Moore Mafia ECU Flash / Ride and Review / Ultimate Pops & Bangs Tune / 2024 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Everything you need to know about what this tune will do to your bike and how it will run afterwards. Changes include increased redline to 15,800, decal fuel cut removed, servo deleted, o2 sensor disabled, and much more! It does make for a noticeable horsepower gain in the high rpm's afterwards, and the motorcycle throttle response is much smoother and more predictable; while being more raw and rowdy at the same time. Top speed is increased because of these changes, kqs quick shifter still functions as it should, and our bikes idles perfectly without the rpms fluctuating or revving up high like you may have seen on some bikes with a flash from 2wdw 2wheeldynoworks. Our exhaust setup is a factory header with the catalytic converter removed, and a 360 link pipe to a universal slip-on. Since we de-catted the header, this bike is a flame throwing, fire spitting dragon after the tune. Comment with any questions, enjoy!
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No matter which video of yours I watch, I still learn something new about improving our bikes. It's also great to see how happy you are and come across, keep enjoying and making vids so we all can continue to live our dreams. I'm not riding zx4rr zx6r Or zx6r atm ( few more months waiting for full licence to legally ride without the stress of bike being impounded.
I went 40th anniversary colours but wife prefers your coloured bike and absolutely loves 2025 zx6r black with drop of blue whilst I hate and prefer bright colours. As you can tell by spelling 👍 from Australia ❤💯
I just picked up this bike yesterday for my wife. Been a long time since I had one of my own, but god damn do i miss the chitty chitty bang bangs. I have known about moore mafia for years and they definitely do a great job. Smiles per gallon for sure, you can just tell by your smile, ride safe my friend
You as well man, enjoy the bike! 👍
A whole new meaning to bikes and bangs
Lol how do I always miss ur comments dood! I'm seeing this 2 months later!
as soon as I saw "Ultimate pops and Bangs" I knew you sent it to moore mafia.
Yes sir! 👍
@@bikesandbangs I have a 2021 Ninja 650 right now that I love, but ohhh man I want a ZX6R so bad.
The 650's are good bikes, no doubt. But the zx6r is what moves you from the "sport" category to the "super sport" world. And it's a good life, I will say 👍
@@matthias19850I really hope you get a zx6r at some point bro. I want the 25 650 KRT for my learners in Australia.
I like the riding cowboy boots and 4th gear wheelie. Also i didn't know the quick shifter has an on off option. Great vid
Thanks man! 👍
I love that sound!! I installed a full Akrapovic exhaust on my 24 ZX10R, but haven’t had the ecu flashed.
I gotta say, yours sounds like 🤩
Thanks man, I'm impressed with it 👍
You will get 10x more pops and crackles if you use Shell nitro V power premium fuel, The ECU flashes love it.
Your video answered a lot of questions. I too have a 2024 ZX6R and plan on sending my ECU to Moore Mafia.
Good man! Yeah I was really curious about all that so it was fun to do it and see the results. You'll be pleased as well 👍
Received my flashed ECU from Moore Mafia today. Installed it had no problems. Went for a test spin it's like riding a new bike. Very happy with it. Moore Mafia received the ECU on Tuesday flashed it and mailed it back same day. Took less than a week to get it back. 😊
Awesome man!
Discovered yesterday my quick shifter no longer works. I think all 2024 ZX6R's come with one. I did mentioned to Moore Mafia I had one. I could live without it I prefer to using clutch. Anyway waiting on a reply from Moore Mafia. Maybe it's part of the flash?
Moore Mafia got back with me looked like I had to reset the rider mode and quick shifter now works. Which is good news.😊
Just a word for people with factory quick shifters you may want to leave the decel fuel cut engaged. If you have him turn it off the down shifts on the quick shifter will be very unpleasant. My Z H2 lurches hard on down shifts because the quick shifter is designed to have the fuel OFF and add it's own for the blip. With the decel fuel cut turned off it's always getting fuel so it gets a "double shot of fuel" making it feel like you just ticked off your mom and she jerking you around for a butt whoopin. LOL! But, other than that agree Chris's tunes are freaking amazing.
I just bought a 2024 Hayabusa from them, im going to get to a tune and a bunch of upgrades to the bike. Thats why I bought it from them, he knows what he's doing. Nice vid, ur video is awesome and answered alot of questions I had. I'm from Texas ,so nice to see ur very happy with the tune and pops and bangs! Now I know for sure what I want, thanks man take care
You have a dream bike and rocket ship. I got scared away from buying 40th zx10r so I can only imagine how you ride your bike. 👍 From Australia Melbourne
about to get the bike and im glad to have come across your channel, very good and easy explanation. keep up the work and the content, youre a G!
Thanks yo! 👍
I think leaving the injectors off on decell is the way to go. The on /off glitch is normal. In a day or two your wrist will learn to do it right. My Z900 RS did this. N. P. !
The popping is unburned fuel igniting in the hot tubing. You don't need fuel on decell to get the Cat. Hotter.
I cant wait to get my bike! these videos are awesome!
Thanks man! How soon u getting yours?
@@bikesandbangs im hoping within the next month!! Fingers crossed 🤞
I have a tune done on mine from another tuner and have that high rev and fluctuating idle you spoke of. Also thumbs up for 4th wheel wheelie
Moore Mafia is great and fast. With that being said id wait a couple thousand miles or even a couple years before flashing my next bike. No need to rush it if you haven't really gotten a chance to get familiar with your bike and the way it behaves. An ECU flash will change the behavior of your bike. A lot! Enjoy
wouldnt you want to do it asap then so you dont get used to your bike then change the bike and have to get used to it again? serious question not trying to get an aggressive response..
In my opinion, it doesn't change it so much that you should be worried about re-learning anything. And yes Dustin, good point
@@dustinleeper1 for some maybe not. I like to know the limit of my bike before I put a flash or Dyno it. I think I jumped out the window before getting a flash out the gate. And to me 20 wheel HP is a big difference. Not necessarily relearning your bike at that extreme. Too many of us don't get familiar with our bikes as it is. That being said a flash will definitely improve the performance.
This is what I am doing but only for the first 2000 miles. Planning to order a full exhaust for my zx6r then immediately take it personally to Moore's for a Dyno tune.
👍🏽😎 Nice review and hey I'm with ya on the quick shift deal cause for me there's nothing better than ripping through the gears the oldschool way owning that clutch, throttle and brake.🤛🏾😎🏁🏁🏁
4th gear wheelie was fire!!!
Been debating on Moore mafia and 2WDW, this helps with more info thanks!
2wdw every day of every year. Don’t pay for bad fueling that “sounds” cool.
@@stank.nooner2987 not sure, I’ve seen too many horror stories from 2wdw so far with the high revving b.s
@@andybui98182 Wheel Dynoworks (2WDW) has just corrected the high RPM cold start issue. My 2024 ZX6R has been flashed by 2WDW and has not gone above 2500 RPM on a cold start. With all of the 2024 ZX6R communities I belong to, 2WDW has flashed considerably more 2024 ZX6R than Moore Mafia has. The cold start issue did not affect everyone that they tuned. I know when I researched tuners for my bike, I chose 2WDW and don't regret that decision.
for sure WDW he is the man fuck everyone else
@@andybui9818 I have not investigated enough about horror stories, but am considering 2WDW for my 2020 Ninja 650.
Bauce racing for ecu flash 💯
Thank you! Great Video! You answered all my questions about the flash. I'll be going with Moore Mafia.
I miss my pops I took out the air system so it runs more smoother and saves my valves
Also long term is there any negatives to this tune (pops and bangs). I've never kept any of my new bikes long term but I really like my 24 zx6r and I don't want to shorten her life if you know what I mean. I have never touched an ECU before (reflash) on any bikes and I am REALLY worried about consequences if I do. (2yr unlimited km warranty currently but that disappears if I touch her.) I don't know what to do as I was thinking of getting ECU done on zx4rr but 2yr warranty and again I don't want to lose my peace of mind
Youy've got a quick shifter bro, take advantage of it 100% of the time. Yours sounds quite different than mine. Mine is set at 0.4 of a second. yours sounds as if it's 0.6-0.8 seconds.
Quick shifters are a crutch for newbies. Don't hate on the real bikers out there
Hey Micah, great tips and informational vids as always bro! Thank you. Wonder if you considered putting racing rear-sets as well.
Thanks man! Ya know I haven't looked into any yet, kinda just wanted to square this other stuff away first. But now that the tail, tune, exhaust, and break-in is done, I'll look into em 👍
I went with Sato Racing rearsets for my bike as they were the only ones that I found worked with the factory rear brake light switch which is important to me. They were also the 2nd most expensive ones so be aware of that.
Im going to put a deposit on one of these soon, so excited! One quesiton tho, id like to put a full akra system on the bike, will it negativity effect the low and mid end power? I test rode one with an akra slip on and loved the bottom end power. I want an aftermarket exhaust for the weight saving and sound primarily.
Chris Moore flashed and dyno’d my new 636 and a Hayabusa. Big improvement on both bikes. Seat of the pants and on the chart
Nice! Yeah I think he's gna be my go-to for any flashes or tunes, really pleased 👍
L5 750, Moore Mafia tune. love it.
Mine lopes but it has a cam set
I have a cat-less M4
Bikes looking and sounding awesome. I tried looking for the o2 connector but couldn't see it. Can you do a short video what it looks like it there? Shine some light on the situation for me.
Yeah for sure man I'll make a short tmrw 👍
Which ecu flash you selected because my ecu part number isnt showing on their website? My ECU part number is 21175-1925.
2024 ZX6Rs have a lower lift, shorter duration cam than the previous generation. That being said Moore got 129 hp at the wheel from a 24 with a full exhaust. He tells you up front that a gutted cat won't get you there.
There’s a few tuners in my neck of the woods who are a little bit skeptical about his tuning. The flyby wire throttle response has to be done on the track only cannot be done with a handheld flash computer. My buddy had his sent to mafia and it was not right, 💔
If you can't do wheelies then just get the Moore mafia flash and you can pop wheelies like a pro 😉
i was looking to get a moore mafia ecu flash when i get a zx6r so this is very helpful
Happy to help!
So you got the ecu tuned to just pup-pup around and make a sound of a dire tune-up needed when deceleration? Unless I missed something but entire video of bike was under 6k rpm ? I've done the 600 thing when i first got a bike 15yrs ago, and only way to verify what differences are noticeable made is to let it rip literally, not verbally 😮
Yep you did miss some things
Don't you have a Quickshifter? You should use it lol. Supposed to be smoother after ECU as well
great video here, already sub'd and was waiting for this review video,
any opions on a steering damper...?
I installed an Ohlins damper on mine, SD042 is the part number. It is one of the more expensive ones.
@@TGJaws I heard GPR stabilizer is the best but these are def top 2
@luaalshaikh5037 GPR have a greater risk of an oil seal leak and if you use it out of the box as is, you need to shave the keys to work.
chris the best
Nicely done. Does this equiped with ABS?
4th gear clutch up... What the heck. I can't get it up in third stock. But 2nd comes up easy and I can QS to third in the wheelie. Tempted to get this flash now for sure.
Would recommend, it's been working great!
Hey out of curiosity, whats the top end cap after all the restrictions removed, in case you did test it?
Ive hit 168mph and then let off, might have gone more, don't know
Wait it disabled wheelie control? I’m glad I watched the video
There was no wheelie control to begin with 👍
@@bikesandbangs really ? I did it by accident once and my front tire went up then slammed back down and my screen flashed do you think that was just traction control maybe ?
@ObsidianSnow16 yes the traction control in sport, road, and rain mode will kill the throttle when the front end comes up. So it's kind of like a wheelie control but more violent lol
@@bikesandbangs noted lmao thank you 🙏🏽 I can’t wait to get my tune back
Awesome video man 🤝 👏
Thanks dude! 👍
Quick question since you still have your cat can the ultimate pops and bangs damage it over time? I opted in for it as well and didn’t really think about my cat when I opted into it.
I de-catted my factory header, I made a video of it too, check it out. You would think that it would kind of char it or that maybe it could get plugged up over time with the pops and bangs. I would drill out your cat if I were you. Or get a header without one
@@bikesandbangs shit. Thanks for the info. I’m just going to contact them and opt out of the pops and bangs. Big sad on that.
I am curious if the fuel consumption goes up after the decel fuel cut
There’s been complaints while using quickshifter when going from gear 1 to 2 the bike would kick back a little. Do you know if the ecu flash fixed that with the decel fuel cut off?
sending mine off tomorrow! thanks for the video homie.
Exciting man! Ur gna be happy with the results 👍
Which Ecu selection you chose? I'm tryna send mine this week and my part number isn't on any of the ecu flashes
The crackle crap is so damn annoying. Be it on cars or bikes. Other than that, love those bikes. Mine will be delivered in the next week or so, and ordered a second ecu that is being sent right to MM for tuning. Bricked an ecu before, so now I keep a bone stock ecu for just in case moments, and the modified ecu
Thank you for great vedio. It help me a lot.
Only one thing I need to know, I'm looking to slip on Arrow with letter A as logo, I find in ebay but said it's for 19-20
Do you think it will be fit if I buy it??
Anyone here can guide us
Thank you
I think it will fit just fine. Post the link for it so we can take a look at it
Thank you for your fast reply. Actually I want it with letter A as logo instead of full word. My bike same you 2024 zx6r KRT. Hopefully make ride someday
Well done video..👏🏽💯👏🏽💯
Thanks man!
Looks like engine breaking is greatly reduced as well
I haven't noticed any
Are there any bikes you couldn't keep up w before that you can keep up w now ?
I wanna flash mine bad. Advice I got is get a ECU off a crashed zx6r and send that out. That way if you need warranty work (I got a 5 year warranty) you put the stock ECU in
Edit:
I agree on the quick shifter (kqs) I haven’t used mine yet. I like hitting the clutch and rev matching. I think I’m afraid of getting lazy and relying on the bike to do my job.
Haven’t used mine either in 2300 miles lol
You could get an extra ECU, would be handy if you did need to switch it quick, if u can find one cheap. Yeah that's a good point on getting lazy using the kqs. I feel like the only people who use and love it are the noobs... Shhhh, don't repeat that lol
Hey all, I’ve always had older CBR 600s before quick shift was even a thing, but I purchased this bike a few weeks ago and I have to admit when speeding up the quick shift is pretty good. Now down shifting I don’t recommend it. It feels way to rough unless you drop the rpm’s to like 3k, so definitely use the clutch when down shifting. Thanks!
@@thomasusowski2155 check the manual. I read most of it when I first got the bike and I’m pretty sure the quick shifter is for upshifts only
@@JRemy617Hey good morning, it does say it shifts up and down, this is the first bike where I did read the manual. lol
I’m struggling unplugging the o2 sensor, ab to just cut it
There's just a tab on one side that you press and it pulls right out
How’s the tune considering moores doesn’t have the same eBay exhaust for the flash?
I'm sure it's just a generic tune for a de-catted header with a slip on exhaust. They probably do the same tune for slip-ons regardless of what brand it is. But good, very pleased with it 👍
Hey man I have a 03 2wd Dakota and I want to lift it more than the 3inch body lift but can’t find suspension parts, do you know any??
Yes! Here is links to front coil spacers, they have 2 and 2.5 inch ones, and then 2 inch lift shackles for the rear of your 2wd. $130 total 👍
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Do you think it’s work taking out a loan on it I’ve been wanting one for 3 years and the 2024 is 😘
If you take out a loan, put at least $3,000 down and do not do any of the back-end service plans or extended warranty. You don't want to lose ur ass on a motorcycle loan
Your not using your quick shifter? Did the ecu change the way it works?
I take it back didn’t get to the part where you used it lol😂
Im curious about the gas mileage, is it the same or worse or even better?
I haven't noticed any change
how does doing this flash effect the stock quick shifter?
It doesn't change anything about the KQS
Does the pop and crackle work if you haven’t decatted your bike? I decided to leave mine in.
Yes the pop and bang tune will work with the Cat in place. It won't work if you remove the AIS/PAIR system.
Correct, what he said 👍 but no flames and fireballs if the cat is still in there
I heard the pops and bangs can clog the cat? Anybody know if this is true?
@danstreet2019 depends, most tuners doing or offering this type of tune dump extra fuel to make the pops and bangs. Yes, that extra fuel will clog a cat.
If I still have the cat, can / should I still remove the 02 sensors after the flash?
Yes, you will unhook the O2 sensor after the tune whether you have a cat or not
@@bikesandbangs i figured, but thought I'd double check. Thanks!
How do I get my ecu flash. I got the same bike
Go to Moore Mafia's website, they walk you through it. And then I have another video of how to remove the ECU so you can send it to them 👍
How many miles did u wait until you got the ecu flash?
About 700. I wanted to wait until the break-in period was over. I don't like the idea of flashing it before the 600 mile mark. Your not supposed to be driving it like you stole it anyways so kinda pointless to flash before 600 miles if you're following Kawasaki's guidelines
What happens if u don’t unplug the o2 sensor and if u do unplug it nothing happens big gets wet ??
If you don't unplug the O2 sensor, the ECU will still use info from it in closed loop and could interfere with the custom fuel mapping.
Where the 02 sensor plug is under the fuel tank and in a spot that shouldn't get wet.
I found it a lot easier to unplug with the fuel tank lifted.
Yes, what TG said ^^^ 👍
Ok cool thank you
Bro you should use the quickshifter
What exhaust system do you have on your bike?
Ive got a few videos on it. $90 no name exhaust
@@bikesandbangs so it’s just a slip on with the cat still intact?
I de-catted the factory header too
Why use the clutch so much?
Do you think it’s worth purchasing insurance for the ECU ?
Statistics would say, no you don't. Are you a gambling man?
@@bikesandbangs LOL, not at all. Thank you.
Do you get to keep your riding modes?
Yes sir
@@bikesandbangs Amazing, thanks!
can you keep the front end on the ground
I could
@@bikesandbangs mine is lowered and won't, if I leave the TC on even 1 it cuts in so I'm scratching my head on how to keep this front end down from a 8K or so roll on, guess I need to gain some weight !
My front will be in the air too if I give it the beans in first or second gear, ya just gotta give it less gas
If telling me you work for more mafia without telling me you work for more mafia was a person .
I do not work for the Mafia 👍
Does it still top out at 154 with the tune?
Have not topped it out since the tune. I will soon, but it is no doubt going to be a higher top speed than stock
@@bikesandbangs hope to see a vid🫡
They do 165 pre tune
When I saw the name of this channel I thought it was a hot chick with bangs on a bike... But even though it's not I like the channel lol..
Haha thanks man 👍
Only issue is your warranty is gone and reliability is definitely crap..pops tune is the fuel injection stay pumping fuel on decel instead of closing, I honestly hate that pop sound,
So far reliability is perfect 1300 miles later. We'll see if that holds up though
Magnusson-Moss Warranty act. No it does not void the warranty.
10 miles a gallon
30+mpg.
Does it shoot flames?
Is this illegal?
4th gear wheelies kids
OBD II adapter is not the right size for 2024, don’t buy‼️
Dang it, I linked the incorrect one. I have the correct adapter in the description now. Too many parts and projects to keep track of. That's my fault
Pops and bangs….. 🤦♂️ there is nothing good about pops and bangs for your motorcycle exhaust or engine! The fact that you people pay extra money for shit tuning that damages your machine boggles my mind. Not my money, you do you. Northeast Nebraska here, I heard you coming, so did the fuzz!
Utter crap. Mail in ECU flashes are shit. Every bike is different and needs to be on a real dyno to set up, not dyno jet dynos or some dude who says they “know” how to run a dyno.
A real tuner does not use dynojet.
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I'm sorry you feel that way Dennis. You aren't correct and I already addressed this in the video. Below I've attached the phone number for the depression and mental health hotline. They give free assessments, reach out to them, they are for people in situations like yourself - 888-861-3669
Yes, with a Dyno you can get your bike taylord to whatever upgrades you have, and yes bikes are all different, which is great if you are racing and want to get the absolute HP out your bike or specifics you want for the track,definitely smooth out a few little things, but you can get away with just the flash, a lot of places like Bauce Racing do their own in house tunning and save the mapping they've done on other bikes with similar upgrades, and get all those restrictions removed, so you can get a pretty close mapping of what they have, personally I would have both things done.
Nice