videos you are shooting pellets, have you ever found a combo with slugs that is as accurate as you are with pellets? Hope you are doing well!
Nice summary of the results, the only thing is how repeatable are they? If you took five other barrels would the results be the same? Possibly not if the projectile/barrel fit is not quite the same.
As for anyone wanting to learn the details of why slugs are different to hybrids etc. I really wouldn't tune into the recommended chanel as the videos on ballistics contain a lot of basic aerodynamic and ballistic mistakes which may mislead viewers.
Great info. Thank you Ted, you da’ man ma’ bradda’!🤙🏽🤙🏽🍍🍍
Great info, thank you!
Ted I know you are an FX Impact guy and I'm fairly new to air guns (but not shooting) I am interested in both the Impact and the Leshiy (the new one) I am being told that the Leshiy is a high end great out of the box backyard shooter where the Impact is a lot more sensitive, and needs babying to achieve the best end result. I know you have both (not the new Leshiy) and would like to hear your honest opinion on newer airgun shooters, Impact or Leshiy. Thank You Love the channel
Hi Ted...I have a mk1 .25 impact with the standard smooth twist....was very surprised to see the results you had using the jsb knockout in the ST....might actually give them a try😉
All the best from the UK 👍
Your like Ted Talks, but Ted Talks about airgun. Both fun to listen to.
nice to see your good information , you know a lot , this is motivacional to and does for aply in other sections on life !! i do not like soft trigers to , may be for my first soringer at 25 to 28 years ago has only one stage trigger , and in my weirauch h100 t , the trigger comes from fabrick to much soft , i shoot 2 to 3 times without want , great information ted , hope all ok with you , much respect 🇵🇹
Excellent wrap up 👍, cant agree more on the topic to not experiment on already well shooting gun.
wow what a test. thank you. this is giving me the perspective of what i need to get my new purchase to do what i want. Ted i am curious, i am lookin at a 25cal 600mm impact and i plan to swap to a SUperior liner out of the gate in 600mm. I plan to shoot JSB 33.4 and Neilson Slugs... i think that liner would do best for all around do you agree? am i going to have any issues with the 600MM? i am trying to keep the OAL short to hunt and stalk... out of the gate i think it would make sense to buy a FX 35CAL out of the gate, so i have a large bottle and a future large bore barrel, then i can purcahse a 600mm 25 superior with a barrel should and a few mags.
does this make sense the route im going? best bang for the buck it seeems 2 cals and the right barrel. otherwise i would be stuck with a 25cal standard barrel i do not think i would use.
thank you ted i appreciate your videos keep it up dude! come to west michigan and shoot anytime!
Hope you get commercial money or other monitary earnings from Utah Airguns :)
This is a very useful comparison. Thank you Ted. You are an inspiration for us airgunners out there. Greetings from Norway! :-)
Thanks Ted i have just tried .22 JSB KO in 500mm Superior (wildcat Mk3) and I am still smiling - made me feel like Bob Lee Swagger - I only had time to walk some painted steel out to 140 meters - and to my remaining disbelief I was still getting sub moa and overlapping hit marks in the paint.. and according to strelok I am getting a unprintable BC. (0.3 G1)?