Jeez man, my R6 makes around 110hp and it pulls like a freight train so i can't even imagine how it feels to have one of these at wide open throttle. These Kawis are no joke.
Don't compared liter bikes to these 600. In the 600s class the zx6 were definitely the fastest. Honestly i love 600 more than 1000. It's easier in corner compared to 1000!
130 to the wheel is actually amazing, close to the stock WHP of '06-'07 CBR1000RR and even closer to the '04-'05 models. Pretty cool that you can almost get the power of a 1000cc that can still be seen being rode in public out of a 636cc
Great info and really inspiring to get the new ZX6R. That improvement on the midrange is very useable for the streets. It will also be better for cornering faster on the track, point-and-shoot mid-corner and just blast out of corner exits.
The short velocity stacks will make total sense with the extended rev range, I've always hit the rev limiter on bikes that make peak power close to the limiter, losing the vital bike lengths you've just gained. Great developments for the 636 so far 👍
Hang on weren't the cams redesigned to provide more midrange power at the expense of top end power? But now the the new cams are also making more top end power than was possible with the previous get bikes, explain please?
@@AJTalksand y’all gotta remember this goes for car engines as well, when you have to restrict the engine for emissions and you do modifications to offset that, when you remove these restrictions and tune for it correctly the gains are much higher. For example the euro 5 Ducati V4s make 175-185whp stock while the older euro 4 bikes make 180- low 190s in some cases, the second you do an exhaust and a good tune, they both will make 200whp without much fuss. But when a brand like Kawasaki actually changes internals to keep performance the same or close, it’ll outperform the older engine just because they’ve had to restrict then turn around and figure out way to make more power lmfao
@@GoGoggansGo Yeah I get what you're saying, I was wondering after all the restrictions are removed, how the new redesigned cams impact power vs the previous gen cams.
I own a '23, Kawasaki 636 ZX6R. The ECU isn't flashed & no performance modifications. How would your '23 ECU Flash & modifications vs. the '24 636 ECU Flash & modifications outcomes be comparable?
When I looked at the map it all make sense, I remember in 3rd gear when it’s full throttle at high rpm the computer is only giving maybe 35%, in 1st it was worse like 14%
From my comment in the previous 6R video, I was wondering what the powercurve and AFR look like when you just run with the stock headers only, open headers essentially and stock stacks, stock air filter.
For the track use, a cheap solution are the stacks from ZX6R (600cc) 2009-2012 model. I've put them in my ZX6R 2019 for the track use, and great results on dyno after re-flash of ECU with Woolich. Here are the results i.imgur.com/qPWSJK7.jpg
Can someone please tell me if more then likely a two bros racing exhaust that would fit a zx6r 2023 fit the 2024 literally called everyone in the industry including Kawasaki they do not even have a parts page for the 2024 yet. Any help is much appreciated.
Nate, would you say that these numbers are more a testament to how grossly restrictive modern bikes are becoming with EPA emission regulations or, is it improved engineering and motor design.
V stacks are lil mushroom tipped cones that sit on top of your intake..Like other parts they help decide how air flows which increases and decreases hp/tq at different parts of the rpm range..
I have my 2024 Zx6R and wanted to know if like 2023 exhaust systems fit this same bike or are the layout of the exhaust different or bolt patterns anything like that I need to look out for or order a specific 2024 exhaust?
The m4 website says their exhausts are compatible with 2009-2024 zx6r, which would mean any exhaust from other brands would also work on 2024 models. Double check but looks like its all good
I'm sure you could, but if you're going to go through that effort you might as well just do a full supersport build and end up with 135WHP like the race package we offer.
The tune brings up the performance in the lost spots bringing it to basically similar performance The offset creates more up top, if you tuned for regular stacks, you'd see a little increase across the whole range as opposed to a huge increase in just the high end, depends on what you're after
@@sambegg2873 probably lived in middle east or SEA countries. Here in my country SEA zx10r makes 220hp with full exhaust and tune. Maybe it's different Dyno reading or the fuel octane is better quality than america gas fuel. Here our cheapest gas is 95 octane while 97-100octane is for premium.
The 19’-23’ are the exact same motor as the 24’ . Nothing changed accept esthetics. You’ll have the same power doing the same mods neither model gets more power than the other after tune and flash.
@@ChristianGuadalupe13 Ahhh, I see what you mean. Yeah, I literally had to spell it out for a dude once on Facebook. He was arguing for his life that his R6 did over 180mph 😂.
Jeez man, my R6 makes around 110hp and it pulls like a freight train so i can't even imagine how it feels to have one of these at wide open throttle. These Kawis are no joke.
You should try a R1
@@Naldo_S1K Haha, I know. Hopefully one day 👍.
You should ride a CBR1000RR with a full exhaust and tune. The 600 feels slow compared to the liter bikes.
@@seekingtruth8074 Yeah, well I was just being realistic due to what I can afford😂.
Maybe I need to make friends with some litre bike riders 😁
Don't compared liter bikes to these 600. In the 600s class the zx6 were definitely the fastest. Honestly i love 600 more than 1000. It's easier in corner compared to 1000!
130 to the wheel is actually amazing, close to the stock WHP of '06-'07 CBR1000RR and even closer to the '04-'05 models. Pretty cool that you can almost get the power of a 1000cc that can still be seen being rode in public out of a 636cc
You’re not lying that’s 750 power and Ducatis 959 makes that stock “i know it’s not apples to apples” but god damn that’s alot of power for a 600
Insane 😮😮😮
Great info and really inspiring to get the new ZX6R. That improvement on the midrange is very useable for the streets. It will also be better for cornering faster on the track, point-and-shoot mid-corner and just blast out of corner exits.
The most powerful ZX6R yet...wow...
Great to know as I just picked up a 40th aniv ZX6R!
The short velocity stacks will make total sense with the extended rev range, I've always hit the rev limiter on bikes that make peak power close to the limiter, losing the vital bike lengths you've just gained. Great developments for the 636 so far 👍
You do these videos so we’ll. So easy to understand. Legit taught me so much over a few videos. Thank you!!!
Hang on weren't the cams redesigned to provide more midrange power at the expense of top end power?
But now the the new cams are also making more top end power than was possible with the previous get bikes, explain please?
@@AJTalksand y’all gotta remember this goes for car engines as well, when you have to restrict the engine for emissions and you do modifications to offset that, when you remove these restrictions and tune for it correctly the gains are much higher. For example the euro 5 Ducati V4s make 175-185whp stock while the older euro 4 bikes make 180- low 190s in some cases, the second you do an exhaust and a good tune, they both will make 200whp without much fuss. But when a brand like Kawasaki actually changes internals to keep performance the same or close, it’ll outperform the older engine just because they’ve had to restrict then turn around and figure out way to make more power lmfao
@@AJTalks So that means 2024 gets more mid range and more or close enough to same top end yeah?
@@GoGoggansGo Yeah I get what you're saying, I was wondering after all the restrictions are removed, how the new redesigned cams impact power vs the previous gen cams.
@@AJTalks Yeah cool, pretty good, would be good to see the dyno overlay new and old, with these videos did more of that.
The new cams with short stacks, like ours, make slightly more everywhere than the 19-23s.
Can’t wait till mine arrives
That’s crazy they bike is laying down that power
Always the best comedic delivery of the stats 😂
how is that so?
Where can we buy these velocity stacks? Thank you for this amazing content
Email us at support@2wheeldynoworks.com for the stacks. We can't add them to the site yet due to limited stock. They're $250.
Any updates on you Zx6r? I don’t see any other video of it on the channel, really interested in seeing if you where able to get it to higher HPs
How does this Full system compare to their Carbon Street slayer canister ? The short look makes a huge eye difference…
I own a '23, Kawasaki 636 ZX6R. The ECU isn't flashed & no performance modifications. How would your '23 ECU Flash & modifications vs. the '24 636 ECU Flash & modifications outcomes be comparable?
When I looked at the map it all make sense, I remember in 3rd gear when it’s full throttle at high rpm the computer is only giving maybe 35%, in 1st it was worse like 14%
Will you guys have the ECU flash mapped for the 2025?
Thank you guys for the awesome work, and for showing us the progress! So excited to get mine!
From my comment in the previous 6R video, I was wondering what the powercurve and AFR look like when you just run with the stock headers only, open headers essentially and stock stacks, stock air filter.
For the track use, a cheap solution are the stacks from ZX6R (600cc) 2009-2012 model. I've put them in my ZX6R 2019 for the track use, and great results on dyno after re-flash of ECU with Woolich. Here are the results i.imgur.com/qPWSJK7.jpg
Go my R1 tuned by 2 wheel dynoworks and it became absolute beast
Can someone please tell me if more then likely a two bros racing exhaust that would fit a zx6r 2023 fit the 2024 literally called everyone in the industry including Kawasaki they do not even have a parts page for the 2024 yet. Any help is much appreciated.
They fit the same
If i wanted the velocity stack, exhaust and tune could i buy it all from you guys?
Nate, would you say that these numbers are more a testament to how grossly restrictive modern bikes are becoming with EPA emission regulations or, is it improved engineering and motor design.
Both, sadly
Would like to see the SAE numbers. Preferably smoothing 5.
all right what the heck is a velocity stack
The intake runner inside the airbox that feeds each inlet at the throttle body.
@@2wheeldynoworks
What's the speedo indicated top speed at the rev limiter?
V stacks are lil mushroom tipped cones that sit on top of your intake..Like other parts they help decide how air flows which increases and decreases hp/tq at different parts of the rpm range..
Wow I didn't expect this new engine to be this strong crazy. I have 2021 and had zero interest in trading up but this is impressive.
Is this setup increasing top end speed as well?
Would you recommend all
Tall stacks or the outer ones being short and the middle 2 being tall?
I have my 2024 Zx6R and wanted to know if like 2023 exhaust systems fit this same bike or are the layout of the exhaust different or bolt patterns anything like that I need to look out for or order a specific 2024 exhaust?
The m4 website says their exhausts are compatible with 2009-2024 zx6r, which would mean any exhaust from other brands would also work on 2024 models. Double check but looks like its all good
Yes, fitment is identical.
Does your mail in ecu flash make the same or similar power or do you have to get it dyno tuned for that?
Do they no longer run variable length intakes? My '06 ZX-6R had that from memory?
It's sad to see such limitations on a 600 but I'd take them over, Idk, not having a 600 in the first place? Screw yamaha for killing off the r6.
Where you located would love for you to do this to my 24 it falls on its face on top end.
Will there be any options to throw the new cams on the 19-23 model?
I'm sure you could, but if you're going to go through that effort you might as well just do a full supersport build and end up with 135WHP like the race package we offer.
When will you have the velocity stacks available on your website
What’s the new top speed? I want to see if it’s worth to tune my 24 zx6r
You need a sprocket change for that
Even with the "loss" the curve looks more linear, so its a win imo
I don't see velocity stacks listed for this bike on your website, are the 23 ones the same? I am wanting to order, thanks.
Does anyone know what 2WDW Velocity Stacks was used for the zx6r 2024
Why don’t I see your velocity stacks on your site?
Will the 2024 model fit a 2023 model aftermarket air filter? Is the airbox the same?
@@CyberGasty yes, well, without some kind of proof/reference, your "almost certain" is worth approximately jack shit xD
What's the top speed go up to at this power level
Which version M4 exhaust is that? I like the look better than the shorty. I heard you guys sell these with tunes is that right?
Full Tech 1.
We certainly can!
Kawasaki really knows how to build powerful engines
Can you do a dyno with 2023 cams?
Uncle brock always says stacks moves horsepower it doesn't create
Uncle Brock knows his stuff
Uncle Brock should be more specific. We clearly showed an extremely small loss in one small spot for a huge gain in a much larger spot.
The tune brings up the performance in the lost spots bringing it to basically similar performance
The offset creates more up top, if you tuned for regular stacks, you'd see a little increase across the whole range as opposed to a huge increase in just the high end, depends on what you're after
Can top speed limits be removed?
128 hp is the number GSXR 750 K6 is pumping!
Congrats to Ninja!
Top speed ?
Also to people who dont know their dyno shows a higher number than what it really is
Great video! - 1 tip - look INTO the camera instead of at yourself on the screen haha :D
do you really want this man Nate staring into your soul while he sweet talks you with information abt your bike???
now that i said it.. i do
I'm sure Kawasaki built these for the track, and aftermarket flashing, such as you do. Almost everyone at least installs a slip on.
My 24ZX6R is making 142hp.. just saying.
So 122 is claimed stock hp. 20hp gain by installing a gp19 m4 full exhaust. Flash and custom tune.
Do you have a dyno sheet?
Biggest horse shit Ive ever heard. 142 with a tune and full exhaust? Not even when you are dreaming.
@@sambegg2873 probably lived in middle east or SEA countries. Here in my country SEA zx10r makes 220hp with full exhaust and tune. Maybe it's different Dyno reading or the fuel octane is better quality than america gas fuel. Here our cheapest gas is 95 octane while 97-100octane is for premium.
It’s a nice bike.
Noice
how much top speed?
Wow Kawasaki made this bike insane😭
Wait I thought top speed was 164
The 19’-23’ are the exact same motor as the 24’ . Nothing changed accept esthetics. You’ll have the same power doing the same mods neither model gets more power than the other after tune and flash.
Wrong. Cams were revised
So this 600 does 185mph lmao
with wind resistance and a rider on the road..... no. I don't understand whats funny.
Not even if you dropped it out of a plane.
Can we see a video of it DROPPED from plane? 😁😁
@alexventrov6826 it's a running joke when people say their 600 can do "xxx" mph. Usually something +185.
@@ChristianGuadalupe13 Ahhh, I see what you mean.
Yeah, I literally had to spell it out for a dude once on Facebook. He was arguing for his life that his R6 did over 180mph 😂.
So is it more important to change out the stacks or to get a high performance air filter? Or both.
The air filter is a less than 1hp restriction.